Oct. 1, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season One

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season One
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Season 6Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

Our popular "Starter Treks" mini-series is back with a look at Deep Space Nine! Our crew is leaving the bridge and settling in at the Promenade to share the ten episodes you need to see from season one, if you aren't ready to watch all 26 episodes!

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The curated list discussed in today's episode contains the following Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season one episodes:
Emissary
Captive Pursuit
Dax
The Nagus
Vortex
Battle Lines
Progress
The Forsaken
Duet
In the Hands of Prophets

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phaser Set the Stun,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek in this ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, and more. Plotting

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the course, as always is your core track crew.

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I'm Dave Burns, and I'm Scott Hofton and I'm Wayne Whiten.

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Well, gentlemen. In this episode, we're going to continue our

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discussion on what we like to call Starter Trek, a

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curated episode list for first time viewers. Just as we

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did with Star Trek the Next Generation, we are now

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going to do it with Deep Space nine. This spoiler

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free list focuses on what we think are the top

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ten episodes from each season, and of course we're going

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to start with season one. Deep Space nine. The series

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would run from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety nine.

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It would have one hundred and seventy six episodes and

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run seven seasons, and would be the first time in

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Star Trek history that we would have two series running

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at the same time, although briefly, but it still counts

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a Star Trek Next Generation would end in May of

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nineteen ninety four. This all really came about when the

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creators Berman appelar Pillar wanted to explore new characters and

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new stories, but they wanted to change the formula by

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going away from a spaceship and utilize a space station,

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going for that Western space vibe. In creating Deep Space nine,

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Billa and Pilmer drew upon elements introducing that we're introduced

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in the next generation, namely the conflict between two species,

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and of course that is the Cardassians and the Majoritans. Gentlemen,

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I think this was a bold move to go to

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a space station and not a ship.

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You agree, absolutely, yeah. I mean everything's happening in one place,

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which gives you a lot of consistency. But you know,

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I know that there's some who had a hard time

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with the kind of lack of exploration. That being said,

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you're at the very tip of the gab of quadrant

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parked right outside a wormhole. So I mean, there's not

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much more new you can get than that.

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Well, you know, one thing that really makes this series

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different from like Star Trek the Next Generation is the

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fact that you know, they are on a space station.

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It's a stationary you know, they're orbiting the same planet

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in the same part of space, you know, each week,

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which means that they're the consequences that evolve from each

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one of the storylines stays with them from week to week.

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You know, they can't just warp away to another planet

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leaving all our problems behind. They have to continue on,

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they have to deal with them. You know. This means

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that we saw a lot more development in the continuing storylines.

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You know, we got to dive deep more into the

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Federation and how it works rather than you know, just

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starfleet and the things that happen on a regular starship.

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And you know, we get to spend seven years learning

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about a single planet, you know, major and it's politics,

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it's it's conflicts, religion, you know, far more than any

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other planet than Star Trek. In any of Star Trek,

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you know, we learn more about Beijor in Star Trek

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than we ever did about Vulcan or even Earth, and

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I think that's what made this show unique and successful.

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Absolutely in the Cardassians as well, right, Yes, we learned

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so much more about the Kardassians, the Ferengi, places where

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we never thought we'd get the time and the depth

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to kind of explore it. And I know that Wayne,

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you and I talked about the de Space nine documentary here. Gosh,

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I don't remember how long ago that was, but yeah,

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I mean ever since then, I've been dying to crack

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this back up.

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And yes, me too.

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So what do you guys think about the uniform change?

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I liked it. I mean it's not much different. It

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seems like a progression or not really you know, a

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step up, but just to step sideways from the other

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next generation uniforms like they should be there.

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It needed be for the Space station. You know, I

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think it worked. But to go back on what you

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were saying too, Wayne, it gave us an opportunity not

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to take anything from the next generation, but if made

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the main storylines, it seems to be more in depth

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the later seasons we get because you're right, we get

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to know the people of that planets so much more,

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how it works, the ins and the outs that you

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can't get away from it, and it really becomes ingrained

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into the show, which really makes you emotionally attached to it.

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And I think that was a brilliant.

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Move, and it's away from the episode of the week,

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you know, the problem of the week, and kind of

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went into, especially in their later seasons, more of a

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serialized nature, which I think a lot of that has

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to do with another TV series that was on the

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air at the time, Babylon Five. But we'll get into

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that on later seasons. But in my opinion, that actually

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was an improvement. If you look at the first season

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and the second season compared to the other five seasons,

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it is a very a major step up in the

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way Star Trek.

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Is told by.

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Far they go from Chap three to Chap.

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Twelve, they do, and I mean you can really tell

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it too, because I mean some of the stuff in

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the first season and any season when any series when

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it first starts, has its little struggles. This one seemed

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to start off on a better foot than the next

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generation did, but it still had some growing pains.

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Right it did, Yes, definitely, especially in the characterizations. Some

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of the characters are rather abrasive and unlikable during the

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first season. Fortunately grow out of that.

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Now, I will say, and I'm gonna remind the listeners

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who listened to us during the Next Generation starter Trek

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I said that I was not a fan of the

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Fringi and I wasn't then. I felt like they were obnoxious,

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they were silly, and it was a villain I just

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did not like, or a species I did not like.

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I will say though, and I believe we mentioned it

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then Army. It's Armine who plays Qurk. Cork is amazing.

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I love his character so much. And when I started

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watching this again to get prepped for this podcast, because

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it's been a long time since I've seen Deep Space

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not probably the first air, to be honest with you,

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to see him again, I started chuckling because he's so

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good in that role, especially his relationship with Odo' It's

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it's incredible.

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They still are obnoxious and silly, but.

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Yes, absolutely, But I mean, Cork is such a good

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character and I'm so glad that we got him on

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d Space nine, and I don't think it would be

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the same if we didn't have the same actor playing

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Quirk because he's so good in that role. And I know,

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just like everybody else in this cast, they're going to

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grow into those characters and they're just gonna get better

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and better. And I can't wait for some of the

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episodes we're going to talk about in later seasons. But

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it's just it was good to see him again and

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watch his antics, because it was absolutely hysterical his How

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many acquisitions are there out there?

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Rules of acquisitions?

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Yeah, the rules of acquition? How many?

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There's a ton and I'm keeping track of him.

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It would be interesting if they actually ever decided to

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set a cap or if they made a rule way

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back then to say there is no cap on rules

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of acquisition? Should new ones coming?

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Oh, there's there's one, hundreds and hundreds of them. I

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know that, Dave.

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I completely agree, and I would just say, you know,

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fresh listeners, because I know there are going to be

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some m Yes, the FRANGI are greedy and obnoxious as

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kind of a blanket statement, like it's written to appear

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that way. If you've been with us since the next generation,

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you remember from the days when they had the electric whips,

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you probably know what I'm talking about they're not wearing

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the fur vests anymore. So that's a that's a plus sign.

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I would definitely agree with Quark, but I would plus

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that up and say watch Rum and Nog. Yeah, their

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progression through this Aaron Eisenberg, Max Grodincik. They start at

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a certain place and they're going to surprise you, so

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just wait for it.

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I'm glad you brought them up too, because this show,

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out of more than any of the other Star Trek,

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has such a fantastic secondary cast. Yeah, very lots and

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lots of them, you know, from all the different races,

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and it really benefited from that. And those two we

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were two of the characters that probably benefited the most.

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They had the biggest growth throughout the seven years.

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Sure. Yeah.

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And one thing going for the kid character of Jake,

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I don't hate him as much as handed West.

