Oct. 30, 2024

Phasers Set To Stun: Lower Decks S5.E1 Dos Cerritos | S5.E2 Shades of Green

Phasers Set To Stun: Lower Decks S5.E1 Dos Cerritos | S5.E2 Shades of Green
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Season 5Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and more. On this week's episode, our crew welcomes the return of Star Trek: Lower Decks for it's final season. Join us for a recap of episode 1, Dos Cerritos and episode 2, Shades of Green.

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in today's show notes and join us this Friday, November first,

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a bold conversation our prime directive to recap our favorite

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debate about all things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phase

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Set Too Stunts.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star Trek.

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In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we

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explore every quadrant of the expanding universe of Trek by

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covering television, animation, movies, directors.

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And much more. Plotting the course, as always is your

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Core Trek crew. I'm Scott Hoffmann, I'm David Burns, and

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I'm Wayne Whited.

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And in this episode we're drawn back into the animated

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side of Star Trek with one of our favorite fresh

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news series, Lower Decks, which is unfortunately having its final season.

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We're run to have a bandoo before we talk about

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the latest adventures the USS Soritos.

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We're calling for a red alert.

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This episode is full of spoilers, obviously. If you haven't

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seen the latest episode, please go watch it and then

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come back to join us.

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We'll be here waiting for you.

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We're dedicating this episode to Star Trek writer Jerry Taylor,

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who passed away recently at the age of eighty eight.

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Jerry was a key writer and producer starting with The

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Next Generation and its fourth season, before becoming a show runner.

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For the final season.

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She was also an executive producer on Voyager, as well

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as shoe runner on that series for the third and

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fourth seasons. Jerry was the writer behind the Drumhead, Part

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one of Unification, Part one of Descent, as well as

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several Deep Space nine episodes that I'm sure we'll be

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talking about soon. Jerry, thank for all you brought to

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our Star Trek universe.

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Yeah all right, Erry, thank you.

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Now let's break down the latest episode, Dose Serritos. Why

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don't you give us a summary of what it's all about?

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All right?

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Written by Aaron Burdett and directed by Megan Lloyd, the

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US Reduce is caught in a quantum fissure where they

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discover another timeline version of themselves, and each of the

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crew come face to face with their alternate selves. Meanwhile,

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somewhere in another quadrant, Tindy is trying to do her

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best by living up to the promise she made to

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her sister be returning to life with her Orion family,

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but he clearly wants out so she can return to

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the place that made her happy.

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Wayne, what are your what are your initial thoughts on

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this first episode coming back Lower Decks.

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I thought it was a great opener for the season

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because it's pure, tried and true Star Trek.

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I mean, it really is.

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I mean, meeting one's self from an alternate universe, we've

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seen that so many times. But then of course Lower Decks,

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it's perfect. I mean, you know, they they poke fun

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of these things that we've seen a million times, so

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I thought it was perfect. You know, usually we see

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it's the the mirror universe we see, but here we

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get a little bit of a different take to the

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alternate universe, so you know, things that could have been

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if they had taken a different path, and it's really

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funny to see the differences in them all. I enjoyed

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that part of it.

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than other Ford, who is pretty different.

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We've got an updated opening sequence, which is always a

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welcome sight. They're expanding on that worst Day Ever battle

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sequence where they just throw everything you possibly can in

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the worst case scenario. I don't remember seeing the crystalline

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entity last time.

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Yeah, he was in there, that one was in there.

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Yeah, But I noticed the giant green hand.

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Yea, the green handed. Yeah, that's due.

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Yeah. Wasn't that a tholeid web they were?

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And I wait, I'll turn to you the massive ship

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from Star Trek to Motion Picture.

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Yeah, vgre that was my favorite Bart. I couldn't believe

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that appeared.

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Especially how it kind of like just it fills up

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the entire background with this question with this ominous sound.

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on Tendy right.

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From the get go, because I think that was one

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of the Dan questions at the end of the season,

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what would happen?

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And obviously they're trying to wrap it up, so it

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makes sense to explore that in depth in these first

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two of upisodes.

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I mean, this is it really is an epilogue to

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what happened in the Inner Fight in Old Friends, New Planets.

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We had a lot of stuff wrapped up in this episode,

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which is I'm glad they started it and did it

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that way.

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Yeah, yeah, I am too.

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I mean they had to, and they actually stretched it

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out for the two episodes. I'm glad they didn't, you know,

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quickly wrap it up and then because it was actually

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rather important story fought and her her character.

