Phasers Set To Stun: recapping Discovery: Face the Strange

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course, as always, is your
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I'm David Burns, and I'm Wayne
Whiten. All right, and thanks for

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joining me again. Guys. We're
continuing our bridge of the newest voyages in

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this franchise with Star Trek Discovery Season
five, the final season. Today we're

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covering episode four, Face the Strange. Before we get too much further.

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Black Alert spoilers ahead. If you
haven't seen the latest episode, please go

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and check it out before you come
back to join us. Dave, let's

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talk about the latest episode. Can
you remind us what happened? In this

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one, yeah, absolutely, As
you said. This episode four Face the

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Strange, written by Sean Cochran and
directed by le Rhodes. Burnham, Rayner,

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and Statements are caught in a time
bug that has been placed by Mole

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and Lock, warping them back and
forth between different periods of time on the

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Discovery. It is up to all
three of them to figure out how to

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make this stop in between the constant
time fluctuations avoid making any changes to their

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future, and they must do it
quickly as they are still racing to beat

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Mole and Lock to uncover the ultimate
mystery. All right, let me start

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off with you, Wade, what
were your first impressions of this one?

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Uh, I really liked this episode. I think so far my favorite because

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there's a lot to like in the
episode. You know, I thought the

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pacing, the editing, the directing
of the episode was fantastic. But really

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it all boils down to three things, and that's the characterizations of Burnham,

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Rayner and Stammets, which, I
this is their story and I thought they

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were fantastic in this episode. You
know, it really showed how far these

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characters have grown since their first appearance. And you know, we get to

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see a lot of different timelines and
them in those timelines of Discovery. You

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know, the whole production was just
was fantastic, you know, the way

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they recreated, uh, the individual
timelines, that's that's kudos to the different

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departments working on on this. Plus
we got to see some new some old

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characters come back. You know,
it's a great episode. I'll just leave

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it at that. Yeah, I
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It didn't seem like anything was wasted
in this one. Didn't feel like anything

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was out of place, and it
definitely wasn't what I was expecting from last

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week's trailer with the creepy spider crawling
over all over the place exactly. I

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am going to go ahead and say
that I called it last week because I

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was saying at one point they should
do a clip show, and they did

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the best way of doing a clip
show that I've ever seen. Like they

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go back into all these periods,
we're uh revisiting a lot of key points

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in Discovery, But there wasn't any
Like I said, it didn't seem like

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there was any kind of wasted scenes, right, useless exposition because they had

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this neat little rewind button that got
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a lot of time to spend too
much, too much scenery in any one

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kind of time period. So one
of those This is one of those episodes

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that like, once it started,
it was over with before I realized it,

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because I was so involved in the
story and what was going on and

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how they were going to get out
of it that I completely off track of

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time. And this is so far
is their best episode this season with that

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without question, definitely agree. Yeah, and there's so many good scenes in

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this episode. But I gotta tell
you, I might give away what I'm

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gonna talk about at the end,
but Rainer really stole stole the show on

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this one. I thought he was
fantastic in this episode. But one of

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the scenes that I absolutely loved was
Burnham getting on the turtle lift and Linus

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was getting in there with her and
he looks at her and you get this

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awkward, like few seconds of like
what's gonna happen here? And you look

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good and red, Yeah, red
really is your color color. There were

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a lot of good funny moments.
I love the different ways Stamments used to

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to get everybody out of engineering,
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I'm grumpy. I laugh. I'd
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Came in and yelled that that was
a great callback. I like how they

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they kind of made fun of the
franchise in a way at some point when

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he was like, get out,
there's a spore overload or something. You'll

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grow mushrooms in your lungs, and
he's like, I'm kind of worried that

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my team doesn't know that that's a
thing that's going to just be a scientific

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exposition. Even that first scene with
mullum Lock, I think the poisoned Latinum

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was very clever. I didn't see
that coming, but it gives us a

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little bit more of a look at
the two of them who feel like they're

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on the run, that they've got
history with the Emerald chain, and it

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seemed kind of interesting that they was
it them who mentioned the Breen Yeah again

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right, which makes me think that
maybe Locke isn't Breen. Possibly. I

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mean, it could be that he's
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but they definitely have connections somehow,
because they've mentioned it every episode so

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far this season. I mean,
if they don't come or don't show up,

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I don't know what they're leading to. Yeah. Now, I was

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just gonna say, I think it'd
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if they finally do see the Breen. The Breen take off their helmet and

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they all look like carry Fisher.
Yeah, because it looks like Busch hel

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ed Fisher closed. I want to
I do want to call it another really

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cool transition from when I'm all withholding
that. Uh and it transitioned into the

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spider scrambling. Yes, that was
a really cool transition. They are editing

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these episodes, I tell you what. They are so good at it.

