July 29, 2024

Patreon Sneak Peek - 1986: The Delta Force

Patreon Sneak Peek - 1986: The Delta Force
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a month. The nineteen eighty five Chuck Norris classic Invasion

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USA was released today on four K Blu ray. I've

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got my copy right here. I love Chuck Norris, I

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love the Canon films, I love talking movies with my

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best friend and co creator of this podcast, Brad Kozo.

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And while everyone is currently enjoying some time away on vacation,

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I thought this would be a great opportunity to give

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our listeners an opportunity to hear what they're missing by

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not being a part of our Patreon. What I Got

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for You Today is one of our beloved nineteen eighty

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six episodes. This was the first nineteen eighty six movie

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that we did on our Patreon. We're about halfway through

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the twenty that we promised to knock out over there,

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so I hope you enjoy it. Please come back tomorrow

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for our Star Trek themed series, Phasers Set to stun. Wayne,

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David and Scott are back on the bridge talking all

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things Trek, and next Tuesday, the Voice of Reason, Amber

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Lewis is back from vacation. We're gonna talk about Robert

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Altman's the Player. We'll see you then. Hello everybody, and

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welcome back to nineteen eighty six. It was the limited

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series from a film by podcast And if you're listening

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to this, first and foremost, we will say thank you

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because this is exclusive for the Patreon. I am Jeff Johnson,

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joined by Brad Kozo.

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That's right.

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Well, listen, there are troubles in the skies with a

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may I can travelways flight two eight to two. So

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we're calling the Delta Force. This is a high jack out.

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When there is no hope, no chance, no possibility of escape.

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The Delta Force gets the word fits a gulf. Take

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them down.

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They're not after adventure or glory.

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They're fighting to save American lives. You take one of us,

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you better take us off. Chuck Norris Lee Marvin.

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The Delta Force rated R, starts Friday, February fourteenth.

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At theaters everywhere. Brad, Let's talk first impression. When I

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say the title The Delta Force.

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I mean movies for guys who like movies, you know. Yeah,

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I mean i'd say this is more widespread Chuck Norris.

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It's you know a little bit bigger. But you know,

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I remember bringing that, you know, ca and in big

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giant box home, you know, when you rented it. At

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some places you get to keep the box too, of

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the Delta Force with you know, Lee Marvin and Chuck

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Norris right on the cover, you know, oozy in hand.

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I gotta think you like me. Were very fortunate that

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our dad's enjoyed Chuck Norris movies. Oh yeah, you know,

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he had some amazing ones before in nineteen eighty six.

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So yeah, bringing this home from the video store, The

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Delta Force, this movie was awesome, I mean absolutely awesome.

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The thing is, it's a fun movie, and it's actually

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when you the story and the plot itself is a

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very very good story and plot, you know, as far

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as because even it's hard to kind of put this

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movie as a Chuck Norris movie because there's a lot

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going on that isn't just Chuck Norris based. And so

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I liked, you know, so that this time around, I

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haven't seen this movie in years, that it felt more

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like an ensemble movie.

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Yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right, And I'm gonna jump

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into the PSA here because you know, you said some

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things that kind of bring it right to the front

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line here. It is a great story, but that's that's

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because it's based off of two events that that happened.

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And pretty accurately, too.

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Pretty accurately. So today's PSA, Brad brought to you. This

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is based loosely off of the June fourteenth, nineteen eighty

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five hijacking of TWA Flight eight four seven, and in

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addition to that, the movie was originally to be produced

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with the cooperation of Delta Force's real life founder and

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original commanding officer, Colonel Charles Beckwith. The producers wanted to

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tell the story of Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt

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to rescue the American hostages from Iran in nineteen seventy nine,

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but they wanted to change the story so that the

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Delta Force completed the mission successfully. This did not bode

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well with Colonel Beckwith he left the project in disgust,

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So a couple rewrites later and we get this incredible movie. Now, Brad,

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I gotta believe that there's probably a few people that

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have if they've seen some of Chuck Norris's awesome stuff,

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they might have missed the Delta Force. So what I'm

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going to ask you to do. Put down your UZI

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for just one second and pick up the VHS. Flip

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it over, give us a reading. What is the Delta

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Force all about?

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Swift and silent assault is their trade. Total mastery of command,

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of warfare is their skill. They are America's elite strike team.

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They are the Delta Force and they are led by

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Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin into the ultimate battle for freedom.

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In this explosive action epic, a fanatic band of ruthless

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terrorists hijacks a commercial jetliner full of American passengers landing

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in a war torn Beirut. The hijackers in prison their

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brutalized hostages and two heavily defended strongholds while the world

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waits at their mercy. But for the Delta Force, waiting

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time is over. Armed with the latest technology and combat weaponry,

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the small anti terrorist squad strikes with awesome force of

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a full scale army for Americas being held hostage by

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a legion of political criminals, and that means full scale

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war with an all star cast, the Delta Force offers

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high impact. Nice, I guess so, I mean, yeah, I

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guess so, you know, I would I would say that's accurate,

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would you, Yeah, But it sounds more like it's you know,

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it's the movie is actually a little bit more serious,

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you know, than just being kind of a eighties action film.

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You know, the first half this movie is scary.

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It is it. You know, when when you're a kid

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watching it like we were when we were like ten

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or eleven, I don't think the fear registered because it

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was just an action movie, right and we were waiting

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for Chuck Norris to just start kicking people in the face.

