Aug. 12, 2024

M. Night Shyamalan - Split

M. Night Shyamalan - Split
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Season 5A Film By...

With some time to spare before they head to the theater to see "Trap," Jeff and David dive into M. Night Shyamalan's twisted tale about a young woman held prisoner by one man, and his 24 personalities. It's a tense conversation about incredible performances, and an ending no one could have seen coming on this episode about M. Night Shyamalan's "Split!"

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Okay, so we want we want the twelve o'clock show

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for Trap.

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Yeah, that sounds about right.

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Now.

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There's not enough seats left for that one, so there's

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a four thirty five. I guess it's gonna have to do,

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isn't it. Okay, I'll think I'm getting them buying the tickets. Now,

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I'll tell you what. We got some time to kill.

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Why don't we talk.

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About uh, since we're since we're go see Trap, let's

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let's talk about a film by m Night Shyamalan. Yeah,

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let's do it, all right, Let's let's do his twenty

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sixteen psychological thriller Split. Hello, everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm

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David Byrne, and this is a film by podcast.

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Before we get.

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Going, Dave, I wanna, I want to do a quick

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shout out to one of our one of our Patreon subscribers.

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Let's do it.

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We actually did an episode for this member. But I

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saw this and it just made me. It just made

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me smile, talking about Nan Lewis, who recently shouted us

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out on Facebook. All capitals love this episode. Robert Altman,

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the player. I love that she loves the episode. Dave,

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if you listen to me and Amber talk. I was

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not much of a I didn't have much love for

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the player.

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Amber did, but ever loved it.

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But Nan Nan goes on to write, such fantastic points

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of view, so much fun.

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If you like the movie, you'll love this podcast. Nan.

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We love your feedback. We always love when you when

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you shout us out on social media. So thank you

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very much. We we appreciate you, and we're very happy

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that you you enjoyed the episode.

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Absolutely, thanks man.

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So Dave, I know you're excited to see Trap. I'm

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excited to see Trap. But before we get to that,

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I want to talk about one one of my favorite

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M Night movies.

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And listen, here here's the deal.

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So we got we got an m Night Shyamalan movie

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in the theaters next month.

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We've got that.

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Remember we saw the trailer for Speak No Evil.

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Yeah, that creepy.

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Uh looks like a like a like a thriller with

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with James McAvoy, who is clearly the villain.

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Oh clearly. Yeah.

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So how you know we got We got Macavoy back

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as a villain. We got m Night Shyamalan back. You

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know we got we got we gotta talk Split.

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Right, clearly it's meant to be off. Yeah.

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For for listeners that have not seen Split, you wanna

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you wanna break it down for us, you wanna give

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us little synopsis I do.

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I just want to give a warning though, if you've

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not seen this movie, please go watch it first. I

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know we don't usually give thee the warning of spoilers,

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but we're gonna be talking about spoilers in this one,

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so please, oh yeah, go watch it. Casey and her

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friends just finish celebrating a birthday. When heading home, something

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horribly goes wrong. The girls are abducted by Dennis, a

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man with twenty three different personalities. He locks them in

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a room together, seemingly toying with them, wanting something. As

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the girls trying to find an escape, Dennis starts to

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unravel more and more, even with the help of his psychiatrist,

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leading him to a frightful twenty fourth personality, one that

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changes them into something unknown by human standards, and one

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that will lead to a confrontation with those he has

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held hostage.

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That is fantastic. Thank you for that. You mentioned.

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You mentioned that James McAvoy the character Dennis, and this

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is one of twenty twenty three, twenty four personalities. And

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I know this for our listeners, this might get a

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little confusing, especially if you haven't seen the movie. So

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I hope you took Dave's you heeded Dave's advice, and

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you you just hit pause and you went to go

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check out this film. But I want to talk a

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little bit about the background. M Knight wrote the Kevin

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Wendell Crumb character to be the antagonist in Unbreakable.

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Correct.

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He didn't feel it was right, so he heads in

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a different direction with Samuel Jackson's Elijah Price character who

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becomes mister Glass, but then decides to revisit the Kevin

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Wendell Crumb character fifteen years later and brilliant.

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Go ahead, sorry, but this was it was brilliant. In

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my opinion, I'm giving us the story revisiting it fifteen

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years later. It kind of worked out to his advantage

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that he left this to do it fifteen years later

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in my.

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Opinion, Well, yeah, I absolutely agree with you, and think

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about this. You and I huge fans of Unbreakable.

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I've said it before.

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It is one of my all time favorite superhero films.

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Two thousands Unbreakable that M night Shyamalan did and think

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about this. What we learn in Split is that Kevin

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as a child was abused by his mother and that

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his father died.

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In a train wreck.

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Correct.

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Now, Dave, let's go down the rabbit hole a little

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bit here, let's do. Let's go back to Unbreakable where

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Bruce Willis is discovering his power at the stadium. That

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great moment, right, a woman brushes past him and he

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sends his child abuse like he gets that flash yep,

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and we understand this one's beating her kid, right yep.

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Now go forward to twenty nineteen's Glass, where it's confirmed

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that the train wreck Kevin's dad died in was in

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fact the one that Bruce Willis was in at the

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beginning of Unbreakable.

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Yep.

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More, during the gallery visit and Unbreakable, there's this wonderful

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moment where Elijah Price's mother is discussing the quote unquote

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the soldier villain with Bruce Willis. Her description of the

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villain is a perfect match for the beast. Which is

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this this twenty fourth persona that James mcave always playing right, correct,

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Dave M. Knight is quietly building a shared universe, right,

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under our noses the entire time.

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This is way before Marvel was doing anything. Yeah, it

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blows my mind when you think.

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Back to what he was was he was doing like

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he it was just it's brilliant.

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It's so brilliant.

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Well, what's brilliant about this too, is the fact that

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we had no clue this was happening. Okay, And I

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remember you, you and I could not, for some reason

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work it out where we could go see this movie together.

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I remember, and I know you went to see it

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and then you got back and you could not tell

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me anything about it. But you were pleading with me,

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go see this movie before it is ruined for you.

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And I got lucky I didn't get it ruined.

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I remember there's you know, you always you always talk

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to your friends.

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You always tell your buddies go see it. You got

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to check it out. I was begging you, I know

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you were.

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I was absolutely begging you to go see Split.

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And I remember I still remember this, Dave.

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You were like, I'm gonna get to it, you know,

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because you were you were a little cold.

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On him night at that point.

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If I recall, I was.

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You know, you're still a fan, but you got a

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little cold.

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I was just bursting to tell you about the big

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I wanted to talk about the big reveal because I

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it blew my mind.

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We're going to get to that.

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I want.

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I want to talk about it later.

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But yeah, I was I just could not wait to

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talk about this with you, of all people, because I knew,

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remember you loved Unbreakable as much as I did.

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Well, you were bursting at the seams to tell you.

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I could just see it when you were trying to

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go see this movie.

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Please just call off, call off work. I'll buy your ticket.

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Just just go, man.

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Just fucking go.

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But I'm glad you didn't get room for me because

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when that does happened again, we'll talk about it later.

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It was just mind blowing.

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Yeah, So listen. Shamalan known for his twists. M h,

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I'm gonna through Shamalan twist that you're right now. At

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the end of the episode or near the end of

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the episode, we always talk about, you know, we mentioned

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a few things about the director and talk about the phomography.

