Aug. 13, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E5 Through the Lens of Time

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E5 Through the Lens of Time
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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more. On this week's episode, our crew continues their conversation about the third season of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Join us for a recap of episode 5, Through the Lens of Time.

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set the Stun,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek in this ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise, and so

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much more. Plotting the course as always a jocal Trek crew,

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I'm David Burns.

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I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.

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I shall go ahead and give our normal red alert

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to our listeners. If you are not caught up with

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the series, please go do so, as there are spoilers ahead,

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and big spoilers ahead. I might say from this episode, Captain,

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We're going to need a bigger landing party. Well, gentlemen,

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we are halfway through the season already. With Strange New

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World Season three, with episode five, through the Lens of Time,

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I got to tell you I had original vibes in

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this episode of Star Trek. I really really did throughout

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this and I don't know if you guys would agree

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with me, but I also had star Tek Stargate vibes

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in this episode.

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Yeah, I did too. Yeah.

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I don't know if it was just where they were

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shooting or what it was, but I mean, obviously they're

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dealing with ancient history and stuff like that, like ancient

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aliens and stuff like that. But you know, I just

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I had that vibe going on with this.

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I was kind of picking up a little bit of

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a D.

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And D vibe. Okay, I could see that ten times. Yeah,

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I definitely cold get that. There's a lot of vibe

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going on in this episode.

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I got an Indiana Jones vibe.

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All right, looks like we were getting all kinds of vibes. Well,

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before we move into our different planes of existence, let's

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keep our communication lines open and Wayne tell our listeners

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what this episode is all about.

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The Enterprise is at VDF nine to explore an ancient

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site discovered by Corby and Chapel. While exploring the temple,

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a glowing orb explodes in the face of medical assistant

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Dana Gamble, and he is transported back to the ship

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just as the others become trapped within, the away team

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discovers that the temple was built as a prison for

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extra dimensional parasitic alien beings called the Vesda. Meanwhile, Gamble

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appears to be possessed by one of the ancient and

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non Kaporia Vesta and takes Ma, Benga, Scottie, and Pelia

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hostage while attempting to take over the ship.

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First off, thank you Pelia for deciding to join the

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Rule back time. It is about time pleasant to have

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her with the crew, getting the humor that we get

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from her. She has a few good laughs in this episode,

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and it was it was fun to have. But I

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gotta tell you, guys, the way this episode opened, I'm like,

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oh God, goodbye Nerve Gamble. I just knew it. Yep,

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I knew when when they started the way they did.

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I'm like, man, we didn't get to know you, buddy,

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but it was nice.

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Yeah, that was pretty obvious when it. I got that

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same feeling too, Yeah, I mean I really.

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Liked his character. Man, I wanted to get to know

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him more. I feel kind of cheated. I mean, there

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is something that happens at the end with the screen

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behind mem Benga. I don't know if that's related that

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we may get something else from I don't know, But

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I don't know about you guys, but I feel really

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cheated with Gamble.

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Yeah I did too. I wish, you know, we'll see

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we're five episodes in. I wish we had seen him

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in more the episodes. I mean, I liked him. I

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remember even when we first saw him a couple episodes ago,

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mentioning that that I really liked the interaction. That they

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had the idea that they were introducing these secondary kids

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cast members, but I had no idea they were introducing

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him just to kill him off. And I kind of

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wish that they would have developed him a little bit more,

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maybe put him in, you know, two or three more episodes.

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Yeah, it seemed like there could have been more runway

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to make more of a connection with him Benga on.

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More of a personal level.

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thought we were going to lose Am Benga as well,

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when he says take me, and I'm like, oh God,

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please don't another personal Gamble like you know, would love

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to see to stay around.

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But yeah, it's too soon.

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I just I liked his interaction with everybody that he had.

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He had this this excitement, this youth that you get

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that anybody who's brand new on the job, but you

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could really feel the excitement in him when he you know,

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he's on the enterprise, which is a t He knew that,

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and you know, I think even says that, you know

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that he was excited to be able to save the

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enterprise that he's working on, and and the relationship that

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he had with Membinga, it was almost like a father

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and son almost kind of thing. And it was almost

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to the point that you know when when he hugged him, remember, uh,

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he was almost backed off a little bit because he's like, oh,

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I shouldn't do this. You know, you're you're my commander basically,

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not in those words, but you know, that's exactly what

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it was. And just it was like a little kid

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when he realized he was going in the away mission.