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But watching this as an adult, this is an absolutely

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terrifying movie, especially when you consider it's based off of

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real life events, right.

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Yeah, I mean anything that's happened in the last you know,

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thirty years and stuff. It's like, oh, you know, that's

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that's creepy.

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You know.

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We talked a little bit about that when we did

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twelve monkeys, But I mean, yeah, the story itself. I

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wanted to ask you, do you think this film could

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have worked without Chuck Norris.

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In nineteen eighty six?

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In nineteen eighty six but a different star.

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Well, let's be honest, this is an all star cast.

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I know we're talking about a Cannon movie. A goal

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on globis production, Globus.

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But while you're out there that's easy to pronounce Menehem

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Golin and you're on globis the Cannon by.

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Yeah, the Cannon guys. I think I think if you

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took if you took this, if you took this story,

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Cannon couldn't have done it with a with a different actor.

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And if you take it away from Cannon to get

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a different actor, it's not an action film at all.

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I think at that point it becomes a dramatic thriller

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at ghost. So you did you have thoughts on who

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you'd see in nineteen eighty six plane?

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I mean, just I mean trying to think of who

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was big at that time. I mean, the only people

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that it probably could have worked for was maybe Stallone

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or Schwarzenegger, you know, Van dam maybe, But you know

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that's kind of it, you know, it was just kind

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of these guys, you know, and those were you of

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your choices of action stars those days.

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Yeah, I just I don't think it would have worked.

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I really don't. Uh, you know, you you know we've

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we've already talked about Chuck Norris. You know I mentioned

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the All Star cast. Think about this, Brad, because we've

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got some some Oscar winners in this cast. Yeah, okay,

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I mean working with Chuck Norris, you got Lee Marvin,

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Martin Balsom, you got Robert Forster, George Kennedy, Lady Kazan,

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you got Bo Benderson, you got you got Robert Vaughan.

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And obviously we can't forget, uh, the incredible Shelley Winters,

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who who takes it to eleven in this.

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Every every film that I've seen of hers, every film

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that Shelley Winters has been in, Posidon Adventure, Lolita, this,

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I mean, every time I've seen her, she's always just

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you know, full on eleven.

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And I won't get away from the cast without without

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uh giving some love to to Steve James, who he

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was a he was the that guy. He was the

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that guy for eighties action movies because he was always

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like the partner or the right hand man of the hero. Yeah,

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you know, he's.

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Always every time he goes around the corner, or they

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showed him every time he knew he was on camera.

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He would always have a great face of got the

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ouzy up in the air, and he's very very intense looking,

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you know. Yeah, Delta two set, you know, he's very

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out there.

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Yeah. Movie starts, Brad. It opens in nineteen eighty. Uh,

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there's a failed hostage rescue taking place in Tehran. I

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think this is where they kind of based the uh,

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the operation, the Operation Eagle Claw. Yeah. No, but Chuck,

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who is legendary obviously.

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Yeah, and mustache and short hair.

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Yeah. Then they're like, hey, we're you know, plane's about

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to blow up. Hey, where's Pete. He's stuck. We couldn't

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get to him. Don't worry. Like three guys couldn't get

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to this guy. So Chuck, Chuck Norris is gonna go in.

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He deadlifts a jeep yes to get to the guy.

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And all the while Lee Marvin's like, we can't wait

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for him, and they're like, but he's right there, you know, yeah,

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Lee Marvin. This and then this is sadly, this is

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Lee Marvin's last movie. Yeah, yeah, uh but you wouldn't.

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You couldn't tell. I mean, he's playing the leader of

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the Delta Force, and you know he is a commanding

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presence uh pun intended in this film.

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And he's not sitting around and like just standing the

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whole movie. You know, he's out there with them.

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Well, you know one of the covers, he actually has

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a bazuka one of the which he never used. He

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never uses it, but just seeing Lee Marvin and Chuck

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Norris next to each other with the.

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Bazooka each was, as I recall, Chuck Norris is the

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only one that uses a bazukah and Lee Marvin yells

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at him for doing He's like, put that thing down.

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Come on, yeah, you know, cut down her, get down here.

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You mentioned Lee Marvin's not sitting around. I will point

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out there's one moment where he is sitting around and

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full credit to leave Marvin because he is in a

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bar drinking some whiskey, flirting with the bartender who's got

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to be like, what thirty years younger than him at least. Yeah,

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and he's pulling it off. You know, he's like, you

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got great legs. She's like, yeah, you can't see him.

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He's like, I'm just being a nice Yeah, he's putting

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it out there. I love it, Brad. One of your

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favorite performances in this film. I know because we've talked

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about this movie for decades. Let's talk about Robert Forrester

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playing the head hijacker Abdula Refi.

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He is the leader of the New World Revolution.

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He should be.

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I didn't know this was Robert Forrester until years later.

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Well, you know, he should be the leader of fashion

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Week because when he walks in on the scene at

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the airport, he's got the white suit with the white

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shoes that he clearly got from cousin Eddie.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he is rocking this ensemble like nobody's business.

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But to be serious, you said it. I just never

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knew that this was Robert Forster growing up. I didn't

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know it until I was an adult because he plays

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this character so well, and this is this isn't something

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you're going to see Hollywood do nowadays, where you know

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a white a white actor is gonna play someone you know,

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Middle Eastern, right. I just assumed he was Middle Eastern,

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you know, until I think the first time I took

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notice of him as Robert Forster might have been Jackie Brown.

