Jan. 26, 2025

Paul Schrader - Blue Collar

Paul Schrader - Blue Collar
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff and Amber are taking aim at tense relationships, the struggles that come with a union job, and one of Richard Pryor's greatest performances in Paul Schrader's directorial debut, Blue Collar!

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I think the great thing about a lot of movies

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is that blues riff.

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Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, It's in

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so many movies, and it dawns.

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I mean, we we've never covered a movie that has

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that blues riff.

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You know, the Adventures in Babysitting.

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We have not covered Adventures in babysitting. That's that's not

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exactly an underrated film. I don't know that we will,

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but I'm glad that we're finally getting, you know, a

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chance to maybe talk about one of those movies that

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has that that blues riff. You know what I'll you

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know the blues riff I'm talking about now. And it's

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so easy because you can make a song out of

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virtually anything, right, Yes, all right, hold on, I'm gonna

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send you something.

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We're gonna let's let's put this to the test. Okay,

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all right, I just I just I just sent you

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four four lines.

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All right, all right, all right, all right, I'm gonna

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give it a beat.

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Are are you ready for this?

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Wait?

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Already?

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I just go one at a time, don't just go

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one time? Are you ready for this? All right? Yeah?

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Single mother on a film? Buy no hell ain't freezing,

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just keeping these boys in line.

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D I think we just got our new theme song.

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Oh god, how great was that? Amber Lewis is the voice.

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Hell Ember, I got my own theme song. Now, jeez,

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you just see how easy that. I got a hashtag

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that that riff is so good. You can make a

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song out of anything. Amber.

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Let's talk about a film by Paul Schrader, his nineteen

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seventy eight underrated directorial debut, Blue Collar.

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Hello, everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, the voice

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of Reason, the Reason, and this is a.

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Film by podcast Amber. Thank you for being such a

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good sport about that.

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That was that was fun?

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Oh my god, that was amazing.

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Yeah, listen this we we have someone to think. Uh,

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not only for that, for giving us that opportunity, but

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but for this, for this movie. We are talking about

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Paul Schrader's Blue Collar because one of our listeners as

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made I'd say he's made a passionate plea for this one,

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not once, but twice talking about Josh Avery from Detroit, Michigan.

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So Amber last season is when he first reached out

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to us. He wrote, I absolutely love your podcast and

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give it a five star rating.

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Thank you, Josh for that. We always appreciate our five

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star ratings.

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With recent episodes about Union movies, Norma Ray Amber.

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That's that that should date it for you. Yeah, because

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you did Norma Ray forty five. Yeah, he says.

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He says, with recent episodes about Union movies and coming

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of age movies, I would recommend Blue Collar by Paul

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Schrader and Heaven Help Us from nineteen eighty four as

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a coming of age movie. Keep the great episodes coming

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fan for life and a follow up message, He also said,

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Paul Schrader is from my hometown and Blue Collar, in

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my opinion, is Richard Pryor's best acting work.

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I gotta tell you, this was the first time watch for.

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Me and I may I never I might have heard

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of this.

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I might have to agree with Josh Avery about prior.

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Maybe maybe this is his best his best acting.

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I mean it was sure amazing.

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Yeah. Well, and you know he mentioned the he talked

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talking about coming of age movies.

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He mentioned Heaven Help Us, so I looked into that one.

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It's actually it was actually released in the US and

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February of nineteen eighty five, which means it's fortieth anniversary

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is a few weeks away. It's streaming on Max right now,

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So I don't know, remember what what do you say?

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How about we cover that one on our Patreon next month?

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I think that Donald, Donald Sutherland, I know you're Donald Southan.

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I've ever heard of that one either.

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It'd be a first time watch for the both of us.

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Another first time watch.

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We've been doing that and after this one, like I

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trust Josh.

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Yeah, we trust Josh and Josh we trust.

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Oh no, I do know this one. Okay, I haven't seen.

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It, but I know it Sutherland Andrew McCarthy. Yeah, yeah,

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I was looking into this. I was like, how did

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this is eighty five? How did I not ever see it?

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So?

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I think we should do it.

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Actually, I think we should just we should add that

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into the Yep, the next month's Patreon.

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Lineup sounds like a plan, all right.

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Well, back to Paul Schrader, little little uh three facts

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and in a quote for you, Amber, we love our

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we love our facts. Right absolutely, Here's what I'll tell

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you about Paul Schrader. He's known for writing and directing

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stories about men who fall into desperation as their situations escalate.

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And if you are familiar with Paul Schrader's work before

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we even get into it.

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That is that's that's right on the money for this guy.

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Yeah for real.

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Yeah, And when we get into like you know, I'm

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gonna I do want to kind of blitz through his

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his written work here.

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In a minute, so we'll But does that ring true? Absolutely?

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Yes, for sure. I mean I didn't know him as

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a director, but then when I clicked on him as

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a writer, I was like, oh, I get it.

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You get it right.

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Fun fact he shares a birthday with actor Danny Glover.

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I don't think they've ever worked together. I can't think

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of Danny Glover film where it's been written or directed

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by Paul Schrader. Looking at his at his fomograph.

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I think, yeah, I don't think.

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So let's get these birthday boys together, right, yeah. Amber.

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On several occasions, he has shared his belief that the

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human race will be extinct by the year twenty fifty.

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I don't I try to dig deeper, it's just something

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he believes.

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I don't know.

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Wow, maybe because twenty fifty sounds like a made up year.

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Well that's not a rail year. Let's be let's be fair.

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He's in his seventies. We're not. You know, we're going

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to see twenty fifties. So let's hope that we're still around.

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The things they are looking right now.

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We'll find out, we'll find out.

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A quote from mister Schrader, he says, if you write

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interesting roles, you get interesting people to play them. If

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you write roles that are full of nuance and contradiction

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and have interesting dialogue, actors are drawn to that. You

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have to have a role where an actor says, Okay,

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I'm not going to get as much money as I want.

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I'm going to have to work on a shorter shooting

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schedule then i'd like. But the role is really interesting,

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so let's do it.

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That's a that's a that's an artist.

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Yeah. Well, and to have the talent to write those

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things like, yeah, this guy's amazing.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna chet here. I'm gonna give you

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a bonus quote because I read this one. I was like,

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that is so Amber Lewis. We we we've talked about

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how we feel about studio execs over the past five seasons.

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Sometimes they help a lot of times they don't. I

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think Paul Schrader is Uh, it's like he's on he's

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on our wavelength. He said. Quote.

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Every time you think the studios have fucked you every way,

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they can they come up with a new way.

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How about that? Boy?

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Isn't it the truth? Though?

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This guy does not pull punches at all?

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Wow?

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Can we can we add a little a little moment here,

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a little written by Paul Schrader because I know, I

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know this is where we're It's directors, But let's let's

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talk about what he's written. Nineteen seventy four, he writes

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the Yakuza Amber. We covered Brad and I did an

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episode on the Yakuza, So go back and check that

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out if you didn't listen.

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That's that was early.

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I was like season two maybe nineteen seventy six. Taxi Driver,

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which we covered on our nineteen seventy six limited series.

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Did that one with Andy tom So shout out to Andy,

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who who is a taxi driver fan.

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We had a good time on that one.

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Nineteen seventy seven, Rolling Thunder, nineteen seventy eight, Blue Collar,

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which we're talking about today, nineteen seventy nine Hardcore Amber.

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Does that ring a bell to you? Have you seen

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that one?

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Oh?

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I can't. Okay, all right, we'll put a pin in that.

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I can't wait to talk about that one nineteen eighty

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American Jigglow and Raging Bowl nineteen eighty two.

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Cat People nineteen eighty six.

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One you are definitely familiar with because we covered it

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on our Patreon. It was one of our lost nineteen

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eighty six episodes. I'm talking about the Mosquito Coast.

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Yes, nineteen eighty eight.

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He's back with Scorsese, The Last Temptation of Christ in

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nineteen ninety seven.

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He does affliction.

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All of this, and not only has he never won

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an Oscar, he's only been nominated once.

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Can you believe that?

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No? But I mean it's a competitive world, but it Yeah,

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but still some of these are amazing.

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I mean Hollywood classics.

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Speaking of classics, let's talk about Blue Collar Amber this one.

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I didn't know anything about this one until Josh Avery

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introduced us to it. And I know this was the

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first time watch for you. This might be a first

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time watch for other people. Maybe they haven't seen it.

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Can you tell us what Blue Collar is about? Give

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us a little synopsis, if you will.

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It's about three guys that work in an automotive factory

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and they're all, you know, struggling financially, and they decide

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to rob the union headquarters. They think there's like the

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motherload to be found in their safe, but they also

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find corruption and dirty dealing and and a lot of

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nefarious things going on in the union, so they decide, hey,

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we could go in for some more money and blackmail them.