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Yeah, very efficient. Yeah,
And I have to the only nitpick I

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really have for this episode and this
this actually made me laugh. I found

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this to be one of the funnier
parts of this episode is those transporters.

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Did Burnham and Rayner really transport into
the next room to have a conver station?

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I mean it's like thirty feet away? Come on, now, how

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lazy is that? I mean,
what's wrong with the door? Doesn't it

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work anymore? I mean Wayne,
I literally yelled at the TV when that

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happens, like, are you ever
that lazy? Really? Yeah? And

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it feels like if they had not
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they would have been in this predicament, right exactly. It just seems

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so silly. We finally saw those
transporters backfire on them, right, like,

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maybe stop otherwise this is like five
years before the future we see in

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up with by and large, and
everybody's just these giant, overgrown babies to

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float around in chairs and don't have
any exercise whatsoever. Yeah, it was

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also great to see some moments that
we haven't necessarily seen before, like Discovery

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being built but in the dry dock. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

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That was That was a cool moment
and it was well handled. To say

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to the guy like, oh,
it's a surprising inspection. He's like,

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okay, well, everything's fine.
Fine. Lot that they were building Discovery

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on in San Francisco, I mean
right there and you could see the Golden

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Gate Bridge. I mean, I
don't know exactly what was going on back

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then. What was the twenty third
century? How were they held they put

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ships and stuff, But it just
seems odd that they woul build their ships

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on the planet. But you know, all right, I'll accept it.

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Yeah, it's because they had to
get all the mushrooms from the Planet Girl

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as many as they could in San
Francisco. There were there. There's a

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line in there that really made me
laugh with when Rayner and Burnon were talking

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and they found themselves on the bridge
when they're the Red Angel, you know,

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yeah, and he looked at you. So we're going back in time

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when the Discovery was going into the
future. That is confusing, Yes,

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yeah, yeah, I thought that
was an odd an odd choice, but

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you know, he did a good
job with that. I like that we're

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seeing more of the Rainer and Burnham
dynamic, yes, yeah, and seeing

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how they play off of each other, especially that line of dialogue where he

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says, but what if I'm right? Mm hmmm. I think that's going

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to be very useful in the future
to see how he's kind of a foil

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for that. Yeah, but still, you know, not changing the dynamic,

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but just in introducing an element that
helps it go a little bit further

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than it was before. But it
really helped his character grow here because remember

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the last episode where he just had
the you know, give me, give

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me who you are in twenty words
less you know, he was listening.

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He does know his crew because look
what happens in this episode towards the end.

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It gets him out of the past
Burnham. Yeah, you know,

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he basically told them who they were
and how he knew them, and that's

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how he got out of it.
So he does care. Yeah, that's

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exactly what I was what I was
going to say too. I mean,

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you know, he there's so much
character development with him. You know,

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he really has learned a lot about
Burnham, and there's been a big change

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in their relationship and the way he
looks at the crew. Huge stuff for

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the character. Yeah. Yeah,
and then we've got a third time traveler

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Stametz. Yep. I thought the
explanation gave me kind of a mystery science

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theater, you know, I should
really just relax and enjoy the show.

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But when they said, oh,
he's outside of the time stream because of

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the mushrooms, and I was like, I'll give you a pass on that

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because I don't understand the signs well
enough to say no. But it's been

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a confusing science in the first place. But yeah, i'll excite we will

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allow it. Yeah, exactly,
But no, he had some great moments.

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I loved when he met Reno at
that one point and she comes up

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to and she's like, hey,
doctor, doctor Truffles, I knew that

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thing that I asked for, and
then calls him on it and says like,

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are you stuck in a time loop? Just kidding your fine A.

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Reno is awesome in herself. I
love the character of Reno, and I

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know that character plays that character,
that actor plays that character a lot,

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but I don't care because she does
it so extremely well and anytime he's on

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screen, I know we're in for
a treat. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

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I've liked Reno from the first episode. That was an incredible episode,

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Like keeping those people alive, the
way they did absolutely amazing. And it

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was nice to see the character of
Arriam again. You know, we haven't

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seen her since her character is killed
off in season two. But I got

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to tell you the way Burnham just
just comes out and says, you know,

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oh you're dead. You know you
talk about ripping the band aid off.

