Dec. 11, 2024

Phasers Set To Stun: Lower Decks S5.E8 Upper Decks

Phasers Set To Stun: Lower Decks S5.E8 Upper Decks
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On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and more. On this week's episode, our crew welcomes the return of Star Trek: Lower Decks for it's final season. Join us for a recap of episode 8, Upper Decks.

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star Trek.

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In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we're

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exploring every quadrant of the expanding universe of Trek by

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covering television, animation, movies, directors, and much more. Plot of

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the course, as always, is your core Trek crew. I'm

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Scott Hofmann, I'm David Byurne, and I'm Wind Whitey. And

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in this episode, as we have been for a few

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weeks now, we're drawn back into the animated side of

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Star Trek with one of our favorite fresh news series,

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Lower Decks, which is back for its final season, and

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we are toward the end. It makes me a little sad,

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it does. Before we talk about this latest adventure of

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the uss Soritos, we're calling for a red alert, so

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this episode is obviously full of the spoilers. If you

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haven't seen the latest episode, please go watch it and

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then come back and join us. We'll be waiting here

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for you, all right, So Dave, if you don't mind,

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let's break down the latest episode called Upper Decks. Let

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you tell us what it's all about?

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I sure will. Written by Colleen Crawford and directed by

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Bob Sororos, the episode that flips the cards on Lower Decks,

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where we go from a show about the lower decks

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to the upper decks and focus on the main command crew.

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In this episode, we get to see the bridge crew

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of the Sorito. So what looks to be a simple

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mission of trying to understand what it has an alien

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life forb known as the Lagoons riled up. It isn't

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long before they get their answer and find themselves in

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a battle with another alien race known as the Clicks.

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We finally get to see the command crew in action,

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and it is indeed a sight to behold.

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It was it was It was a surprise of an episode, yeah,

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because I mean it's from the title, like you should

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get that it's gonna be about the upper deck crew.

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But they they jump right into the face of it,

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and Boimler and Mariner are walking down the hall. They're like,

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you know, it seems weird. They're always kind of like

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fading into the background, and man, it's good to have

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a day off. I was like, that's such a meta conversation.

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It is, you know, it's so funny because this episode

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felt like the next generation Lower X, just the flip

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side of it, all of it, and I think that

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was fantastic that they did that.

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That's a great cat. I didn't even think of that.

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Yeah, it was definitely intended that. It's even the layout

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of the episode is very similar to what they did

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back then.

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And they're taking full advantage of a day off because

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they're taking some time to do what I would think

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is pretty long and drawn out process, especially with the

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complexity they do. But we see Halloween on the Cerrados

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with some pumpkin carving. Rutherford carves a veger, which you know,

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we just discussed on our crossover with the film at

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forty five special thanks to Chuck Brian for joining us

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on that one. I don't know when I saw a veguer,

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I was like, oh my god, that's such a that's

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such a coincidence, even though it's the forty fifth anniversary,

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so it's probably not, but still it is nice.

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To see it was in Mariner going to her mocking

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of Vigor. I just thought that was hysterical.

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Yeah. I also noticed, I know we're going to talk

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about Easter eggs later, but specifically in that scene, I

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thought it was kind of interesting that she says she

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kind of mentions her favorite captains. She says, you know, Janeway,

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Kirk or Cisco, And I was like, so, is that

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maybe the writer calling out what their favorite captains are

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through Mariner or do you I wonder if maybe like

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Tony News and is kind of speaking through that of.

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Her good question. I don't know. I was kind of

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taken aback that the card wasn't mentioned at all, because

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but that's me, that's coming from me personally, you know,

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I respect everybody has their different love their different captains

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and stuff like that. But I was like, wait, wait

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a minute, what what does.

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She do say?

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Meanwhile, Pike is like nothing, I get nothing. You were

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on my show. Nothing. But anyway, I also thought it

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was kind of interesting that Mariner and Wayne keep me

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honest on this. It seemed like Mariner had kind of

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a day of the Doctor moment.

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Yeah. In the Red episode, yep, you are I mean

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I love that they did that, this behind the scenes

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thing that happened, you know, all this huge adventure we

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ever actually ever see.

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I mean that opens the door for you know, maybe

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we could get a short trek in the future where

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we kind of get, you know, a step into that

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kind of thing. But yeah, that immediately maybe think of

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a Doctor Who episode where it in the three D.

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Yeah, and I always wanted to get stuck into a painting.

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What where're they coming from?

