Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E8 Four-and-a-Half Vulcans

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0:59 Plotting the course always is your core track Crew. I'm David Purns and I'm Wayne Whited. Scott has decided to take on the role of Pellia and is not with us for this episode as he is on another away mission we think, or he's hiding somewhere in engineering we don't. Regardless, he will be back for the next episode. Red Alert listeners, if you are not caught up with a series, please go do so as there mini spoilers ahead. We don't want to spoil this one because this was a lot of fun that we're going to dig into here shortly, but we will be right here waiting on the bridge when you return. So this episode four and a half of Vulcans. We have had some serious episodes these last two weeks with some heavy endings, so finally we get a comedic episode to help us relax and laugh. Wayne tell our listeners what this episode is about.

1:50 Sure, The Enterprise is asked by the Vulcans to help take care of a problem on the planet t Tzar, whose energy system is overloading, which would real and a nuclear meltdown. The planet has only ever had contact with Vulcans, Therefore, to respect the prime Director, Captain Pike, Nurse Chapel, Yurhura, and Laan undergo a process to change them into full blooded Vulcans while they undertake the mission, but upon their return, the four decide that remaining Vulcan would only be logical, creating unique problems for each member of the crew. Meanwhile, visiting officer Lieutenant James Kirk teams up with Scotty to help with the problem, and Una calls her Vulcan ex boyfriend Doug to help reunite the four new Vulcans with their catchers, hoping to convince them to change back to their original selves.

2:40 Very good. I have to say this episode was exactly what we needed. Yeah. I laughed and I truly enjoyed myself. From beginning to end of this episode. There was a lot to enjoy. There was ancient mount is so far over the top in his performance, But holy crap, did I laugh hysterically. Wayne. His vulcan hair was ridiculous. I know he loves the shout. You know, everybody else was playing it pretty much like normal vulcans, you know, the way you would expect them to play it. But he I mean you, you hit it right there on over the top. But every time he started speaking, he reminded me of Dan Ackroyd's character of Beldar from Cone Heads. It was so much. It was just it was hilarious. Every time he spoke.

3:33 I loved. I loved the opening ti A sequence that they allowed him to do that flat toned. Oh that was so funny. I was surprising it was. But as soon as he's started saying it, saying the lines in that flat tone dialogue he did the vulcan dude, I just started laughing. I said, this is gonna be a fun episode. Yeah, And sure enough, it was. It was. You know, what was said is I felt sorry for Spock. Did you Yeah? I did. I mean he was getting kind of ridiculed for being half vulcan, you know. But you know, I I'll mention later how much you know I felt for him, But yeah, he was. I I did feel bad for him. Yeah, I mean that they are the beginning when he had to go force to eat by himself and think, oh, of course, spot.

4:18 I know he looked. He looked so lonely sitting there eating his sandwich. He sued sadly. One thing is for sure, though, for those of you who might have turned off early, make sure you stay through the credits, because at the end there is some comedy gold between Doug and s Boch. I'm not sure if that's actually part of the continuity or just something that because to me, it seemed like that was more the actors just happening. It's a little bit of fun than than actually scripted or something. But I loved it. I loved it. It was I I laughed all the way through. That I did too, And I think you're right. I don't think it was scripted. I think they were just having fun, because when when when Doug that goes away.

5:01 When Patton Oswo walks away, I mean, Ethan Peck just looks up and just starts busting out. Laughing a big smile on his face. Yes, they're perfect, perfect, And you know, I know we've mentioned how much we love Ethan Peck a spock Man. He just gets better and better. Wayne, I agree, I agree. He was phenomenal in this episode. I loved the way he performed it. You know, you felt for him, you were dead, you know, he seems so even though he's with all the Balkans. There's so many Balkans in this episode. He seems so out of place because yeah. And it makes sense. I mean, I guess they wanted us to feel sorry for him, and we did, We really did. And we'll get to more of that a little bit later. I'm sure one thing though, that I think I figured out these writers are up to something.