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Maybe maybe I was like, I was like, wait, that's

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that's a dual refy. Yes, And you find out like, yeah,

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he actually showed up this movie. This whole thing is

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shot on location in Israel. Turns out he shows up

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several weeks early to work with a dialect coach just

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so he can get the the voice.

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Right, you're good, I mean it came up. And man,

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he likes to smack people around with that gun. I'll

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tell you one time he smacks one of those people

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with the gun, it looks like it hurts. I mean,

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the sound effect is just perfect.

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If you've ever held a forty five or a night

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millimeter in your hand and you know the weight of it,

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and you think about someone backhanding you with that, you're

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not getting back up right away. So and he does

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it quite a bit. I think, Yeah, I absolutely love him. Uh,

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let's talk about some of these hostages. Brad Martin Martin

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Balsom playing benjamincaplan. He's uh, he's married to me at

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your service, married to the the very high strung erratic

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Shelley Winters.

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Yes, who.

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You know? I mean, right, at the get go the

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hijackers is like, don't provoke us, and she is going

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out of her way. Yes, I won't do it. I

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won't do it. You want to go die someplace house?

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Yes? Yeah, I'm just like it's mouth and off, like

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right away, right away.

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She's mouth and off. It's like someone someone put a

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lid on Shelley Winters before she gets us all killed.

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I absolutely love George Kennedy in this as he is.

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Isn't he so amazing in this? Yeah?

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He's just yeah, I just love him. And can we

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just talk about for a second the hot sister, The

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hot sister, the hot nun by Kim Delaney. That isn't

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the hottest nun I've ever seen seen.

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I can't believe you're saying hot none, But I mean,

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to be fair, Kim Delaney is a very very attractive actress,

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very beautiful woman. And yeah, like and she had to

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be what like twenty in this movie nineteen. Yeah, you know,

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you're like, you're you're gonna be a nun? Come on,

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you know, come on, you're gonna be probably not after this,

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you know, I think this.

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Is like I'm not wasting my time with that.

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Yeah. Well, here's the other thing too, because Kim Delaney

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does play a nun. Think about this plane for a second.

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It's filled with nuns, small children, a pregnant woman, like

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every possible dangerous scenario you can have on a plane.

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Everyone decided to get on this plane, you know.

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Yeah, and for a few of them, Mustafa has got

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a little bit of a softy for you. Yeah, for

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the pregnant lady, you're feel good. Yeah, I love that

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when helps out. But then he just turns around and

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it's just like a I'm like, you know what, maybe

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I like Mustafa And then he goes crazy and then

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he goes back and he's like, you know, I have

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a daughter, do you understand. Yeah, I'm like, I was like,

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I don't know what to think about. Mustafa is bad.

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Well, well he's a very bad guy. He hijacks a plane,

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you know. But but think about this for a second

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because again, clearly he's playing you know, because like they

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never really land on who Mustafa and Abdul where they

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come from? Right, They're just they're Middle Eastern terrorists. This

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is a this is a cliche of cannon films where

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they're just they're Middle Eastern terrorists.

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Right, they're delivering it. They're delivering them. They want to

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deliver the hostages to the Ayatola.

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Yeah, but at any rate, you know they're they're they're

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evil people. They're bad guys. But to your to your credit,

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Mustafa that guy, I don't think he gets any credit

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in this movie for his performance because he has the

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scariest stare I've ever seen any actor have. Like he

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like the crazy eye thing that he does. He's terrifying looking.

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But then he has these moments where he is he

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shows a soft side, like he helps the pregnant woman

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get a little more comfortable with some pillows and cushions. Uh,

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the scene where the little girl comes running back for

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a cabbage patch kid. Yeah, and he has that moment

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with her and that that that quick exchange for a

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for like a split second, You're like, this guy he

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wasn't always a bad guy, you know. Yeah, he he

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was a loving father, you know. And he said he

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had a daughter, so you have to assume, you know,

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she probably was was murdered, you know, killed in a

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in an attack and a bombing something. So yeah, you're right,

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like as an adult, like you kind of you're on

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the fence. Like, is he really that bad of a guy?

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He is? I mean, I'm gonna go ahead, Yeah, he's

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a bad guy. Uh, you know, especially when he's kicking

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the shit out of a one of the Navy hospitals, Davy.

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That's right, that that did happen again. You said this

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is a scary film, and yeah, I think it's it's

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easy for us to just say, oh, it's a cannon movie,

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so guns and explosions and one liners, but they're using real,

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you know, real events to tell this story, and uh,

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that makes it frightening. That makes it sad as far

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as I'm concerned, you know, because we're gonna have fun

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with this. You know, there's there's some stuff I'm like

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what what are we what? What are you doing? But

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then other other times you're like, uh man, And it's

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almost like Alan Silvestri's score tells you when it's okay

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too to have a little bit of levity, to feel like, yeah,

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go America.

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Got two songs?

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Yes, well the one the one piece of music he does,

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especially during the selection process when the yeah, the yeah

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that that that that sad music he plays it. They

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use it when the the flight attendant ingrid she has

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to find out who the Jewish passengers are. Very sad moment,

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you know, it's and they kind of revisit it later

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when one of the one of the members of the

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Delta Force gets killed. But then that music brad the

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main theme which is played.

