Kenneth Branagh - Sleuth

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If I say the name Kenneth Branna, what role or performance comes to mind?

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Like you got a favorite one?
Well, that's kind of two different

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answers. Like immediately, the first
thing I think of is Henry the Fifth

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That was where I discovered him,
and it is just the greatest performance,

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the greatest I think film version of
the play. But my favorite performance of

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his was actually in Dunkirk. Really
dun Kirk. I did not expect to

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say that he does so much with
just his face. There is a scene

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where he's standing at the end of
the pier and you can watch him realize

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that he is about to die,
and then he sees the ships come in,

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and his whole face tells you that
whole story just a few seconds,

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and it is one of the greatest
moments. I just absolutely adore his performance

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in that movie. He is fantastic
in dun Kirk. I'll tell you,

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I cannot get enough of him as
Hercule Parrot though. He's so much fun.

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He's so fun in that role.
I know, the new one,

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Haunting in Venice. I just watched
that the other night. Oh like you

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spectacular, h you know, I
know, we'll talk about it later later

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on here but that ridiculous mustache and
his eccentricities are He's spectacular. I can't

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get enough of enough of him in
that role. But let's talk about you

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know, he does more than U. He does more than act obviously,

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So let's talk about a film by
Kenneth Brandon, his two thousand and seven

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underrated Captain Mouse thriller Sleuth. Hello
everybody, and welcome back to a Film

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by podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson with
me today once again. Amber Lewis from

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Docking Base seventy seven. Nice to
be back. Nice to have you back.

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You did such an awesome job recently. You were you were the guest

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You were the guest co host for
the R. Mel Brooks episode for High

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God. That was so much fun. I had several people they reached out

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and they're like, I've never heard
of High Anxiety and I have to see.

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Yeah, well, I mean it's
one of his underrated ones. It's

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not what people think of when they
when they first think mel Brooks. But

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loved talking about mel Brooks with you
on that one. You are certainly no

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Now then sleuth Amer, can you
tell us what Sleuth is all about?

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Sleuth is the story of a writer, a very successful mystery writer who invites

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his wife's lover to his sprawling country
estate to have a battle of wits and

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see who's gonna end up with the
wife and he's gonna win this cat and

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mouse tennis match that got going on. Sir Michael Caine and Jude Law.

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These guys, they always seem to
be circling one another. I know both

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were involved in the Harry Potter projects, you know, because uh, let's

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see Brandon plays who was it a
guilt worry Lockheart? Yes? Okay?

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And then I haven't seen the spin
off series the is it the Fantastic Beasts?

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Yes? Yeah, because because Jude
Lost playing a young Dumbledore on that

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right, Yes, we call him
Yumbledore in our house. He's a good

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Dumbledore. I really like Fantastic Beasts. I really like those. I liked,

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uh the ones with Johnny Depp,
And then I thought they did a

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really good job switching over to Mad's
Michelson, who I always love. And

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uh, you know that that very
very sweet new main character, Neats Commander

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is you know, he's such a
little marshmallow taking care of all the little

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beasts and understanding that they're not dangerous, they just have special needs. And

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the supporting cast is amazing. So
if you are a fan of the Harry

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Potter verse, uh, you know, give it a try. It is

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my is my love for the Harry
Potter books and movies enough to assuage my

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my disdain for redmain. Are you
are you telling me like, didn't you

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like about him? Is it he's
unusual looking or it's well, it's not,

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it's not. It's not so much
his punchable face. It's he plays

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an annoying character and everything I've ever
seen him in and I don't I just

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don't think he's a good I'm sorry, like he's I just don't think he's

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a good actor. Well, I
just think the character is so incredibly sweet

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that it might uh win you over
all. Right, I'm gonna give it

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shot. Okay, I'm gonna give
it a shot based on based on your

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your your opinion there. But let's
talk about an actor who I always love

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watching, and that is Sir Michael
Caine. Here he's playing the role of

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Andrew White. This guy, so
he plays the he plays the opposite role

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in the original nineteen seventy two version. Yes, and I need to give

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a little disclaimer here, this is
not a remake. Yes, I'm glad

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you say that because I do want
to get into that. We're going to

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because I have thoughts. As always, if you didn't have thoughts, we

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would not be inviting you to talk
with us. But what are you feeling.

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Okay, Yeah, the year before, Kane finishes Chris Nolan's The Prestige,

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which is a fantastic film. It's
his second of eight collaborations with Christopher

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Nolan. I gotta be I gotta
tell you though, Aside from all that,

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watching him and this really brings to
mind his performance in death Trap,

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which I know we covered. Yes, we watched that last night because we

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were inspired after well, okay watching
It's not just me. Yeah, Andrew

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Wyke and Sidney Brule are both wealthy, vain writers with amazing houses in a

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tension filled battle of wits with with
a younger, handsome actor. Yeah.

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Absolutely, yeah, I love Michael
Kane in this, but what would you

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Let's let's talk about Michael Kane's performance. What I think is so interesting is

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that Michael Kaine is usually some level
of genial, you know, even if

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it's a very very serious role,
he's still like, oh but he's such

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a nice guy, you know kind
of thing. And in this one,

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like he's a rat bastard in this
like he isn't absolutely just a mean,

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spiteful, hateful He starts from the
moment he opens the door. Yes,

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he tags him the minute he opens
the door and it never stops that opening

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scene. First off, credit to
Branda for the very unusual les that he

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shoots this movie in and that honestly
it's his direction and the camera work that

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made this watchable for me. Okay, okay, you definitely have thoughts.

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I know we're gonna get into this, okay, but you're right though.

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Jude just knocks on the door and
he immediately is taking shots at him,

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like the whole thing with a car
like yeah, yeah, the little clun

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well yeah, the other car,
yeah, the who the other car that's

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sitting there? Yeah yeah, And
he's like what do you think of mind?

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You know he's right. Then I
was like, I'm really gonna enjoy

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Michael Kane in this movie because he's
this is one of those where he's he's

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just gonna be a prick about stuff. Yeah, there's and there's no wink,

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there's no twinkle. It's just you
know, aggressive. From the very

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beginning, it is a Jude law
as my low Tindall. So the year

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before he's got the rom com with
Kate Winslet and who is it? Who

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else is in that? Jack Black
and Holiday? Yeah? Thank you?

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Thanks? Like what who was the
who it was? It was Jack Black?

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Okay, Jack, I love that
you focused on the guys and it's

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the women's movie. Yeah. But
well, I mean, I guess I

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want to talk about Jude Law.
Yes, at this point in his career,

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I'd say he's probably known for for
like Closer, Cold Mountain, Enemy

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at the Gates, and the talent
of mister Ripley. Right, Yes,

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I loved him. If I had
to pick an all time favorite Jude Law

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performance, it's gonna be Enemy at
the Gates where he plays vasili zeisef one.

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I was thinking talent in mister Ripley. I'm gonna tell you this.

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If you like historical war films,
if you like great No Strike that stellar

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performances, if you like love stories
and you like action, Enemy at the

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Gates is your film. Oh my
goodness, has it all? Has it

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all? And I will say this
not to give anything away, but the

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love scene that is in that movie, I would probably put it in the

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top top five of all time.
Wow. Yeah, you have to see

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it to understand what what I'm saying. And I don't want to give it

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away, but yeah, because I
thought it was strictly like boys shooting guns

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like No, probably why I didn't
see it. No, Rachel Weiss is.