5:50 They are throwing a curveball at us. With the tail, we see hope for her character because she gets promoted at the end of this episode. Well you know later on she's gonna getromoted because she's gonna get that role. I think they're trying to throw us off the path. And there's still something bad coming for her. I agree. She seemed quite normal, yeah, in in this episode, which you know, I'm glad to see her. I was really glad to see her in this episode because she really hasn't had much to do this this entire season since the beginning, and I mean to have that one episode she was a cameo apparent, she didn't have any lines. Well that was last episode. Yeah, but she's got a real nice, meaty part here in this one. But she seems she seems very normal, and and I definitely agree with you. I think we're being thrown off the track here.

6:39 I don't think she's gonna see uh see that promotion. There's no way as much as happened to her at the beginning of the season for them just as say oh hey everything's fine now, No way now, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, And if they did, I would feel cheated, I really would, Yeah, because they've given us something. I mean, maybe they did this. What they're working on with her, was she you know, the the procedures she's taking to keep that thing at day or whatever. Maybe it is working. I don't know, but I just feel like they're copying out a little bit on us. I could be wrong, but that's the way I'm feeling. Well, here's the thing is, when I was doing research for this episode, I came across a quote from the producers saying that, you know, they see what people say on the internet, they see the theories and the you know, what everybody's expecting, and they also say, you guys are wrong.

7:28 Oh so I think I don't know. I mean, I don't know. They're going to throw us a curveball from what sounds like. So I'm not really sure which way they're going to go with her. I think it's a fifty to fifty shot right now, I mean guessing. Yeah, Well we shall see. Because the season's almost done, two. More episodes lying through it. Man, my goodness, I didn't think it would go this fast, but I guess when you have a good episode up a good episode, it's just it goes quick. Yeah, it has went pretty fast. Now now we're down to the actual story of these last two episodes. You know they're going to be angering down because they've got a lot of hanging storylines they do, you know, from this season, and they're gonna need the two episodes to cover. And I'm sure we're gonna have a cliffhanger at the end. I'm sure, Oh yeah, to push us into season four, because I mean they've already got season four in the in the can so which we'll see next year, so you know that's coming.

8:15 It may not be a to be to be continued, but it will definitely lead the way into season four. I'm confident of that absolutely. Well, let's talk about this episode bore in detail, Wayne, because there's so many good scenes, so many good moments that just have you busting out laughing. And one thing I want to say is Patton also is always good and everything he does. I love Patton, and for him to play a vulcan with a surprise to us, but for him to play a vulcan whose name is Doug. He laughed. And then when he said his other family members' names that that was hilarious.

8:55 Yes, I think his sister's name was Susan. Or something like that. It was so unusual, but that's that's that's Baton All's well. You know you can't expect something normal from the performance from him. Yeah, yeah, his sister was Susan. He has a cousin, Pete. Yeah, I mean, come on now. When he said it was like, wait a minute, he's on bulket. It doesn't all I see what they're doing here. Okay, okay, just sit back and laugh. Yep, because that's what's what's what it is. Pelly is back. I'm glad to see her in this episode. When she went to give Pike a high five, dude, I'm like, and he's like looking at her like and he said, oh, you do not do that, and then he finally does give the give the high five.

9:39 I thought that was perfect. She was so disappointed that she didn't get turned into a vulcan. All that pain looks so uh exciting for her. She felt like she was missing out. Yeah, it didn't affect her. Everyone's like rolling on the ground in pain and agony, and she just said in oh that's not that's not fair. Yeah. I loved her part. I did too. I did too. And I think the really funny part is too, is when they get beamed down and they fixed it instantly. I know all that made me laugh. That made me laugh. I thought that was hilarious. Just and nobody expec everybody's looking around like, you know, really what that's it?