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after she's been there for a while. It gives her

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some chance to catch up with family and maybe your

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embracer Ryan's side a little bit more. We're definitely got

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to getting a lot more than we ever have in

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Star Trek history. So let's talk about some of those

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alternate counterparts from this one. All start us off with

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alternate Tillin, who seemed to be almost exactly like the

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other Till in other than saying remarkable and fascinating fun. Yeah, well,

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there were there were certain parts where I was like,

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did we get the original Ton back or did they

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just agreed to do some kind of switch and they'll

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come back later.

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I don't know, it's a little weird. Wayne. What about you?

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What other alternates stood out for you?

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in the background, like King billups and and you have

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Ransom with his his a awful mullet. Yeah, you know,

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you get you know Marner, he's or she's the asshole

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captain with the writing crop. That that made me laugh too. Yeah,

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it's it's just great, you know you got that, the

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the you know sure and and confident Boimler. I just

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I just love the differences, the contrast between the two

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versions of the characters.

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Wasn't there another captain from one of the movies that

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had a writing crop?

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Yeah, and Star Trek three and he was an asshole too.

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Yeah, it goes along with the territory.

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Maybe he's an admiral somewhere.

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Yeah, I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is.

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We can't we can't forget about Captain Freeman. She's in

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Scarbay CD.

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I felt so bad for her, She's like what ye Stoba.

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I think my favorite was the Kashuns Timber when he

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met himself. I'm a sucker for that every single time.

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Dave, what about you?

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I mean all of the Boyman obviously was I was

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getting kick out of his character. So I felt like

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his counterpart was very similar to him, just a lot

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more confident obviously, and you know Boyler picked up some

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of that a little bit that he got even when

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he like at the end when he was so commanding

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on the bridge.

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Oh yeah, did you see he did it? He did

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the reverse Ricker maneuver.

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Yes, yes, That's one of the brilliant things about this show.

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I mean, if it's if you're coming into this series

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to the phaser set to study, you've been listening for

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a while, but you haven't caught onto lower decks, You're

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really to yourself to get into this because there's i

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mean the tiniest easter eggs to the biggest plot threads.

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It has a lot to offer, a lot of cuts

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across a lot of different Star Trek series, So I

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mean there's really something in it for everybody.

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I would just love to be in that writing room

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when they're going through and like, what can we put

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into this episode? You know that gives no watch to

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other Star Trek. I would just love to be able

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to do something like that.

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Man and Waite, I know you would for sure that

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would be a dream job. I would love to do

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that so much fun.

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Well, I'm sure they could put together some kind of

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like a Where's Waldo poster for that Worst Day Ever

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battle sequence, because it seems like they're just like, all right,

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let's have the floating whale sausage in there.

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Let's you want to have giant greenhand, Sure, why not?

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Yeah?

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I think one of the.

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Most unusual ones was the Rutherford Otherford duo, which was

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in interesting choice, Like, of all the characters, he's the

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one that's changed the most because his tendy isn't there,

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So that was an interesting choice to say, like, without tendy,

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he would lose himself in the work. I guess that's

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trying to say.

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It's kind of sad.

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It is, you know, he's eliminated his the humanity, the

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the you know, human parts of him and you know,

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embrace the the mechanical and just like they said in

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the episode, that's he's more. He's practically a.

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Borg, right, which maybe a little worried when Rutherford went

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over and took his little screwdriver and just kind of

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adjusted something in the back of his head. I was like,

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don't turn the switch from good to evil.

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That's that's how the borders start.

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Don't do it. We've learned our lessons start.

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Don't miss that.

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The droids exactly, no, no, no, no.

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Tinkering one element that kind of surprised me because I'm

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not I'm not as versed in the Star Trek animated

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series the o g mm hmm.

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But the Blue Orions, the Orions, the Rions.

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Yeah, sorry, the Orions.

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It was like the parts of Orion episode.

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I think.

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Yeah, Orion was the name with the name of the episode. Yeah.

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That.

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I just love the way he keeps correcting. It's like Orions.

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I mean, you know, they all knew back when we

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watch it that they were you know, pronounced to it wrong.

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But I think it's hilarious that they brought that up

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in this episode.

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Yeah, there's some producer who's just like, look, just just

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go with it. Just finished the episode, were almost done,

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but they had a great you know, filmmation and kind

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of flashboard and kind of look to them, and I

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love that they just leaned all the way into it

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and it was just so odd looking, but it seemed

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to fit the way they animated it here.