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From the beginning of the film to the end of

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the film. So if you don't like this theme, do.

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Not watch this movie.

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But if you can handle the theme, it's a lot.

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How it stuck in my head now, I mean, how.

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Do you not like this theme? This is the most

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kick ass America I'm saying. If you don't, yeah, no,

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that's that's all said.

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I think it's It just makes me smile because that's

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kind of the real cannon even when I call it

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part of the movie or the maybe the last half

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of it, when it actually the action picks up. But

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you know, they don't use Usually those cannon films don't

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have a lot of bad stuff with the the stuff

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they do with like inger and and stuff like that.

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This is a little bit longer film than most of

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those films. You know, they're straight up hour and a

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half action films. You know, this is over two hours

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because they put a lot of story into it and

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and for some reason, it's five point fifty am a lot.

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Do you notice that? Well, wherever they are, it's five

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point fifty am.

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I get that, you know, the plane is over somewhere

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over over in Europe, somewhere, you know, in that air.

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And I also get that we're jumping back to America.

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So there's a time difference. But I want to point

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out my favorite time difference since you brought it up. Yeah,

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two two forty five a m. In the morning. Okay,

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Chuck Norris is at his ranch because he retired after

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the failed mission in nineteen eighty. He retires, you know.

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He tells Lee Marvin on the plane.

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He's like, find the hell when they listen, Neck, We

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told him it's too dangerous to launch.

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This operation at night. They thought their planning was better.

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I spent five years in Vietnam watching them doing the planning,

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and that's to die.

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Well, I'm resigning when I get back.

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Okay, it's two forty five in the morning. He's in

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he's in it. He's at his ranch. You see horse

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stalls in the background. He's got the TV on talking

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about the hostage crisis. He's eating scrambled eggs, and drinking.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask you, is that scrambled eggs

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and a Budweiser.

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Yeah. If that's not the most Chuck Norris meal I've

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ever seen? Could can you not sleep at two forty

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five in the morning. You're just like, I'm gonna have

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some scrambled eggs and Budweiser. That's great. I love it.

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I immediately was, Uh. When I was watching this recently,

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I was I was a little bummed that it was

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it was the afternoon and I had missed breakfast because

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I was like, I want to I want to make

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some scrabbled eggs and crack you open a cold one. Yes,

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this is how Chuck would do it, right. Oh, man, Brad,

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let's talk about Delta Force a little bit load nop,

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you know, because Lee Marvin's like, you know, they get

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he gets the call. Robert Vaughan is some kind of

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Pentagon official. He calls Lee Marvin says, Delta Force. It's

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a go. They're gearing up right, and they're are they're load,

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they're they're they're riding these these cool ass uh black

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motorcycles with the blue headlights into the carrier. Brad, how

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bad did you want one of those motorcycles when we

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were little.

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I wanted one of those, plus the kind of the

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ATV vehicle.

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You know.

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Yeah, this movie was very Gi Joe. I feel related.

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This movie is very Gi Joe.

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This movie is what Gi Joe could have been and

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should have been. They should have looked at Delta Force

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and said, okay, just give them some cool costumes. And

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this is the template that bike though, Brad. Fun fact,

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that is the the nineteen eighty five Suzuki SP six

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hundred motorcycle. It was designed by Suzuki specifically for this film,

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and after modifying it and adding the weaponry, Suzuki America

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gave the bike to Gold Globus production in Israel prior

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to filming. So if you're in the market, Brad, hit

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your nears Suzuki dealer, just ask them for the Delta

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Force bike.

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I guess two missiles in the front, two in the

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pipe in the back.

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You're probably going to pay a lot more to get that.

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Those options, those add ons that I don't think that

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comes stock.

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So yeah, well I don't want it if it doesn't

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come with that, well.

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I was just fine with the blue headlights. But you know,

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you raise a good point. The machine guns on the front,

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the missiles, and that the back missiles. Gotta love it.

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Something else about that that uh, that scene, you know

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they're ready, everyone's ready to go, depending on. Guys are

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looking at Lee Marvin like what's the hold up? And

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he was like, I'll give him five more minutes? What

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And then Chuck Norris does the most Chuck Norrise thing.

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He just drives in too into the hangar in his

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his Ford Bronco. Yeah, in his his denim shirt, his jeans.

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You know, he's grown out, he's grown out.

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The hair he's got, he's got the Chuck no nurse mullet.

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The beard is back.

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You know, I'm gonna Pete. Yeah, I'm gonna throw another

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fun thing. He is back with Pete because he does

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about to carry Pete's ass time at this time. Right.

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Another fun thing though that that that uh, that letter

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that Lee Marvin hands him. Says, I thought I was

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gonna have to use this, and Chuck's like, what is this?

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Lee Marvin says, it's a presidential decree ordering you back

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to service. And you know, I thought, there's no possible

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way that's a real thing. So Brad I had to

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I had to. I had to research it. Okay. I

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actually talked with a friend of mine, retired marine, and

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I asked him straight up. I was like, is this

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is it possible that, uh, you know, this could ever happen?

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And this is what he responded with. He said, that

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would be pretty rare. But short answer is yes. Uh.