10:20 Fast? Sure? Oh my goodness. What are the moments did you like in this one? Oh gosh, there's so many. I mean, I love that end sequence. I really liked Kirk and Scotti's interaction. Oh yeah, in this I liked, I liked Dugan, I liked a lot of There were so many great interactions in there, and so many there were so many characters, that's what. That's one thing that really surprised me about this episode is not only were there a lot of characters, but there were a lot of different storylines going on here. You know, it was so hard to keep track of them. Each character or we're doing was doing something different, and it's amazing that, uh the whole episode made any sense when you you when you did something like that. But but it did. I mean, there's there's so many good things.

11:11 You know, there's your her, the way she uh uh brainwashed Beta and uh you know, Chapel and her deciding that you know, relationships and interactions where were logical and get riding of all those we got uh Una and and Doug's past relationship. And I liked uh rebecca remains performance and the way they wrote the character of you know, she had a lot to do in this episode, and she's I'll be honest, she's one of my favorite characters from this series because I find her so so fascinating and I find her performance, you know, really good. So I was glad to see that. I think I I think I really enjoyed that part the most, and especially the ending.

11:54 Her apology to Spock. But what happened here, you know, you've never seen me like this before, you know, prepping him withthcoming when she sees Doug. Yeah, it's just it's you know, all these storylines were all separate, but they all came together and it just it just made a fantastically written, perfect episode in my opinion. I know there's a lot of This is another one of those episodes that seems just to have split the fan base, but those who love it really love this. I'm not gonna say. I don't want to say this maybe my favorite episode of the season, but it was definitely the funniest. It was some good belly laughs. It was definitely the most enjoyable. That would be the thing to say.

12:37 Yeah, some very good belly laughs, and it would be an injustice if I didn't mention the bad ass walk down the hallway of the Vulcans with with the thong with a reckless youth by the Home of Happy because I haven't either. But that was awesome, I. Know, swinging that that lurp, like, I'll like, what are we getting ourselves into? What is the right? And it's sad that Scott couldn't be with us tonight because I really wanted to hear what he had to think about this episode, because he had. To have loved like us. I think he would have. Yeah, no, no doubt. We'll ask him next week. We'll ask him real quick next week.

13:17 Yes, this is like a quick couple of sentences of what he thought about this episode so that the listeners can know how Scott felt about it. So yeah, absolutely. But to go back a little bit to the scene you were talking about when Kirk got beamed on board, I love that moment between I mean, there was a few moments between Kirk and Scottie, but I love when he finally says call me jump. I love that because again, that's that's leading what was coming into the future between, you know, with the relationship, and I thought that was pretty cool. And his introduction to the liquor, which I. Thought, oh, yeah, you can get used to it now. I do think it's the only if I was going to tea to nitpick for this episode, and that's I don't like doing this, but I'm gonna mention it because it's the only thing that actually kind of stuck with me.

14:06 There really was no reason for Kirk to be there other than just to have his character in here. And I was really worried when he first appeared in because I didn't know. I mean, I didn't know he was in this episode. Really, I didn't even you know, when he first appeared, I started thinking, boy, this is going to be a really crowded episode, you know, because we've already got some of the others. You know, we got we got Vito, we got Corby's there. You know, we've got We've got the you know, the new character Doug. But I enjoyed it. I'm glad they put him in this episode. I mean, it made no sense for him to really, he really didn't need to be there. But it worked, you know. I'm glad because we got those interactions with Scottie and we got the whole hymns having to solve the problem with the lawn. Yeah. Just I you know, I just had to say that.

14:53 I mean, it really was a very crowded episode, but it never felt like it. No, it didn't. It didn't because all this, even though the storylines were set, they they all kind of came together at the end. We all we knew that they were all running concurrent with one another. Yeah, it almost it almost felt like a Lower Decks episode, did it not? Yeah, you know, that's I think that was because of the pace. Yeah, the pace was very fast. They were a lot of great one liners and and and jabs and and and jokes here. It did really feel like a Lower Decks, which was always a well written series. Absolutely, and I'm kind of glad they kind of let that bleed into this show because it's perfect in Lower Decks and it fit really well here in Strange New Worlds. It did.

