Jan. 28, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Section 31 Review

Phasers Set To Stun: Section 31 Review
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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at television shows, animation, movies, and much more! A new Star Trek film has been released directly to Paramount+ and our crew is here to offer up their spoiler-full review for Section 31!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage in debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt.

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In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we

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continue to show our love for every quadrant of the

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expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, animation, movies, directors.

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And much more.

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Plotting the course, as always is your Core Trek crew.

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I'm Scott Hoffmann, I'm David Burns, and I'm Wayne Whiten.

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And in this episode, we're reviewing the newest Star Trek movie,

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which is also the first made for streaming Star Trek film,

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available only on Paramount Plus. Released on January twenty fourth,

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twenty twenty five. Session thirty one was written by Erica Lippold,

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Bo Yu and Kim and Craig Sweeney and directed by

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Olatundi Posunsami. Before we get into a spoiler filed review,

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let's give her initial thoughts. What would you say to

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someone who's thinking about seeing this one?

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Wayne oh Yi, cause I dreaded you were gonna ask

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me that question. First. I didn't hate the film, so

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I would say, if you are interested in watching something different,

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then I would tune this film in. But don't expect

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a Star Trek film. I mean the way I felt, Dave,

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what about you?

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I would say, if this is your first time into

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Star Trek, stay away from it, go into watch something

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else at Star Trek. This is definitely different when it

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is correct, and we'll break that down a little bit later.

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If you're gonna stick with us, because we're gonna become

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spoiler after this. It was definitely a different Star Trek film.

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Not even no Trek vibe hardly at all in this

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in my opinion, but we'll get to that a little later.

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Yeah, for sure, i'd say, anyone who's a fan of

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Emperor Giorgio from Star Trek Discovery, we'll probably want to

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see this movie out of curiosity.

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But I have a feeling this won't appeal to a

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lot of Star Trek fans.

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They certainly won't make new ones. I gotta say I

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was disappointed.

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So with that in.

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Mind, let's call for a red alert. We're diving into

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classified territory. If you want the movie unspoiled, go watch

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it and then come back to join us. We'll be

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waiting here. Let's break it down, Dave, Why don't you

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give us a summary of what this movie is all about.

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Section thirty one is a secret organization, another branch of

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star Fleet Intelligence that is utilized to go on missions

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to search out and identify potential dangers to the Federation.

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In this mission, a secret device has been discovered, and

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Section thirty one needs its best agents, including reaching out

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and getting.

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Philip Georgiao to help if she is willing.

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That is, the.

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Agents of Section thirty one quickly uncover a plot that

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is from a place they never imagined that can lead

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to their deaths in a total destruction of the Federation

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and startfully. So I'm going to open this up with

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a statement or an argument if you're into law or

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anything like that. So this is like my opening case

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for this film.

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Why thank you?

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So?

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The comedy falls flat, feels forced at times, and even cringey.

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This was like a bad buddy cop film put in

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the world of trek. The characters, with the exception of

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a few, were just not to interesting and felt out

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of place. I like Georgia of course, and even Alec

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and Garrett, even though she just felt off, but I

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will give that to her youthfulness.

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Here.

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Sam was predictable with a story that has been done

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to death.

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All the other characters keep them, to keep them, to

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be honest, I just didn't like any of them at all.

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The one I loved, Mel was here, and then I

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blinked and she was gone for good. I thought the

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CGI was phenomenal, but it just didn't feel like Star

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Trek at all. I really wish they'd go back to

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the time here we all want and love and give

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us legacy for crying out loud. I understand this is

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a test and trying new waters with Trek, but if

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you want to do this, this isn't the way to

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go about it. There was some really cool camera work Scott.

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I know we kind of talked about this off Mike.

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I liked the twist of the camera when they were

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doing the hand to hand. Sure it was done a

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little bit too much. We went a little overboard like

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Zack Snyder here. And then I love the shot of

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going down the wooded hillside from Garrett to the other

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party searching for Zeh.

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I thought that was an outstanding camera shot. I like

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that they're testing.

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New things and in this I hope we continue to

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get films straight to Paramount Plus.