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I think, So what are the unique things I think

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that they did in this episode that I loved was

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you know how when you have the alternate universe of

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the characters and like their uniforms are way completely different

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than the versions of the people we have this when

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they only get darken in their uniforms, did you notice

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that it's all life with a Richard color.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, Ransom was barely changed. Yea. They have all these like,

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you know.

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Different decisions like King Billips, but Ransom is just like,

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I don't know, darker uniform, mullet, that's all.

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That's fine.

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And then he's completely in love with himself where he's like,

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I get to push the.

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Button a handsome pastard.

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So we have a lot of important moments in this one. Obviously,

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it's an important episode for tend The crew learns some

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a little bit more about themselves. Boiler steals some kind

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of pad from his record kind of part, and you

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can see that that's probably gonna.

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Be something that continues to play out.

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Yep.

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But of all the characters in this episode, when which

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one do you think shine the most?

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Oh? For me, it have to be Tendy.

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I mean I loved all the alternate universe stuff, but

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you know, she's been given center stage because she's completing

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that storyline. You know, her story stood out the most

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for me because I found it to be the most

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interesting because it's such a big character development for her.

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Plus I just I love the the orion and the

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idea of you know, with her family and and you

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know it's that's.

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My favorite part.

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Yeah, Dave, what about you?

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Exactly the same for me.

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It's tender because she you know, she's surrounded by pirates,

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she's doing something she really doesn't want to do, but

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you know, she's doing it because she made that promise

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to her sister, and you know, so she's maintaining doing

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that but still making sure that she still stays.

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True to herself.

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And I actually loved that about her character in this

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There's no doubt she was to stand out in my opinion.

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So I'm gonna I'm gonna change things up a little bit.

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Then of course you are.

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You.

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I'm gonna say Mariner, specifically our Mariner. I think she's

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showed so much growth since we saw her last. She's

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not rebelling against where her career is headed, and she's

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clearly kind of thinking about defining the kind of captain

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that she wants to be. She's finally accepting the fact

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that it is a possibility. Obviously she doesn't want the

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writing crop, and it's kind of a you know, several

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leaps forward for her. But I feel like if hasn't

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happened in season one, she would react a lot.

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Differently than what we're seeing, you know.

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Yeah, And I feel like she shows some maturity and

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some leadership, especially in the situation where she's kind of

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swapping swapping places, learning how to you know, trick the

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computer into letting her out of the cuffs. I don't know,

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I think it's it's a good way to see the

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start of the season.

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With this kind of Mariner two point zero.

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You could even parallel that with Michael in Discovery, how

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she ran into herself right, and you could really see

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that here with these characters on how she would have

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reacted differently from first season to this. So, I mean,

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we did see that in Discovery, so I definitely can

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see that here being that same situation with her.

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And she had some of the funniest lines in my

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opinion too. I mean, when she gives the sarcastic well

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con salute and doesn't like I.

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Thought that was hilarious.

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She gets yeah, yeah.

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All right, Well, if you could have been any character

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in the episode, who would it have been?

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And why again, I'm going to have to choose Tindy

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because you know, she despite she's doing something that she

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doesn't want to, but she she's keeping her own morals,

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her own honor the Starfleet way. She's back home, she's

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fighting with her sister. It just it looks like so

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much fun, so much advance. Sure that she's going on

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right now, and that's that's who I'd want to be,

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you know, I love all this stuff that everybody what

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they did on the soritos, But she looks like she's

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having the most fun day.

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I'm gonna guess that you agree.

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Yeah, once again, Wayne is reading my notes listeners, so

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I apologize that I have to repeat exactly what Wayne

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is saying. He keeps stealing everything from me. But no,

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it definitely it's Tendy. I definitely would like to have

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been her in there, just to be to get to

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be a pirate, get to be with my family, and

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still possibly have that opportunity to go back to the

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world that I love, which is Starfleet.

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So absolutely.

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There we go, but in a different time, I'd love

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to be tendy after they seize the collector's ship.

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Okay, so that.

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You can, you know, it's probably easter a heaven in there.

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There's probably a lot of things to look through. Assuming

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the guy's collection isn't full of rise of artifacts and sex,

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it probably is that I'm going to show that room

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were in spelled horrible, But I don't know.

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I mean, like, you know, maybe you'll find a Babe

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Ruth card with an original bubblegum smeller whatever they happen

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in the most way.

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Yeah, all right, Well, like we said before, Lower Decks

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does a great job of sneaking in a lot.