15:33 It did. Absolutely, It was a good time. Well, we got to see Pelly's quarters again, Yeah, which was fantastic. They're looking around in the background trying to figure out what's going on back there because that was like their meeting room because that you know, they had to meet there in secrets. So the Falcans, they were the little conspiracy. They were having their their mutiny there their not not at what did these she say? It was it's not a mutiny, it's well, I can't remember what it was, but it made me chuckle. It was like this, yeah, they're just disagreeing or something like that. It was good and I like the line too, when like there could be permanent vulcan jerks and then Spock even agreed.

16:13 He's like, yeah, well, yes they are. I mean it was just the fact that Spock just goes along with it. Yeah, you're right, but. But this point Spock was getting pushed around by him, so I guess he was realizing it too, that the half human of him was like, you know what, I agree with you. Yeah, jerks, I've had enough of it. And I think there's even a line in there where he's like he got pushed around when he's a kid, like by full blooded falcons and you know he's used to it basically, which he was getting again with all of with the crew members. So I mean, still was sad to see from Spock, but. Yeah, I don't know, but it's just like ridiculous.

16:55 Yeah. So one of the things one of the scenes that absolutely thought was perfect in this was they got all of the crew to accept that they wanted to come back to being human except for long, and Spock basically goes into her mind right and basically talks to her to make her make that decision that she doesn't want to stay a vulcan. I absolutely loved how he started that fight and it turned into a dance. Oh yeah, that was the way that was choreographed, was done so well, and it was almost like, well, ln taught me how to dance, and that's kind of become our thing. She is very venomous right now and wanting to fight everyone in anything. So I'm going to provoke her into a fight, but I'm going to turn it into this dance that she's going to remember that it is our thing. I thought that was a perfect man.

17:57 Yeah, and it was very unexpected because I'm gonna be honest, I saw something coming, but I really was expecting them to kiss, and I was hoping that it wasn't going to lead to that, and you know how, Oh, this is the point where their relationship, you know, moves forward further. So when when they started dancing, I'm thinking, oh, that that's that's clever. I like that. I like the way they they kind of just went right into emerged right into it. That whole sequence was fantastic. It was I. Well, I was just you know, with with Lawn, it seemed like the whole uh you know change in the Vulcans didn't quite work as well as with the others. And then you know, I know, there was mentioned of her augmentation affecting it, and I think, I know some of the theories that's going around is and I think I actually agree with this. She was more romulent than she was Vulcan. After all, they are very they're very very similar. They share ancestors, So you know, I like the idea. I like the idea that she was more warmonging, mongering like ancient Vulcans are like ram So.

19:01 Well, I think Spock even basically calls her a con yeah, which really sets her off into into that fight, which again he's provoking that for for a very good reason. But yeah, I mean that I think that's what set her off onto this path. Was was all of that, that combination. You know, it just didn't set right with her. But thankfully Spock was already into this relationship with her, and it you know, he was helped to bring her back down to Earth so great. It really was. Another line that I absolutely loved was when Pike finally got turned back to human and he's like, all vulcans monsters, Yes. Well they just have bad hair. Yeah. Oh. It was almost like everybody came down off of being drunk or off of a high when they finally got turned back to humans, is what it was like.

19:49 Right, Yeah, it did seem like that. Yeah, and apologizing it is you know, that's something that we've seen. We see that a lot of you know in Star Trek. Yeah, characters having to become other aliens to you know, to be disguised. We've seen them practically every series. But I'm gonna say Strange New Worlds did a phenomenal job at that. They made it. They made it fun, you know, they made it the the entire storyline, rather than just just something that needs to be done. I'm I'm impressed with that by the writers. I think it's a little bit of themselves just poking fun at themselves, right, is what it felt like. And it's very lighthearted and it's something that was well needed.

