Phasers Set To Stun: Section 31 Review

0:01 Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows, both new and old, to engage in debate about all things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt.

0:43 In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we continue to show our love for every quadrant of the expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, animation, movies, directors. And much more. Plotting the course, as always is your Core Trek crew. I'm Scott Hoffmann, I'm David Burns, and I'm Wayne Whiten. And in this episode, we're reviewing the newest Star Trek movie, which is also the first made for streaming Star Trek film, available only on Paramount Plus. Released on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. Session thirty one was written by Erica Lippold, Bo Yu and Kim and Craig Sweeney and directed by Olatundi Posunsami. Before we get into a spoiler filed review, let's give her initial thoughts. What would you say to someone who's thinking about seeing this one?

1:28 Wayne oh Yi, cause I dreaded you were gonna ask me that question. First. I didn't hate the film, so I would say, if you are interested in watching something different, then I would tune this film in. But don't expect a Star Trek film. I mean the way I felt, Dave, what about you? I would say, if this is your first time into Star Trek, stay away from it, go into watch something else at Star Trek. This is definitely different when it is correct, and we'll break that down a little bit later. If you're gonna stick with us, because we're gonna become spoiler after this. It was definitely a different Star Trek film.

2:14 Not even no Trek vibe hardly at all in this in my opinion, but we'll get to that a little later. Yeah, for sure, i'd say, anyone who's a fan of Emperor Giorgio from Star Trek Discovery, we'll probably want to see this movie out of curiosity. But I have a feeling this won't appeal to a lot of Star Trek fans. They certainly won't make new ones. I gotta say I was disappointed. So with that in. Mind, let's call for a red alert. We're diving into classified territory. If you want the movie unspoiled, go watch it and then come back to join us. We'll be waiting here. Let's break it down, Dave, Why don't you give us a summary of what this movie is all about. Section thirty one is a secret organization, another branch of star Fleet Intelligence that is utilized to go on missions to search out and identify potential dangers to the Federation.

3:00 In this mission, a secret device has been discovered, and Section thirty one needs its best agents, including reaching out and getting. Philip Georgiao to help if she is willing. That is, the. Agents of Section thirty one quickly uncover a plot that is from a place they never imagined that can lead to their deaths in a total destruction of the Federation and startfully. So I'm going to open this up with a statement or an argument if you're into law or anything like that. So this is like my opening case for this film. Why thank you? So? The comedy falls flat, feels forced at times, and even cringey. This was like a bad buddy cop film put in the world of trek. The characters, with the exception of a few, were just not to interesting and felt out of place. I like Georgia of course, and even Alec and Garrett, even though she just felt off, but I will give that to her youthfulness.

3:53 Here. Sam was predictable with a story that has been done to death. All the other characters keep them, to keep them, to be honest, I just didn't like any of them at all. The one I loved, Mel was here, and then I blinked and she was gone for good. I thought the CGI was phenomenal, but it just didn't feel like Star Trek at all. I really wish they'd go back to the time here we all want and love and give us legacy for crying out loud. I understand this is a test and trying new waters with Trek, but if you want to do this, this isn't the way to go about it. There was some really cool camera work Scott. I know we kind of talked about this off Mike.

4:35 I liked the twist of the camera when they were doing the hand to hand. Sure it was done a little bit too much. We went a little overboard like Zack Snyder here. And then I love the shot of going down the wooded hillside from Garrett to the other party searching for Zeh. I thought that was an outstanding camera shot. I like that they're testing. New things and in this I hope we continue to get films straight to Paramount Plus. I really do so. But I think the need to go back to the drawing board. Yeah, Wayne, what about you had this meet your traxpectations? Not really. I agree with a lot that David said. I don't hate the film. Don't don't get me wrong.

5:15 I didn't hate the film. I have to admit I was entertained slightly, but my my biggest problem with the film was the lack of Star Trek in it. You know, the look, the feel, the story, it's it just wasn't Trek, or at least Trek enough. You know. I applaud the writers and the producers for trying something new, something different, because you know, it needs to be done. We've were, what's sixty plus years, are almost sixty years now into Star Trek, so you know, I want new things to come around. But you know, I hope they don't just get discouraged by this because it's gotten a lot of really nasty reviews. I don't agree with all those reviews. I don't think it's that nasty, that bad, But I also don't think it's that great of a film.