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Yeah.

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So, despite its critical acclaim and success, Schrader has publicly

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disowned this film.

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Does that surprise you now that we've seen this.

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I mean, unless it has to do with what went

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on behind the scenes, because this movie is amazing.

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It's an incredible film, and I think it has everything

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to do with what went on behind the scenes, because

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this film famously had a very troubled production, full of fights,

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verbal abuse, walk offs, standoffs between the cast. Schrader even

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claimed that a drug fueled prior punched Harvey Kitel in

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the face, hit yaff at Coto with a chair during filming,

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and pulled a gun on him, insisting that he wouldn't

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do more than three takes for a scene.

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Whoa I mean, Richard Pryor was struggling, So I can

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kind of believe all of these things.

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This is Richard Pryor the seventies cocaine at the height

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of his at the height of his popularity, in his power.

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Yeah yeah.

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Schreder even gave an interview in which he said, quote,

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I hired three bulls and asked them to come into

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a china shop, and I promised each of those bulls

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that they would be the lead actor.

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He kind of met himself up.

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You kind of brought this on yourself, Paul. Let's let's

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think about this, because you've got three incredible actors right here,

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right You've got three name actors, and you tell each

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of them, Hey, this is your movie, and then when

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we get to set, they all figure out that they're

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not the lead.

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What did you think was going to happen?

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Egos even just the way that they the different ways

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that the three of them work, Yeah, where Harvey Kaitel

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takes him like three or four takes to kind of

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get his groove on and then he's ready to give you,

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like the good one. Richard Pryor wants to do the

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first three because that's when he's all hyped up, and

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then he's done. Yeah, and then you off that codo

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like wants to be completely on book as it's written,

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and prior is like iprop improvising, yeah, all over the place,

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Like there's no way to get these three dam mess like,

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no way at all.

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It's one thing when you're dealing with Hollywood egos, but

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this is the late seventies and alpha male, three alpha

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males are vying.

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For the for the top spot. My movie, This is

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my movie.

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Yeah, I can't. It shocks me that they actually filmed

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it in thirty five days. They got the entire film

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shot in thirty five days, without without without someone dying.

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It blows my mind.

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Everybody's also hopped up on cocaine behind well.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cocaine is a hell of a drug

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and it was. It was in mass use on the

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on the set. Yeah, absolutely yeah.

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So all this straighter.

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Allegedly suffered a minor nervous breakdown and temporarily quit the

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film business, which had to be pretty temporary because Hardcore

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comes out a year later.

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Obviously, But still I cannot blame him.

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I'll tell you, I I wish we could go a

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lot deeper because I don't know about you. I don't

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know what kind of stuff you kicked up, but I

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saw I read some stuff.

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I was like, Yeah, that's that's dark.

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That's that's going, that's over the line, right, And I

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was like, let's just I'll tell you what listeners, look

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look into blue collar if you want to, if you

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really want to hear some real dirt, you want to

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read some real dirt. There's there's plenty more out there.

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We're just giving you a little peek behind the curtain

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at it because because we got to move on, Uh.

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We're gonna take a quick break when we when.

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We get back, we'll talk about the cast. All right, Louis,

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this is company time. You don't like it, tell your rep.

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That guy was such a dick, wasn't he?

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Oh? My god?

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Do yeah? Oh, let Amberg. Let's talk about this cast.

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So Richard Pryor playing zeke Zekiel Brown, he gets top billing,

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despite despite everything, he gets top billing on this one.

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It's like the most one of the most famous people

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in the world.

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Well yeah, I mean he had done what eighteen movies

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before this, fifteen movies before this, and even in seventy

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eight he's got this. He's got California Sweet, and he's

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got the whiz.

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Yeah.

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No, I don't know about you because I I'm more

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familiar with eighties prior as opposed to like seventies.

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Prior for movies.

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Yeah, did it throw you off to see him without

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a mustache? A little bit? Right?

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A little bit?

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Yeah?

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Blue Collar?

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Blue Collar is the last film you'll see him in

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without a mustache.

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It just seemed weird.

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It is a little distracting.

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It Like it's like if Sam Elliott shaves his mustache

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or Tom Selleck.

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Yes, what are you doing? Guys still do it? Did

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you imagine if I shaved my beard off, who did

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you do with Jeff? I wouldn't even look the same. Yeah, yeah, prior.

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So here's the funny thing. Just last week, when we

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were talking about the American President, we were like, hey,

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at least next week we got a comedy. We're gonna

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be laughing. We got Richard Pryor.

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Yeah, and I'll be honest, Like, well, I'll be honest

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with you. I had some laughs, But it only takes

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about ten minutes for you to realize you're not watching

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a comedy.

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Yeah, ten minutes. I mean the cold open with the

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Blues song was, Yeah, they're saying the F word in

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the opening song. I was like, oh, this is the

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factory we're working in a right. Yep, we're not sugarcoating

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anything nothing.

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Yeah.

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The thing is he has you laughing your ass off

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towards the beginning of this movie. And there might be

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a couple of funny quips here and there, but he's

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he's doing some really good dramatic acting in this film

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as far as I'm concerned. Oh yeah, it's emotional.

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You know.

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It wasn't like that. I can be serious, you know,

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kind of like it was intense and.

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It's all it was.

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Yes, that's the word.

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Yeah were you? Were you laughing at the way he

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speaks at his children so much? You can't you can't

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cuss it your kids like that, can't you?

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Amb I mean it was said with love. They were

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not set what you know.

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I just I just can't imagine, like six year old

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Liam breaks one of his toys and you're like, oh,

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you got money to pay for that?

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They shut U. No, that was not my parenting style

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of choice. Not a surprise from Richard Pryor.

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Amber Lewis not of the prior parenting school. Did that

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living room take you back? Though?

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Like they're watching? I don't know if it was good.

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Times, like uh, like the big hit in nineteen seventy eight,

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because every time the television's on, everyone's watching.

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But they didn't take Jefferson's Oh.

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Yeah, the Jefferson he watched it.

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He's complaining about, uh yeah, did that did that room?

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Take you back there? Like the plastic on the couch?

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Like that was just seventies.

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Gold I loved. And she was like, if you don't

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like this show, turn it off. And he was like,

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it took me three years to pay for this TV.

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I watch it everything they put.

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On, like when the when the shows go off, and

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we just got that snow, I'm watching that snow.

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I'm watching that watch it all. Yeah. At that point,

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I'm still like.

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This is a fun it's gonna be This is gonna

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be a really fun comedy with a couple slow points,

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like dramatic stuff. No, it's the opposite the way around,

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but man, he's cooking for real. Towards the beginning of

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this movie, let's talk about Harvick Kitel, who is he

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just the perfect nineteen seventies dad, The way he's the

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way he's dressed in this with like the high waisted

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pants and the medium T shirt, short sleeve collared shirt

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with the tie tie tucked into the pants.

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He wears that ball cap like it's like a strong

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wind would blow it off his head. Yes, but it's

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not going anywhere. I love kytelling this. What'd you think?

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Oh? He's amazing. He is just amazing. And you know,

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my heart just went out to him. Like you know

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the scene where he's like trying to act like, oh

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I forgot I left the gas pump on.

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Oh, I was like.

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Lying as a you're probably like that, No, weal believe

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that we're not buying that ship. And you know, I

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love the fact that when like you know, and I

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know we're jumping forward to scenes, but I love the

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fact that when he's trying to sneak out, his wife's

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so supportive.

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She's like, oh, okay, well be careful.

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And when Richard Pryor is trying to do the same thing,

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his wife's like, where are you going?

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What are you doing? Baby? He sniffs on our picts,

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He's like, where am I gonna go?

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I'm funky, you know what I'm he my friend move

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at two am.

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Well, he's trying to dip out, you know, don't come back.

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You know, she is not having any of it. But

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but Kitel, he is, he's just doing an amazing job here.

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You know, you figure this is his second time. I

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think it's a second time working with Strader because he

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you know, he played a scout in a taxi driver.

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You know, he sart that little that that small role.

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But uh, not having a good time on set. You know,

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we kind of alluded to some of the fighting. Uh,

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he actually was one of the.

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He was the after that walked off the set.

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They his agent caught up with him at the airport

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where he was ready to fly home. That's how bad

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things were getting, and convinced him to come back. But

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I read this Amber and I know you must have. Well,

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we got to tell the listeners about this. So you're

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you know, you're talking about how Kitel likes to warm up.

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You know, get a couple of takes in. Apparently one

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day he's warming up and they had a stand in

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for Richard Pryor, who was giving Prior's lines. Right, So

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Prior comes in tries to knock it out of the park.