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I really do so. But I think the need to

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go back to the drawing board.

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Yeah, Wayne, what about you had this meet your traxpectations?

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Not really. I agree with a lot that David said.

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I don't hate the film. Don't don't get me wrong.

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I didn't hate the film. I have to admit I

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was entertained slightly, but my my biggest problem with the

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film was the lack of Star Trek in it. You know,

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the look, the feel, the story, it's it just wasn't Trek,

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or at least Trek enough.

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You know.

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I applaud the writers and the producers for trying something new,

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something different, because you know, it needs to be done.

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We've were, what's sixty plus years, are almost sixty years

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now into Star Trek, so you know, I want new

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things to come around. But you know, I hope they

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don't just get discouraged by this because it's gotten a

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lot of really nasty reviews. I don't agree with all

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those reviews. I don't think it's that nasty, that bad,

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But I also don't think it's that great of a film.

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You know, there has to be a balance, so you know,

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it needs to be a perfect balance, something new, something

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familiar in this film, and this was really lacking that.

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You know, it's it's just straight too far away from

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the source material. Made me wonder why they even called

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this a Star Trek film in the first place. I

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had a lot of high hopes for this film, we

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both did, but a lot of wrong decisions were made here.

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I just hope it doesn't put the nail in the

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coffin for the idea of more Star Trek TV movies,

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because the potential there is endless and I want to

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see more.

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I completely agree with you on that point. Why I

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hope this does not hurt that.

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Yeah, and it is interesting how you know, I know

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this is meant to be a series at one point,

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and that makes a little bit more sense, Like there

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were these kind of chapters that they tossed into the movie, right,

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or little breaks in between certain segments. I know this

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was supposed to be set between original series and Next Generation.

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It was supposed to be kind of the origins of

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Section thirty one. I guess I was just expecting more

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of a section thirty one like we had seen in

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DS nine.

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Like we had seen a Discovery.

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It just didn't seem like we were getting a lot

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of you know, the Federation secrets you don't want to

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see kind of covert ops. It felt more like it

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was trying to be the Trek version of Suicide Squad.

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I was thinking more like the A team. But you're

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right like that it did.

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Right, So, I mean, I've seen some comparisons that try

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to tie it to Guardians of the Galaxy, and I

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think that, you know, the similarities there between Guardians and

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Suicide Squad is a little bit more like it's a

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ragtag band of misfits that you know, gets by with

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pluck and you know, kind of snarky dialogue and they're

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all kind of quirky and they.

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Don't quite fit together. I guess that the Suicide Squad.

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Angle came around when Mel was killed and it kind

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of felt, I guess, trying to heighten the stakes of

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the danger a little bit, but it also just felt

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kind of a waste of a potential character.

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Yeah, exactly how I felt.

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For me.

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It fell apart right around the time when Sam's character

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came back in that kind of Marvel Marvel's Ghost kind

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of thing.

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Before that, I guess I was.

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Expecting Georgia to be a little bit more like Small

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Bills Lionel Luther if you've watched that kind of that

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scheming puppet master who's always five steps ahead with the

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info and the power to control everybody around them, instead

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of the I feel like what we got more here

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was a little bit more and an action focused Georgio

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who would just kind of say things like, oh, a

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torture chamber, how lovely? Like it just seemed like it

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was lacking a little bit of the depth we could

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have gotten.

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I will say I loved the opening of the film.

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I loved seeing her as a young girl and what

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she had to do. I mean that that was kind

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of creepy, you know when they said, what's the last

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thing that you have to do and then you know

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they all start choking up and realizing that she had

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to kill her family in order to you know, become

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that emperor to win that contest that she was involved in.

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So I loved all that. I thought that was incredible.

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So when I got there, I was like, all right,

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we're moving in the right direction. This is this might

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be a pretty good movie. Boy did it just fall

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apart fast after that?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, Well, I mean it felt like the sand connection

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was a bit predictable. As soon as I saw there

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was a masked figure, I was like, Oh, well, most

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likely it's going to be the person she left.

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Behind, right right? The two made Donor or whatever that was.

