Sept. 2, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E8 Four-and-a-Half Vulcans

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E8 Four-and-a-Half Vulcans

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I'm David Purns and I'm Wayne Whited.

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Scott has decided to take on the role of Pellia

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and is not with us for this episode as he

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is on another away mission we think, or he's hiding

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somewhere in engineering we don't. Regardless, he will be back

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for the next episode. Red Alert listeners, if you are

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not caught up with a series, please go do so

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as there mini spoilers ahead. We don't want to spoil

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this one because this was a lot of fun that

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we're going to dig into here shortly, but we will

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be right here waiting on the bridge when you return.

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So this episode four and a half of Vulcans. We

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have had some serious episodes these last two weeks with

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some heavy endings, so finally we get a comedic episode

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to help us relax and laugh. Wayne tell our listeners

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what this episode is about.

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Sure, The Enterprise is asked by the Vulcans to help

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take care of a problem on the planet t Tzar,

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whose energy system is overloading, which would real and a

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nuclear meltdown. The planet has only ever had contact with Vulcans, Therefore,

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to respect the prime Director, Captain Pike, Nurse Chapel, Yurhura,

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and Laan undergo a process to change them into full

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blooded Vulcans while they undertake the mission, but upon their return,

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the four decide that remaining Vulcan would only be logical,

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creating unique problems for each member of the crew. Meanwhile,

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visiting officer Lieutenant James Kirk teams up with Scotty to

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help with the problem, and Una calls her Vulcan ex

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boyfriend Doug to help reunite the four new Vulcans with

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their catchers, hoping to convince them to change back to

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their original selves.

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Very good. I have to say this episode was exactly

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what we needed.

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Yeah.

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I laughed and I truly enjoyed myself. From beginning to

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end of this episode.

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There was a lot to enjoy.

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There was ancient mount is so far over the top

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in his performance, But holy crap, did I laugh hysterically.

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Wayne.

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His vulcan hair was ridiculous. I know he loves the shout.

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You know, everybody else was playing it pretty much like

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normal vulcans, you know, the way you would expect them

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to play it. But he I mean you, you hit

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it right there on over the top. But every time

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he started speaking, he reminded me of Dan Ackroyd's character

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of Beldar from Cone Heads. It was so much. It

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was just it was hilarious. Every time he spoke.

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I loved. I loved the opening ti A sequence that

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they allowed him to do that flat toned.

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Oh that was so funny. I was surprising it was.

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But as soon as he's started saying it, saying the

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lines in that flat tone dialogue he did the vulcan dude,

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I just started laughing. I said, this is gonna be

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a fun episode. Yeah, And sure enough, it was.

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It was.

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You know, what was said is I felt sorry for Spock.

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Did you Yeah? I did. I mean he was getting

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kind of ridiculed for being half vulcan, you know. But

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you know, I I'll mention later how much you know

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I felt for him, But yeah, he was. I I

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did feel bad for him.

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Yeah, I mean that they are the beginning when he

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had to go force to eat by himself and think, oh,

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of course, spot.

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I know he looked. He looked so lonely sitting there

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eating his sandwich.

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He sued sadly. One thing is for sure, though, for

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those of you who might have turned off early, make

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sure you stay through the credits, because at the end

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there is some comedy gold between Doug and s Boch.

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I'm not sure if that's actually part of the continuity

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or just something that because to me, it seemed like

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that was more the actors just happening. It's a little

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bit of fun than than actually scripted or something. But

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I loved it. I loved it. It was I I laughed

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all the way through.

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That I did too, And I think you're right. I

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don't think it was scripted. I think they were just

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having fun, because when when when Doug that goes away.

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When Patton Oswo walks away, I mean, Ethan Peck just

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looks up and just starts busting out.

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Laughing a big smile on his face.

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Yes, they're perfect, perfect, And you know, I know we've

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mentioned how much we love Ethan Peck a spock Man.

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He just gets better and better.

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Wayne, I agree, I agree. He was phenomenal in this episode.

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I loved the way he performed it. You know, you

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felt for him, you were dead, you know, he seems

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so even though he's with all the Balkans. There's so

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many Balkans in this episode. He seems so out of

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place because yeah.

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And it makes sense. I mean, I guess they wanted

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us to feel sorry for him, and we did, We

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really did. And we'll get to more of that a

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little bit later. I'm sure one thing though, that I

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think I figured out these writers are up to something.

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They are throwing a curveball at us. With the tail,

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we see hope for her character because she gets promoted

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at the end of this episode. Well you know later

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on she's gonna getromoted because she's gonna get that role.

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I think they're trying to throw us off the path.

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And there's still something bad coming for her.

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I agree. She seemed quite normal, yeah, in in this episode,

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which you know, I'm glad to see her. I was

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really glad to see her in this episode because she

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really hasn't had much to do this this entire season

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since the beginning, and I mean to have that one

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episode she was a cameo apparent, she didn't have any lines.