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On the first take.

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Kite Tell takes offense to it, you know, believes that

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Richard Pryor is trying to upstage him and show boat

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a little and before you know it, he starts screwing

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around with Prior like he's moving props. He's looking directly

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at the camera to ruin the take. This pisses Prior off.

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Fist start flying, big fist fight, including a Schrader himself

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who got caught in the middle of it, with the

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Prior's bodyguards Kit Tell and a couple.

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Other grips that were on set.

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I just imagine this is this is this, this is

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the seventies, this is the wild West. You know, this

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is still when we're doing like Maverick filmmaking. Could you

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imagine if this was today, when all the studio heads

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are like popping in and we've got all the rules

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and they would have this ship would have been shut

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down completely been made.

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Yeah, I would have been canned. But uh, I'm glad.

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I'm glad that I'm glad that didn't happen.

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I'm glad that they broke all the kinds of rules, uh,

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to get this film out because I love Kytel. This

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is one of this Now that I've seen it, I

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think this is like a top five Kayitel.

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Performance for me.

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Oh yeah, And that's saying something because the man has

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done some pretty oppressive stuff. Absolutely, yah Fat Cooto as Smoky.

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My first question, did he just leave the set in

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the wardrobe and walked straight over to Ridley Scott's set

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for Alien?

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Yes?

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Does situation I'll talk about the boat of situation.

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Does Yah fat Coto have like a clause in its

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contract that he gets to wear headbands?

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What's up with what's going on?

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I think he does whatever he wants and it's fabulous.

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I think that's a good way to look at it.

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And yeah, let Yaffette Codo do what yat Coto wants

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to do. I mean yeah, because he was in you know,

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he was he played a Bond villain and how.

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Much was he in? He was? Who was he? I

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think he was doctor Kenango. It was a Live and

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Let Die? Yes, Roger Moore, Jane Seymour, Oh not Domino Solitaire. Yeah,

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I'm looking back at at yaf at Coto now. I

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think the only problem with his character was that he

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wouldn't wearing a headband.

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Yep, see beat Bond's ass if he had a headband.

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Yeah, well so he's playing he's playing Smoky here. I

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love his character he's probably my favorite of the three.

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Yes, he's like you. He's the voice of reason, right

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he is.

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He has that great speech.

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Oh well, we're going to get to that speech.

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I know.

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I love I love that we get it twice, We'll

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get to it. We'll get to it quick. You mentioned.

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He does not. He's very by the book. He likes

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to read the script.

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He was not a fan of Prior at all because

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Prior was doing all this improv stuff and it caused

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him to lose his place at a lot of times.

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So he's it's screwing him up. So he's they're not

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getting along. No one's getting along on this film, right,

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But I don't know. I think it helps. It helps

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helps you believe like they when they are arguing or

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there are bickering, going back and forth to each other,

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it's more believable.

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I believe them as like buddies, like work buddies.

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That well, I was gonna say, yeah, they're not really friends.

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It's their middle aged men who spend what fifty hours

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a week together, you know, doing work in ten hour

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days probably, And then who do they go home to, like,

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00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:00.400
who are there friends?

481
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:00.519
Like?

482
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:03.160
You know, if they're not gonna go bowl together and

483
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.079
like take the wives out to dinner together.

484
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.599
Like where who are they? What are they?

485
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.160
You know? And there's a scene one of the scenes

486
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:13.279
I want to talk about later, you know, party at smokies.

487
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.720
You know, I mean, who else you gonna who else

488
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:16.519
you get on wine with?

489
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:17.240
Right?

490
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:20.000
Yeah, A couple of people I want to talk about

491
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:20.880
here real quick.

492
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.400
This one's for David Burns, who who has worked on

493
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:29.039
set with Clifty Young. He's playing Burrows, the FBI guy,

494
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.599
the the you know, the ones trying to crack the

495
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:32.119
the Union.

496
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:34.559
I love I love that guy. He's one of those

497
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.039
that guy's like, oh that guy, I know him. He's

498
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:39.720
like everything he is.

499
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:40.440
But here's the thing.

500
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.839
We talked about him a while back because he's in

501
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:47.200
a lot of stuff, but he typically plays uh, you know,

502
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:50.279
like an asshole or he plays someone he plays someone

503
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:54.440
that's a little slimy. Yes, So I told you David

504
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.839
worked with him, that he was on set on a

505
00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.720
film and he's like, yeah, the guy's a guy's a jerk,

506
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.160
like offset like off camera he's a total jerk.

507
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.480
I don't know. I mean, I'm just I'm speaking on

508
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.880
day's behalf, Like you know, I don't know experience.

509
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.599
Yeah, yeah, if you asked for if you asked for

510
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.640
the David Burns experience, he's he's gonna tell you, like,

511
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.880
you know, don't work with the Clifty Young.

512
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.039
So how about that?

513
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.599
Even this, I know, yeah, I know, he's a I know,

514
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.799
he's a good guy in this. And he's still kind

515
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.519
of slimming, That's what I'm saying. He's still slimy, like

516
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.240
his way of coming into the Joe's Cafe or Joe's

517
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.000
Bar whatever that was, and buying the beers just and

518
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.119
you know, and I.

519
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.319
Love when Smoky's like you are a liar.

520
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:42.920
Yes, well, Ember you you know you have a little

521
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.119
bit of experience with this.

522
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.079
Like one thing I dig about that scene and it's

523
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:47.079
not one of the scenes I want talk about, but

524
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.839
I'm gonna talk about because because of Clifty Young.

525
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:55.759
I love the passion in these guys like Kit tell Uh.

526
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.480
You know, his character Jerry gets upset once he once

527
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.640
he finds out this guy's here to try and dig

528
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:03.559
up dirt on the union.

529
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:04.359
Mm hmm.

530
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:08.359
Right, So that's where I'm like, yeah, he's he's kind

531
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.279
of a dirtball. He's he's kind of Slade ball right

532
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.240
because he comes in like, hey, guys, let me buy

533
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.160
some beers, you know, And I love that at that

534
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.359
moment that where you know, waitress comes to settle everybody down.

535
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.400
Here's the beers, and you know, we'll tell him he's

536
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:23.720
paying for them. Well, I was asked to leave.

537
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:28.720
He's like, pay for him then you then you can leave.

538
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:32.039
Yeah, put Clift to Young in his place. Yeah, Cliff

539
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:36.480
Cliff's in here. Uh, much to uh David's chagrin. But

540
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.720
three other guys. I was so happy to see Lane Smith.

541
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.160
He's uh, he's the union rep?

542
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.279
Right? Uh? Is he? Was he a union rep? Or

543
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.119
was he shop Stewart?

544
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:51.160
I was a little confused there, No, here's the union rep.

545
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:56.359
Okay, he's union rep. And uh, I he's got one

546
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.319
of almost.

547
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.759
The same guy from my cousin Vinnie.

548
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.160
Not Jim Dropped the third. This is this is not

549
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.640
Jim drop the Third. This is not uh, this is

550
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.400
not Perry White from Lewis and Clark.

551
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:13.519
Have you ever seen Lane Smith? Looks so young and thin.

552
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.400
And the long hair, that long.

553
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.759
Hair that's seventy that nineteen seventy eight.

554
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:19.119
Hair of his.

555
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.000
Yeah, is he is?

556
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.880
He was he gunning for like People's fifty most Beautiful

557
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:25.799
in nineteen seventy eight.

558
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.240
I think he was Yeah, good, he did that, he

559
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:31.880
said some time with a with a round brush and

560
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.680
hair dryer. It didn't just happen.

561
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:36.880
I did. I did.

562
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.599
I did feel a little bad for his character because

563
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:40.680
he's sitting there, he's trying to trying to keep orders,

564
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.000
trying to conduct the meeting, and they're all just like Amber.

565
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.319
You can't tell fifty grown men to calm down and

566
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.079
pay attention. And when you're when you're when you're asking

567
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:52.279
them to volunteer.

568
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.880
Well, and that was Saturday the other day.

569
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.359
I'm I'm a union family and I believe in the union,

570
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:04.000
but there are things that are bullshit. And like these

571
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.720
guys just were ten hours. They're sweaty, they're hot, they

572
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.720
want to go home. That's when you have the union

573
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.400
meeting and you're trying to get them to volunteer to

574
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.240
do something on a Saturday like and this is you

575
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.480
can tell this is a long time they've had this

576
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:25.960
union representation. So they're not fighting for the big things anymore. No,

577
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.720
the passion is is not there.

578
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:31.559
Yeah, poor poor Lane Smith.

579
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:37.079
Uh again, young thin How about Ed Bagley Junior with

580
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.960
that ponytail right what what I don't remember.

