Nov. 4, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Three

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Three
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Season 6Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

Our popular "Starter Treks" mini-series is back with a look at Deep Space Nine! Our crew is leaving the bridge and settling in at the Promenade to share the ten episodes you need to see from season three, if you aren't ready to watch all 26 episodes!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Welcome back to a new episode of Phasers Set to Stun,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek in this ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every system of the expanding Star Trek

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universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise, and much

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much more. Plotting your course on this voyage through the

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wormhole is your Core Trek crew. I'm Wayne Whiten, I'm David.

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Byrne, and I'm Scott Hoffman.

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And today we're returning to the edge of the Frontier

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to continue our discussion and what we like to call

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Starter Treks. A chosen list list for first time viewers.

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This spoiler free list focuses on the top ten episodes

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from each season for people diving into Star Trek Deep

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Space nine for the first time, showing them a great

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place to start and what to warp away from. With

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Starter Treks, we simplify the list to give new viewers

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a taste from each season. After you listen to the episode,

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you can find the course we plotted for you on

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the convenient list located in the description below. The year

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was nineteen ninety four. Star Trek the Next Generation had

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finished its seven year run with a hell of a

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series finale earlier that year. For the first time during

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its run, Deep Space nine was floating in space on

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its own, the only Star Trek on our screens, at

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least for a couple of months, because that November saw

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the release of the film Star Trek Generations, and then

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just a little over a month later, the series premiere

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of Star Trek Voyager in January nineteen ninety five. It

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was a very busy year for Star Trek. Changes were coming,

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and Deep Space nine was evolving right alongside its two

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sister shows. Season three brought us a new and dangerous

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adversary to our little station, a move towards long form

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storytelling and serialization, the first use of CGI for starships,

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newly designed combadges for Starfleet. Odo got a belt and

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Cisco got a beard, and a new way to get

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around with the introduction of the USS Defiant. All Right,

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let's start. What do you guys think about the introduction

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of these tough little ship for DS nine.

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I think it was needed to help the progress of

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the story because I think it was going to get

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stale with them just sitting on the deep Space nine.

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So they had to move it out. So they needed

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a ship, and I think to define is definitely the answer.

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Gives them a lot more maneuverability. Although I do love

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the Runabouts nine. Those are great little ships on their own,

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but yeah, I mean it addresses a lot of the

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you know, mobility concerns. It can't just stay on the

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station because you have a whole quadrant to explore, and

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obviously with the big threat it opens up the door

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for a lot of great CGI space bells.

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Yeah, I mean the Runabouts are great, but they're not

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really designed for any space battles or for anything, you know, major,

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So it was a necessary addition.

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They had a tough little ship.

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It does make me kind of grit and every time

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I heard that in this season, I was like, and

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then I have to think about, like where that came

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up with another movie that we've talked about.

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But anyway, all right, so let's begin with our list

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of the top ten must watch episodes from the third

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season of Star Trek Deep Space nine. Scott, why don't

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you start us off with the first episode?

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Yeah, so we're going to talk about a two parter

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right out of the gate. They don't waste it any time.

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So The Search is a story by Iris Steven Beer

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and Robert Hewitt Wolfe and directed by Kim Friedman. Starfleet

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recognizes the potential threat of the Dominion and the Founders

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after the events of last season, and they send a

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ship made for the task. The USS Defiant arrives at

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DS nine, and it's a tough little ship designed for battle.

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Originally made to defend against the Board, The Defiant takes

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Cisco and the crew into the game of Quadrant on

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a covert mission to learn more about the Founders and,

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if possible, convince them that the Federation is not a

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threat and a potential ally. But a catastrophe sends the

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crew in separate directions as Kira and Odo escape in

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a shuttle on unexpected side mission, where Odo seems drawn

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to what may be his home world. It's a tense

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two parter that sets the stage for a very intense

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season three after that recap and after thinking about all

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that happens in this episode, there's genuinely part of me

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that's like, all right, let's move on to the next episode,

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because there's very little that we can say without spoiling

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a whole lot. So all that to say, this is

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a very important episode. I'd say, a very intense and

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amazing opening to the season that absolutely sets the tone

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for everything else it's about to happen.

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Well, it's very important for Odo obviously, but this, this

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two parter is very very important to Odo and who

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he is and where he comes from.

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For sure.

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I do want to call out Ken Marshall, who plays

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Lieutenant Commander Michael Eddington. You may remember it. You may

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remember him as Colon from Kroll.

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I do.

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Oh my god, yep, back, it's a crawl back.

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It is a while for me to realize that too,

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when he looks so different.

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He does.

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Yeah, and that's definitely a character to watch.

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It is it will absolutely. We had the new combadges,

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which is kind of interesting, and then our first appearance

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of romulents under Your Life nine.

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Yeah, oh yeah, that's true.

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played by Martha Hacketts, which we see definitely more of

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her in Star Trek Voyager. But I thought she was

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an interesting character. It's a pity that they didn't add

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her to the secondary cast. But like they did with Eddington,

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I thought it having a romulin stuck in the middle

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of them actually would have been rather interesting to the

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story to you know, to see the dynamics between the two.