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Well that was last episode. Yeah, but she's got a

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real nice, meaty part here in this one. But she

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seems she seems very normal, and and I definitely agree

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with you. I think we're being thrown off the track here.

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I don't think she's gonna see uh see that promotion.

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There's no way as much as happened to her at

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the beginning of the season for them just as say

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oh hey everything's fine now, No way now, Yeah, I agree, Yeah,

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And if they did, I would feel cheated, I really would, Yeah,

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because they've given us something. I mean, maybe they did this.

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What they're working on with her, was she you know,

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the the procedures she's taking to keep that thing at

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day or whatever. Maybe it is working. I don't know,

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but I just feel like they're copying out a little

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bit on us. I could be wrong, but that's the

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way I'm feeling.

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Well, here's the thing is, when I was doing research

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for this episode, I came across a quote from the

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producers saying that, you know, they see what people say

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on the internet, they see the theories and the you know,

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what everybody's expecting, and they also say, you guys are wrong.

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Oh so I think I don't know. I mean, I

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don't know. They're going to throw us a curveball from

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what sounds like. So I'm not really sure which way

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they're going to go with her. I think it's a

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fifty to fifty shot right now, I mean guessing.

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Yeah, Well we shall see. Because the season's almost done, two.

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More episodes lying through it.

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Man, my goodness, I didn't think it would go this fast,

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but I guess when you have a good episode up

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a good episode, it's just it goes quick.

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Yeah, it has went pretty fast. Now now we're down

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to the actual story of these last two episodes. You

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know they're going to be angering down because they've got

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a lot of hanging storylines they do, you know, from

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this season, and they're gonna need the two episodes to cover.

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And I'm sure we're gonna have a cliffhanger at the end.

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I'm sure, Oh yeah, to push us into season four,

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because I mean they've already got season four in the

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in the can so which we'll see next year, so

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you know that's coming.

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It may not be a to be to be continued,

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but it will definitely lead the way into season four.

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I'm confident of that absolutely.

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Well, let's talk about this episode bore in detail, Wayne,

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because there's so many good scenes, so many good moments

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that just have you busting out laughing. And one thing

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I want to say is Patton also is always good

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and everything he does. I love Patton, and for him

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to play a vulcan with a surprise to us, but

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for him to play a vulcan whose name is Doug.

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He laughed. And then when he said his other family

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members' names that that was hilarious.

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Yes, I think his sister's name was Susan.

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Or something like that. It was so unusual, but that's

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that's that's Baton All's well. You know you can't expect

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something normal from the performance from him.

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Yeah, yeah, his sister was Susan. He has a cousin, Pete. Yeah,

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I mean, come on now. When he said it was like,

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wait a minute, he's on bulket. It doesn't all I

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see what they're doing here. Okay, okay, just sit back

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and laugh. Yep, because that's what's what's what it is.

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Pelly is back. I'm glad to see her in this episode.

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When she went to give Pike a high five, dude,

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I'm like, and he's like looking at her like and

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he said, oh, you do not do that, and then

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he finally does give the give the high five.

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I thought that was perfect. She was so disappointed that

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she didn't get turned into a vulcan. All that pain

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looks so uh exciting for her. She felt like she

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was missing out.

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Yeah, it didn't affect her. Everyone's like rolling on the

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ground in pain and agony, and she just said in

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oh that's not that's not fair.

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Yeah. I loved her part.

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I did too. I did too. And I think the

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really funny part is too, is when they get beamed

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down and they fixed it instantly.

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I know all that made me laugh. That made me laugh.

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I thought that was hilarious. Just and nobody expec everybody's

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looking around like, you know, really what that's it?

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Fast?

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Sure?

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Oh my goodness. What are the moments did you like

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in this one?

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Oh gosh, there's so many. I mean, I love that

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end sequence. I really liked Kirk and Scotti's interaction. Oh yeah,

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in this I liked, I liked Dugan, I liked a

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lot of There were so many great interactions in there,

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and so many there were so many characters, that's what.

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That's one thing that really surprised me about this episode

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is not only were there a lot of characters, but

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there were a lot of different storylines going on here.

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You know, it was so hard to keep track of them.

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Each character or we're doing was doing something different, and

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it's amazing that, uh the whole episode made any sense

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when you you when you did something like that. But

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but it did. I mean, there's there's so many good things.

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You know, there's your her, the way she uh uh

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brainwashed Beta and uh you know, Chapel and her deciding

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that you know, relationships and interactions where were logical and

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get riding of all those we got uh Una and

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and Doug's past relationship. And I liked uh rebecca remains

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performance and the way they wrote the character of you know,

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she had a lot to do in this episode, and

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she's I'll be honest, she's one of my favorite characters

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from this series because I find her so so fascinating

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and I find her performance, you know, really good. So

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I was glad to see that. I think I I

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think I really enjoyed that part the most, and especially

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the ending.