581
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.160
Like one of the smartest actors around, like playing a

582
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:46.839
total dufist, Like, oh.

583
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.119
Yeah, he's like Jeff Spaccoli in this. I don't even

584
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:51.000
remember if he has lines.

585
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:51.519
He's just there.

586
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.960
He just seems to always be either in the background

587
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.759
at the auto plant or he's in the background at

588
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:57.279
Joe's Bar.

589
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.440
Yes, just looking like a dope. But I love it,

590
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.960
you know. And then one more guy.

591
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.680
I saw this guy again, baby faced because it's nineteen

592
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:08.759
seventy eight.

593
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:14.200
But did you recognize Tracy Walter? Does that name something familiar? Yeah?

594
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:15.279
All right, listen listeners.

595
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.839
If you don't recognize the name Tracy Walter, go back

596
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:19.640
to City Slickers.

597
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.200
He played Cookie the Cook, Yes broke.

598
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.480
Most importantly, nineteen eighty nine, he played Bob the Goon.

599
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:33.079
You know, recognized his face. I didn't know why.

600
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:39.440
My number one God, Yeah, yes, sir, Yeah, Bob the

601
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.680
Gooon himself Tracy Walter, and he just like he just

602
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.240
he's like a random union worker who's basically like here's

603
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:46.079
something at one of the means.

604
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:47.960
He just jumps up and it's like bullshit, you know.

605
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.359
He just not happy.

606
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.440
You know, I love seeing it, like when you know,

607
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.799
I like that when we take the opportunity to do

608
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:56.039
a movie from like the seventies. I know we don't

609
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.960
do it often, but I love when we do it

610
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.759
because then you see actors in rare form like it's

611
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.079
like maybe it's one of their first few movies, or

612
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.519
like they just look so young, or they look they

613
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.519
look completely different than what we're used to seeing them.

614
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.839
And these three guys absolutely fitting the bill for that,

615
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:14.680
for that vibe.

616
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.680
Well, in seventies movies have I just feel a level

617
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.920
of realism that has gotten lost a little the way. Yeah,

618
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:29.440
I mean, this is the most realistic factory situation.

619
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:31.759
Yeah, when you came out.

620
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.400
This is the second time we've talked about a movie

621
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.880
dealing with the auto plant industry, you know, like the Union,

622
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.319
because we covered Gung Ho on nineteen eighty six are

623
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.000
Limited nineteen eighty six series.

624
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.920
This is like the dramatic version of Gung Ho.

625
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.680
Yes, kind of funny because you think about it, like

626
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.599
one of the biggest comedians of the seventies, Richard Pryor,

627
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.759
is in this and then they you know, Gung Ho

628
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:00.480
had one of the biggest Comedians of the you know,

629
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.920
with Michael Keaton. Yeah, so, I guess the point there

630
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.160
is that if you're going to do a union movie, you.

631
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.759
Should get a community funny in there.

632
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.400
Get someone funny to do to be dramatic. You're right, though,

633
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.720
you're on point with the seventies. If I could, if

634
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.000
I could plug my my new favorite podcast Amber, Yes,

635
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.759
the cine Have you been? Have you heard the Cinematic

636
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.119
Flashback podcast yet?

637
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:25.359
I have not.

638
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.400
It's so it's our our our buddy Chuck Bryan, him

639
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.960
and his co host Matt. They're talking specifically and only

640
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.119
about movies from the seventies. And they got this great

641
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.039
hook where it's like that, you know, they take you

642
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.519
through the movie, they don't really spoil it at all.

643
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.039
You know, they give you some details, but they don't

644
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.319
there's no really no spoilers, which I my hat's off

645
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.720
to them because they don't ruin the movie for you.

646
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.200
Well, and it's easy to say, like, well it's fifty

647
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.400
years old, it's just right now, but absolutely you haven't

648
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:57.640
seen what you haven't seen, Like.

649
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.839
Yeah, Chuck and Matt don't do that. And and the

650
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.200
cool thing I find myself.

651
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.759
Looking forward to, like the ending because they the questions

652
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.240
always asked, you know, did this movie grow through the.

653
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.640
Decades or you know or not? And I don't know.

654
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.240
I just Amber. You gotta check about listeners.

655
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.920
If you have not heard the Cinematic Flashback podcast yet,

656
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.480
find them on Spotify, find them on Yeah. I'm pretty

657
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.480
sure they're on most of the listening platforms, Amber, if

658
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:29.200
I'm not mistaken.

659
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.200
So, but yeah, they're great, They're.

660
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.559
Great, awesome, something new to listen to.

661
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.119
Yeah, let's talk about this film's background a little bit.

662
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.880
So Trader takes inspiration from a story he was told

663
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.440
about a man who worked in an auto plant before

664
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.039
committing suicide, and that kind of evolves into the idea

665
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.920
about union workers robbing their own union. So he heads

666
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.480
to Detroit and starts interviewing auto workers to shape the story,

667
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.599
and one worker told him quote, we hate management, but

668
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.759
you know who we hate more than management, our own union.

669
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:04.640
It fucks us.

670
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.239
And Shrader was stunned by the comment, and that kind

671
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.400
of helped outline the script. That's, you know, that's where

672
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.559
we get this this whole we don't like the union

673
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:18.039
vibe that that they take on the auto plant.

674
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:19.280
I caught this, I don't know if you caught this.

675
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.360
Did you catch there was a scene where they're they're

676
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.599
inside the plant and one of the finished vehicles is

677
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.000
rolling by and it was a checker cab.

678
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.199
Did you pick up on that?

679
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:30.000
I mean, I saw it was a cab.

680
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.199
Yeah, it's like a blink and you miss it.

681
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.559
But uh, the auto plant scenes were all filmed at

682
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.400
the Checker Cab plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan. U Schrader had

683
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.400
been turned down by pretty much every working plant.

684
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:44.719
Oh I can't imagine.

685
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.480
Yeah, I imagine who would who would? Who would? Think?

686
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:48.400
Right?

687
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.960
But the Checker Cab plant agreed, hoping that the film

688
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.599
shoot would boost morale and take attention away from the

689
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.960
labor issues they were having with the uh the worker.

690
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.559
And then you got Richard Pryor and Harvey kins Hell

691
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.119
trying to murder each other on the floor.

692
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.440
Let's let's go into Kalamazoo for a minute. It's like,

693
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.239
you know, you got people like this bullshit and then like,

694
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:14.400
oh listen, we hear you, and we're gonna get to this.

695
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.199
But meantime, famous comedian Richard Pryor is gonna be here

696
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:22.000
for a while. Let's let's all show them a warm reception.

697
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.559
You know, they're gonna film a movie. Never mind, that's exciting,

698
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.480
that's it. That exciting guys. Yet, never mind that, you know, you.

699
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.760
Don't care that you don't get another bathroom break.

700
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.440
It's fine, No, it's fine. Right.

701
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.320
Well, what I noticed was I had left the movie running.

702
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.559
At the end of the credits, when you get to

703
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.360
the you know, any this is the work of fiction,

704
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.320
and yeah, you know that disclaimer.

705
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:49.760
The lawyer disclaim.

706
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.480
Right before that, there's a disclaimer that says, like it

707
00:35:53.599 --> 00:36:00.639
was filmed on location at this factory in Michigan, and like,

708
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.880
nothing that happens in this movie bears any resemblance to

709
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.079
our factory or our union.

710
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.199
Yeah, this is not our union and it's not our fact.

711
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.800
Yeah, yeah, entirely the work of fiction. They were just

712
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.039
in the building a.

713
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.199
Lot of cover your ass jargons.

714
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.880
You mentioned the F word being used at right in

715
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.639
the beginning the opening credits.

716
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.559
Yeah, like I had to write it back. I've listening

717
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:26.480
to the song and I'm just kind of grooving, you know,

718
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.360
to the to the beat, and then all of a sudden,

719
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.159
I was like, what is this language what he's saying?

720
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:41.599
And he's like this job is bullshit. Oh my god.

721
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.519
At the time of its release, Blue Collar held the

722
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.400
record for most uses of the F word, with one

723
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:50.599
hundred and fifty eight.

724
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:52.679
Now that's kind of tame.

725
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.239
That's well, it's nineteen seventy eight, though, Well, this is true.

726
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.760
You know the record would be broken in nineteen eighty

727
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.159
three by a fantastic film, one of my favorites.

728
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.599
You want to take a guess, do you want to

729
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:13.639
play rough? Okay, come on, wow, scarface, scarface scarf.

730
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.599
It have to be something with Eddie Murphy in it.

731
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:16.760
But eighty three is too early.

732
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.400
Well yeah, yeah, eighty three Scarface used it two hundred

733
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:25.320
and seven times. And currently do you know who the

734
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.800
record holder? Which film is the record holder at present?