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Shyamalan twist. I'm going into his background right now. I'm

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gonna tell you a couple of things about him.

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Night, all right, let's do it all right.

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His middle name night completely made up?

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Is it?

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He made it up in college?

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I wanted to find out some more, but there's you know,

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my my, my internet sleuthing did not come up with

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anything other than the fact that it is not a

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real name.

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He just created it.

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It's a cold it's a cold name.

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It is, Yeah, David Knight burns.

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It sounds cool, right, I've got a rink it does?

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It does.

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Let's talk about what he didn't do, or I should say,

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chose not to do.

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Dave.

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He was asked and turned down the chance to direct

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not one, but three different Harry Potter movies. They offered

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him The Sorcerer's Stone. And keep in mind this was

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based off of Steven Spielberg's recommendation.

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Wow, I mean back then, m Knight.

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You know he's you know, this is around the time

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that Unbreakable was happening, right, correct, when when Warner Brothers says, hey,

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we want you to do this, this big uh what's.

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Gonna be a big franchise film?

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And uh, oh, by the way, Steven Spielberg wants you

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to do it, and you say.

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No, that's bold.

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I don't know if I could tell Spielberg.

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No, I'm not telling Spielberg, but he M Knight said,

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or I'm happy he did, because he did, in fact

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say no because he wanted to finish the post production

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on Unbreakable and given their timeline, he knew that wasn't

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going to be possible, so he turned it down. But

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he also yeah, he also turned down Prisoner of Oscarbon

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and Goblet of Fire, okay, just to just to work

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on stuff that he wanted to work on.

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I mean again, Wow, I can see it is a

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while factor there, for sure, because we know how big

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and incredible the Harry Potter films are and were. But

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M knight has given us something that somebody else had

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created and it was a terrible movie. And I'm sure

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we'll talk about that. We'll get to that. Yeah, and

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all this other stuff that is good is his original stuff,

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with an exception right here and there. But so I

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kind of see where he's coming from. It seems like

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he's more of I want to direct and write my

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own stuff instead of what somebody else has written and created.

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So I kind of side with him on this, to

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be honest with you.

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Well, it's clearly the case because he has also famously

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turned down offers to direct versions of Spider Man, Batman

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and Superman. He's because he was focused on his own

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superhero project. That being the East Rail one seventy seven

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trilogy is what he calls And I never knew that

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before before now, but that's kind of what he refers to,

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you know, when you're talking Unbreakable, Split and Glass. Yeah,

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he calls it the East Rail one seventy seven trilogy.

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But you know the train that starts the whole the

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whole story in emotional makes sense.

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I like that.

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I think you're gonna like this, you know.

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I love on a film at forty five when you

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and Scott do let's quote this and you come up

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with a great quote. Talking about his influences, M Knight

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had this to say at fourteen, I was at the

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airport dropping off my grandmother. I went into the bookstore

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and picked up Spike Lee's book Gotta Have It, documenting

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his early filmmaking experiences. If I hadn't picked up that book,

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I don't know if I would have been a filmmaker.

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Lee was from the East Coast and had no family

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in the business. He just found the way to make

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movies and somehow it demystified it for me. Perhaps that

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was his intention, and I was like, I'm gonna do

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this for real at ten.

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That was it.

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There was no way of talking me out of anything.

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I love the fact that at fourteen he's picking up

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a Spike Lee book about his filmmaking experiences. So I

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guess we know we we owe a big thing. I mean,

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we've we've covered Spike Lee.

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A couple of times on a film buy. We love

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his work.

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But thank you Spike Lee for for inspiring m Night Shyamalan.

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I wish I was that strong and daring at fourteen

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years old.

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So that absolutely absolutely what's talk about this cast and crew.

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Let's start with Anya Taylor Joy.

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She's playing Casey Casey Cook, one of those alliterative names

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like most superheroes. You know, Peter Parker, Yeah, read Richards

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Buncky Barnes, Lois Lane, Jeff Johnson.

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So she makes her feature film debut the year before,

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in twenty fifteen's The Witch.

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I haven't seen that weird?

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I've heard good things about it, but it is creepy.

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It's entertaining, And it's just one of those movies that

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it bothered me so much. Really, Yeah, but you recommend it, yeah,

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at least once.

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First off, I got Yeah, I'm getting ready. I'm gearing

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up for scary movie season. I'm gonna put on my list.

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I think she's one of.

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The most talented actresses to come along in the last

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ten years.

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Well, she proves herself in this movie brilliantly with her performance.

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Oh my gosh, numerous times in this movie you just

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watch her and just amaze on the talent that she

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puts in front of the camera. But yeah, I mean

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she's in furios She is furious. Yeah, and she's incredible.

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I personally love her in Last Night and soho I

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covered that Yeah, I covered that one with Dayton Johnson

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on the docum based seventy seven podcasts.

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And like you said, nowadays she answers to the name Furiosa.

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this film, this is again, this is twenty sixteen. It's

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a year after her feature film debut yeah, I think

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this role, her role as Casey Cook is some of

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her best work.

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Agreed, Yeah, oh yeah, they're hands down, Jeff. Just just

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the opening man of when she's in the car and

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Dennis gets in the car with her and she doesn't

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recognize it at first. She reaches over to grab her

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seat belt, and then when she goes to pull it

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over and she slow starts to look to see who's

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in the driver's seat. That and just her stare on

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how frightened she looks.

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Without a word, she's froze, like, you know, like you're

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watching that moment and think about this, the abduction that

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happens right there in broad daylight. He takes down four people.

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They're getting in the car. They're in their own world,

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takes out. Dad, sits in the car, knocks out the

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two girls with the the gas spray or whatever that is.

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And you're sitting there screaming at the screen like get

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out of the car, get out of the car.

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But in reality someone like that, they are frozen, Oh yeah,

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with fear.

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she does such a great job conveying that.

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Yep, I don't wanna.

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I know we're I know we're got to move on

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to to a couple other characters in this but before

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we do, you know, like I said, last ten years,

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she has just done incredible work. Think listen to this man.

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You know we're because we're talking about Split. In twenty sixteen,

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she follows us up a year later with Thoroughbreds in

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twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen, she's in Glass, you know,

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the follow up to this film. Yep, she does the

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New Mutants, and twenty twenty she's done Last Night and Soho.

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In twenty twenty one, she was on Peaky Blinders for

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a little while. Don't know if you watch that show,

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but it's a great show. I would strongly recommend that one.

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because in twenty twenty two, she's got the Menu, She's

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got Amsterdam. Twenty twenty three, she's Princess Peach in the

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Super Mario Brothers movie, which you and I saw and loved.

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And this year already she's she's in Dune Part two

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and she's Furiosa a mad Max saga.

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The woman is on fire as far as I'm concerned.

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And she's heading to an Academy Award, there's no doubt

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in my mind.

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Yes, get her. Hollywood needs to get her the right

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project so we can get we.

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Can get her up on the on that stage to

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accept that award.

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I would love to see that. Yep, me too.

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James McAvoy as Kevin Wendell Crumb and other twenty three

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other alternate personalities, Jeff, I got to tell you something, So,

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James McAvoy's always been a really talented actor, but he

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blows it out of the water in this film.