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And I absolutely loved that. And I'm like, well, you

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must have been wearing a red shirt because we all

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know where this is going. But it's just and then

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when his eyes get taken out, oh my god.

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That was pretty gory.

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That was that was pretty gory for Star trek. Yeah,

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but it definitely set the right tone for the whole episode.

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I mean it was more horror than I think I

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was expecting. Definitely a lot of adventure in it, but

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a very interesting, you know, psychologically kind of scary bend

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that they took with this. I found myself wondering if

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there was any gamble left or if it was really

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just I think it was just the the Vesda. Yeah,

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I think basically, I think it was just kind of

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laying in weight and using his memories, using his personality

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as kind of like a suit that it was wearing

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around to be able to get back on board. But

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clearly it used it to great effect to mess with

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a manga because it was getting into his head, getting

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into his daughter, which is obviously kind of a big

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parallel they drew with this to kind of tap into

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his feelings as a father.

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Yeah. I had that same feeling too. I wasn't sure

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if there was anything of gamble left that I felt.

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It was the the Vespit like playing with him, you know,

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trying to trick him. That's that's exactly the vibe, the

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feeling I got, I.

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Know, when he was when he was running the test,

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when he first got him in the medical bay and

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put that thing on his eyes to try to you know,

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get his eyes to come back. And then when he

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tried to do the reading and nothing was reading, and

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then he goes and says the let me do that again. Basically,

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you know, he he was dead. You know, that's that's

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the creature that's taken over his body. But you know,

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I remember when I first saw the episode about the

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Boorg when back in the Next Generation, and you got

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that that feeling, that imposing doom that you had through

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the whole episode. I had that in this episode, did

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you guys?

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Yeah, yeah, I felt that too. Week. Well, first of all,

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we've got a what could possibly be an all new

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villain for Star Trek, and I'm really glad that they've

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done this, you know, rather than just you know, bring

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back the more familiar ones, we got something new that

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can that feels like it can be really explored and

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really established. There could be something big here coming up.

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I mean, we may be seen the beginning of the

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storyline for the rest of the series. Who knows. But yeah,

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I'm extra excited the fact that they did this. But

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it did feel that way. It felt like something big

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is coming from this, and I have my it's more

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than a theory. I'm I get something later. I want

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to ask you guys to see if you guys caught Okay, well.

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I mean even Pellia you know when she gives that

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little speech there at the end, like you know this

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is like pure evil.

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You know, didn't that remind you of Gynan when she

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gave the card the warning about the board, Yap.

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It's exactly what it was. And I had that feeling

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all over again, and it was just it. I got

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chilled when when she gave that, of course she wanted

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to repeat you need to repeat it again for the camera.

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Well, and that's one of the things, like such a

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thing into like either she had like a twinge of

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seriousness to that or that she was trying to be

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like hype were dramatic and then do you want me

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to do one for the camera?

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Yeah, that was that was Carol Kane Gold.

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Yeah absolutely, Speaking of that, Wayne, I want to go

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back to something you had said a few episodes ago.

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I think you're right we're going to get a documentary

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episode because I think this was the setup for that.

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I really do.

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It's I'm I think I read somewhere it has been

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confirmed that that episode that we thought was a documentary

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is a documentary.

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It is that good deal. I'm looking forward to that

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one because I like what they did in this episode

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with with Helm, you know, I thought that was unique

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and something start Tuk really hasn't done, to be honest

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with you, So it's been kind of interesting to see

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that angle. But anyway, you know, back to this episode,

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there was there was some humor in this not a lot,

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but I think they really couldn't do that because what

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did the subject they were dealing with here, and obviously

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pressed for time obviously, you know, you have only so much,

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so many minutes to tell a story, but you know,

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what's going on in the what's going on in the temple,

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all that kind of thing. I thought it was very

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well balanced.

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Yeah, yeah, they did a great job of managing time

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between the two and just enough intrigue. Like it's really

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kind of a trippy concept, that quantum instability and being

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in the same place but on different planes of existence

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at the same time. I wasn't quite sure the explanation

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for how the camera could see all three phases at once,

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but then I put the nifty three k switch on

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way and then just said just relaxed, enjoy the episode.

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I thought that was rather odd too, and they didn't

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explain anything about it. I'm wondering if they do that

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on purpose or not. I'm not sure.