735
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.079
I could not. I watched five minutes of this movie

736
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.840
and had to turn it off. I'm ashamed to say,

737
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:35.960
because I just I was like, oh, this is disgusting.

738
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.719
So I know it's Wolf of Wall Street, but I

739
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.719
have personally witnessed all five hundred and however many.

740
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.199
Yeah, five hundred and sixty nine times the sport is

741
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:51.000
used in the Wolf of Wall Street Amber. You saw

742
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.199
five minutes U and turned it off, I would tell

743
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.239
you turn it back on, watch the other two hundred

744
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:57.079
and fifteen.

745
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:01.280
Whatever, because it is disgusting. It's disgustingly awesome, you know,

746
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.280
and Rob Reiner's in it. How are you gonna not

747
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.480
watch a movie we just talked about Rob Reiner.

748
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.920
We just talked about him. I'm afraid of what Rob

749
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.320
Reiner is doing in this movie.

750
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:16.480
Well, he's he's one of the more he's he's he's

751
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.920
a tame character. He might have a conversation with his

752
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.880
son that I never want to have with my father.

753
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:28.199
But no, oh, it's deplorably awesome. You gotta watch it.

754
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.119
Go back, we'll cover it. I'll just say, hey, we're

755
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.119
doing Wolf for Wall Street. Aber.

756
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.440
You don't have a choice, no choice, I'm sorry, sorry,

757
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:36.840
co host.

758
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.480
Yeah, Now, can we talk about some noteworthy scenes because

759
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.239
I've got four or five, and of course one of

760
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.079
them will be the pivotal moment, and I think we're

761
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:46.880
gonna have the same one.

762
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.599
But we got tiptoed around this one. We did mention it.

763
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:50.880
Let's start with the first one.

764
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.559
Zeke speaks out against Lane Smith about his locker at

765
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.760
the beginning of the movie ten minutes in and I'm

766
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.920
loving this movie. Prior is just playing his greatest hits,

767
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.239
Oliver Lane Smith's face right, because.

768
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:04.920
He's trying to get control.

769
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.960
He's trying to get some volunteers to work on their

770
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.800
day off to pass out leaflets.

771
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.880
Richard Pryor stands up. He's like, here we go. See

772
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.760
Zeke's Zeke's the team players. Ain't shitz't on his day off? Man,

773
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.559
Fuck you, yeah, that's what's your problem. He's like, he's like,

774
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:20.280
my locker. Man.

775
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.719
He just goes on this dea trip about his locker

776
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.960
being broken for six months, and I'm like, calmed, it's

777
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:26.400
a locker.

778
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:27.719
But then think if this was.

779
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:33.119
Real, the locker and that stupid vending machine, Like, oh god,

780
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.480
it's the thing that's gonna send you over the edge.

781
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:41.880
You're cracking right, Yeah, this this scene sets up the

782
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.039
movie perfectly. Everything we need to know about Richard Pryor's character.

783
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.119
We're gonna learn right there in that ten minutes. We're

784
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.320
gonna learn about his his conviction, we're gonna learn about

785
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:55.559
his defiance, we're gonna learn about his comedic timing, his

786
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.480
perfectly comedic uh time to responses sometimes.

787
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.679
Fans astic moment. Moving on.

788
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:04.320
I know this was the first time watching for you.

789
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.559
We hadn't talked, we weren't we weren't trading, uh play

790
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.800
by play when I watched this party at Smoky's and

791
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.800
I was like, oh shit, Amber, Amber's not.

792
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.360
Gonna be happy about this one, because.

793
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.679
We got got It was funny, yeah, well to a point,

794
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:26.480
you know, we got cocaine, hookers, wild turkey, until it

795
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:31.239
segues into this demoralizing observation about male depression, like when

796
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:32.679
the three of them are sitting on the couch together

797
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.280
and talk about pulling the rug from you.

798
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:41.880
Because the moment, uh my, oh ship Amber somewhere watching

799
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:42.360
this right now.

800
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.559
Moment for me was when Richard Pryor, I don't even

801
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.199
know what you call it. He's he's having sex with

802
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.800
the girl on the floor. And yeah, but yet they're

803
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.599
they're like army crawling towards towards the towards us.

804
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.239
It looked incredibly, It looked.

805
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.280
If a woman asked me to do that, I come home, please,

806
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.519
just you know, just uber, I can't be right.

807
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:11.559
I don't know what they're doing. Why would you do that?

808
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.159
Unless was it the coke?

809
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.119
I guess probably probably probably they've gone feral at that point.

810
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.119
My favorite part was when Harvey Kaitel was like servicing

811
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.239
his lady and Richard Pryor just keeps talking to him,

812
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.519
and he finally like lists his and he's like, I'm

813
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:27.480
a little busy.

814
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.960
I'm working on something here.

815
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:30.239
Yeah.

816
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:37.880
Yeah, can we talk real quick about Smokey's decor? You

817
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.519
know you want that furniture, especially like that thron that

818
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.519
throne that I did a throw.

819
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.119
I'm a single guy, I can have a throne. Yeah,

820
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:48.440
why not?

821
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:49.760
Yeah?

822
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:50.360
Uh?

823
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.239
Sweet and low was used on camera, as you know

824
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.320
for the coke and I you know that's that often.

825
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.800
You know, most most film sets will use sweet and low.

826
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.039
They'll use powdered sugar.

827
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.079
But according to are these.

828
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.400
People actually sniffing? Am I supposed to believe they were

829
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.440
actually sniffing sweet and low up their nose?

830
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.199
Back in the day they would do that. No, oh no,

831
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:13.920
I wouldn't either.

832
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.920
But back in the day, you know before like there's

833
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.239
a there's all, there's plenty of tricks.

834
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.039
Now you know where you can, you can it looks

835
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:20.639
like you're doing it.

836
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.000
But back then it's like, well, this is not gonna

837
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.800
hurt you. It's it's a little sugar, a little sweetener or whatever.

838
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:33.119
So I don't, Amber, they're throwing chairs and and real cocaine.

839
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:36.519
That's not that's a thing. It's that's a thing.

840
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:42.880
Well, so you see kitel and that's in that he's

841
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.159
actually it's sweet and low. But it doesn't matter because

842
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.079
off camera he's doing the real thing.

843
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.239
Straighter. Strader kind of calls them all out. He's like, yeah,

844
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:52.000
they were all.

845
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.480
They're doing real coke in between takes, So they were

846
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.400
high on cocaine as they were performing as characters high coking.

847
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.639
She just wonder like, how did anybody survive?

848
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:09.800
I mean, wow, method acting at its finest. Yeah, I don't.

849
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.599
I don't really believe that you're high on coke. But

850
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.480
you know, he just do a bump and then uh.

851
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.559
We'll see how you do. He'll be You'll be great.

852
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.960
Next scene, Amber, I'm calling this the pivotal moment the

853
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:25.119
blackmail plan, deciding what to do with the ledger. So

854
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.800
they have robbed, you know, they they break into the vault.

855
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.599
There's not ship in there. And and by the way,

856
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.199
can we talk briefly about the pitiful disguises that they wore.

857
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:42.559
That was so funny. I was crying, Yeah, because they're.

858
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:43.199
They're the plot.

859
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.559
They're plodding in the car, like, should we get some masks?

860
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:46.760
How about bandanas?

861
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:47.079
And try?

862
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:48.840
Richard PR's like, if we get caught, I'm not going

863
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.800
downtown looking like some goddamn cowboy.

864
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.239
And yet, well and then you see him in like

865
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.920
the novelty store, and I did not get what he

866
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:57.519
was buying.

867
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.000
I was, well, his kids, like he's in the toy ile.

868
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.199
Oh, He's like, yeah, give me, but like his kid

869
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.039
had like the Google eyeglasses.

870
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.400
He's, yeah, give me those. Well they show up.

871
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.480
So one's wearing googly eyes, like the eyeballs that kind

872
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.480
of spring out of the out of the glasses.

873
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.159
Harvard Ye Tell's wearing X ray specs.

874
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.480
He's got an arrow to his head, you know, the

875
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.039
Steve Martin arrow through the head trick.

876
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:20.519
And then Richard Pryor's got.

877
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.000
Like these like monster teeth and one of those like

878
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.239
little stupid caps with the propeller.

879
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.840
Yes, these are your these are your costumes.

880
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.239
That was hilarious. It was the fact that they only

881
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.480
ended up stealing, like there was only like five hundred

882
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:39.039
bucks in there.

883
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:40.199
Yeah, five six hundred bucks.

884
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.199
But then the union said they got away with ten grand.

