Nov. 19, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Four

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Four
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Season 6Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

Our popular "Starter Treks" mini-series is back with a look at Deep Space Nine! Our crew is leaving the bridge and settling in at the Promenade to share the ten episodes you need to see from season four, if you aren't ready to watch all 26 episodes!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to phass Set to Stun,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek and its ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, and more. Plotting

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the course, as always, is your core track Crew. I'm

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David Burns, I'm Scott Hoffin, and I'm Wayne Whited. In

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this episode, we are continuing our discussion on what we

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call the Starter Trek. This is going to be Star

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Trek A Deep Space nine Season four. So, gentlemen, I

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absolutely love the new opening theme. I am so glad

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that they finally decided to change it because it is

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much more heroic. But also I love the fact that

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the space station is now busy.

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Yeah that was a big change. That title sequence.

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Yeah yeah, I mean you have a space station floating

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in space that really doesn't have a lot going on

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what one ship. I'm okay, we need to add a

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little bit more depth to the space station to show

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up how busy it is. So you get little people

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working on the ship, on the station, you got different

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ships floating around. I think it's the new opening is

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much much better.

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Well, I understand what they were trying to do with

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the original, and they were trying to show the bleakness

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and how far out it was, and you know, and

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that it's kind of alone in the in the universe.

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But we're past that now. I mean, it's definitely not alone.

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Everybody's visiting it, yes.

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So we're able to see that. It's good to see

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like the evolution of title sequences, Like not that there

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was any kind of growth with Finished Generation, but this

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seems to kind of lay the ground work for things

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like Strange New Worlds and the rid decks to have

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some fun with the title sequences and make them sometimes

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a little bit more meaningful.

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Yeah.

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Oh, there's a big difference now between this one and

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the original one. The original one was shot on with models.

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This is all CGI, which is something that's now making

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its way into the series big time. The title sequence

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was done by Industrial Light and magic. They did a

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fantastic job at it. And plus we got Forget, we

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got Michael Dorn added to the cast, and we got

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Doctor Prisher's actor has changed his name to Alexander Sadig,

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So that's two new things there as well.

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Yep, that's a big spoiler to go. No, I'm kidding, Well,

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we can't get around. We can't get around it.

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Yeah, no way getting around that.

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No, there's no way getting around after this season. So, yes,

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Worf does join the cast, which I think if you

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know anything about Star Trek, you knew that was happening anyway. Yeah,

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so no surprise there.

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They didn't even keep it a secret back then. We

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all knew about it like months before this season started.

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Yeah. And and he fits so well, he really does.

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It's almost like someone coming home and making you feel

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better about the show. And there's nothing wrong with the show,

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don't get me wrong, but just having Wharf there just

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makes it feel more comfortable. Am I wrong in that?

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It was?

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It just it didn't change the dynamic of the series.

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That's one thing I was a little against it back

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then at the end of the day when it first happened,

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because I'm like you know, why is he coming and

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interrupting the cast the station, But that didn't happen. He

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actually worked his way and became I'm actually part of

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the whole chemistry very fast, and it was kind of

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nice seeing him there again.

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Yeah, and see him in Red again, saying that since

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what season one looks good on Deseration? It does? It

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looks really good.

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It's also feels like it would be impossible to have

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such a you know, a Klingon centric arc start without

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having such kind involvement now that they couldn't do it.

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But yeah, I mean my first reaction was, oh, okay.

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Then we get another familiar face in addition to O'Brien,

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and that O'Brien might feel a little bit more kind

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of kinship, which is kind of interesting because you already

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had one established with the rest of his career. Here,

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It's interesting how much that dynamic doesn't always work out well,

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right as we see kind of clay out in this season.

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Yep, you're correct. Well, let's go ahead and get started

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with our top ten episodes. I'm sure our listeners are

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anxiously awaiting for us to dive into this. Scott, I

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believe you are going to start us off. So go ahead.

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Yeah. So, speaking of warf if you haven't seen Star

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Trek Generations, highly it, go ahead and watch that now

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before you start this season, because The Way of the Warrior,

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directed by James L. Conway and written by Robert Hewett Wolfe,

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picks up fresh off the tension of the Dominion infiltration

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last season. If you now that we can finally talk

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about it, it's the ending of the previous The ending

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of the previous season finale was a change link, confiding

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in Odo that we are everywhere. So we pick up

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on DS nine practicing drills to flush out change links

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on the station with Odo as the kind of practice

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bait there, and the threat of the Alpha Quadron is

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becoming more urgent than ever. It seems to have reached

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the Klingon Empire. General Martok appears in the Klingon flagship

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at DS nine, ready to stand at the station with

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the Federation to face the Dominion, but to prove his claim,

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a massive fleet declose outside the station. Soon in DS

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nine is filled with Klingons who take the initiative to

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search relentlessly for changelings at the cost of station privacy

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and freedom. Soon it becomes clear that DS nine could

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use some help, which arrives in the form of a

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Lieutenant Commander Wharf Freshman. The enterprises destruction scene in the

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movie struct Trek Generations.

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Another big spoiler. I'm kidding.

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I mean it gets It's a good point to say,

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like from here on in, it's very hard to avoid

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spoilers in this because there's such an interwoven arc through

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all these episodes. We'll try to dance aroundud as much

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as possible, but it it's starting to get pretty tough.

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Yeah, there's certain aments will still dance around, but you

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are correct. There are some things that I'm sorry, it's

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just it's so ingrained into the season you can't get

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around it no matter how hard you do, especially for

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the next for the rest of the series. I think

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there's some stuff that's so ingrained that you just can't

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get around it. That's right, So just just hold on.

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People will get there, I promise. So what I love

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about this episode is Gowern because that dude will just

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stare through your soul.

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Oh yeah, those eyes, yes, right, he does.

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He's frightening.

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I've seen a lot of other reviewers and whatnot say, like,

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you know, the first time, reactions will be like, oh,

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that cling on with the eyes, that flais his eyes

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all the time. It's it's hypnotic. Yeah, and Robert o'riidley

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does a great job there.

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He does. We get a bald Cisco, Yeah, Yes, and

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he looks he looks really good. I mean, I feel

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like he's gotten better shape because he just looks. I

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don't know, but he just looks completely different. I know

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he's bald now, but I mean even in uniform and stuff,

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he looks completely different.

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He has a different demeanor for sure. He seems more confident,

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he seems bolder. I feel like Wayne, when we were

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covering the documentary, there was some kind of mention of

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Avery Brooks always wanting to go back to this look

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that he originally had, but there was some hesitation around

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it looking like Hawk from Spencer for higher that's great.

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It almost kind of feels like Avery is kind of

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coming home into this and he's like, Okay, now that

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I've established the Cisco that I want to play, let

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me really lean into what I want Cisco to be.

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So this is the start of one of my favorite

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phases of him, because I feel like it's not just

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his look but his the way he carries himself.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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They were expecting a lot of opposition to get from

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Paramount against him going bald, but this time they didn't

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give any problem at all. They said, okay, and so yeah, yeah.

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He looks very commanding. Now there's no doubt about that.

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The dude needs business. I want to call out Patricia

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Almond in this, who plays the He played lead at

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Alexander on Babylon five. I love the fact that I

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keep coming back to Babylon five. I swear there's really

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startug fans that are going to hate me of this,

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But I'm telling you, there's just a lot. There's a

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lot of comparisons between these two theories.

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There had to be. I mean, they were running concurrently,

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you know. Yeah, there was going to be a lot

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of comparison. There was back then in the nineties.

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Yes, there was. I remember, I absolutely do remember. She

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also played Barbara in the nineteen ninety version of Night

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of Living Dead. Yeah, yep.

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I feel like there's gonna have to be a series

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that you two do, just like we do with Jeff

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to kind of get him started on Star Trek. I

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think you two need to get me on board with

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Babylon five curated list that.

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I was so into DS nine at the time that

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when I saw like sequest DSV and I was like,

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are they trying to be DS nine? And then I

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saw Babylon five just because of the titles, which I

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know is so shallow, but I was like, Ugh, they're

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not quite this thing that I like. So I never

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give him a chance. Yeah, it's probably a mistake.

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It is, it is, it is, it is. You chose,

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you chose quarterly sir, how about how about a warfa

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ordering the warriors drink? Yeah.