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Sarrock often does a great job as Jake. And again

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there's a character like watch watch the progression. Yeah, definitely

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worth staying.

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And I'm glad you brought that up because I was

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going to mention that later. You know why you don't

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hate him as much as Wesley, Why because he only

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appears in nine of the twenty episodes this season. True,

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they knew not to overdo him like they did with

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Wesley and shove him down your throat.

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He's just a good relationship with his dad, though, I

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really do. I like the relationship. Yeah so, they definitely

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nailed that in season one. He may be only nine episodes,

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but they did nail that. They did, Yeah so, And

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their chemistry together is fantastic, It really is.

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And you get a lot of richness in that relationship

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from the jump, from the first episode from the Emissary.

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Absolutely. All right, listeners, Well let's go let's take our

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first break, and when we come back, we will start

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talking about our ten episodes. Welcome back, listeners to Phaser

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Set the Stuff one, where we are continuing our discussion

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of our favorite ten episodes of season one of Star

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Trek Deep Space nine. So let's go ahead and get started, gentlemen,

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Let's start with number one.

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Wayne be my guest, and number one, of course, is

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the pilot Emissary, written by Rick Berman and Michael Pillar

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and directed by David Carson. Commander Benjamin Cisco reluctantly takes

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command of the newly transferred Cardassian built station Deep Space nine,

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orbiting the war torn planet Beijor, still grieving over the

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loss of his wife. At Wolf three five nine, Cisco

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struggles with his assignment and with his role as Bejor's

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fragile post occupation recovery. When the crew discovered a nearby

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stable wormhole, home to the mysterious non corporeal beings, the

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Fine promises to make Beijor a hub of galactic importance.

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Cisco must communicate with these beings who exist outside of

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linear time and confront his own unresolved pain as they

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challenged the understanding of existence. I'm actually going to go

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ahead and I'm going to say that this is my

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favorite of all the Star Trek pilots that were made

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of all the series. This just a fantastically well put

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together pilot that set the stage for everything to come afterwards.

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I will have to agree with that statement, Wayne, to

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be honest with you. First off, how they started this

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at Wolf three five to nine was just mind blowing.

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And to see a different angle of that fight just

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something you didn't see coming. I remember when I first

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saw that on T you, I say, holy crap, we're

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going back to that and that one shot of when

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the shutter takes off with fifth going them on it

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before the ship blows up. That was just a cool shot.

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It really was.

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Yeah, And I mean, first of all, great overview in description, Wayne,

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and I'll definitely I'll throw a third hat in the

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ring and agree there is such rich development and such

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fertile ground to cover established in this from the jump,

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Like we see the Battle of Wolf three five nine

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echoed throughout other series. It comes up often and it

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deserves to because it was such a big impactful moment.

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So seeing that from other perspectives is a stroga genius.

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But to see that from the family perspective is even

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more heartbreaking, knowing that Cisco has to leave his wife,

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knowing that she's gone but he needs to be there

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for his son and leaving and that kind of resentment

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so fresh on the so fresh on the minds of

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people who watch the Next Generation, and having it be

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something where it's not like we're not pals. There's camaraderie

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to be sure, there's mutual respect and whatnot. We've got

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Chief O'Brien that joins us on the crew, so there's

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kind of some continuity there, but there's no real love

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between COMMANDI of Cisco and Captain Picard, which sets this

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up as a very interesting thing because at that moment

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with the next generation, it's like, how could you, how

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could you be any better than Picard as a character,

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and this knocks him down a little bit.

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I think this episode was nominated for four Any Awards too.

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What a way to start? What a way to start

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a series?

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I mean, okay, and it won one too, It won

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the Best Theme for Dennis McCarthy's Really, I just wanted

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to say that it's Patrick Stewart's appearance in this episode

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was I mean, it's not only fantastic, He's always fantastic

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and everything was, but it was necessary.

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I remember way back when this show was first announced,

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you know, we were all excited, but a little skeptical

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because it just didn't sound like the Star Trek that

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we knew it didn't, you know, the whole thing about

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not being on a spaceship and stuff. We weren't sure

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about it, and having him step in him specifically being

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on the episode, especially as much as he is in it,

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I mean, he's a rather important character in this This

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episode that is was brilliant and was really neat to

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leave a lot of the fears that we had back then.

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Also, it also does a great job of just kind

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of setting you up with the station. You know, if

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you think about stories coming from problems to solve, it

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sets it up as the entire place being a problem

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to solve. There's holes in things, there are things that

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have been stolen, it's been ransecked, nothing works right, So

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you know that this series, at least in early days,

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is going to be about, you know, struggles with that

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kind of adoptive home that they have this of the station.

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my favorite scene obviously is when O'Brien saying goodbye to

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the Enterprise and the card comes in, you know, and

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you know basically you thought you're going to get away

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from me without saying good bye, you know that kind

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of thing, you know. I love that scene between the

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two of them. I thought that was really cool.

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Although it's interesting watching it after lower Decks and all

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the things. Yeah, I found my wondering what shift are

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they on because nobody is on that bridge. It's like

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a ghost down guards in his ready room. So I

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don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

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Well they were. They were docked at the station, so

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a lot of people. I guess they really didn't need anyone,

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although I would think there are easily one person centre

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in case something happened, you don't attack or whatever. You

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know they are they are on the edge of Federation space.

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Yeah, yeah, So not to get on a tangent here

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because I know we've got nine more episodes to talk

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about and her listeners are like, well, what's the next one?

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What do you guys think about? The reason why the

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creators put this on beajorg was because of instant Row,

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and because instant Row was going to be Kira, but

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a shelf Forbes decided she did not want to sign

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on to a six year contract at the time, so

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she backed out of it, and that's how we got

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the character of Kira. What do you guys think about that?

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I think it's a smart decision because you don't have

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to invest in Roe's character from next Generation, and you

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get more than one perspective from Bajorans. You get someone

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who is from the Bajoran military who used to be

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part of kind of you know, rebel forces for that

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of a better term. So I think it was a

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good idea to broaden things out, and I'm glad that

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we have Anna visitor as Kieran Reese.

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Whyn't your Jeffs happy because he's not an instant Row fan?

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Do you think I actually agree? You know, they really

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desired to bring a character over from the next generation,

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and if it if they had brought Michelle Forbes over,

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we wouldn't have got called Meeni, we wouldn't got to O'Brien.

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And I think of the two characters, I think it

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was better to have O'Brien and explore him than Roe

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because Roe had already pretty much had done the majority

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of exploration that we also already could give with that character.

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You would have just continued on now, you know, by

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adding a new character and giving her, you know, a

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different background and different stories and stuff, that it was

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much more beneficial to the whole series.

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Absolutely, and I believe that even said that they felt

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O'Brien's character is being wasted on just the Transporter room

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because he's his character was so good and Colemini he's

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a really good actor. That's why they decided to bring

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him over to the Space nine so they could explore

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his character in more depth.

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Yeah, yeah, and that's true. That's true.

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Well, a three for one, but definitely a two for

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one in terms of the the I guess that I

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don't want to set the adult actors because that sounds

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like a different genre. But you know, we get O'Brien

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and we get Keiko, and I think their relationship is

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also very interesting because you know, so much of this

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is family, whether it's you know, a found family kind

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of a dynamic of you know, the friends and the colleagues,

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or it's Jake and his father relationships here. So it

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was it was a great choice.

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Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree.

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All right, Well, let's move on to the second episode.