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Yeah, I don't know. And then let's talk about Patel,

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the gorny inside of her, recognizing this creature that was

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in Gamble, and then you get this incredible fight. I'm

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going to go ahead eight. I don't know if they

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did it on purpose, but did you notice when Batell

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was swinging, there's almost like Gorn from the original Star

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Trek how he how she? I thought that, Yes, it

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looked like that. I don't know if I think that was,

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but I think it was. I think it was intended

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because it was I I noticed the same thing. Yeah,

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that was so cool. I'm like, holy crap, are they

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doing this? And but no, the whole sequence man, where

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I mean, she just goes crazy. Obviously, the Gorn takes

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takes her over, and they obviously have to calm her down.

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But kind of the insidance that we had when Spock

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was mind melding with her and he kind of got

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that too. But I thought that was a really cool.

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Scene and obviously obviously these Vasda are mortal enemies of

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the Gorn. Yeah, you know, it's a nice little establishment

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about you know what's going on.

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A little bit.

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Yeah, Yeah, there's definitely Q guy vibes in that, like

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this deep seated hate for each other. I think it's

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beautiful how they're creating language in this episode for that

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fight scene, but also the character of Angel, and I

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think Ish Morris did a fantastic job with that character,

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even though it was a minor character, kind of slipping

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in and out of language that's familiar. So it's interesting

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to see, Like I'm watching it with subtitles on, and

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I can see kind of the language they're using. I

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wasn't able to dissect it too much, but it seems

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like there's some interesting specific use of language that they

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have there between the two. It also kind of made

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me think of when Spock looks at one of the

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orbs and sees kind of that that same Gorn head

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kind of pop out of them or pop out at him.

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What I found interesting though, was that it seemed like

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it was more of a memory than something new. Yes,

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so I wonder if that orb was kind of like

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we saw with Gamble, it's kind of tapping into something

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inside of him or kind of hitchhiking in his memories

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more than showing him something new.

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I don't know.

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Well, let me throw this at you guys, because I'm

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not sure if you noticed this or not. And this

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may put a complete different perspective of everything here too.

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Remember a few episodes back, on the episode of Wedding

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Bell Blues with Churlaine Charlaine. Now, keep in mind the

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planet that they're on right now, it was Vaddy and nine.

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Charlaine mentioned and nine as their whole old home world.

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And if Trelaine is part of the que continuum and

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this is their old home world, we you know, these

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could be evil Q. This are what they used to be.

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This we could be getting an origin story for.

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The que oh my.

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But they did that on I mean, it's definitely on

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purpose that that those planets were mentioned that would be

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deep So, I mean, that's that's a good question. Are

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the are the Vasda the original versions of the Q

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You know it opens so much like I said, this

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story this could be the beginning of the storyline that's

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going to be for the rest of the second half

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of the series.

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Yeah, I think I think what we saw in this

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episode is going to be our cliffhanger for this year,

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because we know it's not gonna be the Gorn again.

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I think this alien is going to be the rest

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of the season or at least pop in here and

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there until the finale, and the finale will be this

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That's my guess.

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So two things to build on that. Number One, Wayne

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loved that idea. I totally got some of those like

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evil Q vibes when Pelia was talking about it. It

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could be interesting that these versions of Q can be

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imprisoned or that they have to hitchhike in some way

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that they have to kind of you know, possess someone

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else to get anywhere. But also kind of interesting to

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think about if this is the villain that's going to

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cause the cliffhanger for this season. It feels like there

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might be a possibility that they have to wake up

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the Gordon that they just put to sleep.

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Oh oh man, oh that would be That would be

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a good guess, an interesting twist to the story.

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Yeah, because of the only one that knows any kind

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of like actual connection or history to them is you know,

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whatever's happening with Pattel.

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And along with that, Speaking of Patel, Pike may have

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to let her go. He may have to allow her

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to become whatever she's becoming in order to fight this

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creature to save the Federation.

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Yeah, I have a feeling is a big heartbreak coming

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for him.

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Yeah, that's my theory too, that she's not going to

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make it to the end of the season.

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No.

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Man, that's gonna be some heavy stuff that we're going

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to deal with this season.

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Which is a shame because she's an amazing character.

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Yes, absolutely. Speaking of amazing, how about Chris Myer's performance

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as Gamble, and not just as Gamble but as the

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creature too. The way he was able to turn it

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off and on off and on off and on like

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a switch. I thought his performance in this was phenomenon.

