Sept. 16, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E10 New Life and New Civilizations

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E10 New Life and New Civilizations
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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more. On this week's episode, our crew continues their conversation about the third season of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. The divisive season finale is here! Join us for a recap of episode 10, New Life and New Civilizations!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Welcome back to a new episode of Phasers Set to Stun,

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where we could continue to show our love for everything

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Star Trek in this ongoing series from a film by

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podcast which focuses on every system of the expanding Star

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Trek universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise, and

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much much more. Plotting your course on this voyage of

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the USS Enterprise is your Core Trek crew. I'm Wayne Whited,

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I'm David Burns.

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And I'm Skylefman.

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And today we must talk about Season three, episode ten,

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the season finale of Star Trek Strange New Worlds titled

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New Life and New Civilizations written by Dana Horgan and

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Davey Perez and directed by Maja Bervillo. So at this

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point forward, it's red alert, folks. There are spoilers ahead.

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If you haven't seen this episode yet, you really need

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to stop and being yourself to the nearest view screen

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and catch it on Paramount Plus, then come back and

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rejoin us for this discussion. So, Scott, why don't you

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give us the short summary for the episode.

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I'll give it a shot. There's a lot of winding

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through this one. A celebration of Captain Bettel's promotion is

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cut short when the Enterprise hears from Doctor Corby, who

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is visiting Skygowe, a distant civilization that worships the evil

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Vesda as gods. They also learned that the Vesda, formerly

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trapped in the transporter buffer, has somehow appeared right in

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front of Doctor Korby. Enterprise makes its way to Corby

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on Skygowen to investigate, and Vesda, in the form of

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events in Gamble, hatches a plot to set the other

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Vesta free to possess everyone on Skygwen as a vessels

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and spread chaos throughout the universe. Meanwhile, Betel comes to

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the realization that her destiny is to become the warden

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that keeps the Vesda imprisoned. Betel battles Gamble in the

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Vesda prison, gets a glimpse of a life what might

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have been with Pike and the family they would build,

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and just before Betel surrenders to her fate, losing her hmanity,

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humanity forever. She has a brief moment to say goodbye

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to Captain Pike. It's a strange end to the season,

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but one that's worth discussing for sure.

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All Right, so this episode has kind of split the

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fandom down right in the center. Like a lot of

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the episodes, but this one seemed to me more than most.

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Let's find out how we liked it. What do you

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guys think?

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I like the music web as from season two better

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if that tells you anything.

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Oh.

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Ouch, this this felt like a series finale, not a

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season finale.

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It was I did not like it at all.

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This episode had elements of it trying to be the

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Interlight from the next generation. It felt like we were

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going into the nexus of Star Trek generations at times,

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and I'm sorry, I'm not a fan of this finale.

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I thought it was flat. I felt we were let down.

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I mean this this season. I mean, we'll get talk

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about season a little bit later, but it just felt

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like we had a lot of really good episodes in

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the season and I knew going. I felt something about

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three quarters away through the season that like, I'm like,

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we're really not building up to anything very much, and

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I knew they were going to give us a resolution

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to Betel, but even Betel's resolution, I felt like, really,

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that's what we're going to do with her.

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Okay, sure, fine, let's move on.

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I'm glad the finale's done and I can't wait to

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see season four.

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But man, not a fan of this episode.

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Yeah, I mean, I gotta admit I'm feeling the same way,

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disappointed because we've been talking about not that they had

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to pursue anto the theories that we came up with,

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but there's a lot of directions we thought this could go,

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and this is certainly not one that I expected. It felt.

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It felt like at about twenty minutes in, when there's

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talk about like destiny and all this other kind of stuff,

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it was really really feeling odd. There are aspects of

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certain other series in the start our franchise that go

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in this direction, and it always feels a little weird

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because when they get into like higher level mysticism and

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things like this, it just seems off. The tone just

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seems off, especially considering where they seem to be going

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the entire season. It seemed like the are way too

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willing to accept this whole idea that Bettella's destined to

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become the Beholder, and you know, thoughts of like, well,

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I'm going to be a vessel for good that's fighting

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against you know, the definition of evil. When they get

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that kind of big and that kind of broad, it

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just feels like biting off more than they can chew.

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I liked the Chef Pike kind of semi future that

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we got, but it didn't have the same kind of

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surprise element that things like Interlight had. It didn't really

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make you think. The whole time you knew that it

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was like, all right, this is a dream sequence. The

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knock at the door is obviously him being beckoned into

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the present day, real world whatever, So you knew that

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it wasn't real. You knew that it was going away.

