Sept. 7, 2025

Julian Gilbey -A Lonely Place to Die

Julian Gilbey -A Lonely Place to Die
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Season 6 A Film By...

This episode is made possible, thanks to one of our listeners, James Buckley! By request, Jeff and David discuss the tropes of mountain climbing thrillers and explore the dangers of isolated settings, and the fear of being hunted, as a group of hikers frantically try to bring a kidnapped girl to safety in Julian Gilbey's 2011 thriller, A Lonely Place to Die!

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So I was talking to my dad the other day

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about movies from the seventies, because as you and Scott

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and Wayne, I think that's fair to say. I have

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been doing the A film at fifty, you know, all

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these movies from nineteen seventy five. I've been asking my

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dad about, you know, did you go see this? Do

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you remember when this came out? And sometimes he's like

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I don't, I don't know what that movie is, or

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saying sometimes he's like, of course everyone went and saw that.

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We were talking about the Eiger sanction. You know, you

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and Wayne? Did you and Wayne did that when a couple?

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What was that like two months ago?

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Two months ago? Yeah, that's right.

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I like he had he had a line where he

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was just basically yeah, that's when the movies were made.

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They made him different. They didn't have all the computer

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crap that you guys do now. You know, Clint was

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on the mountain. He had to be on the mountain. Yeah,

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And I was like, yeah, you know that was back

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then when safety regulations were a little bit different than

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the way'd have a choice, they'd have a choice. Could

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you imagine them making a movie like that today without

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the use of CGI there's.

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No way it would happen today, right, No way?

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Wrong?

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Oh, I am.

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Dave. Let's talk about a film by Julian Gilby, his

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twenty eleven underrated thriller, A Lonely Place to Die. Hello everybody,

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and welcome back. I'm Jeff Johnson, David Burns and this

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is a film by podcast. So David, who is making

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today's episode possible?

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That, of course is our Patreon member James Buckley.

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James Buckley, one of our Patreon producers, has tasked us

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because occasionally we do put a free one out right, Dave.

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Yes, we do.

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So far this year James has been responsible for these

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episodes Devil in the Blue Dress and the Raid.

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Well, let's see if he can go three for three.

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Let's start with a little chat about Julian Gilby. Three

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facts and maybe a quote, And Dave, I gotta be honest,

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I was kicking over every loose rock on the mountain

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trying to find some stuff out about this guy. You know,

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newer director, right, he's not been around long, so ye.

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British actor Nigel Bruce, best known for playing Doctor Watson

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alongside Basil Rathbone's Sherlock Holmes in many Sherlock Holmes films,

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can also be remembered for his work in the Alfred

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Hitchcock thrillers Rebecca, which Brad and I covered a few

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seasons ago, and Suspicion. But Dave, Julian Gilby most likely

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remembers him as his great grand father. Now, you remember

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at the beginning of the year, you and you, me

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and Amber were talking about young Schlock Holmes. I know,

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we kind of talked a little bit about Basil Rathbun

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and his movies.

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Mm hm.

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Who would have thought we'd be talking about is a

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great great grandson, Julian Gilby The Small World?

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What happened?

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Yeah, I gotta ask you a question because you have

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directed several independent films. It's tough, right, Oh.

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It's very hard. Yes.

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For his first film, the two thousand and two low

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budget horror film Reckoning Day, Gilby wrote, acted, directed, and

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was his own cinematographer. Okay, he was also the makeup

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artist and editor.

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Well, you do wear many hats, but wow, that's a

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little ridiculous.

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I'm thinking back because I've been on set with you,

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and I'm starting to wonder, like maybe you've been sandbagging.

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He should be doing some more.

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First off, I'd never want to be in front of

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the camera, so kudos town for being doing that.

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But that's not for me.

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Yeah, I'll tell you one thing that may or may

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not be for you. Before scouting locations for this film began,

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he and his brother Will, who co wrote the script,

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became experienced climbers so that they can make this movie.

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That's going all in.

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Yeah, Well, as we talked about, and you know, at

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the cold Open, we were talking about Eiger sanction. Right

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back then, there was no CGI, there was no computer

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animation to change stuff.

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Up on location.

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He is on location with this movie with his cast

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and his crew and they're on the mountain and with exception, Yeah,

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with exception, there's a few very nerve wracking scenes with

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Melissa George where she's kind of trapped on the mountain

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with it with no safety harness, no line. Now, obviously

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he's not gonna let Melissa George be on a mountain

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five on her feet up and not attached or anything.

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So she was attached and they digitally erased some of

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the lines that were keeping her safe. Other than that

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they're up there.

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That's insane.

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But again, you can tell how realistic it looks in

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the film because of them doing that.

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So I'm glad they did it.

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Yeah, so I got I found a quote he did

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an interview with a California literary review discussing this movie

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and kind of how his how he directs right, and

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he says, quote, I like to think of myself sometimes

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as a bit of a method director. So what the

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characters are going to do? I want to do? Now,

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when I say method, I don't mean I'm kidnapping. No, No,

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that's more the fictional side of things. No, it was

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the climbing and the mountaineering. Now that's not to say

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we didn't have quite a lot of winging it for

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the opening sequence up the mountain, and you know, the

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crew got scared and a rock almost fell on somebody.

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That's just bad luck. And mountains are not a safe environment. No, no, no,

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So I kind of dig the fact he wants to

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shoot on the mountain, so he's gonna have to be

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on the mountain, so he's going to have to climb.

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So he kind of talks about how they basically created

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a skeleton crew to say we don't need you, we

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don't need you. You're staying down. You're staying down. And

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then he would just hand pick a handful of people

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to go up the mountain to get these shots and

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to get it done, and he was up there right

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there with them.

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I really respect him for that, Yeah, absolutely, And I

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can see why keep it simple, keep it small, because

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the more people you have up there, the more dangerous

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it's going to be. Calm, So I get that, but yeah, wow,

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that's impressive that they did that on the side of

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the mountain, especially today. Come on, man, you do that

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on set somewhere with some CGI, not really being on

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the side of a mountain.

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I don't know how he got away with it, but yeah, Dave,

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I know you and I kind of went into this

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not knowing what this movie was. James Buckley, our Patreon producer, said,

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guys a lonely place to die, And my reaction was absolutely, Dave,

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what is I've.

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Never heard of it, you know, and I haven't.

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Yeah, so you want to give us a brief synopsis

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of what this movie is all about.