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But yeah, she's she's gone by the end of the

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second second episode.

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Yeah, I think they got rid of her character too fast.

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I agree with you, Wayne, I think that could have

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caused a lot of friction to add to the what's

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going on around Deep Space nine and between the characters themselves.

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I really wish they would have kept her.

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Yeah. Now, I mean we can hear here Wright Scott.

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We can't really tell too much about this episode, so

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just everybody go go watch it. But let let me

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let me ask you guys. This for a two parter,

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it starts off really good. But what did you think,

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without giving any spoilers away, what did you think of

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the ending, either back when you first saw it or

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when you rewatched it. Now. Hm, I'm gonna be honest,

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I remember when we when this first aired and I

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wasn't it had such a great idea, and of course

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after the season finale last season, I was expecting big things.

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I thought the the ending kind of left me confused.

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Okay, that's interesting, and yeah, it's very hard to talk

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about this without anything. I thought. Overall, it helped to

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raise the amount of questions and give the right amount

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of answers at the right time.

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Yeah, it left a lot of questions opened. I think

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that's what confused me a lot. Now, you know, looking

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back now, I understand what they were doing, and you know,

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when you see the series as a whole, but when

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you're coming into it for the first time watching it,

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it's like, you know, what, what? What did I just watch?

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What just happened?

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Yeah, there's a a spoilery question that comes to mind

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at the end in terms of when there's a reunion

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between certain characters, the how much you can trust that

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reunion that happens, and that that definitely comes up later.

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So it's it's an interesting rewatch moment, I would say,

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And you get to like, what season five, maybe just

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kind of season six, maybe dip back into this and

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see if you can see when certain things happened or

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when certain.

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That's a good suggestion.

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Yeah, yeah, just speak careful what you said. You'll get

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phased on the show.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm being very careful. I was

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not expecting that our producer phasing me.

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I'm very I will point out another standout performance salom Gens. Yeah,

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has been on Next Generation before, wearing very similar prosthetic makeup.

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I'll say, and that's a character to watch throughout the

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rest of the series. I think I can say that

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without spoiling very much. But it's a I think it's

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a standout performance. I mean it's absolutely I mean it's

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it's intriguing, but it's also chilling, the consistency of her

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performance throughout. So just heads up, that's one to.

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Watch, all right. Onto episode two, and this one is mine.

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It is Second Skin, written by Robert Hewitt Wolf and

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directed by Les Landaum. Major Kira Nurice is shocked to

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awaken on Dark Cardassia, where she is told she's actually

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a card Assi and name Eleana Gemore, a deep cover

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operative who only believes she was but Jordan. As she

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struggles to cling to her identity, the Cardassians insist her

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entire life as Kiara was a fabricated cover story. Kiera

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begins to doubt herself when she finds apparent evidence supporting

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their claim, including the affection of a man claiming to

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be her father. All right, now, this is an interesting episode.

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I'm glad you guys chose because I didn't put this

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on my list, But after rewatching it, I realized this

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really is such a strong episode for Major Kiera. She

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has one about one really strong one per season, and

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this is the season three's. It was originally wasn't going

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to be Kira. It was actually going to be Chief

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O'Brien that was in the part, which I'm glad they

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didn't go with that way. The reason they didn't use

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Chief O'Brien is because if he was actually no one

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would believe it because if he was a Cardassian, well

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he's got a kid. I mean, you know, this was

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a lot of complications that would require a lot of explanations,

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something they really didn't want to get into. But from

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what I understand, Nana Visitor hated this episode. She hated

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it because remember last season I talked about Helen Utdi

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being very claustrophobic and Meg hera our Nana visitor is too,

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and having to wear all that makeup sent her into

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panic attacks, which I mean, that's just horrible. So I

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can understand why she did not like filming this episode.

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And it's interesting that she says that because that episode

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coming up, you would think she'd be claustrophobic in that

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episode too, that we're going to talk about soon.

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I know which one you're talking about, And yes she was,

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Yes she was.

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That one was even worth in my opinion, I've got

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to say, you know, without giving away anything, I thought

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the ending to this episode was absolutely beautiful. Yeah, between

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between two characters. Yes, it really was. I mean it

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really pulled the heart strings at the end of this episode,

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and it just it was. It was just beautifully done.

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It reminds me a lot of I'm going to blank

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out on the name of the episode and even the

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season that it was in. We wily talked about too

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so far, where she is trying to convince the Bajoran

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to leave a planet that's like everybody's evacuating the planet.

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She has to help the Pajoran with building the fireflace.

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You know that what I'm talking about during the first season.

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Yeah, that reminds me a lot of this one has

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a very interesting look into the Obsidian order and the

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manipulative abilities of them and the you know, Cardassians in general.

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I would say, not to make a kind of a generalization,

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but I mean like they they do it like no

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one else.

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Yeah, they do.