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She is spectacular in the movie.
And man, I'm telling you one

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of the most memorable romantic love scenes
I've ever seen in the film. And

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now you got homework. You gotta
watch it. And then you got yeah.

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Yeah. Uh. This is his
second time playing a part that Michael

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Kine did prior, because we gotta
remember he also did the Alfie remake in

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two thousand and four. Yes,
Amber, is there an? Is there

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another Michael Kane role we need Jude
Law to take at this point? Ooh,

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interesting, it's becoming a thing with
the guy, right right, yeah,

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you got anything, anything come to
mind. The first thing I thought

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of was he's moving towards like Alfred
Territory. Oh gosh, yeah, what

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he's fifty, so he's gonna he's
gonna we do like a younger Batman.

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Yeah, that could work you anyone
that's anyone that's listened to uh prior episodes,

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especially our our collaboration with the Shelly
you Can't Be Serious podcast where we

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did the what the what the hell, what the heck happened? Episodes?

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I like, I like to think
that these guys are are talking and Kane's

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asking him like what he's got,
what he's lining up? And I just

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like the idea of Jude Laws saying, well, you know, I'm looking

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at the role of HOGI for a
Jaw's Revenge type of Rema remake. I

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could totally see him do flying flying
a small Assessna and taking on a Great

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White Show, take a vacation of
the Bahamas. Come on, they paid

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him to get into tan. You
know the best part about that? What

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if Kine like responded, Oh,
that's interesting because I'm I'm doing a Talent

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to Mister Ripley remake with the I'm
gonna I'm up for Dicky Greenleaf and George

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Hamilton's gonna play the Matt Damon roll. I would you know what I would?

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I would totally watch that movie I'm
in speaking of being in uh quick

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cameo for two guys on the on
the television because let's let's face it,

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this is this is definitely an actor's
movie. This is one of those you

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can tell it definitely is a stage
production. You got two guys do it

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the whole thing, but in a
blinking you miss a moment. Uh Michael

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Caine's watching a police show and there's
two guys on television. The police detective

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is actually played by Harold Pinter,
who was the writer, the screenwriter,

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and he's interrogating a guy we we
can't really see, and that guy is

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Kenneth Branna. So nuck on there
anyway, even though it was always supposed

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to be two people. Clever little
thing. Yeah, did you did you

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catch that? Like? Uh?
Like, I was like, who is

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that guy? What's he watch?
I didn't catch that it was Kenneth Brana,

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But I was like, is that
Harold Pinter on the TV? What

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is going on? Yeah? I
anytime an actor, an actor, anytime

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a character is watching a movie in
our TV show in the background, I'm

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always like, what is it?
You know, what's what's the what's the

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significance? So but I, yeah, I missed. I had to do

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some some research to find out that
was actually Branda. But before, because

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he has a little voice, cameo
in uh Infinity War and I saw that

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movie really like six times before I
recognized his voice. Wait, hold hold

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on, you're saying Kenneth Brandon did
a voice over an Infinity War. The

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movie begins when the attack on the
as guardian ship and you hear a radio

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broadcast and someone saying like, we're
civilians and we need help, and oh

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you're I know exactly, someone come
help us. That's Kenneth Branner. I

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never put that together. Oh all
right, I gotta go back and watch

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it now. But before I do
that, let's take a quick break,

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and when we come back, we'll
talk a little bit about the film's background.

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And I think Amber has got some
opinions that she's she's about ready to

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share. So let's talk a little
bit about where this movie comes from.

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Because originally it's a stage production written
by Anthony Schaefer. It opened on Broadway

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on November twelfth, nineteen seventy runs
for a thousand, two hundred twenty two

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performances. It wins the nineteen seventy
one Tony Award for Best Best Play,

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and then they adapted a year later
the screen in nineteen seventy two. That

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one stars Michael Caine in the role
in the role of my Lit Tindall opposite

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Sir Lawrence Olivier in the role of
Andrew Wyke. Did you have you seen

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the original? About one hundred and
eleven times and let me tell you how

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much better it is than the movie
that we're talking about. Okay, now,

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you you you you kind of stressed
at the beginning. You said,

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this is not a remake. You
want to elaborate a little bit. Well,

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and that's like my big problem with
the movie just in general is it's

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completely different. There is no dialogue
that is the same. The only thing

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they kept was the general framing premise
and the character's names. Okay, that

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I haven't you haven't seen the original. I have not seen the original,

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and it's on the YouTube, so
good to YouTube. And it is an

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absolute delight. You've got this fabulous
house. Yeah. And the whole idea

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is that Andrew Wyke is he's actually
based his character is based on Stephen Sondheim,

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who loved to play games. He
loved games, he loved board games

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and just all kinds of games.
And Andrew Wyke is a mystery writer who

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loves games. And he has games
everywhere throughout his house. Darts and an

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old Egyptian game I think it's called
Senate. You know, just everywhere.

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Every inch of his house is covered
with stuff, and he has Milo Tindall,

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Michael Kaine's character over because he's having
an affair with his wife. Okay,

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And he tells him, hey,
look I've got a girlfriend on the

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side. I don't want my wife
anymore. You can have her, but

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you can't afford her. So what
you're gonna do is you're in a steal

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the jewels that are in my safe. I collect the insurance money, you

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sell the jewels. We both get
money, we both get the women we

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want. Everybody goes home happy.
Okay, that sounds for me. Okay.

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Then like the rest of it,
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He completely like strips Michael Kaine's character
of all dignity. Then Michael Kaine whips

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it around on him, then he
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it back. It is like this
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and you never really know who's on
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much fun. It's enjoyable. It's
very much like death Trap. It's like

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kind of like clue. Oh okay, you sold me right there with the

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house and like the tongue in cheek
and everything. And the issue that I

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have with this new version of Sleuth
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like Carol Pinner. Okay, I'm
just too angry and too like just aggressive

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for me. And all of his
people are hateful, like in his plays

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and movies, like they're always just
hateful people that you really don't care who

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wins. You really don't care,
like you're not rooting for anybody, you

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just hate them all, And so
it's all the charm is gone. You're

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not having any fun. I was
having fun. I was definitely having fun

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throughout the first act. And then
that is the most the same of the

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original. I will say. At
that point, the movie takes a huge

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left turn for me, and I'm
like, wait, hold on, what's

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what's going on? And I gotta
I gotta see the original now, because

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based on what you're saying, it
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Pinter he chose, he chose to
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you mentioned the dialogue all the line. Everything's pretty much different from the original,

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with exception to the basic premise of
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of wits. But I guess this
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Law right, because he's the one
that hands the play to Pinter and says,

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write a screenplay for me and kid
Brana and not Judlaw. I'm sorry,

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yeah, thank you, Jude Law. Yeah sorry. Branda does this

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like that's kind of what he did
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you watch the original Sidney Lamette nineteen
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very like it gets the humor of
Agatha Christie and it's kind of whimsical and

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kind of like a soap opera in
a way. And then when Branda does

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it, he does it completely straight. Okay, let me ask you this

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because I know I saw something that
was really interesting. I was. I

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noticed it when I watched it,
because you know, this was the first

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time watch for me. We initially
when we were talking about doing a Kenneth

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Brandon episode, it was between this
and I Think Dead Again Man, and

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we were like, you know what
where we do we want to go with?