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There were aspects of it that were well written, but

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then ultimately kind of the resolution just felt weird.

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Yeah, I'm conflicted with this episode two, more more so

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than what I was earlier this season with another episode.

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I just well, first let me say that this this

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just isn't the season finale I thought we were going

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to get. I don't know what exactly I was expecting,

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but it wasn't this. I know that this was not

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on my radar. It's just it's just not how I

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thought but Tell's story would play out. I think that's

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the biggest problem I have with it. You know, I

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just didn't think that that was the direction it was going,

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or for that matter, with Instant Gamble and the VESDA,

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I didn't think that's the way that story was. And

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I'm not extremely happy with what we got. You know,

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I don't think it. I mean, it's not a bad

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episode in my opinion, but it's not like it's definitely

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not the best. It's definitely not even in the top

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five or six of the season.

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I applaud the producers for trying for giving us a

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season finale that delivers something different, because you know, the

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the last two season finales used legacy characters or alien

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races or something, so you know, I just I don't know.

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I I you know, the writers had come out and

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said that they had written this as a series finale,

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and which that explains why you didn't have a cliffhanger.

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But I'm really glad that that didn't happen, because, you know,

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as a season finale, I'll accept it, but if this

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was a series finale, I would have been completely baffled

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and probably a little bit angry from the whole thing.

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I just I don't know. I guess when we first

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saw the Vesta back in through the Lens of Time,

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I had high hopes that, you know, the series was

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creating a new Battie, a really interesting Batty for strange worlds,

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and I think I even mentioned that, you know, it

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felt like an ongoing story that would carry on maybe

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for the XT couple of seasons. But this feels like

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an end of that story, and we still know very

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little about that race and what they can do. It

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just it seems like just a horrible missed opportunity for

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a great what could have been a great storyline that

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would have been original interesting. You know, I hope we

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see them again, but you know, I hope they didn't

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just just throw them away on this episode, but you know,

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I fear they may have. And and speaking of throwing away,

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what was the point of even having in sant Gamble there?

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It just felt wrong. I mean, you know, he he

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came comes in and then he's defeated almost immediately. It

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just seemed hardly worth even bringing him back.

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I don't.

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I'm with you guys and this I think over the

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last two episodes that we've reviewed, I think this is

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the only episode that we both or all three of

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us kind of agree with. It just didn't work.

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It just felt like a lot of wasted potential, Like

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in the audition, like why did Gamble come back? Why

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was am Benga in the portal? Because it seemed like

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we had, you know, an interesting setup with his backstory,

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an interesting kind of connection there. He had, you know,

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a brave moment certainly when he was ready to just

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end his own life to stop gambling his tracks. But

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then it just seems like he's kind of cast to

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the side when the Vesda is able to you know,

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attack the Beholder. It seems to have to you know,

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spend a lot of time and a lot of build

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up doing it, when it seems like it would want

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to just you know, be a little bit more persistent

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at chipping away at it. And it seems like they've

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built up such an interesting character with Betel to basically

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have her stand as like this statue for the rest

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of time. It seems like a wasted potential. I would

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have liked to have seen betel Be, you know, a

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character that's related but knowing that she's got the promotion,

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has some tension about her being distant and Pipe being

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distant and having to face that future together. It's interesting,

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we got to see it, but it's kind of waste

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of potential for that kind of tension to go away.

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If it was written as a series finale. It just

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seems like maybe they should have taken the time to say, like, nope,

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we're locked in it for two more seasons. Let's go

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ahead and dig in and make this something different.

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Yeah, and David, you were right too about.

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Definitely was not a I like what they were doing

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with Pike, and I understand what they were doing, but

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it was so much like The Interlight and I'm sorry,

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the Interlight is ten times better. Oh yeah, you know,

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I also got you know, I also thought about Startup

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Generations too, which even that was that little bit there

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was done better. Just like I said, I understand what

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they're doing, but I just with everything that happened around it,

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I just can't say that one thing redeemed the episode.

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I think when when we first realized what was going on,

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that they were back at his house and stuff, like that.

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I was like, oh, look we're in the nexus. That

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was a ma immediately thought, yeah, we're in the Nexus.

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I'm like, okay, cool. Of course it wasn't.

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When it drug on you realized what was going on.

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But I mean, I agree Scott that this villain was horrible.

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I'm sorry, and this is no put down to Gamble

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in the actor. I felt like this villain I will

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equal to the tar villain that killed Tasha y Are

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because it is a horrible.

