Aug. 20, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E6 The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail

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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more. On this week's episode, our crew continues their conversation about the third season of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Join us for a recap of episode 6, The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail.

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage in debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt.

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In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we

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continue to show our love for every quadrant of the

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expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise,

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and much more. Plotting the course as always is your

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Cored Trek crew.

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I'm Scott Hoffman, David Byrne, and I'm Wayne Whiteen.

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In this episode, we're continuing our coverage of the freshest

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Trek available with Strange New Worlds Season three. Today we're

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going to be talking about episode six, The Shalot That

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Aid It's Tale, written by David Reid and Bill Wolkoff,

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directed by Valerie Weiss. This is an episode that's gonna

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get a lot of discussion from us, but since it's

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so new, we're calling for a red alert. As always

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on spoilers, if you haven't seen the latest episode, please

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go watch and come back to join us when you're ready.

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Before we get into that, Wayne, I hear you has

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some award news for us.

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Yeah, it was just announced earlier today that Star Trek

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Lower Decks won the prestigious Hugo Award this year for

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a Best Dramatic Presentation Short Form, which you know or

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to translate, that's TV. So I just want to I mean,

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that's great. They actually want another one for Best Comic

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Book as well, but they won for their season series finale,

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The New Next Generation. So congratulations everybody Lower Decks, Brandon

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Williams and all the producers, directors and writers that work.

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On the show.

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Yeah, absolutely congratulations. And if you know, that's another endorsement.

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If you are new to the show or you haven't

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listened to our Lower Decks coverage, go check that out.

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But absolutely check out Star Trek Luarer Decks. I think

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it broke a lot of new ground and it definitely

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deserves more attention.

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I think I got Yeah, it's a well deserved word.

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Absolutely.

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All right, Well, let's get right into it and break

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down this week's episode. Dave, why don't you give us

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a summary what it was all about?

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What is a star date? Kirk is the first officer

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of the USS Farragut, on a simple mission that seems

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to bore him and the crew. That is until a

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massive ship appears and destroys the very planet in front

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of them and leaves them damaged and most of the

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crew hurt or killed. Kirk must take the captain's chair

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as Enterprise comes into help. However, it is taken into

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the belly of the ship to be salvage, leaving Kirk, Scottie, Chapel,

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Hourra and Spock together alone and the Ferry get to

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figure out how to save the Enterprise of the crew

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and stop the massive ship from destroying more worlds. Part

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of the OG crew we know are together in their

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first mission to do what they do best, come to

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the rescue when there seems to be no hope at all. However,

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there is a twist that they could not see coming

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and this will change everyone involved, including James T. Kirk, forever.

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This was a lot to back into one hour, but

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they did so very very well. I mean, we get

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a lot of action on the Enterprise, a lot of

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action on the Farragut, and a completely new threat from beyond.

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I'll say we're in spoiler free territory, So I was

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gonna say alien threat, but it wasn't necessarily alien.

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It was very close to home.

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And whoever said they saw the ending coming as a.

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Liar, Yeah, no way.

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Did you see that?

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No way?

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When they showed it and explained it, my jaw dropped.

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Yeah, yeah, especially the look of that ship. There's no

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way you could even see from a mile away, but

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that's where they would go with it. Wayne, what were

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your first reactions to the episode?

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Well, you know, I don't want to say that this

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is my favorite episode of the season because we're only

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just a little over halfway, but this is my favorite

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episode of the season.

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It was.

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It just blew me away in everything from you know,

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the acting to the visual effects were wonderful. The music

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was incredible. I loved every second of this episode. I

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really did. And I knew it was this was coming.

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I knew eventually we were going to get those characters together,

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the original series characters. I didn't expect to see it

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this early, but I'm glad we did. I hope they

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do more of this because I know we all know

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where they're leading to, we really do. But I love

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the interactions between all the characters. It was that was

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the high point of this.

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Episode for me.

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Yeah, it seemed like they didn't go there's kind of

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a seems like almost a standard direction you could take

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with the first time they get together. Even either they

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work together phenomenally well and they say why have we

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not been doing this the entire time? Or everything goes

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pear shaped and nothing goes right. They didn't fall into

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either trope, but I think they used it really really

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well because somebody who is usually this confident leader, James Kirk,

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was not in this situation. He eventually got there, but

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he was definitely struggling, and I thought that was a

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great perspective to put on Jim Kirk, like so many

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good insights in his character.