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Yeah? And you know, as usual, you know, I'm always

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a fan you know Shaka when the walls fell, when

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we get one of those moments and he says, masorrow

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when the lake was smooth, like everything's fine, I was like,

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damn love it. What about you guys? What are some

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other favorite moments?

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Oh, there are so many in this episode. It's just

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I think one of the things that I love to

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get to We get to see each one of the

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upper deck crew members in their elements, you know, and

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we get to see them how they react in tough situations.

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And I think that's what I loved because some of

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it was very you know star trek, and of course

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some of it was you know, just being silly but

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mixing the two of them together. And I absolutely loved that.

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There were so many scenes that I laughed hysterically. The

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whole engineering themes with Phillips. Oh God, I left so

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hard at that. So, yeah, all of it, wait went

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about you, I agree.

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I just loved how how they showed just just how

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good of a crew that the US of Cerritos has.

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And I too loved the Lieutenant Phillips story. I thought

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that was my favorite of them all, you know, because

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most of the time he comes off as kind of

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a weird buffoon like character, but here, you know, in engineering,

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he's top of the game, and you know, he shows

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here that he is a really good engineering just a

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little forgetfuls. Plus he has his own little Kirk Spock

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star trek Rapha Khan moment there.

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Yeah, yeah, when she grabs the acts uses only what

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do you call this?

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with doctor Tana's ark, doctor Wastelake kind of torturing her

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to kind of update her pain chart. So she's getting

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right the way when she kind of breaks into the

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hallway and the click ats are invading and all this

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other kind of stuff and the guy says, uh, that

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was set to kill and she says, so am I

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and then just wages out. I was like, oh my god.

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She's one of my favorite characters, she says in good

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moments this season.

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She yeah, they're using that character so well.

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So well, there's one very little, slight moment that just

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cracked me up behind and it's wading into the episode

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that shot where the Lord Deckers were leading the creature

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outside the shovel bay. They kept altering the episode. They

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kept telling Ransom to stop calling you space cows. But

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then when they leave that one creature it's got the

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little ear tag on it, just like a cow would.

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I don't know why, but that that hit me.

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Oh Vine humor, Yeah, one that hit for me. And

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this is going to be a deep cut. But the

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Mister Shack's arc I know I was talking to you about. Yeah, Well,

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not only did they have I thought it was kind

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of an interesting, kind of semi poignant kind of moment

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where he's kind of going in this meditative state where

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he's fighting his shadow self right and his you know,

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as a result, ends up beating up a lot of

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clickets to help save the ship and doesn't even know

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he's doing it. He thinks he's just battling Curtesy in

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her pressures. But the illustration style that they used for

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his shadow self reminded me so much of a New

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Teen Titans arc by George Perez and Mark Wolfman. It's

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pretty iconic for Dezy fans, the Terror of Tragone. The

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Titans face off against these evil versions of themselves who

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were black and white except for their eyes that looked

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like the same exact illustration style here, And I was like,

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I don't know if that hits for any other fans,

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but for me, I was like, holy crap, we just

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got to cross over to start treking the Team Titans

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inspiration on that.

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Yeah, that that Battle of Timpasa that was the reference

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in Deep Space nine, wasn't it for Ties of Blood

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and Water?

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I think it was, Yes, that that's correct. Yeah, yeah,

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So we've already known that he's worked with and Grey

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Goot friends with Kiara Neurics, and that just ties right

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in there because that was a big episode of for

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her in her history and in the series.

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I'm glad this is a great point to bring that

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out again. I'm sure they had to kind of rush

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it since they knew this was going to be their

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last season, but at least we were able to get that.

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Yeah, I'm glad, yep.

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Well. One of the best things about this we talk

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about this pretty much every episode, is the character development

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and the rich characters that we get from this. I

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think the fact that they're spending their last season doing

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so much to develop these characters instead of saying, here's

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one big last hurrah. You know, overarching story for the

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entire ship not only stays true to the whole kind

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of nature of the show, but it also helps to

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set up these characters to appear in other places, which

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I would love to see. I mean, obviously in the

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animated world would be ideal, but if it could come

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out any place else, that would be always welcome. Well,

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speaking of deep cuts, it seems like that's a good

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segue to get into the Easter eggs. Wayne, what kind

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of things did you see?