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Villain in this film.

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And me this episode and another thing, I think, when

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I look back now at this season, I should have

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seen the warning signs this was coming because all the

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bottle episodes we.

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Had in this season, we really didn't have a overawe.

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Arcing season going on here story in this season, with

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the exception of Patel, we didn't. We had a lot

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of bottle episodes, and with that happening that this is

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what we get for the finale and we should have

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it coming.

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To be honest with you, did.

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Either one of us did any of us actually think

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this is the direction oftell was going?

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No, No, not at all, not at all.

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Now, now, maybe maybe, just maybe, if they'd given us

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a two parter for this and and gave a.

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Little bit more room.

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Maybe it might have worked, Yeah, but I still don't

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think it would have with where they went with Batel

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and the villain they gave us. You know, I'm I

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always try to find good stuff in episodes, and there

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are some good things in this episode.

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I absolutely love the spot and Kirk stuff.

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When he finally tells him call me Jim, I love

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that and I felt it deep down in my in

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my bones.

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Yeah, I'm using that pun, but I felt it.

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You know that that relationship is going further. But as

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an episode, man so let down.

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good bits about it. I do like even though it's

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a copy of the Intererlte, I do like what they

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did and their idea of doing it, and I thought

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they'd be acting. The actors were fantastic, especially especially Anson Mount.

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He did a phenomenal job in this episode because you know,

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his character was going through a lot. But it's just

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they're just not up there to redeem the whole thing.

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And I you know, David, you mentioning that making maybe,

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I mean, if they made this a two parter to

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be continued, I don't know. Maybe they could have come

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up with something else that could have made more sense.

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I don't, I don't know. I don't.

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Like I said, I'm conflicted with this epide.

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It definitely pales in comparison to the finale we got

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last year year, with the last season, I should say

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without question, yeah, And it's just, man, it's just I

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don't know what they were thinking in this, that this

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was the way to go.

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I don't, I don't know. I'm so confused, I really am.

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Almost Both finales we've got up to this point give

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us a lot to talk about, think about, and anticipate,

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and this one, I'm just anticipating the canuation of the

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series and knowing that, you know, I've got faith in

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the creative team behind it that they're going to take

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it into a better direction. But it's it's it's tough

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when you've got, you know, you're trying to advocate for

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a show that you know there's doing really really well

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to have something that kind of throws us off. I

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feel like what I was hoping for, you know, and

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I don't need to see Bettel turn into a Gorn,

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but it did seem like there might have been a

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little bit more depth there, especially because everything we've been seeing,

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everything that's been teased, points to the Gorn, nothing necessarily

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points to this whole Beholder thing, So it seems like

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it could have gone that way. It seems like the

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Vezda could have been drawn out into kind of like

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the you know, the puppet masters behind the scenes that

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have been orchestrating a bunch of little things that are

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going wrong. I don't know, it just surprised me. And

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it's like, as soon as I I heard them talk

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about destiny and I'm supposed to be Beholder and all

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this other kind of stuff, and she had like the

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stars in her eyes and things like that. There were

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just several little things that made me start to check

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out bit by bit, and then I was just kind

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of waiting for it to be over to see where

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I was going to. I was actually hoping that at

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the very end there would be some kind of twist

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that would keep us talking and thinking about the season

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until we get more.

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But I will say, this is the first episode when

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you said you checked out, This is the first episode

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that I checked out about halfway through it, like I

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had it on. But it got to the point that

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it became background noise.

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I was the same way, exactly the same way. I'm

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glad both of you brought that up. I just about

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halfway through, I'm like, you know, I'm losing interest. And

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I kept on watching it, and of course I watched

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it again for this podcast for the notes, but it

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just didn't hold me like the rest of the episodes

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this season. The whole thing reminds me so much of

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the third Sees A Discovery, where I loved every episode.

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I thought it was an incredible idea. The build up

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was fantastic, but the last episode of the season was

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such a huge, huge letdown, so much that I almost

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stopped watching the entire series. I'm not gonna stop watching

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this one, so I am looking forward to next season.

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I love these.

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Characters too, but uh, it's it's difficult to to after

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following for ten weeks, well nine weeks, uh, this season,

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to have to to end here and wait another eleven

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twelve months for the next episode.

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At least it's only eleven or twelve months. It's not

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like the last year. Yeah, yeah, you know, And I

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know they'll rebound. I know they will, Oh yeah, you know.

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It's but you know, and I don't blame this on

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the actors the cast, because they're all phenomenal.