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I mean Drake's yeah, yeah.
I mean she kind of was stuck

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in a corner there. I mean, she did the right choice, right,

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and I don't That's why I don't
take fault with it, because she

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didn't have a choice. I mean, time was running out they needed to

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just yeah, you know, so
just spit it out. Yeah, and

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that whole scene on the bridge where
she was talking to everybody like no one's

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wanting to believe her, you know, and you know she's basically having it

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out saying, look, you got
to listen to but you have to understand

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I am from the future, and
going on and on. I love that

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entire scene. Oh yeah, yeah, Well it's very clever to have that

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happened in the Lorca timeline, right
because I don't think at that point they

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knew about the mere universe Shenanians.
No, not at that point now,

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but considering what kind of things had
happened up to that point, it makes

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total sense that they would kind of
they wouldn't just believe it at face value,

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right, that they would, you
know, kind of suspected. I

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think it was a great use of
two Burnhams. That was a great scene.

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That was brilliant and such a contrast
between the two es. Yeah.

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Yeah, amazing performance by Sinequa Martin
green In there. It was kind of

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a surprise, and it it went
from an episode where it was like,

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well, don't interact with your past
selves or the universe will explode kind of

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the temporal that it. And then
at one point they were like, oh,

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well there's this thing and if we
go to warp it'll be fine,

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so just just go. It would
be QUI if we don't. But the

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fight sequence there, I thought was
was great. It would be of T

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two when you've got the two terminators
that kind of like, you know,

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they're surprised at how well matched they
both are, and then just and the

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whole thing with the nerve pinch.
I think that was a great call.

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Yeah, yea. And yeah,
the character of Rim, that's that standalone

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episode of AMS where you learn about
Ariam's backstory. I think it's a standout

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episode for Discovery. And to see
that character come back and be featured in

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this way and knowing that Ariam would
respond to what Michael was saying in that

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way is great writing. I mean, it's kind of shocking, and I'm

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glad that everything was wiped out because
that would be a therapy session for the

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entire Bridge crew. But yeah,
yeah, really that was the character.

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You know, it was very interesting. You know, I thought it would

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it could lately have led to a
really interesting character, but they never really

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done much with her, you know, until the final episode. It's a

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nice seeing her again. But yeah, it's a pity that we never got

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more of her to learn more about
her. Yeah, I agree. You

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know, it's always very interesting about
how each one of these Star Trek series

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always deal with some kind of time
travel or any anything like that. And

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I tell you, each one of
them has a unique way of telling us.

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So it never gets tired, it
never gets boring. Because I found

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this when I once I learned that
this was what was going to happen,

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that there's traveling through time. I'm
like, well, here we go again,

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We've got another story about time travel. My god, how many times

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have they done this? And Star
Trek without it exactly, But you know,

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it was very interesting to watch it
the fact that they were always on

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Discovery, they were just in just
different time periods with Discovery. But it

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was also the effect that they had
when the time was getting ready to change,

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how you know, that was such
a cool effect that they used to

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signal that was happening, and how
they she was able to figure out the

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how much time they had during each
period. That was really well, was

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well written. Yeah, it was
yeah, well, and I appreciated the

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jump to the future as well,
when it was just Zora and the nothing

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left on the bridge but dust right
and getting to see it doesn't go into

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specifics about what happened with the progenitor
technology, but how quickly things fell apart,

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and you know how devastating that can
be. And it gave them a

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look of what could happen if they
fail on their mission. Yep, right

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exactly, And another mention of the
breed. Yeah, the problem is with

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them getting in their hands. I
wonder how much of the Deep Space nine

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connection we'll get with that, you
know, if it gets further beyond the

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breed to dominion or anything else.
It's clearly where we're heading, right,

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because they cannot keep mentioning this and
it keeps coming up if they're not going

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to do something about it, right, Yeah, I agree? So yeah,

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yeah, Well, maybe the next
episode will be a cave episode.

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That seems to be what we're missing. We've done clips, we've done time

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table, what else? Yeah,
Oh, I'll bring that up later,

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you believe me. There is something
else, and I'm well, any other

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favorite moments, No, there's there's
just so many in this episode. I

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did like the whole episode. Yeah, the whole episode. I like took

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the end when they're like, you
think the crew is gonna understand this,

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and when she's like, with this
crew, I think they will get as

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soon as we say time bug.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That was

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a good line. Well, let's
get onto which character we felt shine of

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the most. Dave you want to
start, Yeah, I already gave mine

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away. Rayner, I feel like
he truly grew in this episode as a

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member of Discovery and with his relationship
with Burnham, and you know, talk

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about again where you know, even
though un Tillie didn't think he was understanding

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who the crew was or he wasn't
getting to know them, he does and

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he proved that in this episode.
And I think, you know that's why

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I picked him to be who I
thought shine the most in this episode.