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I feel like they had a lot of potential with

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the types of characters that were bringing in. So as

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soon as I heard Quasi mentioned as a comelloid, mm hmm,

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that felt like I had a lot of potential.

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Didn't use it correctly? Right, we haven't.

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Yeah, undiscovered the country, But even the and that the

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actor Sam Richardson I think did good in his scenes

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and had a lot of potential.

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I loved him in ted Lasso.

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The the transformation animation, I guess kind of left me

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one thing, like like why it was like a big

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flurry of yarn instead of like a smooth transition that

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we've seen with other shape characters.

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Yeah, and who came up with these names? Buzz really?

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Really?

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Yeah?

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We should be a character that character in general?

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Yeah, we should probably get into that a little bit.

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Let's tell us your views on him.

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No, I just, oh my gosh it.

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That character irritated me to no end to them the

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beginning to end, even at the very beginning before I

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even knew who this character was. When they were in

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the bar and he's just laughing hysterically, I'm like, all right,

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I'm not gonna like this character. If this is the

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main character, one of the main characters, and sure enough

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it's part of the group, and I just couldn't. I

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just gritted my teeth every time he was on screen,

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that that accent, everything else, it irritated me like fingers

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on a chalkboard.

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I'm sorry.

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You know, I don't usually pick apart, you know, film

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with and stuff like that, because and then I will

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I do find some good stuff in this. Don't get

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me wrong. I'm like Wayne, I didn't absolutely hate this

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wrot go tear it apart, but that character I absolutely hated.

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I agree with you there, that irish accent that he

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was creating, good Lord.

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That was bad.

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It was like he was was perpetually drunk every scene

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he was speaking. It was so irritating, and I don't

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I didn't like that character all. In fact, I was

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hoping that he would be killed off right away. Could

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he have not have gone in mail estate? Yeah, I'd

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rather have seen much more of her.

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Yeah, because we haven't seen a Dalton in a long time.

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Motion picture right picture, that's quite a bit.

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Well.

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I think a couple of them appeared in like two

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and are Start Trek three and four, but they didn't

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have any lines but.

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Just trying to explore that species a little bit, and

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we got that taken away. But what we were given

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instead of, you know, focusing on fuzz, his accent felt

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very put on. Like in the original introduction scene when

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he was in a bar, I wasn't here in the accent,

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and then he's on the ship and it's there. Reminded

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me of somebody trying to be vigil Andy from Peacemaker. Yes,

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And once I found out he was just basically in

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a Meet Dave kind of suit like Eddie Murphy's movie,

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I just wasn't interested. I was like, so you're It

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almost felt like they just said, well, if it's Star Trek,

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we need to have a vulcan in here, But there

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was nothing vulcan about him other than the pointy ears

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and the the eyebrows.

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So it was just disappointing I want to bring up

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the biggest problem I had with this too, with the character. Wise,

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I don't understand why they use the character of Rachel

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Garrett's in this film. That I really don't. I mean,

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they did nothing with it. No, you know, don't get

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me wrong. I think the actress, what was it that

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Casey role? She did a fantastic job at what she

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was given, you know, and I could see her as

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a younger Rachel Garrett from yesterday's enterprise. But what was

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the reason for including this character? You know, it was

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like the writers were setting around, say, oh, what would

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be cool to be put in this No, well, we'll

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use that character. You know, nothing came from it. And

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you know, they could have used any character and it

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would have been exactly the same thing, you know. I

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just I just there nothing was gained by by that,

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And if they don't continue with this storyline or make sequels,

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then there's been no character growth. Therefore, nothing's been added

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to this character or to star Trek.

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You know.

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I have a feeling that's what they were hoping for,

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that if they were going to do a sequel or

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anything else, that they were going to eventually build her

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character and give us the reason why she's there, but

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the fact that we got nothing in ninety minutes of

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this character except that we know where she's from because

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of yesterday's enterprise.

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That's it. Yeah, that's it. Nothing else, So I agree,

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I mean.

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You know, yeah, I mean yeah, maybe if they thought, oh,

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we're gonna have sequels, we'll do it later, but that's

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just bad writing in my opinion. You know, at least

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at least give us something thrust a bone here or something.