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Scott Our second episode is Captive Pursuit. It's written by

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Jill Sherman Donner and directed by Corey Allen. The first

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Gamma Quadrant resident to come through the wormhole is a

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mystery who calls himself Tusk. His nervous disposition draws suspicion

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throughout the station, except for Chief O'Brien, who has the

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official duty of making f first contact through engineering repairs.

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As Tusk and O'Brien become friends, another ship emerges from

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the wormhole in pursuit of Tusk the hunted. Now the

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station is caught in a dilemma saved Tusk from the

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hunt or honor their culture and the prime directive.

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There's so many episodes I love, but this is the

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one that really stands out to me just because of

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the character of Tsk. Yeah, and the relationship with O'Brien here.

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And I know I can't see some of the Indian

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stuff because what happens, but I just the way this

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ends is very touching, and I just I love it

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so much. And I believe Cole Meeni says this is

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his favorite episode from season one, which makes sense because

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I spend it a lot for growing out loud. Yeah. Yeah,

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but no, it's such a cool episode. It really is.

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Yeah, I'm glad we agreed on this one. I guess

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Michael Westmore in the Makeup Department won an Emmy for

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this episode deservedly so, which when you talk about awards,

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your pretty early days and you're racking up a lot

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of them. But his character design was amazing. I think

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it's made even more so by the performance of Scott

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McDonald as task I think his expressions through the makeup

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are very telegraphic of what he's going through in the struggles.

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It made me think of the Predator franchise from kind

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of another perspective here. I also noticed that when we

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meet the Hunter played by Garrett Graham, who was technician

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Nestler in nineteen eighty six's chopping ball.

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That's right, that's good.

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He also played another another Q on Voyager two. Forget

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that he's right later.

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Yeah, no, but I think it's great performances in this one.

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So what I love it. I'm gonna go back to

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Cork because I love his being offend to be called

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a barkeeper or a barkeeper at the ben did he

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was by that?

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Yeah?

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But I got a question for you guys. So Odo

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was just hanging out on the wall of the pictures,

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just hanging out. You know, he just does that.

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Well, I got the impression he does that a lot. Yeah,

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he just you know, turns into something, hangs around and listens. Yeah.

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Wow, okay O do yeah right? Pretty pretty boriastic there, Odo,

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What are you into?

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Buddy?

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But no, uh, very good episode, it was.

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Yeah. This this was one of my top choices too

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for the first season. I remember the ants anticipation for

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this this episode was huge because you know, we all

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wanted to see what was on the other side of

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the wormhole, and this is our first opportunity to see

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anybody from it. I just remember loving this episode when

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it first aired.

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Well, we'll move on to episode three, called Dax, written

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by Rick Berman and Michael Pillar, directed by David Carson.

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A group of aliens under the leader of Elon Tandro

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from Clastron four follow and take Dak hostage. Despite an

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attempt I be shere to save her. Commander Cisco manages

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to stop them, but only to find out that Tandra

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has a warrant for Dax, whose former self is accused

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of treason and murdering Tandro's father, who was a famous

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general from thirty years ago. Cisco works furiously to try

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and figure out how to save her, but does she

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want to be saved? You know? This is another one

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Star Trek does so many good episodes when it comes

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to courtroom drama, do they not? Oh yeah, And this

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is another one of those episodes. It's not the whole episode.

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It's court room drama, but there's a little bit in there.

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You know. It's not a true courtroom as it's stated

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several times, but it still felt like it and it's

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done so well when they present you know, should she

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be responsible for you know, the the other being that's

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in her even though she's a different person. That was

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you know, quite the conundrum that we were in right there,

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and it brought up a lot of questions for them.

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Yeah, and that's the question, is she a different person?

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Yeah?

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I mean, the Trill are supposed to be you know,

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the Trills are symbian, so they it's emerged mind, so

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if you know, if anything, she's half So that that

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was the question. It was a great question to bring

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up this early in the series and.

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One that doesn't necessarily get answered, you know, without spoiling it.

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There's you know, exploration of this topic. But I'd say

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it's something that kind of leads to debate. Right, So

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it is if a Trill commits a crime, that essentially

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condemns all the past lives as well, because if they

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sentence a Trill to death, all that experience is lost.

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But by the same token, does that mean if a

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crime is committed, that Trill should spend life in prison,

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knowing that life would mean continuing to be passed from

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host to host, So you're condemning future hosts Yeah, to

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serve that out and Helen does that last. I think

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it was. It was a brilliant courtroom episode, very interesting,

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very thought provoking, a lot of great performances, specifically by

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Terry Ferrell Lieutenant jed zi Attacks aside from the fact

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that I still have a crush on Terry Ferrell, absolutely gorgeous,

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but her performance here, like she's she essentially feels like

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the Obi Wan Kenobi of this franchise, at least in

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the beginning, because she brings all that kind of wisdom

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and that ry wit and things like that. But her

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choice in this one to have that almost like a

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steady stare that she kind of locks into, almost like

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she doesn't want to make eye contacts, she doesn't want

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to look at anybody, brings out both the you know,

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the the waiting, the burden that occurs on still feels,

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the conflict that jen Zia feels, and trying to process

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this as they're going through a trial that might condemn

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them to death. It was a fascinating episode and I

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think it's just great performances all around, and a very

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interesting look into not only trill culture, but to get

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a look at what we're gonna see from Daks in

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future episodes.

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And it's the first time that our klingon coffee is mentioned.

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Racka Gino and plus I want to I want to

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point out something for all our new viewers to look

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for somewhere in this episode that the one of the

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prop masters included the fertility idol from Raiders of the

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Lost Art look for it.

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Yeah, I was about ready to say that, thanks for

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stealing my thunder.

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I'm sorry.

467
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It's okay. So the the other thing that I found

468
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:31.319
very humorous about this episode I want to point out

469
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:36.319
is Anne Haney, who plays Banora. I always remember her

470
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.599
from the episode of Golden Girls where she played Bonnie

471
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:44.079
in the episode called Operation Funny Enough. Robert Ricardo was

472
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.680
also in that episode as the doctor.

473
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.359
That's right, I forgot about that.

474
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.680
To me, She'll always be the job placement person in

475
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:56.640
Missus Doubtfire.

476
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.240
Yes, oh yeah, I forgot about that too.

477
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:01.640
Do you consider yourself funny?

478
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:02.519
I used to?

479
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:03.839
Yoh, I know.

480
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:05.559
Good stuff.

481
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.920
All right, Well, let's move on to number four, Scott.

482
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.359
At number four, we have The Negus, written and directed

483
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.920
by David Livingston. At the top of Harangi Society sits

484
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.039
the Grand Negus the most feared, respected, and rootless leader

485
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.960
in the quadrant. He visits Quark's bar to assess all

486
00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.000
the opportunities for profits on the other side of the wormhole. However,

487
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.720
his advanced age takes a toll, and he decides to

488
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.799
pass his scepter of leadership to Quark. That's a position

489
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.240
that any Ferengi would cover it, but it's also one

490
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:37.079
that threatens his life. Will Quirk live long enough to

491
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.559
profit from his latest dissension?

492
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:44.920
Let's talk about it, Wallace Sean as Zech. I love Sean.

493
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:50.839
I can't wait to hear Jeff's reaction to Grand negas Zech.

494
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.720
Yeah, yes, I cannot work. I want to point out

495
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.519
for listeners who have not seen d Spans nine, please

496
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:02.559
keep an eye out for Mourned because he is in

497
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:08.480
what ninety three episodes of this yep? Does sound right? Yeah,

498
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.440
so he's probably on there, but probably the background person

499
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.440
who's into the most obviously besides the main characters and

500
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.880
stuff like that. But keep an eye on because he

501
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:20.119
pops up a lot in the background.