20:30 I can kind it, yeah, I can kind of see why it's splitting the fan base. But in the end, and I had a feeling when I was watching it. By the time I got to the end of his Man, there's gonna be some truck fans out here going to hate this with a passion because of what they did with with with the comedy and stuff like that. But to me, I was like, we need this. Just sit back and laugh. I mean, you know that you hit it exactly what people are saying. You know, they don't like this type of comedy and Star Trek. And this isn't the first time this has been done either. We've had Comfy and Star Trek all the time, you know, even all the way back to the original series. I mean, let me think, well, you know the Trouble with Tribles, that's you know, that episode is just all comedy. Really, yes, that's written that way.

21:10 Surely was another one that was written that had a lot of comedy. You know, all the series had it. Well you know, heck, you know Lower Decks, that's all that was was comedy. I mean, so we know it works. It's not something new that you know to Star Treks. So you know, if if you have problems with the with comedy and Star Trek, that's got nothing to do with Star Trek, that's all you absolutely, And you know that's another thing I wanted to say too, And now that brings up there is I don't know if this reminded you but of this, but this really felt like the next Generation's Rascals. Remember that episode that was that was done mostly for comedy anyways. I mean there was really no you know, danger or anything out of in that episode, so Frankie taken over the enterprise, but it felt a lot like that. Of course, you know the similarity of them haven't become kids and then you know one of them doesn't want to turn back at the end.

22:00 It just felt very it paralleled that episode, which that's a great episode, so you know why not yep. And I liked the book end of this episode where you have Lan and Una who are getting together to talk about you know, basically trying to find out what their kind of secrets like Una doesn't want to go down to the planet to take a short leave and you know, Lowns got stuff going on with Spock and she doesn't want. To talk about it. So it's it's kind of nice that, like we booking it at the end with those two again and they basically finally let each other in on those secrets. You know, Una tells why she doesn't want to go down because of a past relationship, but it's also uh, which we know about all that. But anyway, I like Lawns when she said she found spots clean socks in his quarter.

22:50 We are we are drawer people. Is that who we are? Yeah? Yeah, that was a great way, great scene in a great way they think the episode. Yes, I like the relationships that a lot of these characters are having. And it's sad because you know, a lot of this is going to end for us, because you know what's coming. We know who takes over the Enterprise, and we've only got you know, a couple episodes left of this season and only two seasons left, and by the time this ends, we know Kirk and Crewe are taking over the Enterprise. So it's sad to see that some of these characters are going to have to go away, whether it's they're gonna get killed off, or they're just gonna go somewhere else in the galaxy, maybe they go in a different ship and we just don't know about them, you know, in the original start track, because they never mentioned because they are in another ship somewhere we don't know, but it's gonna be sad to finally see them sunset.

23:43 These characters, some of these characters, because we've really grown to love them and seeing their development with each other, even in this episode where it's all comedy, is just perfect because we have some great actors and actresses in this every one of them is don't have a phenomenal job in the roles, and they're just getting better and better. Yeah, it seemed they seem like a cast that has really uh gelled together. They've they've got the chemistry and it's you know, it's we're now two and a half years into the endto the series and they they're working so much better. We're learning so much about these characters. They're developing him further than than before. They they all seem to love to be there and fortunately we still got two more years. But it's going to be Yeah, I agree, it's going to be difficult that last season because you know, we've really learned to care and love these characters and it's going to be hard even though you know, we know where it's going and we like where it's going, because you know, with the Kirk and his crew. But it's gonna hard, it's gonna be hard to see them go. I hope, I hope they all get happy endings. I don't think that little, I really do.

24:49 I hope there's a happy end this. I agree when but I think there there's not gonna be happy ending for a couple of them. At least we know there's not one for for I mean obviously, yeah, we know that one's going. Yeah, but you know, when we're talking like Ortegas, you know we're talking long, what's going to happen to them? Yeah? I don't know. These these are characters. We don't know anything about their their history, so who knows. Let's just hope they go to another ship and they just move on. We don't, We don't know. But yeah, yeah, so but. That's coming soon, unfortunately, as in a couple of years. Well yeah, in two years, I mean yeah, No, let's not get sad yet. We still got we've still got quite a lot of episodes to go. We do, we do absolutely, and we don't get set on this episode because this episode was so funny and it was with an absolute right from beginning to end.