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Yeah, well, it seems like it could have easily been

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swapped out for a different character, knowing that this is

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not going to be the series it was intended to be.

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But if that was the case, maybe there's more exploit

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more place to explore Garrett. But Garrett has become such

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a such a big recognizable character from just one episode

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in Yesterday's enterprise, that it seems like, no, it's kind

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of waste the potential, Like why would we see her

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again someplace else because we've already tried to see her here.

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I don't know when I heard her character was in this,

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I thought they were going to do something with yesterday's enterprise,

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like there's gonna be some kind of involvement that section

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thirty one was going in to investigate.

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But no, not even Well.

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There's a potential that wasted potential for a lot of

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intrigue there because we only got a little of it.

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But it was sent back in time and altered the

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timeline entirely, so they had the potential to kind of

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explore that depth a little bit more, kind of the

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taste we got with tashi Our's daughter.

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But yeah, and you mentioned earlier the time period this

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movie is supposed to take place.

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It doesn't even feel like that time period at all.

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Yes, yes, there there's another example, great example, the fact

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that this doesn't feel like Star Trek. You know, we're

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right in the middle, right smack in the middle between

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like let's see, I'm discovered country and next generation. Yet

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nothing looks like that. Nothing. I mean there's not even

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the computers non, none of the computers even match what

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should be in that time frame. Now, you know, I'll

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mention later in the Easter Eggs. They did do their research,

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but it you just can't find it. It's it's doesn't

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really show, you know, there's just nothing there. They like

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I said before, they didn't throw us a bone, a

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star Trek fans, you know, give us something.

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Yeah, I feel like you could easily remove the lines

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and the sounds that remind you that it's a Star

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Trek and it would just as easily become some other

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kind of alien super suicide squad type.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Every once in a while they would throw in a

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tri quarter sound. Every once in a while Garrett would

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mention the Federation. But it felt like there was no

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Federation presence whatsoever. And it felt like this should have

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been an opportunity to kind of, like, I don't know,

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go in between the lines of you know, what you're

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supposed to do in the Federation, but it just kind

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of mentioned like, oh, they happen to exist, but they're

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not here, so we don't care.

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And what ird And what really irritated me as well

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is when we got towards the end and then the

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allowed the Star Star Trek theme into it. Yeah, I'm like, no,

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why no, why are you doing that again? Throwing us

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a bone right there, just to say, hey, this is

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Star Trek, so let's put the little theme in here

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so it'll make them feel like it's Star Trek. No.

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It did not work. It did not It felt out

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of place.

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And that that theme that they used is the enterprise theme. Yeah,

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you know, that's the that's the bit of music we

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hear when we see the Enterprise, and I didn't see

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the Enterprise in this.

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Yeah.

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So there's there's one more character that I wanted to

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talk about. Zeph confused me a lot. It felt like

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if a if a football player was trying to cosplay

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as a borg.

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In a very messy way.

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Okay good, almost like a you know, someone from a

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Mad Max type universe that's wearing spare tires and also

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other kind of stuff is cosplaying as a borg in

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Federation universe, but there wasn't anything borg about him. It

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kind of seemed to imply that people that just want

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to augment their bodies with technology. But if you're making

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him that densely packed in it, a casual Star Trek

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fan who has maybe seen a couple of the movies

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would come into this, I think, and say like, oh,

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he's supposed to be a borg, even though it has

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nothing to do with that.

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That was my first in thought was this is a board.

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Until we started getting to know the character, it's too

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early for the board. It is, right, but it's just

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it's it just doesn't match.

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I mean, that's we've never seen anything like that on

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Star Trek, so why would someone do that. I mean

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the same thing with the character of Fuzz that just

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didn't look very Star Trek at all.

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Well, and where their characters intersected, it seemed very predictable too, like, oh,

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here's a you know, a Nani species that can control

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technology really easily, and here's somebody who was basically like

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a chocolate dipped banana that was dipped in technology. Yeah,

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he's he's going to be controlled by a buzz Ye

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surprised by this, So just a little bit disappointing.

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Now, I will, you know, I know we're kind of

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turning it apart right now. Now I will see the

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out of phase fight that they did on the space station.