502
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.000
Yeah. Well, I mean, while is Sean going back to

503
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:30.200
his performance, is Zach horribly obnoxious? Like when you talk

504
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.519
about like Fergie getting in your nerves. This goes to

505
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.319
the apex, but he's captivating to watch, right, I mean

506
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.079
you want to kind of like turn the volume way

507
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.839
down when he's talking. But it's so interesting mm hmm.

508
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.559
The level of makeup that they caked on him. Hats

509
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:50.680
off to him for just that, if nothing else. But

510
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:54.599
it's a great look into Ferrangie culture. And just keep

511
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:56.599
an open mind and give them a chance because it's

512
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:57.319
definitely worth it.

513
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:03.960
Because remember Vulcan stole his homework because they don't have ethics, right.

514
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:06.559
I love that one.

515
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:07.599
I'm glad you.

516
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.079
Brought up that point because this is a very important

517
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:15.720
episode for the development of nog and Rom's character, but

518
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.960
most specifically nog what he goes through the friendship he

519
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:24.039
develops with Jake and his struggles with you know, I

520
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.039
want to I want to learn, I want to grow,

521
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:28.920
I want to expand. I'm going to human school, yep,

522
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.640
but none of my family wants me to be there.

523
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.799
It's a it's a great moment and a great moment

524
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.119
between Jake and his father.

525
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.680
Yeah. I was gonna say, this is going to take

526
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.279
back what I mentioned earlier, that chemistry between father and son.

527
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.200
Here it is perfectly on you know, on screen here

528
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:50.440
throughout this episode and when Cisco goes to find out

529
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.720
what's going on, and I'm not going to give it

530
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.640
away because I don't want to, you know, spoiler free here.

531
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:55.920
That was you know, very heartwarming.

532
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.839
It was I felt it.

533
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.880
I felt it when Cisco felt it, I really did.

534
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:00.599
It was awesome.

535
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.880
Yeah, this episode is one of the most important episodes

536
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.240
of the first season. Really, uh, you know, this is

537
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:09.119
where all development from the FARRINGI came from this episode.

538
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.640
You know, this is the first episode to mention the

539
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.920
rules of acquisition, which becomes very important in their society.

540
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.079
I just I love this episode. It's also again one

541
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.599
of my favorites because of two big things Wall Seawan,

542
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.720
which I mean everybody loves him. He's he's great. And

543
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.599
I have to point out this has an absolutely incredibly

544
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.039
fun musical score by John Debney, one of the few

545
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.480
episodes that he scored. It's it's incredible.

546
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.599
I do want to point out another quirk theme his

547
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.319
laugh hysterical laugh when Rom with a thick over his bar.

548
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:45.200
Yeah.

549
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.880
Yeah, oh, poor, poor poor.

550
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:52.359
Yeah.

551
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.039
That was good, good job. All right, Let's move on

552
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.920
to episode five, Wayne, and.

553
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.759
That will be forty texts, written by Sam rolf and

554
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.920
directed by Winrich Colby. A wanted criminal named cordon arrives

555
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.559
on d Space nine after killing an alien twin during

556
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:15.160
a botched robbery. Odo, suspicious according's evasive behavior, learns that

557
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.640
he may hold knowledge to of other changelings like himself.

558
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.680
Cordin convinces Odo to escort him through the Gamma quadrant,

559
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.440
claiming he can lead him to a colony where shape

560
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.160
shifters live, but he may have other personal ulterior motives

561
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.680
in mind. Now and this this is a good and

562
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.920
very important episode for Odo. This early in the season.

563
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.640
You know, we're starting to learn a little bit more

564
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.599
about this this mysterious character that even he doesn't know

565
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.920
where he's from or who he is. You know, this

566
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.039
plays a very very important role later on in the series,

567
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.599
but this is the beginnings of it.

568
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:54.000
You know.

569
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.519
It's it's a great episode. It's written by a very

570
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.519
unusual writer, Sam Rolfe, you know, one of his few

571
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.440
times touching a star Trek. He's the guy that he

572
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.359
created the TV series back in the sixties called The

573
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.440
Man from Uncle. Great series, one of my favorite sixties series.

574
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.519
But good episode, you know, it's a really good ODO episode.

575
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.880
Just why I wanted this episode to be featured in

576
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.119
this top ten, I.

577
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.400
Want I want to point out that Crowden is the

578
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.680
Cliff de Young. Yes, and of course I was in

579
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.319
Andersonville with mister de Young. I remember being on set

580
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:27.640
with him.

581
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.960
Nice. Yep, he did he show you a necklace?

582
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.000
No, he did not fad like fad like that changed

583
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.200
shape or anything fadly he didn't. Well, Odo's line, I'm

584
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.599
a security chief, not a combat pilot. We know where

585
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.480
that was going. He obviously, you know, in honor of

586
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.200
McCoy of his I'm a doctor or not whatever.

587
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:46.480
You know.

588
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.200
I thought that was pretty cool, and I think this

589
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.880
episode is important for one other thing too. This is

590
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.519
the first time anyone actually goes and steps foot into

591
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.160
the Gamma quadrant. Oh yeah, after after all these episodes,

592
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.720
what are we halfway through the season and finally we've

593
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:01.759
made it to the Gamma quatter.

594
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.960
Yeah. Well, I mean it's interesting when you think of

595
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.960
like the characters. If you're a Fano Dex generation, I

596
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.839
would say, if you're a fan of Data's storyline, that

597
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:18.920
Odo's storyline definitely bears watching. I feel like there's some

598
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.079
shared DNA there, not literally, but the in terms of

599
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:28.079
the story, you know, he's he's found and doesn't seem

600
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.359
to remember where he comes from, doesn't know a lot

601
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.359
about his origins, feels alone in the universe, and has

602
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.119
to kind of uncover a little bit about that and

603
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.839
also kind of define who he'll be. Obviously, he's a

604
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:45.319
more emotionally driven character than data, which is a god's end.

605
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.720
But it's interesting to see how his character changes a

606
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.279
little bit when he has the prospect of learning about

607
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.160
others by the same token. To interesting how much that

608
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:02.000
doesn't really change all that much. I think it's a

609
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.519
great use of the necklace as that kind of trinket

610
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.960
to kind of hint at where he may have come

611
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.160
from and where he might find some clues. I guess

612
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.200
one of the questions I want to ask this crew

613
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.519
is specifically, Wayne, do we ever see that necklace again?

614
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.480
No, we don't. It's one of those hanging plot lines

615
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.000
that they never brought up, and I think it's a

616
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:24.920
lot to do with later on, you know, a couple

617
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.960
of seasons from now, they kind of change course on

618
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.599
the way the Odo's origins, where I won't bring anything

619
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.400
out yet or reveal anything. But I don't think that

620
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:39.119
was exactly planned when they first created this series, so

621
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.359
that was forgotten on the sidelines.

622
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.880
I do think there's a way they could coexist that

623
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:51.640
we can talk about later. Yeah, yeah, but I guess

624
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.720
without spoiling anything, I think it'd be like a question

625
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.440
that is coming back in my mind is what if

626
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.079
Poo had tried to link with it? Could that possibly

627
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.160
have been like a you know, it's not just a

628
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:11.079
changeing necklace, but it could hold certain information if it's

629
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.319
specifically meant to be interacted with by a change link,

630
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.039
not just somebody that can kind of hold it, watch

631
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.119
it change shape and go back again, but something more

632
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:20.880
than that. I don't know. It might be interesting to

633
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.440
know if that every got to explored.