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Oh? There were quite a few of them in this episode,

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But let me start off by referencing the clickings to

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serve you know they have appeared on series before. It

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is referenced first season episode They're at us, go back

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and watch us. A good episode. We talked about shacks

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in this history just now. But one of another thing

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that made me laugh was Ransom and Billocks. They discussed

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the quardry rocks falling out of the ceiling on the bridge. Yeah, yeah,

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that is there's something we've seen that many times in

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the past where when the ship was damaged, these these

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big chunks of things would fall out of the ceiling

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and hit people. Best episode to look that up is

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in Yesterday's Enterprise when the sea is getting hit. I

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don't know where that stuff was coming from, but it

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did a lot of damage. And that's we finally have

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a name for corktreet rocks, and Bingston mentions Jeordie LaForge

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and Roe Larin getting stuck out of phase. That's from

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the Nnaration episode Next Phase. And then after right afterwards,

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he goes on and talks about his time on the

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Or birth Class USS manticor The or birth Class is

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the same type of ship that the USS Grissom was

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and Star Trek three the Search for Spot and we

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also saw it again as the USS Pegasus and Next

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Generations episode Pegasus. We talked about there's Vgure. We saw

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Vjre in the Pumpkin I ever actually got to see

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that version of the ship in the original nineteen seventy

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nine version of the home but because that visual effect

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was never completed. But we did finally get to see

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that version in the two thousand and one director's edition

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and the Starfleet Ecologist. He was a member of the

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race called the Grays and knit, the same race that

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the Federation President Jarishino was from the Deep Space nine

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two part or Home Front and Paradise Lost. And then

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finally we have Nurse Wesley. He mentions that he filled

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the hypersphrase with a medicine that would Carrey against the

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virus that would caut the crew to sing. Well, we

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all know where that reference is coming from. That's got

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to be a reference to Space Rhapsody from the Dridge New.

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Worlds Highly underrated, highly underrated. Yeah.

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Plus I'm pretty sure that his name itself Nurse Westlake.

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That has to be a reference to the musical composer

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for rowerdex Chris Wesley.

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I want to mention one more, just noting like what

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see who is here voice actors that stand out to

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me in this one. We got legendary voice actor Phil Lamar,

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who voices Freeman's husband Alonso, in a rare appearance, which

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seemed like it shook up Maerner quite a bit, like

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I don't know if there's anything beyond her just having

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kind of disbelief that Alonso is there. But it almost

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seemed like when she was refuting the fact that he

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could actually be there, it was like, well, no, it's

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physically impossible because reasons. So when that was happening in

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that segment, I kind of thought, is this possibly where

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the alternate reality windows are kind of bleeding in that

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we have alternate versions of people that are mixed in

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without us even knowing. It might be nothing there. It

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might just be that she had that disp but that

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is something that kind of made me birk my ear

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upload it.

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Well, you might have something there, because I'm starting to

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get that feeling too. I think, and I may to

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be completely wrong with fine on next week, but I

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think that some of the people, some of the things

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that we have seen are not who we think they are.

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I saw the we haven't seen a preview, but I

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saw some of the photos for next week's episode. That

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kind of also makes me suspect, But I really do

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think that some of the characters that we've been following

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may not be the ones that we think they are interesting.

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Well, let's get into the rest of the usual segments

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we always talk about. First one being those pit worthy moments.

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It'll be kind of sad to not talk about those anymore.

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But where we are, Dave, in your opinion, which character

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shine the most?

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I am going to cheat with this answers. I'm saying

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the entire upper deck crew nice. We finally get to

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see them in action and get to view them as

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we have all other famous Command cruise you know, we've

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got to know and love over the years in all

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these other series. You know, this is something we were

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missing in lower decks. I know it was about the

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lower decks, but we really needed to see this. We

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get to see each of these crew members in their

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environment and watch them excel, even Ransom in his odd

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Wayne, what about you now?

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I agree with you, Dave. They all shot online. But

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I chose Lieutenant Shacks only because we get to see

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a lot more of his backstory, a little bit we

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know some of we didn't know. I just I find

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him one of the most fascinating characters from the upper Deck,

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a lot about his pajarity, went through the occupation fought

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with here. If all the characters, I think he deserves

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the attention brought on him, and I hope we see

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a lot more of him in like this spinoff merchandise,

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like novels and comics. Now. He has appeared in the

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comics before. He was a major character in the Star

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trek IDW comic, which is absolutely fantastic. If anyone's not

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reading that, it's an incredible comic and it's just with continuity.

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But Shacks just he in my opinion, just edged a

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little bit more. I loved his story.

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Isn't speaking of merchandise just to throw some latinum their way.