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Yeah, Wayne, what about you? Yeah? I mentioned him too,

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But I agree with David Rayner.
I really do think he shined the most.

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And you know, this was a
two for with him Burnham really and

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uh, you know at the start, he's he's stubborn, he's hard headed.

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He mentions that he thinks Burnham's too
relaxed with her crew and he even

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goes too far when he's talking to
her and saying exactly what it's on his

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mind. But he had a lot
of character growth here in this episode when

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you know, he realizes just how
Burnham and his crew are, how effective

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they are working together, and he
gets to save the day by crushing the

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time bug the spider. So I
love him. Yeah, even that scene

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with the statements when he realized what
he was saying and doing and they oh,

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I better back down and help.
Just that moment with those two characters

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right there, it showed how much
Rainer has already grown. Yeah, I'm

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going to give this into Michael Burnham, both of them, because this was

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one where it's not Burnham leading the
away mission. It's Burnham truly as the

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captain of the ship. I think
that's something I've been wanting this season,

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is to see you know, Burnham
as the crux of that and being able

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to bring all different aspects of the
crew together. I think there was a

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great moment when we already talked about
when she's on the bridge and she she

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connects with so many different people,
Like when she says to wash Kun,

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you know, I don't want to
get that right cross again like I just

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did, because I don't lay me
out knowing how well can acted Michael is,

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but also seeing how far Michael has
come on the journey with seeing you

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know, proto Michael or whatever you
want to say. I think the acting

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range there was phenomenal because it seems
like Sneki just fell right back into character

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like it not a day had passed, and it really shows how far this

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character has come in the journey,
especially with how things were handled. There's

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a lot more maturity that you're seeing
there, and I think that was just

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a great spotlight for why Michael is
A is a great Captaine. And I

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got a lot of vibes with from
this episode in her character station, just

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like I did with all good things
in the card. Very very similar.

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You know, here we have a
case of the actress actor actor actress,

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the actor actress playing character seven years
later, very very similar and both were

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very very well done. Yeah,
absolutely agreed. Well, I'm gonna I'm

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gonna guess at this one, but
I want to hear it from you.

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If you could have been any character
in this episode, who would have been?

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And why Dave You're gonna start?
Yeah, I'm flipping the coin on

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this one, I'm going with Burnham
because she gets to explore her past again

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and she gets to fight herselves.
Come on, we all got him in

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there are sometimes we all wanted to
fight ourselves, true, So I had

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to feel, like, Wayne,
what about you. I'm choosing Burnham too,

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you know, because until this point
I never really realized how far her

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character evolved and for the better.
She's truly taken command of the Discovery,

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especially after seeing, you know,
the position she was in back in the

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first season. You know, she
was a prisoner, accused of being a

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trader, involved in the depth of
her captain and crew on our old ship.

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You know, it's really hard to
believe that now she's a captain and

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just has come so far and has
helped reform the Federation after the burn That's

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a long way to come in the
five or so years that the show has

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been on, and you've got to
be proud of an accomplishment. So I'd

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want to be here. And it's
it's funny too, and I think they

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chose, not just for the story
wise, to have her meet her old

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self in the troublelift like that and
have that fight. But you get to

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see the contrast between the two characters, how much she has grown right here,

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not just in look, but just
in maturity. And it's a great

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thing to do for in its final
season, I'll look back to see exactly

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how far the show has went.
Yeah, absolutely, Scott, what about

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you, Well, I'm gonna flip
it too, I'm gonna say so to

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experience this episode from his perspective,
so from a from a professional standpoint,

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seeing what he knows as history,
unless this has all been classified and he

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hasn't been through it, which again
of doubt, he's seeing history unfolded in

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front of him. Right. All
these things that he's heard about in the

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past, he's experiencing at first hand. So that's got to be a little

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bit of a shock to him at
the moment to say, like, oh

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my god, I'm experiencing some pivotal
moments here. Personally, it would just

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be interesting to understand the emotional journey
he goes through of understanding more about the

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Discovery crew and how it works and
how he can kind of fit into that

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dynamic. I can see him becoming
more of a part of the crew and

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him accepting his role on the crew
as much as you can see them accepting

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him, even though it's reluctant at
times. He's really showing the value that

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he can bring to Discovery and I
think that's a great journey to be on.