25:36 So no, absolutely good stuff and there's there's so many things that happened in this episode that we could be talking about this forever and we don't want to be here as long as the episode so and we could be Believe me. Just everybody, if you haven't watched it, and you should have if you before, you listen to this, but just to watch it and enjoy it, just to set back and just enjoy. Forget about continuity, forget about you know, anything making sense. Just just have fun fun. As we did Wisure did, all right, Wayne, which character shined the most? I think we're gonna have the same answer, but go ahead. Well, I don't know. I'm giving this one because we mentioned a little bit earlier to Spock yep, you know we said a lot of it because you know, he got ridiculed throughout the episode for being only half Falcan and Ethan Peck just just, in my opinion, put on probably his best performance this season. He's just he's He was so funny and so sweet that I wanted to hug him. Yeah, I know the thing. I wanted to hug him, Although I'm pretty sure Spock would have thought that as illogical, but you know it was. It was really hard to say who shined, because everyone and it really shined in this one. You know, they didn't. All they did all did just a phenomenal job. I loved all the storylines.

26:51 It was definitely a team effort. I will agree with you on that everybody did a phenomenal job in this episode. And comedy is hard, so the fact that you know they were able to make us laugh and really enjoy the episode just shows you what great performers they are. And I, you know, so it is hard to find someone who shine the most, because they all did. But I do agree with you one hundred percent. I felt Spock was just a little bit above everybody else because you could truly see the hurt in his eyes. You could see the understanding of how he must feel for the humans when they interact with him. He sees that when he's putting into this position. But you know, it's even more than that. You know, he even mentions, like we talked earlier, that he was picked on when he was younger, ye which is true, which is very true yep.

27:33 And when he looks at Chapel, who's finally turned back to human, tells him she understands him now. In that moment, you could really see in Spock's eyes like, oh man, because you know, the relationships over with and she's gone back to Corby. But in that moment, it's almost like a light bulb has come on with Chapel because and she admits it to him. Now, I see how you think. I understand you now now at that, but it's too late for them. Even though they didn't say that in those exact words, you know it is so again, you saw that emotion in Spock, who is really good about hiding that, but he allowed his humans that come out a little bit more there because you could see it in his eyes. And again back to Ethan peck Man, is he a performer because you feel so bad for him a few times in this episode. You sure you get to laugh along with him, but there's some times that you're just like, oh man, just like you said, you wouldn't reach in and hug that man because it was brutal at times for him, and he just kept getting picked on, kept getting picked on because he's obviously the half a falcon the four and half Falcons, which was funny himself for the title. But I like that, I did too, I did too. But then the whole thing and how to go back to what I mentioned earlier, the how he got long to come out of her wanting to stay a falcon I thought was perfect. Using the dance to bring her back down was just such a lovely scene between those two characters. So yes, it

29:05 has to go to Spock in this episode without questioning. So if you could be any character in this episode, who would it be? Wayne? But I'm gonna say Doug Okay, because because you know, it sounds like his relationship with Una was well, let's just say interesting, you know, but he gets to spend some time with her at the end of the episode. Because I love the character of Number one and that's why I'd like to be Besides, did you see that outfit she was wearing at the end there, which was a short skirt and the booh my gosh.

29:49 Much more than a hair previously in the season, right, mm. Hmm, Yeah, yeah, she was looking pretty good. So yeah, I would I would love to have been Doug. There. You know, interesting fact that has nothing to do with anything I was. When I was doing the research for this, I learned that Rebecca Remaine was born just a couple of days before I was Oh really, But she's my same my same age, so I found it interesting that is so. I mean she's just a few months older than me, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, born in a different year though. Yeah, but in a different year, of course, but you always be older than me, so that we'll always have that. She was born on November sixth. Oh wow, that's pretty cool. No, wonder you like her? No, she's awesome. I've always loved her as an actress anyways, ever since gosh, even before X Men came out, I knew of her.