634
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.839
Will never know, not now anyway. All right, So we

635
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:29.799
are going to take another break. Listeners, we come back.

636
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.920
We will continue. Welcome back to listeners to phaser set

637
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.160
this done. We are continuing our discussion of Star Trek

638
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.759
Deep Space nine season one starter Trek. We will start

639
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:47.200
with in sixth episode, which is battle Lines, written by

640
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:52.279
Rick Berman and Michael Pillar, directed by Paul Lynch. Kylepaka

641
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.880
arrives on the station and shows some great interest in

642
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.799
the wormhole, so Cisco, Bashir and Kira take her on

643
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.920
a runabout and go into the worm Just on the

644
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.319
other side in the Gama quadrant, they get a signal

645
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.640
which Kyo Pocket insists for them to go look into.

646
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.000
As they investigate, a satellite disables the shuttle and calls

647
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.000
them to crash down onto the surface of the Moon.

648
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:13.719
It isn't long until the survivors are discovered by a

649
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.199
group of the Innis on the Moon. They find out

650
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.079
that the Nis are prisoners of a long war with

651
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.559
a null Innis that has continued onto the Moon itself,

652
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.119
one that is never ending. But Cisco, Bashir and Kira

653
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.599
discovered there is clearly a lot more to this than

654
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:31.679
they realize. Talk about confusion of Ennis, non Ennis or

655
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.639
no one, I should say minerstanding is. I believe it

656
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.199
was supposed to be Kardassians, was it not? But they

657
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.480
changed it because they didn't want it to look like

658
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.039
we were siding with the Cardassians.

659
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:42.800
Is that right?

660
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.159
Yeh, yeah, I think that's right, which makes perfect sense,

661
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:47.840
because yeah, you don't you don't want to get into

662
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:48.280
that mess.

663
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.320
Just I just remember being so confused with this episode

664
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.800
when at first heard, you know, the character of Kyo Pocket,

665
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.360
she seemed like such an important character if to the series,

666
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.719
an emissary, and then this happens, and I just I

667
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.159
was so baffled with it. I understand now looking at

668
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.400
the entire series as a whole, but you know, new

669
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.239
viewers just you know, accept it for what it is

670
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.320
and hang on. It is confusing. It's you know, you wonder,

671
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:26.360
you know why they did this to her, but there

672
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.519
there is a good reason for it.

673
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:28.320
Yep.

674
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.920
It's a very strong character. I think Kya opaka uh

675
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.960
is A is a great character. A great performance by

676
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.360
Camille Sabiola in that role. I recognize her from from

677
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.079
several different things, but I think she has a great

678
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.840
performance here. I think it's a great setup. It almost

679
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.159
had kind of doctor who vibes for me in terms

680
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.719
of the relationship between the n S and the NOA NS.

681
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.559
Fans of Breaking Bed will enjoy this. With Jonathan Banks

682
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.159
in the roll of Shella, he's obviously a bit different.

683
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.440
He's a little bit more you know, the the heavy

684
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.559
metal hair kind of days. But just a lot of

685
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.760
great performances that kind of make you pause and think,

686
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.639
and it kind of shows you a little bit more

687
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.960
about the beliefs of Kyopaka, how far she's willing to

688
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.119
go to to hold on those beliefs.

689
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.480
I'm going to point out Jonathan Bakes was in SeaQuest.

690
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.000
SeaQuest doesn't get a lot of love, and I know

691
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.880
Wayne loved that show.

692
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.320
No, I love that show. Yes he was. He was

693
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.519
a great character. And there's another good character too. One

694
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.559
of my favorite stunt men has oh yeah, a lot

695
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.519
to do in this Tom Morga, and he also designed

696
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.679
the weapons for this episode two basically just took like

697
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.920
a cardboard blade and a ball and old tool hand

698
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.440
handle and taped them all together. But you know, I

699
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.440
can't help him, and he's been in hundreds and hundreds

700
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.719
of episodes, but this one you can point him out

701
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:56.159
right away.

702
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.920
Just don't go to kids bashing and Stutbory.

703
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.400
I'm pretty sure I saw some behind the scenes photos

704
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:03.719
in his album when he was showing him.

705
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.280
Probably they don't go to conventions with Wayne if Tom

706
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.960
morganets there, because you're gonna be in an photos. You're

707
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.559
gonna be waiting a Tom forever and ever.

708
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.679
Yah better believe it. He has got incredible stories.

709
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.440
I'm sure he does. With his IMDb list, I can

710
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.800
see why he's got tons of stories. All right, let's

711
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.519
move on to number seven, Wayne, and.

712
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.320
That is Progress, written by Peter Allen Fields and directed

713
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.519
by less Land Out. But Joran authorities order the evacuation

714
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.400
of a moon slated to be used for a vital

715
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.000
energy project. Kiara Nourice is sent to oversee the removal

716
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.519
of the last holdouts, but she encounters an elderly farmer

717
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.199
named Mollabach who refuses to abandon his home despite her

718
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.440
sympathy for his attachment to the land he built. Kiara

719
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.239
attempts to reason with him, but fails, and she grows

720
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.480
torn between duty and compassion. Mullabook will not leave, and

721
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.599
Kiara may be forced to take more dramatic measures to

722
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:00.440
convince him.

723
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.639
Let me put me I'm sorry, go ahead, obviously. Let

724
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.199
me just point out that this was an amazing performance

725
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:07.960
by Nana Visitor.

726
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.280
Yes for sure, Yeah, this is her episode. Definitely her episode,

727
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.320
and it's got probably one of the most high profile

728
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.199
guest stars of the of the first season. I do

729
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.840
remember them really playing that up. And that's Brian Keith

730
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.000
playing Mullabuck. You know, he was in a lot of films,

731
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.440
Parent Trap, Rare Breed, Johnny Shiloh went in The Lion,

732
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:33.639
But you know, he also was at the time, you know,

733
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.320
this was just you know, early nineties, so he was

734
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.800
still in everybody's mind because he was the star of

735
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.039
a TV series called Hardcastle McCormick, which was a really

736
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.119
very successful series. But him and Nana Visitor do phenomenal

737
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.800
job together in this. It's absolutely an incredible and a

738
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.679
very important episode for her story. And it's also the

739
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.840
second episode to be scored by John Debney, which another

740
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.039
incredible score which is available in CD.

741
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.920
I also want to point out Andy O'Donnell is in this,

742
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.760
who played the wife of Brent Spiner in Night Court.

743
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.800
Oh yeah, I know what a oh yeah, Oh my goodness,

744
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.280
that's a callback David at ther point. Yeah. I mean

745
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.119
this this episode does a great job of expanding not

746
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.000
only Kieran Nourice's character. I think it's the first time

747
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.840
we hear in Urice, but it expands on how how

748
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:33.239
well it works to stay near Bajor and keep exploring

749
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.440
that culture and that history and the meaning of what

750
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.320
they have gone through and what they're currently going through

751
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.840
to have her in the Spotlight was brilliant. Brian Keith

752
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.519
does an amazing job in this. I do kind of

753
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.079
wonder if the subplot, which I also kind of liked,

754
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:56.760
about self stealing them self stealing stems, maybe they could

755
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.880
have negotiated with the people that are trying to take

756
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.159
them off world and say, but have you seen these

757
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.800
stem bolts? And then it suddenly just resolves itself.