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But it gives a lot more characterization to him though.

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I mean, it gives a lot more to the Cardassians.

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Yeah, which is great, and I'm glad that they've given

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them this kind of range. That it's now that they're

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two dimensional villains or anything else like that, but they

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with the Kardassians. Yeah. Yeah, And we're going to talk

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about few of those episodes here where you are really

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starting to see them more in depth than we've ever

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seen them. I mean, what we saw of them in

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the next generation, I mean, they were just a villain.

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They you know, you didn't really care about, and we're

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understanding them and you get that too here at the

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beginning of D Space nine. But as the show's going along,

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we're digging deeper into that and it makes them a

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whole lot more interesting, especially Gerk.

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really grows. Yeah, that's another new thing we got this

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episode two is we got a new musical composer for

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the series. This Yeah, David Bell. You know he's he'd

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been around for a while. He composed for Murder she

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wrote and The Heat of the Night. He also did

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a film called Final Justice, which I really remember from

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Mystery Science Theater three thousand. He's from He's from Middletown, Ohio.

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I did not interest.

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He's a local boy. Yeah, well we.

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Gotta call him out for sure, since in Ohio bo

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boy for sure.

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All right, David, you get episode three.

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That is defiant interesting title written by Ronald D. Moore

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and Robert Hewitt, Wolf, directed by Cliff Bole. Kira is

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on the verge of snapping from all the pressure she

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has encountered. She even snaps Zambashier, who immediately orders her

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to take some time off. Kira is taken to Cork's

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Bar to relax, where she runs into none another than

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Commander Riker, who has leave of his own. It seems

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he is on his way to the planet Riza for

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some pleasure. Kiera and Riker hit off hit it off,

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and she offers to give him a tour around the station,

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but he has quite the interest in one thing. The Defiant.

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Riker eventually takes control of this ship and warps away,

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causing tensions to rise between the Cardashians and the Federation,

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bringing them to possible war. Going and Goldcott must work

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together to capture Riker and the Defiant, but in doing so,

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even more secrets are revealed. So we were just talking

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about more in depth with the Cardassians, and here is

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one of that. You know, Cisco is taken to their

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planet to help them capture the Defiant, and they have

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to trust each other here, and even gald to Cott

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is kind of thrown off by I forget the character's name,

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Is it correct, Cornas? Is that our name? Karnass Yes? Yeah,

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who who basically you know, was overseeing Dacott a little

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bit here because he is the military commander and he

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knows everything that's going on in the military. But then

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he's caught by surprise of you know, I'm not going

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to say it because we don't want to give it away,

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but some of the secrets that are going on that

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the Kardassians are holding back from him, so it's kind

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of like a wait a minute here, Cisco is supposed

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to be the one who is you know, you know,

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getting surprised by the Cardassians, but gall to Coat kind

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of gets caught with his pants down, right for sure.

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it digs a lot deeper into how the secrecy is

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so intertwined and so essential to Cardessian life, let alone

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their military structure.

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Yeah, yep, and it's interesting. Rachel Garrett plays her, and

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she was in Yesterday's enterprise I believe as Rachel Garrett, right,

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Rachel Garrett. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she played Rachel Garrett and

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Yesterday's enterprise, which is kind of neat that they bring

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her back. I love that Star Trek does that they

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bring back so many actors to play different characters. Okay,

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I mean you can get away with it when they

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have so much makeup on them, you really can't tell

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they are.

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According to the Star Yates, this is the last episode

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that plays that happens before the events of Star Trek Generations.

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I was wondering about that. There's a lot of this

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where I'm kind of like, where does this fit in

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all of the Yeah, so that's interesting context.

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I will say there's there's one scene between Ducott and

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Cisco that I absolutely love in this episode, and this

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isn't giving away anything. It's when Dacott is explaining to

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Cisco about his explanation of his son's birthday and what

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the boy will remember, you know, he will look back

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with hatred because his father was pulled away during the

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time of his birthday. I thought that was a really

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cool It gave more depth to Ducott. It really did

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to me, and you know because I mean he's just

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not this stoic leader who is a villain with the Cardassians.

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He actually has a kid, He's got a family, and

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to hear that explain to Cisco just really puts that into,

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you know, a different level of this character.

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So it's not only from different planets, different societies, but

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just a different parenting style. And it's not presented in

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such a way that this is the wrong way to

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do it. It's just kind of differing styles and it's

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an interestingly disarming way to position Goldacott because in a

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lot of this. When you look at his entire arc,

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He's absolutely a villain. He started out that way, but

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you get these looks into him that give him a

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bit more relatable depth where you understand that, like you know,

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and that's where you get some great villain development, in

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my opinion, is the ones that you're afraid of because

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they you can you can see the logic behind what

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they're doing. You don't agree with it necessarily, but you

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see what's drive them.

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The best line of the episode, you shouldn't go fishing today,

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you won't catch anything. Was weird.

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Yeah, good line. But what are you gonna do? All right?