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I mean, we're seeing pieces of Kirk that we've never

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seen before, you know, And I think that's what's making

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this shine because we're getting to see him become who

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we know he is, and you know, just like Wayne,

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I feel like every week I'm saying this this is

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like my favorite episode, because this season is really doing

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an incredible job week after week, and now I gotta

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say this one's my favorite episode so far because they

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just keep topping themselves for crying out loud. But to

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go back to that conversation about you know, the og crew,

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that moment between Spock and Kirk is one of my

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favorites of this whole episode because you're getting to see

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those building blocks starting of that relationship between these two.

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And you know, even though it's kind of a joke

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with the crew when they said somebody who doesn't have

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a lot of emotions needs to go to talk to

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him and they're all turning to look at Spock, it

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felt like it needed to be that way, even though

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it was a joke. It does need to happen because

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the relationship between those two is tremendous and we got

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to start building that somewhere. And getting that building block here,

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I felt just took this episode over the top. Even

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that situation. I should say, the conversation between Pike and

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Kirk at the end I thought was incredible. You're seeing

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Kirk become who we know he is, something we've never

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seen before. I am here for it.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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I mean, you see the way they work together, and

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this is the first time they'd all really work together

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in a in a very uh serious situation. You know,

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we know that captains when they get their first sime,

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first ship, that they choose their crew, and we're now

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seeing the beginnings of of how, you know, the build

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up to why Kirk chose these characters, and I think

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they worked. They were fantastic. I loved Scottie and having

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to pull out his very first miracle work. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm glad we saw that you're her? Did you know

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that's exactly how we should see you orr? You know,

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she she figured it out. Reminded me a lot of

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how she she did her interaction that she had in

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start Trek six. You can see where all these characters

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are leading to. We know what the we know the

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end point, and now we're getting this beginning point, and

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it's it's great to be able to see how everything

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connects together.

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I think are writing it was a very good call

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to make the captain of the Farragut, wasn't it, Captain Verrell.

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Now I'm assuming that she's.

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Full Vulcan when I say this, but it's interesting how

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much he was struggling with a Vulcan captain who's very

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by the book and not necessarily want to take to

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take risks. Jim and Spock not necessarily having the kind

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of relationship that we know them to have. So then

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when Spot comes to counsel him, it's interesting that he

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goes there with a perspective of somebody who's not going

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to put emotion into it. But it Spock's balance, I think,

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between his human side and his vulcan's side that helps

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him see that when he when he talks to Kirk,

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he needs to talk to him about trusting your intuition.

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Like Kirk sees it as I've been flying by the

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seat of my pants and just hoping that I look

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into it, and Spock recognizes He's like, no, you You've

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got good instincts, you've got good leadership instincts, and you've

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got the.

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Bravery to follow them.

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But he's given that situation where it's kind of like,

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but you have to temper that a bit. Sometimes it

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works out in your favor just by luck, which I

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would say is probably the case with his direction to

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Scotty to try to outrun the ship.

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It worked out in the end.

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It maybe wasn't exactly the right call, but he followed

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his instincts, and that's something that I think serves Kirk

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very well in the arts that we've seen with him,

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and it gives a little bit more of a reason

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behind it. It doesn't make it seem like it's just

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his ego that is driving his decisions. You can see

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how much he's kind of wrestling within this situation.

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Yeah, he really has to wrestle with it too. The

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consequences from his actions, I think is going to you know,

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lay very heavy on his head after this. And I

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like how they brought that out. I like the idea

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that Kirk had to learn a very valuable lesson that

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sometimes you have to do the thing that you know,

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you have to follow your instincts, you have to do

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may not be the best thing you think can think of,

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it's the thing that's right to save his crew.

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Well, even his perspective on death and him saying things

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like I don't like to lose. Could be seeing this

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pure ego, but with this kind of build on it.

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It's kind of like because this kind of event is

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going to haunt.

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Him for a while.

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Yeah, and he even saw the kind of weight of

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the chair. I think it was a beautiful direction how

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they would show him kind of like, I know that's

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where I need to sit. I know that's where I

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need to be, but I'm a little hesitant to go there.