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Whatever you give them, they're going to give.

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They're going to give one hundred and they always do.

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And and there's again, there's so many moments in here

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that I laughed. I laughed at Gotti when he when

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he spoke as Pellia and capitals, Like, would Pellias ever

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say that as a vampire?

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It's not like he was a vampire.

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Uh, you know, I mean there were some funny things

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in this episode, and then the whole ending too, like

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I kind of like hit it?

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Is this a hit it moment?

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You know?

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And Erica was like, you know, I like hit it

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and when he basically told her, you know, go, you know,

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go go out, go as fast as you want.

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But overall, yeah, no, that that ending. The final scenes

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of the episode, though, did did interest me a little

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bit in the fact that now they've got what new

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charts with lots and lots of new planets to explore.

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You know, I'm hoping that it seemed that first of all,

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that that scene seemed like a little tack on scene.

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I think they added that when they realized that series

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was gonna go on for another two years, but you know,

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it gives me a lot of hope for next season

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that we're going to see a lot of original stuff.

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I love the continuity ideas, I love of seeing things

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from Star Trek, but I also like the new ideas

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of it, and I'm hoping this brings a whole bunch more.

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Yeah, let's put this behind us and move on.

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Yeah, speaking of speaking of tact on, not to lead

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the Witness, but I do want to kind of ask

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a resident doctor who Megafan, your opinion about Pelly is Lyne.

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Yeah.

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I thought it was funny.

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Yeah, and I'll.

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Mention that in Easter Eggs too, got a little more detail.

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But yeah, yeah, you know, I think I think it's funny.

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I did, I do?

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I mean, I like, I love the ideas as a

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doctor grew fan, I love those little callbacks to other series.

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Yeah. Yeah, I'll leave it at that.

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All right. So, now that we've given our thoughts and

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opinions on the episode, Uh, let's take a look at

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the characters themselves. Which character do you think shying the

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most this week?

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David?

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I mean, as much as I want to give, I

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hated where they took her character, I'm still going with

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Betel on this one. You know, she still put her

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all into this and having to go through that she

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didn't have a choice of what her destiny and I'm

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using air quotes here of what it's going to become,

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and she needed to say goodbye to Pike.

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I liked the whole dialogue between the two.

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Of them, you know, having kids and all that kind

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of stuff, and the makeup that they did on two

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of them when they were both very elderly.

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I thought that was extremely well done.

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Yeah, it was.

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So I've got to go.

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With Patel on this one. So even though I don't

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like what they did with her character, I still think

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she shined Scott.

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Yeah, I absolutely agree, and I mean, you know, knowing

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that it's the last time we're possibly going to see her,

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maybe in a cameo later. I got to give credit

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to Melanie Scrafano, the actress that plays Captain Betel, I

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think has consistently done a great job. I think this

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is no different despite you know, not necessarily agreeing with

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the direction of the story of the dialogue. I think

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she did a great job, especially in the Chef Pike sequences.

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It seemed like they were genuinely a married couple. I

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like the fact that they gave Patel the or Patel

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the the chance to be able to give Chris that

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life that they never thought that they would get. And

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I thought it was a beautiful moment when he you know,

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walks up to his apron later and kind of holds

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it up and then kind of lays it down with

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the blank space. You see the absence there and it

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pulls your hearts drings. So that's a Captain battel.

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Well, I'm going to give this to Captain Pike because

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throughout this season I've always felt that Pike has been

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kind of under us. You know, there have been a

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couple of episodes whereas he's hardly even appeared in. But

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you know, here in this episode, he really does shine

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out in my opinion, you know, despite the script that

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they're working with Danson, Mount does give an incredible performance

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and could be, in my opinion too, one of his

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best performances of the season. You know it the episode

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put did put Pike in some really emotional situations. You know,

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he faced a lot of hard questions, especially you know,

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the type of life that he would lead or or

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never lead.

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I guess due to.

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His future accident, but you know, his time, that scene,

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the vision scene would would tell is definitely some of

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the episode's strongest scenes. And he just does an incredible

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job performing this. So I have to give it his

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Pike and answer and mount for his performance. Now, if

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you have any choice to be any character that appeared

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in this episode, do we want to be any character

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that appeared in this episode? But all right, let's pick one.

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Which one would you like to be? In Why Scott

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you begin this one?

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I'd go with Chef Pike because despite the heartbreak of

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you know, not being able to live that life, he

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still got to experience it. He still got to share

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that time with Battel. I wasn't necessarily clear on whether

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they both were kind of living an entire lifetime in

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a condensed space of time. But if he did, he

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was living the life that he always wanted. It seemed

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like there was enough enough things where it didn't feel

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like for the man who has everything, where everything seemed

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a little too idyllic or a little too good.