758
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.639
Dude, they had it going on, did they not?

759
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:06.880
Yeah?

760
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.599
Yeah, the two kids were doing it.

761
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.239
I mean they're hustling.

762
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:13.119
They are hustling big time.

763
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.679
The fact that nobody knows what the hell those things

764
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.480
are supposed to do, right, I just.

765
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.639
Follow on the list. I also want to point out

766
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.079
the scene between Cisco and Kia, and I can't say

767
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:28.559
too much about it because it's towards the end of

768
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.320
the episode and I don't you know, I don't want

769
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.880
to give any spoilers, but when he gives that speech

770
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.440
to her, uh you know, to really make her come too,

771
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.199
was just a great scene between those two characters.

772
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.239
Yeah for sure.

773
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.280
Yeah, all right, so let's move on to episode eight.

774
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:49.079
Scott Number is the Forsaken, directed by Les Landau and

775
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:54.199
written by John Trombetta. It's another surprisingly poignant episode featuring

776
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.280
Lowaxana Troy, where Dyes nine becomes host of several guests

777
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.559
that test the cruisers in several ways. A delegation of

778
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.159
ambassadors arrives on the station, including Loaxa on Troy, at

779
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.639
the same time that a mysterious alien probe unleashes an

780
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.679
alien program that reads havoc within the station's systems. Doctor

781
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.719
Bisheer struggled to keep all the ambassadors busy and happy

782
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.639
and doesn't do a great job at it. While Odo

783
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.360
is involuntarily assigned to Missus Troy when she becomes infatuated

784
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.880
with him. As tensions build between them, they become stuck

785
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.239
together on malfunctioning turbolift Oba does. Odo does his best

786
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.920
to manage the situation with diplomacy, but he also begins

787
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.679
to lose his physical composure since he's gone so long

788
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.920
without regenerating. It's a funny yet poignant episode that's another classic,

789
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.960
as most are. With Missus Troy. Let's be interesting how

790
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.320
my opinion of Missus Troy changed. Yes, I think this rewatches.

791
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.400
Oh my goodness, Like I used to have this reaction

792
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.320
where I was like, all right, I'm going to rewatch

793
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.920
these things. It's the loaxae on Troy episode No thanks, yep,

794
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.480
and I'd be inclined to skip it, but my goodness,

795
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.440
she is one of those that is definitely worth watching.

796
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.679
Knowing how important Majel Barrett is to the franchise in general,

797
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:18.400
but this character does an amazing job of using comedy

798
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:23.519
to great effect, but also her ability for drama is blowing.

799
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.199
Yep. I was just the same as you, Scott. When

800
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:29.760
I saw this episode, I'm like, but I remember what

801
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.880
a good episode this was with Lou'sanna Troy, And when

802
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:37.079
I watched it again, I'm like, wow, this was a

803
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.599
great episode that I remember with her. But what I

804
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.840
find very amusing is the gag again they did when

805
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.679
we remember Pard with the hard with coming off the

806
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.039
turbo lift and you're trying to look for her and hide.

807
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:50.199
They did the same thing with Odo.

808
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:55.960
Yeah, yep, yep, Yeah, this is this is a good

809
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.960
episode considering it's actually one of the season's bottle episod

810
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.519
so it's very obvious it is you know, they don't

811
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:07.440
really go anywhere, but uh, it's it's it's good. And

812
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.679
also I keep sometimes I forget that there were two,

813
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.360
you know, both the Deep Space Sign and Next Generation

814
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.519
wearing at the same time. I always see this as

815
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.920
later in the continuity line, but actually this is takes

816
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.760
place before her appearance on in what is the episode

817
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.960
A Dark Page Next Generation, which is at my absolute

818
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:30.760
best favorite of her all all of her appearances. But

819
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:36.440
I really really evaluated this episode. It's a fantastic episode

820
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:37.599
for Lawauxana Troy.

821
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.480
Yeah, I got I gotta say the the scene in

822
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:46.440
OPTS when uh the Ambassadors show up and Cisco realizes

823
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.119
that they are there and he has his back to

824
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.360
them and he turns on his customer service faith ye

825
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.119
bends around. I felt that deep in me. I did, yep,

826
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.519
because we all had to do that when we have

827
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.960
to deal with people, and I'm like, oh, okay, yep,

828
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:04.320
Cisco has to do it too.

829
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.480
Yep. I get it.

830
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.280
But no, this is this is a really good pick

831
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.559
and listeners out there, if you're rolling your eyes because

832
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.119
it's a lew wallax Son or Troy episode, don't it's

833
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:16.079
a really good one. It is.

834
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.440
Yes, You're definitely worth watching. Don't skip it.

835
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.159
Yeah, just the scenes between her and Odo on the

836
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.559
turble lift were fantastic. They really were, all right. Well,

837
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:29.559
let's move on to Episode nine Duets written by Rick

838
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.400
Berman and Michael Pillar, directed by James Conway. A Kardashian

839
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.559
traveler arrives on the space station and is quickly learned

840
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.280
he has the Kalona disease and needs medical attention. We

841
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.840
learned that only people who were sent to the most

842
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.079
brutal labor camps by the Kardashians were affected by this disease,

843
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.239
causing some concerns and questions by Kira on who he

844
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.880
really is, and tends to persecute him to the full

845
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.239
extent of a Jordan law. Kira fights her internal battles

846
00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:00.320
as she struggles to distinguish between vengeance, truth answers, and

847
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.679
her planet's pressure to prosecute him for war crimes. But

848
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.159
as she and the crew dig deeper, they discover just

849
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.920
who their prisoner really is. Now, I'm going to say

850
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.800
this is Kira's best episode in season one, by far

851
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.679
her best, Nana's most incredible performance, especially the scenes in

852
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.880
the cell where she is questioning him and trying to

853
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.480
figure out who he is is irresponsible for all that

854
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.760
and just getting to that to the answers, I just

855
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.320
thought that was incredible and I hung on every word

856
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:39.079
in those scenes.

857
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.400
Yeah, this is this is an episode that I I'm

858
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.119
glad that I forgot what happens in it.

859
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:44.960
Mm hmm.

860
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.440
It is so worth the wait, the kind of unraveling

861
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.360
of what happens in the episode, and even when you

862
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.440
get some kind of resolution, it's still not over yet.

863
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.400
I think that the acting between none of His and

864
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.880
Harris Helen as the main kind of protagonist character are

865
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.000
are brilliant. I mean very hard to look away at

866
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:11.760
these two when they're when they're acting together.

867
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.519
Star Trek is so good at making these dramatic episodes,

868
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.559
and this is definitely one of their finests. This is

869
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:18.519
this is a must watch.

870
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:19.320
You know.

871
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.880
Frequently this is listed on People's best episode lists, and

872
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:29.239
even as recent as twenty seventeen, the BBC's Radio Times

873
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:33.360
listed it as the fifth best episode of Star Trek altogether.

874
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.719
So he definitely watches when it is phenomenally good, and

875
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.039
it's because of the performances.

876
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:39.519
Yep.

877
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.719
I think Arman, Shimmerman and Nana Visitor account this is

878
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:44.880
among their favorite episodes of the entire.

879
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.400
Theories, and I can think we're seeing why Yepeah.

880
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.639
Not giving anything away, but I'm telling there's a gut

881
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:50.440
punch coming.

882
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.519
To that end. I feel like this is one that's

883
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.920
worth watching twice. Yes, if you want to follow up

884
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.320
our list, definitely feel free to do so, you know,

885
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.639
see it through to the end. But this is one

886
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.400
where you'll have a different perspective on some things when

887
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.320
you rewatch it, and I think it's worth taking a look.