885
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.000
Yeah, and they get this legend, right, so they get

886
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:51.599
the ledger that shows all this dirty uh dirty money

887
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.800
that the union's doing with Vegas and you know bookies

888
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.000
and loan sharks and the mafia.

889
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.840
Well, and they're sticking it to the people in the

890
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.159
union too because they're taking they're giving loans, but they're

891
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:08.360
charging people like thirteen percent. Yeah, so you might as

892
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:09.280
well go to lunch chark.

893
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.840
Yeah. I love I love the idea.

894
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.599
It's like, okay, well we did all this for six

895
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.159
hundred bucks, but what if the real prize is the ledger?

896
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.679
You know, they'll pay big money for this and they

897
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.559
start dreaming big And I love this is the moment,

898
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.079
like you you know, we said Smoke is the voice

899
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:24.480
of reason.

900
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:25.039
Yep.

901
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:26.599
I love that he This is the moment where he

902
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:30.280
explains how everyone is made to be pitted against each other,

903
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.440
you know, old verse young white versus black, powerful powerful dialogue.

904
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:38.800
Oh and the way he delivers it is just he's

905
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:39.880
speaking the truth.

906
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.360
And that's exactly what the company wants. To keep you

907
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.480
on the line. They'll do anything to keep you on

908
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.920
their line. They pit their life is against the new boys,

909
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.679
old against the young the black against the white everybody

910
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:52.920
to keep us at our place.

911
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:55.519
I mean, can't you understand.

912
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.480
That that one piece of dialogue told me this is

913
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.440
the most import and part of the movie. This is

914
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.840
this is where they are gonna make the decision that's

915
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.599
ultimately going to you know, see them successful or see

916
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.800
them end up in tragedy.

917
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:12.320
Well, and he was the one too that was like,

918
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.599
you know what, well, I just cut our losses and

919
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.719
get rid of it. We didn't get caught.

920
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.239
Yeah, yeah, And that kind of that that scenes kind

921
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.360
of telling because it tells you, Okay, if anyone's not

922
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.519
gonna gonna win, probably gonna be him.

923
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:29.519
Yeah, because he's the nice guy.

924
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.280
He's the nice guy. He's the one he's he's the

925
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:33.000
voice of reason.

926
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.960
So speaking of a Smoky, next scene, I want to

927
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.960
talk about Smoky taking care of the thugs at Jerry's house.

928
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:42.519
Oh my god, when he hit that guy with the bat,

929
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:44.280
like I felt it in my leg.

930
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:45.599
Ouch.

931
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.400
Did you know that the average speed of a baseball

932
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.719
batswing is seventy two miles an hour If you're if

933
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:56.400
you're if you're a major league baseball player.

934
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.599
Because because I know stuff, I know, because I know

935
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:01.719
because I know.

936
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.039
Things, but like you could also just say anything, I'd

937
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.280
be like, really, you can.

938
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.679
Look it up. I looked it up. I confirmed it.

939
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.000
It sounds it sounds accurate.

940
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:12.880
Well, you and when you see someone get hit with

941
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.639
the back, like you know, and this this hurts, Like

942
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.400
he just keeps because like he's he's like jabb.

943
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.119
At him like rib pokes.

944
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:22.800
But then he's like and then he's giving him like

945
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.559
the what what men fear as the testicle tap?

946
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.639
You know, you don't.

947
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.280
Really realize how big Yaffat Koto is until he's like

948
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:35.679
looming over these guys.

949
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:37.920
Yeah, I mean, this is two thugs that are coming

950
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:41.960
to rough up Jerry. And I don't know, I.

951
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:43.480
Just dig the fact that, like we talked about these

952
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.400
are these guys really friends or are they just work buddies.

953
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.320
But this is a situation where he's he is going,

954
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.840
he's putting himself in harm's way to take care of

955
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.719
of Jerry's family.

956
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:54.880
And I thought that was really cool.

957
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:56.599
I love and I love that he didn't. He didn't

958
00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.320
he didn't scare the wife. You know, he kind of

959
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.239
the white lie. Hey, Hey, you know Jerry split his

960
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:02.119
pants and he's embarrassed.

961
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:03.880
You gotta go. You gotta leave the house right now. Yeah,

962
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.840
I thought that was you know, I'm gonna say, yaf

963
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.239
at coda.

964
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.800
My favorite my favorite character is, you know, my favorite

965
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.159
actor in the movie, my favorite.

966
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.119
Character in the movie. One last scene I want to

967
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:14.559
talk about.

968
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.559
And then I got to ask you what what your

969
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:19.320
pivotal moment is, because I told you mine was all

970
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.119
about the Ledger the blackmail plan, and you were.

971
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.920
Like, well yeah, but you didn't say like, oh yeah,

972
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.480
I'm me too. So we're gonna get to yours. Uh.

973
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.039
One last scene I want to talk about. Zeke tells

974
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.239
Jerry about taking the shop Stewart position.

975
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.360
See that was fine, is it your okay? Okay? I

976
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:34.639
like that.

977
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:36.559
I like that we're ending on on your pivotal moment.

978
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.079
Tell us about tell us about this pivotal moment, you.

979
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.719
Know, Zeke. They each get they each end up going

980
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:47.920
in different directions. Zeke takes the direction of you know

981
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.599
what I'm taking. I'm going with the Union and I'm

982
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.639
gonna take the little pay bump that they're giving me.

983
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:59.320
I'm gonna take the little you know, raising position that

984
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:03.679
they're giving me. And you know, Smokey's gone. There's nothing

985
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.920
we can do for him, so I gotta take care

986
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:13.719
of me. When he tells Jerry that, I, oh my goodness.

987
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.400
Here's why this scene is really really good and it's

988
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:19.320
one and it's a great moment.

989
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.119
For Richard Pryor. Like we talked about him doing some.

990
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:25.280
Really good acting, this is one of those moments where

991
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.880
he's just he's just telling it like it is because

992
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.400
because Jerry is passionate, Hey, let's get these guys.

993
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.559
They they they they killed, they killed Smoky. You know,

994
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.079
we gotta we gotta get them.

995
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.840
And You're you're laying down, man, you're taking this bullshit

996
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:42.639
that you know they're corrupt.

997
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.199
And I love his line though he's looking.

998
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.559
Right at him and he's just like, Jerry, you're my friend,

999
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.880
but you're thinking white and it's like whoa, you know.

1000
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.440
And then when he lays out like how how it

1001
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:00.239
is and you can't you know, it's it's a great moment.

1002
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.159
It's a great scene, but it's also it breaks my

1003
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:04.880
heart a little bit because it's one of those situations

1004
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.079
where this is nineteen seventy eight and it's like the

1005
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.159
more things change, the more they say the same yep.

1006
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.440
Right, Well, and Richard Pryor really sells the layers of

1007
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.719
you know, I gotta do what I gotta do, but

1008
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.480
also like there's a little bit of self loathing in

1009
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:25.800
there there, you know, because he knows it's a terrible

1010
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.840
choice no matter what choice he makes. Yeah, but he's

1011
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.000
going to come out worse than Harvey kai tell Is

1012
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:34.440
he goes against the union.

1013
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.719
Yeah, absolutely, And he's got a family to think about.

1014
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.559
You know, we talked about the party scene and he's

1015
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.400
he's lamenting about all the things.

1016
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.039
Yeah, six kids, they keep multiplying.

1017
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.000
He's lamenting about all the things that he promised his

1018
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.159
wife that he knows he'll never be able to provide.

1019
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.000
And now he's got you know, he's given a position

1020
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.719
that's seventeen grand a year and this that's nineteen seventy eight.

1021
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:55.639
That's pretty impressive.

1022
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:59.239
Yes, you know, and he was never going to get

1023
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.199
any kind of promotion or this is the only way.

1024
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.119
This is his shot. And you know that.

1025
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.559
Kept talking about you're lucky you even have a job.

1026
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.559
Like when I came here, Oh yeah, black people didn't

1027
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.000
even work at this factory.

1028
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.360
Oh yeah, the one the one union.

1029
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.000
That's like Lane Smith's boss or whatever.

1030
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:24.880
Yeah, yeah, that I sucked too.

1031
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:27.320
Yeah.

1032
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:28.400
Well, let's I'll tell you what.

1033
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.239
Let's let's take one more break and then we'll start

1034
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:30.840
wrapping this up.

1035
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.480
Okay, welcome back.

1036
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:40.480
We've been talking about Paul Schrader's directorial debut, Blue Collar Amber.

1037
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.400
I got to bring up our friend David Burns one

1038
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:47.920
more time, because as much as he dislikes Clifty Young,

1039
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.599
he absolutely loathes the freeze frame ending.