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So I'm going to go with Corby two reasons. Reason

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Number one is he is basically space Indiana Jones, and

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number two, he gets to locked lips with Chapel.

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So just get right to it, and I'm gonna get

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right to it. That's right.

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Yeah, uh so, I mean he had to suffer a

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little bit, but uh yeah, definitely, Corby.

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I'm again, I'm going to choose Captain Pike because this

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episode was a really important point in his life and

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he's been given an incredible gift from Betel the memories

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of a happier, longer life, which is something that he

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didn't have before. You know, he knew that his he

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knew how his life was going to end, as you know,

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very soon with the accident, and that he'd end up

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in that hover chair blinking, you know, as a one

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life or no or two for yes, you know, for

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the rest of his life. And that's I mean, that's

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gonna be a really depressing weight on your head, knowing

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that you know, this is where it's going to go.

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You know, you know, I'm just kind of you know,

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counting the days down until that happens. But now now

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he's been able to give you know, he has another idea,

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another an alternate life. You know, that this life that

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he always wanted in his head. So now that you

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know everything that happens afterwards is just you know, extra

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now and that even when he's in the chair, you know,

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he can look back and remember this life that he

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had with Mattel, And I think that's wonderful. I think

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I think that's probably the good thing that came out

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of this episode is now Pike has a little bit

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different outlook of his ending.

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Yeah, it's good call.

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Yeah, yes, all right.

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Now we're gonna dive deep into the episode and see

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if we can pull out any Easter eggs. And there

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wasn't too many this week. But did you two, either

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one of you find anything.

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I just got the uh am calling Jim for the

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first time, trying to call it Jim.

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That's about all I caught. Scott.

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Yeah, I mean, the only thing was what I mentioned

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before about Pellya's mentioning a time traveling doctor. Although what

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I thought was kind of interesting is was she trying

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to kind of like stop herself from saying time traveling

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and then say traveling doctor instead.

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Oh, I got the impression that she started to saying

473
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:01.359
it and realize maybe she shouldn't tell.

474
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.240
Anybody about him.

475
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.319
That's the impression I got, which makes me beginning to

476
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.279
think that you know, maybe Star Trek and doctor who

477
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:10.440
is in the same universe now, and maybe that is

478
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.039
what they're leading to after this and then the appearance

479
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:16.839
of the tartists in the Salot who ate its tale.

480
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.200
You know, I'm really interested in seeing, you know, where

481
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.200
they want to go with this. And you know, BBC,

482
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.960
if you're listening, uh, putting Carol Kine in the next season,

483
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.480
a doctor who wouldn't be too bad. I wouldn't mind that,

484
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.000
So you know, can we see that a little bit interesting?

485
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:34.680
Yeah?

486
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.839
All right, Well I found just a couple and I

487
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:39.799
really had to pull for a few of these. But

488
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.359
herst prank of telling Scottie to come in his formal

489
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.640
dress is actually a callback from the second episode of

490
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:52.599
the season, titled Children of the Comment, which where our

491
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.240
tegas had tricked or her into dressing up for Captain

492
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.640
Pike's dinner party. That episode was also directed by the

493
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.960
same person that did this episode. There were a few mentions.

494
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.759
There was a mention of the planet Rigel from the

495
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.279
original series pilot The Cage, and there were a few

496
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.680
mentions of Pike's fate from the Menagerie. There was also

497
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.680
a brief call to the Daystrom Institute, which appeared in

498
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.480
everything from Star Trek The Next Generation to start Trek

499
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:23.039
the Card and I also know actually this is a

500
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:24.880
little bit of what I think. It's a little bit

501
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.799
of a blooper. This is this is something that I

502
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.079
don't think they caught. But in Pike's vision, the character

503
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.599
of Elijah April, the boy who was marrying their daughter,

504
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.839
He's wearing a Science Division version of the Starfleet Cadet uniform.

505
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.920
But by the time the scene should be taking place,

506
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:43.160
he actually should be wearing the cadet uniforms that we

507
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.640
see in Startrek two and three, you know, the red

508
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:52.680
maroon jumpsuits. Yeah, that whoops herbs. All right, let's conclude

509
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.319
with how to look back at the season as a whole.

510
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.839
Which episode was your favorite? Which ones do you think

511
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:01.440
just didn't hit right? Any closing thoughts of the season

512
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.119
you'd like to share, David Scott.