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And there are scenes in this film where he just

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changes personalities on a dime, man, And that has got

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to be difficult as an actor to be being one

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person then all of a sudden shifting immediately to another person,

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in making sure it is shown in your facial expressions,

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your body language, everything. But man, he did it so

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well with frightening.

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This I've said, I've been saying this for years, Dave,

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and you know because we've had this, we've had this conversation.

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This is one of the greatest performances you can see

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from an actor working today.

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And it angers me, It bothers me.

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Dude, Like, look, okay, can we just take a minute

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and talk about the twenty seventeen Academy Awards. Sure, all right,

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Casey Affleck won Best Actor from Manchester by the Sea.

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That is a very compelling film. It's a very it's

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a heartbreaking film. It's a it's amazing, it's amazing film.

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And I'm not taking anything over anything away from what

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Casey Afflick does in that movie.

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All right.

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Other nominees for Best Actor Andrew Garfield and Hacksaw Ridge,

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Ryan Gosling for La La Land, Vigo Mortensen for Captain Fantastic,

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and Denzel Washington for Fences. How does James McAvoy get

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snubbed so egregiously?

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I agree he should at least had a nomination for

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this movie, at least a nomination. Yeah.

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I mean, Denzel's fantastic and everything and Fences his he

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was amazing in Fences, and and Casey Affleck was kind

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of being Casey.

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He's playing Casey Affleck. Yeah, but James.

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McAvoy is playing what, like we're talking like maybe eight

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people on screen, but we don't get.

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All of them.

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Yeah, we don't get all of them.

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And I would say about eight, Yeah, I mean, we

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got We've got the We got Barry, who's like the designer,

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the fashion designer. He's always smiling, he's he kind of

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controls the lights, as they say, right, Dennis is the enforcer,

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very o c D. He's the strength of the team, right,

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not the team, but you get what I'm saying, Patricia,

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very gentle, very soothing, very motherly, very motherly, but also

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in control, correct and incredibly terrifying when he is walking

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around in that turtleneck and skirt and necklace.

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And I'll make you a sandwich like ough.

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You got Hedwig, who is like the the nine year old,

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very playful, obviously childlike, et cetera. And then you got

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you know, you got the Beast, who we keep hearing

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about throughout the film. You know about his arrival. So

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I want to I want to put you in an alternate

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universe here. This film was almost made with Joaquin Phoenix.

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Yeah, I saw that, and I think Joaquin Phoenix could

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have pulled it off, to be honest with you, because

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Joaquin is incredible. I mean, look what he has done

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with a Joker, and I know we're gonna get see

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a Joker too this fall. And he's a great actor.

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It might have looked differently. I don't know, because James

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McAvoy did such an incredible job, but I think Jaquin

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Phoenix could have pulled it off.

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To I think the only place that Phoenix comes up short.

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I think he could have done all of the alternate personalities.

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But I can't buy Joaquin as the Beast, like a

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physical physicality of that. And hats off to m Night

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because McAvoy, you know, throughout the throughout the film, no

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matter which personnelity he's playing, he looks like he's in

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fantastic shape. Yeah, but when he becomes the Beast, it it's.

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Like a whole other level.

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Even there's that great moment where where Dennis is telling

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the doctor about the Beast and you know he he

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has the thing. He has the comment, oh he's much

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bigger than me, and I'm and I'm the biggest.

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You know, it's scary how they how he describes him.

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But when you see the transformation, and I know some

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of it we got we gotta go with some some

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effects work, you know, like his eyes, you know, the

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black pupils and the enlarged pupils and a little bit

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of the vascularity in his arms and chest, but.

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Still he is huge.

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He just looks jacked so amazingly enough. I'm sure you

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saw this because uh, because we're con men, right.

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Uh.

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McAvoy bumps into Shyamalan at Comic Con right after he

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finished work on X Men Apocalypse, so he's still bald

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because he was playing Professor X.

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Shamala took one look at him and said, that's the Beast.

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Yeah, do you do You.

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Normally see Charles Xavier and go, yep, that's that's my

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scary bad guy.

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No, you don't, no man. But apparently in.

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Yeah, a couple other things, And this is a callback

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to our David Leech episode where we covered Atomic Blonde.

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A few months ago. John Wright and I were discussing

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macavoy's character wearing wearing a cast over a movie because

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he famously broke his hand doing pickup shots for this

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film while the Toomic Blonde was on a filming hiatus.

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So turns out he was He was just kind of

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amping himself up because the Beast was supposed to.

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Come in charging.

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He was punching what he thought was a fake a

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fake wall turned out to be made of metal.

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It wasn't so fake, not so fake.

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He breaks, he breaks his hand, shoots the scene.

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Anyway, it looked mildly, you know it, mildly in shock,

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in immense pain.

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But his performance is all the better for it. I guess.

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It amazes me that some of these actors just go

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on with the performance. They don't even miss a beat.

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It kind of reminds me of Leonardo with Django, Remember

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with the cut his hand, he just kept going and

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that was just real blood. But I'm gonna how these

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actress can do that. But yes, they had so much

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to mention to it.

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Let me let mean we talkt we mentioned comic Con.

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I got a nerd out here real quick because I

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don't I don't think. I don't know if you know

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this one, Dave, I might, I might get you on

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this one. So the thing about this, McAvoy played Professor

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X in the uh the later trilogy. Right in the

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X Men comics, Charles Xavier had a son named David

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who became a mutant called Legion. And he was called

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Legion because he suffered from a disassociative identity disorder.

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Oh much like Kevin Wendall Crumb.

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How about that? Interesting? Wow, that's a deep cut, Jeff,

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thank you.

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I thought you'd appreciate that. I thought, I thought, you know,

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if Scott and Wayn are listening to.

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This or they'll be proud, but they will be.

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Betty Buckley as doctor Karen Fletcher fantastic. That's amazing performance, right, amazing, Yes,

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long successful career in TV and film she worked. She

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worked with Shyamalan in The Happening, where she played like

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the crazy old Lady Yep. Probably most famous for her

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role as Mss Collins, the gym teacher from Carrie. Quick

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Thought here, Dave, if you've got a if youve got

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00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:16.920
a a mentor type, a teacher, a doctor who's trying

482
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:21.759
to help a troubled individual who's gonna end up just

483
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:26.160
wrecking havoc on society, do you just as Betty Buckley

484
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.519
the first person on the call sheet like she couldn't help.

485
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:31.519
She tried to help carry, couldn't help carry. She tried

486
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:35.400
to help Kevin Wendell Crumb. That did not well, you know,

487
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:36.880
go good.

488
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:38.839
Yeah, she didn't go over too well for her.

489
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:40.960
She's she's fantastic.

490
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.680
I love her performance in this as Kevin's doctor, she's

491
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:47.839
treating him for d I D which you know I

492
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:52.559
mentioned was a disassociative identity disorder YEP, previously known as

493
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:58.440
multiple personality disorder. It's characterized by the presence of two

494
00:24:58.680 --> 00:24:59.880
distinct personalities.

495
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:00.480
Mm hmm.

496
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:06.200
The disorder causes significant memory gaps and effects one to

497
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:07.680
one and a half percent.

498
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:08.200
Of the population.

499
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:14.960
Yeah, it's common cause steps from childhood trauma and brain injury,

500
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.519
and alternate personalities are usually triggered by overwhelming emotions and

501
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:20.039
stressful situations.