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Sure, five friends are enjoying some mountain climbing and exploring

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when they stumble upon a girl buried in the ground

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with only a breathing tube sticking out of the surface

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allowing her to breathe. The five friends quickly dig her

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up and make a plan to get her to safety,

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only discover that they found themselves in the wrong place

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at the wrong time, even though they're trying to do

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the right thing. It leads them into the race of

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their life to not only save the little girl, but

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also themselves.

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David, I gotta hand it to you that synopsis is

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just as good as the trailer that you can watch

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for this online. You can watch it on tuob. I'm

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gonna ask did you go in Ice Cold? Like did

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you know anything about this movie and you just hit play?

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Or did you do a little research? Did you watch

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the trailer?

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So I did not watch the trailer. I went into

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this Ice Cold. But here's the thing. When I got

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to the point where they discover the girl, I don't

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know where I saw that at. I don't know if

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it popped up like when I was like browsing through

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some films one day on tuby, because I remember them

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finding that breathing too. But that's all I remember from

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that film. It's like I've seen that somewhere, but I

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think it's just because I was browsing. But yeah, I

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went into this Ice Cold.

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I I had to know a little. I had to

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I had to at least have my my interest peaked.

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Mm hm.

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So I was like, you know what, let's let's let's

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just watch the trailer. It's it's it's streaming free on

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tub Let's check it out. Let's see what I'm in for.

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Because James is he's not let us down yet.

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In my opinion, he has not.

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He has not this trailer is so intense.

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Mh.

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And in just two minutes, we are getting dangerous climbing mountains,

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Guys on a with rifles, hunting people, people in peril,

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there's a little girl, there's kidnapping. I'm all in after

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seeing the trailer, this is one of the better construct

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the trailers I've seen in a long time.

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Especially for spailling it.

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But I didn't see the trailer, but I mean with

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it being a spalling dependent film, that says a lot

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of the trailer was not powerful.

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If if I would have seen the trailer when I

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knew we were doing it, you know, when I first

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knew that we were going to be doing this movie,

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if I want to watch the trailer that night, we've

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probably been recording like within two days, I would immediately

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have to stop at what I was doing to go

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see this meeting. Yeah, you know one of those IFC films.

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Did you ever notice like it's like them in A

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twenty four are like becoming the go to studios for

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the risk amazing.

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Stuff, right, yeah, because they take risks where the big

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studios don't, these smaller ones do.

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They go after them. And I want that. I like that,

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that's what a small director like this.

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Would want well talking about filming on location, Can we

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just take a minute to talk about the beautiful cinematography

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by Ali Asad?

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, I'd written that down because, as you know, I

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love to talk about cinematography.

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Let's do it.

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Being a fer myself, so all of his shots were

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absolutely stunning, especially when you're dealing with all the mountains,

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the climbing going into that. I can't imagine with you

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know what you told us that they did this on

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the side.

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Of a mountain. I cannot imagine.

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As a cinematographer being up there with the camera watching

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my safety, watching other people's safety, but also making sure

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that I'm getting the shots right. That's crazy, Jeff. And

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the fact that he pulls it off as he does

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is amazing, and it's beautifully done. Beautifully done.

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I can't agree more. I'm just captivated by the shots

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that he's getting and I'm thinking, my god, Scotland is gorgeous. Yeah,

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and just the lighting everything is amazing. And then danger

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hits and I looked I was like, wait a minute,

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not even We're not even five minutes in, right, and

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we get what I kind of feel is becoming a

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trope for thrillers or action movies that take place on

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a mountain. And what I'm talking about, uh is h

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I'll call it the cliffhanger trope. Sure, ye're five minutes

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in the line breaks, the girl's in trouble. Hey, it's okay,

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Stallone's here. It's in a savor right, Game's got it,

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He's you know, game, don't you lose her? Man? You know?

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turn this into a cliffhanger episode, but I remember seeing

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that and my date was clutching the arm rests, and

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you know, she's like, don't let me die, don't you know?

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The girl and he's so please, you know. And I

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leaned over and I told this girl, it's Stallone. He's

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not gonna drop.

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Her incorrection and then dropped her.

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He was like, what did I just what happened? You know?

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One of the greatest openings to a movie, you know,

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hilariously Peried Peried in Ace Fincher too with Nature Calls.

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But then Vertical Limit, which you and I love a

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big fan of Vertical We covered it, Andrew, we had

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our special guest Andy Tom. We're all talking. Vertical Limit

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has that same. Everyone's cool. We're just we're just climbing

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this mountain. And then the line you know, snaps, and

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then it's like and I'm thinking they did it cliffing.

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I'm not gonna do it vertical limit. Nope, there goes

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dadd Holy shit. Like when you have a movie open

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with people having some fun on a mountain, I just

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assume that someone's gonna die, you know, you do, yeah,

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And I think it's like four minutes and change, there's

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a mistake happens, and three of our climbers, three of

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our our characters are in serious jeopardy, and I'm like,

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what Melissa George isn't gonna die because she's she's a star.

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I don't know which one of these two chumps is

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about to bite it. But but then they don't. No,

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the one guy saves the other, and it's it's all good.

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You know.

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I'm a photographer, Yeah, but there are certain places you

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do not want to pull your camera out, okay, and

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I think that's one of them. You do not.

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This jackass is like, hold on, let me get a selfie,

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you know, take my picture. You know. She's like she's

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all excited about this hawk, you know, that's flying by,

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and he's like, never forget the hawk, take my picture.

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Get I want you, I want able to see how

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high up we are and this foot is not paying

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attention where it should be and rope and all of

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a sudden you're upside down about to fall. I was

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surprised that no one died.

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And I want to go on record, Jeffrey, if you

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and I were ever in that situation, just tell me

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to put the damn camera away.

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Okay the minute. The minute, I'm I'm I'm blaying or

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whatever the hell like, and you're like, hold on, I

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got I gotta, I gotta put a put the big lens.

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I'm like, put it away. Now was not the time.

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And Melissa George is even like, hey, why don't we

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take the picture when we're at the top of the mountain.

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You're coming sense?

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Yeah, common sense? Id I do love that. Once they

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get up there, she immediately is like, hey, you'll never

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climb with me again if you can't get it together.

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There's a time and place like hell, yeah, get him,

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get him, Melissa, get him. I thought it was fantastic though,

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because I'm I'm watching it and my heart was pounding,

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and I was I just was feeling the pressure and

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the stress. I was like, ah, all right, they're fine,

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But then my brain was like, yeah, it's still a thriller.