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It shows how much respect he has for command, which

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I think makes him a good leader.

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And it's a big difference from what they did in

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the three jj Abrams films where he just suddenly found

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himself in the captain's chair and had to do it.

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I never really cared much for that idea of the

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fact that you know, he just suddenly jumped from you know,

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the lower deck to captain. But here we're seeing as

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this slow build up and the decisions and the consequences

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and the you know, all the learning process that he

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has to go through. This is the way. This is

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the coptain Kirk that I always imagined ever since I

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saw him in the back of the original series.

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Yeah, I think there was another smart shot where we

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see in that situation, Devin, I'm glad you brought it

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up because it's an amazing sequence. But in that situation

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where Spott goes to council Kirk, he comes in the

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room and Kirk is kind of almost kneeling on the

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floor beneath the chess board, and we've already seen him

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established as this expert chess player, so to see him

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in that kind of position where he's almost like a

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kid looking at at this three D chess board, but

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it's him kind of contemplating his next move. There are

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just so many good shots in this episode. I don't

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know how to list them all.

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But yeah, the what you mentioned earlier with the CGI

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that that shot of the Enterprise coming in to help

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the Farragut was just no i'minal shot.

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Yeah, it was a great ship to ship choreography, right, yeah,

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Like we don't usually see ships move that way, and

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One of the interpersonal things that kind of surprised me

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because I wasn't even thinking about it in the last episode,

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even though we had seen some development between law and

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and Spock is the kirk Lawn Spock triangle. Right here

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we go, I know, right, like wow, but it would

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be very interesting to see where that goes.

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I'm glad they gave enough time for that.

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Yeah, me too. It's It's funny how you guys you

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only get ten episodes. Who so much has squeezed into these,

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but they do such a good job of making sure

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they touch base on it, and it's not too much,

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it's not too little. It's like perfect it was.

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It's it's a very rich series.

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I would say anybody who is, you know, kind of

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on the fence about whether to see it, like you're

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getting cinematic level, it effects, direction, score, acting like there's

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a lot to chew on here, and I think if

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you're again, if you're, it's a great time to to

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be a Trek fan, but also to try to start

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somebody on track, because this one, I think is very reachable,

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very accessible.

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To all things.

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And I hope that even if it doesn't happen now

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that it's seen that way soon and if if the

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next iterations of Trek are going to be like this,

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I think we're seeing a good, healthy pattern of where

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the franchise is going to go.

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Well, if anything, just like Discovery gave us a Strange

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New Worlds, Yes, I feel like Strange New world is

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going to give us another rerun of the OG Crew.

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I really hope they go that route.

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Now.

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I don't expect you episodes being redowne to the Og Crew.

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That's fine, That's why I don't do that. Just give

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us new adventures with this crew that we get to

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see other parts of EPISS, you know, planets they explored

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and stuff like that. I'm cool with that. And if

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you want to give some Easter eggs along the way

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as you're giving us a new og crew, okay, I'm

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cool with that too. But I'm so hungry to see

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I mean, we haven't been introduced to the Bones yet,

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we've not been introduced to checkof for Szulu yet. I

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can't freaking wright.

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Wait yeah, yeah, for sure. And I mean, what a

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what a brilliant way to we've connective threads through your franchise.

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Because there are people who may have just come to

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Strange New Worlds and never have tried Discovery that may say, like,

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that's interesting.

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I've never seen the Discovery.

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But if I went a little bit more Strange New Worlds,

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I can go back to Discovery and get that fast

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forward to the future when that series comes out, they

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can do the same thing of Strange New Worlds and

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then that lead frogs in the Discovery.

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It's just it's a very smart way they're doing it.

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I hope that you know, as they continue with the franchise,

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they continue to explore in this way.

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How about we talk about the gut wrenching India. Go ahead,

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a punch in the gut and the throat, whatever you

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want to say, because oh my god, Like I love

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the mystery behind that. These scavengers, you don't know who

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they are. I mean, you obviously think there's some kind

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of alien, some kind of creature the way they're playing

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it off because they're in these suits. And then I

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love how they edited the episode of the discovery that

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you know, you're seeing them Garny to take off the mask,

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Pike to take off the mask, and then you're seeing

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their other crew elsewhere learning this at the same exact time.