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Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be

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back right after these messages, and we're continuing on with

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our starter treks for Star Trek Deep Space nine. Our

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fourth pick is the second of the season's two parters,

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and that is Past Tense. Captain Cisco, doctor Bashir, and

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Jodziev Dax are accidentally transported to the twenty first century

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Earth after a transporter malfunction. Cisco and Bisher find themselves

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in San Francisco just before the Infamous Bell Riots, a

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pivotal event in which oppressed citizens from the sanctuary districts

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rise up against social inequality, but things take a dangerous

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turn when history is altered, forcing Cisco to take drastic

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measures to put things right. Meanwhile, Dax works to contact Starfleet,

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while the crew on DS nine race to locate and

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retrieve their missing officers before the timeline is completely altered.

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Now this another two parter, so early in the series.

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This is an interesting one and I think probably one

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of the better of the two parters for the entire series.

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I really like this. I like this when it first aired.

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I like this now. It's it's really well done. And

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I know it's uh, it can be a little preachy,

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but I think it works a little a little bit,

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a little bit, a little bit a lot, actually, but

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I think it's it's written. It's so well written that

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you don't even you don't even notice that, and at

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least I didn't that much. It's just a good episode,

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and uh, you know, I like it. It's not too

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much you can give about. It's about the ending of it.

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I don't want to give anything away.

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Right Well, the biggest win here is when I celebrated

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Dick Miller.

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Yes, yes, yes, I was gonna say somebody's got to say.

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Dick Miller is amazing and everything he does, and we

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always want to call him out and everything he does

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because he is fantastic. We gotta call it. Clint Howard. Yeah,

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he's not a not a very big role in this one,

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but he he is in it. Clint is in a

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lot of stuff and as we know, he's got he's

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been an original star Trek obviously when he was really little. Yep, Scott,

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this really reminded me, especially part two, really reminded me

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of Dog Day Afternoon.

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Yes, yes, yes, read in my mind.

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Yeah, this is exactly what it felt like. When I

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was watching this, I was like, this is Dog Day Afternoon,

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and it really it's what it felt like.

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Yeah, that's true. That's a good goal, and fans of

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that you'll be I think pleasantly surprised by this one.

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I think it's got a lot of great development. It's

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not as two dimensional as it could be. It's a

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very interesting look at what they thought twenty twenty four

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would be like, So just watch it with that lens.

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The future right exactly.

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But also just interesting, like their their take on some

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issues of the day, Like it gets a lot into

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struggles of the homeless and just looking at that through

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it kind of a nineties lens versus today's lens. It

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does get a bit preachy, but but it's it's an

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interesting use of a two parter, right, It's not advancing

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the story all that much. It's just taking a beat

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to kind of look at SEMy present day and give

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a different perspective.

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And it's convincing character development too. Yes, No, I mean,

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especially with Bashir. I mean you're you're getting a lot

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of Hilm in this, and it's it's it's helping them

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to develop each other, between Basher and Cisco for one thing.

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So I like that. It doesn't you're right, it doesn't

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push the story along for D Space nine, but it

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does push the characters, and I think that's why I

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like it. But you know, it's one of those things

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where you when you're watching, you're kind of rolling your

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eyes with like, oh, start trek seing another episode where

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they're going back in time to to our you know,

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to our time. But it's not really that. It's got

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a really good story, it's got a good heart.

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Pine.

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Yeah, it is preachy, but some good things that are

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going on in this a lot of good performances and

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those kind of things. And I also want to call

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out Deborah Van and Vaukenberg, who plays a detective president

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in this many of you want to know her. Murphy

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and the Warriors Scott another movie we covered yep, and

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of course Jackie Rush from Too Close for Comfort, because

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I want to hear monrou.

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Boughts on the major Kira Chief O'Brien adventure that we

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probably can't say too much about, but there's a little

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bit of kind of comic relief I think with that.

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Didn't they add that because they were they needed to

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add more time to it, so they added those scenes. Yeah,

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that's why they would get that that montage.

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Yeah, those are films much late in the filming session.

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But I do want to bring something else that's not

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a spoiler. I want to point something out that I

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think is rather cool. When they go back to nineteen thirty,

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you'll notice the camera the director is really adamant on

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showing this boxing poster that's that's hanging up. Just so

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you know, that boxing poster is the same poster that

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we see hanging on the wall in the episode Sitting

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on the edge of Forever. It was put there on purpose,

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because that means that Kira and O'Brien are at the

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exact same time as Kirk spocka, McCoy aar and everything.

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They're both on Earth at the same time.

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That's kind of cool.

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And neither neither one of them goes to see the match.

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No, I mean, you're right, but you know that's not

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the only thing too. If you really want to talk timelines,

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you know this, let's see twenty twenty four. This Picard

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and his bunch traveled back to twenty twenty four during

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in the second season of Star Trek Card, which means

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that and they even visited one of these sanctuary districts,

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which means they were on the same time as as

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Cisco and Basher just there in San Francisco and Picard

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and them, we're in Los Angeles. So everybody visits twenty

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twenty four? What is up with that year?