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People will die, So they will and they do and

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they do. But uh not before we take a quick break.

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When we come back, Dave, there's a couple of people

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we need to talk about in this cast. Okay, absolutely,

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welcome back. We are discussing Julian Gilby's A Lonely Place

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to Die brought to you by our Patreon member James Buckley.

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So James, thank you as always for your support and

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for keeping us watching good movies.

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That's true.

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Melissa George, she's playing Alison. I'm gonna say this is

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an actress who has done a lot of work. She

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just kept very busy over the years. I just don't

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understand why we're not seeing her on the big screen

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more often. Amazing.

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I love her. She's a great actress.

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I I kind of came to know her from she

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had a limited run on Friends. She was playing the

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nanny Molly. Okay, but she did mal Holland Drive. Everyone

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knows her. I think she's kind of launching the Spotlight

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with the Amityville horror remake.

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Where she's playing Yeah.

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And then she did that awesome vampire movie Thirty Days

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a Night.

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Oh yeah, great film, I love that movie. Yep.

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Amber Lewis will remind us that she was on Gray's Anatomy.

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I never watched the show, so I'm sure she was

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awesome on it.

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I'm sure she was.

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Again, I will also remind you because everything comes back

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to Star Trek. She was in Discovery. She played Vina

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you got no, she did? Yeah, she did. Everything comes

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back to.

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Sometimes I think you're making shit up just as just

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to use your line. Everything comes back to Trek. She

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was on Star Trek, Discovery, she was okay, but yes,

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she was all right. So we'll look for her at

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the conventions, and that's.

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Right, and Wayne will be getting her autograph.

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Sure, I'm sure he will. I'll tell you whose autograph

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he won't be getting, Franka POTENTI. I think I'm saying

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that right. I'm not sure. Very good actress. She was

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in the first Jason Bourne movie if you remember Oh Yeah,

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Run Hullo Run and Jason and the Bourne Identity. She

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had the job and then she was replaced by Melissa George.

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So I'm okay with that.

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I'm okay with it too. I'm assuming you'd call that, Uh,

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what's what's the what's the line there?

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Dave creative difference? Is Jeff create a favorite line?

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Her favorite line?

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Yeah?

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Uh. The thing I love about this movie is Melissa George.

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I don't know how she does half the things she's

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doing in this movie, but she is a full on

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action star. I know she did a lot of her

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her climbing. Julian Gilby is on record of saying, hey,

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she did everything I needed her to do. She tried

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to do more than what I needed her to do,

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and that's when I had to remind her there is

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a stunt woman that we are paying to be here

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to take some of these risks. So well she looks Yeah, absolutely,

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she's very believable. Uh and she you you would believe

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that she's in and climber. There's no doubt about that.

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She pulls well. Okay, she has a she has a

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climber's body.

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And what I mean by that is you can see

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that she is she's sculpted, she's toned, like I believe,

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like you know, when she's climbing. Some of these moments

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that just the muscle definition that you see pop up,

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you know, and like her back and her shoulders, it's

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in her arms. It's like, hell, yeah, this woman she

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went and learned how to climb.

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Uh. And I know before they they are on location

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in Scotland, she's back here in the States, actually in

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Los Angeles, you know, climbing walls and and training and

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prepping for it.

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And you have to have that because there's a certain

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way that you prevent your body when you're when you're

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climbing like that. And you can clearly tell those who

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don't have the training and those who do have the training.

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So you can tell she went through a lot of

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practice there prepped for this, and it shows.

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She's very impressive in this. And I'm not talking just

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about the action stuff, the physicality that she she brings

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to it, her moments with the little girl. I know

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we'll get of that later when we're talking about some

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noteworthy scenes. But she's amazing, absolutely amazing. This is my

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new favorite Melissa George performance. Go ahead and say that

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right now. Yes, she is being hunted her and her

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friends by mister Kid, who is played with just a

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cold calculating I don't know what to call it coolness.

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Like this guy, he's Sean Harris is just super cool.

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He's he's such a great bad guy, isn't he?

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He is from extremely well in this and again you believe.

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In yeah, now if you're if you're saying Sean Harris.

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Sean Harris. He played Solomon Lane in some of the

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Mission Impossible movies, so obviously just a fantastic villain. Uh.

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Did you ever see a movie called The King with

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Timothy Shallamey. No, We're gonna do it at some point

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because I love this movie. Uh, he's in that as well, Okay,

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and he's he's he's one of those character actors where

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you're like every time, like the first time you see him,

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you're like, oh, I know that guy. I've seen him before,

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even though you haven't seen him before. I've now seen

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him in four movies, and I'm I'm trying to make

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it five because like I want to look up his

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filmography and figure out what else he's done, because he's

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he's incredible. He's so he's just nerdously awesome in this movie.

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There are certain actors who can really pull off the villain,

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and he does incredible job with it.

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I think it's something about he's not he's not a

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large guy. No, and his voice is very soft. It's

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very distinct. So it's almost like you you want or

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you need to pay attention to every word he says,

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because if you miss something, you're afraid he's gonna kill you. Yeah.

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I just there's something soft about him that that makes

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him scary. And I know that sounds weird to say

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it like that, but that's the best way I can

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think about it.

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But it's true. It makes sense.

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His soft this is scary. Yeah. He So he's one,

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he's one of the two kidnappers. And just from the gig.

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His his his introduction, you know, because we got some

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we got some.

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Poachers, but they had me foold with that dude.

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Well okay, so we got these two, these two guys

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who are giving off some serious deliverance vibes. Yeah, and

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I'm like, okay, these two jackasses are the scary people, like,

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that's who we got to worry about. And they've got

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these these very intimidating rifles. Well I think they're both

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they're both carrying three O eight's right, And then Sean

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Harris and his buddy show up without rifles and just

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dispatch these two guys like they're nothing. Oh but I

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mean that one guy, I mean they're both shitheads. But

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like the second guy, when they're like keep walking and

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he's they're basically backing him up off the cliff, and

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he is so scared and terrified. I was like, Yeah,

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if I got to be one of those two guys,

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I'll be the I'll be guy number one that just

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gets his throat slit. He doesn't even know it. He's

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dead instantly. The other guy, man, he took a just

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gloriously terrible, awful fall down the mountain. He didn't die instantly.