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Well, how about some easter eggs? Wayne? Which one's catch?

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And there wasn't too many of them
in this one, but there were a

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couple, including one big one.
One thing I want to mention is I

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noticed a lot of similarities to this
episode to another episode of Certric Voyager called

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Shatter, where it was during it's
seventh season. In that episode, Commander

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Chicote is also being thrown back and
forth through different time periods of Voyager after

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they hit a time rip, very
very similar to this, and both episodes

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are very well done. If you
haven't seen the one, go back and

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watch that. Another thing I also
noticed is this is the first episode to

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not credit Doug Jones as part of
the cast. He was not listed in

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the main credits. He doesn't appear
at all in the episode. We do

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hear his voice, but that that
was actually a clip from an earlier episode.

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He didn't actually record anything for this, so we know we have an

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episode where he has nothing to do, and I hope this is the only

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one, because I like that character. I want to see more of him.

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But the big and pretty much the
only one that I was able to

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pull out of this episode. It
deals with the time bug itself, the

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cren of Phage. They identify it
as being a Krenim, which that is

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means it's from the same planet as
a race from the Delta Quadrant which had

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mastered the ability to manipulate time cause
a lot of trouble for Uss Voyager during

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a two part story called Year of
Hell, which was back in Boyger's fourth

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season. You know, that's another
great two parter and a nice callback and

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connection to that series. Plus,
they also mentioned the Temporal War and apparently

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the Krintim have a major part to
play in this, which that's something one

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of the storylines from Enterprise. I
was going to ask about the Temporal War,

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So that's something that was in Enterprise. That was one of the main

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storylines of Enterprise. We didn't actually
learn too much about it, and it

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was never fully resolved. They kind
of left hanging at the end there because

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the series was canceled, but they
were leading up to something big interesting.

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All right, Well, have we
seen the trailer for next week. We

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saw a clip from the episode.
Yeah, I saw a clip. Episode

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is called What Mirrors. I believe
it's called oh yeah, what I have

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not the trailer? What do we
see? So what I saw was what

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Book and Burnham were on a shuttle
it looked like, and they were moving

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through I don't know, some kind
of atmospheric missed whatever it is, and

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anomaly and they get a glimpse of
Mollenlocke's ship and lots of debris, lots

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of debris, and Burnham sees something
but then it stops right there like okay,

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because enough to tease you, Well, yeah, interesting, and I

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think I may know what's coming next
after that what she sees, because I'm

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going to come out and just say
it right now. This is my prediction

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from seeing this clip. But you
know, we had seen in the trailer

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that aired that was shown right after
the first episode, a really really quick

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shot at the USS Enterprise. It's
definitely the Enterprise because you can clearly see

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the one seven oh one if well, if you freeze the frame. Now

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those shots from the trailer, the
nebula that it was coming out of matched

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thebular that was in this clip.
And this will sneak peek as well as

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the shuttlecraft which was in those shots
as well. So we're seeing the Enterprise

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in the next episode. There's no
pubt of it. But here's my here's

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my question I'm going to throw to
you both. The episode is titled Mirrors.

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So are we seeing the Enterprise that
we are very familiar with or are

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we seeing a Mere Universe version of
the Enterprise. That's a good question.

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Interesting, Yeah, I mean,
based on that, it feels like we

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might have two separate teams in the
Mere Universe. So if they encountered the

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Enterprise, but you're seeing how Michael
and Booker are kind of parallels to moll

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in lock right relationship wise, and
then you might have the two of them

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needing to either team up or somehow
deal with Mere Universe. Maybe maybe where

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they landed. Since this episode didn't
really give us any new clues necessarily that

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scanned the area and nothing was there. Maybe it's that the coordinates are correct,

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but the universe is wrong. Could
be, and it takes a crossover.

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It's an interesting way to go because
I mean, it's great, it'd

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be cool if they are visiting the
Mere Universe, again since that's kind of

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how the show started in this first
season. But what an odd way to

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go. I was would not expect
that during this season. So we'll just

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have to wait till next week and
see or this week. Yeah, I'm

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curious. Well, I'm excited to
see it on that based on that teaser

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at least, wait me too.
All right, Well, I think that

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wraps it up for us. I
feel like there's a lot more to say,

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but I think we just enjoyed it
so much. That's all there is.

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Go watch it. Yeah, exactly
for sure, and it seems like

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we're headed in the right direction.
Yeah, I can safely say it feels

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like we're headed to the right place. Yeah, definitely. As always,

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