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I love that he's still on the Peru. It's fantastic.

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I feel like somewhere g is just grinning every time

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he every time he yeah.

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Yeah, No, really good. Two partern Waiting a great way

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to open up the theories and the fact that they

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are really starting to dive into some more serious episodes

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and overarching story. It's big beginning here with Deep Space nine.

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Yeah, and we don't want to forget there. Also is

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another very important Klingon that appears, Hennas Martalk.

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JG.

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Hertzler did a fantastic job. We'll see a lot more

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of him. We got a brand new Klingon Cruiser here

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in this episode, we needed it badly. Is it is

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a great two parter, great movie, but if you're going

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to go and watch it, try to find the two

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hour version and not the separate one hour two parter

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because in order to make it the two separate episodes,

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they had to cut a lot of it out, and

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there's a good fifteen minutes of footage that's cut from it.

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So try to find that two hour version.

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And that's why we get on Paramount Plus. Is that right?

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Yes?

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That is okay, Yes, if you watch it, if you

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watch it on two B or any of those other

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ones or like they split it and you're missing those scenes,

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they're important scenes too.

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They are. Yeah. I like it. I like that Paramount

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kept it as one big movie. He's basically what it is.

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I like yeah, And it kind of tricked me because

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when I got to the next episode, I was like, wait,

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did I miss one? Because it doesn't see him to

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track that long.

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But yeah, it didn't know it flowed really well. You're right,

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You're you're even to the point where like where would

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they have ended this episode? And I know where it's at,

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but I'm just saying it's because it was so smooth

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that you just didn't recognize that at all. So no

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very good two parter for sure. All right, well, let's

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written by Michael Taylor and directed by David Livingston. It

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is the future in adult Jake Cisco lives in the

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Bayou by himself. He is visited by a young woman

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named Melanie, an aspiring writer who was looking for him

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and wondering why he stopped writing. Jake goes in to

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finally tell a story that he has wanted to tell.

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He proceeds to tell the story of when he was

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eighteen years old and his father went on the Defiant

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in the Wormhole to witness a subspace inversion that only

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happens once in several decades. An accident occurs on the ship,

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causing Benjamin to disappear and seemed beat to be dead.

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Months later, Jake has a vision of his father reappearing

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in his bedroom, followed by yet another time he appears

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and this time seems to be back, but despite the

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effort of those on the station, lose him once again

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as he fades away. This wouldn't be the last time,

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and a never ending search that would be last a lifetime,

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continuing a very touching story between father and son. This

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was a really really good episode. I'm telling you. We

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had a very good Jake Benjamin episode last season. We

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had a this is another one for this season. Very

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good chemistry. Uh you know Tony Todd playing as the

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adult version of Jake. Tony Todd is amazing in everything

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that guy does. Yes, may may he rest in peace.

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We lost him last year. But just the the the

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actor was it what say Loftons that his name Rock

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Claftonah Hilman. Every Brooks are just really good with one another,

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and you really believe they are father and so and

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I believe we talked about that the one episode. But

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in this one, man, it's just such a fantastic job

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again and this episode just really breaks your heart of

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what happens at the end of this episode. What has

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to happen I should say at the end of this

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episode just to make things right, really breaks your heart.

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ism that I probably say a lot. This one hit

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me like a hammer, like yeah, before the ending. The

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ending has its own kind of hit in different ways.

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But the dynamics of this were so genuine and sincere

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and emotionally powerful. Like I love Tony Todd as kerrn

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Orf's brother, love him even more as Jake Cisco. I

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thought it was interesting to learn that when this episode,

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Tony Todd had recently lost his aunt who raised him

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as a child, three months before. And I saw a

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quote where he says, the script got me out of

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my shell. It was like she was whispering to me

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go back to work, and doing this was as close

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to heaven as I can imagine. When you hear that

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behind what's clearly a very emotionally powerful performance by him,

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it makes me like this season or this episode.

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Even more absolutely. And I love the fact that Nog

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is still Nog. Yeah, yes, nothing's changed. So I guess

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that just shows you the fringy you know, how they

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age differently than everybody else does, clearly. And I believe

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this episode one A was nominated for an Emmy for

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Outsideing Makeup, but I don't think it won.

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But it did get nominated, No, it it lost it.

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It was going up against some some big stuff. Well

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now I take that back, you did, You were right,

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it was nominated, did not win. It was also nominated

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for a Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation that year. Again,

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it was going up against a Toy Story and a

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Paula thirteen twelve Monkeys, but it lost that one to

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to Babylon five.

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Oh look you're there. We're gonna bring that one back.

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I get it.

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I get This is probably the only time I actually

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disagree with them, because this is probably one of the

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most powerful episodes of the series. It's definitely one of

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the most It was the episode that everyone talked about

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the most. Really, I remember it being all over the news,

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all over the sci fi magazines. It's deserving of attention.

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It's a great episode, great performance is great score by

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Dennis McCarthy, which I'm glad like. Within like six months

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it was available to purchase. Everything about this episode is

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fantastic and it's I do not miss this episode.

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Casting trivia, I didn't realize that the actress that plays

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Melanie the aspiring writer is Rachel Robinson, the daughter of

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Andrew Robinson Gerrek k.

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Oh, Yeah. Interesting. That's what I love about Star Trek

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and how it just you know, keeps it in the family. Sure,

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they do an incredible job with that, and in the

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fact too that like, even though you may play an

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alien in that generation, you can play somebody else in

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D Space nine voyager, and on and on and on.

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I love the thing. I know why not. You're behind makeup.

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You know you're really not going to notice it, So okay,

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go with it. And I like that. I appreciate that,

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really really do. All right, Well, let's move on to

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number three. Scott looks like this is you again.

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Yep. So Wayne, I'm gonna ask you with one very

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specific part I want you to help me with.

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Okay.

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So. Hippocratic Oath is written by Lisa Klink and Nicholas Correa.

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It's directed by Odo, played by Thank You at Least

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trip Over It one of my favorite actors in the series,

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and I'd love to see him in the director's chair here.

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After a cert mission. In the Game of Quadrant, Bashir

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and O'Brien crash land on a planet where they're taken

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prisoner by a renegade group of gem Hitdar. The small

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self soldiers are unlike the rest of the gem Hitdar,

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and that their leader has somehow broken free of his

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addiction kett yoursell White, the drug that makes them dependent

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on the founders. Their leader sees a chance to help

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his brethren by forcing Bashir and O'Brien to help them

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replicate that cure, but time is running out as their

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addiction threatens to kill them. Although Bashir feels obligated to

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help them as a physician, O'Brien adamantly disagrees. These two

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friends risk losing their lives and their friendship over this

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daunting task. Meanwhile, back at the station on Deep Space nine,

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Wharf and Odo have a strong disagreement about how station

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security should be run. Hard to talk about this one

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without spoilers, but it seems like a very, very important

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episode when you look at the dynamic between Bashir and O'Brien,

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knowing that it doesn't always. It's not always you know,

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World War two fight better sessions in the Hollow Suite, right,

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Sometimes there can be at odds with each other and

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an interesting way to look at how the presence of

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the Dominion and the jed Hdar can create some division

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between friends.

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What I really is about this episode is the fact

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that Warf is uncomfortable. He's he seems like he's struggling

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to fit in and find his place and that really

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did happen, because apparently according to ronaldy Moore, he said

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he used to be a cop more or less on

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the USS Enterprise D but it's not going to be

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like that anymore. We wanted to keep emphasizing this is

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not the next generation. The station doesn't work like the Enterprise.

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Wolf is going to have to some troubles fitting in,

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but he's going to learn. And I like that. I

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like that in that character because that gives a different

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dimension to Warf because it just makes him uncomfortable. We

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know what it's like when Warf is uncomfortable.

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Yeah, don't be around, Yeah, don't.

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Be wrong.

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Now this I'll be honest. This hasn't never been one

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of my favorite episodes of the series. Is not I

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don't hate it, but it's just never really enthralled me.

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But I will acknowledge that it is very important to

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the series, not just for the development of the Jimidar,

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but that, as you mentioned, the friendship between Sheer and O'Brien.

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You know, but Shear's his ethics means that he's not

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going to let anybody die there, you know, not even

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his enemies. But but O'Brien, with his history his war

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history and his combat history. You know, it makes it

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really hard for him to trust the Jimidar. I mean,

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and it makes sense. I mean, you have to look

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at it both sides. It's it really is like you're

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seeing two sides of the same coin.