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I just loved how a little bit. I just loved

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how that was directed. Not them dying. I just loved

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the fact that they threw you off as an audience.

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You thought they were the killers, they were the ones

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who were there that were going to take out our climbers.

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And then because they never show what they're looking at

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or they're aiming at, you just get you just cut

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to seeing the hiker the climbers, you know, walking and running,

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so you assume that these are the two guys. But

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then when the other two show up and they get

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killed and you realize, oh crap, they were just hunting shit.

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How how great of a misdirect was that? It was great?

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Even even when Sean Harris shows up, I'm like, oh, okay,

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so these guys work for him and it is not

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the case. All of a sudden, you get a little

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bit of a you know alpha, you know, challenging for

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for dominance, Like the poachers are pissed at these at

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these guys, and then these guys are like they just

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they just dispatch them so quickly and comments It's great.

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Absolutely love Sean Harris, Melissa George. I gotta be honest

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with you. I didn't really recognize anyone else in this cast.

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Is there someone that you wanted to talk about? Is

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there someone I'm missing?

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There is someone you're missing?

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Jeff Okay, Ed ed Spieler's Ed's who is it?

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Ed Spieler's sper You.

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Haven't been introduced to mister Spielers yet because you haven't

472
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got to pick card season three and yes, once again

473
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.079
to star Trek. But here's another thing. We met him

474
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.880
at a convention a couple of years ago. Wayne already

475
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.119
got his autograph on that.

476
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:57.039
Yeah, he was.

477
00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.000
Okay, who is he playing in the movie, like put

478
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:00.599
face to it?

479
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:06.720
He plays he plays ed ed. Yeah, he survives almost

480
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:07.400
to the end.

481
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.880
Okay, Okay, he's the he's the he's the dip ship

482
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.279
with the camera. Yes, on the mountain, Yes, the younger guy. Yeah.

483
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.680
So I I can't tell you the name of the

484
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.759
character for Piccard because I don't you've not seen season

485
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.400
three yet. No, I don't want to ruin anything for you. Okay,

486
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:23.359
but he has a big role in Picard season three.

487
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:25.680
And we've already seen him. We've already talked to him. Well,

488
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:26.559
you guys have talked to him.

489
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.759
Yeah. I went up with Wayne to meet him to

490
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:30.960
sign the audit his So.

491
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:35.079
Yeah, I'm assuming he's actually British. He's not. He is, Okay,

492
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.680
pretty nice guy too, all right, And he used a

493
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.640
pivotal role in Piccard season three.

494
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.599
Absolutely all right.

495
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.400
Well, uh, I admit I did like him. I did

496
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:46.039
like that character.

497
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:50.319
Yeah, because for the camera stuff. But other than that, yes, well, character.

498
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:53.119
Again, it's in the misdirect because I'm like, this dip

499
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.960
ship is not gonna make it right. And then he

500
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.880
kind of he heroes up. He does not as much

501
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.799
as Melissa George does, but he still you know, he

502
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.319
steps up to take care of the little girl and

503
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:04.759
I dig that.

504
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:06.720
I mean he goes down the side of a hill

505
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.079
and breaks his leg.

506
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.240
Oh that hurts.

507
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.039
Oh god, yeah, ouch.

508
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.000
Like that is a great moment there when he's she

509
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.599
I mean, Melissa George is full on like Ripley throughout

510
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.839
the whole, as soon as the action starts, because he's like,

511
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:21.559
what do you want me to do?

512
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:21.880
It broke?

513
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:23.559
But like, sugar, you didn't break it. Your brother on

514
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:24.160
at your phone.

515
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:28.720
It's like wow, And Edieven reminds me a little bit

516
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:32.440
of you, Jeff. There's the scene whether before they find

517
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.839
the girl. They're taking a break. They're eating, they're drinking,

518
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:37.599
and she goes to hand him something and the food

519
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.359
touches something else and he goes, oh, I can't eat

520
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:41.160
it now, it's tainted.

521
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.440
This reminds me of job.

522
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.680
They'll be they'll be calling me out for my my,

523
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.160
uh my, nonsense, I.

524
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:50.839
Gotta call you out.

525
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.359
Oh man? All right?

526
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:53.720
Then?

527
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:58.480
Uh background on this movie, HM, barely anything can be found.

528
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:01.039
Not surprised, I try to yeah not, Oh yeah, I'm

529
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.559
not surprised. But here's what I can't tell you. So

530
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.119
it's filmed on location in Scotland. We've been talking about that.

531
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:06.839
Yep.

532
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.519
The working title was The Grave at Angel's Peak.

533
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:12.599
Yuck.

534
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.559
Okay, hold on to that one, okay, because his brother

535
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.160
co wrote the script from an original screenplay that he

536
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.039
did called The Long Weekend.

537
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.359
Okay, I could see that one.

538
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.640
Okay, So okay. So here's the thing. Honestly, I'm not

539
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.359
loving A Lonely Place to Die as.

540
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.920
A title as a title, but it's catchy.

541
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:42.000
It is. It rolls up to a little It maybe

542
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.680
a little misleading. I just but I like. I like

543
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:47.480
it more than The Grave at Angel's Peak. I like

544
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.920
it better than The Long Weekend. The Long Weekend could

545
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:57.960
star Helen Mirren in a garden. We don't know. It's

546
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.000
just it doesn't grab me, know, none of the titles

547
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.559
grab me. A Lonely place to Die it almost works

548
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:07.920
if the movie stayed on the mountain.

549
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.000
We'll get to this.

550
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:13.480
Is that fair? We're good? Okay, Okay. Maybe I'm making

551
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.759
a little bit too much of it, but I just

552
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.839
had to say that. The film premiered at Action Fest

553
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.839
Film Festival in North Carolina. Dave not too far south

554
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.519
from US. I think we might want to check this

555
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:30.559
film festival out next year. This movie won Best Film

556
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:35.799
and Best Director at the actual Film Festival. Yeah, I did.

557
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.720
I mean, I'm telling you right now. Like the direction,

558
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:43.920
Julian's direction is fantastic, cinematography, fantastic. I'm loving, I'm loving everything.

559
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.839
Let's talk about a couple of scenes and find our

560
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.200
way to the pivotal moment, if you will. So, can

561
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.160
we start off with them discovering the little girl at.

562
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.240
Anna, Yeah, when Ed's taking his pe break.