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It was, Yeah, it was.

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It definitely deserves recognition because I mean, I don't know

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whether it's CG or how they kind.

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Of apply the.

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Whatever was happening with his eyes to show them like gone.

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But yeah, the way that he uses like subtle tilts

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in his head kind of Michael Myers kind of thing. Yep,

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it was really really well done. It kind of straddled

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the line between ultra creepy and pity, like you're feeling

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sorry for Gamble at the same time that you were,

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you know, wanting to get the heck away from whatever

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that is the thing was.

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But she didn't know what was going on yet. In

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my opinion, I really didn't know, like I said before,

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whether they were just playing tricks or if it really

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was gamble there, which if it was Gamble, that's even

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more tragic than what it would be without. I mean,

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you know that uh, Pellia shot him and and you know,

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killed him. I could understand her shooting if if if

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it really wasn't him, but if he was still in there.

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Oh and you know, speaking of that scene, that right

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there proved Mimbinga is not the monster that he thinks

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he is because he did not pull the trigger. He

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held off because he thought that was gamble and he

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was not sure what is going on. And obviously Pellia

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had to step in and shoot from behind. But that

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just proved right there, from Mimbanga saying that he's a monster,

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he can he's not.

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He's not, no, yeah for sure, yeah, yeah, And I

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mean I feel so bad for him because it's a

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it's a the way that it ended as kind of

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a horrible perversion of what was happening with his with Rookia,

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with his daughter, that now there's something being kept in

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the transport buffer that is inherently evil that they want

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to get rid of, versus something that's you know, the

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kind of a paragon of love, like, you know, something

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precious you'd want to keep.

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So do you think when first off, Portman being has

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to call the parents of Gamble at the end of

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this episode to let him know that he's gone, But

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the monitor behind him when it starts flickering and stuff

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like that, So do you think it's the creature or

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do you think it's Gamble? Or I think it's the

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creature too. It's it's like infesting the ship.

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But that's that's an interesting point, I mean, interesting thing

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you brought up there. I mean, it could. I mean,

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we may not have seen the end of Gamble, I know,

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you know, really we really don't know. I mean, you know,

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was he there, is he still part of the consciousness

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or or what was he? Did he die with his body?

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Who knows? But we definitely have not seen the end

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of these aliens.

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No, not at all.

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Interesting.

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So something that just came to mind, there's almost kind

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of like a Cybock element to these things, is there not,

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in the sense that he has that kind of empathic

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ability to tap into somebody's deepest pain, like taps into

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a mango with Rakia, taps into Rex's mother. I think

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it is, But it all it seems to be this

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kind of reading ability that somebody uses as almost a

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gateway to get inside.

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Did you literally get to bring fun in the Frontier into.

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This I did?

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Wasn't there kind of a didn't somebody like dangle a

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Karen of Yes? Never actually materialized?

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Well, they're still talking about it, just hasn't happened yet. Yeah, Okay,

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I hope they do. Come on, give some, give some

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our trak five.

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Love years Sybock love a phrase you never thought you'd hear.

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No, not at all. I feel dirty even thinking about

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hearing it. But no, I mean these are all good questions, man.

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I mean, this episode really makes you think that they

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did a fantastic job with forcing you to use your

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imagination in this.

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Well, let me just want to come back. I mean,

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I want to see what's happening next.

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Yeah, what if what if Sybok was a Vezda all along? Oh,

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come on now, possibility like his brother never had those

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powers but then shows up with his ability to read

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people and take them to the ends of the earth

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to unimprison God from some kind of God planet.

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Maybe a stretch.

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I don't know. That's a q always thought he was God.

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And if the vesda's already early cues, they may have

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been looking for God.

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I don't know.

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There might be something to that.

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I don't know.

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My brain hurts even thinking about that.

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Too much for one day. All right, let's get back

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on the high.

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Good creep. I never thought of you talking about talking

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about Star Trek five tonight in this episode. But here

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we are.

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Here, we are.

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Scott, quit it. No, it's it's good. It's good, good talk,

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good discussions. I like I like that anything else in

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this episode, you guys. First off, I want to say,

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and I hope our producers listening to this again, I

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want these jackets. I love that Away Mission jacket. Those

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were fantastic.

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They are they are cool. I love those two very

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cool look for them.

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I was like, man, they look awesome in those I

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would wonder them in that.