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You know.

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I just found the episode a little slow, a little talkie,

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but a very important episode, and the performances are fantastic.

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Yeah, it's very uh character building because two characters here

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who are friends are really starting to fall apart and

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you're seeing that in this episode. So yeah, I think

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it's very important. So yeah, I agree with you. It

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is a little talkie, but it feel very very important.

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That was kind of an interesting like choice that they

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have to make, Like I find it very hard to

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say like one was right in one because it could

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have easily gone either way.

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Mm hmm, yeah, sure could have.

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And have you noticed because it starts here and I

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want everyone to pay attention to this. You know that

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Warf never addresses Quirk by his name. He always calls

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him the FARRINGI our tender. I never noticed this before

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and until I saw this pointed out to me, and

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then now I can't not stop seeing it or hearing it.

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It's hysterical. I love it. I love it. Yep.

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And you would think that he would there'd be a

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little bit more respect developing, because it's like this guy's

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keeping you stocked in prune juice. He's probably paying, he's

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probably you know, judging you a premium before it.

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But you know, too funny. All right, Well, Wayne, I

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think it's finally your turn for number four.

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And number four is Indiscretion. The stories by Tony Marberry

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and Jack Trevino and it's written by Nichols Korea, directed

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by LeVar Burton. Kiera Naris receives information about the possible

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location of a long lost Cardassian prisonship on which her

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former resistance lover was held. She reluctantly joins gold Da

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Kott on a mission to the desolate planet where the

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wreckage is located. During their search, Dakott reveals that he

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is secretly looking for a half the Jordan daughter Torah Zayal,

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who was also aboard the ship. When they find Zayou alive,

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Dacott faces the choice between killing her to protect his

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career and saving her and facing disgrace. Now, you know,

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just like the previous episode that we just talked about.

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This is very important to the relate, you know, relationship

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between Kira and Dakott, just like that one was important

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to the relationship between O'Brien Wasshir and the development of

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the Kardashian Kardassians at this point, you know, Da Kott

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is he's portrayed here not as being that you know,

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that one sided scheme Cardassian officer that we've known for

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the first two years, especially from the show, but you know,

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now's he's a father. He's confronting the consequences of his

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past choices, you know, especially regarding his daughter's il which

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you know, this is her first appearance. And and Kira,

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you know, another great episode. We've had some great episodes

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in the past, but this is another one that where

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she really shines a lot of complexity to her character.

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She has to to cooperate with the man that she

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despises and you know, to save this child. You know,

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it's it's just the dilemma that they're placed in, you know,

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especially to kat between his career and the government and

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his daughter. It's very powerful. It makes this a very

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powerful episode just it allows both of them to move

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on from what we know before and expand the characterization,

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the depth, and this is exactly what this series needed

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right here at this this middle point in the show.

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And I believe this is the first appearance of the Brain.

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Yes, which they've been mentioned a couple of times, but

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we got to see them, yeah, because.

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Even the next generation, I believe I had mentioned them

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and we had never seen them before. Yeah, so this

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is this is the first time. Yeah, this is a

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really good episode between those two characters. I can't imagine

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having to be in kirera shoes for something like that,

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because I mean, you can almost compare that to World

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War Two and putting two people from Germany and from

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somewhere else and they have to cooperate and work together,

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and you can imagine how well that would not go

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over together go well over well. So the fact that

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you're seeing that here, I can't imagine what Kira would

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have to go through. And she is, in a visitor,

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such an incredible actress, and she's sow so much depth

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in her performances, and she does it here too. You know,

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she almost she didn't want him to go obviously, but

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she understood that, you know, Cisco really wanted her to

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do it. Whether its inn order or not, but she

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still needed to do it, you know. So no, very

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good episode.

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It is interesting how theyre uh the relationship with a

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lot of people, especially Kira and Ducott. How they're it's

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like taffy, Like they get close together and then they're

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pulled apart, and then they close together like they they

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should not like each other. You can see times when

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they get kind of common ground and then to cutt

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usually reminds of like, oh, but I'm actually a horrible person,

467
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:30.319
so don't get too close.

468
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:30.599
You know.

469
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.240
It's great dynamics between them.

470
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.559
It really is. You know, it's funny for the Cardassians.

471
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:39.200
I don't know if Ducott is my favorite or Garrick.

472
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.400
I love both of them very very much. And as

473
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.000
I go through if I go through these things, when

474
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.319
I'm going through this again, I'm watching it closely because

475
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:48.240
I'm trying to figure out, Man, which one of these

476
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:49.559
is the better character. But I don't know if I

477
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.000
can decide, to be honest with you, because they're both incredible.

478
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.799
Yeah, and they both have very great character development all

479
00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:56.880
the way through the series. Yeah, wow, I would be

480
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.599
hard choice, Yes, it would. Maybe we'll talk about that.

481
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:01.440
The episode season seven.

482
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:05.200
How about that? Yeah, most likely, Yeah, that sounds like

483
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.039
a fine tone. All right, Well, let's go ahead and

484
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:09.720
take a break, gentlemen, and when we come back, we

485
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:13.640
will continue our discussion of season four, Deep Space nine.

486
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.799
Welcome back to listeners as we continue our discussion of

487
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.559
Star Trek Deep Space nine, Season four. Of our top

488
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:26.519
ten episodes that you should watch, number five. Now, this

489
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:31.720
is a fun episode, I might add Very Little Green Men,

490
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:36.079
written by Robert Hewitt, Wolf and Tony Marberry, directed by

491
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:41.160
James Conway in a parody of nineteen fifty science fiction films.

492
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.279
QRK wants to test out the new ship, Quark's Treasure

493
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:47.559
he's acquired, so he and Rob take knocked Earth to

494
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.359
begin his Starfleet training. On the way there, they learned

495
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.400
the ship had been sabotaged, causing him not to be

496
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.519
able to drop out of warp equip. A quick thinking

497
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.519
rom does what he can to prevent sure destruction. Before

498
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:00.640
they know it, the three of them find themselves on

499
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.559
Earth in nineteen forty seven, being held against their will

500
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.000
by the military. Of course, Gordic is up to what

501
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.839
he does best, trying to get some financial gain while

502
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.240
someone special happens to come along to try and get

503
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:16.559
them help to get back to their own time. I'm

504
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.160
not going to ruin who that is. We're going to

505
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.440
keep that a secret so I won't get phasered on

506
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:26.599
this episode. No, this was a really really fun episode

507
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:32.400
because what a great way to explore you know, Area

508
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.559
fifty one and those kind of things that was going

509
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.759
on in our country back then. Great job start trek,

510
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.960
you know. I know we get a lot of episodes

511
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.079
where they go back into the past and they show

512
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:44.599
up on Earth and stuff like that, but I tell

513
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.440
you what, this was a really unique one and one

514
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:48.920
that really stood out to me.

515
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.480
Yeah, it's one where I'd encourage people to look beyond

516
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.880
the description of the episode whatever platform you're on, because

517
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:58.960
I personally kind of rolled my eyes in the description.

518
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.480
I was like, I don't know if I want to

519
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:02.960
do this. It feels like it's gonna be fun, but

520
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:08.240
too fun and whatever. Wow, this was such amazing performances

521
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:15.000
by Quark and Rom and Nog, especially when the universal

522
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:23.200
translator as I love the the use of that and

523
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.880
the resolution of that. I think we're pitch perfect. And

524
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.000
then how Quark kind of leans into the predicaments was

525
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.480
very entertaining, Like all of it, cover to cover was

526
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.920
just a lot of fun. Ye, so I highly encourage

527
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:38.480
Washington soon.

528
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.319
I even even said last season on how much Rom

529
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.119
has grown on me. He grows even more on me

530
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.160
this season. And this is one of the episodes that

531
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.680
he really does max is it grodent chick? Is that

532
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:54.000
how you pronounce his name? Does an incredible job as Rom.

533
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.319
And you know, there are so many scenes here that

534
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.200
are just you know, you kind of bust out laughing

535
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.559
at it when he started going, what my moviie, I

536
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.000
just lost it. I just loved it. It was so good.

537
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.279
But just just had his relationship between him and Nog.