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I love the intercutting back and forth of them discovering it,

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and then when we find out everything, you see the

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US flag inside that chip, and then you see the

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mask take off as the human being, and then we

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get the whole backstory of this, and then you find

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out all the what was it seven thousand bodies were

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out there, Yeah, something like that, You know all those

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were humans and their families. Oh my god. Yeah, that

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was just heart wrenching.

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Yeah, and there's so much story here left on tool

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get you know, how did they become from go from

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you know, being the best Scientist of Earth has to offer,

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you know, which what was only about twenty thirty years

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ahead of our time to that, I mean, what happened.

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I don't know. You know that they're all dead, but

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I still think there's more to explore. And it's very

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possible this could come back. This could be just like

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last episode and we're saying that, you know, we got

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the beginning of more story for Stranger in the worlds.

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This also could be a beginning too. I don't think

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we're quite done with this story either.

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Why couldn't we get something like this instead of section

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thirty one gish, Yeah, go back and give us a

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two hour movie paramount to explain how they ended up

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like this.

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Yeah, that's what we want, what we need.

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Yeah, well, I mean especially considering like I remember on

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the second watch, I noticed that behind the American flag

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there was a sideways insigny that looked like the uh,

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the Federation.

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Yeah yeah, it's like the precursor of the Federation or

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the precursor of Starfleet I United Earth Space Probe Organization

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or something like that.

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Right, Yeah, yeah, but it was it's interesting how they

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kind of they turn a couple of things on their

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head like one they get they step into that territory

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of the scariest monsters are us. It felt like a

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bit of a flip on the board. Yeah, definitely less organized,

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but still that just you know, bent on consumption, but

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without the the focus on technology. It's almost like a

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galactus kind of spin, just throwing the universe and consuming.

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Yeah, the way it destroyed that planet. And then when

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the ship appeared, I was actually getting more of a

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remember the old episode of Doomsday Machine. You know, we

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never got a really origin on that either, but I

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was getting vibes of that, and I was really expecting

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some strange new aliens to appear, right.

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And you know, another thing that I found very intriguing

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about this episode, and I mentioned earlier that there's no

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way you saw this inding coming. It really felt watching

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like The sixth Cents all over again for the first

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time and not seeing that name because remember Hayley Josma says,

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they don't know that they're dead. Giving is just that clue, Hello,

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it's in your face. And here Pike says, he pointed

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his gun, he didn't shoot.

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Why didn't he shoot that? Any great?

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You know, and then you find out this whole back

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thing and this backstory you're like, oh crap, now that

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makes sense.

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Right well, and I mean it's interesting in that moment

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it's like the the the Scavenger I'll say, points the

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phaser at Pike. Pike reaches near his holster and pulls

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out I don't know what, but it struck me as

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maybe it's like a grenade or something, or some kind

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of stun something. But he also holds onto it, like

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he doesn't use that hesitation to to hit the scavenger.

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He sees that kind of moment of recognition, that kind

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of pause. You know, it's very interesting. There's so much

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to unpack when you look at several viewings. Absolutely any

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other favorite moments that that stood out.

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It was just it was just a wonderful episode in

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beginning to end. It really really was.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, there's one thing that I'll say is kind of

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a dovetail to any kind of thing we want to

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say about the score, because I usually say very little

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about it. I leave that to you two experts. But

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it did feel like there were notes from Wrath of

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Khan in the scene where they were starting to have

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the plan come together.

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Yeah, yep, I caught that too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

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that was on purpose to it. It was very obvious.

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Lean little hints of the original theme when spocking Kirk

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and all of that, and when Pike and Kirk were together,

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you get you get tidbits of the of that you're like,

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this is this is Kirk. You know, we know what's.

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Coming, just just enough, just enough in the music to

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make so that it's still original school, but it feels familiar.

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Yep. Yeah, absolutely.

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I will say now that we have more Carol Caine

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in this episode. My God, love Pellia. I'd love to

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know how she keeps all of the stuff that she

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keeps and where she keeps it.

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Her room is awesome. Yes, I love her room.

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It's like it's like Peter David's Incredible Hulk future imperfect.

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When you see the maestros.