888
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.320
All right, let's move on to our final episode of

889
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.000
season one, number ten, Wayne.

890
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.239
And that is the season finale In the Hands of

891
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:23.280
the Prophets, written by Robert Hewitt Wolfe and directed by

892
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.440
David Livingstone. Vedic Win arrives on Deep Space nine and

893
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.599
objects to Keiko O'Brien's teaching of Bjorn children, claiming the

894
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:37.400
Federation's school dismisses Bajoran religious beliefs. Her challenge sparks tension

895
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:42.920
between secular Federation ideals and Bajoran's spiritual traditions, creating a

896
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.079
rift among the station's Bajoran population. As Cisco works to

897
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.679
ease the conflict, a series of violent incidents, including the

898
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.000
bombing of the school, reveals When's willingness to incite on

899
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:59.159
Rest to advance her political ambitions, Cisco begins to recognize

900
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.480
the growing and fluent of majoring religion in station politics,

901
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.599
and wins dangerous potential as an adversary.

902
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:06.599
This.

903
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.360
First of all, this wasn't how the season was supposed

904
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.199
to end. They were originally going to do this as

905
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.840
a major a large crossover between D Space nine and

906
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:18.960
the Next Generation. They were going to have them fighting

907
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:24.480
against a Bajoran attack, but that was just way too

908
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.079
much cost. You know, by the end of the season

909
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.840
they're kind of, you know, counting their pennies. But this

910
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.239
was a really even even though this was actually a

911
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:36.039
very expensive episode because of huge crowd numbers, it's it's

912
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.519
wonderfully done it. You know, I keep saying this is

913
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.239
probably this is definitely a top ten episode. It's definitely

914
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.519
an incredibly important episode to watch. You know, a lot

915
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.519
of introductions here, lots of introductions to storylines that are

916
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.840
going to continue all the way through all the way

917
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:55.519
to the finale of the entire series. So you can't

918
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.599
miss this one. You have to watch it.

919
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.360
I like the debate it was going on obviously in

920
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.920
our country between evolution and creationism and how that pops

921
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.880
up in Star Trek, Star Trek Star Trek does that

922
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.480
so well. You know, they'll see what politics are going

923
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.400
on in the world or in the country and they'll

924
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:14.360
pull that into an episode. And that's clearly what they

925
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.440
did here. And it makes sense. I mean it works

926
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:22.000
well because you're over a planet Major and you got

927
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.760
to do with their politics because you know, really, isn't

928
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.320
this their space station. It's I mean, the Cardassians had it.

929
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.719
Now it's over Major. You know, it's there's a lot

930
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.480
going on there, and with this is where the whole

931
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:37.000
series is going to take place. It they should dive

932
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.760
into something like this, So it's interesting they chose it

933
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.840
for the finale, but it makes sense, it really does.

934
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.039
Yeah, and the themes are actually even more relevant today

935
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
than they were back then. I mean we still we're

936
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.639
still debating all this stuff today here in the real world.

937
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.360
It was not Keiko again, by the way, Yes it was.

938
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.360
Yes, you got to give props to rosalem Chow and

939
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.920
take O'Brien's role does a phenomenal job. And yeah, as

940
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:09.599
a teacher at the cusp of the unknown right trying

941
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:14.400
to find a way to help kids apply scientific reasoning

942
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.239
to help understand things that are happening, and she's still

943
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:24.360
saying that there's a place for the religious belief angle,

944
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.800
but that's not necessarily her responsibility. The fact that when

945
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.920
we talk about like, you know, modern relevance and things

946
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.440
like that, especially with Vetik Wynn, who ish one of

947
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.519
my last favorite characters. Louise Fletcher does a great job

948
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.880
of creating that character. But when you have someone that

949
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.480
uses that debate as a way to grab onto power

950
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:53.760
and use it to her own designs, like definitely relevant today,

951
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.360
but a theme that we've heard throughout history and definitely

952
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.920
one worth watching here. It does a great job of

953
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.880
setting up that dynamic at this point, not necessarily be

954
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:08.840
doing the Kardashians and the Jordans, but the Jordans within themselves.

955
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.360
You know, there's differing beliefs, there's differing factions. It's a

956
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.079
theme that definitely comes back around, and we show that

957
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.760
as much as the Station is kind of coming together

958
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:24.719
and finding opportunities for unity, there's also opportunities for division

959
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.320
and something they definitely need to continue to working on

960
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.599
throughout the series. What are the reasons that this series

961
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:31.400
is worth watching?

962
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.280
Frankly and Luise Fletcher, she is such an incredible actress,

963
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.280
and we all know her from our other film. She's,

964
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.559
you know, an Academy Award winner. But the fact that

965
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.039
we hate Vedick Wins so much really shows just how

966
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.000
incredible an actress she is, because you really do hate

967
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:50.440
that character.

968
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.840
Yeah, and as we did with Star Technistration as well,

969
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.559
there's always sly an episode that of the season that

970
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:01.679
we probably didn't like as much and just honorable mention.

971
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.880
I guess so, Wayne, what have you got for us?

972
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:12.039
Oh? Without question, it's it's move along home. Yeah, let

973
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.239
me give you a quick syndopsis this you know, uh,

974
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.400
the Wadi, which is a Gama quadried species, visits Deep

975
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.519
Space nine. They introduce a game named Chula, and Cisco

976
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.559
and Kierra and Dax and Bashir become game pieces inside

977
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.519
this this this environment where their lives appear to depend

978
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:32.599
on the outcome and QRK is playing the game on

979
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.320
the outside. You when when d Space nine first first premiered,

980
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:41.000
you know, it was marketed as a darker, more grounded

981
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.519
version of Star Trek and we got in the next generation.

982
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.800
But this episode is just too campy, too comic for

983
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.960
what we were all expecting. And it might have worked

984
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.679
as maybe an original series episode, but not not with

985
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:54.440
the rest of the episodes of Deep Space nine. It

986
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.079
just doesn't work, not this, not this early in the show. Yeah,

987
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.159
the Watti come across mostly is just goofy, you know,

988
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.679
and considering they're the first species that are encountered from

989
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:10.400
the Gamma quadrant after the Wormhole's discovery, it's a huge disappointment.

990
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.400
And don't don't get me started on that whole Ala

991
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:18.880
Moraine and Hopscotch scene that was just embarrassing. Plus, you know,

992
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:21.920
it was because of this episode that we didn't get

993
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.760
Terry Ferrell on the Next Generation, that episode Birthright. You know,

994
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.199
she had to film this, this horrible thing. And Avery

995
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.039
Brooks once said it one of his appearances a Dragon

996
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.599
Con that this is his least favorite episode.

997
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.039
Clearly, I've seen this voted several times as the worst

998
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.119
episode of the franchise, and I think I've seen it

999
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.920
was voted eighth worst, eighth worst episode of the whole

1000
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.840
Star Trek franchise. That's serious.

1001
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.400
Let's just say, I don't I like this. I don't

1002
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.920
like this even more than Spock's brain.

1003
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.039
Yeah, well it's you know, you mentioned that Hopscotch scene.

1004
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.519
The performance of the I can't even say that it's

1005
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:11.199
because of the actually the place Julian Basher. There's a

1006
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.800
situation there in that Hopscotch scene where he just acts

1007
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.360
so out of character. So it feels like, if you

1008
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:23.360
can make it past Hopscotch, you have my respect and

1009
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:24.320
Mike nolens is.