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I mean, I know it's pretty early, but I mean

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they make reproductions of everything else. So I could see

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some one of the companies making this, and I could

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also see them taking some of my money to get one.

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I will be buying that jacket if they do make it,

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so paramount. If you're listening, put that on your store

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because I want it. Yeah, with the star Trek logo

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on it coming, I mean that with the not to Strugloge,

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but the emblem of Starfleet. That's what I want on

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there too. So yeah, absolutely it must have been cold

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or something, because I mean where they were filming, obviously

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they were on location that was not a set, so

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which I like that too it because it feels so real,

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so tangible that they're actually using a location somewhere. I

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really wish they would do more of that instead of

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all the CGI stuff that we get.

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I think that's where the Stargate fives came from because

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in every episode that they always looked like when they

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were filming in Canada, it was always looked like it

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was freaking cold, so.

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Here we go, and it probably was that it was,

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you know, because that's why they were in the jackets.

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But yeah, they looked fantastic. They really did. They did

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what else you guys got for this episode, anything that

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really stuck out to you that you loved. We talked

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about a lot of stuff here, so.

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Well, one thing I want to ask, so, speaking of

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the cave prism, since we're there, did they technically leave

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it unlocked?

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No? It shut? Yeah, it did show okay, because Chapel

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did the blood things, so someone else would have to

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do that again to open it. From what I would understand.

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Well, because the signet ring went way out to Polaris

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nine or whatever. H the tablet had been disconnected, so

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theoretically all those VESDA were imprisoned. And I just kept

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thinking about when Krby looks back at that, you know,

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like you said, the Indiana Jones vibe like leave it,

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leave it alone, Indiana, let it go, but almost like

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shouldn't we shut this off?

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I guess it's fine, but.

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It clothes, We're good, it's locked, all right, let it go,

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all right.

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The only thing I want to add is, you know,

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even though I was really sad to see Gamble die,

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I think, but I really like the idea of them

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exploring the death of a secondary character and the implications

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the you know, the emotions from it. We don't see

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that very much on Star Trek. You know, usually you know,

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you follow the main cast and you know they're not

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going to die, and most of the time stuff for Jetzia.

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But you know, seeing that, you know, I think they

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did that in the next Generation one lower decks. They

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did it on lower decks. Yeah, yeah, And I like

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that because unfortunately death follows the Enterprise a lot, and

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many times we don't see the the the consequences of it.

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It's nice that they explore that, although it's sad that

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it was that character.

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Yeah, yeah, it was rough to to lose him like that,

474
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because I mean he was an innocent he really was. Yeah,

475
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.559
he was green, he was a rookie, and you know,

476
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.039
obviously he should have touched what he touched.

477
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.279
And his first way mission to port.

478
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.720
No, that makes it even rougher, man, it really does.

479
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.440
And you know, and men being is gonna beat himself

480
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.839
up for this, just something else the poor guy needs

481
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.799
on his conscience, right, but well, it is what it is. Unfortunately, right,

482
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.119
we don't know. We haven't seen the next five episodes.

483
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.920
We could see something weird happening coming up, we don't know.

484
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.640
All right, Well, let's talk about which characters shine the most.

485
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.799
I'll let Scott go first.

486
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.880
Uh, there were so many of them in this one.

487
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.079
I I'm going to give it to ends in Gamble.

488
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:05.640
Who good joy.

489
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.720
Yeah, Like, I'm looking at the roster and I'm like, well,

490
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.920
Chapel had great moments, but her had some great moments,

491
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.680
and Benga had some great moments that Heel had some

492
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.839
great moments, Pelly had some great moments. But you know,

493
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.680
give it to the one that we're probably not going

494
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:20.319
to see again.

495
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.240
Yep, Wayne, what about you?

496
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:25.680
Yeah, You're You're absolutely right. I mean, there are so

497
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.920
many of them had great moments, and I want to

498
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.519
choose Pellia or your Her, but I'm going to say

499
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:36.039
Gamble to our specifically the actor that played Gamble. He

500
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:41.279
shined because his performance was really phenomenal. I mean, you know,

501
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.799
we what two appearances and we really like him and

502
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.720
we were sad that he's gone. That's pretty impressive, and

503
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.240
you know those scenes with him switching back and forth,

504
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.079
which is incredibly acted. So I'm I'm going to give

505
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:56.640
it to the actor that played Gamble.

