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So I'm curious, do you have a favorite pub like
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you like your go to pub?
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Oh goodness, don't get to go out that much. But
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what's the one that the Green called? See this is
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how the pub?
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Yeah? The pub? Yeah, it's just it's so generic. Yes,
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it's it's it's the pub. I went to quite a
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few of them when I did visit in London. I
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can't remember most of their names of you know, the Elephant,
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et cetera. But yeah, it would just be the pub.
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You were in London.
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Be about three years ago. Now, I was there when
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the Queen passed.
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Now so you know, well, maybe you do know that
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there's a pub in i Fitzrovia called the Lore of
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the Land. Did you happen to go to that one?
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I did not go to.
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That one has a rather famous owner, Guy Ritchie.
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Oh I should have looked that up, and no I
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did not. I didn't get to do anything him related
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or Gordon Ramsey. Really I did go into the Sherlock
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Holmes pub. I had some fish and chips there.
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But yeah, Richie, he likes his pubs, he likes his breweries.
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He actually owned the Gritchy Brewing Company which was in
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operation from twenty seventeen through twenty twenty four.
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Okay, yeah, that would have been the time I was there,
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but no, I did not get to partake in that.
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Well, I'll tell you what. Why don't you grab a
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pint in a pickled egg? And let's talk about a
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film by Guy Ritchie, his twenty twenty fast paced crime
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comedy The Gentleman. Hello, and welcome back. I'm Jeff Johnson
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and this is a film by podcast and I've got
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a very special guest today joining us for the first time,
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Miss Angela Norris. Hello, Angela, Hello.
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Thank you for having me on.
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I'm really excited to be here and talk about one
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of my favorite movies.
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So listeners, I gotta tell you. A couple of weeks back,
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Angela writes this incredible review for James Gunn Superman.
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Oh, thank you.
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And I just I was like, you know, I type
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on there and I'm like, hey, you know, we might
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be hiring you know, if you're looking for a job,
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And to my happy surprise, Angela message me. She's like, hey,
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I kind of wouldn't mind trying this out.
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So absolutely my.
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First question because I told you, I said, you know
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what I want you to be comfortable, want you to
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be in your element, and you know, talk about a
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movie that you like. So I told you, I said, Angela,
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you can pick any director, you can pick any movie.
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We don't typically do this, we try to stick to
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underrated movies, but I said, hey, you know, what do
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you got? So you didn't even have to think about it. No,
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So my question to you is why Guy Ritchie and
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why the Gentleman?
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Well, my brother and I as teenagers, we bonded quite
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a bit over Lockstock into Smoking Barrels, and that was
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probably one of the first films that he and I
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really could get into. Just the style of language, the
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fast paced, with the back and forth, you know, all
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in the backdrop of you know, criminal activity and whatnot.
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So and then from there, you know, we had that
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we watched No Snatch and I just kept following. But
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this one in particular was just so fun for me.
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Not only was it an absolutely like terrific cast, but
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I just love the layers and the balance that he provides,
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you know, with that humor versus you know, with really
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serious stakes, you know, involving you know huge you know
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drug dealer and a couple of other you know, drug
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lords and things like that. So yeah, it's just it
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was just a lot of fun for me and I
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just I just absolutely love it.
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So I know, I know Richie's done some really awesome stuff.
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Some people may or may not have seen The Gentleman.
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So my question to you as what's this one all about?
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Can you give us? Can you give us a quick
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little synopsis for this one?
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H So, pretty much, it's a drug dealer named Mickey
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Pearson who, as an American teenager, was very smart but
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grew up poor. But he was given a nice scholarship
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to Oxford University and there he found the sweet spot
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of what he was good at as far as when
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it came to marijuana and dealing with students. And so
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fast forward to you know, probably twenty some odd years later.
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You know, he's a you know, big time, you know,
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head of the smoke game, and he's decided he would
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like to sell his business for you know, the quiet,
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gentry life with his lovely wife that is referred to
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as the Cockney Cleopatra, which I absolutely loved. So they
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can have you no kids and and things like that.
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But because of that, obviously you have a couple of
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other sharks another American and then a Chinese heroin druggler
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coming in wanting to kind of battle out. But in
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the process they're scheming to try to undermine that business
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so they can buy it on the cheap. And you've
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got you know, Hugh Grant playing wonderful Fletcher, who's the
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undercover journalist that bringing all this like basically being the
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narrator of the story to kind of put all those
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those pieces together until it comes satisfying.
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Conclude satisfying. Indeed, written, directed and produced by Guy Rich. Yes,
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let's let's talk titles. So originally this is called Tough
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Guys before it was changed to Bush and then it
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gets picked up for US distribution and it becomes The Gentleman. Now,
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the word tough is British slang for a rich or
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upper class person, usually used in a derogatory Yes way,
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Bush obviously is slang from marijuana. So right off the bat,
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I gotta ask you, like, did they did they get
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the title? Right? Is it? I mean the Gentleman is
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that when you look at all three of them, like, what,
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what what's the best fit here?
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I think definitely the Gentleman fits because you've got even
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despite their activities and what their their business is is
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that they do have a very high set of standards
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as far as you know, rubbing elbows with the the gentry,
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the lords, the ladies. No, you know, that does have
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a hand in keeping Mickey's business functioning throughout. So you know,
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it's a nice aristocratic balancing act that he does. And
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he's not that stereotypical. You know, this isn't just your
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street dealer, you know, he's he's he's a pretty high class,
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very clean, very you know, the you know, his fashion.