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The reasons though, are would be pretty desperate. Either the

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country was at war and we were we ran out

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of whatever rank that that person had, or they had

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to face charges in a court martial. It's it's an

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extremely rare occurrence, obviously, but there is such thing. You

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know the president. You know, if you're Brad, if you're

468
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.359
in the Delta Force and you retire, you know the

469
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.880
president Lee Marvin Can asked the resident to call you

470
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:01.640
back and you have to go.

471
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.880
So well, I think the president should have a piece

472
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.839
of paper ordering Chuck Norris too active duty if an

473
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.799
all out war breaks out, because I want to be

474
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:16.839
on Chuck Norris's side, I absolutely agree with you. There

475
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.400
should be one already just printed out, printed out and

476
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:23.000
just ready for his signature, which he'll just crumble up

477
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.079
and throw in his bronco.

478
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:28.000
Yeah, because he Chuck Chuck would show up anyways. Oh yeah,

479
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.440
he'd show up, you know, and the only reason that

480
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:31.799
he's gonna be late is because he was eating his

481
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.880
scrambled eggs and drinking his Budweiser. That's how I look

482
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.559
at it. Let's go back to Brad. Let's talk another

483
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.599
you know, we've been talking about how the movie is scary.

484
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:48.119
You mentioned the the the Navy hostage who you know,

485
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.480
gets beaten, based off a real thing. I gotta tell you,

486
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.880
watching this movie recently, the scene where you know, they

487
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.759
beat on him, and then the scene where they shoot

488
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.079
him and he falls out of the plane, that is

489
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:03.279
that's hard to watch.

490
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.319
It is, especially for this type of film. You know,

491
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.400
it's a little I don't know if it's too close

492
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.759
to home. But even at the time, even at the time,

493
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.480
I remember being like, ah, you know, that was kind

494
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.720
of creepy, you know, so it seemed very realistic, you know. Yeah,

495
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.960
and as they just basically had to stand there and watch,

496
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.599
they couldn't do anything. They're just like, we just got

497
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:27.119
to watch this.

498
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.640
Yeah, I mean that that's that's what actually happened in

499
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.680
real life. Yeah. I think it was very gutsy for

500
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:39.599
for for Cannon to even have that, you know, that scene,

501
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.079
I don't know. I think maybe maybe it crosses the line, honestly,

502
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.599
you know, but but it does. It does ground the

503
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:50.200
film in reality, though, Yeah, it does. Yeah for a

504
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:56.559
little while. Well what doesn't ground the film in reality?

505
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:01.519
Let's talk so moving moving forward. You know, I've failed

506
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.960
rescue attempt, the hostages get moved off the plane. Now

507
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.920
we're in Beirute. So now the Delta forest gets to

508
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.640
you know, it's like a land attack. Let's just jump

509
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.880
to the final fight between Chuck Norris and Robert Forster

510
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:22.640
in that house, not one but two window crashes. Chuck

511
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.440
crashes through the window twice to get the Forester.

512
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.400
Yeah, it is the end of missing action too almost

513
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:37.880
to it. Yeah, he goes in, reats him up, and

514
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.519
it eventually wins by blowing him up.

515
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:46.000
Yeah he yeah, because like you know, like as soon

516
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:50.960
as he crashes his motorcycle through the window and magically

517
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.000
has a chance to you know, keep it up right

518
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.400
hit the kickstand. I just feel bad for Robert Forster

519
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:58.880
at that point because, like, you know, he's about to

520
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.079
get the shit kicked out of him. Oh it's Chuck Norris,

521
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.759
you know, and Chuck you know that's and this is

522
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:05.680
where you've been waiting for it the whole movie. This

523
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.839
is this is a cannon move, Chuck Norris. You've been

524
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:09.359
waiting for him to kick someone in the face.

525
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.880
Yeah, I mean it hasn't happened except you know, just

526
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.359
a little bit in the movie. You know, like you

527
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.559
don't really get to see him go full Chuck until

528
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:21.680
like you know, we haven't seen any martial arts skills.

529
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.680
No, we were waiting for this moment and you know,

530
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.720
like Robert Forster doesn't have a shot, but uh, but yeah,

531
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.920
I love the fact that he he uses the windows

532
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.880
quite well in this movie to really sell the fight.

533
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.680
And then that bike, you know, like he's wait, Chuck's

534
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.160
gonna drive away, He's gonna leave him. Nope, guess what

535
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.240
the bike? Yeah, it has rockets at fire from the front,

536
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:48.000
but it also has rockets at fire.

537
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.519
From the back. You know that got a huge applause

538
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.839
when it came out.

539
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.519
How does it not? Yeah? Does it not? And then

540
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.319
Chuck is not done with his bike, like uh he

541
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:05.240
pulls some uh some early Ethan Hunt Tom Cruise style

542
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.279
stuff because the plane's taken off again. He's late, you know,

543
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.759
Colonel what about major where he's late. I gotta you know,

544
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:16.599
he had a chill, He had his.

545
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.880
Chance, right, he was busy driving in the sunset. If

546
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.200
you notice the sunrise he was. We had to get

547
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.039
a great silhouette, you know, kind of driving moment of

548
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:28.240
Oh yeah, him silhouetted under that.

549
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.759
I love. This is another chance for Steve James though,

550
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:38.119
to dramatically Colonel what's the major? You know some major? Okay,

551
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.920
we can't slow down the plane, so just throw a

552
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.640
rope out Chuck Norris, who's pretty busy at this point.