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I thought that was cool.

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As hell, because that's a cool application of the technology,

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right yeah.

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Yeah, And I love that whole sequence as they're moving

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through space station and fighting.

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I love that. So that whole sequence was fantastic.

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Oh yeah, I will say that that camera has been

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that you've lived to before. I think that was really useful.

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The first couple of times, the next couple of subsequent times,

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I just felt it was a little nauseating.

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Yeah, I'm just gonna le Okay, do you have to

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stop the fight?

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Also, if if they they have something that's been phased,

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that is dropped on the floor, why wouldn't it keep

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passing through the floor the same way when it was

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kicked to the side, it kind of skidded through the wall.

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A questions, all good questions.

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Well, that was a question I think we brought up

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when a lot of people's brought up. Remember when la

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Forge and Row were out of phase in that one

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episode where they thought they were dead. You know, they

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didn't fall through the the They could walk right through

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the walls, but they didn't fall through the floor. I think,

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just spin your disbelief.

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I don't know exactly.

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There's probably a Neil de grass Tyson version where it's

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kind of like as soon as they phased, the ship

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just leaves and they're just splitting out there in space,

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nothing else to do.

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All right.

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Well, yeah, I know we've got a little bit more

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to say about this. Let's take a quick break and

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let's have some thoughts on some.

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Of the casting. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back.

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I want to talk a little bit about cast because,

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as you said, you know, I think Michelle Yo Amario

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Hardwick did a fine job. They did a lot of

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people to define they get in the roles that they

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were cast in. It just didn't seem like we were

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giving them that much attention. Along those lines, we saw

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one of our favorite actresses come back at the very

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end as an Easter egg, Jamie Lee Curtis.

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You know, I feel so sorry for her.

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She's an Academy We're winner now, so I mean, she

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she's earned whatever she wants to do now. And you know,

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she's from my favorite horror franchise, Halloween obviously. But first off,

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I don't know if either one of you guys have

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seen the movie Borderlands that she was in.

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It was awful, terrible.

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Yeah, and now she gets this little bit as control

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at the end of this just it was and I'm

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not blaming Jenie Lee Curtis for this. I just I

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did not like that guest appearance.

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I did not. It just did not work for me

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at all.

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I mean, as a as a Trekky, I'm like, oh

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my god, Jamie Lee Curtis is in Star Trek and

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then as a Trekky I'm like, oh, it's section thirty one.

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It's a pity that she couldn't have been in something else.

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Right as a captain or an admiral, that would have

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been fantastic.

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Yeah, great, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think Zeph's overused tech.

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Maybe kind of jaded toward the tech based makeup that

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I saw on her character. I think I was just

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general in general, kind of jaded toward the end of

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this movie. It felt to me like she could fallen

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asleep in a pile of aluminum oil and woke up

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some of it stuck to her face. It just seemed

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like a bit of wasted potential. But you know, at

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the same time, I don't really want to see a

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follow up series or a sequel to this much rather

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see them do something different. Now we've been saying this

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for a long time. If if we want different from

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Star Trek, it would be great to see a lower.

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Decks animated movie. Yeah.

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I think along those lines, I would love to see

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them continue to try different things. But I wouldn't take

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any notes from this to do so, would you agree?

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Oh, I take notes, take notes on how to do it,

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you know, learn learn from your mistakes and try again

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and hopefully we get something that can be that's better.

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You know, there's there's I understand what they're trying to do.

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I do, I do.

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I applaud them for trying to do something different. Okay,

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but you have millions of Trekkies out there, and.

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We all know what we love, what we want.

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I granted, you know, we need to make things different,

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change things like, as you use the term, Wayne, throw

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us a bone, give us something that we love that

479
00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.160
is Star Trek in it somewhere that's gonna make it

480
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:07.720
feel give it that vibe that is Star Trek, and

481
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.359
we will appreciate it more. Yeah, none of that was here,

482
00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.920
as you said, Wayne, and made me. Really it just

483
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.400
turned me off of this movie. I did not like it.

484
00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.559
I didn't hate it. But as a Star Trek, I'm

485
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:24.079
never gonna go back and watch this again.