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Of these dreggs. We've already talked about the blue.

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Orions and all the things we saw on the Collector's ship.

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Wayne, what else did you notice?

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Well, you know, we talked a little bit about that

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opening title segments and the things that were added into it.

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But there's one thing I'm not sure if you guys

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caught or not that I have made me laugh. When

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the actual title the show appears Lower Decks, you noticed

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that little blue stream underneath it. It is the fifth

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season of Lower Decks, So they decided to do that

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because it's what the Next Generation did during their first

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fifth season, they had that little blue streak underneath the

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logo that quickly dropped after that season. Interesting that opening

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scene with Tindy, you know that looks like they're stealing

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from a paler top. That was the character from the

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Next Generation season three episode Most Toys. I saw a

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lot of things in his collection. I saw the Bulkan

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lust Idol, which he again shows his pride for. There

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was the Bajoran tablet from the sixth season Deep Space

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nine episode The Reckoning, which that's the episode that revealed

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the war between the Prophets and the par Raiths. And

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then there was a Horgun from the planet Riza. And

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then of course we saw the star Trek to the

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reth Con Phaser, which I was happy to see that. Also,

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we've got on the Cerritos. Marner and to Lynn were

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playing Calto, which was a popular game on the USS Voyager.

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There's a mention of Naomi Wildman, who was also from Voyager.

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She was the first child to be born on the ship.

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That rainbow effect that was seen when the Critos gets

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sucked into that fissure, it's very similar to the effect

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from Star Trek the motion picture when the Enterprise gets

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sucked into their wormhole when they try to go to warp.

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And I also saw that Tindy still has her Uss

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Serritus model that she built with Retford in the second

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season episode the Embarrasments Embarrassment of Dupler's got lots of

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Orion callbacks. First, let me let me address the blue

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Orions who look and act exactly like the Orians that

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appeared in Star Trek, the animated series that as you mentioned, David,

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that's the Pirates of Orion. They that's pronounced that. It's

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so weird, but it's neat that they have that callback,

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because a lot of people think, you know, when they

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look at the animated series, they either forget that even

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exists or don't think of it as actual Star Treks.

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I'm glad to have those connections.

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And boy did they.

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Connect because it looks exactly like it. The three hundred

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year old Orion ship that Tindy was sent to retrieve

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for looks just like the Orion ship that appeared in

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the remastered visual effects for the original series of the

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episode Journey to Babel. And finally, we finally get to

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learn Beckett's full name in this episode, Beckett Mariner Freeman,

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which I think we all knew that.

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Ye. Do you have any other stand out to you?

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Once again, everybody, Wayne has taken all the notes from

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my I don't have anything to repeat. No, there is,

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there is, there is one the Quantum Fisher. It's the

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same anomally that warf got caught up in in Parallels.

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Yes, that's right, nice, yep, very cool. I just I

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love the fact that what they when they were kind

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of ending the scene with the collector on the ship

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and one of the one of the Orion crew wanted

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to take the what do they call that facial decor?

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Yeah, Brandy yells out, it's prescription.

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All right.

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Anything else we want to say about that first episode?

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Nope, it was good.

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It was enjoyable to watch and have lower decks back,

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even though it's for the final season. At least Roga

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gigs some episodes to enjoy.

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Yeah, totally agree.

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All right, Well, let's take a quick break before we

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break down the other premiere episode, Shades of Green, will

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be right back.

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We're back. Let's get into Shades of Green. Wayne, Can

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you tell us what it's all about?

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Yes, Sister.

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Episode was directed by Bob Sorez and written by Keith Fogelsong.

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A war is ordered by the Orion Queen between the

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family Tendy and the Blue Orients to be settled with

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a dangerous race through an asteroid belt. Devana Tendy learns

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that her sister is pregnant, and in trying to protect her,

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nearly forfeits the race and crashes her sailing ship. Meanwhile,

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the Critos is helping a recently admitted to the Federation

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planet shed its economy and returned to a post Scarsea economy,

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but some of the planets resent the change and kidnapped

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two instants who are forced to remember the advice of

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Lieutenant Boimar in order to survive.

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So my first question about this one, it wasn't the targetlines?

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Was that the planet where?

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That's right?

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Have we seen them before?

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I don't think so. I don't remember. I didn't see

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anything in my research. I think they're new, Okay, all.

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Right, Yeah, I think that was a great kind of

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subplot to this. It seems like all that burning money would.

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Be a for ky nightmare.

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The same thing.