506
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.160
I'm gonna agree with both of you. It is definitely

507
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.400
antot Gamble. By the time I got to this episode.

508
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.519
I knew right away that was my answer to this question.

509
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:06.400
But one of the things I really want to point

510
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.759
out about him is the joy that he has in him.

511
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.319
And it kind of touched base on that earlier. But

512
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.000
he is the epitome of the nurse that you would

513
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:17.400
want if you were in the hospital.

514
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:19.720
Correct, Yeah, yeah.

515
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.400
Yeah, because sure he loves his job. He loves what

516
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.480
he does, and he loves where he's at. So and

517
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.079
he just it bubbles out of him. He can't help

518
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:34.119
it because that's who he is. And I love that

519
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:36.400
very much. Like as soon as it opened up on him,

520
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.599
I knew where it was going, but it just made

521
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:44.319
you feel good. He really did. He was warm, inviting,

522
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.240
and I don't care who you are, if you're in

523
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.480
a bad mood, you're going to mean a great mood

524
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.160
when you're around him all the time.

525
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:52.079
Yeah.

526
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.759
So I think we get kind of a one two

527
00:26:53.799 --> 00:27:01.359
punch there for Gamble on his own. Absolutely, when you're

528
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.599
giving those descriptions, it feels like a proto Chapel.

529
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.559
Yeah, you know, because when we.

530
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.160
Were first introduced to her, same kind of things, like

531
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.039
the way that she's talking about like I'm just gonna

532
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.599
mess around with your DNA a little bit and she

533
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.680
winks like then you knew what kind of character she

534
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.039
was going to be. And I think for a Benga

535
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.759
seeing you know, the successor to Chapel or kind of

536
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.279
the replacement for Chapel, being a similar kind of person,

537
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.839
but distinctly his own character.

538
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:30.960
Had to feel good.

539
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.839
I mean, that's kind of guy that a Benga would

540
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.480
trust in his in his sick bay.

541
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:35.920
Yep.

542
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:40.000
So yeah, good point, good point. So if you be

543
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.319
any character in this episode, who would it be? And why?

544
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:43.160
Wayne you go?

545
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:43.559
First?

546
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.720
Well, there's a lot of trauma going on in this episode,

547
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.440
so I'm gonna definitely want to be Gamble. I'm gonna

548
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:55.599
say Scottie because he seemed to come out of it

549
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.839
the best, I guess, the at least, you know, he

550
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.720
didn't have to go through all the emotional terminal and

551
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.720
then he gets got to capture the alien at the

552
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:09.400
end and come up with a solution of trapping him.

553
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:11.680
But I'm way to get adding quotes because I don't

554
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.599
think he did the job completely.

555
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.720
Nope, he didn't, scott What about you?

556
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:19.839
For me, it would have been hur uh.

557
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.400
Because she had to be like a kid in a

558
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.200
candy store, seeing all different kinds of languages to have

559
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.400
to translate, and you know, things like that. I used

560
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:33.680
to love Lee did a Superheroes trying to translate interlack,

561
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.200
you know, as you were kind of going, so I

562
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.759
can I can empathize with that kind of situation, Say

563
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:41.359
what about you?

564
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.440
For me, I'm saying far away from that awave mission

565
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.400
as possible. So I'm gonna be Una because well she

566
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.119
gets to hang back and just be a kind of

567
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.480
a voice or reason and not be in any conflict

568
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:54.680
or danger. So I'm good with that.

569
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.119
Yep, I do have a question, and I know that well,

570
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:00.720
if they had done that, it would have been much

571
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.720
of an episode or whatever. But as they were standing

572
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.319
there waiting for the platform, they had to do that

573
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.279
leap of faith and other Indiana Jones and the Last

574
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:13.160
Crusade kind of reference. You have a big group standing there, right,

575
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.519
and they all have to be connected to chapel, right,

576
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.559
So is there a reason they didn't do like safety

577
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.000
patrol and just have everybody hold hands. So when she

578
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.720
takes that leap of faith, that's like, okay, she's good,

579
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.000
and if she's not good, we still have all these

580
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.480
people holding you like a tug of war.

581
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.200
I don't know that would make sense, wouldn't.

582
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.279
I was just like, what's the big deal? Everybody hold

583
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:37.799
hands and she takes a leap of faith.

584
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.400
That's just Spock getting his revenge.

585
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.400
Yeah, dang dark spot there? All right?