6:02 You know, there has to be a balance, so you know, it needs to be a perfect balance, something new, something familiar in this film, and this was really lacking that. You know, it's it's just straight too far away from the source material. Made me wonder why they even called this a Star Trek film in the first place. I had a lot of high hopes for this film, we both did, but a lot of wrong decisions were made here. I just hope it doesn't put the nail in the coffin for the idea of more Star Trek TV movies, because the potential there is endless and I want to see more. I completely agree with you on that point. Why I hope this does not hurt that.

6:43 Yeah, and it is interesting how you know, I know this is meant to be a series at one point, and that makes a little bit more sense, Like there were these kind of chapters that they tossed into the movie, right, or little breaks in between certain segments. I know this was supposed to be set between original series and Next Generation. It was supposed to be kind of the origins of Section thirty one. I guess I was just expecting more of a section thirty one like we had seen in DS nine. Like we had seen a Discovery. It just didn't seem like we were getting a lot of you know, the Federation secrets you don't want to see kind of covert ops. It felt more like it was trying to be the Trek version of Suicide Squad.

7:28 I was thinking more like the A team. But you're right like that it did. Right, So, I mean, I've seen some comparisons that try to tie it to Guardians of the Galaxy, and I think that, you know, the similarities there between Guardians and Suicide Squad is a little bit more like it's a ragtag band of misfits that you know, gets by with pluck and you know, kind of snarky dialogue and they're all kind of quirky and they. Don't quite fit together. I guess that the Suicide Squad. Angle came around when Mel was killed and it kind of felt, I guess, trying to heighten the stakes of the danger a little bit, but it also just felt kind of a waste of a potential character.

8:11 Yeah, exactly how I felt. For me. It fell apart right around the time when Sam's character came back in that kind of Marvel Marvel's Ghost kind of thing. Before that, I guess I was. Expecting Georgia to be a little bit more like Small Bills Lionel Luther if you've watched that kind of that scheming puppet master who's always five steps ahead with the info and the power to control everybody around them, instead of the I feel like what we got more here was a little bit more and an action focused Georgio who would just kind of say things like, oh, a torture chamber, how lovely? Like it just seemed like it was lacking a little bit of the depth we could have gotten.

8:58 I will say I loved the opening of the film. I loved seeing her as a young girl and what she had to do. I mean that that was kind of creepy, you know when they said, what's the last thing that you have to do and then you know they all start choking up and realizing that she had to kill her family in order to you know, become that emperor to win that contest that she was involved in. So I loved all that. I thought that was incredible. So when I got there, I was like, all right, we're moving in the right direction. This is this might be a pretty good movie. Boy did it just fall apart fast after that? Yeah? Yeah, Well, I mean it felt like the sand connection was a bit predictable. As soon as I saw there was a masked figure, I was like, Oh, well, most likely it's going to be the person she left.

9:40 Behind, right right? The two made Donor or whatever that was. I feel like they had a lot of potential with the types of characters that were bringing in. So as soon as I heard Quasi mentioned as a comelloid, mm hmm, that felt like I had a lot of potential. Didn't use it correctly? Right, we haven't. Yeah, undiscovered the country, But even the and that the actor Sam Richardson I think did good in his scenes and had a lot of potential. I loved him in ted Lasso. The the transformation animation, I guess kind of left me one thing, like like why it was like a big flurry of yarn instead of like a smooth transition that we've seen with other shape characters.

10:25 Yeah, and who came up with these names? Buzz really? Really? Yeah? We should be a character that character in general? Yeah, we should probably get into that a little bit. Let's tell us your views on him. No, I just, oh my gosh it. That character irritated me to no end to them the beginning to end, even at the very beginning before I even knew who this character was. When they were in the bar and he's just laughing hysterically, I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna like this character. If this is the main character, one of the main characters, and sure enough it's part of the group, and I just couldn't. I just gritted my teeth every time he was on screen, that that accent, everything else, it irritated me like fingers on a chalkboard.

11:10 I'm sorry. You know, I don't usually pick apart, you know, film with and stuff like that, because and then I will I do find some good stuff in this. Don't get me wrong. I'm like Wayne, I didn't absolutely hate this wrot go tear it apart, but that character I absolutely hated. I agree with you there, that irish accent that he was creating, good Lord. That was bad. Oh. It was like he was was perpetually drunk every scene he was speaking. It was so irritating, and I don't I didn't like that character all. In fact, I was hoping that he would be killed off right away. Could he have not have gone in mail estate? Yeah, I'd rather have seen much more of her. Yeah, because we haven't seen a Dalton in a long time. Motion picture right picture, that's quite a bit.