563
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:07.960
Yes, a voice it carries from that pipe. Yeah, and

564
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.079
it has a real caroline and poltergeist vibe.

565
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:16.440
It's almost very ghost like. Yeah, going through that forest.

566
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:21.400
Yes, Yeah, I'm like, okay, is what are we dealing

567
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.160
with it? Is this a supernatural thriller? Is it a

568
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.039
regular thriller? Why is this little girl have to be

569
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.599
so creepy? Because that's the rule in thrillers and horror films,

570
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.759
Like if there's a little girl, she's nine times out

571
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839
of ten she's creepy, right of course.

572
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.160
Yeah, so another troope, but we love it.

573
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.680
Yeah, and uh, you know they find her, they dig her,

574
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.480
you know, they dig out this little this little box

575
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.680
that she's been held in. And now I feel like

576
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.680
the movie switches gears because now we have to get

577
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:56.480
her to safety off the mountain before whoever is coming after. Right,

578
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.000
we haven't seen Sean Harris at this point, we haven't

579
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.079
seen the Deliverance style poachers.

580
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.440
No nobody yet except for a main cast.

581
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.200
I think about how scary a moment like that would

582
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.480
be in real life, Jeff, if I would just stumble

583
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.720
along a little girl in a hole like that.

584
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.119
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously somebody put her there,

585
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.880
and they put her there for a reason, and they

586
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.119
clearly did not want her to be discovered. So you

587
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.440
discovering them and digging them up just puts you in the.

588
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.000
Crosshairs, you know.

589
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.680
You got to know immediately you're on the clock. Yes, absolutely,

590
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:34.160
because someone's probably coming back pretty soon, yep. And clearly

591
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.839
they are a dangerous individual yep. And I would love

592
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.759
to think that I'm gonna level up and be all,

593
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.480
you know, superhero, but I'd probably be like scared shitless

594
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.039
and like get her, pick her up, let's go right now.

595
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.720
So I do like that vibe that they all have,

596
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.759
like let's go, come on.

597
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.960
I agree, I mean they all sense the danger immediately

598
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:56.519
and they knew that they had to get out of

599
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.400
which which makes sense because I would think anybody would

600
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.119
would feel that. But I think the biggest mistake there

601
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.839
was splitting up. Shouldn't I shouldn't have done that.

602
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.400
Well, I understand why they were doing it because of

603
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:08.960
the climb. I get it, I get it.

604
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.720
Yeah, but I think they all should have went together,

605
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.799
even if it was the long way.

606
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.799
You know, it's it's safety and numbers. I get that,

607
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.359
And it is a it is a cool moment because

608
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.599
it's like, hey, it'll take us twenty miles or two

609
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.240
of us can go down the what do they call

610
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.839
It's like the Devil's Peak or Devil's Devil's tooth, Devil's peak,

611
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.240
something like that, something something something scary as hell.

612
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.480
Yeah, it's the five hundred foot drop.

613
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.240
Because at this point, I think I think it's safe

614
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.839
to say, like Rob is who we're looking at to

615
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.039
be the hero of the movie, right, Yeah, he's the

616
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.240
most experienced climber. He's calling the shot. I love when

617
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.039
he basically points to Alison say it's you, and then

618
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.279
he looks at Ed and he's like, hey, no arguments,

619
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.200
I need the best, and Ed has the the situational

620
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.440
awareness to he does take ego out of it and

621
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.920
just say, hey, yeah, she's the best. You guys, the

622
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.359
ear the two best. That's what you gotta do. So

623
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:08.599
imagine my shock when Rob is dead two minutes later.

624
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:10.480
Not much long later.

625
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.920
I'm like, what And it's funny when I'm not funny

626
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.880
because it's tragic that happens. But the director's camera angles

627
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.119
at times really let you to believe that something's wrong,

628
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:26.480
something's up, even though you weren't sure just yet. And

629
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.119
then just the way he shot them climbing down that cliff,

630
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.880
you're like, something's going to happen here, but you weren't

631
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.599
sure of it yet until you see poor Rob. The

632
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.720
rope break and Rob comes flying down.

633
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.359
Little little taste of danger when the rope is not

634
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:45.680
long enough, and now she, you know, is like, I'm

635
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.279
out of rope. You know, she's freaking out. And then

636
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.119
she's like, it's a five foot drop to the nearest foothold,

637
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.680
and then just goes Tom cruise mission impossible too, and

638
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.799
let's go of the rope and makes it and then

639
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.400
she like looks up. She's like, hey, this is some

640
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.839
scary ship, like be careful, and you're like, well, he's

641
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.240
he's gonna be fine, and his body just goes sailing

642
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.839
past her and you're like, hold on, hold on, he's fine, right,

643
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.599
And then we get the shot of like his corpse

644
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:18.880
splattered across the rock.

645
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:20.519
I'm like, yeah, he's not fine.

646
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:21.599
What he's not fine?

647
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:22.599
He's not fine.

648
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.400
But then she she takes the the dive.

649
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.519
Yeah, coming hurling at her.

650
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.839
Yeah, rocks. It's like I say, okay, one rock, that's

651
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:38.680
that's okay. Two rocks, three, three rocks. Someone's trying to

652
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:42.519
throw rocks at her and and knock her off. And

653
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.200
that's when we see the real villains have showed up.

654
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.039
Mm hmm.

655
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.960
And these guys are like on a shooting spree, and

656
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.920
the the the intensity just ratchets up from this moment.

657
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:53.640
Absolutely.

658
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.759
Can we talk about her her first blood John Rambo

659
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:03.559
moment where she's like, she's stuck right on the mountain.

660
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.000
He's probably what another two fifty up?

661
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.840
Yeah, at least, And she.

662
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.199
Does this the the Insanity Leap where she she goes

663
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.199
to like three or four branches of an evergreen tree

664
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:18.719
to break her fall and then it hits the water

665
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:24.280
I'm like, do they seriously just kill Melissa George? Are

666
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:25.840
we like, are we gonna be with like the other

667
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.599
people because they and in my brain's like, well they

668
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.440
got the kids, so that would make sense. But but

669
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.960
it's Melissa George. Why did you kill Melissa George? Except

670
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.679
except that you didn't? And she washes up on the

671
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.239
rocky shore next to Rob's corpse to find out the

672
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.320
ropes beIN cut. Yep, great moment.

673
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.239
I think, absolutely it is.