502
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.920
Interesting, and you know this might be jumping a little

503
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:25.240
bit of talk about a little bit about the production

504
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:26.720
of the film, but you know where he got his

505
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:27.759
inspiration for this.

506
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.920
I do, and I want to talk about that here.

507
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:33.160
Let's I'll tell you what.

508
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.920
Let's take a Let's take a break, okay, and when

509
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.519
we get back, we'll dig into the film's background.

510
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:43.640
And I would love to uh to discuss the the

511
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.079
uh the inspiration behind Split.

512
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.759
Delga, welcome back.

513
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:58.079
We are talking about m Night Shyamalan's amazing thriller Split Dave.

514
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:02.319
As we mentioned, uh Night calls this his East Rail

515
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.279
one seventy seven trilogy. This is this is the second

516
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:10.119
film in the trilogy. You know, Unbreakable starts at Glass

517
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:14.960
finishes it. I want to talk about what inspired this film.

518
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.799
Can you give me, give me give the listeners a

519
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:19.640
little information here?

520
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.200
Yeah? Absolutely so. Apparently this was inspired from the real

521
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:27.119
life of multiple personality Billy Milligan, who was charged with

522
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:31.519
three rapes and was the first person diagnosed with a

523
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.240
multiple personality disorder to use an insanity defense by reason

524
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:40.279
of that disorder. At first you got acquitted by this,

525
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:46.880
but Mulligan head twenty four personalities consisting of ten desirables.

526
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.559
There is a really good documentary, Jeff. I don't know if

527
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:55.079
you've seen it. It's on Netflix about Billy Milligan and oh, okay,

528
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:58.279
what makes us even creepier? Jeff, Yeah, this all takes

529
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:03.559
place in Ohio. No, yes, sir, And if I remember correctly,

530
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:05.559
it's been a few years since I watched his documentary.

531
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:10.240
I'm billy. Guess where he was held at, Jeff, you

532
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.119
got okay, I don't know the Lebanon prison. No, that's

533
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.039
up the street from me, man, Yes, sir, he was

534
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.079
held there for a little while, Yes, sir, while he

535
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.000
was on trial. He got off on a few things,

536
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.599
like they put him in like a and I'm just

537
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.079
going off my memory right now. Because it's been a

538
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.519
few years, but I know they like when he was

539
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.880
going through court, they put him in a not in

540
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:36.039
a prison, but like in a psych word kind of

541
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.240
but it really didn't have a lot of security, so

542
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.839
he kind of could kind of move around on his

543
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.359
own with them now. And then finally he got put

544
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:45.920
into prison for a little bit, which is when he

545
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:50.160
went to Lebanon. Definitely check out the Netflix documentary on

546
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.559
him and it will give you a backstory of where

547
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.039
the inspiration of split came.

548
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.079
Okay, definitely going to check that out.

549
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.880
And you said twenty four personalities, ten were deemed desirable.

550
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.960
I guess that's like correct, Like people like Hedwig probably.

551
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.799
Are the ten that really come out, I guess is

552
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:07.519
what it.

553
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.880
Is, Okay, Yeah, and then thirteen not so good, right?

554
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.680
And then the undesirables Yeah wow, which I guess would

555
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:21.759
be what Kevin Dennis Dennis's I don't know. Yeah, Kevin

556
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.400
was a was an undesirable, wasn't me?

557
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.759
Well, Kevin Kevin is the real is the.

558
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.720
Real person, So I think Dennis is the one who

559
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.559
would be an undesirable I would guess right. The Beast

560
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.839
definitely is an undesirable.

561
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.400
The beast is Yeah, that's that.

562
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.480
Just it blows my mind that this is a real

563
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:44.200
person and this happened, you know, down the street. But

564
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.720
at least, at least he didn't have like a beast character,

565
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:50.960
a beast persona I would hope, Jeff, No, no, no, no,

566
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:52.279
he did have a beast.

567
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.920
He did his his twenty fourth was what he called

568
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.920
the Teacher, and it was a fusion of all the

569
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.039
other personalities.

570
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.440
That is so creepy, it is.

571
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.880
Yeah, the temail all right, yeah, yeah, I got I

572
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:09.680
got the shivers there.

573
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.519
Yeah, let's move on. We locked the door here and

574
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.799
then we'll move on.

575
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:21.480
One thing I wasn't aware of until recently watching this,

576
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.359
this was a collaborative effort between M Night and.

577
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.000
Jason Blum from Blumhouse.

578
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.119
Yeah, it sure is.

579
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.799
And this is not this is their second one because

580
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.240
in twenty fifteen they did The Visit, which awesome M

581
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.759
Night Shyamalan movie. Go back and listen to our first

582
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.400
M Night episode where Brad and I discussed what I

583
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.680
would say is maybe one of his most underrated films,

584
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:44.240
the Visit.

585
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.720
But just I mean, think about this.

586
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.799
It's one of these amazing moments where the right director

587
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.839
and the right producer team up.

588
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.519
Yeah, because we love blum Oh, absolutely we do. He's

589
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.079
giving us a lot of good products.

590
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.279
I'll tell you who's got to love m night is

591
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:09.279
the uh, the studios? Because Splits budget was only nine

592
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.559
million dollars. That's a small budget, man, that's an indie

593
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.720
by today's standards. It is, especially when you consider how

594
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.799
great this film looks and who's in it and what

595
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.680
we get. Yep, Unbreakable's budget was seventy five million fifteen

596
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:24.359
years before.

597
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.000
My question, why the hell is Disney and.

598
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.880
Warner Brothers spending three hundred million dollars to make films today?

599
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.079
That is a very good question, Jeff, And I wish

600
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.039
nobody could answer that for me. There's a lot of

601
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:37.440
wasted money out there, man.

602
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.440
I wish man. Uh.

603
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:45.759
Fun fact, Split was Blumhouse's highest grossing film until twenty

604
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.240
twenty three, and he guess on what beat it in

605
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:49.880
twenty three?

606
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.759
Yep, you're gonna smile here. It's gonna make you happy.

607
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:54.599
What is it?

608
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.880
Five nights at Freddy's?

609
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.359
All right, Yeah, you're right, that would make me suck.

610
00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:58.960
That was a good movie.

611
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.039
Yeah, yeah, you're well, you're Buddy's starring in it too.

612
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.559
That's right, Matthew Lillard.

613
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.079
Man, Matthew Lillard, Dave, I want to talk about uh,

614
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.000
I want to talk about some.

615
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:07.519
Of these scenes.

616
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.759
Oh yes, please, let's break break some of these down, man.

617
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.319
You know, because you know, I think there's one, you know,

618
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.880
if if I, if you had me pick a pivotal moment,

619
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.319
We're gonna get to it. But uh, I'll tell you

620
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.920
what that stands out to me is Kevin's first meeting

621
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.480
with Casey where he kind of wakes up.

622
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.720
He's like, hey, I was sitting on a on a bus.

623
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:29.799
What happened?

624
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.720
You know? Oh?

625
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.759
Yeah, what's going on? Who are you? What happened?

626
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.920
And then all the altar you mentioned his he he

627
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.160
has to move from one altar to the next in

628
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.720
the same moment, all the altars fighting for the light,

629
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.680
trying to take control, to take control of the situation

630
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:48.880
and put Kevin.