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So good? All right, well, okay, I gotta I gotta

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watch it then I will haven't seen
it. I haven't seen it. Yeah,

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I haven't seen it. Holy guacamole. Oh it's so good. I

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just went in and thinking, oh, okay, Michael Kane remake of a

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Michael Kine movie. This could be
interesting. I was very excited for it.

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But and I remember when it first
came out, watching it, going

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what the hell is this? So
Branda intentionally uses claustrophobia in this movie?

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Is that? Is that prevailing in
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Branda does because but I love the
way he does it, Like when they

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get on the elevator, like I
was my skin with his crawling. Yeah,

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he does a vote claustrophobia. You
know, it's these odd angles he's

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shooting at. It's really tight scenery. I noticed the act You're standing incredibly

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close to one another, even I
mean even when they're not in that little

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elevator, it just feels uncomfortable,
Like the whole time you're watching it,

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it felt uncomfortable. So I didn't
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added to this film or if that's
something he kind of saw. Okay,

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okay, is that does it work
for what this movie is? Yeah?

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Absolutely, because you're saying these two
men are just like kind of trying to

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crawl inside each other's brain. And
you know, so that's just the physical

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manifestation of that you mentioned in the
original. You know, you you commented

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on how amazing the countryside house was
this house I think is absolutely stunning.

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I mean, if Patrick Bateman had
the apartment I aspire to rent, Andrew

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Wike's house is the home I want
to own. Are you a serial killer?

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No? But I would still live
there. You didn't like this house?

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This house is awesome, O,
like all concrete, Like on the

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outside it looks like a normal English
country home, and then you get inside

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it was all concrete and modern furniture
and okay, like the one chair you

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want to sit in. Okay,
so I will conceee that the furniture in

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the place looks like something Lydia Dietz
would have. But but the the the

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architecture of the house itself, the
just I will say this, I want

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her, okay, yeah, well
her, yeah, her. But even

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the fact that the wall has to
like rise up like it's not just a

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door, like a wall disappears like
a whole panel. I love this house.

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No, okay, No, I'm
very much like if I could have

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the house from Clue, I would
totally have it. Well, okay,

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so if if you're if you're saying, hey, you can choose between Wike's

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house or the Clue Mansion I'm definitely
taking the Clue mansion because for all I

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know, I would expect Whike to
have hidden passages in his house. But

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but I definitely don't get them in
the Clue house. So you got you

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got me there. But I don't
know. I was I was watching it.

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I was like, you know,
even like the the Odds sculptures,

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like that wire sculpture that's in the
Fourier. Yeah, and I read a

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thing that the jewels and all the
art, yeah, we're all on loan.

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Like they had to ensure them,
your kid bazillions of dollars because it

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was all like authentic British modern arts. Jewels are real and they had to

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have like their own special security and
all sorts. The idea that those that

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necklace, specifically that necklace is real. And watching Jude Law like because his

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his his his face, like just
the wonder of seeing it. M h.

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That was a great acting moment.
I was like, Wow, I

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was like that he's really selling this
because at that point I'm like, well,

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you know, some set designer,
you know, prop guy made that,

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you know, but to know that
that thing is real and he's just

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kind of the way it's gonna the
way it's getting handled. That that blows

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my mind. I could even imagine
the the insurance person on set just watching

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it and going, whoa easy,
easy, take it easy, you know.

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Yes, Let's let me ask you
this, uh pivotal scene. Is

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there a pivotal pivotal scene for you? You know, not not like the

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big climactic moment, but something that
really like you know, tells you like,

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Okay, now now I see where
we're going, you know, kind

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of kind of helps this movie out. I mean, I think the scene

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right after I don't want to give
too much away, but the scene right

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after they opened the safe okay,
yeah, but before the climax of that

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scene, like that section when you're
like, wait a minute, is he

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being serious or is he? And
I love the part the dialogue where he's

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like are you you or am?
I mean, oh yeah, that whole

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interchange. I loved all of that. It's an actor's movie because just hearing

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these guys fit this dialogue back and
forth at one another. There they are

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so in the moment and and you're
really caught up and I know what you're

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talking about because it definitely harkens back
to his performance in Death Trap where he's

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toying with the the younger actor and
you're like, well, okay, he's

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not is he Is he really going
to do it? Now, He's not

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gonna do it, so I know
exactly. And then he pulls out the

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key and he's like, I thought
you guys thought I was serious. Yeah,

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yeah, you know. You bring
up a good point. This is

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one of those movies that can definitely
be easily ruined if you say specific plot

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points. So I'll be careful just
for our listeners that are like, Okay,

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I gotta check this movie out,
and definitely if you're gonna watch this

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movie, please good to YouTube and
watch the original first. Really you say

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you say watch the first one and
then watch this one, because we yes,

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I don't think we need to go
too deep in to know that you're

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you're not overly happy with with this
film, But I would think you'd say

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you'd do it in reverse and then
like you know, like, hey,

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this was I see it was good. I see why it was good,

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but it wasn't for me. But
you know, now need a palate clinch.

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I'm going to watch a watch the
original. And that's a good point.

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But I feel like Michael Caine in
the original. There are so many

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layers to what he does and that
he brings to that character, and Sir

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Lawrence Livy is having the time of
his life. And he's one of those

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actors that Robert Burnette and I on
Docking Bay have talked about how Lawrence Livy

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was a stage actor. He was
not a screen actor. So sometimes his

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movies you're just kind of WinCE,
like, dude, you need to rein

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it in. But this one,
the director like really knew how to get

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just enough out of him where he's
doing different accents. He's running around the

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set like a crazy person. I
mean, he is just giving you abs

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every drop of sweat, and then
you know you've got that. And then

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you've got Michael Caine doing all these
neat subtle layers with his character. So

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I definitely think watched that one first. Okay, all right, you mean

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you mentioned Robert Burnett from Docking Bay. He's like he if you're the voice

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of reason, he's got to be
like the the historian, the curator of

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that show, right, Yes,
he definitely because he knows he knows everything

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about the Silent Era, the Golden
Era, the silver I don't care what

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era of Hollywood we're talking about.
He knows about it. Yes, I

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can make like connections to what you're
watching now that you would never have thought

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to make. I see myself like
sitting down, he's been like, hey,

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let's talk about Sir Lawrence Olivia and
I love him and clashed with the

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Titans, and he'd be like,
get out. No, he would say

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me too, but yeah he would, he would for me the pivotal scene,

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I guess I got be careful now. Three days later, when when

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when a police detective shows up to
the house, Yes, watching this and

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again we got these weird angles and
I'm like, oh, when I hear

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the detective speak, it was like
okay, And then I'm looking at him

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like if Michael Caine had the aggressor
role in the first act of this film.