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Her apology to Spock. But what happened here, you know,

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you've never seen me like this before, you know, prepping

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him withthcoming when she sees Doug.

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Yeah, it's just it's you know, all these storylines were

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all separate, but they all came together and it just

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it just made a fantastically written, perfect episode in my opinion.

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I know there's a lot of This is another one

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of those episodes that seems just to have split the

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fan base, but those who love it really love this.

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I'm not gonna say. I don't want to say this

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maybe my favorite episode of the season, but it was

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definitely the funniest.

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It was some good belly laughs.

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It was definitely the most enjoyable. That would be the

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thing to say.

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Yeah, some very good belly laughs, and it would be

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an injustice if I didn't mention the bad ass walk

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down the hallway of the Vulcans with with the thong

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with a reckless youth by the Home of Happy because

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I haven't either. But that was awesome, I.

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Know, swinging that that lurp, like, I'll like, what are

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we getting ourselves into? What is the right?

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And it's sad that Scott couldn't be with us tonight

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because I really wanted to hear what he had to

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think about this episode, because he had.

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To have loved like us. I think he would have. Yeah, no,

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no doubt. We'll ask him next week. We'll ask him

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real quick next week.

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Yes, this is like a quick couple of sentences of

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what he thought about this episode so that the listeners

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can know how Scott felt about it. So yeah, absolutely.

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But to go back a little bit to the scene

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you were talking about when Kirk got beamed on board,

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I love that moment between I mean, there was a

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few moments between Kirk and Scottie, but I love when

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he finally says call me jump. I love that because again,

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that's that's leading what was coming into the future between,

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you know, with the relationship, and I thought that was

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pretty cool. And his introduction to the liquor, which I.

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Thought, oh, yeah, you can get used to it now.

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I do think it's the only if I was going

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to tea to nitpick for this episode, and that's I

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don't like doing this, but I'm gonna mention it because

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it's the only thing that actually kind of stuck with me.

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There really was no reason for Kirk to be there

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other than just to have his character in here. And

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I was really worried when he first appeared in because

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I didn't know. I mean, I didn't know he was

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in this episode. Really, I didn't even you know, when

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he first appeared, I started thinking, boy, this is going

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to be a really crowded episode, you know, because we've

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already got some of the others. You know, we got

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we got Vito, we got Corby's there. You know, we've

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got We've got the you know, the new character Doug.

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But I enjoyed it. I'm glad they put him in

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this episode. I mean, it made no sense for him

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to really, he really didn't need to be there. But

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it worked, you know. I'm glad because we got those

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interactions with Scottie and we got the whole hymns having

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to solve the problem with the lawn. Yeah. Just I

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you know, I just had to say that.

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I mean, it really was a very crowded episode, but

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it never felt like it.

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No, it didn't. It didn't because all this, even though

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the storylines were set, they they all kind of came

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together at the end. We all we knew that they

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were all running concurrent with one another.

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Yeah, it almost it almost felt like a Lower Decks episode,

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did it not?

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Yeah, you know, that's I think that was because of

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the pace. Yeah, the pace was very fast. They were

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a lot of great one liners and and and jabs

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and and and jokes here. It did really feel like

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a Lower Decks, which was always a well written series.

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Absolutely, and I'm kind of glad they kind of let

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that bleed into this show because it's perfect in Lower

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Decks and it fit really well here in Strange New Worlds.

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It did.

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It did.

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Absolutely, It was a good time. Well, we got to see

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Pelly's quarters again, Yeah, which was fantastic. They're looking around

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in the background trying to figure out what's going on

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back there because that was like their meeting room because

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that you know, they had to meet there in secrets.

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So the Falcans, they were the little conspiracy. They were

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having their their mutiny there their not not at what

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did these she say? It was it's not a mutiny,

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it's well, I can't remember what it was, but it

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made me chuckle. It was like this, yeah, they're just

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disagreeing or something like that.

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It was good and I like the line too, when

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like there could be permanent vulcan jerks and then Spock

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even agreed.

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He's like, yeah, well, yes they are.

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I mean it was just the fact that Spock just

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goes along with it.

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Yeah, you're right, but.

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But this point Spock was getting pushed around by him,

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so I guess he was realizing it too, that the

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half human of him was like, you know what, I

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agree with you. Yeah, jerks, I've had enough of it.

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And I think there's even a line in there where

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he's like he got pushed around when he's a kid,

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like by full blooded falcons and you know he's used

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to it basically, which he was getting again with all

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of with the crew members. So I mean, still was

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sad to see from Spock, but.

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Yeah, I don't know, but it's just like ridiculous.