631
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:49.519
Back to sleep.

632
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:54.680
Yeah, And back to Anya Taylor Joy her face, she

633
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:58.359
is just stupefied at what's happening because at this up

634
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.720
till now, you know, these girls have been trapped, you know,

635
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.200
locked up in a room. And sometimes Hedwig comes in,

636
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.279
sometimes Dennis comes in. Sometimes sometimes it's Patricia, but this

637
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.440
is her moment where she sees all of them kind

638
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:19.079
of kind of fighting for position here. It's awesome to

639
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.839
watch what James mckinboy does, but it's also awesome to

640
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.279
watch her reaction to what he's doing.

641
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:25.440
I love that moment.

642
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.839
A lot of my moments. There's a few moments, but

643
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.079
most of mine were with doctor Karen Fletcher.

644
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:32.680
I'll talk about this.

645
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.079
There are so many good ones. The one that really

646
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.599
stands out to me is when she keeps probing him,

647
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.000
your Dennis, your dentists, and keps going and going, and

648
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.319
she when she's realizing she's pressing his buttons and getting

649
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.119
the reaction a little bit from what not getting the

650
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.119
reaction she wanted, she kind of backed off a little bit.

651
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.039
You know, you know, I'm just trying to do my job.

652
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.240
You know, I'm here to care about you, you know,

653
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.400
those kind of things. But when she finally does bring

654
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.880
Dennis out, that and how he just turned and oh it,

655
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.759
Oh Dennis, it's so nice to finally meet you. And

656
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.920
that whole sequence right there, man, was just so incredibly

657
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.279
well done between both of them.

658
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.480
I am very afraid for Betty Buckley.

659
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.720
Yeah, you know her character, Doctor Fletcher.

660
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.519
I'm very afraid for her when he does. When Dennis

661
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.359
takes the light yep or not, I should say, you know,

662
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.279
we it was Dennis all long. Dennis is Dennis is

663
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.599
playing uh you know, let me.

664
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.680
Let me let me say that again, because we know Dennis.

665
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.319
It's Dennis all along, and he's trying to pass himself

666
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:44.400
off as Barry. But the moment Barry's smile fades and

667
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:49.680
Dennis does that that that raised eyebrow yep, that's like

668
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.759
his expression and kind of sits up a little bit more.

669
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.799
I'm just I'm terrified for for doctor Fletcher. And I

670
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.960
feel like she's like, and she's got to be terrified,

671
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.640
and what are you gonna doing that situation?

672
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.279
You can't get up and run, you can't. So she's

673
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.319
got to be like, hey, I'm finally glad to meet you.

674
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:06.519
We can help Kevin together.

675
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.079
Yeah, he doesn't.

676
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.519
The only the only, the only defense she has is

677
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:12.159
to play offense exactly.

678
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.880
Yeah, And that's exactly what she was doing just to

679
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.960
get out of that situation. But then she puts herself

680
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.639
into a more dangerous situation by going to visit him

681
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.360
where he's staying and then that that whole sequence when

682
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.760
she realizes what's going on and she goes, can I

683
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.480
go to the bathroom, and just the whole sequence just

684
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:34.519
starts falling apart on her, and I'm like, would you

685
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.159
just stop? Go go the other?

686
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.840
This is you know, listen all horror films, thrillers, they

687
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.119
always have that one moment.

688
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.079
Where you're like, why did you do that?

689
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:45.960
Yeah?

690
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.039
Please, you know you're smarter than that.

691
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.760
I think the only fix here because I get it,

692
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:56.000
like she she sees like dozens of emails saying we

693
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.519
need you right now, and you know, so she's concerned,

694
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.360
but I don't know she knows what she's dealing with.

695
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.239
So why would she take a cab at night to

696
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:11.280
an abandoned zoo? You know, like you're you're going into

697
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.280
the the din.

698
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.360
Of the killer. Like you can't do that, you know

699
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.199
you can't.

700
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:18.719
The only thing that would have made it more I

701
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:23.440
feel like what would have made more sense is, you know,

702
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.360
if if he had done a phone call like please

703
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:26.719
help me.

704
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.599
I'm you know, like maybe maybe Kevin.

705
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.239
Is wanting to tie a b loose sends yeah, and

706
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.800
with the beast arriving, we don't need the doctor anymore.

707
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.320
So I would have liked that better. But again we're.

708
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.320
Nitpicking, Yeah we are. And another thing that I really

709
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:43.679
want to point out to Jeff. You know how much

710
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:47.599
I love camera work. Yes, m Night is brilliant with

711
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:48.800
the camera work.

712
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:50.480
One of the masters man he is.

713
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.440
And there is a scene in Unbreakable and again I

714
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.239
don't know why it didn't dawn on me what was

715
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.960
happening here and Unbreakable when David is on the train

716
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.880
and remember the kid I guess was playing making faces

717
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.480
or whatever it was, and the camera kept slowly going

718
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.360
back and forth, back and forth. M Knight loves that

719
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.119
shot and he did it here there in the beginning

720
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.760
when they got into the car and then the father

721
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:21.639
was still in the back putting stuff into the trunk.

722
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.239
You really don't see what's going on, but you go

723
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.679
from like the rear view mirror back to her, back

724
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.800
to Casey and then the camera would move back and forth,

725
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.079
back and forth slowly. I actually love those camera movements

726
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:34.559
by m. Night.

727
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.920
I love his use of reflections, Yes he does. He's

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00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.119
big on that too. This movie's got some great moments.

729
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:44.320
You know, all all of his movies do.

730
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.760
I'll tell you what before I before it lose my

731
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.480
train of thought. Can we talk about something that doesn't

732
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:51.400
necessarily work for me?

733
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:52.719
Yeah? What is it?

734
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:53.360
All?

735
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:53.559
Right?

736
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:53.960
Again?

737
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.239
I love this film, but if I had to go back,

738
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:03.119
I would I would maybe do something different. The flashback

739
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.079
sequences with Casey when she's a like a five year

740
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.239
old girl with her father on the hunting trip with

741
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:09.239
her father and uncle.

742
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.880
Yeah, it just doesn't work for me.

743
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.960
It takes me away from the story, honestly.

744
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.519
So I struggle with this, Jeff. I know what you're

745
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.440
talking about here. When I look at this. The way

746
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:26.239
he wrote this, he was trying to show two characters

747
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:30.039
in two different lights. You're seeing Dennis or Kevins, whoever

748
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.400
you want to call him, who is struggling with his

749
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.920
inner demons. You get Casey who is also struggling with

750
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.679
her enter demons, just in a different way. Yeah, And

751
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:46.639
you're bringing both of those characters together. And that is

752
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.039
the reason why he let her go at the end,

753
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:54.039
is because he saw her with all where she had

754
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.119
cut herself and all of that. So you had to

755
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.519
have had that to get to that point for the

756
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.239
Beast to let her go. You know, some of the

757
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.639
some of the coolest dialogue. There's a lot of good

758
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.679
dialogue in Oh Gosh, Yes, but the.

759
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:07.760
Dialogue written by M.

760
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.719
Knight, by the way, yes, written by M. Knight. But

761
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.559
the pieces that he gave there at the end, the

762
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.559
beast was giving some of this really good dialogue to her.

763
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.760
When he looked at her and saw those scars, you know,

764
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.679
he goes, you are different from the rest. Your heart

765
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:25.360
is pure.