11:52 Well. I think a couple of them appeared in like two and are Start Trek three and four, but they didn't have any lines but. Just trying to explore that species a little bit, and we got that taken away. But what we were given instead of, you know, focusing on fuzz, his accent felt very put on. Like in the original introduction scene when he was in a bar, I wasn't here in the accent, and then he's on the ship and it's there. Reminded me of somebody trying to be vigil Andy from Peacemaker. Yes, And once I found out he was just basically in a Meet Dave kind of suit like Eddie Murphy's movie, I just wasn't interested. I was like, so you're It almost felt like they just said, well, if it's Star Trek, we need to have a vulcan in here, But there was nothing vulcan about him other than the pointy ears and the the eyebrows.

12:44 So it was just disappointing I want to bring up the biggest problem I had with this too, with the character. Wise, I don't understand why they use the character of Rachel Garrett's in this film. That I really don't. I mean, they did nothing with it. No, you know, don't get me wrong. I think the actress, what was it that Casey role? She did a fantastic job at what she was given, you know, and I could see her as a younger Rachel Garrett from yesterday's enterprise. But what was the reason for including this character? You know, it was like the writers were setting around, say, oh, what would be cool to be put in this No, well, we'll use that character. You know, nothing came from it. And you know, they could have used any character and it would have been exactly the same thing, you know. I just I just there nothing was gained by by that, And if they don't continue with this storyline or make sequels, then there's been no character growth. Therefore, nothing's been added to this character or to star Trek.

13:40 You know. I have a feeling that's what they were hoping for, that if they were going to do a sequel or anything else, that they were going to eventually build her character and give us the reason why she's there, but the fact that we got nothing in ninety minutes of this character except that we know where she's from because of yesterday's enterprise. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Nothing else, So I agree, I mean. You know, yeah, I mean yeah, maybe if they thought, oh, we're gonna have sequels, we'll do it later, but that's just bad writing in my opinion. You know, at least at least give us something thrust a bone here or something. Yeah, well, it seems like it could have easily been swapped out for a different character, knowing that this is not going to be the series it was intended to be.

14:22 But if that was the case, maybe there's more exploit more place to explore Garrett. But Garrett has become such a such a big recognizable character from just one episode in Yesterday's enterprise, that it seems like, no, it's kind of waste the potential, Like why would we see her again someplace else because we've already tried to see her here. I don't know when I heard her character was in this, I thought they were going to do something with yesterday's enterprise, like there's gonna be some kind of involvement that section thirty one was going in to investigate. But no, not even Well. There's a potential that wasted potential for a lot of intrigue there because we only got a little of it. But it was sent back in time and altered the timeline entirely, so they had the potential to kind of explore that depth a little bit more, kind of the taste we got with tashi Our's daughter.

15:11 But yeah, and you mentioned earlier the time period this movie is supposed to take place. It doesn't even feel like that time period at all. Yes, yes, there there's another example, great example, the fact that this doesn't feel like Star Trek. You know, we're right in the middle, right smack in the middle between like let's see, I'm discovered country and next generation. Yet nothing looks like that. Nothing. I mean there's not even the computers non, none of the computers even match what should be in that time frame. Now, you know, I'll mention later in the Easter Eggs. They did do their research, but it you just can't find it. It's it's doesn't really show, you know, there's just nothing there. They like I said before, they didn't throw us a bone, a star Trek fans, you know, give us something.

15:52 Yeah, I feel like you could easily remove the lines and the sounds that remind you that it's a Star Trek and it would just as easily become some other kind of alien super suicide squad type. Yeah. Absolutely. Every once in a while they would throw in a tri quarter sound. Every once in a while Garrett would mention the Federation. But it felt like there was no Federation presence whatsoever. And it felt like this should have been an opportunity to kind of, like, I don't know, go in between the lines of you know, what you're supposed to do in the Federation, but it just kind of mentioned like, oh, they happen to exist, but they're not here, so we don't care. And what ird And what really irritated me as well is when we got towards the end and then the allowed the Star Star Trek theme into it. Yeah, I'm like, no, why no, why are you doing that again? Throwing us a bone right there, just to say, hey, this is Star Trek, so let's put the little theme in here so it'll make them feel like it's Star Trek. No.