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Yeah. So one of the things one of the scenes

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that absolutely thought was perfect in this was they got

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all of the crew to accept that they wanted to

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come back to being human except for long, and Spock

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basically goes into her mind right and basically talks to

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her to make her make that decision that she doesn't

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want to stay a vulcan. I absolutely loved how he

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started that fight and it turned into a dance. Oh yeah,

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that was the way that was choreographed, was done so well,

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and it was almost like, well, ln taught me how

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to dance, and that's kind of become our thing. She

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is very venomous right now and wanting to fight everyone

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in anything. So I'm going to provoke her into a fight,

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but I'm going to turn it into this dance that

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she's going to remember that it is our thing. I

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thought that was a perfect man.

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Yeah, and it was very unexpected because I'm gonna be honest,

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I saw something coming, but I really was expecting them

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to kiss, and I was hoping that it wasn't going

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to lead to that, and you know how, Oh, this

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is the point where their relationship, you know, moves forward further.

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So when when they started dancing, I'm thinking, oh, that

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that's that's clever. I like that. I like the way

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they they kind of just went right into emerged right

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into it. That whole sequence was fantastic.

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It was I.

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Well, I was just you know, with with Lawn, it

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seemed like the whole uh you know change in the

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Vulcans didn't quite work as well as with the others.

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And then you know, I know, there was mentioned of

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her augmentation affecting it, and I think, I know some

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of the theories that's going around is and I think

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I actually agree with this. She was more romulent than

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she was Vulcan. After all, they are very they're very

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very similar. They share ancestors, So you know, I like

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the idea. I like the idea that she was more warmonging,

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mongering like ancient Vulcans are like ram So.

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Well, I think Spock even basically calls her a con yeah,

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which really sets her off into into that fight, which

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again he's provoking that for for a very good reason.

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But yeah, I mean that I think that's what set

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her off onto this path. Was was all of that,

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that combination. You know, it just didn't set right with her.

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But thankfully Spock was already into this relationship with her,

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and it you know, he was helped to bring her

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back down to Earth so great. It really was. Another

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line that I absolutely loved was when Pike finally got

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turned back to human and he's like, all vulcans monsters, Yes.

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Well they just have bad hair.

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Yeah. Oh. It was almost like everybody came down off

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of being drunk or off of a high when they

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finally got turned back to humans, is what it was like.

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Right, Yeah, it did seem like that. Yeah, and apologizing

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it is you know, that's something that we've seen. We

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see that a lot of you know in Star Trek. Yeah,

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characters having to become other aliens to you know, to

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be disguised. We've seen them practically every series. But I'm

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gonna say Strange New Worlds did a phenomenal job at that.

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They made it. They made it fun, you know, they

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made it the the entire storyline, rather than just just

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something that needs to be done. I'm I'm impressed with

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that by the writers.

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I think it's a little bit of themselves just poking

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fun at themselves, right, is what it felt like. And

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it's very lighthearted and it's something that was well needed.

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I can kind it, yeah, I can kind of see

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why it's splitting the fan base. But in the end,

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and I had a feeling when I was watching it.

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By the time I got to the end of his Man,

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there's gonna be some truck fans out here going to

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hate this with a passion because of what they did

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with with with the comedy and stuff like that. But

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to me, I was like, we need this. Just sit

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back and laugh.

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I mean, you know that you hit it exactly what

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people are saying. You know, they don't like this type

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of comedy and Star Trek. And this isn't the first

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time this has been done either. We've had Comfy and

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Star Trek all the time, you know, even all the

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way back to the original series. I mean, let me think, well,

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you know the Trouble with Tribles, that's you know, that

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episode is just all comedy. Really, yes, that's written that way.

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Surely was another one that was written that had a

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lot of comedy. You know, all the series had it.

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Well you know, heck, you know Lower Decks, that's all

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that was was comedy. I mean, so we know it works.

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It's not something new that you know to Star Treks.

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So you know, if if you have problems with the

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with comedy and Star Trek, that's got nothing to do

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with Star Trek, that's all you absolutely, And you know

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that's another thing I wanted to say too, And now

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that brings up there is I don't know if this

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reminded you but of this, but this really felt like

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the next Generation's Rascals. Remember that episode that was that

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was done mostly for comedy anyways. I mean there was

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really no you know, danger or anything out of in

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that episode, so Frankie taken over the enterprise, but it

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felt a lot like that. Of course, you know the

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similarity of them haven't become kids and then you know

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one of them doesn't want to turn back at the end.

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It just felt very it paralleled that episode, which that's

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a great episode, so you know why not yep.

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And I liked the book end of this episode where

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you have Lan and Una who are getting together to

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talk about you know, basically trying to find out what

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their kind of secrets like Una doesn't want to go

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down to the planet to take a short leave and

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you know, Lowns got stuff going on with Spock and

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she doesn't want.

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To talk about it.

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So it's it's kind of nice that, like we booking

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it at the end with those two again and they

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basically finally let each other in on those secrets. You know,

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Una tells why she doesn't want to go down because

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of a past relationship, but it's also uh, which we

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know about all that. But anyway, I like Lawns when

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she said she found spots clean socks in his quarter.

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We are we are drawer people. Is that who we are?