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Yeah, you're like, can I just spend a couple of

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minutes here just just poking around?

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Was it mem Banger who says this is exactly what

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I expected her room to be?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, what I was thinking too.

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God.

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Yeah, I'm glad we got some Pellia time in there.

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But yeah, there's there's plenty of stuff that I want

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to just like pause and say, like what is that

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in the background. Why don't you have this?

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Why did she have that? Oh, she's got to be

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a nightmare for crew storage.

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Though.

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You know, when we got the original trailer for the

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season and we saw them with the telephone, I never

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iagine that would be in such this type of episode.

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I was thinking either I thought it'd be the holiday episode,

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but no, it was an original idea. I mean it

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all made sense, using the telephone and using the joysticks

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to control the enterprise.

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I mean we talked about that that there. We thought

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something coming along with analog. They got to ant go

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to ANT go in out. That's right, you exactly what

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this was analog.

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There was a there's a funny moment when uh Una

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gets the the first phone plugged in. Yeah, and then

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kind of sits there and I was like, crap, they

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don't have phone numbers. Like I know, it doesn't matter,

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but at the time, I was like, well, how did

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they ring each other?

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It's got yeah, no way, And I know there's got

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to be a bunch of Easter eggs. There were a few,

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which one which one's poked out to you?

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Oh well, first of all, let me explain to the

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title of this episode. All the non Trekkers out there

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who were probably saying, you know, what the hell is

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this a lot? It's it's a vulcan beast that they

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domesticate as like a pet. It's like a big, big bear.

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Spock had one as a child that was named Aichaia. Now,

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speaking of Pelly's quarters, you guys noticed that she hans

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but Benga a and Aatari twenty six hundred. I love that. Now,

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let's also talk about this this ship that they named

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the Destroyer of Worlds. It carried the registry XCV one hundred.

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That makes it the precursor of the XCV three point thirty.

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That's the Ring Ship Enterprise, one of the earliest enterprises.

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That's the one we see on the in the artwork

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on the wreck room of its Star Trek the motion picture,

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and we also see a model of it in the

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Archers Quarter and Star Trek Enterprise. So it's a very

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similar ship that actually comes from just a little bit

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before that. Another thing, I also noticed that flag you

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saw inside of it, I only had fifty stars on it.

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That's rather unusual because that means this predates the Caaribdis

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from the Next Generation episode the Royale, which was that

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was very early because that had fifty two stars on

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its flag. Now that ship launched. The Caribdis launched in

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twenty thirty seven, which was right in the middle of

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the World War Three, So I mean, does this has

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to be before that? But I'm having trouble pinning down

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the dates because with last year's episode, was it tomorrow, tomorrow,

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and tomorrow? They've changed some dates around because World War

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three is said to have started in the year twenty

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twenty six, So let's hope they did change that, because

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that gives you something to think about. Now, Pike and Lan,

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they extract burion particles from the Enterprise's engineering section, where

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it should be pretty familiar with barrion particles. It's a

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byproduct of warp travel and starships tend to get saturated

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with them. Picard had to sweep the Enterprise d of

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varying particles in the episode Starship Mine. And then finally,

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I have got to bring this up because this is

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the easter egg of all easter eggs. This is the

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big one for the season. Took three showings for it.

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I had to go back and make sure I wasn't

473
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.799
imagining it myself. But there's a shot where the Enterprise

474
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.759
is being held by the Destroyer of Worlds. I'm going

475
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.680
to give you the exact time if you're watching it

476
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.720
on Paramount Plus. It's right at the eleven thirty mark.

477
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.799
That's the very first visual effect shot after coming back

478
00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:39.559
from the second commercial break. The camera is panning down

479
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:41.559
and then up to the Enterprise and you can see

480
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.039
the window on the bridge. You can see them all

481
00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:45.799
standing in there, and your eyes are focused on that

482
00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.160
bridge and the people that are in it. But if

483
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.279
you look just up a little bit on the right,

484
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.519
there's the Tartist as clear as day. It's setting there,

485
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.680
right there on top of one of the tentacles. So

486
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.319
is that confirmation that Doctor Who and Star Treker in

487
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.920
the same universe are Is that just a little fun

488
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.319
inside joke from the FX crew. You can decide on that.

489
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.160
That's hysterically interesting.