30:35 I love her in this I love the way she's performing Number one, a character that we knew a little bit about, and it's really exploring. But yeah, I would I want to meet her at a convention so bad, just to just to tell her that tell how much I love her performance. So I was gonna I was gonna say, so when we meet her at a convention one day, you're going to be the con one on that one. Right, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. As hopefully we do get a chance to meet her soon, because I won her autograph and I want to meet her. I'm want to meet all of the people from Straction worlds because they're all of me. I do too. Ethan Peck is high on my list, high high on my list to. Me, and they all do conventions. We know that, so they do. We've already mount twice.

31:15 Yep. Yeah, come on the rest of the crew. We need you. We need you to show who By the way, I don't know if you saw this poor guy, you know, a shout out to to antson mounts and hopefully he gets better. He has COVID this week. Oh no, yeah, so I guess they have to stop filming, so get better, get well, yeah, get better an mount. We need you back on that bridge. Well for me, Wayne, I'm going to go back to a character that we all love because I'm talking about Pelia because I want to enjoy. I want to explore her damn quarters. Okay, I really do. I do. The one scene that I thought was obviously hysterical, it's very short, is when she's sound asleep in her bed and then all of a sudden she just pops up out of nowhere. I just said, these what was it, these these twenty four minute shifts are killing me or something like that.

32:03 Yeah, that was great. It was I could see Scott see Pelly and Scott are the same. I tell you they are. They are. They are very similar. They may not admitted it, they. Are, they really know. I would love to be Pelly in this episode because her quarter is so cool and I really wanted to go and explore that. So I know that, you know there's so much stuff that we can't see that you know it hasn't been on camera yet. You just want to explore every every inch of it. Yep, absolutely, all right, Well let's move on to I know your favorite part of the episode, Easter Eggs. I have one that I would like to mention before you go crazy, go for it. Spock eating his sandwich with hands to Paul would not.

32:45 Approve, that's right. I think she did mention. Yeah, they don't. They don't use their hands. Nope. A little bit of half human there. Yes, it's coming out there. But what do you got for with Wayne? Well, there wasn't. There wasn't too but there were a few little, nice little things in here. But one of the big things I note is first of all, that they made a slight change to the opening title sequence. They added the Jicaru creature from last episode in the sequence. Now they seem to be adding little bits from each episode from this season. Now, I wonder if they're going to continue doing that each season. I mean, it wouldn't make sense to continue these clips from this season into next season, So I wonder I would like that idea if they're going to adapt their title sequence for each season.

33:29 I love that idea. I do too. I hope they keep that up. And well, you mentioned the song Reckless Youth by Holmes of Happy You know that. You said, interesting choice of music for it. But one of the nice little it's not really an easter egg, it's just kind of a neat thing that I caught was the Enterprise crew are planning their shore leave on the planet for Manty three, which Ortigus mentions that they have a sandwich that has fries in the sand which, now, I like, where have I had fries in a sandwich before? I know I've had it before. Your favorite city, Pittsburgh has a restaurant called Permanty Brothers where they put the French fries in the sandwich. And I'm I am certain that that Permanty and Piermanty. Yeah, they're too close to two coincidence, you know, I I've been there we're not listeners. We're not from Pittsburgh.