1040
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:59.079
Oh, so many movies, so many movies in the seventies

1041
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.400
and early these gave us that freeze frame ending. And

1042
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.880
I'm it kind of sucks, but I just.

1043
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:10.039
Wasn't it rocky too? Didn't they do it?

1044
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:10.440
Yeah?

1045
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.719
But hold on rock There's We're not gonna say anything

1046
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:17.440
wrong about any of the Rockies unless it's rock. But

1047
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.079
I digress. I want to talk about the freeze frame ending.

1048
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.679
So first off, my first, my first question to you,

1049
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:26.679
how do you how do you feel about free frame

1050
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.079
innings like especially one like this? This ending is kind

1051
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.599
of it ends on such a down note.

1052
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:33.079
Were you ready for that?

1053
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.119
No? I was not ready for the way it ended.

1054
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:40.840
I was. I thought I was gonna kind of just

1055
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:41.639
fizzle out.

1056
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:43.079
Well I'm not.

1057
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:48.159
I'm not overly thrilled with with how it ends, and

1058
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:53.639
I'm definitely not thrilled with the uh the insane escalation

1059
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:56.920
of Harvey Kite, of Harvey k Tell's racism.

1060
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.239
Yeah nowhere, Like he's right in the N word and

1061
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.400
like that just kind of came out of nowhere.

1062
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:03.880
Yeah.

1063
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.480
So there's minor you know, like there's there's a little

1064
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.119
bit of racism kind of pepper throughout the movie. Yeah,

1065
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.239
and you're like, Okay, I get yeah, it's it's it's

1066
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.719
nineteen seventy eight, it's the inner City. It's like whatever,

1067
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.480
we get it. You know, it's different back then. It

1068
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.880
wasn't right, but it was different, right, But for kay

1069
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:21.599
Tell to kind of fly off the handle the way

1070
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.719
he does, and when you know that they've been buddies,

1071
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.920
you know, their kids are playing together and their wives

1072
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.360
are talking and they're going bowling together, it was a

1073
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.880
little jarring, I guess, right.

1074
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.000
Yeah, I mean I don't know, I don't know that

1075
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.000
it felt like an authentic fight, Like I just thought

1076
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:40.519
they'd be like if you.

1077
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.719
No, yeah, well I just you know, and listen, he's

1078
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:48.800
not he's not alone in the in the race. Because

1079
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.280
Richard Pryor is getting pretty racist too towards him. I

1080
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.719
just I don't know, it just felt like it went

1081
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:58.360
way over the line, like immediately, yeah, which was kind

1082
00:53:58.360 --> 00:53:58.679
of weird.

1083
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.599
And then we get this freeze from Mening.

1084
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.960
That is like the end of of Rocky three, where

1085
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.119
you know, punches are getting are flying.

1086
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:11.239
Well, I'd like Richard Pryor had like like a tool

1087
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.840
in his hand or something or something.

1088
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.519
Yeah, pipe or pipe wrench or something like that. My

1089
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.679
question to you, so, what what happened next? In your

1090
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:20.760
in your opinion, like.

1091
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.000
How where's where do these characters end up at the

1092
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:28.199
end of the day, I mean someone going to jail. Gosh,

1093
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.920
I don't know, right, it's it's all hearsay.

1094
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:38.039
Yeah, I would think that, uh, Harvey Kaitel probably ends

1095
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.320
up just working at the gas station full time because

1096
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:45.320
he's not getting a job anywhere after, you know, he

1097
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.559
goes to the FEDS, and I bet Richard Pryor like

1098
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:49.719
stays at the factory.

1099
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:51.400
So everyone gets away with it.

1100
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.039
It's like I know that, you know that. I know

1101
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:56.599
that you know. So nobody's ever going to say anything.

1102
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:01.159
No one, no justice, Amber is what you're thinking. All right, Well,

1103
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:06.119
let's talk. Let's get back to Paul Schroder. If someone

1104
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:10.360
was unfamiliar with his work as a director, which three

1105
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:12.719
films would you suggest that they watch?

1106
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.280
I have no idea because this is literally the only

1107
00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:20.280
movie that he's directed that I've seen.

1108
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:21.800
All Right, well, then i'll help you.

1109
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:26.519
Although I'm very intrigued about The Card Counter with Oscar Isaac.

1110
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.440
I will watch Oscar Isaac anything.

1111
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.760
Well, you're okay, I mean, sure, watch it.

1112
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.760
You're watching it for the wrong reasons, but you know what,

1113
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.679
I didn't watch Barb Weier because it was an awesome

1114
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.119
action movie that I had Pamela Anderson at the height.

1115
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:43.880
Of her Are you Are you saying that The Card

1116
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.239
Counter is on equality?

1117
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:51.559
I'm not. I'm saying watch what you want. But hey,

1118
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:52.760
I'll tell you what we'll we'll play.

1119
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:54.719
I mean, I could talk for days about the movies

1120
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:55.440
he's written.

1121
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.639
Well, yeah, but no, that's not the that's not the rule.

1122
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.119
You know, that's not That's not the question. The question is,

1123
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.039
if they're unfamiliar with him as a director, which three

1124
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:08.239
films would you suggest they watch? So obviously you could

1125
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.280
tell people to watch Blue Collar so you get one

1126
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:14.280
that's here. You're unfamiliar with him as a director, So

1127
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.480
let me help you. I'll give you my three Okay.

1128
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.000
So the following year, in nineteen seventy nine, he does

1129
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.599
a film called Hardcore.

1130
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:23.360
Not Watching Anything.

1131
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.880
Hold On, okay, hold on, hold on, let me, let me,

1132
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:29.679
let me, let me, let me land the plane here

1133
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:33.199
because you're already you hear that word and you're like nope,

1134
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.039
and you know it's a seventies movie and you're like nope.

1135
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:36.920
But listen, George C.

1136
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.280
Scott, like you've never seen him before. Okay, he's uh,

1137
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.440
he's you know, we're in the Midwest, the Bible Belt whatever,

1138
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.199
hard working man. He's got the wonderful wife and the

1139
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.760
kids and you know, little you know, Daddy's daddy's little girl,

1140
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.800
sixteen year old girl. She goes on a field trip,

1141
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:58.239
doesn't come back. He goes looking for in Los Angeles

1142
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.119
and it kind of takes him to the CD underworld

1143
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.039
of the porn industry and he kind of goes undercover

1144
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.119
at you know, trying to trying to ease his way

1145
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.119
into the business, like he's a producer, just so he

1146
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.599
can get information, and like he's like becoming he becomes

1147
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.239
he basically becomes a detective. He's like a furniture salesman

1148
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:19.880
who just goes full on Paul Cursey death wish style

1149
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.639
to find out where his daughter is. And because what

1150
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.280
happens is he hires a you know, I'm not giving

1151
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:25.719
anything away.

1152
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:26.639
You'd see this in the Trails.

1153
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.920
He hires a private investigator and the p I comes

1154
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.320
back and says, you're not gonna be happy about this,

1155
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:38.920
and he arranges for dad to see where his daughter

1156
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.159
ended up in a film ew and you get this.

1157
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:44.079
This is the seventies, so it's not like you could

1158
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.679
rent it or stream it. It's you had to go

1159
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.440
to a ya.

1160
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:51.880
And George C. Scott.

1161
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.119
It's such a heartbreaking moment because he's like turn it off,

1162
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.639
you know, like and then but he goes full on,

1163
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.920
like vigilanti mode to find his daughter and to save

1164
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:03.480
her and get her get.

1165
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:07.079
Her unfortunate title. Couldn't they have called it anything else?

1166
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.480
Well, I mean you could look at as like his

1167
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.639
reaction was hardcore. You know, his vengeance was hardcore.

1168
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:13.760
So.

1169
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:18.519
You gotta check it out. In the eighties, he did

1170
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:19.639
a movie called Cat People.

1171
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:21.000
Paul Strader.

1172
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.599
I remember hearing about it when I was a kid

1173
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.480
and was like, what they turned into cats? I don't know.

1174
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.199
I think you might like this one.

1175
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.880
This is this is you know, this is this is

1176
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:36.599
a I'm going on a ledge here. Oh yeah, it's

1177
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.400
like erotic horror Natasha Kinsky.

1178
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:40.880
Oh, like like The Hunger.

1179
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.519
Okay, you're you're in the right neighborhood, like the hun

1180
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:46.760
The Hunger probably lives down the.

1181
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.440
Block from cat People. Yeah, so it's like they're they're

1182
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:51.079
cat people.

1183
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.239
These people they have to mate with other cat people

1184
00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:01.280
to maintain their humanistic look, otherwise they turn into panthers.

1185
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.119
And I know you're like, what kind of batchit crazy

1186
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.400
talk is this? But it's the eighties, it's erotic, it's

1187
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:09.119
a thriller.