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I love the little the little things they put it

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in there. Like a T shirt that says no money,

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no problems, And we got to see a lot more

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of Boimler in a leadership.

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Role David in this one.

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Absolutely he started to take some pointers from himself, his

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other self that he met in the last episodes. I

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think that's where they're going with this, and he's trying

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to be, you know, more commanding and doing the right thing,

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which he kind of gets a little bit trouble.

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Let him have fun and he.

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Actually a little bit of trouble. But hey, that gives

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us some antics that we can enjoy with him. But no,

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I thought I liked that they were going that way

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with his character in this episode.

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I love the fact that since it's animated, they've got

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just two little stacked lines on each side of his lip,

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his partial mustache.

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I think that's just.

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Remember left with your legs and your spine will be fine.

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I feel like that's gonna be a nice acquisition, right

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most pointers.

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Wayne, What about you? What are your thoughts on.

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Oh A Boimler, He's great. I've got to mention it again.

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Just like you said that, that little hint of a

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mustache kept making me laugh every time I saw him.

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It's like it's like he's trying so much to be

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his altered itself, but he just can't quite.

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Grow it, grow it. It's so it's so funny.

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I'm curious about where they're going with his storyline and

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with the storyline of the entire season. I mean, we've

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got two episodes already and I can't figure it out

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exactly what this this overlying storyline will be. But I'm

478
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.200
sure that Pad and something with Warmbler is going to

479
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:27.160
be involved in it.

480
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:30.480
Yeah, well, I wonder if, I mean, it's not necessarily

481
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.519
going to reveal anything about their future, but I don't know.

482
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.480
I could see that being kind of a Gray's Almanac

483
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.400
kind of situation where he's trying to follow this other

484
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.680
boiler so closely, but he's wrecking his original time with

485
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.319
how I was supposed to to play out.

486
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.079
That's not a bad thought. That's actually a good, good

487
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.480
things good thought there.

488
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.559
But we'll see hopefully not spoiling anything horrible.

489
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:58.480
It's a guess, so I mean, you're a spoiling exactly.

490
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.359
So obviously, as you mentioned, we get more of Tendy's story,

491
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.960
which I love seeing play out in this one. You

492
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.799
get a lot more of her relationship with her sister,

493
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.720
a lot more of an insight into the dynamics on

494
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.880
the Orian world, and you get an idea for why

495
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.680
she's so protective of her sister because it turns out

496
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.680
her sister is pregnant with the future mistress of the

497
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:30.359
Winter Constellation. I love the relationship building in this one.

498
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.759
I love that we get more of a chance to

499
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.160
focus on Tendy and the rest of the crew seems

500
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:36.440
to be.

501
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.319
Kind of a subplot to it. Yeah. I think that's

502
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:40.000
well done here.

503
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.960
I like the fact that, like everyone on the crew

504
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:47.160
knew she was prying to accept for Tendy, so yeah,

505
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.960
you know, the whole thing of you know, she's trying

506
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.119
to protect her sister and trying to not say that

507
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.519
she knows when everyone else say.

508
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.279
Oh, yeah, we were that whatever.

509
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.920
Right, and then Tendy completely doesn't understand. She's like, what,

510
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.680
but you're pregnant, and she's like, yeah, but like my

511
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.440
mom fought like nine wars when she was pregnant.

512
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.160
With you, and but she usually in the middle of

513
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.920
she got pregnant. I mean she gave birth to one

514
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.039
of them. Was it like in the middle of a

515
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.079
sword fight or something like that.

516
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:18.319
Yeah, I thought it was a clever use of the

517
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:19.119
sale barges.

518
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:20.799
Oh yeah, that was pretty cool.

519
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.519
I know that'll come up in Easter eggs.

520
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.759
It immediately gave me kind of uh Tron kind of vibes.

521
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.200
But I thought it was a clever way to uh

522
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.359
kind of slow things down a little bit without using

523
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.440
warp capabilities or anything else like that, just completely on

524
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:40.079
what was it solar wind?

525
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.880
Yeah, yeah, guessing, but I don't know. I thought that

526
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.039
was a nice element to it.

527
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.079
It really reminded me in Star Trek. People don't don't

528
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.279
hate on me when I say this. It really reminded

529
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.839
me of Count Dooku ship in Yes, the Star Wars prequels,

530
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:55.440
didn't it.

531
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:57.160
Yeah, it did have that look.

532
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:02.480
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, now that you mention it, yeah, yep. Well,

533
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.039
and I think we saw something similar in Strange New Worlds.