553
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:45.319
Did you know somebody wheelies? He's popping on this.

554
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.200
Bike while standing up and while is sitting here watching

555
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.319
the movie. Okay, So when they first arrived and like

556
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.400
like the final like action singings where all the team

557
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.119
lines up, I'm like, damn, man, these guys got a

558
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.160
lot of rope. Every one of them's got rope. Me

559
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.400
use that rope, you know, find we need the rope.

560
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.640
Every one of them's got rope. There should be no

561
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.559
one there going I don't have my rope. Every single

562
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:09.400
one of them had rope.

563
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.640
Yeah, Lee, Marbin's like throw a rope down to him,

564
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:13.720
like you should be falling over each other to throw

565
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.680
the rope because everyone everyone has a spool of rope

566
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.599
on him. Yeah, but still a pretty kick ass moment,

567
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.720
especially in eighty six Chucks standing up on a motorcycle

568
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.039
popping wheelies to reach the rope and then you know,

569
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.759
catches it, grabs it, gets in the plane, and the

570
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.599
plane takes off. Yeah. Pretty awesome, I think.

571
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:37.400
And then you've got both fencing as the captain of

572
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:41.440
the airplane doing another hammet. I mean that guy's lines

573
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.200
are so like, we're coming in whether you like it

574
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:45.720
or not.

575
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.200
Yeah, Like the control towers like, what are you doing?

576
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.880
You can't you can't take off? He's like, he's.

577
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:03.960
Yeah, there they're beating an American boy and they're killing him.

578
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:04.759
Yeah.

579
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:06.799
He's a very big ham in this movie.

580
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.920
I love it. I love him in this movie. Uh,

581
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.759
I'll tell you what. I also love the fact that

582
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.799
all the all the gear and equipment that the Delta

583
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.519
Force travels with, they did not forget several cases of Budweiser.

584
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:21.839
Yes, make sure you have the Budweiser for the flight.

585
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.200
Hey, the planes, planes take it off. We've rescued the hostages.

586
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:25.960
We're all going home.

587
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.160
Let's actually they're not all going home.

588
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.680
Well they're not all. You know, Pete didn't make it right.

589
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.920
Yeah, So okay, so we're gonna save Pete at the

590
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.400
very beginning of the film, Yeah, just losing him at

591
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.279
the end. He's like, I don't have to carry your

592
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.119
ass out here again. Well he had to.

593
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.960
Well he had to do it again, you know. I

594
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.839
guess that's the you know, like, hey, we you know,

595
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.759
it's it's almost like, do we get to win this time?

596
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:52.759
Because they it was a failed mission in nineteen eighty

597
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.119
now they're back in eighty six. You know you got

598
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.519
to there's gotta be a trade off. Yeah, you succeed

599
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.680
this time, but at what cost it costs you? It

600
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.839
costs Pete's life, Yeah, which is uh, you know, it

601
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.639
brings back Alan Silvestri's sad score.

602
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.960
Yeah, but before we go into the to the big

603
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.480
to the to the big finale, great score.

604
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.239
Yeah, but you know what I love, Uh, there's that

605
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.199
tight shot of like once once we realize that Pete's dead,

606
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:24.000
you know, follow Malley's doing a doing a prayer for him,

607
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.519
Chuck sits down and there's that tight shot of Chuck's

608
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.480
face and for a split second you're like, here comes

609
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.280
the very macho single tear rolling down the cheek, but it's.

610
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.400
Chuck Norris, So that's Chuck Norris doesn't cry.

611
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.000
Chuck Norris doesn't cry. Yeah, great dramatic moment for Chuck.

612
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.920
But if you're if you're expecting the tears, that you're

613
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.000
you're watching the wrong movie.

614
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:52.360
Here's the thing about Chuck Norris. There are certain types

615
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.519
of actors Schwarzenegger, Chuck Norris, where you know, John Wayne,

616
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.159
where they were playing the kind of person that we

617
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.920
want to see them play this character that they've developed,

618
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.039
and this is the same thing. You know, this is

619
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.800
the kind of film that Chuck Norris does. You know,

620
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.519
he never tried to say, oh, I don't do these

621
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.920
types of films, you know, he was like that. Charles

622
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.960
Bronson was like that for a while, Clinton Eastwood, you know,

623
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:26.000
so they developed that. So I feel this film is

624
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.639
one of the only films that isn't riding totally on him.

625
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.039
I would agree with that because because, yeah, I mean,

626
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.000
it's a Chuck Norris movie. But at the same time,

627
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.440
he is not saving the day by himself. He's not

628
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.440
known as sale handily no, you know, and he's surrounded

629
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.800
by an amazing cast, you know, the other guys that

630
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.440
make up the Delta Force, and more importantly, again it's

631
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.599
a cannon movie and the action really doesn't happen till

632
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.519
the very end. Yeah, because this is a very dramatic thriller.

633
00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:59.880
For like, what the first thirty forty minutes of this

634
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.800
or we're just with the hostages. It's terrifying then.

635
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.639
So yeah, you don't really get to take a breath

636
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:11.519
till they're doing their little training exercises. We're Americans, get down, Yeah,

637
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:13.239
we're Americans.

638
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.320
Well, before we get to our training exercises, Brad, let's

639
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.039
crack open a bud whuzzer and do the eighty six breakdown.