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All this tiny white stuff come on now?

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Yeah, it's kind of calling the mind. Like, I wonder

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if anybody ever do like a you know, whether it's

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comics or novelization or whatever, but get into this time

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bureau that's trying to keep everybody from screwing up the

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timelines like this.

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That's right, that's mentioned for the first time. Series, that's

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mentioned for the first time here. Yeah.

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Yeah, there's a bunch you could probably do with those

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stories as callbacks to this skut of stuff or whatever.

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So there's there's a department to handle that stuff. You know.

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I don't know why they've not gone that route, to

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be honest with you, because that could really open up

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some really cool stories.

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Exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean especially if you say, like, well,

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you know, because O'Brien takes a marker back with him

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and rates graffiti on the car that says invest in

466
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:51.519
whatever company apple. Yeah, but like if you know, kind

467
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.599
of the reason that that department exists has to be

468
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.160
because something got screwed up at some point right.

469
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:05.519
Current it Yeah, they're talking about that department. I'm sorry.

470
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.599
All right, David, you will bring us our fifth pick.

471
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.400
Heart of Stone Written by Robert Hewitt Wolf very busy guy,

472
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.759
by the way. In this season directed by Alexander Singer,

473
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.400
Kira and Odo are returning to Deep Space nine from

474
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.599
reviewing security procedures and a planet close to the Cardassian border.

475
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:25.480
On their return, they receive a distressed call from a

476
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.240
ship that was attacked by the Machi. They follow the

477
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.559
ship to a moon, where Kira becomes stock and begins

478
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.640
to be enveloped by a crystal. Odo rushes to figure

479
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.960
out how to save her. While on the station, Nog

480
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:38.839
had officially reached adulthood and must figure out soon what

481
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:43.559
he is to become and makes a shocking decision. Now,

482
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:45.799
we kind of talked a little bit earlier about the

483
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:50.519
claustrophobia stuff, because she has to go through some serious

484
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.359
stuff here for sure, encased in that crystal, I can

485
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.160
imagine what was going through her mind as she was

486
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.720
doing that, but I do We kind of briefly talked

487
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:04.400
about this off Mike the other day. This is one

488
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:08.400
of my favorite scenes in this this episode, and that's

489
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:13.559
between Cisco and Nog. The scene when what Nog wants

490
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:18.160
to do and Cisco's basically doesn't believe him and doesn't

491
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.480
trust him because he's not he's a ferringy, you know,

492
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:23.400
they just you know, they're all after the money, and

493
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.519
he doesn't believe what he wants to do, so Cisco

494
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.680
puts him to the test. To this episode and that

495
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.319
scene when Nog finally comes to him and asks him

496
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.200
and begs him to, you know, to do what he

497
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:35.920
wants to do, and I'm beating around the bus because

498
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.880
I don't want to ruin it for the listeners and

499
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.039
he can. Cisco basically confronts Nog here and you know,

500
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.160
tries to pull out those emotions, tries to pull out

501
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:49.640
the truth from Nog really what he's up to, and

502
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.279
Cisco comes to find out Nog isn't up to something.

503
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.799
It's truly what he wants and the reason why he

504
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.440
wants to do it is is very heartwarming and heartbreaking

505
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.599
at the same time because you know what his dad

506
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:09.160
Ram is going through with Quirk. You know, we all

507
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.000
know what that is like. And to see also what

508
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.240
Rahm does here to stand up against Quark for Nog

509
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:20.079
is incredible and it really this season really makes me

510
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.839
love Rom more than I've ever loved him his character.

511
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:28.839
But the scene between Cisco Nog was just absolutely outstanding

512
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.799
and is my favorite scene of this whole season.

513
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.599
Yeah, I love to see so just kind of looking

514
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.839
through some trivia that this is the actor who plays Nog,

515
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.400
Aaron Eisenberg rest in piece that this is one of

516
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.720
his all time favorite pieces that he's done, not only

517
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.240
from Das line but his entire acting career. And it

518
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:54.920
is clear to see why I say it pretty much

519
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.200
every season when we get home with these little recaps,

520
00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:59.839
I know that there are people that find the Farrengi

521
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.680
absolutely obnoxious and they lean into that. They see them

522
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.519
as you know, two dimensional and greedy. There's so much

523
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.960
more to see here, not that that's not central to

524
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:13.640
their society, but you get so much more this one.

525
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:18.960
I mean, in my opinion, this is a cornerstone of

526
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.839
the series. Yep, it's absolutely essential watching. I think if

527
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.960
you see nothing but the first two episodes and this one,

528
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:29.759
you will understand why you have to watch the rest

529
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.480
of this series because it's just, oh, there's so many

530
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.119
heartbreaking moments. Even the we get a little bit of

531
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:43.440
information about Odo's name and his his discussion of that

532
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.039
rips my heart out absolutely, And there are so many

533
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.720
of those moments, especially you know at the at the

534
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:57.240
end the resolution of this Nog Cisco storyline, what Nog

535
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.640
says about his father, it's just as a fire myself

536
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.519
is just like, oh my god, clutching my chest. Just

537
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.720
the acting in this cover to cover the the effect

538
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.000
the writing, yeah, is supreme. And when I knew that

539
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.559
we were going to talk about this series. This is

540
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:16.920
always what comes to mind, ye, And I was just like,

541
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.279
I cannot wait to talk about this episode that we

542
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:20.599
can't say a lot about because.