538
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.799
I love the relationship so much because I mean, Cork

539
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.200
is this jerk. Let's be honest, He's a jerk, and

540
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.559
Robs just trying to look out for his son, you know,

541
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.279
and you know, he stands up for Nog all the time,

542
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.680
even though Cork puts a Rom down. And it's just

543
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.279
I just love that relationship between the two of them.

544
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.400
But there was a lot of fun in this episode.

545
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:30.599
There really was.

546
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.000
There was this I've always considered this one of my

547
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.000
top ten of the entire series. I love this episode

548
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.079
when it first aired. I love it again. I've watched

549
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:42.319
it twice for this podcast. It's just such a fun episode.

550
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.160
And we needed these fun episodes because we got a

551
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.359
lot of darkness coming ahead. So it's great to have

552
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.680
this nice little break in the storyline. And and like

553
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.400
you said, the three actors, the three u f Enda

554
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.839
actors are just wonderful. I love the for Indy. They

555
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:01.519
don't annoying me at all. I love the episodes. I

556
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.279
look forward to them all. I'm glad we chose this one.

557
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.039
I knew we would. Everything about this episode is great.

558
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:09.640
And I love the fact that we get to see

559
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.599
we get to hear them speak their own language. I mean,

560
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.119
that's something we never found heard before first time. Ye,

561
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.079
so many, so many great things. Don't want to spoil

562
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.960
it because it's it's worth watching. You're you're gonna enjoy it.

563
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.720
Yeah. Absolutely. And in them thinking Quirk is their mother.

564
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.480
Oh my god, that was so funny, Well, I don't

565
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.319
it is for her to say. It's probably not spoiling

566
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:34.160
anything if I say that. We see that uh Nog

567
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.079
has the lobes to stand up for himself.

568
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.359
And sometimes stick the Yeah, that's not spoiling anything, you.

569
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.759
Know, so great, great use of all three of them

570
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:42.920
in this.

571
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.680
Yeah, absolutely, all right. Well, let's move on to our

572
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.920
sixth episode, Wayne, and.

573
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.000
That is our man Basher, written by Robert Gillen and

574
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.079
Ronerd D. Moore and directed by wind Rich Colby. Doctor

575
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:01.400
Julian Basher indulges in his favorite Hollow Suite fantasy, playing

576
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:06.519
a suave nineteen sixty secret agent. When a transporter accident occurs,

577
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.720
the station's crew patterns are stored in the Hollowsuites memory,

578
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.480
merging their identities with the program's characters. To keep them alive,

579
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.160
Basher must stay in character and complete the adventure well.

580
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.680
Garret joins him and questions his adherents to idealistic spy tropes.

581
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.680
As Basher faces off against a villain modeled after Doctor

582
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:31.839
Noah bearing Cisco's likeness, he is forced to use ingenuity

583
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.839
rather than violence to outwit his enemies. Now Here, this

584
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.839
is another fun episode. We had two of them practically

585
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.599
back to back, and like I said, it's definitely needed

586
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.960
a very fun, very light hearted episode, you know, like

587
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.799
it's we've got a lot of darkness coming up in

588
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:50.720
the season. Not that that's bad, but there's a lot

589
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.680
of really deep dramatic stories, so this nice little break

590
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.359
in there. But if you really look at it, it's

591
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.519
a typical straight forward Holidck episode. We've seen he ties before,

592
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.400
you know, and there's no no secret of what they're

593
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.720
what they're parroting here. It's you know, it's Dame James Bond.

594
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.680
Obvious. They got for that too.

595
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.039
Yes they did. They they got a very stern letter

596
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.440
from from MGM, which I thought was hilarious. I did

597
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.680
not know that before until I was doing the research

598
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.440
for this. Yeah, I guess they weren't very flattered with

599
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.599
with what they had. But you know, there's a lot

600
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.200
of a lot of great visual gags, a lot of

601
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.119
great clever writing, you know, and and even just even

602
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.960
a bit of character growth for Basher and Garrick, you know,

603
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.839
the two of them in their relationship. It's definitely one

604
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.240
of my again, one of my favorite episodes of the

605
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.599
series because the cast, it looks like they're having a

606
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.000
lot of fun. You know, The sets are incredible, stunts

607
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.680
done nicely. They really spent a lot of money on

608
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.759
this to do it right, so, uh, you know, screw you, MGM.

609
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:52.519
You know, let's have fun.

610
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.759
And and not to give anything away, but the person

611
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.720
who plays the villain did an amazing job as the villain.

612
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:01.839
Yeah.

613
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.839
Yes, I loved him as the villain. Was like, holy crap, man,

614
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.440
you're good. And he was having fun. You really could

615
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.759
tell he was having a blast. Yeah.

616
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.400
I think this is another one where I kind of

617
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.519
rolled my eyes when I saw the description and I

618
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:18.079
was like, oh no, but it plays out really well,

619
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.799
like it's it's fun when it has to be. It

620
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.599
has the right amount of danger involved. It certainly does

621
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.079
make me think that, like present day, whatever that would be,

622
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.440
they've got to have so much advancement in halideck technology

623
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.039
and security because there are so many times some of

624
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.359
these wacky Halodeck mishaps. It's like, all right, do they

625
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.279
have like protocols in place so they can pull certain

626
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:48.119
switches or whatever to make things not fall into chaos?

627
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.880
But if they did that, there'd be no stories, so.

628
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.559
They wouldn't be right. And I think this came out

629
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.519
around the time Pierce Brosen's Golden Eye came out, didn't.

630
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.559
It, Yeah, ninety five.

631
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.480
Yeah, so it's interesting that they were doing that to

632
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.559
coincide with that film.

633
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.960
So but MGM, that's probably why MGM took notice.

634
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.920
I mean, if GM at their movie out yeah, yeah,

635
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.039
it's like calm down, like your movie is out there,

636
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:17.839
people can go back and see it again and again

637
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.000
and again and again. They can only see this one

638
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.839
again if they recorded on their VCR. Yeah right, so

639
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.480
like you're not hurting if anything is promoting your movie

640
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.200
exactly the spy mood to go watch it.

641
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.160
But yeah, it's almost like didn't the NIX generation get

642
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.599
slapped on the hand for Sherlock Holmes. They did the

643
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:35.400
same scenario.

644
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.039
Right right, And you know, I also want to point

645
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.839
out too that this had a fantastic musical score by j. Chadaway,

646
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.640
very unique score for Deep Space nine. It's also available

647
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.400
if you can find the Deep Space nine Volume one

648
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.480
by La La Land, which out of print. Really hard

649
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.839
to find, but the complete scores on it. It's worth listening.

650
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.480
Great great score and it was nominated for an Emmy Award.

651
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.039
That very jazzy almost double O seven bond. Yeah, theme

652
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.440
closed that it was very simple. It was the theme

653
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.200
to Deep Space nine that he.

654
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.920
Was You're right it was, which was really cool.

655
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.360
That's cool.

656
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.719
Yeah, very unique way to do it all right, Well,

657
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:16.119
let's move on to another two parter. Scott, this is you.

658
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.920
Yeah. We go from the light way back into the

659
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:24.039
heavy like the Big Old Swing, Home Front and Paradise Lost.

660
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.320
I'll just lump them together into one. Description written respectively

661
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.199
by Robert Hewett Wolfe and Ronald D. Moore, and then

662
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.400
directed respectively by David Livingston and Reva by Addie. The

663
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.599
wormhole begins opening and closing for no apparent reason as

664
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.960
horrible news comes from Earth. A massive explosion kills twenty

665
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.000
seven people in Antwerp, and a changeling has been spotted

666
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.679
at the crime scene. Cisco and Odo travel to Earth,

667
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.719
where Admiral Leyton makes Cisco acting head of Starfly Security

668
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.760
on Earth. His first mission is to convince the Federation

669
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.320
President to heighten security in ways that would severely curtailredom

670
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.800
of its citizens. Cisco also has an uncomfortable reunion with

671
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.679
his father, who not only reviews it to care for

672
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.920
his ailing heart, but also refuses to accept these new

673
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:15.000
security measures. Earth also reunites Jake with Nog, who longs

674
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.599
to join an elite group of cadets called Red Squad.