490
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:16.799
Well there was another Doctor Who connection? Right, Well, I'll

491
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.480
swing for the fence and then Wayne can correct me

492
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:19.640
and we.

493
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.359
Could have that edited out if I get it completely wrong.

494
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:24.440
But John Logi.

495
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:28.720
Baird, Yes, I'm glad you brought that up. Yes, he

496
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.799
was one of the earliest pioneers of television. I forgot

497
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.960
that even mentioned him. Yeah, that was a very major

498
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.400
point in a recent episode back in twenty twenty three

499
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:39.279
called The Giggle.

500
00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:40.279
Yeah.

501
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:44.240
I loved the fact that they gave Scotty that line.

502
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.799
And then he says the Scottish inventor everyone knows John

503
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.599
Logi Baird, and I will admit I did not, So

504
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.839
I went and looked him up. And I think it's

505
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.799
a clever use of saying, like, let's get more people

506
00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.000
talking and kind of remind them of these, you know, inventors,

507
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.400
these important people in history.

508
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.240
But that he's uh, Scottish.

509
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.240
I think as a great ad there, And yeah, it

510
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:09.839
makes me want to go watch The Giggle again.

511
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.640
So are we not going to mention that Hellia is

512
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:16.640
a roadie for Grateful Dead Oh.

513
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:17.359
Yeah, my god.

514
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.680
Yeah yeah, and that Ortegas had no idea what that meant.

515
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.240
She was like, you had dead people, yea dead people. Yeah.

516
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.079
Oh, Pelly is an easter egg in herself. I mean

517
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.519
you just you can spend quite a long a time

518
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.279
just looking at her room picking out some of the

519
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:33.759
fun stuff that she's got laying around.

520
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:38.039
She's an easter basket. Yeah, She's got the whole thing.

521
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.359
All right, Well, speaking of a lot of a lot

522
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.680
of amazing crew members on here, which one do each

523
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.039
of you feel shined the most?

524
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.119
Dave will go to you first.

525
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.880
There's no doubt in my mind it's James T. Kirk

526
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.720
uh in this one. You know, getting to see his weaknesses,

527
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.880
his strength, getting to see that Kirk, you know, Philly

528
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.119
throwing to bubble up. We become the Kirk that we know,

529
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.720
the relationships that he's already making with the O G

530
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.279
crew that you know he doesn't know, with the head

531
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.359
for him, but they are the ones who are going

532
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.319
to become a family, but become the crew that we

533
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:17.519
know that runs the Enterprise without question. And Wesley did

534
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.799
an amazing job as Kirk in this episode. He always does,

535
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.680
and I cannot wait to see more of him.

536
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.119
Yeah, totally agree, Wayne, what about you?

537
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.839
I agree one hundred percent. This is Kirk's episode. I mean,

538
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.319
they did a great job of making sure this is

539
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.519
still a Stranger World episode, but this curtain stole the

540
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.759
show on this I mean, getting to see the beginnings

541
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.079
of the Captain Kirk that we would know from the

542
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.319
original series right here, you know, is where it all started.

543
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.839
You know, his new interactions meeting some of the other

544
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.880
characters for the first time. His interactions was Spock, you know,

545
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.640
it's not quite friendship yet, but I'm pretty sure we

546
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.920
were at the respect stage right now. It's coming. The

547
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.240
friendship is coming. I love that. I think that that

548
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.519
was my favorite part of the entire episode, and it

549
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:02.720
shine throughout.

550
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.759
I'll go three for three and totally agree it's it's

551
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:07.279
James D.

552
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:07.599
Kirk.

553
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:12.440
I think the writing and the performance from Paul Wesley

554
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.519
is phenomenal. He is doing exactly what I think this

555
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:20.480
franchise needs, which is to help infuse a little bit

556
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:26.519
more connective lifeblood into the franchise. Not that I think

557
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.240
it's hurting for it in any way, shape or form,

558
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.480
but it is giving another connection, another way in for.

559
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.799
People to absorb it.

560
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.200
And he's giving a reason behind, Like what I had

561
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.440
said with the you know things that might seem like

562
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.640
ego before, you can see the reason for some of

563
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.880
those things just through this one episode, let alone everything

564
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:47.880
else we've seen from him. One thing that stood out

565
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.640
to me is that he infuses the what I would

566
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.279
say is but like the stereotypical Shatner speech pattern yep

567
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.160
with Kirk whenever you see him, you know, hear him mocked.