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This detective shows up and completely takes
it, takes it over as far

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as I'm concerned, I mean,
and takes control very Yeah. Oh he

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is domineering to Kane in the in
this as we seem afraid of him,

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but he's only like power. Yeah. I found that weird that this this

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you know, maybe he's like,
okay, it's a it's a detective.

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I gotta watch what I'm doing,
watch what I'm saying, But he was

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subserving it to to what the detective
was saying and requesting. But at the

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same time, I'm like, dude, it's your house. You're Michael Kine,

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like what happened? But but I
do think he was very like wrong

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footed because his perception of reality and
what the detective is telling him is reality

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don't match up at all. No, this is where I talked about that

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that that weird left turn that the
movie takes. For me, I was

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like, OK, what's going on? Because the first act, and I

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know we don't want to give anything
away, but the first act really kind

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of leaves you wondering, like what
exactly happened to Jude Law? You know,

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what what's going on here? So
at this point it happened so fast

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you're kind of like, Okay,
where are we going now? Yeah,

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and I'm kind of like at this
point, I'm kind of I'm hesitant,

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you know, I'm intrigued, but
I'm hesitant, if that makes sense,

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because I was all in I'm on
the edge of my seat watching the first

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thirty minutes of this movie. First
twenty five minutes of this movie and then

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I'm like, uh, what's going
on here? You know, And there

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was a little bit of confusion,
which I'm I'm sure that's what Brandon wants

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you to have, is that confusion. But yeah, I'm not so sure.

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I liked where it was going.
You know. Let's take well,

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let's take one more break, and
when we get back, let's talk about

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the director, Kenneth Branna. We
are back with Amber Lewis of the Docking

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Bay seventy seven podcast talking about Kenneth
Branna. So a couple a couple of

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fun things for you to know about
this incredible actor and incredible director. Born

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December tenth, nineteen sixty in Belfast, Sir Kenneth Charles Branna moved to London

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to escape the Northern Ireland Conflict also
known as the Troubles, which most of

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us recognize as that that it's like. It was known as like a small

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scale war, but it lasted thirty
years. Brilliantly detailed that in the movie

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Belfast. If you haven't seen Belfast, it you are in for a powerful,

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powerful treat. It is on my
list and I'm ashamed to say I've

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not seen it because I saw the
trailer for it, I just thought,

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that's spectacular looking. I can't wait
to see it. It's it's so good.

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As far as the young Branda,
During school, he learns to speak

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without an Irish accent to avoid getting
bullied. You know. He goes on

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to train at the Royal Academy of
Dramatic Arts Amber in nineteen eighty The principal

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asks him to perform Hamlet for Queen
Elizabeth the Second during her visit. If

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if that is not telling you,
If that's not you knowing that you've made

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it already, I don't know what
else is. I'm gonna throw this one

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in there. For our buddy Dayton
at Docking Base seventy seven. His first

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film appearance was an uncredited role as
a student in nineteen eighty one's Chariots of

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Forts of Fire. If You Live
If You've listened to the big team up

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episode between US Docum Based seventy seven
Shirley Can't Be Serious Podcasts thirty something movie

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podcast, uh deff Dave, we
did like the best year for the nineteen

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eighties. Dayton valiantly defended nineteen eighty
one as his choice, and I had

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some things to say about Charis far
he kind of won me ever take his

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side. I gotta spend really Okay, Well, yeah, he made some

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good points. It was a good
episode. Then if if if people walked

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away changed, then then then then
we did what we were supposed to do,

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I guess. But let's talk a
little bit about his filmography. So

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starting with Henry the Fifth. Now, Amber, you said this was the

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movie that made you a huge fan. This is nineteen eighty nine. He

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does Henry the Fifth. You want
to you know, I knew nothing about

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it. All I knew we hadn't
read it in school. That wasn't one

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of the ones that we did in
school. All I knew was that everybody

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was talking about it. You know. It was this great new director and

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this great new adaptation and they were
talking Academy Awards and he's the next Olivier

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and everybody went nuts. And so
I rented it and was just completely blown

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away and had the poster in my
room for many many years. I have

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seen it so many times. It's
so spectacular with there's a baby Christian Bale

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in there, you know, Judy
Dench, Emma Thompson, Paul Scholfield.

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I mean, just all these amazing
actors and the music is spectacular. It's

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just the best adaptation. It's not
gonna be the last time he does Shakespeare.

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But two years later, he does
this this very intense crime mystery called

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Debt Again with you know, he's
back with Emma Thompson, Andy Garcia is

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in it. I oh, okay, yeah, it's so good. I

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gotta tell you, like, I
I'm glad we're talking about Sleuth, but

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I regret that we're not talking about
Debt Again because you know your reaction at

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the beginning, when you're like,
oh, dead again, you could have

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done Dead Again. Yes, I'm
like, oh okay, Well you watch

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it and then you'll be like,
oh, we gotta do another episode.

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Hey, you know, I'm I'm
always happy to talk about Keath Branna.

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So if that's what it takes,
then then absolutely. Nineteen ninety two.

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So a year later he does a
movie called Peter's Friend Peter's Friends. Yes,

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have you seen this one? Oh? Yeah, I saw it in

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the theater. You are the person
that needed to be on this this this

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episode, because seriously, like you
had no idea, how obsessed? No,

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okay, tell me tell me about
Peter's Friends. Because he's with Emma

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Thompson again, right, Well they
were married, okay, so this is

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yeah, they're doing like the husband
and wife thing. Okay, so yes,

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and these are all of their friends
from college. Emma Thompson went to

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Cambridge with Hugh Lowry and Stephen Fry. Is you in this movie? Yeah,

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Hugh Lowry and Emmelda Stoughton, professor
Unbridge from Harry Potter is in it.

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She plays his wife. Stephen Fry
is in it. I'm trying to

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think who else I know, I'm
forgetting other actors, but there they were.

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All they played friends from college who
have now gone out and done very

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sincendry other things. And they Peter
has invited them to his home for New

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Year's okay, and this is the
first time they've gotten together in the ten

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years since they've left school. I
feel good comedy then, and it is,

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but it's also very you know,
life has happened to them, and

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some of them have had happy things
happen. Some of them have struggled.

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Kath Branda is married to uh,
do you remember the comedian Rita Rudner,

455
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Yeah, his wife. Yeah,
okay, and you know they're struggling in

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their marriage, you know, and
so it's just kind of are we the

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same people that we used to be? Who did we grow into? Are

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we still friends? You know?
It's it's very big, chill kind of

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vibe. This guy is not slowing
down because in nineteen eighty three he's back

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with Shakespeare. He's again Emma Thompson
becoming quickly becoming like the mus to go

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to, uh actress to work with? Yes, such ado about nothing.

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This cast. I don't know whether
you like Branda, whether you don't,

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even if you didn't like Shakespeare.
If you see the cast, this is

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like a you gotta watch it,
right, because we're talking about these two.

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Denzel Washington, Keanu Reeves, all
these unexpected Yeah, Michael Keaton,

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like who thought of him doing Shakespeare? But nobody. But I mean,

467
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you know, he's Batman, so
he can be Batman. Can he can

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do Shakespeare? Right? Yeah?
Thoughts on what you do about nothing?

469
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You a fan of that one?
Oh? Yeah? I love it.