675
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.639
In the second part of this two part episode, martial

676
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.559
law is instigated, which puts Cisco's father at odds with

677
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.039
his son. However, as Cisco continues to investigate the Chin

678
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.119
the escalating threat, he finds a more insidious plot just

679
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:35.119
below the surface. I think there was a great family

680
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:42.840
dynamic between Joseph Cisco and Jake and Benjamin. Absolutely. I

681
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:48.920
love love Brock Peters in this role and in general,

682
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.960
like he's one of my favorite parts of you know,

683
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:57.559
Undiscovered Country, and his performances Joseph Cisco throughout the series

684
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:02.079
I think has done exceptionally well. I was also surprised

685
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.840
to see Susan Gibney as Commander Erica dun Team because

686
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.519
as soon as I saw I was like, oh, that's

687
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.519
Jordan's almost his crush squeeze or whatever. It was hard

688
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.280
not to see that. I was like, I'm so distracted,

689
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:22.079
like you're you're a twin right, But yeah.

690
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.440
You know, listeners, if you don't want to hear this,

691
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.239
here it comes again. Another Babylon five item. So apparently

692
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.000
Robert Foxfort, who plays Admiral Leeton Layton in this uh

693
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.679
he played a similar role in Babylon five as General

694
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.880
Haig in a two episode and he went to Deep

695
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.239
Space nine, which kind of pissed off J. Michael Sheizanski,

696
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.599
the creator of Battle On five, so he basically killed

697
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.199
off and wrote off his character in Babblin five Goodbye.

698
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:50.599
Yeah, that was right about the same time, wasn't And

699
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:51.960
I think ye.

700
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.760
But now this these this two part it was really

701
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.159
well done. Going back to Earth, a huge threat on Earth,

702
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.159
and the twist and stuff that we kind of get

703
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.119
in this two parter is really well done. But yes,

704
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:10.039
the chemistry between the family of the Ciscos was just phenomenal.

705
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.480
And what really amazes me and just shows you the

706
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.119
talent of some of these actors is the fact that

707
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.800
you can just bring on brock Peter. So obviously he's

708
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.239
been in Star Trek before. You know, he played Admiralcartt

709
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.840
Wright in But They Undiscovered Country in the Voyage Hall,

710
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.360
so I mean, he's no stranger to Star Trek. But

711
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.639
the fact that you can bring in an actor that

712
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.559
can just fit in and blend like he has been

713
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.280
there the entire time with two characters who are part

714
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.880
of the main cast and you don't miss a beat,

715
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.400
just shows you how good he is at acting and

716
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.960
being able to have that chemistry with other people because

717
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:42.880
they didn't miss a beat with that.

718
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.599
Yeah, this is a really good two parter. I think

719
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.400
it's the last of the two parters for the series.

720
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:54.280
Everything becomes a part after this. It's a great two parter.

721
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.079
It's great to see Earth again, you know, with with

722
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.280
Voyager out in the Delta quadrants and d space and

723
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.719
all the way over here or you know, we're not

724
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.000
going to get to Earth as much as we did

725
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.800
in the next generation, so you know, here we are.

726
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:09.440
Good episode, good way of exploring Cisco's background and his

727
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.840
family and everything. It's a funny episode.

728
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:12.000
You know.

729
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.679
This was originally supposed to be the third season finale,

730
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:19.880
fourth season opener, And the only fault I find with

731
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.760
this two parter is that it's kind of obvious they're

732
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.440
kind of they're lacking some money to make to do

733
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.119
what they want, because, like I said, this was planned

734
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.360
as a cliffhanger where they always save all the extra

735
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.039
money for they didn't have it for this being in

736
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:38.320
the middle of the season. But besides that, great performances,

737
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.400
especially from Avery Brooks and Brun Peters. I do want

738
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.199
to I do want to point out one little bit

739
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.679
of continuity that I liked. I didn't notice this the

740
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.519
first time around. But the Federation President mentions, he's, well,

741
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.920
let me quote him, with the exception of the Borg incident,

742
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.480
there hasn't been a state of emergency declared on Earth

743
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.559
in a century now. He's he's got to be referring

744
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.880
to one of two things, either Veiger's appearance at Earth

745
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.440
in Star Trek the motion picture, which happened almost exactly

746
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.760
one hundred years before this episode, or the whale probe

747
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.440
in Star Trek four, which was about what eighty six

748
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.880
years or so, because I was think about fifteen years

749
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:19.920
after that, So it's one of those two.

750
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:20.559
Take your pick.

751
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.079
But that's a nice little little continuity extra that they

752
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:24.800
added to it.

753
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.960
That was a good touch. I didn't catch that. So no, Yeah,

754
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:29.519
although I mean.

755
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.119
I'm glad that you mentioned the Borg incident because I

756
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.480
think that makes kind of a unique case for watching

757
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.480
DS Night or giving it a try, even if you

758
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:41.440
don't want to dive into the entire series and just

759
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.079
want to kind of take our selects. I would say

760
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.840
that this almost kind of proves that DS Night is

761
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.199
helping to tell kind of the story behind the scenes

762
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.639
of things like best of both worlds with Wolf three

763
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.559
five nine, Right, how does that impact all manner of

764
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.440
you know a lot of different people, whether it's citizens,

765
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:10.360
whether it's diplomats and you know, governing bodies and things

766
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.039
like that to other species. Right, This I think gives

767
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.960
kind of a wider look at that kind of a

768
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.559
threat and how it can have so much of an impact.

769
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.440
That's just an interesting kind of case for even though

770
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:26.119
it takes a lot of investment. There's a lot to

771
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.400
watch here, there's a lot to get through, but it's

772
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.199
it's one of the most in depth explorations I think

773
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.920
this franchise has ever done.

774
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:40.639
Yeah, I agree. And then another fun scene between Nog

775
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.559
and Benjamin. This one wasn't as serious as last season.

776
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.880
It was just this one's funny because he just got

777
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.440
that getting agitated by Nog. Yes, and you can just

778
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:51.480
see it's like, oh God, go and get away from me.

779
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.519
Yeah. But it's interesting that like now, like as you

780
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.920
mentioned that, there's a little bit of a they're not

781
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.519
quite peers, but you at least see that kind of

782
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:04.159
like mutual respect, and you can see that Noug is

783
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:09.760
doing well. He's definitely taking it seriously. He's not resting

784
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.039
on anything which I think would be good for Cisco

785
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:14.360
to see it.

786
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.159
Absolutely would, and I agree with you. All right, well,

787
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:18.119
let's move on, Wayne.

788
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:22.320
You have number eight, and that is Hard Time, written

789
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:26.440
by Daniel keyes Morin, Lynn Barker, and Robert Hewitt Wolfe

790
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:31.079
and directed by Alexander Singer. Chief O'Brien is falsely convicted

791
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:34.199
of espionage by an alien raise and subjected to a

792
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:39.760
simulated twenty year prison sentence implemented directly into his mind.

793
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.960
When it returns Steep Space nine, only a few hours

794
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.000
have passed in reality, but O'Brien is haunted by the

795
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:51.480
traumatic memories of decades of confinement. Struggling to reintegrate with

796
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.519
his family and crew, he becomes withdrawn, angry, and deeply

797
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.760
guilt ridden over the death of his imaginary cellmate. His

798
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.039
emotional turmoil him to the brink of suicide as he

799
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:07.559
feels unworthy of forgiveness and normal life. Now this originally

800
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.599
wasn't on my top ten choices. I didn't even remember

801
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.760
this episode that was even in the series. For some reason.

802
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.760
I don't remember watching this one at all, but watching

803
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.320
it again, and I did watch it twice before this podcast.

804
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.239
It's really grown on me. This is incredibly powerful, incredibly

805
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.519
emotionally intense episode, probably one of the most series of

806
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.039
produced up to this point. You know, Brian's he's forced

807
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:40.599
to have to deal with with trauma, guilt PTSD from

808
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.199
this imprisonment, and I have to really applaud the producers

809
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.199
for treating all of this in a very, very realistic way.

810
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.079
Cole Meani's such a great actor. I love him in

811
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.480
everything he's done, you know, not just chief O Brian.

812
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.599
He's done so much stuff over his career, but he's

813
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.440
really acting his chops off in this episode.

814
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:00.519
You know.