534
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.640
Well, I mean there there is something very similarly used.

535
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.440
There is something very similar deep Space nine, and I

536
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:14.119
think that's where that I.

537
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:15.279
Think that's where's.

538
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:18.799
Oh, that's where this came from.

539
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:20.519
Yeah, that's that's where it is came from.

540
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:21.920
Yeah.

541
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.559
What about the Gardener Guard battle bots that we saw

542
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.519
where they had they were like giant bottles. They had

543
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.640
phasers strapped to it or something like.

544
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:38.480
That, more like butlers than maz Yeah, one of them

545
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:39.279
is trying to sweep the.

546
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:47.720
Right I forgot to water them. Oh my god, that

547
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:48.839
was a great part.

548
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:54.000
I'm very satisfied with the way they ended Tindy's Orion's storyline,

549
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.000
how they wrapped it all up, you know, with the

550
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.039
situation on the planets and all the loot that they

551
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:00.960
had to dispose of that that was a very clever

552
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:04.880
way of tying both storylines in together. I will say

553
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:06.839
I didn't While I didn't like this episode as much

554
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.799
as the first one, I still liked the episode. It

555
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.160
had a lot going with it, with a lot of

556
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.079
character building. I'm glad that that they were able to

557
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.839
give Tendy her a moment to shine. With this being

558
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.039
the last season, I'm glad that they did not hope

559
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:21.559
they do that with more of the characters.

560
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.799
It definitely felt like they completed her character here. I

561
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.000
know there's more to her obviously, but I feel like

562
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.920
they really did a good job of wrapping up what

563
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.960
we had from the previous season with her in the

564
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.440
first two episodes of the season. So yeah, Judas in

565
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.400
them for the writers on that.

566
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:44.039
Yeah, definitely, yeah, there was an interesting kind of it

567
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.880
seemed like a small part of it, but there's an

568
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.519
interesting line when it said that, you know, Tendy realizes

569
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:55.279
that she would have to to basically stay on Oriyan

570
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.720
to train the next Mistress of the Winter Constellation, and

571
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.799
that she was allowed to kind of step out of

572
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.279
that and return to who she wants to be and Starfleet.

573
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:07.119
But it also.

574
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.720
Seems to give her another in another place where her

575
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.720
character could possibly go toward.

576
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.400
The end of the season, right or someplace we might

577
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:15.440
even see her in the future.

578
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.400
I think like fourteen.

579
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.799
After the show ends. It's not the end of it, yes, yeah, yeah,

580
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.519
so yeah, all.

581
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.839
Right, well, Wayne, let's talk about which character do you

582
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:26.559
think shine the.

583
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.119
Most in this one? Oh?

584
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.160
Again, it's it's Tendy. You know, this is this is

585
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:34.079
her second part of her her storyline. This was her

586
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.559
episode to explore her who she was, and her relationship

587
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.920
with her family and her sister, and her relationship with

588
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.160
Starfleet too. So once again it's her.

589
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.480
All right, Dave, what about you?

590
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.000
I am steering a little bit away from Wayne on

591
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.680
this one. I'm actually going with two people on this one.

592
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.000
But it does tie in with Tindy. I'm going with

593
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.000
the person Telan because as they were both trying to

594
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.640
do the same thing by being with someone until I

595
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:01.319
was trying to reach out to Rufford to fill that

596
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.240
void of Candy Gone, and then Ruther explained why he

597
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.839
was taking forever on that shuttle.

598
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:06.319
You know.

599
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.960
This of course was followed Butcher into you know, destroying

600
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:10.799
that show there at the end, so they had to

601
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.480
start all over with doing that. So I'm giving into

602
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:15.319
those two characters.

603
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.119
That's good choice, right, Well, this one I'll give to

604
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:24.240
Tendy her. I mean, obviously she's a clear standout. In

605
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.640
the two part premiere, she embraced a lot of who

606
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.599
she was from an Orian perspective. She embraced the Mistress

607
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:34.119
of the Winter Constellation role. I think it'd be great

608
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.039
to see some of the adventures preceding this to see

609
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.799
what else she had done. But I think she did

610
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.480
an amazing job at combining it with her starfleet side,

611
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:47.000
especially in that saleship situation. It seemed like she was

612
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.759
kind of grappling a comet or something to that effect

613
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.960
to help get back into the race and ultimately tie.

614
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:56.720
Didn't Wayne.