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I love the play and it's very
he makes it very sexy. It's very

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you know, we're rolling through the
Italian country side and everybody's tan and you

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know, curly hair and uh he
handles the the challenges of the play really

473
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well, because it's a lot of
like misunderstandings and and you know, things

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like that that kind of drive the
story and sometimes work better on stage than

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on screen. But he handles it
really well and very romantic. You're talking

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sexy Kenneth Branna. And that leads
me to nineteen ninety four's Frankenstein. Yes,

477
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come on, the boy got swollen
for that one. The abs on

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Kenneth Branda. Yes, they would
drop him from the car on the way

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to the set, like six miles
away, and he would run the rust

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away Jesus. And he's done a
Dustin Hoffman marathon Man thing. You have

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to do some prush ups. And
here's what I don't get. The critics

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really lashed out at him on this
one, and they were like, oh,

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well, he's he's finally made a
mistake. He's finally you know,

484
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he's overwhelmed. He can't do everything. I don't get that, because you've

485
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got an incredible You've got an incredible
cast, you know, de Niro,

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Branda, Tom Holts is in this, Helen A. Bottom Carter, I

487
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love it. You know, it's
it's It was criticized a lot by people

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that it hadn't read the book.
Oh yeah, I definitely, because it's

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not. If you're looking for Colin
Clive and Karloff, you know they're not

490
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gonna find him here. No,
not, not in this one. And

491
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and I'm glad because I this is
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and it's it's it's gritty,

492
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it's dirty, it's grimy, it's
it's kind of great. Oh yeah,

493
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it's there's definitely some gross elements to
it, but it is It's one

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of my favorite, uh favorite films
of his. And also I would argue

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paid the way for the stage production
of Frankenstein, starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Johnny

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Lee Miller. They alternated playing the
doctor and the monster. I'm not gonna

497
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get that right without brand available on
National Theater Live, and it's completely you

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know, the adaptation of the book. And I agree, I don't think

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you're going to get there without this. He's got two more movies in the

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nineties again in this guy just never
takes a break because the following year in

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nineteen ninety five, now he's doing
a Midwinter's Tale and he not seen that

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one. Okay, okay, when
I've missed. So to me, that's

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just that kind of sounds like,
Okay, he's in his comfort zone.

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He's he's doing theater type stuff.
He's doing. Yeah, you know,

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I kind of thought, well,
Frankenstein took a whiff, so doing back.

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Yeah, maybe he's maybe he's feeling
a little hurt from the harsh critics

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and jumps into it because well,
in his life was a mess too,

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because he had an affair with hell
on the Bottom Carter on that movie and

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then got divorced and it was a
hot mess. So yeah, not not

510
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easy, not easy going for him. Yeah, poor guy. Yeah,

511
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well he did himself. But yeah, I mean yeah he did. Yeah,

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he had an affair with Helen A
Bottom Carter. I'm not like he

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cheated on Emma Thompson. You're but
yeah, I love him, so I

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will forgive him. Okay, we
can look for him. We're off.

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Yeah, nineteen ninety six. More
Shakespeare. He's got a Hamlet. Did

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you see the Hamlet? Yes?
Just to get through the whole four hours,

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I'll tell you, I'll be honest. When I first saw it,

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yeah, I was much younger.
I probably the first time I saw it.

519
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I know, I watched maybe an
hour before I was like, okay,

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I need to, you know,
because then I'm looking at it,

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I'm like, wait, this is
a this is a double cassette cluster.

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I'm not I'm not. I'm not
spending the whole weekend with Hamlet. But

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now you go back and you and
you visit this one. I don't know

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that there's anyone currently. I don't
know that there's anyone better suited to play

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play that role than him, honestly, can you know? I've seen like

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every version and I love them all. I think that's one of the great

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things about Hamlet is he really is
whoever's playing him. You know, that's

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the only way you can survive it
is you have to make it your own.

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So I've never seen one that I
didn't like. Two thousand, your

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two thousand. We're sticking with the
with what works. He's back with more

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Shakespeare Loves Labors Lost like a forties
musical. I didn't see this one.

532
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I gotta I gotta be honest thoughts
thoughts on it. I felt like he

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was like unleashing his inner musical theater. Okay, you know, like he

534
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had this uh you know, song
and dance man bursting to come out.

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Do you recommend it? Though?
Yeah, it wasn't a play that I

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was really familiar with, and you
know, I thought the cast was really

537
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it was interesting because they were uh, kind of a mixture of ages and

538
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very charming and you know, love
the use of music. So definitely,

539
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if you're doing a Shakespeare thing,
I definitely say go for it. Okay,

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I will. I will admit this
is a period of Brandon where I'm

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kind of I'm very hit and miss. More on the miss. He's really

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he's really delving into the you know, the theater, you know, the

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love of theater. Two thousand and
three he does a short called Listening,

544
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But then two thousand and six he
does as You Like It with Bryce Dallas.

545
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Howard thoughts on that one, well, she tried to skip Okay,

546
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that tells me maybe we're skipping this
one. Yeah. I mean I don't

547
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like to play that much, and
I just she did her best. Well

548
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what do you think of He's so
he's doing double duty here, he's at

549
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two movies in two thousand and six
because he also does the magic flute,

550
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which you know, again I'm like, wow, he's just he's really leaning

551
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into this stuff. On that one, he was really like just trying to

552
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experiment. Yeah, well this is
this is Mozart. Yeah, okay,

553
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you know, let's give it a
try and see what happens. All right.

554
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Well, two thousand and seven he
gives the remake, No it's not

555
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a remake, a try, and
uh, we saw what happens. Amber

556
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Amber Lewis is not too much of
a fan of Sleuth, but watch the

557
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original he goes. He goes in
a whole new direction in twenty eleven when

558
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he joins the MCU and he gives
us Thor, and I could not believe

559
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it. I was like, what, And then I saw an interview with

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him where he talked about he loved
Thor when he was a kid, he

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read the comics and did like the
whole thing. And I just thought,

562
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what a neat like layer to find
out about this person that you know a

563
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lot about because you've been a fan
of him for so long, and then

564
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you find out like he's got this
little this little comic book art. You

565
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.519
know. The thing is with Thor, like when you watched it, especially

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when you watch the first one,
it's I don't know, I think with

567
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with brand doing it, it gives
it a little more gravitas, like I

568
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:05.480
believe the drama unfolding on Nasgard a
lot more and it you know, I

569
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.000
remember, like when that movie was
coming out, my first thought was,

570
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we have got a realistic world of
superheroes because of Iron Man, And how

571
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can you add magic, like like
Thor, It's not gonna make sense,

572
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.000
it's not gonna work, it's not
gonna it's gonna it's just gonna clash.