513
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.839
So, for me, my favorite episode has to be Shut

514
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.640
Up to KINFORI seeing zombies and Star Trek was new,

515
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.160
but getting to see and then Banga getting the history

516
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.880
wrapped up basically kind of you know, because we talked

517
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.000
about that, Wayne, you and I what we expected to

518
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.640
see this season. So I felt that was a good

519
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.880
move and it happened pretty quick into the season. Not

520
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:32.240
just that, but Babs gave an absolute stellar performance in

521
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.680
that episode, and I really love his character and I

522
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:37.680
love where the way they keep going with it, and

523
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.480
every time he's on screen, I'm excited to see it

524
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.960
and to see what he's going to do because he's

525
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.759
an incredible They're all incredible actors, but for some reason,

526
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.319
Babs just does such a wonderful job in that role

527
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.920
and I just love to see it. But and then

528
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.599
the fact that they're you know, it's a nod too

529
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.400
the actor KENFORI as well is a big thing for me.

530
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.720
I know, we've got Scarefest coming up up in Lexington

531
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.079
and can Foroury's going to be there.

532
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.960
I'm going to go out and talk to him and

533
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:04.599
ask him.

534
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.119
How he feels that he had a Star Trek episode

535
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:12.119
in his honor, yes, a planet named after him, to

536
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:14.319
see how he reacts to that.

537
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.039
But that's my favorite episode.

538
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.119
As for the season itself, I kind of talked a

539
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.200
little bit earlier in this episode that I felt like

540
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.759
they had too many bottle episodes in this season. And

541
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.440
it's hard to say because I love Bottle episodes. I

542
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:29.640
love what they can do with them, and we had

543
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.920
a lot of good episodes here, you know, I remember

544
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.039
saying week after week, Man, I don't know, this feels

545
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.359
like this is my favorite episode.

546
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.799
This feels like this is my favorite episode, and.

547
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.279
They had a lot of good stuff throughout it. I

548
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.920
just felt like, and it did kind of go back

549
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.880
to the original Star Trek where you get each episode is.

550
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.640
You know, inside itself.

551
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.480
It doesn't have that story arc that goes over the

552
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.480
entire season, and even the next generation did that, you know.

553
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.240
I think d Spaceline was the first one that finally

554
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.680
did the story arc you know, throughout the season.

555
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:01.599
So I felt like, this.

556
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.200
Is kind of a callback to that older stuff. But

557
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.880
when you have so much going on, and you know

558
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.160
that the Patel stuff you have, that's kind of a

559
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.119
story arc you got going on. But I think they

560
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.319
kind of like let it out, then it disappeared, then

561
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:16.319
they talk.

562
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.240
A little bit about it, and then they let it disappear.

563
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.480
It wasn't like what we got with the Gorn and

564
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.200
stuff like that in previous season. So I felt like

565
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.039
with all the Bottle episodes, and again, it should have

566
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.720
been our warning sign that the finale was going to

567
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.680
be like this. I felt let down by that, But

568
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.400
as a season, I thought we had some pretty good,

569
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.680
strong episodes this season, so I have to say it

570
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.160
was a successful season with the exception of the finale.

571
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.039
Scott, Yeah, I agree with that last statement. There were

572
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:44.720
so many times when we said, I don't know what

573
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:49.079
this might be my favorite episode, which is a mark

574
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.960
of a good season. It is interesting kind of looking

575
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.799
back at how many bottle episodes there were, but it

576
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.960
also feels like any one of these, with the accept

577
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:05.279
the season premiere, any one of these could be something

578
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.880
you used to kind of introduce somebody to the season

579
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:09.880
or show it to somebody to say, like, this is

580
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.799
the potential at starter I still has for me. I'll

581
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.839
be interested to hear thoughts on this, But to me,

582
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:21.440
my favorite was the one that I didn't get a

583
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.319
chance to talk with you two about, which is four

584
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:23.480
and a.

585
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.000
Half fulcons one.

586
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.839
It was a lot of fun, even the I didn't

587
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.440
understand the title until I saw the episode, and then

588
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.319
I was like, it's so obvious and it's such a

589
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.599
jabb at spot. You could hear him like, fine, four

590
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.480
and a half fulcons whatever. That one to me just

591
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.519
kind of there were some dramatic elements. Obviously you knew

592
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.920
it was kind of a funnier episode, so it wasn't

593
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.480
going to have major consequences, but it still had interesting

594
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.640
insights into each of the characters, still had some great impact,

595
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:02.799
and Patton Oswalt's character was just hilarious. So Wayne, what

596
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:03.240
about you.