486
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:24.720
I will not.

487
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.400
There's no way. Yeah, yeah, you hit it right there.

488
00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:31.200
I don't see. I'm glad I saw it just just

489
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.480
as a completist, but I'd have no desire to go

490
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:34.319
see this film again.

491
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:34.799
No.

492
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:40.240
Well, and what's also interesting, as as a father, I

493
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.920
had thought about making this our Friday night movie. Well,

494
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.000
watch this new Star Trek movie. I've never seen it,

495
00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:48.039
you've never seen it could be kind of exciting, let's

496
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.400
go through. And I'm really glad that I didn't, because

497
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:54.680
I feel like it would have wasted the night because

498
00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.200
I don't think it was particularly good as a standalone

499
00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:01.039
sci fi movie, and it didn't feel like the right

500
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.480
kind of taste of Star Trek. And you know, we're

501
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:08.000
all very passionate about this franchise, and I think as

502
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.160
much as we're excited to see new things come out,

503
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.480
it's also one where, you know, when we see them

504
00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:18.079
canceling series or having a hard time getting things off

505
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.200
the ground, a fear that it's going to go away

506
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:24.440
in some form or another. Right just be so deluded

507
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.680
or delayed that we don't see the stuff that we're

508
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:32.720
yearning for. I hope this doesn't set that back. And

509
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:34.759
I don't think I would recommend this to a non

510
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:38.039
Trek fan, to say, let's introduce you to this universe.

511
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:40.240
I don't think it would be understood.

512
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:43.720
They would never visit any other Star Trek if you

513
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:45.480
did that, No way, right.

514
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:48.400
So I mean just in behind the scenes facts, I

515
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.599
know in a nutshell. I won't go into depth because

516
00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:53.680
there's a lot of detail to this, but it was

517
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.599
originally intended to be a spinoff series for Georgia for

518
00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.200
Emperor Georgio. Sorry, but development complications sitting limbo for a

519
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:06.160
long while, the idea came back. The idea came up

520
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.720
back in twenty nineteen. COVID nineteen caused significant delays to it.

521
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:13.039
I will say the good news that come out of

522
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.200
that is that when given the choice between this and

523
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.440
another Discovery spinoff, they chose to move forward with strange

524
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:19.039
New worlds.

525
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:20.480
So I'm grateful for that.

526
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:21.720
I'm very grateful for that.

527
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.000
Yes, yeah, but there was a lot of expectation with this.

528
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.440
There's a lot of setup for this, and it just

529
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:27.960
didn't hit.

530
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.759
It's funny because I remember when we saw the trailer

531
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:34.359
for the first time, we all had that initial reaction

532
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.440
of like, this doesn't feel like Star Trek, and sure not.

533
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:42.319
It kept that vibe, it really did. What I found

534
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.200
very interesting about this is this is the first time

535
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.319
in the history of Star Trek we did not have

536
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.240
a star Fleet officer in uniform and no Federation starships.

537
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:59.319
Ye none, even on the first the opening what do

538
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:01.880
you call it, the open, not even the credits, but

539
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.839
kind of that interlude that they make where it has

540
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.039
the swooshing chip. They had that garbage scale kind of

541
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.680
flying through, so you didn't even get it.

542
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.880
There, No, not even there. And the music itself too.

543
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.400
I like the the the opening music that we got

544
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.839
when they're showing the paramount symbol. You like that that

545
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.240
grinding sound whatever that was. That like got me excited, like,

546
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.000
oh man, this is gonna be interesting. This is gonna

547
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:28.279
be you know, a static exciting. And then I really

548
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.680
don't remember a lot of the music. Un told the

549
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.000
Star Trek music came in.

550
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.559
I don't either, and it was composed by Jeff Russo,

551
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:38.599
who's been a key part of Discovery Picard Strange New World. Yeah,

552
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.839
he's ingrained in Star Trek. It's going to be very

553
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.119
hard to separate the two though.