573
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And what he did in Thor is
fantastic because even the thought that you're having

574
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Thor gives you that that explanation.
You know, what you call magic,

575
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:36.639
we call science, and I love
it. He opened up that world,

576
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you know where you were like,
okay, it's a rainbow bridge, like

577
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.880
sure, why not, I'm in
and yeah, and so you know,

578
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.519
kind of like we were talking earlier, you know, without this, you

579
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:53.280
don't have doctor Strange with the like
kaleidoscope and the hands grown out of his

580
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.400
eyeball and I don't even know what. So you know, you have to

581
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:05.599
accept that more metaphysical idea. And
this is exactly where it came from,

582
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:10.000
because before that it was you know, drink a potion and you get muscles

583
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.159
or you know, build a suit
or whatever, you know, get bit

584
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:20.760
by a spider. But this really
just launched us into this whole, you

585
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:27.320
know, other dimension. Let's talk
about the twenty fourteen He takes on the

586
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.920
character Jack Ryan. He does he
We had knew Jack Ryan movie. This

587
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is our what fourth actor to play? This is Jack Ryan shadow recruit that

588
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.719
he does. You know, we
had Harrison Ford. I'm sorry, we

589
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.480
had Alec Baldwin. Baldwin, then
we had Harrison Ford, then we had

590
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.480
Chris no Ben Affleck and now we
got Chris Pine. I think this was

591
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:55.519
definitely an improvement over Afflex Jack Ryan. I did not see Afflex, but

592
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.039
I had to say I just watched
this one not too long ago. Yeah,

593
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I got on a Chris Pine kick
and so I was like watching everything

594
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he ever did, and it is
a delightful movie. I gotta wonder why

595
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this didn't kind of take off,
Like, why didn't we get more Chris

596
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.559
Pine Jack Ryan. Maybe he was
just too young. But I felt like

597
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.559
Kenneth Branna did a great job with
the action and the you know, the

598
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.639
spy mystery of it all, and
you know, I thought he really had

599
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a handle on it. But maybe
Pine was just too young. I don't

600
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.159
know. I mean, I was
one of those, and it's one of

601
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.000
those things like you know, you
got Kevin Costner. He's acting opposite Kevin

602
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.440
Costner, who is still prime Costner. Yeah, so I don't know.

603
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.079
Maybe maybe it's just the wrong time. I know, uh, you know,

604
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.360
the Star Trek, the whole Star
Trek. Things going crazy for him

605
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.840
at this point too. So maybe
I don't know, maybe there were some

606
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:59.079
just some situations where he couldn't do
both or twenty fifteen, Brandon addres Cinderella.

607
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.519
Oh love it so much. Okay, so I've not seen it,

608
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:13.480
but it's got Richard Charming, you
got Kate Blanchet, you got Helena Bona

609
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.199
Carter again, is this now?
Answer this for me because I'm because I

610
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.920
don't know. Is this like a
straight Is this like one of the one

611
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.599
of those Disney Live action type things? Are is just like its own thing?

612
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:31.400
Yeah, it's it's absolutely the story
that you recognize. It's Disney Live

613
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:40.280
action. Lily James plays Cinderella and
she is just delightful. Kate Blanchett is

614
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:50.119
just perfectly evil. The step Sisters
are funny. It really is the animated

615
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:54.679
film he had he keeps the mice, but like they don't talk, you

616
00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.960
know, but you still get them
there, you know, the the Fairy

617
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.000
Godmother. She doesn't sing bibbity boppity
boo, but she does say it.

618
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.920
Okay, you know, So it's
realistic, but it keeps all the charm

619
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.639
and the whimsy and the delight of
the animated. And Cinderella is my favorite,

620
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:22.679
like old school Disney movie. I
really had high expectations and I was

621
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:29.199
pleasantly surprised. Amber recommends, we
got to put it on the list next

622
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.280
couple of years. I've got a
lot of work to do. What to

623
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.199
watch uh next? Over the next
couple of years, he's he's he's doing

624
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:42.480
a live theater. He's got Winner's
Tale, Romeo and Juliet. But twenty

625
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:49.880
seventeen we get Murder on the Orient
Express and I could not be happier.

626
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.599
Loved this movie, loved the cast, and I loved Hercuio Burro. I

627
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.280
never watched like because I know we've
seen this character many times on the BBC,

628
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.639
and I never once watched any of
those this movie. Maybe when I

629
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.000
go back and see see him now. So, what are your thoughts on

630
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.519
the Orange Express? Oh? Wow? Well, like I said earlier,

631
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:20.960
the original was a little camp you
know, very you know, there is

632
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:25.039
an element of Agatha Christie that is
a little irreverent, tongue in cheek British

633
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:32.199
humor, and it definitely played into
that. So this one was a surprise

634
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.960
because, like I said, he
takes it so seriously, Like the murder

635
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:45.719
scene is when you finally see it, it's dramatic and intense, where in

636
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.599
the original it was a little soap. Operation was like this is from my

637
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.760
sister, you know, which is
fine, it's fun. I liked it,

638
00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:00.719
you know, but this one was
just you know, it was sad

639
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:07.119
and it was powerful. I thought
Michelle Phiffer did a great job. I

640
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.719
love her so Robert and round and
round over hers, but she's the But

641
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.480
I love her and I think she
was great in this. And I love

642
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.679
the orient express like just the idea
of the train and the elegance of it

643
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:28.960
all. How could Robert not like
Michelle Pfiffer, Like what Michelle her his

644
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.920
groceries at the grocery store when she
was like a sullen teenager, And that's

645
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.920
like his thought bubble every time he
Caesar is like what she You're not an

646
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.280
a glamorous person. Did she put
the milk on top of the eggs?

647
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:50.920
Like what she happened? She made
an impression that lasted. I'm gonna find

648
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.800
a Michelle Phifer movie for us to
cover, just so I can have him

649
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.800
on here and and then just go
back and forth with why she's why she's

650
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:06.800
amazing. But yes, I have
nothing more than arguing with him to argue

651
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:13.000
with. Twenty eighteen, No surprise, we are covering William Shakespeare. Only

652
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.239
this time the movie is All Is
True and it's about Shakespeare's final days,

653
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:22.719
and he's playing Shakespeare. I have
not seen this one either, but he's

654
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:28.280
completely unrecognizable. Yeah, it doesn't
look like him at all. I want

655
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.000
to check it out, just because
you know, I'm looking at the I'm

656
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.280
just looking at the poster, and
I see Dame Judy Dinch, I see

657
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.599
Ian McKellen, Like, yep,
there's there's one we gotta watch. I

658
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:43.440
got so much. Okay, well
I've got prime, so I'll cue that

659
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:49.360
one up for sure. Twenty twenty, he takes a different step with Artemis

660
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.199
foul. Now this was correct me
if I'm wrong? Was Amber? Was

661
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.599
this one of those that Disney like
Day and Date, this went straight to

662
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.599
Disney Plus or am I think about
a different movie? Nope, it was

663
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:05.320
that one. It was Disney Plus
Liam and I had my son also a

664
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:13.280
docking Bay guest on occasion. Liam
adores Artemis Foul not as much as Percy

665
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:17.719
Jackson, but almost and has read
the books many times and I read the

666
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:23.960
books to him. So we struggled
with it just because it was not the

667
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:28.800
universe that was in our head.
I got you, and they made changes

668
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:35.599
to the storyline where they were trying
to like incorporate like the first three books,

669
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.679
and we wish they would have just
like picked one and stuck with it.

670
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.159
But it is delightful. I mean, it's fun. If you're not,

671
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:46.719
you know, really married to the
books, like you'll enjoy it.