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He's just being just a straight up businessman and he's
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been gentrified. Of course, there's still dirty work to be done,
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but he's got men for that to kind of keep
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his hands clean from any newer monstrosities that you know,
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he had once you know, committed, but no longer does
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you know, does those things until he is kind of
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pushed to having to do that, because how things get
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get out of hands. So I think the gentleman was perfect.
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I think if if they had just called it, you know,
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it's just I mean, that could be taken so many
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different ways, especially you know in the US and whatnot,
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and I wouldn't have really immediately thought of you know,
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marijuana necessarily, because it's not just about that. It would
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have been a i think a detriment to the all
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these characters and the moving pieces and and you know,
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just how they interact with each other like it's all
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in the up and up, even though what they're doing is,
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you know, quite a bit of dirty dealings, lots of
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dirty dealings, lots of dirty dealings, but they make it
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so fun.
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Yeah, there's some very fun performances. Yes, and we're going
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to get to those. But let's take a quick break
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and when we get back we will talk cast. Welcome back.
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We are talking about Guy Ritchie's The Gentleman. So Angela,
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you gave us a great synopsis. Thank you for that.
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Talk about Mickey Pearson, who has played rather well by
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Matthew McConaughey. Did you notice that because obviously like he's
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he grows up in the States, you know, us ex
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expatriot that that heads to London. He's not he doesn't
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have that that Texas Twain though.
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No, no he doesn't. He definitely has that h you know,
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that articulate you know, upper class that unless he actually
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told you what his origin was, you would have no idea.
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You know how he kind of had a move up,
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move up in the world and and uh where he
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you know how he got to hit the position that
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he's in. So yeah, unless you know like that backstory,
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you would think he was just another you know, privileged
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guy from a wealthy family who just decided to you know,
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go a slightly different path and making the money. And
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you know he definitely doesn't have any kind of residue
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of his past, if you will with that.
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Yeah, he McConaughey co produces the movie with Richie. He's
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the first to sign on. I think this is one
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of my I prefer this McConaughey. Yeah, astly. He's intelligent,
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he's articulate. I'm not saying I don't like his other stuff,
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because he's awesome. I mean, he's Matthew McConaughey. But what
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I'm getting at is he's I don't know, I think
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he's just I don't know, he's doing something different here
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where he gets you know, you don't get to see
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him play this guy often, if ever, and you can
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tell he's having a lot of fun with the role.
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Oh absolutely, and you know just how his approach to it.
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He's not a brute. He's you know, you know, refined,
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He knows his surroundings. He obviously has known how to
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adapt and you know basically has become one of them,
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you know. But yeah, he just has that calm control
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and that that cool confidence that you know, I know
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it's seen him have that and other roles and justin
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him you know, you know, as a person. But but
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it was a really nice take on you know, his position.
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You know, we think he'd be grittier, harder, you know,
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and I know we'll get into it pickre but his
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other half that we will eventually get to. But I
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that dynamic as well. And and his role, you know,
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with that of Michelle Dockery's Rosland.
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Yeah, McConaughey is scary when he needs to be.
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Yes, he can pull the fire out, absolutely.
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Fierce when he needs to be. And uh, that definitely
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comes into play where his wife is concerned. Rosalind Pearson
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played by Michelle Dockery.
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So and it was so much fun seeing her in
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this role. I I have watched and I was obsessed
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with Doubton Abbey and I'm excited they have like another
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film coming out. But seeing her go like be as
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lady Mary Crawley, her being this very refined, you know lady.
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You know she's got a very cold you know front
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and and and that role, and then seeing her in
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this was just a lot of fun and seeing that
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difference in her and I think she played beautiful. And
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actually I didn't realize that the role was originally for
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Kate Beckinsale, who then had to bag and I love
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Kate Beckinsale, but seeing Michelle Dockery and that I couldn't.
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I couldn't see it being anyone else. She just did.
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She was absolutely brilliant in the counterpart to uh To
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Matthew's Mickey Pearson. I really enjoyed this for her.
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So originally cast she's like, they're two weeks into shooting
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when she finally is like, hey, I can't do this
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interesting enough. Though Richie had Dockery like kind of waiting
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to step right in. I had never seen her in this.
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I'm not you know, I've never seen Downton Appy, So
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I'm glad that you have a frame of reference for
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us to tell us about about her. I will say
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this about her, She's incredible. I looked this up. So
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she typically only was given an hour to a few
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hours to learn her dialogue, because every day these monologues
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that she has and she is amazing, but they're writing
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them the day of, or they're rewriting them the day of,
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and they're like, hey, here's the new pages. We're rolling in,
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you know, sixty minutes. So the idea that she can
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do that and give us a performance like this, I
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had a lot of fun with her. I love that
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she's not the damsel in distress.
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Yes, I was gonna kind of touch on that. Yeah,
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her being independent, she has her own business. I mean
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she's running her you know, upscale car shop.
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You know, these amazing women are like fixing muscle cars.
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Yes, And and she even in the in the movie,
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she's like, no, I don't want Roger, you know, I
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don't want him up front. You know, this is supposed
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to be a safe space for the ladies. And I
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just absolutely love that. And I love her strength and
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how much you know, you know her husband, uh you know,
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played by Matthew Was. I mean, he's just still just
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so an awe of her. And you can tell like
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there's that mutual respect and and and even throughout the movie,
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there's a particular slogan or motto if you will that
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he repeats that actually it came from her and you know,