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Yeah? Yeah, that was a great way, great scene in

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a great way they think the episode.

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Yes, I like the relationships that a lot of these

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characters are having. And it's sad because you know, a

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lot of this is going to end for us, because

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you know what's coming. We know who takes over the Enterprise,

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and we've only got you know, a couple episodes left

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of this season and only two seasons left, and by

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the time this ends, we know Kirk and Crewe are

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taking over the Enterprise. So it's sad to see that

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some of these characters are going to have to go away,

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whether it's they're gonna get killed off, or they're just

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gonna go somewhere else in the galaxy, maybe they go

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in a different ship and we just don't know about them,

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you know, in the original start track, because they never

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mentioned because they are in another ship somewhere we don't know,

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but it's gonna be sad to finally see them sunset.

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These characters, some of these characters, because we've really grown

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to love them and seeing their development with each other,

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even in this episode where it's all comedy, is just

476
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.440
perfect because we have some great actors and actresses in

477
00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.519
this every one of them is don't have a phenomenal

478
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.519
job in the roles, and they're just getting better and better.

479
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:05.839
Yeah, it seemed they seem like a cast that has

480
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.160
really uh gelled together. They've they've got the chemistry and

481
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.720
it's you know, it's we're now two and a half

482
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.240
years into the endto the series and they they're working

483
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.680
so much better. We're learning so much about these characters.

484
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:22.920
They're developing him further than than before. They they all

485
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.359
seem to love to be there and fortunately we still

486
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.440
got two more years. But it's going to be Yeah,

487
00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:29.799
I agree, it's going to be difficult that last season

488
00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.440
because you know, we've really learned to care and love

489
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.000
these characters and it's going to be hard even though

490
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:38.599
you know, we know where it's going and we like

491
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.319
where it's going, because you know, with the Kirk and

492
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.079
his crew. But it's gonna hard, it's gonna be hard

493
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.079
to see them go. I hope, I hope they all

494
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.640
get happy endings. I don't think that little, I really do.

495
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:50.839
I hope there's a happy end this.

496
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.839
I agree when but I think there there's not gonna

497
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:55.440
be happy ending for a couple of them. At least

498
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:58.599
we know there's not one for for I mean obviously, yeah,

499
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.720
we know that one's going. Yeah, but you know, when

500
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.160
we're talking like Ortegas, you know we're talking long, what's

501
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:06.319
going to happen to them? Yeah?

502
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.480
I don't know. These these are characters. We don't know

503
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.680
anything about their their history, so who knows.

504
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:14.880
Let's just hope they go to another ship and they

505
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:15.400
just move on.

506
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.880
We don't, We don't know. But yeah, yeah, so but.

507
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.519
That's coming soon, unfortunately, as in a couple of years.

508
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:25.640
Well yeah, in two years, I mean yeah, No, let's

509
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.359
not get sad yet. We still got we've still got

510
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:28.559
quite a lot of episodes to go.

511
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.920
We do, we do absolutely, and we don't get set

512
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.599
on this episode because this episode was so funny and

513
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.680
it was with an absolute right from beginning to end.

514
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:39.599
So no, absolutely good stuff and there's there's so many

515
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.079
things that happened in this episode that we could be

516
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.400
talking about this forever and we don't want to be

517
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.799
here as long as the episode so and we could

518
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:46.400
be Believe me.

519
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.960
Just everybody, if you haven't watched it, and you should

520
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.519
have if you before, you listen to this, but just

521
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.599
to watch it and enjoy it, just to set back

522
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.279
and just enjoy. Forget about continuity, forget about you know,

523
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.880
anything making sense. Just just have fun fun.

524
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:02.960
As we did Wisure did, all right, Wayne, which character

525
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.079
shined the most? I think we're gonna have the same answer,

526
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:06.680
but go ahead.

527
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.240
Well, I don't know. I'm giving this one because we

528
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.200
mentioned a little bit earlier to Spock yep, you know

529
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.240
we said a lot of it because you know, he

530
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.359
got ridiculed throughout the episode for being only half Falcan

531
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:24.279
and Ethan Peck just just, in my opinion, put on

532
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.960
probably his best performance this season. He's just he's He

533
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.440
was so funny and so sweet that I wanted to

534
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.079
hug him. Yeah, I know the thing. I wanted to

535
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.480
hug him, Although I'm pretty sure Spock would have thought

536
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:40.640
that as illogical, but you know it was. It was

537
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.480
really hard to say who shined, because everyone and it

538
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.960
really shined in this one. You know, they didn't. All

539
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.680
they did all did just a phenomenal job. I loved

540
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:51.559
all the storylines.

541
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.240
It was definitely a team effort. I will agree with

542
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.119
you on that everybody did a phenomenal job in this episode.

543
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.880
And comedy is hard, so the fact that you know

544
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.240
they were able to make us laugh and really enjoy

545
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.720
the episode just shows you what great performers they are.