1188
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:14.679
It's Natasha Kinski and everyone looked, yeah, and everyone loves

1189
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:19.039
that that David Bowie song putting out the Fires. Yes, okay,

1190
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:22.800
so remember you heard it in qt's Inglorious Bastards.

1191
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.239
Mm hm that was awesome. But that song comes from

1192
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:32.480
this movie Cat People. Never Yeah, check out Cat People.

1193
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:33.599
I think I think you'll dig it.

1194
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.800
You're selling man cool.

1195
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:37.000
Let me give you.

1196
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.760
Let me give you one last Paul Schrader film nineteen

1197
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:41.360
ninety seven.

1198
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:43.880
He he does affliction. This is the one.

1199
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:48.599
Nick Nolty gets an Oscar nomination. Yeah, I remember, when's

1200
00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:49.960
the when's the Oscar?

1201
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:50.760
Uh?

1202
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.159
You got Sissy SpaceX. It's he's Nick Nolty.

1203
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:56.440
This is like prime Nick Nolty, where he's he's moved

1204
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.159
into the grizzled Nick Nolty.

1205
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.679
You know, the god God damn that guy.

1206
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.280
Yeah, he's like a grizzled cop with a lot of

1207
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.400
problems in a small town. He's trying to investigate a

1208
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.400
hunting accident, like a death. Yeah, okay, a lot of

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01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.119
a lot of Oscar heat around it. Really strong, strong performances.

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01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:16.760
It's I'll say.

1211
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:22.000
This, it's Nick Nolty's second best dramatic performance because he

1212
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.079
will never do anything better than when he played uh

1213
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.920
the Father in a Warrior with Tom Hardy and Joey Driton.

1214
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.320
That's that's the best. That's that's the top spot for

1215
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:41.960
Nick Nlty in my opinion. But Affliction the Ember, we

1216
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:46.480
we recommend seeing hardcore, I recommend seeing hardcourse, we recommend

1217
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:47.440
seeing blue collar though.

1218
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:53.400
Oh my gosh, yes, I was so pleasantly surprised.

1219
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.639
Pleasantly surprised in the regard that, uh, you know, be

1220
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.480
mindful that you will hear some controversy.

1221
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:01.360
Your language, which we addressed.

1222
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.960
Yes, and it's hard on the unions. I mean it's

1223
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:10.280
a complicated situation and you know, no organization is perfect.

1224
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:16.320
And this definitely tells some truth about dealing with unions

1225
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:20.639
and dealing with management that you know, it makes you wins,

1226
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:22.239
but it's.

1227
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.760
See you you really you have the experience, so I

1228
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.719
and I don't. So I'm glad that you're you're able

1229
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.880
to speak to that. Uh. And also I'll point this out,

1230
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:33.719
just because you see Richard Pryor on the poster or

1231
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:37.639
on the DVD cover or on the image wherever you're

1232
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.320
going to stream it, don't don't expect this as a

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01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:40.800
comedy because it's it's not.

1234
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:41.119
No.

1235
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.360
I mean, we laughed in a couple of spots, but yeah,

1236
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:46.719
this is an intense movie.

1237
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:47.639
Yeah.

1238
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.320
Well I'm curious, Uh, listeners, what do you think of

1239
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.880
blue Collar and Paul Schrader's work.

1240
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:54.960
Uh?

1241
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:58.360
We know we know listener, Josh Avery loves this one. Uh,

1242
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.840
but do you you know how you seen it? Did

1243
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.159
we get this one wrong? You can let us know

1244
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.199
on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x.

1245
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.039
You can check out a film by podcast dot com

1246
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.079
for all of our episodes that are streaming free. Well

1247
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.199
not all the Patreon ones obviously, Amber, but you know

1248
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.159
you gotta pay. You gotta pay for some stuff, right Uh.

1249
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.000
And you can write to us at a film by

1250
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:23.800
podcast at gmail dot com, much the way Josh Avery did. Uh.

1251
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:24.719
You can give us your.

1252
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.679
Questions, your comments, and your concerns. We may just read

1253
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:29.840
your response on the show and send you some a

1254
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:34.280
film by swag. Once again, we gotta thank Josh Avery

1255
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.840
and Amber. We owe him an apology. Like I said,

1256
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.840
this was last year he wrote to us.

1257
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:41.360
He told us, you know, I know, I know, we

1258
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.920
send him some some of our film by stuff. Yeah,

1259
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:44.519
you know, I.

1260
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:46.199
Actually we send him some stuff that we like. You

1261
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:47.480
have to be on Patreon to get. But you know

1262
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.000
it's like, you know what, I like that. I liked

1263
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.039
his suggestions, and I was like, all right, thanks for

1264
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:55.400
thanks for hooking us up here. But you know this,

1265
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:59.320
you know, sometimes we have the schedules planned out months

1266
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:03.480
in advance. This one, this one got away from us.

1267
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.360
But we put out that survey last year at the

1268
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.039
end of last year. Yes, people, people, and we got

1269
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:09.239
a lot.

1270
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:10.800
We're gonna have to go over that stuff. I gotta

1271
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:11.679
tell you, there's some.

1272
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.400
Really amazing ideas from a lot of our listeners in there.

1273
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.719
But Josh was good enough to do the survey for us,

1274
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:18.960
so he had a lot of a lot of great

1275
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.599
things to say. But he also made it a point

1276
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:24.599
to remind us that he was still waiting to hear

1277
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:25.840
the Blue Collar episodes.

1278
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.360
So Josh, I hope you're listening. This one's for you, bro,

1279
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:31.519
This one was for you. We hope you enjoyed it.

1280
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:35.840
We we absolutely look forward to your response, your feedback.

1281
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:40.760
And uh, I wouldn't uh, I wouldn't be putting it

1282
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.199
putting it up past you if you know, if you

1283
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.519
took a year to get to us.

1284
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.079
You know, wait, what what what are you gonna do? Amber? Right?

1285
01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:52.000
Yep, Well listen, I'm glad you joined me again. You're

1286
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.360
you're joining me a lot and I did that. So yeah,

1287
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:55.719
are you doing?

1288
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.920
Are you doing? You're doing something with me next week?

1289
01:03:58.360 --> 01:03:59.119
Right Saturday?

1290
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:04.760
Saturday? Oh yeah, we got Hanted Honeymoon, Haunted Honeymoon for.

1291
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:10.679
Lost eighty six episodes. Amber, there's waiting for this left

1292
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.639
for so long, Josh, I know how you feel. I've

1293
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:15.000
been waiting for like over a.

1294
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.039
Year yes, Jo yeah, a year ago.

1295
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.360
Amber was like, why aren't we doing Haunted Honeymoon. I

1296
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.599
was like, we will, and then uh, and then we didn't.

1297
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:26.880
And then we got to the lost episodes of eighty

1298
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.519
six and she's like, all right, another shot, Okay, we'll

1299
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:30.039
get to it.

1300
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.559
And then Halloween passed and she was like, what the

1301
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:39.480
hell right? Never Lewis version is hell yeah.

1302
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.599
But no Amber, Much to your delight, I think, much

1303
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:47.280
to the delight of many of our Patreon listeners, Haunted

1304
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:51.760
Honeymoon will be streaming this Saturday on Patreon. So uh,

1305
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.559
for those of you that are with us on Patreon,

1306
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:56.760
get ready for that. For those of you that aren't,

1307
01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:59.880
Amber might be a good time to sign up for

1308
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.480
a free free week.

1309
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.199
You can do a free week. Sign up, get a

1310
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.079
free trial. If you don't like it, cancel it.

1311
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:09.320
I love it.

1312
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:10.320
You're gonna love it.

1313
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.360
If you don't like it, but you don't if you

1314
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:13.880
if you love it and you don't but you don't

1315
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.639
want to pay for it, get in there.

1316
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.719
Just download everything. There's like, what are we got like

1317
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:19.639
twenty thirty episodes?

1318
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.480
There now probably more, there's video episodes. Get in there

1319
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.039
and just download it all, and then get out.

1320
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:25.679
I don't know there.

1321
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:26.960
You work the system.

1322
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:28.360
I should, yeah, work the system.

1323
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:30.079
You should that.

1324
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:34.039
Be like Richard Pryor and blue collar you know, yes,

1325
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.239
threw those corporate upfilmed by guys and all that. Yeah. No,

1326
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:41.559
I'm kidding. Yeah. I amber always a.

1327
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.840
Pleasure and uh to all of you out there listening

1328
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.800
to the show, following us on social media, subscribing to

1329
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:52.159
our Patreon, downloading it for a free week, and then

1330
01:05:52.199 --> 01:06:01.679
getting back the house, we thank you, yes, thank you.