674
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.599
How did you feel? There's another trope we got to

675
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.079
talk about. How did you feel about the bluff?

676
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:56.559
I think?

677
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.480
Is it Alex? Maybe the other guy, one of the

678
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.719
other guys does the whole The trope I'm talking about

679
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.320
is is when you're in a typically it's a horror film,

680
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.039
you know, sometimes it's an action movie.

681
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:07.760
Mm hmm.

682
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.159
But someone decides that they're gonna sacrifice themselves there's no reason.

683
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.639
Yeah where he actually he's got the girl, but he doesn't.

684
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.400
Yeah, he's like you guys, you know, you make a

685
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:19.880
run for.

686
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.360
It, and did that really do anything?

687
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.400
No? But can can Alex? Can you understand you need

688
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.639
to go zig zag, don't run straight? Are we ever

689
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:29.719
gonna learn this lesson.

690
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.079
This guy did not grow up playing technobile, because no,

691
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.760
you gotta have the move man, especially when two guys

692
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.159
have scope right right, Yeah, you're not that far away,

693
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.679
you know. I just I questioned his choice.

694
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:48.679
Mm hmm.

695
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.400
But I feel like I question that choice anytime someone

696
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.840
decides to sacrifice themselves for the greater good. Like even

697
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.880
think about like a I know this. I know recently

698
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.760
on Patreon, we did Andrew and I did Ten for two.

699
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.079
We did Sinners, which I'm still saying is the best

700
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.719
movie of the year so far. But there's that moment

701
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.320
where Delroy Lindo is like, go on, you guys, get

702
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.599
out of here, and then just cuts himself open to

703
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:23.719
just feed the vampires, which did nothing since Remick and

704
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.880
the other vampires were waiting from upstairs. You know, I

705
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.719
just we need to do better. We did this this trope,

706
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.280
and it's not that it's it's a bad trope, like.

707
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.960
But making mast it needs to be made sense. Okay.

708
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:43.119
Well, yeah, so like Vasquez and Gorman mm hmm setting

709
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.519
off the hand grenade in Aliens to take out several

710
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.039
aliens and help the survivors. That makes sense, Yes, it does.

711
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.119
That's a true sacrifice right there. It makes sense.

712
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:59.920
Yeah, Donna the Dead, you know the remake where you know,

713
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.599
if you're a bit and you know you're not gonna

714
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.400
make it and you want to be the do the

715
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.119
self sacrificing thing to give the group a chance. Yea

716
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.000
makes sense, it does. This guy it's smart, you know

717
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:13.719
how they he It looked like he was carrying the

718
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.079
little girl. But couldn't they just stayed together?

719
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:17.440
Yes, they could have.

720
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.679
Yeah, I don't know, I just we could do better

721
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.320
with that trope. I think one other thing about that scene,

722
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.039
great moment because they put they put like three rounds

723
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.519
in him and he's still living. And you know Sean

724
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.840
Harris's accomplice, He's like, I'm gonna finish him off. He's like,

725
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.199
not for what he just put us through. He can

726
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.800
he can bleed outright. But Sean Harris, if he wasn't

727
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.079
terrifying enough, has that moment where he leans down and

728
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.400
he's like, uh, do you feel that that's that's your

729
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:57.320
nobility hurts? Doesn't it? Like I've never seen a villain

730
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.559
talk shit to a dying good guy, right because the

731
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.079
guy didn't. You know, typically any other movie, this guy

732
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.239
would have you know, had some clever thing to say

733
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.000
and then died.

734
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.800
Yep, not, he he gets.

735
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.079
The last thing he hears is Sean Harris talking shit

736
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.840
at him and then he dies and I'm like, that's cold,

737
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:25.000
baby's cold. It is. Oh man, I'll tell you one

738
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.599
more scene before the pivotal moment that I want to

739
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.119
talk about. We talked about Melissa George and how amazing

740
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.679
she is in this right her the moment where she

741
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.880
has to convince this little girl who does not speak

742
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:41.000
English to climb down the side of the mountain with

743
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:44.000
the harness and this little girl who, you know it

744
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:48.960
doesn't understand what's going on. Just the the frustration and

745
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:54.159
the hopelessness that is conveyed on Melissa George's face where

746
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.599
she's like, you just just do it. You just listen

747
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.239
to me, you know, she what are you gonna do?

748
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:00.719
You know?

749
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.199
Yeah?

750
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.679
And I can imagine being a situation like that. I

751
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.800
mean that would drive me crazy. And you can see

752
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.239
it on her face and I love that.

753
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.480
Let me ask you, do you you gotta you gotta

754
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.760
get an eight year old to safety? Are you taking

755
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.360
are you taking the Croatian girl Anna who doesn't speak English?

756
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.360
Or are you taking catatonic Newt who speaks English. But

757
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.639
is it gonna pay attention or listen to anything you say? Like,

758
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:29.719
Who's who are you taking down the mountain? Dave? Who

759
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.280
I should say? Who are you taking to safety? You know?

760
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.239
I still I think I'll stick with Nute, You go

761
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.559
with Newton, I'll go with Nute.

762
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.000
Yeah, okay, you know.

763
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:40.840
And proud of me for that decision.

764
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:44.000
Yeah, that little girl survived a hell of a lot

765
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.800
longer with no food and no training. So yeah, yes,

766
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:54.639
you're right you put her in George. Great moment. But Dave,

767
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.360
I don't know if we've if we've talked about your

768
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.880
pivotal moment. I'm thinking we have it. Can I share

769
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.840
what I think is the pivotal moment of this movie?

770
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.159
Sure? Absolutely, let's hear it.

771
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:11.159
Let's talk about the conversation between Sean Harris's mister kid

772
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:17.920
and uh, the little girl's mafia henchman. Dad's a guy

773
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.760
who's doing the transaction for you know, obviously we got

774
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.800
a kidnapped situation happening here. That scene they have in

775
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.400
the coffee shop is where Sean Harris ridiculously good. Yes,

776
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.159
it's too I dare say it's it's almost too good

777
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.159
for this movie. And I apologize, Jillian Gilby, I that's

778
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.440
not meant to be a slight. But this movie, this scene,

779
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.440
it's almost too good for this movie. And it's not

780
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.159
just the performances. It's the dialogue, this story that he

781
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:54.159
shares about the little boy in the Paris job before

782
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.840
this one. I just love the fact that every time

783
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:02.400
you think Sean Harris can't be more scared, he he

784
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.679
ups it from its pivotal moment it is.