554
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:45.480
Yeah, yeah, I thought he did it. He did a

555
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.599
decent job, but you're right, it's it's very unmemorable. It's

556
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.160
in the style that he used, especially in the early

557
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.400
years of Discovery. But what I really felt his main

558
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.960
theme that he used over and over again in this

559
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.319
wast it a little bit too close to Jerry Goldsmith's

560
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.759
Born theme. In fact, it's the one that he created

561
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.000
in first context, it's missing just one note away from

562
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.519
it just came to a little dud. Too close for

563
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:13.319
me because every time I heard that theme, I expected

564
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.960
one to step out from the shadows or something. And

565
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:20.279
you know, it's not a bad score. I I'd listen

566
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.240
to it separate from the visuals.

567
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.079
Yes, maybe there was a pair of board that walked

568
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:28.839
into the bar that we just didn't see.

569
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:29.960
They took a look.

570
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.799
Around, saw zeph and were like, we'll just we'll go

571
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:33.440
down the street.

572
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.799
We'll come back to you.

573
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.759
No, obviously this has some Easter eggs in it. They

574
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.599
used a lot of species that we've seen before. Wayne,

575
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:44.920
what kind of death did you see?

576
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.240
Well, you know, we didn't see much Star Trek in this,

577
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.519
but what was mentioned the writers really did do their

578
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.319
research on what we got. I do want to bring

579
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.359
out that the star date of this movie was shows

580
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.400
that it took place in the year twenty three twenty four.

581
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.200
That places it forty years before Encounter Farpoint, and it

582
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:09.119
also places it the same year that Beverly Crusher was born. Now,

583
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.720
the character of Sam was mentioned a couple of times

584
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.599
on Star Trek Discovery. His name was actually mentioned in

585
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.680
the episode of Tara Firmer Part two. This first time

586
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.960
we actually saw the character. Though. Then there's that map

587
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.279
of the galaxy contains a lot of familiar locations mentioned

588
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:28.799
on it. Romulus, trill Warf three five to nine, Soul

589
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.119
which is where Earth is betaz ed, the Badlins, tal Setti,

590
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.559
Free Haven, many many more. That's just the ones I

591
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.640
caught in a brief glance. Now. One of the title

592
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.720
cards that appears on screen mentions the Treaty of Katan.

593
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.759
This was first mentioned in the Star Trek Enterprise episode

594
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:50.559
Fallen Hero was negotiated by an ambassador of Velar. That

595
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.599
episode was very vague about what that treaty did, so

596
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.240
the section thirty one writers had a blank slate to

597
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.119
create anything with that one. The character of Virgil is

598
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.000
a charm, which I believe is the first time that

599
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.559
we've seen in another member of that race since the

600
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.240
original series episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield way

601
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.079
back in the nineteen sixties. And of course, as mentioned before,

602
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:16.079
Quasi was a camelloid. We haven't seen one of them

603
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:20.119
since Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country, and mel is

604
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.599
a Dalton we haven't seen one of those since the

605
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.880
Motion picture although they've been mentioned quite a few times

606
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:30.000
in another series. Now Dotta no mentions that he was going

607
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.480
to sell the Godsend to the Minotions. This is that

608
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.559
race that was mentioned in Star Trek the Next Generations

609
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.359
episode the Arsenal of Freedom, but the events of this

610
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.119
film must take place before that rice that race was

611
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.599
wiped out by the Echo Papa six oh seven weapon,

612
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.960
and then finally Control at the end sends a team

613
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.000
on a mission to Turkana four. This is planet where

614
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.000
the an Earth Colony had a civil war and it

615
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.680
caused the law to break down and violence to take over.

616
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.720
And it's also the birthplace of Tasha Yar.

617
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:08.359
Interesting well, knowing that this was a movie that is

618
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:10.960
I mean, the title is section thirty one. I think

619
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.039
there were certain expectations wh would have that kind of

620
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:17.160
familiar look and feel kind of wondering if one of

621
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.079
you is going to recommend to someone to look for

622
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.240
a different view of section thirty one in Trek, or

623
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.480
if this is their first exposure and the possibility of

624
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:25.839
them kind of rolling their eyes when they hear the

625
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.319
phrase again, where would you recommend them to get another

626
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:30.440
view of section thirty one?