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I will mention that if you want to look for

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some exclusive kind of lower decks merchandise, if you go

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to titmouse dot com. They have a lot of great

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lower decks merch including one of the newer t shirts

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focusing on Shacks. So if you're a Shacks fan like

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we are, then head over to tipmouse dot com and

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check out their shirts. As far as my pick, there's

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somebody that I don't think I've mentioned before is having

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a pipworthy moment. I'm gonna go with Ransom, believe it

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or not, even though he has this really weird way

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of bringing together the what is it the Beta and

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the Delta shifters by basically just being a dipstick and leaping,

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and he does a Ransom role, so you've got to

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respect that, but it seems like he's the fact that

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he's thinking that much about what he's doing with the

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purposes of bringing them together. It feels like it gives

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a little bit more depth. It's still a waiting pool,

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but a little bit more depth. So that was kind

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of nice to see. Well, Dave, what about if you

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could have been any character in this episode? Who would

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that have been.

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I'm gonna be with Mariner because the lower deck crew,

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you know, they get the car pumpkins, they're unaware of

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the stricter as being under attack, clearly free of like,

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nothing happens about them, you know, they talk about you know,

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nothing happens without them, and they get to into a

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friendly drink together in the end. So that's who I

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would want to be with.

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That's a good choice.

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Yeah, Paint though, that's fine, Yes, absolutely.

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Wayne, What about you?

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Well, I chose Comedia Ransom because through most of this

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he just pretends to be asleep, laying back, you know,

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making weather, but hate him and join together to succeed.

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He has little to do it in this episode, but

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he does it brilliantly and I want to be here.

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Yeah, yeah, you know. On on that note, Wayne and Scott,

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did you guys get that vibe of Riker, you know

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when he kind of did that stuff to instant Row. Yeah, yes, yeah,

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that's the vibe by guy in this episode because for

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that so.

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That's a good call.

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Yeah. You know, most of the time the character they

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show him Morris and he gets his a poon and

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you know, someone to laugh at, but you know, really

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underneath and he shows it in here. He's a pretty

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damn good commander, I guess is why he's first officer.

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Yep, absolutely well.

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I did see the the Riker Captain Morgan pose that

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he did where he's talking to him for no reason whatsoever.

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You don't need to lean on it, but there's a

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little captain in you.

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Absolutely, Scott, what about you?

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For me, I'm going to go back to mister Shacks

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and I'll double down by saying he had an amazing

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the animated sequence. When I watched it a second time,

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I just the way that it's choreographed, the lighting that

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they use was exceptional, and I'd love to see more

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of it. It feels like since the battle was all

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on his head, the danger seems pretty low, so it's

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almost like a holideck adventure. But yeah, just because it

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was one of my favorite segments to see, Joyce.

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Yeah, you brought that up. I want to mention the

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information in this episode was really well done. It was

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you know, they did some great job with lighting. I mean,

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it's fantastic in every episode, but this episode it stood out.

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Everything just looks so beautiful.

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In this yep.

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I agree when Yeah, it does feel like maybe there's

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some an intentional kind of like plussing up the sheen

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on this one because it's focused on the upper deck,

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so maybe leaning into a little bit more of the

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cinematic nature of it and just make it seem like

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something that would be an upper deck kind of show.

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So two episodes left.

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No, it's sad, isn't it?

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Yes?

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And you have you seen the photos for from next

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two weeks? Episode there was only two of them.

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I stayed away from.

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Well, there was one picture of we knew he was

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coming back, we are not coming back. We knew he

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was going to appear on the series, but the photos

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showed five different Harry Kims. Very curious as to what's

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going on with that episode?

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Oh no, interesting, Well, I mean maybe to our theory before,

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maybe we get this, you know fleet of Kims that

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are kind of illustrating that thing. Right, there's more crossovers

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and more imposters than we think could be maybe not

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necessarily with nefarious you know means or whatever, or maybe

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ensign Kim is the big bad and he is like,

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I've been opening the holes in subspace so I can

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finally get promoted at least once. I could.

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You know, it could be.

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I never thought i'd hear the sentence a fleet of Kims.

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Yeah, I heard it here first. Well, I'm excited to

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get into the next two. Even though it's it's sad

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that it's ending. It's been a hell of a ride,

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so I can't wait to see where they.

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Go with it.

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And the kudos to all the writers, stricters, cast crew, everybody,

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because it's been a incredible ride.

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Yes, it really, it really does deserve a lot more

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attention and praise. I think that's true with a lot

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of animation that it needs kind of a wider lens

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and more people taking a look at it. All we

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can do is just hope that you know, if we're

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reaching one other person that recommends seeing the lower decks,

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that it's that it's getting some of that love that

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we have for its well. As always, thank you to

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both of you for joining us for another episode.

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Absolutely always fun.

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And thanks to all our listeners for joining us once more.

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