766
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:26.559
Rejoice.

767
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.599
The broken are the more evolved, and then he walks away,

768
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.079
letting her live. Yeah, so I think Jeff, you had

769
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:37.199
to have those flashbacks.

770
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:37.719
I agree with you.

771
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.639
I didn't like them at first, but when you really

772
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.280
dive into the story, you dive into the script and

773
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.079
seeing how those two characters need that, I think it works.

774
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.400
You know what you're you're you're kind of convincing me.

775
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.199
I'm kind I'm going back and forth on it now

776
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.719
because part of me just wants a little bit more

777
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.639
abrupt exposition. Like, clearly she has got issues. She she's

778
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.079
you know, she's kind of keeps herself, keeps herself, she's quiet,

779
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.519
we get that, right, and there's something there's something busted

780
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.760
about her her background, right, so you know, just let

781
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.840
me give me, give me you know, give me the news, right,

782
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.199
But that's at the same time, now that you got

783
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.320
me thinking about it, that first moment where we're on

784
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.000
the hunting trip, I'm like, what the hell is going

785
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.000
on here? And then you're like, okay, this is leading

786
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.920
to something. I just feel like maybe the payoff wasn't there.

787
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.159
Yeah, because I can see that what you're talking about.

788
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.599
Sure, you know, because you know and we know what's happening.

789
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.800
The uncle is abusing her.

790
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.159
But at the same time, I'm asking myself, where the

791
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.880
hell is the father during the hunting trip, right, you

792
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:53.440
you know, because then flash flash forward in the flashbacks

793
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.320
and the father's had a heart attack and now she's

794
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.559
going to be living with the uncle who's going to

795
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.679
take care of her. But even at the end of

796
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.760
the movie, you know, the police officers like, hey, your

797
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.199
uncle's here, are you ready to go? So is it

798
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.239
that we're just saying that, you know, Casey Cook is

799
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:14.199
she's living you know, she's living in a prison, regardless

800
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.199
of being in a literal prison. When the when the beast,

801
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.239
when when when Dennis knabs her? Maybe is that what

802
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:22.280
is that what we're going for?

803
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.320
Maybe that's what he's going for. Absolutely.

804
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.920
Okay, I'm not sure if I like it still, but

805
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.280
just I think maybe maybe it could have it could have.

806
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:32.000
Been done a little bit better.

807
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:32.960
Yeah, I don't know.

808
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:33.519
I don't know.

809
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.920
Dave we like I said, we u, I said, I

810
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:41.119
said earlier we covered M Night Shyamalan. Uh. I want

811
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.920
to say that was July twenty like mid July in

812
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.079
twenty twenty one, So listeners, yeah, it's been a while.

813
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.800
We were due for another M Night I think. Yeah, listeners,

814
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.800
go back July twenty twenty one. Check check out our

815
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.960
our episode on on the visit. That movie is terror

816
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.960
fine and you'll never see the ending coming, like like

817
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.320
with most of the Night Shamlan movies. Ye, well, let

818
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:11.000
me just switch gears here and talk about one of

819
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:14.800
the greatest scenes in this film, one of the one

820
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.800
of the scenes that has never I don't know how

821
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.039
if I've ever been this happy sitting in a theater

822
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.039
watching what I'm gonna call the reveal, the David.

823
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.639
Dunn revealed the David Yeah, wow, Okay, it's because you

824
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.880
don't see it coming. You do not see this. If

825
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.559
you say you saw this coming.

826
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.079
You're lying. Nobody saw this coming.

827
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.320
Nobody saw this coming, you know, and you get little

828
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:39.760
hints of it. When you look back to the movie,

829
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.920
you realize, oh man, he threw some hints at us.

830
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.440
We just didn't pay major hints.

831
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.880
But yes, you just you know, m night.

832
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.760
He puts everything in front of you, but tells you

833
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:55.360
to look look over there the whole Yeah, you're that, Yeah,

834
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.840
he the whole time you're watching this movie, you're just like,

835
00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.679
I don't want to miss it. I don't want to

836
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.440
miss this. I'm looking for the I'm looking for the twist,

837
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.239
I'm looking for the reveal. Meanwhile, he's it's just right

838
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:05.480
there in front of your face the whole time.

839
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.000
Yeah. The So you talk about the reflections piece that

840
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.159
he puts in his movies a lot. You get that

841
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.639
ending with Kevin and the Beast Dennis, all of them

842
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.119
looking in the mirror in the reflection. The camera's going

843
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.599
back and forth again another night shot, and then he's

844
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.960
just changing personalities, and then we go to that revealing

845
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:26.599
scene of them in the restaurant or that little little

846
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:27.639
restaurant or whatever it is.

847
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.000
Well, well even even just like pump the brakes a

848
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.679
little bit there, Dave, because when the Beast is admiring

849
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.280
himself in that in that mirror and that Rundown apartment.

850
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.960
I immediately the dog gears, you know, went up, and

851
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.639
I got chills because I'm like, wait a.

852
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.599
Minute, is that that sounds like James Newton Howard.

853
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.440
That's that's Unbreakable music.

854
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.519
That's the Unbreakable theme. And I remember sitting there going, well,

855
00:42:56.599 --> 00:43:00.280
it is an awesome theme, and I guess it's ok

856
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:02.760
it's it's okay to reuse it because it was an

857
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.599
unbreaka when it was awesome, but you know whatever. But

858
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.719
now we're in the diner and the you know, people

859
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.800
are just sitting there, they're watching the TV. You know,

860
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.199
the story is breaking, you know, these the girl has

861
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.400
been found and this this Kevin Wendell Crumb is on

862
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.800
the loose blah blah blah, and they're building up this

863
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.639
this this super villain type persona right, yep. And then

864
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.000
one of the patrons at the diners is like, wasn't

865
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.039
there remember remember a couple of years ago, a long

866
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:37.159
time ago, they had some weird name for some other guy,

867
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.199
you know, wheelchair.

868
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.440
He was like a terrorist, what'd they call him?

869
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.440
And at this point the music is really building yep,

870
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.239
and there's Bruce willis sitting there, Glass Glass.

871
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:51.960
They called him mister Glass.

872
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:56.239
And then Dave, if you didn't need any more of

873
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.440
a reveal, you see the patch on his shirt says

874
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.119
done yep, and then the camera just, ever so subtly

875
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.119
fades to the coat rack.

876
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.280
Green, his green unser.

877
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.800
Is hanging there, and now James Newton Howard's track Visions

878
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.880
from Unbreakable is exploding through the cinema and I lost

879
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:21.840
my mind.

880
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.519
I I freak.

881
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.159
I freaked out, and I was just like, holy shit,

882
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.239
this awesome movie is actually quietly been a sequel to

883
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.239
Unbreakable the entire time.

884
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.119
It's a villain story that is in the world of

885
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.199
David Dunn, and God.

886
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.960
We get he gives in two thousand, he gives us

887
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.039
what arguably I will say is one of the best

888
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:53.440
superhero origin movies ever. And then twist, now he's going

889
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.719
to give you an origin story all about the super soldier.

890
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.159
That we learned about and Unbreakable the villain. I couldn't

891
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:02.639
believe it. I just could not believe.