627
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.680
I think Wall grew a Deep Space nine Yeah for sure.

628
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.000
Yeah, yeah, I was going to bring up two episodes

629
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.480
in particular. Season six there's an episode called Inquisition, and

630
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.839
season seven there's Extreme Measures. At least one of those

631
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.960
includes doctor Julian Basheer. There's some kind of interactive action

632
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:53.279
with him and Luther Sloan, who's played by one of

633
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.680
my favorites, William Sadler from Tales from Crypt Demon Night. Yes,

634
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.960
it did an amazing job of that kind of covert

635
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:06.160
ups kind of organization that we saw later in Star

636
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.319
Trek Discovery and a few other places. But I think

637
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.599
it's a great concept. It's just it didn't come through here, correct.

638
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.640
I agree, And it's well used on Deep Space nine.

639
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:22.839
The idea of the secret organization acting from the shadows

640
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.119
is very well done in those episodes. If you want

641
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.480
to see more of Section thirty one, you want to

642
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.680
see how it was done before House done right, they'll

643
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.799
watch those episodes. Are really really good episodes.

644
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.079
Yes, well they didn't come I don't know specific episodes,

645
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.240
but there's elements of them that comes up in Enterprise.

646
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:46.279
Yeah, the episode is Affliction. It was during the fourth season.

647
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.839
It was actually part of a three parter that featured

648
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:55.400
the augments. Prince Speiner guest appeared in that that also

649
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.200
the whole three part is a really good story. I

650
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.079
would also recommend that to go watch, and it would

651
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.279
give you a lot a little behind the scenes and

652
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.400
and and backstory. Too many things that do happen in

653
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:07.160
the Trek universe.

654
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.599
Uh did they have anything to do with Picard season three?

655
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.240
Without spoiling anything, not.

656
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:16.960
That I'm aware of. I don't remember them being mentioned.

657
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.839
And the place where a lot of different.

658
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.759
We we can't give that away too much.

659
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.599
They do have that, Yes, you're right, I do remember.

660
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.440
Yeah, yeah, so yes, we get fine line right here.

661
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.319
We can't talk about that.

662
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.640
Move on, move on, all right, I just just go

663
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.599
watch that whole season.

664
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.559
Yes, you would love that.

665
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.839
Any parting thoughts on this one, There are some good

666
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.519
things about it, you know. I kind of mentioned, you know,

667
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.240
the CGI, some of the camera work, some of the actors,

668
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.000
and I don't blame any of the actors. They all

669
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.440
did what they were given. And some of the actors

670
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:54.960
were to get as nice as see gear even though

671
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.119
they didn't utilize.

672
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.480
Her the way I was hoping they would. I'll leave

673
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.799
it at that. That's pretty much all I've got Wayne.

674
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:02.240
What about you?

675
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.960
Yeah, I mean, if you just want, if you have

676
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:10.799
time and you want to watch a decent, okay action film,

677
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.599
then go ahead and watch this. Don't expect much Star Trek,

678
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.240
you know, don't don't expect this, you know, to to

679
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.799
hit that that Star Trek vibe. But I mean it

680
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:20.519
entertained me.

681
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.279
Yeah, And I guess I would just add a parting

682
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.920
thought that if you're a Trek fan and you're thinking

683
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.599
about introducing somebody to the trick with this one, do

684
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.680
so with caution. I know it's different tastes apply to

685
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.279
different people, totally fair, and I don't want to bash

686
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.480
something if this is, you know, something that somebody loves.

687
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.400
From my perspective, somebody who grew up with the next

688
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.400
generation DS nine, all these are the kind of experiences

689
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.559
it didn't quite hit. So I wouldn't want to start

690
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.240
somebody on this if I was trying to hook them

691
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.920
on track well. As always, thank you gentlemen for being

692
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.839
on this and talking through the movie.

693
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.400
Always a pleasure, always pleasure, right.

694
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.599
And thank you for our listeners for joining us. We

695
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.920
will be back very soon.

696
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.280
We're coming back on February twelfth to talk about the

697
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.000
flip side of the film universe.

698
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:11.960
We'll get into one.

699
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.039
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700
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