640
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.320
So I got something fun for you. We've always, you know,

641
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:31.840
when the series was was what's going on? We always always,

642
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.800
we always ask the question, is this the best movie

643
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.599
of nineteen eighty six? Now you and I both know

644
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.960
this isn't the best movie of nineteen eighty six. So

645
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.480
I've got something. I got something to substitute for you here, Brad.

646
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.679
All right, happen to have a list of Chuck Norris's

647
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.639
Cannon films, the Chuck nor the Chuck Norris era, the

648
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.800
Cannon era, for Chuck Norris if you will. So I'm gonna,

649
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:59.519
I'm gonna, I'm gonna run down this list here and

650
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:03.039
no buticular order, just to get you get your mind

651
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:05.119
fresh here. So we've been talking. We've been talking about

652
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.760
Delta Force. We've also got hell Bound, The hit Man, okay,

653
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.920
one of my favorites, Hero and the Terror from nineteen

654
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:18.360
eighty eight, fire Walker from the same year, nineteen eighty six,

655
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.440
which we did we did cover with Scott and Dave,

656
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.960
Delta Force two, The Colombian Connection with Billy Drago playing

657
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:34.400
the bad guy obviously, the Missing in Action Trilogy Missing

658
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.159
Action Missing Action to the beginning and then Missing in

659
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:44.639
Action Braddock, and then lastly Invasion USA. Brad, I'm gonna

660
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.440
ask you, is the Delta Force the best canon era

661
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:50.440
Chuck Norris movie?

662
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:56.280
Yes, yes, as it is a lot of those titles

663
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:00.760
that you that you named off didn't get a really

664
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.599
theatrical release. They kind of went straight to video. This

665
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.599
is one of the ones where they actually threw it

666
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.360
into theater, you know, gave him a little bit more power,

667
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:15.199
you know. Not a bad job directing by Menehem Golan, No,

668
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.679
you know he did, you know, entered the what was

669
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.079
it entered the Ninja and you know something else like

670
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.679
very similar, but yeah, you know there was some actual,

671
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.199
you know, power behind this one that with like satisfaction

672
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.360
with not just the same audience it.

673
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.239
You know, I'm surprised. You know, for for a minute,

674
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.079
I just assumed that you were gonna say, uh, missing

675
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.880
an Action to the beginning or maybe even a Vason USA,

676
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.719
because I think those two have got to be in

677
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.639
the conversation, because those those two with the Delta Force

678
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.719
are the top three for the canon era for Chuck Norris.

679
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.400
I like Missing an Action too is more of a

680
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.239
I feel a good Chuck Norris action film. This is

681
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.000
like the Chuck Norris big budget film.

682
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:07.320
Okay, Okay, I like that Brad Let's Talk prequel sequel remake. So, Brad,

683
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.199
we already know that Delta Force has spawned two sequels,

684
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:18.480
right what A lot of people don't know. Initially we

685
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:23.039
were gonna get Delta Force two starring Chuck Norris and

686
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.960
Lee Marvin, and then sadly Lee Marvin had passed away.

687
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.239
The movie kind of got bumped around. At one point

688
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.159
we had Steve James teaming up with Michael Dudikov. To

689
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.840
do Delta Force two, which you know they were having

690
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.239
such a good time on the American Ninja franchise. Yeah,

691
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.079
let's see him do Delta Force. That didn't happen. And

692
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.840
then finally the script bounces back and it becomes the

693
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.519
Columbian connection. So and then they did a Delta Force three,

694
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.239
The Killing Game, which I have to believe that went

695
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:02.119
straight to it even in it. Uh no, I don't think.

696
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.400
So I want to say, let me hold on, you

697
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:07.760
know what I'm gonna look for you here real quick.

698
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.199
Chuck Norris was replaced with Nick Cassavetti's but his brother

699
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.519
Aaron Norris was in it, So there you have it.

700
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.440
I'm sorry, Eric, No, Mike Norris is that. I don't

701
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:26.000
even know if that's any relation, but it's good.

702
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.119
Check you don't Chuck, No, Chuck, you don't get my viewing.

703
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.360
All right? So, Brad, prequel, sequel, remake? What would you

704
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do with this franchise? Remake?

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And I've got your two main stars maybe a third.

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Okay, so the correct answer is remake. And now I

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want to hear who you got in this.

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As the Lee Marvin Nick character, Jeff Bridges.

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I like it. Now, wait, hold on wait, wait one

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one second. Though. Marvin was sixty one when he did this,

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and critics were saying that he was too old to

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play a a colonel in The Delta Force, which they

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were wrong, because he's awesome. He's Lee Marvin. Yeah, so

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him Bridges pull it off at his age because he's

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like seventy. I think, sure, he's the Dudude, he's the dude. Okay,

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you sold me dude, all right, So you got the

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dude playing playing Lee Marvin's character. Okay.

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And for the Chuck Norris part, Joel Edgerton.

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Okay. Uh.

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And he re teams with director Catherine Bigelow from Zero

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zero Dark thirty and Catherine Bigelow directs The Delta Force.

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So you're going full You're going big budget Hollywood, big budget,

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take all you taking all the cheese out of it.

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You gotta be with I said when we did our

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Catherine Bigelow episode that I wanted her to do one

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more war film. It's like a trilogy with her Locker

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zero Dark thirty. This could be her her trilogy remade

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with the kind of the same story premise but not

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counting on one major start two two kind of deliver it.