672
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:52.119
I would say I would accept.
If I'm not mistaken, this is one.

673
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.360
This is one of the projects that
Disney Plus did, the did the

674
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.679
right off thing. They like they
acted like a bunch of their original content.

675
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.639
Then I'm pretty sure this movie was
was out with like the Willow the

676
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.920
series they did, and a bunch
of other movie projects. So whether or

677
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.039
not they bring it back or you
find it somewhere, I don't know,

678
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:21.519
but I know, I know we've
already talked about Belfast earlier, but twenty

679
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:27.519
twenty one, I didn't see it
yet. But it's it's a it's a

680
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.360
must. You're saying, well,
start with Belfast. Yeah, I don't

681
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:37.159
know. Dead again though, Oh
okay, double features a double feature,

682
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:42.199
there it is. But I know, just based on what you had to

683
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.960
say about Belfast, I've got to
I've got to check it out. And

684
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.440
knowing his background, knowing knowing that
he lived, this is is again,

685
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.480
I'm like, Wow, this is
this is gonna be amazing. Yeah.

686
00:55:52.519 --> 00:56:02.199
There is a scene with Judy Dench
and they had done several takes and he

687
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:07.760
finally got the exact perfect take that
he wanted and he goes back to the

688
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.239
tent, you know, to like
watch it play back. Yeah, and

689
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:17.280
he hears this noise in the background. He's like, what is that And

690
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.760
his script supervisor was standing there and
she goes, that's the sound of you

691
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:27.800
gasping when she did exactly what she
wanted her to do. And he was

692
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.599
like, well, we can like
take that out right. The sound goes

693
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:37.079
like we can hear of that because
it's just the most powerful moment and when

694
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.800
you realize, like you said,
he he's talking about his grandparents and his

695
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:45.480
parents and the people that lived next
door to him, and you know,

696
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:54.480
things that happened to him. It's
just breathtaking. Okay, Well, he's

697
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:58.760
on the when we when we hit
the twenties, he's on this this kick

698
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:00.920
where he's pumping out of movie every
single year because he you know, Artemis

699
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:06.280
found in twenty twenty Belfast twenty twenty
one. In twenty twenty two, he

700
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:14.119
is back as a Hercio Perro Death
on the Nile, And for me,

701
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.519
I gotta say, if if if
I was expecting, I was like,

702
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.920
you know, it'd be fun,
because but it won't. They probably won't

703
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:25.039
be better than the first one they
did this movie. I like this one

704
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.599
more than Murder on the Orient Express. What about you, oh, Dassie.

705
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:35.840
I like Murder on the Orient Express
better. I liked that cast better.

706
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:42.960
A lot of the characters that I
like in Death on the Nile didn't

707
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.960
get enough time. For me.
I wanted more of them, you know,

708
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.360
I got you. I wanted more
French and Sanders. I wanted more

709
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:58.440
Anette Benning, you know, and
and they changed something that I didn't agree

710
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:05.239
with, so I was like,
what the heck? But still, any

711
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:07.800
any Agath Christie is fun for me, So I did. I did enjoy

712
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:15.400
it. I loved it. Gilgadat
is always just mesmerizing when she's on the

713
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.679
screen. As far as I'm concerned
and not known, not being familiar.

714
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.920
I didn't read the novel. I
hadn't seen any of the BBC stuff,

715
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:28.440
So I remember the first time I
saw it, I'm we're over halfway through

716
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.559
and I'm like, what's the mystery
because no one has been murdered, right,

717
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.039
And I was shocked. I was
shocked when they walked into her bedroom.

718
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:45.119
So yeah, I love it.
Great performances. Army Hammer is fantastic

719
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:46.599
in it. That was before he
got canceled and we never heard from him

720
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:53.320
again. But you know, everyone
that's in this movie is just fantastic and

721
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.400
and kind of a dagger in the
heart too because it's his buddy from the

722
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.679
first one from Murder on the ordin
Express. Yeah, I was so pleased

723
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.480
to see him back, and you
know, we know how that ends.

724
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.199
But and that was the thing that
made me mad because that does not happen.

725
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.039
Okay. I kind of got the
idea that this guy and I was

726
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.599
like, like his recurrent character,
like, you know, he's like the

727
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.880
foil, like okay, and I
love that actor. You know, it's

728
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.599
like, why did you make me
love this guy so much? Yeah?

729
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:28.039
He was he was always fun to
watch. He's fantastic the book end of

730
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:34.199
the World War One backstory and then
in the end, you know he shaved

731
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.920
the mustache and yeah, his relationship
with Sophie Okoneto is just charming. I

732
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:44.679
didn't realize I love the opening though. You know in World War One,

733
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.880
we're you know, in the trenches
and and you see that captain with the

734
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.199
with the mustache, and I'm like, and originally I'm thinking, well,

735
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:57.320
that's if he's trying to be a
younger Kenneth Brander, like they why didn't

736
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.840
they do why didn't they get someone
young her? Or why don't they get

737
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:04.280
and then you the big reveal.
I just was like, oh my god.

738
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.159
You know I always love that that
digital daging stuff they do. Yes,

739
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.440
always fun to see that stuff.
Amber you have not been to the

740
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:19.840
theater to see a Haunting in Venice. It is our Robert and I almost

741
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.639
share birthday, and so we have
a date to go see Haunting in Venice,

742
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:29.400
but we haven't been able to make
it yet. I implore you to

743
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:36.800
see this one. This one's based
off of her story Halloween Party. Yes,

744
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.440
I book. I haven't read it, Okay, I can tell you

745
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:45.360
there's some subtle changes and I knew
this just doing some research on the movie

746
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.960
before I saw it. But it's
I don't think it's changes that you're gonna

747
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.440
be like, oh, they ruined
it. You know. It's like it's

748
01:00:52.480 --> 01:01:00.760
small things. But this movie is
the perfect marriage between you know, pero

749
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:07.039
mystery and supernatural horror film. The
line he was excited, Like I was

750
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:12.559
watching it and it was weird.
It was creepy because I was like,

751
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.960
I went to a late show.
I'm the only one in the theater and

752
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:21.559
it's spooky and there's you know,
just the scenery and the performances and some

753
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.199
of his his his his shots.
I was a little creeped out here.

754
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:30.679
And there see I haven't seen I
saw the first teaser trailer and that is

755
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:36.119
it. Like I literally just discovered, I think yesterday, that Tina Fey

756
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:42.480
is in it. Oh gosh.
Tina Fey love Liz Lemon. She's known

757
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.719
for her comedic genius, and this
is a role where she is She's not

758
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:52.639
playing a comedic, She's not in
a comedic role, so she's I want

759
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.239
to say that her character is loosely
and I don't know because I didn't do

760
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:58.559
any kind of research, but I
want to say that her characters loosely based

761
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:05.000
on Agatha Christie because she's like this
famous author who has made Pero famous,

762
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.719
so to speak, writing about him. So the whole that's and that's the

763
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:12.039
whole premise is like she can't you
know, she's stumps, she can't figure

764
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.920
out this mysterious thing, and she's
calling on Pero. But the banter that

765
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:22.480
they have is spectacular because you know, he's very the pro character is very

766
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:30.360
egocentric. Imagine a female version of
Pero trying to put him in his place,

767
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:36.400
you know, and then going back
and forth. Michelle Yao is super

768
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:39.880
creepy in the movie, really fun
to watch. It's it's again. It's

769
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:43.559
one of those casts where he gets
he gets just the right a balance of

770
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:47.199
like here's a superstar and here's some
really well known character actors. I think

771
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:52.000
you're gonna like it. And the
young kid, the little the little kid

772
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:57.800
that I don't know if you see
him in the trailer or not. There's

773
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.000
a young boy and walking away,
you're like, man, did that kid

774
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:07.280
steal the show? That's all I'll
say. Oh boy, yeah, stret

775
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.239
to look forward to. Yeah,
don't say anymore. That's that's all I'll

776
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:14.639
say about that movie. But here's
what I'll say about as we wrap up.