597
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.960
I really enjoyed the season. While I don't think it

598
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.799
was quite as strong as the last season, there were

599
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.599
a lot of high points in it, like well, like

600
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:16.640
you said, shuttlety Foy and another one through the Lens

601
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.559
of Time is another one that was really good. A

602
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.839
lot of good character building this season. I feel like

603
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.640
the actors and the writers are now they're now comfortable

604
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.680
with their characters. Well not just their characters, but the

605
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.039
cast altogether feel much more comfortable, so they can now

606
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.319
expand rather than you know, not just explore, but expand

607
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.960
their characters. But I think my favorite episode ended up

608
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:43.039
being Tyrannium last episode because I just felt it we

609
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.680
finally got that great Ortegas episode that we'd always been wanting.

610
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.680
Plus it's just it was a really strong episode, well

611
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:55.119
acted directed, the effects were fantastic. I just I loved it.

612
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.559
It was an episode that fit perfectly into the Star

613
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.720
Trek lore but didn't know rely heavily on continuity, and

614
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.519
I think just stood out for me from above all

615
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:06.039
the other.

616
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.279
That's a good choice. I wrestled with Chisen Terraria myself,

617
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:11.960
But then I was.

618
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.759
Like, I was the same way I wrestled with four

619
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.200
and a half Falcons.

620
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.880
Which is that's a that's a sign of a good season, right,

621
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:19.799
It's hard to make.

622
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:20.680
A choice, it is.

623
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.359
Yeah, absolutely, I'm a sucker for horror, so that's why

624
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.240
I went with the zombies.

625
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.640
Oh yeah, yeah, you don't get.

626
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.279
To see that in Star Trek too much. I thought

627
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.599
that was a unique way for them to go. But yeah,

628
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.519
I mean I struggled. The four and half Falcons was

629
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.039
absolutely sterical, and Scott we even mentioned and that we

630
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:37.480
wish you.

631
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.640
Were there to talk to us about because it was

632
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.440
so much fun. It really was a lot of fun.

633
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.720
Doug was amazing in that episode. Doug.

634
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.599
Yes, I think it's interesting, like the range of choices

635
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:52.440
that we have here. It shows the range of Star

636
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.599
Trek and the potential for it to move forward. There's

637
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.519
definitely some some genre pushing. It's not necessarily what you

638
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.039
might expect from conventional sci fi or what you might

639
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.359
expect from Star Trek. And I think they're handling that

640
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:06.960
really well. They're going in the good directions.

641
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.359
They don't. I love that.

642
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.279
I love that that they're pushing the boundaries of Star Trek.

643
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.920
You know, we're not just getting another you know, cookie

644
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.240
cutter Star Trek series, you know, like like we had gotten,

645
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.559
you know, we don't we need that. This is just

646
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:24.319
pushing everything. This is trying things new, and I really

647
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.160
commend them for doing that, and it makes it makes

648
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:31.039
Strange New Worlds a more dramatic and a more fun

649
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.720
and more enjoyable series to watch. So I hope they continue,

650
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:36.279
and I know they are because next season we got

651
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.519
the puppet episode and I'm really really curious to see

652
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:40.400
what they're going to do with that.

653
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:41.599
Absolutely.

654
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.440
So, do you guys think we'll see an Oe character

655
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.680
next season introduced? I do?

656
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:47.680
I would think so.

657
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:48.119
Yeah.

658
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:49.880
I don't feel like they're gonna think it's.

659
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.599
Going Do you think it's gonna be Suoneer? Do you

660
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.839
think it's gonna be Bones McCoy.

661
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.279
I think it'll be Bones. I think it's time to

662
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.720
introduce them because we got we got membenga storyline, which

663
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.279
they really haven't. We have no idea what what the

664
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.000
heck happens to him, you know, and they're going to

665
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.239
explore They have to explore it, especially if they're leading

666
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.440
towards this Star Trek year one series that they're talking

667
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.920
about every ice talking about. So I do think Bones

668
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:17.920
is going to be next season's character, and I think

669
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.199
they're going to start the beginning of that story.

670
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:24.199
You know, now that they lost Gamble, they need help

671
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.880
mm hmm. So maybe that is how they get McCoy.

672
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.199
So here's another interesting twist to think about. Jim is

673
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.519
still on the Farragut. Yeah, and we don't know who

674
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.599
the medical chief of staff. There is no is it

675
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.199
possible that Bones could be on the Farragut with Jim?