543
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.240
It's right boilery.

544
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.960
Now, yeah, that's the irony of this is this is

545
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.279
such a great episode. You got to go watch this one.

546
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.880
You know, it's it's not it's it's not a big episode.

547
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.880
I mean, there's no big battles or anything, because it's

548
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.240
it's a bottle episode. You know. They they spent so

549
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:36.960
much money doing in Past tense that they had to

550
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.880
save some money. But the performances are just incredible, and

551
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.400
that's what makes this episode so great. That's what what

552
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.400
pulls the episode in, you know, all all of them.

553
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.119
Nana Visitor of course, another great performance. Reneopistion was Odo.

554
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:55.599
He's he's so good in this episode, so so so dignified,

555
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.000
you know. And then of course I agree with both

556
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.920
with I think Nog's story, which is actually the b story,

557
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.759
is actually the best part of this episode of great.

558
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.599
You know, you know it could have been played for laughs,

559
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:11.480
you know with the frrangi and you expect that when

560
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.720
you get a Farringi, but this this isn't. This is

561
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.599
a major turning point for this character, and it's an

562
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:24.559
incredible performance. Aaron Eisenberg's just just so good, total different outlook.

563
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:26.720
You you come out of this episode looking at the

564
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.440
Farrangi differently, they're they're they're so good.

565
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.319
And when you get to the end of this episode

566
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.440
and you realize what Nog was after, you can go

567
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.319
back in the beginning when he first you know, comes

568
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.319
onto the ops and he wants to see Cisco, and

569
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.279
Cisco finally says, you know, let you know let him

570
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:48.200
in the look of glee on his face when he's

571
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.000
getting to get to go see Cisco. That that right

572
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.079
there just shows you what incredible performance here.

573
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:59.920
H Well, it bears mentioning how Jake fits into this set,

574
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.000
right You've got two best friends and this you know,

575
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:08.839
Nog never getting the approval of his friend's father and

576
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.200
feeling that he always has to chase that and feeling

577
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.799
like he's not getting a lot of respect. So his

578
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.119
passion for his diligence in pursuing that is amazing. But

579
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.839
then the performance between Jake and Nog is also very

580
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.279
very revealing in a lot of growth for kids at

581
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.599
that age to come to that point in their lives.

582
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.720
So yeah, don't miss this one at all.

583
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.200
All right, Scott, the sixth one is yours.

584
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.640
So this one is Through the Looking Glass, written by

585
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.720
Ira Stephen Beer and Robert Hewitt Wolfe. I got through

586
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:49.240
it see, directed by uh Winrich Colby. So Cisco is

587
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.400
kidnapped and taken into the Mirror universe, where his counter

588
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.720
part was recently killed in a shuttle explosion. He's needed

589
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.920
by the rebellion against the Klingon Cardassian Alliance because his

590
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.319
counter part, because the counterpart of his wife, Jennifer, has

591
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.279
a pivotal role. If Cisco can convince her to help

592
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.839
the rebellion, he'll be sent back to his own universe.

593
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.559
If not, he'll die along with the rest of the

594
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.359
rebellion and eliminate any resistance to the Alliance. It's an

595
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.200
exciting follow up to last season and an emotional story

596
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.000
I would say for Cisco. I hope I'm not spoiling

597
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.920
too much with that overview, but it's hard not to like.

598
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.440
It's after the first ten minutes, a lot of that happens,

599
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.720
but it's it's interesting that they chose to have an

600
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.200
episode that features his wife because it feels like in

601
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.759
the beginning of the series they tried to say, three

602
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.720
years later, we're helping you get through that, right to

603
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.200
help heal from that. This one just feels it just

604
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.640
like rips that scar wide back open.

605
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.599
I think that's why they did that. Think you had

606
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:54.359
a right spot on.

607
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.400
And it's interesting that they had a little bit of

608
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.240
comedy at the beginning of this episode with the goal

609
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.920
fighting that they were talking to court like, why why

610
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:12.199
are they all individually numbered? Well, we were recounting them.

611
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.320
A question for you, Wayne, and you might be talking

612
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.719
about this. Where does this fit into the Voyager timeline?

613
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.280
Okay, this takes place well, I mean, it doesn't take

614
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.320
place at all in the Mirror universe, but the rest

615
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.119
of it is pretty much right after Voyager was sent

616
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:35.239
to the to the Delta Quadrants. In effects the two episodes, Okay,

617
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.400
when we were talking about Past Tense, Past Tense is

618
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.440
the last story that takes place before Voyager was sent

619
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.920
to the to the Delta Quadrant. So this one is

620
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.960
actually after gotcha.