777
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:20.320
Here's what I'll say about Keneth Branna. Currently, nothing scheduled, no

778
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:24.920
projects announced. So I ask you, if if you could have your choice,

779
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.239
Amber, what do you want to
see Keith Branna do next? Like?

780
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.000
Are you ready for more Shakespeare or
you're ready for more Perot? What

781
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.119
would you like to see him do? Oh? Okay, So I'm sorry.

782
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:38.679
While you were talking, I was
like, oh, who's this kid

783
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.639
in uh hanting in Venice? Because
I thought I knew who it was.

784
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:49.079
It's the kid from Belfast? Oh
is it that plays young Kenneth Branna?

785
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.719
Yeah? Now I really got to
see Belfast because he is spectacular. So

786
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.119
what do I want to see Kenneth
Brana? I do next? I am

787
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.800
greedy, greedy, greedy for Christopher
Nolan, and I feel like Kenneth Branna

788
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:08.639
is becoming what Michael Kaine was to
Christopher Nolan. Michael Kaine's not working as

789
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.920
much anymore, and so I feel
like Keneth Branna's kind of slid in there,

790
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:18.039
and he was not in Oppenheimer near
enough. So I'd love for them

791
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:26.079
to hook up and do something else, you know. I I would love

792
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.760
to see another Shakespeare. We haven't
seen a Shakespeare in a while, all

793
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:34.360
right, you know, and there's
plenty of Sas out there. And yeah,

794
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:38.880
you know, like he did he
did Thor We were just talking about

795
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.599
that, so you know, my
all time favorite is Midsummer So he could

796
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.840
do a Midsummer Night's stream and make
it, you know, really magical and

797
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:53.000
fairies. And I know, as
far as I'm concerned, I think it's

798
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:58.480
Agatha Christie's great grandson is in charge
of her estate at this point, so

799
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.719
he's the one that's kind of calling
the shots on the movies, like whether

800
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:05.239
or not they're gonna make more.
Okay, I read recently, so she

801
01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:09.559
she ended up writing I want to
say, thirty three novels. So he

802
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:15.199
was like, hey, there's there's
tons of material. We love, Kenneth

803
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.679
Brandau. We will happily make every
last one of these if if he wants

804
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.280
to keep coming back and doing them, you know, So me, I'm

805
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:31.360
gonna be ingredients say more Paro because
I that mustache his You don't get Barrow,

806
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:36.440
but you get Kenneth Branda directing a
Miss Marple. Okay, now you

807
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:43.880
that's uh, that's something that would
definitely entertain because I kind of feel like

808
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.199
the Pero that universe or that character
we kind of got got to him at

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like later in his life, like
he's he's already famous and he's already wanting

810
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:55.679
to kind of get out of that
that life. So I don't know how

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any more he's going to do,
But if if Brandon goes behind the camera

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01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:03.960
and directs him marpl I would definitely
want to see that. Absolutely. As

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far as seeing Brandon film, though, Amber, I think I know where

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01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:13.840
you're were heading. But I'm gonna
ask, do you recommend seeing his two

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thousand and seven Sleuth? You know
I'm always going to support my boy,

816
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:25.559
so I will say yes, but
only after you watch the original and you

817
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:30.360
watch all of it. Kenneth Branna's
other movies, all right, I think

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.920
if you enjoy watching what could be
called an actor's movie, then then definitely

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01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:38.360
check it. Out. The first
act is flawless. The film after that

820
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.719
tends to lose steam as far as
I'm concerned, but it definitely keeps you

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01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:44.760
guessing. I've put all the blame
on Harold Pinter, though I don't blame

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01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.119
Keneth Branna, and I don't blame
Mi Cocaine or Jude Law I will I

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01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:56.840
will never blame uh. I know
this is streaming on Stars. It's available

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01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.599
to rent on Prime and YouTube and
Google plays that. Did you catch it

825
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.800
on one of those? Uh?
Yeah, I got it somehow. I

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have Stars through Hulu. I don't
even know, okay, but I was

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on the Hulu so I watched it
there. It's like that community chess card.

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But I mean, Bank Aaron your
favorite. Everyone is going to go

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to YouTube and watch the original SLUP. I will definitely watch that. Well,

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01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:23.519
Amber, I definitely want to thank
you for joining us. I trust

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we have not seen the last of
you. I hope not. I know

832
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.360
we've got a fun one coming up. Oh yeah, yeah, that'll be

833
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:34.079
for our Patreon. We I know
Christmas time, you and Dayton will be

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01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:41.119
doing a nineteen seventy six episode with
US. I know we're gonna cover a

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01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:44.079
star is Born. I was gonna
jump in there and say that, but

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then I was like, maybe the
plan has changed. Nope, the plan,

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01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:51.599
the plan continues. I'm excited because
I've seen them all, so that

838
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:56.159
is exactly what's gonna make you,
the guests that we need to hear.

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01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.960
I have a lot of opinions about
each one. All right, thank you

840
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.760
so much for letting me geek out
about Kenneth Brana. This is much fun,

841
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:11.719
always a pleasure. I will let
our listeners know we got more for

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01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:16.960
you tomorrow this Wednesday. Come back
for Drawn Into Lower Decks. Ensigns Scott

843
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:20.960
and Wayne are back to recap the
latest episode of Star Trek Lower Decks.

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I've been saying this and I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep saying it. If you

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01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:29.640
are a Star Trek fan, if
you're if you're a casual Star Trek fan,

846
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:30.760
or if you're just like a,
hey, I saw rathakon and I

847
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.880
don't know if it's Star Trek's for
me. I'm telling you, Lower Decks

848
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:40.079
is one of the funniest, most
original things I've ever seen. It's it's

849
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:45.720
a it's an animated Star Trek show
that's got a lot of adult humor and

850
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.199
it is. It is fantastic,
one of my favorite Star Trek things.

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01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:55.239
Now and after that. Next week, Amber was talking about sharing her birthday

852
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:59.640
with Robert Burnette. Next week,
I will celebrate my birthday by discussing my

853
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.199
altar, my favorite film, Rocky, on our limited nineteen seventy six series.

854
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:08.479
Our friend Andy Tom will be on
hand to talk with me and share

855
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:13.840
his experiences running those exact same streets
in Philly. Thanks for making a film

856
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:15.680
by a part of your podcast listening
day,