546
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:06.599
And I, you know, so it is hard to find

547
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.599
someone who shine the most, because they all did. But

548
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.119
I do agree with you one hundred percent. I felt

549
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.839
Spock was just a little bit above everybody else because

550
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.440
you could truly see the hurt in his eyes. You

551
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.279
could see the understanding of how he must feel for

552
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.680
the humans when they interact with him. He sees that

553
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.240
when he's putting into this position. But you know, it's

554
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.039
even more than that. You know, he even mentions, like

555
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.559
we talked earlier, that he was picked on when he

556
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.880
was younger, ye which is true, which is very true yep.

557
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.559
And when he looks at Chapel, who's finally turned back

558
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.400
to human, tells him she understands him now. In that moment,

559
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.960
you could really see in Spock's eyes like, oh man,

560
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.359
because you know, the relationships over with and she's gone

561
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.799
back to Corby. But in that moment, it's almost like

562
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.039
a light bulb has come on with Chapel because and

563
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.920
she admits it to him. Now, I see how you think.

564
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.240
I understand you now now at that, but it's too

565
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.319
late for them. Even though they didn't say that in

566
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:09.680
those exact words, you know it is so again, you

567
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.680
saw that emotion in Spock, who is really good about

568
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.279
hiding that, but he allowed his humans that come out

569
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:16.599
a little bit more there because you could see it

570
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.319
in his eyes. And again back to Ethan peck Man,

571
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.759
is he a performer because you feel so bad for

572
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.240
him a few times in this episode. You sure you

573
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.559
get to laugh along with him, but there's some times

574
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.119
that you're just like, oh man, just like you said,

575
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.400
you wouldn't reach in and hug that man because it

576
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.119
was brutal at times for him, and he just kept

577
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.440
getting picked on, kept getting picked on because he's obviously

578
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.359
the half a falcon the four and half Falcons, which

579
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.319
was funny himself for the title. But I like that,

580
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.400
I did too, I did too. But then the whole

581
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.759
thing and how to go back to what I mentioned earlier,

582
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.400
the how he got long to come out of her

583
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:58.240
wanting to stay a falcon I thought was perfect. Using

584
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.240
the dance to bring her back down was just such

585
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.319
a lovely scene between those two characters. So yes, it

586
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.960
has to go to Spock in this episode without questioning.

587
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.160
So if you could be any character in this episode,

588
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:12.400
who would it be?

589
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:26.319
Wayne? But I'm gonna say Doug Okay, because because you know,

590
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.240
it sounds like his relationship with Una was well, let's

591
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:35.279
just say interesting, you know, but he gets to spend

592
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:36.960
some time with her at the end of the episode.

593
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.599
Because I love the character of Number one and that's

594
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.839
why I'd like to be Besides, did you see that

595
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.279
outfit she was wearing at the end there, which was

596
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:51.119
a short skirt and the booh my gosh.

597
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.559
Much more than a hair previously in the season, right, mm.

598
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.319
Hmm, Yeah, yeah, she was looking pretty good. So yeah,

599
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.680
I would I would love to have been Doug. There.

600
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.279
You know, interesting fact that has nothing to do with

601
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.880
anything I was. When I was doing the research for this,

602
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.960
I learned that Rebecca Remaine was born just a couple

603
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.519
of days before I was Oh really, But she's my

604
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.599
same my same age, so I found it interesting that

605
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:12.200
is so.

606
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:13.920
I mean she's just a few months older than me,

607
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:14.720
is what you're saying.

608
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.079
Yeah, yeah, born in a different year though.

609
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.039
Yeah, but in a different year, of course, but you

610
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.240
always be older than me, so that we'll always have that.

611
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.599
She was born on November sixth. Oh wow, that's pretty cool.

612
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.799
No, wonder you like her? No, she's awesome.

613
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.319
I've always loved her as an actress anyways, ever since gosh,

614
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.000
even before X Men came out, I knew of her.

615
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.039
I love her in this I love the way she's

616
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.680
performing Number one, a character that we knew a little

617
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.680
bit about, and it's really exploring. But yeah, I would

618
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.559
I want to meet her at a convention so bad,

619
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.200
just to just to tell her that tell how much

620
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.119
I love her performance.

621
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:51.920
So I was gonna I was gonna say, so when

622
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.799
we meet her at a convention one day, you're going

623
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.119
to be the con one on that one.

624
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.160
Right, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah.

625
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.000
Yeah. As hopefully we do get a chance to meet

626
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.920
her soon, because I won her autograph and I want

627
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:05.000
to meet her. I'm want to meet all of the

628
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.720
people from Straction worlds because they're all of me.

629
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:07.119
I do too.

630
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.880
Ethan Peck is high on my list, high high on

631
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:11.440
my list to.

632
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.079
Me, and they all do conventions. We know that, so

633
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:13.359
they do.

634
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.279
We've already mount twice.

635
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:15.839
Yep.