815
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.760
I think his scenes with the Keiko and Molly, and

816
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.280
you know how he's unable to act around them properly

817
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.800
because he's been in his mind, he's been so away

818
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:13.239
for so long. He just can't mentally adjust. Some of

819
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.360
the strongest scenes in the episode, in my opinion, and

820
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.840
the ending. I'm not going to give anything away because,

821
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.320
believe me, I want you all to watch this, but

822
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.360
it's not what you would expect from a nineteen nineties

823
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:25.920
Star Trek episode.

824
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:26.079
Not at all.

825
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.119
You know, there's a lot of spoilers, you know, and

826
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.480
I don't want to give away those, but you know,

827
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.239
unlike most of Star Trek are in fact, really most

828
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.159
of TV in this era, you know, everything tends to

829
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.639
get wrapped up in a nice tidy bow. Not here,

830
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:42.960
and I applaud them for doing it that way, because

831
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:47.360
it really would have diluted the impact the episode had

832
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.239
with a viewer if I had done that. Just an

833
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.320
absolutely fantastic episode. But I want to bring up a

834
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.400
little piece of trivia that I wanted if you to know,

835
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.719
this episode was when it was written, and I think

836
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.559
it was written during the first season. Originally wasn't going

837
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:09.679
to have O'Brien. This was originally supposed to feature insignt Sito,

838
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.320
you know, the Jordan cadet from the Next Generation that

839
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.280
was killed where they find her still alive from about

840
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.320
what was the lower decks. I believe it was where

841
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.199
they find her here still alive, which you know, I

842
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:21.480
think that that would have made a fantastic episode too,

843
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.280
if if it would have taken place earlier in the series.

844
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.679
But here, at this point, we needed an O'Brien episode,

845
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.360
and this just gave it to us big time. Snap

846
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:32.760
slapped us right in the face with it.

847
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.639
Yeah, no, it was. It was. There were some really

848
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.960
good performances in this episode between Alexander Fidegg and col Meani.

849
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.920
Some very good scenes between those two. I do want

850
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.239
to call out Craig Walton, who plays eg R. He

851
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:49.400
was Neil and Nightmare el Street part three of the

852
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:56.760
Dream Warriors. Yeah, yes, absolutely, but I mean the whole

853
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.440
thing when O'Brien just snaps and obviously you know what

854
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.920
happens a little bit later on, just is some very

855
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.360
very powerful Star Trek at its best and something you're

856
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.119
right wing, you don't typically see in Star Trek at all.

857
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:10.079
Of what happens.

858
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:15.000
Yeah, this is done very respectfully. When you mentioned things

859
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.239
like PTSD and related kind of you know, threats of

860
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:23.079
suicide and things like that. So just just know this

861
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.800
is a very deep and powerful episode. I would probably

862
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.880
consider a scrub episode after this, something to just relave

863
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.599
the tension, because this one, even afterwards, it stayed with

864
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.840
me for a while. It almost feels like kind of

865
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:46.039
a negative opposite of the inter Light from Next Generation.

866
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:48.480
Oh yeah, yeah, it is very similar in style.

867
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.920
And what's interesting is that Margo Rose is an actress

868
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.440
that plays a character named Rinn in this episode. She

869
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.920
was from the Interlight when she played the Card's wife

870
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.239
heads off to call Mini. Like you said, absolutely just

871
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:10.840
powerful performance. Uh to Where'slym child? Also is kick over, Brian.

872
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.480
They all do a great job in here. It's a

873
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.960
very mind bending episode, and it tells me that the

874
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.280
counselors on these ships, in these stations need a commentation

875
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.320
and a vacation. Yeah, they've got to have their work,

876
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.119
like you know, clear my calendar.

877
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:31.679
Right, No kidding. There's the reason why this episode is

878
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.079
called hard time, because I'm telling you it's every bit

879
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:35.360
of that meaning of that title.

880
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:37.679
Yeah, maybe kind of mix things up a little bit.

881
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.960
Maybe watch this and then Little Green Men there you go.

882
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.320
That would be yourself like an upper afterward.

883
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.760
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. All right. Well, let's

884
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.039
move on to episode nine for the Cause, written by

885
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.639
ronaldy Moore and Mark O'Connell, directed by James Conway. Equipment

886
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.119
from the Kardassians is set to arrive at Deep Space nine.

887
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.639
Fearing the Maquis might be up to something, Benjamin increased security.

888
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.840
He is surprised when Eddington and Odo approach him that

889
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.960
they suspect Cassidy Yates is smuggling against his deep feelings

890
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.679
for her. He is forced to put his crew on

891
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.400
her trail and discover exactly what she is up to.

892
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:15.920
All of this will lead to the discovery of a

893
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.880
major secret that will send shock waves across the station

894
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.679
and beyond. Elsewhere. Garrick has his eyes on Zile, who

895
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.920
just so happens to be the daughter of Ducat and

896
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:31.039
under the protection of Kira. So this episode caught me

897
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.960
by surprise of the things that happen in it towards

898
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:41.119
the end, it is it is when a certain thing happens,

899
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.679
You're like, why is he doing that? And then when

900
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.119
it does happen later on, you're like, oh, okay, wow,

901
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.079
it really catches you with your pants down. I guess

902
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:56.840
you could say, because it really does. I'm not I'm

903
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.559
not a big fan of a certain person in this

904
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.000
episode or this season. She's not a main cast member,

905
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.119
so you probably already know who I'm talking about. I

906
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.760
was kind of glad certain things happened, but as far

907
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.320
as I'm going to go with that first time at

908
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:17.000
the Majorian game, springball is shown interesting there, Garrick being

909
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.760
quite the player, I might add with you know what,

910
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.039
and one of the moments, one of the lines that

911
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.880
I absolutely just sends a chill for you and makes

912
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.880
you really sit and think. Is when a certain someone

913
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.760
says that he compares the Federation to the Borg that

914
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.400
was that Oh damn, damn. When you really think about that,

915
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.079
you're like, oh, I don't know how to side on

916
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.480
this one now, because that kind of makes sense, right.

917
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.440
And that's one of the most fascinating things about this series, right, Like,

918
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.079
you think about the Federation in certain ways, like it's

919
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.679
very utopian, can do no wrong, and all this other

920
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.199
kind of stuff, and then just moments where it just

921
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.800
calls it into question. Not that it's wrong, not that

922
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.039
it's bad, not that it's necessarily even in doubt, but

923
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.519
there's question m hm. And there are a lot of

924
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.159
questions that get raised throughout this series that I think

925
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.280
open the door for things like Pegard when we eventually

926
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.079
look at that and it's kind of like not everybody

927
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.440
is in John Luke's camp and there are some some

928
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:23.920
fallacies to kind of explore there.

929
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.400
Well, I'm glad you brought that up too, because you know,

930
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.239
this really goes back to the core of deep space

931
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.960
science creation. It wasn't supposed to be as clean cut

932
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.320
and clear as the next generation there was supposed to

933
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.519
be a lot of questioning, a lot of darkness and

934
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.800
grittiness and you know who is the good guy and

935
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:44.800
who's the bad guy?

936
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:45.880
In this episode.

937
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.719
Really really plays that up. You just don't know what

938
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.840
side you should side with. I mean really, it makes

939
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.199
you question everything that everyone is doing.

940
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.880
I mean, and look at the character Yeric. I mean

941
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.639
you think, oh, this is a good guy. I'm gonna

942
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.039
like him, and then he does He's like, oh never mind,

943
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.360
yeah right, yeah. So I mean it's you're right. I mean,

944
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.880
it's it keeps you on your toes, that's for sure. Yeah.

945
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:12.239
And it's and I see that's why they wanted to

946
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.199
do that. They didn't want it all knife and glossy

947
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.199
like the Next Generation was. I like the fact that

948
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.239
they went dark, and it's going to go darker. I mean,

949
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.119
we've got three more seasons. It's going to get rough.

950
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:26.039
So and I appreciate that. So Star Trek needed that.

951
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:27.159
In my opinion, it really did.

952
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.480
Yeah.

953
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.639
Yeah, and I was rather insistent because it almost did

954
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.280
make our top ten. But it's just this episode is

955
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.920
just too important, not just to do Space nine, but

956
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.320
much more. You know, it has lasting repercussions for Star

957
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.840
Trek Voyager as well. But it's really hard to discuss

958
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.000
this episode without giving out spoilers, and we don't want

959
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.519
Jeff's phaser to run out of power, right.