676
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.400
But did he come from the though that we don't know?

677
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.440
That's true, We don't know he could have. I mean

678
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.280
that that's yeah, who knows. I never even thought of that.

679
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:57.840
That's that's a good call to Wow, he knows Bones.

680
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.719
Right, And what I would like them to do, and

681
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.440
I trust that they'll do so, is that they'll leave

682
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:09.199
room for continuing to have Chapel and a Benga. I

683
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.440
would love to see them see it all the way through. Oh,

684
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.679
even though I know that Jones is destined to be there,

685
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.519
I don't want them to say like, well, there's too

686
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.280
many people in medical, which I would argue, no, there's

687
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:26.320
never enough people in medical. But you know, interesting with

688
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:31.039
how Bones has that kind of I would say, kind

689
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:36.119
of a contentious personality and the conflict that might happen

690
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.599
with Spock that I just I wouldn't want him set

691
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.519
up in such a way that it's just like God,

692
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:43.320
that Bones guy.

693
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:44.360
Right.

694
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.679
Well, I don't see them bringing any of the new

695
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.960
other characters on as regular. It's not like what they

696
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.880
do with Scotty, because if they've already got a full

697
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.119
house right now, and in order for them, in my opinion,

698
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.079
in order for them to bring any of the other

699
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.239
character you know, mccoyr or Sulu in full time, they'd

700
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.559
have to get rid of one of the other one.

701
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:03.760
I don't know. Maybe that's the way they're leading for,

702
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.960
but I really do think if it is Bones, and

703
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.480
I think it is going to be for next season,

704
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.079
because I think they'll say Suli for if not season five,

705
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.159
for this new series that they're talking about. But I

706
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.880
don't think he'll be a regular. I think he'll be

707
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.760
like Kirk, and that may pop up once or twice, and.

708
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.480
That's it makes sense.

709
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.079
I feel like we'll see or Tagus continue to gradually

710
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.320
grow and kind of ascend to a point where she

711
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.440
all those kind of you know, outgrows enterprise or season

712
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.079
possibility to go on to other things, maybe even get

713
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.559
into a command position on another ship like that direction

714
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.960
that we saw Sulugo right now, and leave an open

715
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.079
chair for him, but not an empty chair, right.

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And that's it for this season of Star Trek Strange

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New Worlds, as well as this week's episode of Phaser

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Set is done. We'd like to open a channel to

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our listeners and here just what you thought about the

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most recent episode and this season in general. You can

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email us at a film by Podcast at gmail dot com,

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find us online at a film by podcast dot com,

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follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and x and if you're

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looking for more content or swag, you can join a

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Patreon and find out what exclusive gyms are hidden within.

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A big thank you once again to my fellow trekkers

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David and Scott for joining me and the listeners over

728
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the last nine weeks reviewing this season.

729
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Yep, thanks, can't wait, can't wait to dig into the

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next season.

731
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Yeah, what's so, guys? Before we let the listeners go,

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what are.

733
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We doing next?

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We're sad to see Strange New Worlds end for the year,

735
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but we have two more seasons yet to come, starting

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with season four sometime in twenty twenty six, and of

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course there will be more Phaser set to stun coming

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your way to fill the gap. In a few weeks,

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we begin our look back at another Trek series, where

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we will bring you our top ten episodes of Star

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Trek Deep Space nine, season by season. A new starter

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treks with a look at each season of the nineteen

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ninety three to ninety nine series, giving you the low

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down on which episodes you should watch and which ones

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you can avoid, plus our usual thoughts and opinions, along

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with some fun trivia and behind the scenes info. Well

747
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you guys, think about that.

748
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I'm very excited to start digging into the Space nine.

749
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I really that wait that way. Yeah, we're both fans

750
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of that series, and I can't wait to do a

751
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rewatch and delve back into this because it was a

752
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great series when it aired absolutely well. We look forward

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to returning to the twenty fourth century and to you

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our listeners on the next episode of Phasers, set to stun.

755
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Man. I forgot how many seasons and episodes there are

756
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in Deep Space nine.

757
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There's a seven seasons, a lot of episodes. That's things.

758
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Yes it is, Yes it is.

759
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I know. I was looking at the first season trying

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to decide which episodes.

761
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You know, we know episode one is gonna be one.

762
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Come on, yeah, and on the season finale that's in.

763
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The finale for it. There's two. We just got to

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come up with the eight more.

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I can tell you which one's gonna be my fleet's favorite.

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But