16:55 It did not work. It did not It felt out of place. And that that theme that they used is the enterprise theme. Yeah, you know, that's the that's the bit of music we hear when we see the Enterprise, and I didn't see the Enterprise in this. Yeah. So there's there's one more character that I wanted to talk about. Zeph confused me a lot. It felt like if a if a football player was trying to cosplay as a borg. In a very messy way. Okay good, almost like a you know, someone from a Mad Max type universe that's wearing spare tires and also other kind of stuff is cosplaying as a borg in Federation universe, but there wasn't anything borg about him. It kind of seemed to imply that people that just want to augment their bodies with technology. But if you're making him that densely packed in it, a casual Star Trek fan who has maybe seen a couple of the movies would come into this, I think, and say like, oh, he's supposed to be a borg, even though it has nothing to do with that.

17:59 That was my first in thought was this is a board. Until we started getting to know the character, it's too early for the board. It is, right, but it's just it's it just doesn't match. I mean, that's we've never seen anything like that on Star Trek, so why would someone do that. I mean the same thing with the character of Fuzz that just didn't look very Star Trek at all. Well, and where their characters intersected, it seemed very predictable too, like, oh, here's a you know, a Nani species that can control technology really easily, and here's somebody who was basically like a chocolate dipped banana that was dipped in technology. Yeah, he's he's going to be controlled by a buzz Ye surprised by this, So just a little bit disappointing.

18:44 Now, I will, you know, I know we're kind of turning it apart right now. Now I will see the out of phase fight that they did on the space station. I thought that was cool. As hell, because that's a cool application of the technology, right yeah. Yeah, And I love that whole sequence as they're moving through space station and fighting. I love that. So that whole sequence was fantastic. Oh yeah, I will say that that camera has been that you've lived to before. I think that was really useful. The first couple of times, the next couple of subsequent times, I just felt it was a little nauseating. Yeah, I'm just gonna le Okay, do you have to stop the fight? Also, if if they they have something that's been phased, that is dropped on the floor, why wouldn't it keep passing through the floor the same way when it was kicked to the side, it kind of skidded through the wall.

19:31 A questions, all good questions. Well, that was a question I think we brought up when a lot of people's brought up. Remember when la Forge and Row were out of phase in that one episode where they thought they were dead. You know, they didn't fall through the the They could walk right through the walls, but they didn't fall through the floor. I think, just spin your disbelief. I don't know exactly. There's probably a Neil de grass Tyson version where it's kind of like as soon as they phased, the ship just leaves and they're just splitting out there in space, nothing else to do. All right. Well, yeah, I know we've got a little bit more to say about this. Let's take a quick break and let's have some thoughts on some. Of the casting. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back.

20:11 I want to talk a little bit about cast because, as you said, you know, I think Michelle Yo Amario Hardwick did a fine job. They did a lot of people to define they get in the roles that they were cast in. It just didn't seem like we were giving them that much attention. Along those lines, we saw one of our favorite actresses come back at the very end as an Easter egg, Jamie Lee Curtis. You know, I feel so sorry for her. She's an Academy We're winner now, so I mean, she she's earned whatever she wants to do now. And you know, she's from my favorite horror franchise, Halloween obviously. But first off, I don't know if either one of you guys have seen the movie Borderlands that she was in.

20:55 It was awful, terrible. Yeah, and now she gets this little bit as control at the end of this just it was and I'm not blaming Jenie Lee Curtis for this. I just I did not like that guest appearance. I did not. It just did not work for me at all. I mean, as a as a Trekky, I'm like, oh my god, Jamie Lee Curtis is in Star Trek and then as a Trekky I'm like, oh, it's section thirty one. It's a pity that she couldn't have been in something else. Right as a captain or an admiral, that would have been fantastic. Yeah, great, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think Zeph's overused tech. Maybe kind of jaded toward the tech based makeup that I saw on her character. I think I was just general in general, kind of jaded toward the end of this movie. It felt to me like she could fallen asleep in a pile of aluminum oil and woke up some of it stuck to her face. It just seemed like a bit of wasted potential. But you know, at the same time, I don't really want to see a follow up series or a sequel to this much rather see them do something different. Now we've been saying this for a long time. If if we want different from Star Trek, it would be great to see a lower.

22:11 Decks animated movie. Yeah. I think along those lines, I would love to see them continue to try different things. But I wouldn't take any notes from this to do so, would you agree? Oh, I take notes, take notes on how to do it, you know, learn learn from your mistakes and try again and hopefully we get something that can be that's better. You know, there's there's I understand what they're trying to do. I do, I do. I applaud them for trying to do something different. Okay, but you have millions of Trekkies out there, and. We all know what we love, what we want. I granted, you know, we need to make things different, change things like, as you use the term, Wayne, throw us a bone, give us something that we love that is Star Trek in it somewhere that's gonna make it feel give it that vibe that is Star Trek, and we will appreciate it more. Yeah, none of that was here, as you said, Wayne, and made me. Really it just turned me off of this movie. I did not like it.