960
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.519
I'd say along those lines, you know, you have the

961
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.639
benefit with streaming of watching something more than once. Once

962
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.679
you see where certain things go. This does probably bear

963
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.320
worth you know, it probably is, at least in parts

964
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.679
worth watching a second time.

965
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.360
Yeah, agreed? All right, Well, let's move on to our

966
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:08.599
final episode, Scott.

967
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.159
Yeah, super light one at the end of this series.

968
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.119
Yeah.

969
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.039
Broken Link is written by George A. Brozak and Robert

970
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.360
Hewitt Wolf and directed by Les Landau. So big spoiler

971
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:25.239
warning for season three's ending. I think we're past that.

972
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:26.639
Right, Yeah, yep.

973
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:32.039
Knowing that Odo had a hand in basically killing a

974
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.639
changelingk which has never been done before, we see here

975
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:41.039
in the beginning there's kind of a lighthearted situation in

976
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:46.000
Garrick's shop where soon after Odo collapses with a sudden

977
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.559
and horrible affliction, he begins to rapidly lose his ability

978
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:53.119
to maintain his salid shape as he continues to seemingly

979
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.159
melt away. The Shears scans revealed that he may lose

980
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.880
all cohesion and die without serious intervention that comes with

981
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:03.639
a high price as he realizes that the only answer

982
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:07.239
can be found where he also faces harsh judgment for

983
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.599
his recent crimes on the homeworld of the Change looks Wow.

984
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:18.519
A lot of powerful performance in this episode, particularly by

985
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:24.679
Renee as Odo. He consistently impresses me. I've been a

986
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.000
fan of that actor since Benson to David, Oh yeah, yeah,

987
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.880
something interesting that I noticed here, and he does it

988
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.639
to great effect. It's never distracting, but I only really

989
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:39.280
noticed it in this episode how effectively Renee uses blinking

990
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:47.000
to convey emotion and like distress, and you know sometimes

991
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.400
when he's kind of struggling with knowing what to do,

992
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.400
a lot of emotional depth you get from him. Probably

993
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.000
not spoiling things by saying we see a certain shape

994
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.880
shifter again in this episode, who I've mentioned before as

995
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:09.800
being very important and also amazing performances. Dave, you and

996
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.679
I had the benefit of talking with Brad recently about

997
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.840
one flu over the Cuckoo's Nest, and we were talking

998
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:22.639
about Louis Fletcher as Nurse Ratchet. Say that way again,

999
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:29.440
that kind of acting where they are so stoic and

1000
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:35.599
so seemingly wooden, but there's so much kind of impressive

1001
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.960
depth in that kind of delivery that it just makes

1002
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.239
that person. I don't know, it's very very hard to

1003
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.599
separate that person from the character they portray, but they

1004
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:47.599
do it to great effect.

1005
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:48.880
Yeah.

1006
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.039
Yeah, like last season, you know, here we're given a

1007
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:56.559
very self contained, psychological season finale. It's not like the

1008
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.639
action acts episodes we used to get with the Next Generation.

1009
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.760
But you know, this is really really important episode, very

1010
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:07.800
pivotal episode, kind of sets a stage to the next

1011
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.880
three seasons that's coming up, the you know, the war,

1012
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.320
but more importantly, it's it's a turning point for Odo.

1013
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.280
You know, he's he's torn between his duty to the Federation,

1014
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.039
his loyalty to d Space nine, his bond to the Founders.

1015
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.000
You know, what does he do and and and the

1016
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.519
fact that the Founders have have deemed him a trader

1017
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.840
and they intend to punish him. That's a huge blow

1018
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:33.880
to Odo. You know we talked about last season. Odo

1019
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.840
wants nothing more than to return home to the Great Link,

1020
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:41.599
but here he's he's forced even further away from his dreams.

1021
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.039
You know, it's there, there's a there's a lot of

1022
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.719
talk in this episode, but it's so well written and

1023
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:52.440
so beautifully performed that by the cast, it's it's really

1024
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.400
a worthwhile episode to include this to this list.

1025
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:56.079
In my opinion.

1026
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.320
I I just watch this episode again for like the

1027
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.880
fourth time two hours ago, and it's it's incredibly powerful.

1028
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.880
Love love the episode, and you know it may not

1029
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:07.840
end with it could to be continued, but it is

1030
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.000
a cliffhanger at the end leading us into season five.

1031
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.719
And you're right, the randomifications that are coming for the

1032
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:19.159
next three seasons is just going to be insane. For everything,

1033
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.400
for the Federation, for Deep Space nine, for Bajoran, all

1034
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.039
of it is going to get crazy. So buckle up, people,

1035
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.559
the next three seasons that are going to be crazy,

1036
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.159
and it's gonna be tough to pick us some episodes,

1037
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.440
ten episodes in some of these seasons because so much

1038
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.039
is happening. We're really gonna have to buckle down. But

1039
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.039
there's one moment in this that I found hysterical, even

1040
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.800
though this is a very powerful episode. So when Kira

1041
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.400
brings the criminal activity report to Odo just to brighten

1042
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:47.920
him up.

1043
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:53.519
Oh yeah, yeah, it's excited.

1044
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:57.920
Let me see. I love that moment so much. But

1045
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.199
the other moment that it's not funny that I just

1046
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.000
thought was extremely powerful. With Odo's walk through the promenade. Yeah,

1047
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.079
oh that was just rough, but you could tell he

1048
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:08.960
wanted to do that.

1049
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.119
Yeah, you know, that's that's all Rene.

1050
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:12.800
Yep.

1051
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.480
Like I know, there's you know, writing and directing that

1052
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.239
leads it that way, but you can see how much

1053
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:20.000
he is so invested in this character.

1054
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:21.000
Yep.

1055
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.920
And I love Garrick's job on the Defiant. I thought

1056
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:27.519
that was absolutely because you could see Odo is just

1057
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.360
completely enthralled with everything he's saying, you know, learning all

1058
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.199
this stuff, and that's exactly what he wanted to keep

1059
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:34.719
them busy, to keep him, you know, his mind off

1060
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:36.880
of it. I just love those scenes because you know,

1061
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.840
it's it's it's kind of hilarious the way Odo is

1062
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:41.719
just you know, fixed and listening to every word he

1063
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:43.639
say and not realizing that you know, he's just doing

1064
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.039
that to keep his mind off of what's really going on.

1065
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.079
Yeah, and earlier we mentioned you know you really can't

1066
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:52.480
trust Garrek, and you saw what happens in this episode.

1067
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.199
Yeah, right, right, and again that's powerful. That was powerful

1068
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.000
when when he learns, you know, the answer to his quest.

1069
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.960
And I'm not going to say why. His face yep,

1070
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:04.559
you know, he tries to hide it in front of

1071
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.440
the Founder, but his face after when she turns away,

1072
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:08.119
whoa wow.

1073
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:08.440
Yep.

1074
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:14.599
Yeah. Well, and the what he tries to do again

1075
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.039
just makes you think in different ways. You know. Obviously

1076
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.159
there's a pretty clear idea of you know, right and

1077
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.719
wrong there, but you can see the motivations of both.

1078
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.480
Yeah you can, Yeah, no doubt. All right, listeners, Well

1079
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.760
that was our top ten. So now we are going

1080
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.800
to dig in and have a little bit more fun.

1081
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.920
As we always do with these, we are going to

1082
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:40.239
discuss our favorite scene moment with a certain character this

1083
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:44.679
season is obviously Bushier Wayne. I'm gonna start with you.

1084
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.079
Well, Bashir had a lot of good moments this season,

1085
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.320
but one particular I want to point out, and it's

1086
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.480
not an episode we chose for our top ten, but

1087
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.039
I'm still gonna choose anyways, and it's from the Quickening.