621
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.559
Okay, so Voyager was running at this point.

622
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.960
Right there They're lost. Okay, yeah, so it was running yeah,

623
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.400
by I think three weeks now. Yeah, okay, which is

624
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.039
a surprise. We saw Tim Russ in it, you know, yeah, yeah,

625
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:05.599
even though it's such a small part.

626
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.760
He's yeah, but he's you know, given a prominent, recognizable part.

627
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.480
So it was just an interesting connection here.

628
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.480
He wasn't calming the desert anymore.

629
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.280
Yeah, he will be soon again from what.

630
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:22.199
I can't wait.

631
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.320
You know, I like this episode that I always like

632
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:30.119
the Mere Universe episodes. It actually when this first aired,

633
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.760
it really surprised me that they went back to this.

634
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:33.800
I was expecting the last one to be a one

635
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.400
and done thing, but uh, it just it gives the

636
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.840
characters a chance to do something different, you know, we

637
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.119
see it. We see Avery Brooks and Nana Visitor playing

638
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.079
you know, having fun with their parts and playing their

639
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.480
their characters different or a freer, a darker version of it.

640
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.320
I kind of like that. I think it's it's it's

641
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.159
kind of neat, you know. You know, we see a

642
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.519
lot back then. I mean, this was the first time

643
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.440
deep Space and I was the first time we really

644
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.039
revisited the Mere Universe. You know, now after Discovery and

645
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.239
all that, I probably go not again. You know, it

646
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.960
was still fresh back then, and that's why I appreciate it.

647
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:07.360
Yep.

648
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.400
Absolutely, there's there's probably a pause moment for for new

649
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.320
viewers or people who are coming back to it. I

650
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.400
imagine if we were in a room watching this together,

651
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:25.079
the meeting between Cisco and Dax in the Mirror universe

652
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.280
and the moment that they share, I feel like that

653
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.440
would be a hold up. Let's talk about that for

654
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.800
a bit. Yeah, we're not gonna talk about it here.

655
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.840
But it did make me think, like, did I just

656
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:40.679
see okay? Really? Yeah, okay, don't I don't know about that,

657
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:41.079
but all.

658
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:45.760
Right, sure, Oh hey, look we got another two parts

659
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.239
are coming up. Shocker Daven, why don't you tell us

660
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:50.000
about that one?

661
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:51.679
And the first time it start treking? There are two

662
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.760
different titles. They're not part one part two, right, it's

663
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.719
very confused that if you're not careful, I'm gonna break

664
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.159
these up at the two to just bear with me.

665
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.599
So and Probably is the first episode, written by Renee

666
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:08.239
Echeveria and Robert Liederman and directed by Avery Brooks. Grek's

667
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.159
shop has an impromptu fire sale when it explodes, It

668
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.480
is fortunate for Gerrit that he survives, and of course,

669
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.519
Odo quickly expects foul play. And begins an investigation. Garrick

670
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:23.079
refuses to cooperate, which infuriates Odo. Evidence is uncovered which

671
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.199
leads Odo to a Flaxen who recently arrived onto the station.

672
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.119
Odo interrogates him, but as he digs deeper, the alien

673
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.760
ship explode, which now forces the investigation into another direction,

674
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:36.199
one that Odo realizes with some help that makes him

675
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.400
see that he has only uncovered a small piece of

676
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.400
a very much larger huzzle to the second episode, The

677
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.760
Die Is Cast, written by Ronald Y Moore and Robert

678
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.280
Hewitt Wolfe, directed by David Livingstone, and the second part

679
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.920
to Improbable Calls. Deep Space nine finds itself being approached

680
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.280
by Romulin and Cardassian Fleet. Cisco readies for a fight,

681
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.480
but to his surprise, they passed the station and goes

682
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.920
through the wormhole on the way to the game Maquadrant.

683
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.440
Cisco goes after Start, goes against Starfleet to orders and

684
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.320
quickly follows after them. Meanwhile, on one of the ships

685
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.920
within the fleet, Odo is being held against his wishes,

686
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.679
unable to change form and begins to be interrogated by

687
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.440
someone he thought he knew. This and more will all

688
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.719
come to a very explosive conclusion that will continue to

689
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.320
ripple across the star systems, that will further the danger

690
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:27.000
surrounding Deep Space nine. So we talked about Garrick before

691
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.599
and that how his character really gets a lot of

692
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.280
exposure in this season, and this two parter is one

693
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.599
of those for sure. Yeah, we get to really see

694
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.239
Garrick who Grek really was before we got to know him,

695
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.639
who you know, the rumors, the stories we heard about Gerrick.

696
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.960
We get to see him here be that person. And

697
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.119
you know, I don't want to give way too much.