23:19 I didn't hate it. But as a Star Trek, I'm never gonna go back and watch this again. I will not. There's no way. Yeah, yeah, you hit it right there. I don't see. I'm glad I saw it just just as a completist, but I'd have no desire to go see this film again. No. Well, and what's also interesting, as as a father, I had thought about making this our Friday night movie. Well, watch this new Star Trek movie. I've never seen it, you've never seen it could be kind of exciting, let's go through. And I'm really glad that I didn't, because I feel like it would have wasted the night because I don't think it was particularly good as a standalone sci fi movie, and it didn't feel like the right kind of taste of Star Trek. And you know, we're all very passionate about this franchise, and I think as much as we're excited to see new things come out, it's also one where, you know, when we see them canceling series or having a hard time getting things off the ground, a fear that it's going to go away in some form or another. Right just be so deluded or delayed that we don't see the stuff that we're yearning for. I hope this doesn't set that back. And I don't think I would recommend this to a non Trek fan, to say, let's introduce you to this universe.

24:38 I don't think it would be understood. They would never visit any other Star Trek if you did that, No way, right. So I mean just in behind the scenes facts, I know in a nutshell. I won't go into depth because there's a lot of detail to this, but it was originally intended to be a spinoff series for Georgia for Emperor Georgio. Sorry, but development complications sitting limbo for a long while, the idea came back. The idea came up back in twenty nineteen. COVID nineteen caused significant delays to it. I will say the good news that come out of that is that when given the choice between this and another Discovery spinoff, they chose to move forward with strange New worlds.

25:19 So I'm grateful for that. I'm very grateful for that. Yes, yeah, but there was a lot of expectation with this. There's a lot of setup for this, and it just didn't hit. It's funny because I remember when we saw the trailer for the first time, we all had that initial reaction of like, this doesn't feel like Star Trek, and sure not. It kept that vibe, it really did. What I found very interesting about this is this is the first time in the history of Star Trek we did not have a star Fleet officer in uniform and no Federation starships. Ye none, even on the first the opening what do you call it, the open, not even the credits, but kind of that interlude that they make where it has the swooshing chip. They had that garbage scale kind of flying through, so you didn't even get it.

26:08 There, No, not even there. And the music itself too. I like the the the opening music that we got when they're showing the paramount symbol. You like that that grinding sound whatever that was. That like got me excited, like, oh man, this is gonna be interesting. This is gonna be you know, a static exciting. And then I really don't remember a lot of the music. Un told the Star Trek music came in. I don't either, and it was composed by Jeff Russo, who's been a key part of Discovery Picard Strange New World. Yeah, he's ingrained in Star Trek. It's going to be very hard to separate the two though. Yeah, yeah, I thought he did it. He did a decent job, but you're right, it's it's very unmemorable. It's in the style that he used, especially in the early years of Discovery. But what I really felt his main theme that he used over and over again in this wast it a little bit too close to Jerry Goldsmith's Born theme. In fact, it's the one that he created in first context, it's missing just one note away from it just came to a little dud. Too close for me because every time I heard that theme, I expected one to step out from the shadows or something. And you know, it's not a bad score. I I'd listen to it separate from the visuals.

27:23 Yes, maybe there was a pair of board that walked into the bar that we just didn't see. They took a look. Around, saw zeph and were like, we'll just we'll go down the street. We'll come back to you. No, obviously this has some Easter eggs in it. They used a lot of species that we've seen before. Wayne, what kind of death did you see? Well, you know, we didn't see much Star Trek in this, but what was mentioned the writers really did do their research on what we got. I do want to bring out that the star date of this movie was shows that it took place in the year twenty three twenty four. That places it forty years before Encounter Farpoint, and it also places it the same year that Beverly Crusher was born. Now, the character of Sam was mentioned a couple of times on Star Trek Discovery. His name was actually mentioned in the episode of Tara Firmer Part two. This first time we actually saw the character. Though. Then there's that map of the galaxy contains a lot of familiar locations mentioned on it. Romulus, trill Warf three five to nine, Soul which is where Earth is betaz ed, the Badlins, tal Setti, Free Haven, many many more. That's just the ones I caught in a brief glance. Now. One of the title cards that appears on screen mentions the Treaty of Katan.