1088
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.039
You know, Doctor Bashir has to try to deal with

1089
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.719
the effects of a flag that the Jemadar have unleashed

1090
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:05.840
on a planet because the planet it has been a

1091
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:10.840
resisting dominion control He's determined to help the suffering people

1092
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:12.719
because and he's certainly he can find a cure, but

1093
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:16.920
he learns that not every disease is curable, and kind

1094
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.440
of his arrogance gets the better of him. And then

1095
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.159
when he witnesses the death of a young village woman

1096
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.199
who believed him believed that he was going to cure them,

1097
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.960
it really changes him mentally and emotionally. He breaks, you know,

1098
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.320
he's forced to confront his limitations and come to terms

1099
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.360
of the fact that sometimes as a doctor you don't

1100
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.400
always succeed and people die even though you really tried

1101
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:44.440
your best. One of my favorite bits of dialogue comes

1102
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:46.679
near the end of the episode, when Basher begins to

1103
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:49.360
realize that he can't save them. He says, there is

1104
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:51.800
no cure. The dominion made sure of that, but I

1105
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.360
was so arrogant. I thought I could find one in

1106
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.840
a week. And then Jasia tells him, maybe it was

1107
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.639
arrogant to think that it's even we're airing it, to

1108
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:03.360
think that there isn't a cure just because you couldn't

1109
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:07.440
find it. It's it's really a turning point for the character.

1110
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:07.920
Of doctor Bashir.

1111
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.360
It's where he stops being that that brash and non

1112
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.360
likable woman chaser, you know, the fresh young lieutenant that

1113
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:17.199
we saw back in the pilot, and he becomes more seasoned,

1114
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.559
more compassioned human doctor that continues throughout the rest of

1115
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.480
the season. It's just a great we didn't choose it,

1116
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.679
but it's a great but sheer episode. If you want

1117
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.400
to watch a love in episodes, watch this one.

1118
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:30.559
Scott, what about you.

1119
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:36.360
I was kind of torn between hippocratic Oath and Iraman Bashir,

1120
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.480
and I think I'm gonna surprise that I'm leading into

1121
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:43.280
Araman Bashir because of what Wayne was just mentioning. Hell,

1122
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.679
for a while, he was just this, you know, desperate

1123
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.840
guy that always seemed to be chasing after women and

1124
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:54.599
always in the wrong ways. So it's interesting to see

1125
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.679
him in that kind of misogynistic James Bond kind of

1126
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:04.800
hollows program, right, And yeah, almost as soon as he's

1127
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.119
into it, he has to turn that off and play

1128
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.840
himself instead of the character that he's trying to immerse

1129
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.440
himself in in the Hollow Suite. He doesn't seem to

1130
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:21.800
take it too seriously, but it's just an interesting turn when,

1131
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.239
like you said, we get this Bashir who isn't quite

1132
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.440
that character who's kind of evolved, and we almost get

1133
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.639
kind of a look at you know, kind of a

1134
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.360
hyper fictionalization of that kind of thing where he's always

1135
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:35.159
chasing women, but here he kind of puts it to bed.

1136
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.880
I think, yeah, absolutely, Dave, what about you? Well, for me,

1137
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.840
I'm going to go back to the hard Time episode

1138
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.840
where his explanation to a Brian about them destroying a

1139
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.760
good man and he can't let that, let them do

1140
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.519
that to him. He gets such an incredible speech there

1141
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:53.320
for a dear friend he cares about and it just

1142
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.360
proves that he goes beyond being a doctor. He cares

1143
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.360
deeply about someone. And it shows you. I mean, we

1144
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.519
see it there, you know, even your guys, the explanation

1145
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.440
of the moment you've Pope picked. It shows how much

1146
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.360
he cares about people. And he's he's grown, he's developed,

1147
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.159
and his story arc is getting better with that. He's

1148
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.360
not that brass guy anymore. Like you mentioned, Wayne, he's

1149
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.920
not that women chaser anymore. He sees the people around

1150
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.320
him and what they mean to him and how much

1151
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.280
he cares about them. Even Garrick for crying out loud.

1152
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:23.960
You know, we know Garrick and he knows Gerrick, but

1153
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:26.440
he still cares about him and wants to make sure

1154
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:28.840
everything's okay with him. But the fact that what he

1155
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.519
goes through here in hard times and even before that,

1156
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.519
remember the episode him and O'Brian got into a fight,

1157
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.639
you know about what he was doing. So the fact

1158
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.880
that he still comes to a brian's side and cares

1159
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:42.880
about him and wants to make sure that he's mentally okay.

1160
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.239
And you know there what happens towards the end of

1161
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.800
the episode, you know, it was really important that this

1162
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:53.280
year was there for his friend, and I just think

1163
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.679
that was very, very important and just a great part

1164
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:56.199
for sure.

1165
01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:59.960
Yeah, it just proves from all three of our chway.

1166
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.639
So it's a lot of character growth for the for doctor.

1167
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:07.519
Bashir, yep. Absolutely, all right, here comes the fun when

1168
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:12.159
worst episode of the season, Scott, I'll let you go first.

1169
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:19.199
That's sides kind of tough to pick, but this is

1170
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.360
one that I think is half bad, and I'll say

1171
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:28.039
it's the Muse. I say half bad because the the

1172
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:35.599
Jake and Onaya dynamic and the resolution of that it

1173
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:40.159
didn't quite hit with me, seemed kind of odd. The

1174
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:43.239
other half of it that has a dynamic between the

1175
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:47.199
Walks on a Troy and Odo, I think was a

1176
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.320
lot more interesting and powerful, especially when I consider this

1177
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.519
as major Barrett's last appearance I believe is the Walks

1178
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.559
on a Troy. We also get another treat because we

1179
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hear the voice of mister Freeze with Michael and Sara

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as Jail, but I think it's probably one worth skipping

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if you have to choose, I think if you're a

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completionist that wants to follow Lavauxana Troy and Odo's ark,

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I think there are some great moments between the two

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of them, but the majority of it, with the the

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Jake story just didn't hit with me. Wayne, What about you?

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Well, I didn't have any difficulty at all choosing which

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one I didn't like, because there was one episode that

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made me very, very mad, and it was The Muse

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and it's it's gotten none to do with the cast.

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They do a fantastic job, so I really the blame

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falls solely on the writing, maybe the producers for letting

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that episode even be made, you know, I just that remains.

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Well.

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The main story with Jake and being seduced by by

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what is it o'neara. It's just creepy and icky in

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my just a teenager, and she's she's clearly predatory, you know,

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feeding on the creative energies, you know, from what he's writing.

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I've never been a fan of that type of story,

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sci fi story that that emotional vampires feeding on another

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person's feelings of love or anger or in this case, creativity.

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But because it's been done so many times and practically

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every sci fi TV series that was made all the

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way back in the sixties, they did this back in

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the original series. It's the fourth season now, and we

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should have left all this type of storytelling back, you know,

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during the first two seasons. And then you got that

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BT storyline with Lawauxana Troy, you know what you do

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in seeking Odo's help because her husband wants to take

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their onborn child. I don't know. It's one thing when

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Lawaxana is chasing around men like you know, a card

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or Odo. You know, that's that's funny, but the idea

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that she's remarried and pregnant just kind of makes her

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a bit trashy the best way to put it, you know,

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and and to make matters worse, like you said, this

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is this is the last time we see the character

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Wauk Sanda Troy. What a terrible way to end such

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a long running and fun character. I'd rather just, you know,

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scrub this episode completely from my memory.

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Scrub away. So I am going to not give the trifecta.

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I actually went with a different episode. I went with

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episode five Rejoined. Dax Is reunited with one of her

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01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:28.639
former hosts mates, Leonara Khan, and the two struggle with

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their feelings for one another. Ugh on Trill, it is

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01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:35.880
obviously strictly forbidden to reassociate with a past lover. The

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01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:40.400
punishment is exile, meaning the simet will die. You know,

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01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.039
I feel like I'm always picking on romance or love

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episodes or something like that. But I'm telling you, Star

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Trek can do it right, but my god, can they

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01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:50.960
do it wrong?

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Yes?

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Yes, And this one was absolutely horrendous in my opinion,

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and I just I never want to see it again.

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When I will use the scrub word with you and

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I will scrub this one from my mind because I

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don't want to ever want to revisit this one. I

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will not rejoin with Rejoined, Okay, because no, thank you

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for moving on.

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That was my second choice.

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So what are you saying here?

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Don't rejoin it? Don't don't All right, what do you think, listeners?

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01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:35.079
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01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:39.199
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01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:46.679
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01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:51.239
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01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.880
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of fact, we talked to Brooke Bundy, who is from

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the Next Generation, so very interesting. Wayne got the interview

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01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.079
her as well. Yeah, so go check it out. Wayne Scott,

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thank you so much. As always, it's always nice to

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have you join me on these Phaser sets. On episodes.

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Yep, Black Wise, it's fun.

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