568
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.480
He's kind of like, Scotty, what do we do in

569
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.920
this situation? They's going to like pause. He uses it

570
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:09.000
to great effect in here, because he's trying to say,

571
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.759
like Scotty and in that silence, say I want to

572
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.079
focus on your idea. What do you think we can do?

573
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:15.480
Right?

574
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:20.200
He just infuses that ever so slightly not too exaggerated

575
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:23.240
effect because we heard that in the previous episode, which

576
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.880
is a lot of fun, but you can see the

577
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.200
reasoning for it, and you can kind of infer your

578
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.799
own meeting behind why he does certain things, so that

579
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.039
when you get to hopefully that new series where we're

580
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.119
following Kirk and his crew growing that relationship and starting

581
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.720
to work together, that it all makes a lot more

582
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.400
sense and it makes people want to go back to

583
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.160
the original series and say I want more of this.

584
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.319
And speaking of Scotty, I mean, how about the scenes

585
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.559
there where he was questioning Kirk and you know, just like,

586
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.240
are you kidding me? This is your idea? Where's he going?

587
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.240
Why is he leaving the bridge? You know? And is

588
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.480
this I love that because right there in there you're

589
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.400
seeing a Scotty that we'd never really seen before. He

590
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.400
doesn't trust Kirk, he doesn't respect him, he doesn't understand him,

591
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.000
and you know what's coming down the road between the

592
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.319
two of them. So I thought that was fantastic as well.

593
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.920
Yeah, a lot of respect building here, not which with Spock,

594
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.680
but with Scott and your hur and all them. Yeah,

595
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.599
I mean we're you see the friendships coming, and you

596
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.839
see that that great crew that we we learned from

597
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.240
the original series. It's it's coming, and I hope we

598
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.160
get that series now. I wanted more than ever. We've

599
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.319
mentioned it before, but I think it's seeing new episodes

600
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.680
with them would be so wonderful.

601
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.279
And how about Horror coming to back for him? Yeah,

602
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.960
I forget about that too. You know, she said she

603
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.799
he helped me, he gave me a chance, So let's

604
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.839
do that. Let's do the same thing for him. M

605
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:47.799
love that.

606
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:48.359
That was great.

607
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.920
Well, I mean it's given such a reason for how

608
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.079
they interact, right like with a R with a Herrah,

609
00:30:55.160 --> 00:31:00.160
It's she's not just translating, she's not just managed the

610
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.960
communications channels. She's figuring out how to get people to talk,

611
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.440
and she's helping to make those kind of foster those

612
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.000
interpersonal dynamics, but then draw them from them and get

613
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.279
the real strength behind them to get people talking to

614
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:14.559
a solution they need to find.

615
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.039
She did it with Scotty in the last episode. Did

616
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.079
It's a great effect here.

617
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.759
I think when you bring up a great point about Scotty,

618
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.160
I think they're going to get to a point where

619
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.400
he says, I trust Kirk's instincts and I'll follow him

620
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.480
and I might even be able to kind of read

621
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.799
his mind and see where he's going with a certain thing.

622
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.440
But what he's asking in return is I need to

623
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.319
know why. I need to know how you want this

624
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.160
to work. I need to know why you're asking me

625
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.599
to do this so that I can understand how to

626
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.200
get around the issues that I've got because it'll take

627
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.720
me two days to do this. You want it in

628
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.079
two hours. But I got to know why. There's a

629
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.480
lot of things I want to see continue to develop there.

630
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:03.400
Absolutely, you brought up your Hera. This show, Strange New

631
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.720
Worlds has done more for the character of you her

632
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:11.119
since ever before, when Michelle Nichols was playing it. You know,

633
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.160
and I think this is one of the best things

634
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.319
to come out of this show. I've mentioned many times

635
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.799
before how much I love the Celia Rose Gooding's performance

636
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.519
as you were here, and this this just shows it.

637
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.559
It's one of my favorite characters, always has been. She

638
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.480
really does Michelle proud and I can't. I'm so happy

639
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.279
that they're giving her more than just the haling frequencies

640
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.279
open lines that she had before.