586
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.359
Ye, all right? So this is a I know Wayne's

587
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.119
favorite part ether eggs. Wayne, what do you got? Oh?

588
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.799
Not too many this time. They were busy with storyline.

589
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.279
But Dana Amill mentions Korby's work on molecular memory and

590
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.759
corporeal transference. That ties very nicely into Corby's appearance in

591
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.839
the original series What are Little Girls Made Of? And

592
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.799
how Krby discovers that ancient machine that creates androids that

593
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:20.359
can copy your brain. They're leading that direction with him.

594
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.799
I had a little fun, although it was really hard

595
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.440
to see some of the names on that map in

596
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.160
the conference room, I was able to pick up a

597
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.119
couple of names, uh, some interesting ones. One was Trible Prime.

598
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.759
I mean, I'm assuming that's the home world the Tribles,

599
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.319
but I didn't even know they had a home world,

600
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.839
So you know, I can understand a reason why they

601
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.759
call it Trible Prime. But I did see let's see

602
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.799
you guys, you guys recognize this name? The London cor

603
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.880
London Core. Yeah, sounds familiar, doesn't it. That's the planet

604
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:54.680
where Geordie LaForge ended up trapped with that romulent in

605
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.359
the Ectionarian episode The Tername. Yeah, there were a lot

606
00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.799
of other names on there, but those are the two

607
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.759
that that stuck out the most for me. Now, pick

608
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.799
Dana Gamble mentions that he's been serving on the Enterprise

609
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:09.279
for six months. That means that it's been roughly three

610
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:14.839
months since the episode Wedding Bell Blues. And finally, Will

611
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.480
Scotty traps that captured a Vasda in the Transporter of

612
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.160
Buffers or as he calls it, nowhere. That was very

613
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.680
familiar because he'll use that same trick to save himself

614
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.319
on the USS Jane Nolan before it crashes into the

615
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.720
Diceon Sphere in the episode Relics. That's right, that's it.

616
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.559
Good catches on those man, Wow, those went right over

617
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.440
my head. Impressive. Well, what do we see you next week?

618
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.160
They're really secretly of about episodes that are coming out,

619
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:44.680
which I like.

620
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.079
Well, we did get a description of the next episode.

621
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.920
I was actually rather surprised to see this. Let me

622
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.240
read it to you. Kirk's first day as captain descends

623
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:58.680
into chaos when the Enterprise is captured by a Scavenger ship. Well, okay,

624
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:00.599
I notn't say much, but you know, there it is.

625
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.799
Which is interesting, isn't that? The next episode is the

626
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:06.720
Sailout who Ate His Tail?

627
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.000
Yes, that is correct.

628
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.200
Okay, that does not sound like a Kirk epis.

629
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.680
No, it doesn't not at all.

630
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:13.839
I'm not sure.

631
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.240
Well, we're gonna finally get see Kirk in charge for

632
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:19.839
a little bit of here, so that's gonna be kind

633
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.960
of interesting to see. Yeah, I'm sure we'll see him

634
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.559
in some Scottie stuff, I would hope.

635
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:25.519
But I hope so too.

636
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.359
Well, I mean, I think we kind of know where

637
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.039
this is leaning. We've already talked in this episode what

638
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.480
we think the season is going.

639
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:33.799
Now.

640
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.960
I think it's clear that this is taking over the

641
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.039
rest of the story of the season, along with Buttell

642
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.400
still fighting, you know, becoming whatever she's becoming with the Gorn. Yeah, which,

643
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.400
I think that's all going to come to a head,

644
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.559
all of it at the finale, is my my belief in.

645
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.839
It sounds like it's going to be a good finale.

646
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.640
Though, yes, it does Thankfully they've alreay filmed season four

647
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.400
so we don't have to wait a couple of years.

648
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.079
And you know, I know we'll get it next year,

649
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:03.680
but at least we got something to look forward to.

650
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.440
We get some kind of date and not really a

651
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:06.880
date date, but you know what I mean, it'll be

652
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:07.680
something next summer.

653
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:08.119
I'm sure.

654
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.640
Yeah, it'll be nice, Yes, absolutely, all right. Well, thank

655
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.559
you listeners for hanging out with us as we talk

656
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.359
on the bridge about strange new worlds. Wayne Scott, thank

657
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.240
you so much for joining me as always. Yes, yep,

658
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.559
it's always a blast, I'll tell you that. Well. You

659
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.319
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