1010
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.719
At the same time, definitely just avoid the episode altogether

1011
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.960
and unless you guys, spare time after you've seen the

1012
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.400
ten episodes we've talked about and then go back and

1013
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:34.719
watch it just for giggles.

1014
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:36.840
There you go. Yeah, I don't even know if you

1015
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:40.199
want to giggle during an idea. I just held my

1016
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.639
head and turned away.

1017
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.239
Fair enough. Oh, just like we did First Star Trek

1018
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.440
nixt generation, we're going to choose one character from the

1019
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.559
season and pick what we think is their best scene

1020
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.000
moment for the season. This one, we are choosing Commander

1021
00:54:56.039 --> 00:55:01.239
Benjamin Cisco Scott. What is your best moment for him?

1022
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.960
I would say the one that I found most fascinating.

1023
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.960
And there's a ton in here and there's tons more

1024
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.199
to come. Listeners, so don't think this is like the

1025
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:16.400
apex of as Cistsco when he is trying to build

1026
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.039
the defense for Dax in the Dax episode, and there's

1027
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:23.679
a moment when it feels like he's talking to both

1028
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:29.119
jad Za and Curzon alternately in the same conversation while

1029
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:33.920
at the same time trying to find understanding in the middle.

1030
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:39.760
He loses his temper at one point, and you see

1031
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.599
the dynamic between the two of them grow, and it's

1032
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.960
so much of a definition for jed Zia's character, for

1033
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.840
Dax's character specifically, because it's kind of like, I'm I'm

1034
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.719
that person you knew, but I'm somebody completely different and

1035
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:56.559
trying to figure out how that works. Their dynamic is

1036
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:59.880
beautiful here, and I think he did a great job there.

1037
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:02.079
Well, you know, he had a lot of great moments

1038
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.840
this first season, but I think his his finest moment

1039
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.239
really happened in the season finale in the Hands of

1040
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:11.599
the Prophets, where you know, Cisco refused to allow the

1041
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:16.320
Bajoran religious dogma to dictate the Federation school policy, and

1042
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:21.079
you know when a Vedic Win pressures Keiko to to

1043
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.480
include those teachings. Everything that has happened, every bit of

1044
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.079
character growth from during the last twenty episodes kind of

1045
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.480
have been leading to this. You know, it's just Cisco

1046
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.679
shows himself as a thoughtful but a very firm leader.

1047
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.119
You know, he respects Bjorn faith, but draws the line

1048
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.199
against allowing it to really compromise his own principles and

1049
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:41.920
the federations.

1050
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:42.639
You know.

1051
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.840
It just showed his willingness to stand the ground against

1052
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:50.440
this powerful religious leader, you know, and her manipulation, which

1053
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.239
is really what she's she's doing, kind of sets him up,

1054
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.039
definitely sets him apart from Picard.

1055
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:57.000
You know.

1056
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.719
It shows that he's not going to be bullied by anybody.

1057
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:05.320
Uh And I just think both his and everyone's performances

1058
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:09.440
this season, you know, are just incredible and and really

1059
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.360
everything the way we go right now from Cisco, he

1060
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.440
just he just gets better and better as we go

1061
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.800
to the end of the season, the series, to the

1062
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:17.400
end of the series.

1063
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:19.400
I love the fact that all three of us have

1064
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.280
different ones and they're like spread out for the whole season. Wayne,

1065
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:26.960
you pick the finale, I'm picking in a sari, it's Cisco's.

1066
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:31.840
The moment is when he's with his son and he's

1067
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.400
showing his vulnerability to his son to Jake, showing his

1068
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.639
grief and admitting he can't move on from his wife's death.

1069
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:42.840
The chemistry and I've mentioned it several times already in

1070
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.360
this episode, the chemistry between these two actors is phenomenal.

1071
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.360
Like the casting was dead on for a father and

1072
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.079
son relationship to show on screen on how good it is.

1073
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.760
And this scene between the two of them is just

1074
00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:00.440
absolutely beautiful showing their relationship of how much Cisco cares

1075
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.159
for his son and how much his son respects his dad,

1076
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.079
and and to show because a lot of fathers would

1077
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.320
hide that from their son, right that you know, they

1078
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.800
can't move on from the death of their wife. But

1079
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.280
he knows that that's not fair to Jake, so he

1080
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.119
allows that to happen because that's just going to make

1081
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.280
the relationship even stronger. And to me, that proved to

1082
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.320
me just what an amazing person Cisco is and what

1083
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:28.119
a great leader he's going to be because he has

1084
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.760
that vulnerability, he has that honesty with everybody he works

1085
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.320
with and works under him. And you're right, this is

1086
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.719
just the tip of the iceberg for Cisco. His character

1087
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:41.760
gets bigger and better as we go along to this season.

1088
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:42.960
I mean serious.

1089
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.840
We talked about this briefly in a chat. We're talking

1090
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.559
about how we felt like Cisco wasn't at his best

1091
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.559
in season one. He still is really good in this season,

1092
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.760
do not get me wrong. And we've pointed out three

1093
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:58.079
amazing scenes here that he was really good in. And

1094
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.679
when we started talking about it and realize, holy crop,

1095
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.440
there is some great episodes coming up from Fisco that

1096
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:04.920
we just cannot wait to dive into.

1097
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.039
Yeah, there are, yeah, And I mean, as a as

1098
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:11.280
a dad, you've got to you can't help but empathize

1099
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:15.840
for the situation that he is in the difficulty, you know,

1100
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.639
just the nature of where he is asking his son

1101
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:21.800
his family had to come along with him. But knowing

1102
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.639
that when Jake lost his mom he was only ten

1103
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.599
years old, yep. And now he's a teenager and Cisco

1104
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.880
is trying to raise a teenager, which is always fraught

1105
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:38.440
with uh, go ahead, living opportunities. Right, It's not always

1106
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:43.159
easy for either one, right, right. And his demeanor, It's

1107
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:48.599
interesting how much kind of you know, power and respect

1108
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.480
Benjamin Cisco has or how much he kind of you know,

1109
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.239
draws from other people, but he keeps all that under

1110
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.519
this kind of calm, even keeled demeanor. It's Scott like

1111
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:05.800
a lion king, like a mofossa. It does kind of

1112
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:11.800
quality to it. Yeah, so it's he's Avery Brooks, amazing,

1113
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.920
amazing actor and he's just getting started here.

1114
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.159
Absolutely, I could agree more. All right, listeners, So what

1115
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:20.639
do you think? Did we get it correct? Did your

1116
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.840
episodes make the cut? If you're new to Star Trek,

1117
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.320
are you looking forward to diving into these ten episodes?

1118
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.119
Let us know and why. We would love to hear

1119
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:32.480
your comments. You can check us out at www dot

1120
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.119
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1121
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.039
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1122
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.000
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1123
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.239
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1124
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:45.039
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1125
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:49.199
a film by swag Scott. Wayne. Thank you for joining me.

1126
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.320
I can't stay on the bridge this time and on

1127
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:56.960
the op Center, I guess yeah, yeah, because I cannot

1128
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.119
wait to go through the rest of the series with

1129
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.400
you guys, because I know there's some major stuff coming

1130
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:05.000
that it's gonna be really heavy for us to talk about.

1131
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:07.480
And I can't wait for anyone who's new to the

1132
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.039
show to get into those seasons because there's some stuff

1133
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.760
coming that's gonna get crazy and so all you listening

1134
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.079
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1135
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.400
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1136
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.800
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