785
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.199
And is this the because he talks about two kids

786
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:10.320
or three kids, one of them when he let the

787
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.559
rats get killed. Yes, and he still collected the money.

788
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.519
I'm assuming you're talking about the one where the boy

789
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.320
bonded with him. Yes, and then he went out playing

790
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.800
football and the kid leaned over to get the football

791
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.119
and he turned and shoots him in the back of

792
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:24.400
the head.

793
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:25.280
Shot in the back of the head.

794
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.800
Yeah, holy crap, man, Because he's like.

795
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.559
I made a mistake once I bonded with with one

796
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.000
of the kids, and yeah, you know, and he talks

797
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.440
about how the parents thought they were smarter than him

798
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.519
and with the suitcase full of shredded newspapers and then yep,

799
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:46.440
absolutely man, this is the best scene. Yeah.

800
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.199
I couldn't agree more with you on that one. Yeah,

801
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.400
I could not agree more with you on that one.

802
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:50.760
Yeah.

803
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.079
And I say that thinking like, hey, we've got some

804
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.400
incredible action on this mountain. But you know, we've talked

805
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.199
about some great scenes. We've talked about I think we've

806
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.239
identified the pivotal moment. Let's take one more break, and

807
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.639
then when we get back, let's let's talk about what

808
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.480
maybe isn't working in this movie. Absolutely, because I think

809
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.199
I think we're both in sync on nothing. Something right,

810
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:25.719
We'll be right back, Okay, Dave. So here's the thing.

811
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.960
Would you agree with me that the first two acts

812
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.000
first say, I don't know, forty five minutes or so

813
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:36.199
of this film.

814
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.000
Is superb, without question.

815
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.400
Yeah, So what happened in the third act?

816
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.159
This film should have stayed in the wilderness and in

817
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:51.440
the mountains, right film. It just there's a shift in

818
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:56.000
this movie that didn't shift correctly, and that is them

819
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:59.000
going to the village, the town and you've got this

820
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.440
raid thing going on. The festival, yeah, the Stonehurst Festival,

821
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.079
which I know is based off of a real festival. Yeah,

822
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.880
but they go to the they go to the police,

823
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.400
and then they the police officers there saying you're getting

824
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.800
that vibe that maybe he's in on it, maybe he's not.

825
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.360
And then it just and then the all of a sudden,

826
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.280
the killers make it to the to the village like

827
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.320
it was no big deal, like they were just right there.

828
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.760
All of that just seemed so convenient and awkward that

829
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.639
it just almost ruined the film for me.

830
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:31.559
It really did well.

831
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.119
Here's here's where the confusion sets in for me. The

832
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:40.880
third act we introduce almost as many characters as the

833
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.039
first two acts have, and it's like, here's the little

834
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:51.280
girl's war criminal father from Serbia. Here's the mafioso guy

835
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.880
that handles his business. Here's the people that the mafia

836
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:02.400
guys hired to help with the transaction. Ye, here's the

837
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:07.760
creepy cop who is just for reasons I don't understand,

838
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.719
almost menacing, right, Like we're like, I get like, maybe

839
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:17.239
you're wanting to throw throw us for with another misdirection. Sure, yeah,

840
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.239
but he's purposely not calling for help. And and your

841
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.800
star Trek Discovery friend ed is like did you hear

842
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.159
him make a call? Like, what it's been fifteen minutes,

843
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.679
what are we still doing? Here because it's a situation

844
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.760
where it's like, ah, yeah, this this festival's going on

845
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.880
and I'm the only one here, and we'll call We'll

846
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.400
get you some help. Here, a little girl have some cake.

847
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.480
It's like, why is this guy being so creepy?

848
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:42.119
He didn't make any sense.

849
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.440
And he's like, oh, I can't let you leave, you know.

850
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.239
They're like they get like, now we're getting the hell

851
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.920
out of here. He's like, Nope, if you're leaving, you're

852
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.239
not leaving with her. And I was like, what are

853
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.000
we doing? Until he gets shot in the face, right,

854
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.480
you know, by the you know, the sniper that's working

855
00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.199
with mister Kidd has commutely showed up.

856
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:01.159
It's like he knows where they're at.

857
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.159
Yeah, and then okay, now let's be fair. On the mountain,

858
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.960
he's shooting slightly better than a stormtrooper.

859
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:13.119
Yeah. And now in town he shoot sharp shooter.

860
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.320
He's a sharpshooter, and he's he's shooting into a dark

861
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.920
police station through windows and and nearly and nearly getting him, right,

862
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.480
I mean, he definitely you know, gets the cop. But

863
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:30.840
I just don't understand what's going on here. And I

864
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.880
get it, we don't get our favorite moment, the pivotal

865
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:37.679
moment with with Sean Harris in the cafe. We don't

866
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.599
get that if it's if this doesn't leave the mountain

867
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:41.119
and go into.

868
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.519
Town, but we could just could be somewhere else.

869
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.320
Well okay, but if we're gonna go into town, why

870
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.039
are we seeing all of town? Like we go from

871
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:54.079
like the police station to the alleyway and then you know, hey,

872
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:57.360
Ed's dead and then we're in like some kind of

873
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.039
mansion like country home.

874
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.760
Right or the fight rights out and it's on fire,

875
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:02.960
catches on fire.

876
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.960
The firefighters got to drag her out, and it's like,

877
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.000
the hell's happening here? Like what? And I'm sitting like

878
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.320
he does his thing? Did you notice like that? It

879
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.159
was almost like maybe five seconds of just pitch black.

880
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:19.719
That was silence, like the screen just stopped.

881
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.519
Yep, And I'm like what I thought something was wrong?

882
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:24.239
I was like, what happened?

883
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:25.599
I was like, well I did, I did too. I

884
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.800
was like, uh, did the power? What happened? And then

885
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.960
it pops back up And then now that the firefighters

886
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.440
are there to save, I was like, well, can't end

887
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.199
like this? It feels like the end and all the

888
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.119
little girl's fine now and we're heading off in the ambulance.

889
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.320
We get it, we get our happy ending. But then

890
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.400
Serbian war criminal Dad catches Sean Harris who's tried to

891
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.639
get away with the money, and now he's gonna get

892
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.599
tortured to death. It's we're going like Casino, like the

893
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.159
end of Casino with like yep, strip him, put him

894
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.480
in this hole. We're gonna beat him to death. I

895
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:58.039
just feel like we had forty five to fifty minutes

896
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:03.800
of incredible storytelling and film yep, and then we went

897
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.599
off the rails and I just don't get why, and.