34:28 We're actually all from Cincinnati and they are they Ohio area, and but I've been there before. I think it was back in twenty thirteen and fourteen. I had a ruben with French fries and it's pretty good. Maybe when we go to Stale City we should stop. Buying it's good. They got some great sandwiches. So anybody is in Pittsburgh stop stop there, get a sandwich and think about Star Trek Exchange in New Worlds. Pittsburgh has a couple of good Hamburger joint. We had that one what was it Burgatory toy. That's another good point. Fantastic bag, that was fantastic. Absolutely Pittsburgh people for him. Yes, yes, what if we got Wayne ah right. There was a few others during the boxing scene. You can see both kling on backlip and a few Andrian knives in the background. Also, Pike's boxing glove had little Starfleet symbols on them, which I thought was kind of cute. Pike was also carrying a lerpa.

35:22 We see in that that one sequence. That's a traditional Vulcan weapon. We've seen that many times on Star Trek. We saw that original series in a mock time when Kirk and Spock were fighting fighting for the what was it the kalife yep And then we also saw it on Star Trek Enterprise. Archer and to Paul had one when they were venturing into the Forge. It's popped up a couple of times on lower decks, and Admiral Janeway had one on Star Trek Prodigies. Did you notice this though, in the sequence that takes place in Lon's mind when they're in the science lab there? Did you Did you see the whales in the background water? I find, but of course that was in her mind. I hope we see that in the on the Real Enterprise before the season's out, but hope, so you know they did it? Yeah, And uh, there is a little bit, just a little bit of a continuity mishappened this episode. When Back is speaking to uh Lon, he mentions uh con union singh.

36:21 But in the original EPIS series episode Space Seed, Spock doesn't know who that is. Uh, maybe you just forgot me. He forgot. It's that simple, he forgot. Yeah, I get a couple more. Apparently there's there's there's some love of the show Enterprise on this one. I love that. I do too. The vulcan scanner that Chapel is using is an update to the design used by Tipaul. Oh, yes it was. Yeah, yep. And the the jokes about the human odor that was mentioned on The Enterprise too, that vulcans are sensitive to scent and find human odor unpleas. I remember that. I think it was in the pilot Paul mentions the smell and she can't handle the smell of the of Archer's dogs, which was even worse. I remember that. Yeah, I'm glad you've brought that out. I heard them, but they slipped right past me. Yeah.

37:14 It's nice to see the Enterprise getting some love, doesn't it. I do too. I love the series. It had its ups and downs, but altogether the four seasons were really good. In the cast was fantastic. It's nice to see all these Star Trek series, including Enterprise, including the animated series and Lower Decks getting tied into the rest of the continuity. Yeah. And you know, we're hearing rumors that Scott Bacula made me come back as Archer in some role, and I hope that's true. I would love that. I would absolutely love that. I'd watch every minute of that. I were too, for sure. All right, Wayne, So what are we seeing for the episode coming up this week? Do you know anything? Well? What was it called? Turanium? Did I pronounce it right? Okay? Sure, sure. Paramount did not really sublurb this week because they've said that they're keeping the last two episodes a close secret.

38:00 Good So I don't know anything about that except for the fact that you know, obviously we're going to be wrapping up plot lines from the season, but the producers did promise us an Ortagis episode, and we know she's got a big plot line hanging out there right now, so it's I have a feeling that this is the episode there. I don't think they'll save it for the final finale. I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this next episode is going to be the Ortegis centric episode. It would make sense because I don't think they would do that in the finale. No. I mean, they may have a little bit, but they need they need a whole episode to cover that because that was that's something major, was that she's you know, she's got PTSD from her corn experiences. We need an episode about that. Plus you know, I'd love to see an episode centering her. I mean, you know, it's it's time.

38:48 I agree, it's the time. So listeners, what do you think is going to happen with the last two episodes? What are your thoughts on the episode that we covered today. I hope you enjoyed it as much as we do because I found it hysterical. It was nice to sit back and enjoy a comedy set in the world A star Trek it was, Wayne is always thank you for joining me on the bridge. It's always a blast, Yes it is. I love talking Star Trek with you. Yep, me too. It's fun. You can check us out at www dot a film by podcast dot com for film and TV articles and our entire library streaming free. You can write to us at a film by Podcast at gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns.

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