615
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.640
If you could have been any other character in this episode,

616
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.599
who would have been and why?

617
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.359
Well this might be a little bit odd, but I

618
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:06.720
have a very simple explanation.

619
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.359
I'm going to say.

620
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.279
God, now I'm going to say to Lynn, Okay, just

621
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.960
because one she's becoming she really is more and more

622
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:16.440
of the time we see her becoming more and more

623
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.680
part of the lower deck's crew. But frankly, I just

624
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.000
I love shuttles, and she worked on the shuttle. I

625
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.480
think star shuttles are fantastic and the idea of being

626
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.720
able to be to one and then tearing it apart. Yeah,

627
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:30.200
I want to be.

628
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.440
Here, Dave, what about you?

629
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.079
So I'm going with the.

630
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:34.799
Two for a question.

631
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.400
I mean, I answered once again h Boymore and Mariner

632
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.519
because I who wouldn't want to visit a planet and

633
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.720
get to destroy their evil capitalism world? Come on, oh yeah,

634
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.319
we all want to do something like that. So the

635
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.119
mere fact that they were doing that, I would have

636
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.839
loved to have been point part of that, which would

637
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.039
obviously give me some kind of new pointer but that

638
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.839
I could create and tell the world about.

639
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:56.960
It, you know.

640
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.000
Yeah, Well I'm gonna be working in the shuttle bit

641
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.240
with Wayne because I had said, I want to be

642
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:07.640
Rutherford working with to Lynn on restoring that old shuttle. Yeah,

643
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.759
I mean just to tinker around. It looked like it

644
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.319
was the next generation era shuttle.

645
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.599
Yeah it was an older shuttle. Yeah.

646
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:16.319
I don't know.

647
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.680
Anytime you get a chance to do some tinkering that doesn't,

648
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.839
you know, threaten to blow up the universe of the

649
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.559
ship or anything else like that kind of a ship

650
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.599
in the bottle kind of situation.

651
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:26.920
It seems like gonna be kind of fun.

652
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.240
I do have a pointer that I want to add

653
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.640
to the Star Trek world. Okay, find an android fimwhere

654
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.559
that you don't recognize leave it alone?

655
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:43.640
Yeah, very true. Yes, for reference, see our Star Trek

656
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:44.720
Nemesis podcasts.

657
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.119
Yeah exactly.

658
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.160
Well, I know we're going to dive into Easter eggs.

659
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.839
There aren't that many, but Wayne, before you get into

660
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.119
yours for two.

661
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:54.839
That caught my eye.

662
00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:01.640
Okay, in the voice acting side, I noticed that Deborah

663
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.880
Wilson plays shown attendee.

664
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:06.079
She had been on.

665
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.920
Star Trek Prodigy a couple of other times, but I

666
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.680
recognize her immediately when I saw her picture on IMDb

667
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:19.240
as Sarah Junda from Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order Jedi

668
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.640
Survivor game. I think she has a great role there.

669
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.440
Modern Family fans would recognize Eric Voice as Ariel Winter,

670
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.160
who played Alex on Modern Family, which was very interesting. Mabe,

671
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:35.160
I've never noticed that.

672
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.359
Before, Wayne. What else did you notice in the world

673
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:39.079
of Easter Eggs?

674
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.920
Well, first, I got to point out the title of

675
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.559
the episode Shades Agree, and that has to be a

676
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.359
play on Shades of Gray are one of our favorite

677
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.720
episodes from Star Trek Niction Generation's second season.

678
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.359
That's a sarcastic comment.

679
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.920
Also, Tindy offers her fellow Orion's a swig of high

680
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.400
Coriythian batmilk, which apparently is good for you. The Corinthian bats, or,

681
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.360
I should say, one in particular, appeared.

682
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.719
A lot on Star Trek Enterprise.

683
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.559
Doctor Phlox kept one in Sick Bay and there was

684
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.079
an episode called Night a Night in Sick Bay where

685
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.760
it gets loose and on the ship and it just drove,

686
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:27.719
it drove Captain Archer Batty trying to catch it. Also,

687
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:33.039
the Orion Solar spaceship, as I mentioned earlier in the race,

688
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.079
it reminded me a lot of that ancient but Joran

689
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.119
sailing ship from Deep Space nine's third season episode Explorers.