641
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:42.839
You totally agree, Well, along those lane, Along those lines, Wayne,

642
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.839
if there is a favorite character that you would want

643
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.480
to be in this episode, who would it be? Well?

644
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.720
I was going to say Kirk for the same reasons

645
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.720
as we just brought up, but then I started thinking

646
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.519
of the ending and how it's going to say with

647
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.279
him emotionally, and I changed my mind. So I decided

648
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:01.480
to choose Scottie. Why not because you know, he got

649
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.319
to meet the people that he's going to be forever

650
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.759
attached to, and he got to perform, like I mentioned before,

651
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.279
his very first engineering feat that'll give him the nickname

652
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.720
the Miracle Worker. I think he's so early in his

653
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.119
career and we all love love Scotty and the performance

654
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.759
that the actress giving, So yeah, I want to be him.

655
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:23.400
Dave, what about you?

656
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:26.279
I've already given this answer before, but I'm gonna say

657
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.680
it again, Pelly up, because I want to explore that

658
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.079
damn quarters of earth.

659
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.359
Right there with you. That's exactly what I was gonna say,

660
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.799
aside from the fact that she just seems to be having.

661
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.240
A blast, like yeah, not only does she have a

662
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.119
lot of stuff to explore, but she's giddy when she

663
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.519
says like, oh I haven't done this and say warned

664
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:48.000
for the dead, And she has a justification for all the.

665
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.200
Hoarding that she's doing in her room.

666
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:51.960
I don't think she'll ever have a use for that

667
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.240
hypnot a cat clock that feels the cat clock that

668
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.079
she has, but you know, there's a reason for keeping

669
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.359
all those phones. I'm sure that On is probably rolling

670
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:03.400
her eyes because she's like, great now, I'm never going

671
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.160
to take her talk her out of getting all of

672
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.200
her stuff out of storage and getting off the ship, right.

673
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:08.199
You know.

674
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.239
The first thing I thought of when I saw that

675
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.480
room is how the hell does she get all that

676
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:14.840
stuff on the enterprise? I mean, does should she carry

677
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.119
this all this this crap along with her all the

678
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.320
time everywhere she goes? And I just I could just

679
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.400
see them either beaming it all into the transporter room

680
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.039
and all these poor uh engineering people having to carry

681
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.519
all that stuff into her room. It's probably probably why

682
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.320
it's laying all over, but she just dumped it all

683
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.199
over there, you know, or you take care of it

684
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:35.639
and she don't care, you know, she just listens later.

685
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.559
It would be great if we could get a short

686
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.480
track following the lower deckers that inevitably have to haul

687
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:50.920
that stuff, yes, and losing the one thing that they shouldn't. Yeah, anyway,

688
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.239
any closing thoughts, guys.

689
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.440
No, just a great episode and I'm sure next week

690
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:57.880
will probably see the same thing. Hey, this is my

691
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.800
favorite episode again. They just keep topping themselves, man, and

692
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.519
it's been one hell of a ride this season already.

693
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.679
And next episode is that what we believe is going

694
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.519
to be that the documentary one, the what is star Fleet?

695
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:13.840
And there is a they did put it in a blurb.

696
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.239
I'm glad they're starting to do this. Paramount Leus's starting

697
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.039
to put a little blurbs about the episode. This time

698
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.280
it says Pike and his crew face on one and

699
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.159
scrutiny from a probing journalist while helping a war torn planet.

700
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.920
Oh yeah, it's got to be the documentary episode.

701
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.559
Yeah, it'd be interesting.

702
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.199
It is yep.

703
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.920
Cool. Well, thank you both as always, gentlemen.

704
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.920
It's always a pleasure, absolutely fun, fantastic, and.

705
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:37.679
Thank you listeners.

706
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.320
We'll be back next week for another episode and hopefully

707
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.320
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time for another episode of Phasers Set to.

716
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:12.119
Stunt you know what, do whatever the hell you guys want.

717
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:12.639
I'm out of.

718
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:13.559
Here, get out.

719
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.119
All right already?

720
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:23.400
Sure, okay, Dave, yes, it's been a long day, dude,

721
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.079
all right, I get to keep the energy going.

722
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.639
Say him here, okay three two one