636
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.559
Yeah, come on the rest of the crew. We need you.

637
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:20.680
We need you to show who By the way, I

638
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.240
don't know if you saw this poor guy, you know,

639
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.920
a shout out to to antson mounts and hopefully he

640
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.400
gets better. He has COVID this week. Oh no, yeah,

641
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.079
so I guess they have to stop filming, so get better,

642
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.960
get well, yeah, get better an mount.

643
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.960
We need you back on that bridge. Well for me, Wayne,

644
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.880
I'm going to go back to a character that we

645
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:43.400
all love because I'm talking about Pelia because I want

646
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.319
to enjoy. I want to explore her damn quarters. Okay,

647
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:46.839
I really do.

648
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:47.960
I do.

649
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.079
The one scene that I thought was obviously hysterical, it's

650
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.519
very short, is when she's sound asleep in her bed

651
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.240
and then all of a sudden she just pops up

652
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.359
out of nowhere. I just said, these what was it,

653
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.640
these these twenty four minute shifts are killing me or

654
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:02.200
something like that.

655
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.920
Yeah, that was great.

656
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.960
It was I could see Scott see Pelly and Scott

657
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.319
are the same. I tell you they are.

658
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.079
They are. They are very similar. They may not admitted it, they.

659
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.559
Are, they really know. I would love to be Pelly

660
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.079
in this episode because her quarter is so cool and

661
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.960
I really wanted to go and explore that.

662
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.799
So I know that, you know there's so much stuff

663
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.000
that we can't see that you know it hasn't been

664
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.640
on camera yet. You just want to explore every every

665
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:30.200
inch of it.

666
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.359
Yep, absolutely, all right, Well let's move on to I

667
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.759
know your favorite part of the episode, Easter Eggs. I

668
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.799
have one that I would like to mention before you

669
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.319
go crazy, go for it. Spock eating his sandwich with

670
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.599
hands to Paul would not.

671
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.680
Approve, that's right. I think she did mention. Yeah, they don't.

672
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:53.359
They don't use their hands. Nope. A little bit of

673
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.119
half human there. Yes, it's coming out there.

674
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.319
But what do you got for with Wayne?

675
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.640
Well, there wasn't. There wasn't too but there were a

676
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.119
few little, nice little things in here. But one of

677
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.000
the big things I note is first of all, that

678
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.480
they made a slight change to the opening title sequence.

679
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.039
They added the Jicaru creature from last episode in the sequence.

680
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.160
Now they seem to be adding little bits from each

681
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.720
episode from this season. Now, I wonder if they're going

682
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.720
to continue doing that each season. I mean, it wouldn't

683
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.559
make sense to continue these clips from this season into

684
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.759
next season, So I wonder I would like that idea

685
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.359
if they're going to adapt their title sequence for each season.

686
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.079
I love that idea.

687
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:31.799
I do too. I hope they keep that up.

688
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.279
And well, you mentioned the song Reckless Youth by Holmes

689
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:40.599
of Happy You know that. You said, interesting choice of

690
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.240
music for it. But one of the nice little it's

691
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.119
not really an easter egg, it's just kind of a

692
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.119
neat thing that I caught was the Enterprise crew are

693
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:55.000
planning their shore leave on the planet for Manty three,

694
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.799
which Ortigus mentions that they have a sandwich that has

695
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:03.519
fries in the sand which, now, I like, where have

696
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.160
I had fries in a sandwich before? I know I've

697
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:12.199
had it before. Your favorite city, Pittsburgh has a restaurant

698
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.559
called Permanty Brothers where they put the French fries in

699
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.480
the sandwich. And I'm I am certain that that Permanty

700
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.199
and Piermanty. Yeah, they're too close to two coincidence, you know,

701
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.679
I I've been there we're not listeners. We're not from Pittsburgh.

702
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.719
We're actually all from Cincinnati and they are they Ohio area,

703
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.760
and but I've been there before. I think it was

704
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.199
back in twenty thirteen and fourteen. I had a ruben

705
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:38.920
with French fries and it's pretty good.

706
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.079
Maybe when we go to Stale City we should stop.

707
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.320
Buying it's good. They got some great sandwiches. So anybody

708
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.239
is in Pittsburgh stop stop there, get a sandwich and

709
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:48.920
think about Star Trek Exchange in New Worlds.

710
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.280
Pittsburgh has a couple of good Hamburger joint. We had

711
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.960
that one what was it Burgatory toy.

712
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.960
That's another good point. Fantastic bag, that was fantastic. Absolutely

713
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.840
Pittsburgh people for him. Yes, yes, what if we got

714
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.079
Wayne ah right. There was a few others during the

715
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.159
boxing scene. You can see both kling on backlip and

716
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.679
a few Andrian knives in the background. Also, Pike's boxing

717
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.280
glove had little Starfleet symbols on them, which I thought

718
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.920
was kind of cute. Pike was also carrying a lerpa.