28:42 This was first mentioned in the Star Trek Enterprise episode Fallen Hero was negotiated by an ambassador of Velar. That episode was very vague about what that treaty did, so the section thirty one writers had a blank slate to create anything with that one. The character of Virgil is a charm, which I believe is the first time that we've seen in another member of that race since the original series episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield way back in the nineteen sixties. And of course, as mentioned before, Quasi was a camelloid. We haven't seen one of them since Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country, and mel is a Dalton we haven't seen one of those since the Motion picture although they've been mentioned quite a few times in another series. Now Dotta no mentions that he was going to sell the Godsend to the Minotions. This is that race that was mentioned in Star Trek the Next Generations episode the Arsenal of Freedom, but the events of this film must take place before that rice that race was wiped out by the Echo Papa six oh seven weapon, and then finally Control at the end sends a team on a mission to Turkana four. This is planet where the an Earth Colony had a civil war and it caused the law to break down and violence to take over.

30:00 And it's also the birthplace of Tasha Yar. Interesting well, knowing that this was a movie that is I mean, the title is section thirty one. I think there were certain expectations wh would have that kind of familiar look and feel kind of wondering if one of you is going to recommend to someone to look for a different view of section thirty one in Trek, or if this is their first exposure and the possibility of them kind of rolling their eyes when they hear the phrase again, where would you recommend them to get another view of section thirty one? I think Wall grew a Deep Space nine Yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, I was going to bring up two episodes in particular. Season six there's an episode called Inquisition, and season seven there's Extreme Measures. At least one of those includes doctor Julian Basheer. There's some kind of interactive action with him and Luther Sloan, who's played by one of my favorites, William Sadler from Tales from Crypt Demon Night. Yes, it did an amazing job of that kind of covert ups kind of organization that we saw later in Star Trek Discovery and a few other places. But I think it's a great concept. It's just it didn't come through here, correct.

31:14 I agree, And it's well used on Deep Space nine. The idea of the secret organization acting from the shadows is very well done in those episodes. If you want to see more of Section thirty one, you want to see how it was done before House done right, they'll watch those episodes. Are really really good episodes. Yes, well they didn't come I don't know specific episodes, but there's elements of them that comes up in Enterprise. Yeah, the episode is Affliction. It was during the fourth season. It was actually part of a three parter that featured the augments. Prince Speiner guest appeared in that that also the whole three part is a really good story. I would also recommend that to go watch, and it would give you a lot a little behind the scenes and and and backstory. Too many things that do happen in the Trek universe.

32:07 Uh did they have anything to do with Picard season three? Without spoiling anything, not. That I'm aware of. I don't remember them being mentioned. And the place where a lot of different. We we can't give that away too much. They do have that, Yes, you're right, I do remember. Yeah, yeah, so yes, we get fine line right here. We can't talk about that. Move on, move on, all right, I just just go watch that whole season. Yes, you would love that. Any parting thoughts on this one, There are some good things about it, you know. I kind of mentioned, you know, the CGI, some of the camera work, some of the actors, and I don't blame any of the actors. They all did what they were given. And some of the actors were to get as nice as see gear even though they didn't utilize.

32:55 Her the way I was hoping they would. I'll leave it at that. That's pretty much all I've got Wayne. What about you? Yeah, I mean, if you just want, if you have time and you want to watch a decent, okay action film, then go ahead and watch this. Don't expect much Star Trek, you know, don't don't expect this, you know, to to hit that that Star Trek vibe. But I mean it entertained me. Yeah, And I guess I would just add a parting thought that if you're a Trek fan and you're thinking about introducing somebody to the trick with this one, do so with caution. I know it's different tastes apply to different people, totally fair, and I don't want to bash something if this is, you know, something that somebody loves.

33:40 From my perspective, somebody who grew up with the next generation DS nine, all these are the kind of experiences it didn't quite hit. So I wouldn't want to start somebody on this if I was trying to hook them on track well. As always, thank you gentlemen for being on this and talking through the movie. Always a pleasure, always pleasure, right. And thank you for our listeners for joining us. We will be back very soon. We're coming back on February twelfth to talk about the flip side of the film universe. We'll get into one. Of the most iconic films in the series, Star Trek two, The Wrath of con Haling. Frequencies are always open for you to share your thoughts and questions on Facebook, Instagram, and your favorite social channels. Email us at a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com, find us online at a film by podcast dot com, and if you're looking for more exclusive content and swag, send some Latinum our way through Patreon. See you next time for another episode of Phasers Set to done