690
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:44.119
I'm pretty sure that's where they got the inspiration for it. Again,

691
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.880
we see the Orion ships or the Orion ships I

692
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.159
should say, from the Pirates of Iron, and they are

693
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.159
exactly like, I mean absolutely exactly like they appeared back

694
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.000
in the seventies. And then finally, I don't know if

695
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.800
you guys caught this because it's a really quick half

696
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.960
a second appearance, but there was a really quick, a

697
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.679
goodgie appearance at the end of the episode. He was

698
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.719
hiding inside the Sequoya shuttle that to Lynn was dismantling.

699
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:10.960
He just peers right over the front of the window

700
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.000
for a brief second, then just appears.

701
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.079
Did you mean see I didn't even notice that?

702
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:15.800
Wow?

703
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.519
Egili, Wayne, Yeah, no kidding, damn, Have you got anything

704
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:21.519
to add to the eastdrag pile?

705
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.400
No, the shades was the only one I really had,

706
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.480
So Wayne really pulled some good ones out here.

707
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.360
That I didn't notice.

708
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:28.840
The basket is empty?

709
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.480
Yeah all right, Well, I know I haven't seen a

710
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.360
trailer for the upcoming episode.

711
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.679
A new thoughts on what you think is ahead of us?

712
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.480
I mean, you're one guess was pretty good about the tablet.

713
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:42.679
But beyond that, I don't know.

714
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:44.559
I mean, I feel like they're trying to set some

715
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.039
of these people up to be leaders, which I mean

716
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.239
know they've been doing that all along, but I think

717
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.760
somehow at the end of this one, they're really going

718
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.000
to make that a thing. Whether it's Boiler Mariner, we

719
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.000
know on the route to do that, so clearly we're

720
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.840
and get some character major character development who they're going

721
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.119
to be at the end of the season, because it's

722
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.760
going to be it unless hopefully we get a movie

723
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.960
down the road one day. But I think we will. Yeah,

724
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.840
I think we will too. But beyond that, I'm I'm

725
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.280
not sure. I mean, I don't see any big epic

726
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.840
like season plot or anything right now because they've they've

727
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.079
not really focused on anything. They were just basically tiding

728
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.559
up what they had last at the end of last season.

729
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:25.719
So I don't know.

730
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.000
I mean, there there is a season plot, so we've

731
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.760
heard the producer talk about it in his interviews, But

732
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.639
your guess is as good as mine, so I just

733
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.440
I can't see what it is other than that pad

734
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:41.880
that Boemler has. Scott, your your ideas actually is probably

735
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:43.639
the best one that I've heard so far.

736
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.199
Yeah. I mean, whatever they've gotten store, I'm all in.

737
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:48.800
Oh yeah, sure.

738
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:50.920
I'm really hoping that at the end of this season

739
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.840
at least leaves the door open for an animated movie.

740
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.320
It would be great to see more of.

741
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:57.800
This go on.

742
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.519
I know it's it's starting to run the course, but

743
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.760
I don't think we're done with it by a lung shot.

744
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.360
So if we have any sway, just know that our

745
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.400
listeners would probably agree keep Low Decks going.

746
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.679
Or We've had two strong episodes to start off, so

747
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.320
I can't wait to see what the remaining eight episodes

748
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.360
are is going to be about.

749
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.199
It's fantastic, Yeah, I would.

750
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.039
I would love to see some kind of not talking

751
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:21.920
about a series or anything like that, but somehow give

752
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.360
us a little bit of taste of live action again.

753
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:25.320
Oh yeah.

754
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.159
I absolutely loved that in Strange New the World, and

755
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.039
I hope they do something similar like that again, I

756
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:32.440
really do.

757
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:33.400
Yeah, I do too.

758
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.920
There's there's two things that I'm wondering if they're going

759
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.880
to work into this. Number One, I don't think we've

760
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.639
seen a Q A P.

761
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.320
We did briefly during the first season, anyway, briefly all right,

762
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.480
all right, because he appears and says something and I

763
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.159
can't reader which character it is, but she turns around

764
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:51.920
goes not now Q and then he disappears.

765
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:54.519
That.

766
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.159
Yeah, I think it'd be interesting to see what they

767
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.840
would do if they're going to explore some of the

768
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.920
old filmation style, because I know that we've had some

769
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.320
things for Star Trek Day that kind of get into.

770
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.039
That, and they explored that a little bit. But I

771
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:09.360
don't know.

772
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.239
We're in the animated world. It seems like maybe there'd

773
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:12.320
be some kind of cross over there.

774
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.440
Yeah, never know anyway.

775
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.880
Yeah, as always, thanks to our listeners for joining us. Gentlemen,

776
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.199
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777
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