892
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.440
I know, it was a great reveal that caught you

893
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.199
by surprise, a great feeling when it when it rushed

894
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.639
over you. Man, it really was, and again I'm glad

895
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:12.639
it wasn't ruined for me.

896
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.239
No. Well, and and hats off to him because the

897
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.880
whole time they're screening this movie the test audiences, that

898
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.559
scene what that scene didn't exist, that would have been

899
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.760
ruined for Yeah, I would have been. He purposely did

900
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.559
not show it. Bruce Willis purposely chose not to be

901
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.559
credited at all. And listen, say what you will about Disney.

902
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.159
You know, I know we've been we've been griping about

903
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.199
him a lot lately with some of the stuff they're doing.

904
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.800
But hats off to them because m Knight personally asked

905
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.360
them permission this is this was Yeah, he David Dunn

906
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.199
that you know, Disney owned that that that character. Yep,

907
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.559
they owned the James Howard James Howard music and they

908
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.000
were like, yeah, sure, go for it.

909
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.159
Which Jeff James Howard didn't do the music for this movie.

910
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.360
That's surprises me. I wish he invited here.

911
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:02.760
To tell us.

912
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:06.719
This was with Dylan Thornton who did this music. Don't

913
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.559
get me wrong, I thought the music was phenomenal in

914
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.400
this Yeah it is. When you got those those beat

915
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.000
of those drums, when the tension was getting really building

916
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.480
and building, and I thought that was all really infestive.

917
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.000
But why didn't he use James Newton Howard Because he

918
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.119
loves James Newton Howard.

919
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.440
I have to Okay, So I'm just speculating maybe James

920
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:28.400
Newton Howard was working on another film. Could be and

921
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.960
without looking, you know, and without looking, yeah, he's he's

922
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.239
a he's an incredible composer. Yeah, without looking looking at

923
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.639
looking at his filmography, you know, who knows, maybe maybe.

924
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:41.239
Maybe he was busy doing something.

925
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:41.960
It could be.

926
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:46.199
Yeah, yeah, all right, I need you to get busy because,

927
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:49.800
like I said, we had talked about m Night Shyamalan

928
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.679
back in back in July of twenty twenty one, you know.

929
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:54.320
Been a while.

930
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:57.440
We were due for another episode h Brad and I

931
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:02.760
covered the visit, which I strongly recommend to any horror fan,

932
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.199
thriller fan, M Night Shyamalan fan if you haven't seen it. Yep,

933
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.920
we covered his filmography, you know, we talked about you know,

934
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:14.360
well up until twenty twenty one, obviously, But Dave, I

935
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.039
know you've got opinions if we could do, you know,

936
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.400
and I know I know we want to start wrapping

937
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.679
up here. But if you could give me a quick

938
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.159
the day burns see it or skip it. Okay, we'll

939
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.119
go through his filmography real quick, because I I think,

940
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:31.960
I think I know where you're gonna You're gonna end

941
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:33.079
up with a lot of these, but I want to

942
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.960
I want to see how how close I get? All Right,

943
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:41.920
So let's talk about M Knight's filmography and again, uh listeners,

944
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.000
check out check out our other M night episode if

945
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.360
you want to hear a little bit more details in

946
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.599
a bigger breakdown. But Dave, I I only asked because

947
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.880
we got to start somewhere. Nineteen ninety nine, The sixth

948
00:47:53.960 --> 00:48:02.119
Sense see It, see It? Two thousand Unbreakable see it question? Yeah,

949
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.280
two thousand and two Signs.

950
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:08.039
See it, And that's his first chance working with Joaquin.

951
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.440
Maybe that's where the whole it could be forgot about

952
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.400
seed was born, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, two thousand.

953
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:14.239
And four The Village.

954
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.639
I'm torn on this one, Jeff, but I'm gonna say

955
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:16.960
see it.

956
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.559
Oh okay, because he's back with the Joaquin again. He

957
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.960
is like Joaquin's kind of becoming like a go to guy.

958
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.519
This movie we just advertised wrong, which is what throws

959
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.880
me off of it all the time. But see it.

960
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:29.000
I agree with you.

961
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.000
Two thousand and six, Lady in the Water, definitely see it. Okay,

962
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:38.199
two thousand and eight the happening, skip it. You gotta

963
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:39.119
skip this one, right.

964
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.599
You do? Not a fair Can we just this in

965
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:42.519
the theater together?

966
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.840
Yeah? Can we? Let's let's give it. Let's give it

967
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:45.719
a little bit of credit though.

968
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:50.519
Maybe one of the greatest trailers for a film ever.

969
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.760
Oh yeah, absolutely, we were.

970
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.280
We were beating down the theater door to get in

971
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.880
to watch this movie just based on the trailer and

972
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.000
the big reveal were I felt like Ralphie, you know,

973
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:05.559
with my Dakota ring, be.

974
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:07.559
Sure to drink your levelteen.

975
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:10.920
That's exactly what it was.

976
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.559
Plants are killing us. It's son of a bitch. You know.

977
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.639
The happening was not happening. No, no, In fact, Dave

978
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.480
twenty ten The Last.

979
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.000
Airbender, absolutely skip it.

980
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.880
Look help me out here because I skipped it just

981
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.519
based on the on the trailer and this based off

982
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.119
of like a anime.

983
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.079
It's based off of Nickelodeon's Avatar The Last Airbender, and

984
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.559
it was atrocious. I did not like this movie. I

985
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.119
love the animated cartoon that they did, which was like

986
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.519
five seasons long. Now Netflix has got a new one

987
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.519
now that they just started, came out back in the

988
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.239
spring of this year, which is fantastic, But this version

989
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.159
not at all all.

990
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.280
Right, we're in a we're in a bad spot with

991
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.719
him night at this point are Yes, We've had a

992
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:02.199
couple of misses. Thirty Team, he does After Earth with

993
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:04.800
Will Smith and yeah.

994
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:05.639
Not a fan.

995
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.800
I was not a fan at all. No, But twenty

996
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.880
fifteen the visit See It, He's back.

997
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:13.760
He's back.

998
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.559
And in twenty sixteen we've been talking about split. He's

999
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:18.559
back in a big way.

1000
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.800
Oh yeah, definitely see it.

1001
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:25.079
And the title wave continues to rise because twenty nineteen

1002
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.920
he gives us the third film in the East Rail

1003
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:32.400
one seventy seven trilogy, Glass See It. What we could

1004
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.679
not believe is happening. We got, we got David Dunn getools.

1005
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.719
Yeah, we got trilogy. We get it becomes a trilogy.

1006
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.320
They're all locked up in what basically is Arkham Asylum.

1007
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.840
Yep, and they're gonna it's where it's the big, the

1008
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.400
big pay per view, uh battle right, yep, No holds barred.

1009
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:53.119
No holds barred.

1010
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.199
This movie is awesome and I'm so happy that we

1011
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.119
it called like. I was just so happy that unbreakable

1012
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:03.400
because as perfect as a film is, unbreakable is that

1013
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:05.800
you know, when your expectations are high, it's like, well,

1014
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:06.880
where can this story go?

1015
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:07.679
Split?

1016
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.239
We weren't expecting split, so we had no choice but

1017
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.960
to be super excited and elevated. But he announced Glass.

1018
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.440
We knew Glass was coming. Yeah, so the expectations are

1019
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.440
very high and I feel like it delivered.