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Very very interesting.

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And I think certain parts like the like the priest

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in Israel or I think that part could be maybe

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hyped up a little bit, be a little bit more

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interesting and a little bit more screen time and stuff.

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But and yeah, that's what I.

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Got for you. Any thoughts on who you would have

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as the main villain the Abdull Refine and the New

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World Revolution? Hm?

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Hm, That one would be a tricky one, it would be.

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I I know, no one comes to mind, because you

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immediately come to mind right now? All right, all right?

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What comes to mind? For the Nintendo face off? Brad?

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I've asked you this so many times. Which character from

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the movie would you invite over to play the original

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es with? And more importantly, what game.

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Father o Malley, because he's just looks like he's a

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fall he just looks like he's so much nice, so nice.

748
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That's such a good guy. Yeah, just you know, we

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played like something like, you know, like a basic Super

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Mario Brothers and maybe like a little tennis game, you know,

751
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a little uh what was the I think it was

752
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Nintendo Tennis. Yeah, just just the basis friendly game between

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me and the father, I know, and he tells me

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a little bit about uh sister ROBERTA.

755
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Oh okay, so I see what you're doing now, and

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now I understand your A. Uh, I'm I'm I'm gonna

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tell you the perfect answer if you know this is

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for Nintendo, Brad. So uh, there was a Chuck Norris

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video game for Calico Vision if you remember, it was

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like the the weird it was. It was before Nintendo

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around the same time, but it kind of got phased

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out Chuck Norris Superkicks, but that was for Clicko that

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was nice, so it doesn't count. So another I'm gonna

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I'm gonna put another one out for you. The Super

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Nintendo had a game called Operation Thunderbolt, which was based

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which was based off of this movie so much so

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that final level when you have to save the pilot,

768
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they made the pilot look like Bo Svenson, Really Svenson. Sorry, yeah,

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but that's Super Nintendo. So because we were gonna be

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strictly Nintendo here, Brad, I think the I think the

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go to answer for me is gonna be I'm calling

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up Scott McCoy aka Chuck Norris and we're gonna play

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Karate Champ.

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Yeah, Karate.

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I was just thinking he will beat me, he will

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defeat me because's Chuck Norris.

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But okay, so the movie ends that, you know, the

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Delta Force theme goes up, A giant Delta Force logo

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comes up. Yep, and you're hearing throughout the whole movie McCay,

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mccare macar, major McCoy, Captain McCoy under credits Chuck Norris,

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Scott Scott, Scott McCoy should just say McCoy. But through

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the whole movie he's being called McCoy. No one ever,

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I don't think anybody calls him Scott the entire film,

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and then it pops up when the credits Chuck Norris,

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Scott Scott. No one ever calls him Scott.

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He's McCoy. I noticed that because, like, you can't not

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notice the cool big logo of the Delta Force, the

788
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way the font is, it just looks cool. Yeah, and

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you I want it on a T shirt.

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Yeah, and it had to. We had to see one

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more time. This is a Goldham globe.

792
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Yeah, that man was gonna hold himself one more time. Yes, Yeah,

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you're right, he's never called Oh wait, I take that back,

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he's met Pete on his deathbed. Does say you know,

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he's like, are we going home? Major? Are we going home? Boss?

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And Chuck Norris is like, yeah, we're going home. And

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then he says, I'll see you there, Scott, I see

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you know.

799
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He says, I'll see you when I see you.

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He does say i'll see it, but he says, I'll

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see you there're Scott. I have to because I thought

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I promise you. Because it's the only time where one

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of his guys uh kind of you know, disrespects the

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rank and doesn't call him by his rank or by

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his by his last name. Because Chuck Norris does the

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same thing at the beginning when he calls uh Lee

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Marvin's character Nick. You know, he's like, what, they're all buddies, yeah,

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you know, but at this point Pete is like the

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new old buddy.

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And I don't like Chuck Norris with two names, you know,

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Braddock McCoy. You know, you can throw a colonel or

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a major or whatever rank in there, but one name,

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one name for Chuck and get it right in the credits,

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Like just call get it right into credits because people are.

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Like, god, yeah, I was like, wait, did I miss something, Scott? YEA,

816
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all right, Well, Brad Look, I want to thank you

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for for jumping in, for jumping back to nineteen eighty six. Look,

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we talked about this, uh someone it was pointed out like,

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you guys, you did sixty six episodes of a of

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a series called nineteen eighty six. Why couldn't you just

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done twenty more? I was like, well, you know, when

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you run out of time, you run out of time.

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But now, thanks to Patreon, we're we're trying to hit

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that mark, right, Brad?

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So yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we had to

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throw Witchboard in there somehow.

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So are you even on the Patreon You're gonna you're

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gonna take digs at witchboard? You gotta let that go, man,

829
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come on. Awful, it was awesomely awful, like like it's

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because it's awesome, Like all right, I can't get into

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that debate with you again, but uh, Brad, hopefully you

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were going to jump back to eighty six one or

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one or a few more times as we as we

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do these for these special episodes for Patreon, we can

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we can count on you for that, right absolutely major.

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Al Right, well you bring the scrambled eggs, I'll bring

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the bud Wiser.

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How's that all right, let's head the babe route.

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We'll get. We'll see you guys next time.