719
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.840
We see in that that one sequence. That's a traditional

720
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.199
Vulcan weapon. We've seen that many times on Star Trek.

721
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.039
We saw that original series in a mock time when

722
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.159
Kirk and Spock were fighting fighting for the what was

723
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.559
it the kalife yep And then we also saw it

724
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.360
on Star Trek Enterprise. Archer and to Paul had one

725
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.760
when they were venturing into the Forge. It's popped up

726
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.119
a couple of times on lower decks, and Admiral Janeway

727
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.280
had one on Star Trek Prodigies. Did you notice this though,

728
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.079
in the sequence that takes place in Lon's mind when

729
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.199
they're in the science lab there? Did you Did you

730
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.480
see the whales in the background water? I find, but

731
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.559
of course that was in her mind. I hope we

732
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.039
see that in the on the Real Enterprise before the

733
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.639
season's out, but hope, so you know they did it? Yeah,

734
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.320
And uh, there is a little bit, just a little

735
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:16.400
bit of a continuity mishappened this episode. When Back is

736
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.239
speaking to uh Lon, he mentions uh con union singh.

737
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.440
But in the original EPIS series episode Space Seed, Spock

738
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.800
doesn't know who that is. Uh, maybe you just forgot me.

739
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:30.599
He forgot.

740
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.400
It's that simple, he forgot. Yeah, I get a couple more.

741
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.920
Apparently there's there's there's some love of the show Enterprise

742
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:41.000
on this one.

743
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:42.119
I love that.

744
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.480
I do too. The vulcan scanner that Chapel is using

745
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.280
is an update to the design used by Tipaul.

746
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.239
Oh, yes it was. Yeah, yep.

747
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:55.880
And the the jokes about the human odor that was

748
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.199
mentioned on The Enterprise too, that vulcans are sensitive to

749
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.400
scent and find human odor unpleas.

750
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.800
I remember that. I think it was in the pilot

751
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.880
Paul mentions the smell and she can't handle the smell

752
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.079
of the of Archer's dogs, which was even worse. I

753
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.800
remember that. Yeah, I'm glad you've brought that out. I

754
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.119
heard them, but they slipped right past me. Yeah.

755
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.440
It's nice to see the Enterprise getting some love, doesn't it.

756
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.800
I do too. I love the series. It had its

757
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.880
ups and downs, but altogether the four seasons were really good.

758
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.800
In the cast was fantastic. It's nice to see all

759
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.519
these Star Trek series, including Enterprise, including the animated series

760
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.960
and Lower Decks getting tied into the rest of the continuity. Yeah.

761
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.559
And you know, we're hearing rumors that Scott Bacula made

762
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.039
me come back as Archer in some role, and I

763
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:37.880
hope that's true.

764
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.679
I would love that. I would absolutely love that. I'd

765
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:41.480
watch every minute of that.

766
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.360
I were too, for sure. All right, Wayne, So what

767
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.519
are we seeing for the episode coming up this week?

768
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:47.360
Do you know anything?

769
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.239
Well? What was it called? Turanium? Did I pronounce it right? Okay?

770
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.039
Sure, sure.

771
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.519
Paramount did not really sublurb this week because they've said

772
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.840
that they're keeping the last two episodes a close secret.

773
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.000
Good So I don't know anything about that except for

774
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:06.440
the fact that you know, obviously we're going to be

775
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.800
wrapping up plot lines from the season, but the producers

776
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.400
did promise us an Ortagis episode, and we know she's

777
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.920
got a big plot line hanging out there right now,

778
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.880
so it's I have a feeling that this is the

779
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.719
episode there. I don't think they'll save it for the

780
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.920
final finale. I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong, but I

781
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.000
think this next episode is going to be the Ortegis

782
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.360
centric episode.

783
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.920
It would make sense because I don't think they would

784
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.000
do that in the finale.

785
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:32.880
No. I mean, they may have a little bit, but

786
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.199
they need they need a whole episode to cover that

787
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.320
because that was that's something major, was that she's you know,

788
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.800
she's got PTSD from her corn experiences. We need an

789
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.280
episode about that. Plus you know, I'd love to see

790
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.480
an episode centering her. I mean, you know, it's it's time.

791
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.199
I agree, it's the time. So listeners, what do you

792
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.920
think is going to happen with the last two episodes?

793
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.719
What are your thoughts on the episode that we covered today.

794
00:38:58.480 --> 00:38:59.920
I hope you enjoyed it as much as we do

795
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.199
because I found it hysterical. It was nice to sit

796
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.800
back and enjoy a comedy set in the world A

797
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.840
star Trek it was, Wayne is always thank you for

798
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.559
joining me on the bridge. It's always a blast, Yes

799
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:11.880
it is.

800
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:13.239
I love talking Star Trek with you.

801
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.280
Yep, me too. It's fun. You can check us out

802
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.440
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803
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.760
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805
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806
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808
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809
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810
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