1020
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:23.639
I was a big fan.

1021
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:24.239
Yep.

1022
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.079
Twenty twenty one. Now our last time we talked about

1023
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:29.960
M and Night. We were talking about a film that

1024
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.039
he was about to release called Old.

1025
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:34.239
Did you see Old?

1026
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:38.800
I did? I've seen everything M Night's done. I see

1027
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:40.000
this film.

1028
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:41.440
You gotta see this one, right, you do.

1029
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.679
Absolutely, It's got again, It's got some great camera work done,

1030
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.400
and it's got a really unique idea behind it. So

1031
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:49.320
definitely check this one out.

1032
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.199
A vacationing family discovers that the secluded beach where they're

1033
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.360
relaxing for a few hours is somehow causing them to age, rapidly,

1034
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.679
reducing their entire lives into a single day.

1035
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.000
Incredibly creepy premise.

1036
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:03.840
It is.

1037
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:11.840
Gale Garcia Bar Now awesome in it rufus Sewell, Tamasa

1038
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:14.239
Mackenzie from Last Night and so ho she's in that.

1039
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.199
I love this. I loved Old. I thought I thought

1040
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:17.679
it was awesome.

1041
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:23.679
You know, definitely definitely see Old twenty twenty three. I'm

1042
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:28.039
gonna say he does maybe a top three m Night.

1043
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.599
Shyamalan film Knock at the Cabin.

1044
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.159
Yeah, definitely see this one too, Dave.

1045
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.039
I went in. I went into this one.

1046
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:41.280
My guard was up right, because the trailer is spectacular,

1047
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.719
you know, and we're talking about the one with Batista right.

1048
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:45.480
You know.

1049
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.159
While vacationing, a girl and her parents are taken hostage

1050
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.320
by arms strangers who demand that the family make a

1051
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:54.920
choice to avert the apocalypse. Yeah, these strangers show up

1052
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:56.880
the door with their weapons. Hey, well, you know, you

1053
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:58.760
guys gotta choose. We're gonna kill someone, but you guys

1054
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.679
gotta make the choice, and if you don't, we the

1055
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:03.599
apocalypse happens. And the whole time you're like, are these

1056
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:04.239
people crazy?

1057
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:05.079
Right?

1058
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.760
Could it happen? You're kind of torn? But the movie

1059
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:11.719
man does it deliver.

1060
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.800
I love Knock at the Cabin. You're saying see this.

1061
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.280
One, yes, absolutely, yep?

1062
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:19.320
All right, Well and that takes us. Uh we got

1063
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:19.760
about wrap.

1064
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:21.719
We gotta wrap this up because uh yeah, we gotta

1065
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.320
go see Trap Trap were we got a little bit

1066
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.880
of time before Trap starts. So I'm happy to hear

1067
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:32.039
your thoughts on m Night, Dave, But uh, I want

1068
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:33.719
to talk about what's next real quick. I want to

1069
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:37.519
talk about what's next for the director. So in developments,

1070
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.760
he's got he's got a project in development, and I

1071
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:40.719
don't know how to feel about this.

1072
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.840
Man. What is a It's called labor of Love.

1073
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:44.840
Okay.

1074
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:49.199
The original screenplay that he did was written in nineteen

1075
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:53.840
ninety two and sold to Fox in nineteen ninety three.

1076
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.280
And apparently this all started as like a Valentine for

1077
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.000
his his his then girl friend who's now his wife.

1078
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.119
And obviously I'm giving you a little development on where

1079
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:09.320
this this project's been. Harrison Ford was initially supposed to

1080
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:11.920
play the lead and it was gonna be a Sidney

1081
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:15.719
Pollock film. M he wasn't night was it was Remember

1082
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.679
like he used to just write like Stuart Little, so

1083
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.880
most stuff he didn't direct. This was gonna be one

1084
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.719
that he just wrote and wasn't gonna direct. But uh,

1085
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.000
you know it kind of stalled out because uh, Forrest

1086
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.199
Gump comes out, and I guess there's a very similar

1087
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.159
plot device with a you know, with what's going on

1088
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:36.519
because it seems like the guy, you know, the main

1089
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.119
character loses his wife.

1090
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:40.159
And so he start starts running.

1091
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.559
Okay, kind of does like the you know, I just

1092
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.800
kept running, you know. So they kind of they kind of,

1093
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.639
you know, trashed it and it's been sitting in development.

1094
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.880
Hell for a long time apparently a long time.

1095
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.639
But apparently he's he's trying to get it where he's

1096
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:56.639
trying to get it revived again.

1097
00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:59.159
So well, I mean, he's hitting a lot of home

1098
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.519
runs right now, Jeff, So he is let's see what

1099
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:02.199
he's going to offer.

1100
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:06.599
Yeah, well see this, Like I said, uh, I've got

1101
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.079
a very nice collector's edition Blu ray of it.

1102
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:11.239
Dave, where'd you watch this on?

1103
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.440
When I own a copy of it? You own a

1104
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:14.079
copy of it too?

1105
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.039
But I did For the listeners that don't have a

1106
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:19.280
copy of it. It is streaming right now on Hulu

1107
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.679
and free V with ads. But man, the Blue I

1108
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:25.960
don't have to tell you. The Blu rays loaded with

1109
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.400
some great behind the scenes stuff. Yep, alternate endings and

1110
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.840
some deleted scenes which lead the scenes were great and

1111
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:33.719
that's by the way.

1112
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.519
Yeah, I gotta tell you so you ever get a

1113
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:41.039
rainy day, Breakout, Unbreakable, break Out, Split and Breakout Glass

1114
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:42.599
and watch your trilogy.

1115
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.599
The East Rail one seventy seven trilogy.

1116
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:45.440
I'm gonna do that soon.

1117
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:46.760
Yeah.

1118
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.480
Well, listeners, what do you think of Split? You can

1119
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:53.400
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1120
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:53.480
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1121
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:56.639
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1122
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1124
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.039
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1125
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.960
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1126
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.760
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film by swag. On Friday, our limited series nineteen ninety

1128
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.320
six returns with that long awaited trip to San Francisco.

1129
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.320
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1130
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:27.480
continues his adjunct co hosting duties When we talk about

1131
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:31.840
Cage Connery, Rockets.

1132
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.280
And the rock Oh Yeah.

1133
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:37.719
And next time on a Film by Amber Lewis discusses

1134
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:42.519
the underrated, lesser known Elizabeth Salander movie. When we talk

1135
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:48.360
about a film by Feddei Alvarez, his twenty eighteen cybercrime

1136
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:52.920
action adventure The Girl and the Spider's Web Dave. That

1137
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.079
reminds me Eddi's got that new alien Romulus coming out,

1138
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:56.920
you know, we gotta.

1139
00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:58.400
We're definitely checking that one out.

1140
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.199
We buy the tickets. We're outside the theater. We might

1141
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:03.280
as well buy the tickets for that.

1142
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.280
While we're here, so might as well, all right.

1143
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.960
And as always, to those of you listening, liking, sharing,

1144
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:15.280
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1145
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.559
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1146
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:18.480
Thanks.

1147
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.719
When I play that back, it might sound so fucking

1148
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.039
stupid that I just cut it and do like a

1149
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.800
This episode sponsored by black Key Coffee.

1150
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:37.400
I don't know. We'll see