898
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.639
It became a different movie. I literally felt like I

899
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:09.719
was watching a different movie.

900
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.920
Yes, if I'll tell you right now, if we were

901
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.000
sitting here watching this movie for the first time and

902
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.320
I got up to go to the bathroom or to

903
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.480
go refill my drink and I came back, I would

904
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.760
look at you and be like, what are you doing?

905
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.199
Did you turn it back to turn the movie back on?

906
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.400
Like what what's this? What's this bullshit?

907
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:31.320
What do you?

908
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:32.599
I just don't get it, man.

909
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.199
I don't either. That was my biggest problem with it.

910
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.840
That right there, I I want to tell you something

911
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.559
real quick. I'm not gonna read them, but I do

912
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.039
want to share this because for a minute I was like,

913
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:45.599
is it just is it me? I don't know if

914
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.280
Dave is going to agree. You know, he might think

915
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:50.760
I'm wrong. Now clearly I know that you're you're you're

916
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:55.559
not thinking that, but I was like, I I don't

917
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:57.920
know about this, and listen to this. I was on

918
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.320
the IMDb mm hm, you know people like to do

919
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.159
with their reviews and sure and give some stuff. Hope

920
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:10.519
it's a kid to name drop people use Robston his

921
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.679
title A good effort, but a bit disappointing, and the

922
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.480
first sentence. The movie started off well with an interesting idea,

923
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.760
but somehow ran out of steam and commitment Snoopy style,

924
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:26.719
great first hour, Theo Robertson efficient thriller that could have

925
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.599
been better, And like, when I read some of these,

926
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:31.960
they all were like, Hey, this is such an awesome movie.

927
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.880
But then somewhere at the end, yeah, it kind of

928
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:36.519
fell apart. I don't I don't know.

929
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.880
I just I think I don't know why they made

930
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.840
that decision. To be honest with you, but I feel

931
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.559
like if you and I were in the writing room

932
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.760
together with Wayne and we were just writing this script.

933
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.119
I don't think either one of us would let us

934
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.280
go that route because we are saying the same thing,

935
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:56.400
what you what are you doing? This is taking the

936
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.800
whole idea off the rails, and it is.

937
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.079
Even think back to some of some of our screenwriting

938
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.360
that we've done in the past. Even if even if

939
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.760
you and I had come to this conclusion that it works,

940
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.800
you know, when it's in Wayne's hands and he's he's editing,

941
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.159
He's coming, Hey, guys, what happened? Why are we Why

942
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:21.119
we in this little village with mafia guys and sharp

943
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:26.119
sharpshooters and this weird you know, these creepy demon festival people, Like,

944
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.119
what's what's going on? He would have he would have

945
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.920
he would have course corrected us. He would have this ending.

946
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.000
We're clearly not fans of the ending. But let's talk,

947
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.639
let's talk recommendation. Let's let's wrap this up. As I said,

948
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.159
it's currently streaming on two B it's free. I say,

949
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.960
see this if for no other reason than for Melissa

950
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:53.159
George's amazing performance. Dave, despite the ending being a little

951
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.360
bit of a letdown, would you recommend this? Yeah?

952
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.840
Absolutely, just just for the cinematography of the mountains, the climbing,

953
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and of course, as you said, Melissa George, she does

954
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an incredible job in this film and she is worth

955
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watching this film for.

956
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So yes, I recommend it.

957
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All right, well, listeners, what do you think of a

958
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.679
lonely place to die? Have you seen this one? Let

959
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us know on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram,

960
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.920
and x You can check out a film by Podcast

961
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.840
dot com for all of our episodes. They are streaming free.

962
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.360
Uh there's a link to the Patreon Dave, so check

963
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.360
it out. You can sign up for your free trial

964
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.239
offer or sign up as a free member because there's

965
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:37.960
there's content there for you. Yeah, sign up, yeah, yeah,

966
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.880
right to us at a Film by Podcast at gmail

967
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.360
dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. We may

968
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.400
just read your response on the show, and if we do,

969
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.760
we'll send you some a film by swag Dave. It's

970
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no secret while you're here today, thank you? Yeah, bit

971
00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:00.920
youre app producer. I said, hey, who who you wanna?

972
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:06.360
Who you want on this episode? Is David Burns available? Thinking? Yeah,

973
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.960
he was available last time. You know, he's you're like

974
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the you're like the number one draft pick for for

975
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:12.960
James Buckley, it seems.

976
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Like and I'm okay with that, James, So if you

977
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want to continue to keep it throwing me some good

978
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films like this, I love watching them talking about them.

979
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So thank you.

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I know, I know you're you've been pretty busy, like

981
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obviously you do. Uh, You're doing the Phaser set the

982
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.760
Stun with Wayne and Scott. I know you guys are

983
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:33.039
about to wrap up season three of Strange New Worlds. Yep,

984
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.239
I'm gonna remind you though, I know how I know

985
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how busy you are, but I will remind you that

986
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we are very close to the fortieth anniversary of the

987
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:49.079
third G I Joe mini series. We are Pyramid of Darkness.

988
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:51.880
You're not going to miss that, are you?

989
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.840
No way in hell am I going to miss that?

990
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.880
Jeff will be all right, Yo Joe, Yo Joe.

991
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Uh.

992
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And then at the end of the month, can you

993
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:05.440
tell us what's coming up for a film at fifty

994
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.239
on our Patreon? What are you what Scott doing?

995
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.360
So we decided to go back to Attaka Atka and

996
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talk about Dog Day Afternoon.

997
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:17.840
That is a fantastic film.

998
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Yes, it is looking forward.

999
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To that and Dave, I appreciate you being here for

1000
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another Patreon requested film from James Buckley, and to all

1001
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of you out there listening to the show, following us

1002
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:36.079
on social media subscribing to the Patreon like James Buckley,

1003
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.440
we thank you and if you're gonna get on that

1004
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.039
producer to you like he is, we look forward to

1005
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.079
what you have in store for us. We'll see you

1006
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:45.519
next time.

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I can my fucking please. An hour before the doll,

1008
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crime go for all your drivers grow. He burnt your

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crop and temp charrowings. An hour before the doll.

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Mm hmmm

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Mmmm