698
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.199
You guys know what I'm talking about, but you get

699
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:55.760
to see that side of him that you know, we

700
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:58.840
haven't really got to see before. And this two parter

701
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.119
is it is really big, and you know, the battle

702
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.239
that happens at the end towards the end of the

703
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.400
second episode is huge. You know, we don't get to

704
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.199
see a lot of dog fighting in Star Trek. You

705
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.440
get to see these big ships just dooking it out

706
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.400
back and forth, you know, torpedoes, photo torpedoes and fass

707
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.199
this you actually get to see a lot of you know,

708
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:19.519
some dog fighting going on and some ships getting blown

709
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.119
up and move, you know, weaving in and out. I

710
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.800
thought that was fantastic, something you don't see in Star

711
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:25.960
Trek ye.

712
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.840
And I think it's one of the things that I

713
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.719
love most about DS nine, even though I know there's

714
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.039
different opinions about like how much fighting there should be

715
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:39.079
on on the series, but I think it's just so

716
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.719
well choreographed and so well done, and it feels just

717
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.840
so compelling to watch. I think it raises the stakes,

718
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.519
it makes things seem more dangerous, and I just think

719
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.960
it's another aspect of this that just I think it's

720
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.559
a more interesting element for new reviewers, right who might

721
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.559
be looking for something else on the Star Trek show.

722
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.119
Well, you're you're starting to see the stakes get hired.

723
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.280
You know, as the season's gold go along and as

724
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.000
we know what's coming, you know, the stakes are getting

725
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.480
higher for our crew and for what's going on in

726
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.039
this area. So you know, this is just the tip

727
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:18.400
of the iceberg of what's to come.

728
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.719
Yeah, Now I got a question because I didn't I

729
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.079
didn't do the research on this. Was this Avery Brooks

730
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.360
first time he directed? I don't remember seeing his name.

731
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:27.960
It is his first one. Okay, I know he'll go

732
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.400
on to direct some more. But he did a great job.

733
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.800
Oh yeah, he had a really good job. I guess

734
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.920
he's going to be the Jonathan Frakes of The Deep

735
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:39.159
Space nine become a director. Nothing wrong with that, iron

736
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.719
This this episode was phenomenal when it first aired. It

737
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.320
blew me away and it had that that motion picture

738
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.559
feel to it. And I think a lot of that

739
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.159
comes from Dennis McCarthy's score though, And I want to

740
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.360
point that out because you can definitely tell that this

741
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.760
is post generations because he's it has that sound. Yep,

742
00:40:57.920 --> 00:40:59.400
it definitely has the sound that he brought to that

743
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:01.719
that film. It's it's a wonderful score and it's been

744
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.480
released to It's on the volume one from Wala Land

745
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:05.840
if you ever want to want to hear it or

746
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.880
get it. But great episode, good return to We got

747
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.199
Paul Dooley again returning from last season. Yep, yep, my

748
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:19.760
guy from alf. But just this season is full of

749
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.840
a lot of really good, good episodes and this is

750
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:24.719
one of the top.

751
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.000
Ones for me. It's there. You're really getting to see

752
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.920
these characters getting developed big time this season. And you

753
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.000
know what this this was only supposed to be one part, right,

754
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.760
It was originally just one episode, but the ending of

755
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.239
the first episode was kind of weak, so they decided

756
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.960
to expand this and turn it into a two parter

757
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:45.440
because they went ahead and filmed another episode after that.

758
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.159
That's why the first one and then they had to

759
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:48.840
go back and shoot the second episode.

760
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.079
Yeah, that's why it doesn't have a part one part two.

761
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.960
On it that, yep, which is kind of interesting. All

762
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.039
I got to say is poor Bishar's pants.

763
00:41:56.039 --> 00:42:03.760
Oh man, the like oh crimea river? Right, this is

764
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.599
hard to talk about. Again. I think the ending of

765
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.880
the first episode and Probable Cause is very intriguing, and

766
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.000
I think the dia is cast as a follow up

767
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.519
to that ending is very unexpected because when I was

768
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.239
watching this episode, I was like, oh, yeah, so this

769
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.079
character is going to go in this direction and we're

770
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.079
going to see this kind of trope and whatever. It

771
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.199
surprises you in a lot of ways, and the Garrick's

772
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.440
character goes in directions that you don't necessarily expect, which

773
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.840
makes him a little hard to trust. At the same time,

774
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.320
you can see where he's conflicted, so it's not you're

775
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.840
not quite ready to dismiss him. It's it's just another

776
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.880
level of understanding. And I think it's it's a it's

777
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.880
a bold move, but I'm glad that they did it.

778
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.880
We're also focusing a lot on Odo this season, and

779
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:01.440
my god, you feel for Odo oh so much in

780
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.960
this episode. His the makeup in this with out spoiling

781
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:06.960
things is so.

782
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.039
Painful to whoa it is.

783
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.440
Yeah, it is surprisingly painful. And just to think about

784
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.320
what you had mentioned, Dave in your overview, what happens

785
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.320
to him in this episode, it's I think essential viewing

786
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.199
to show because you know, if you're interested in his species,

787
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.519
it's essential to understanding it.

788
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.880
Agreed, without question.

789
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:39.119
All right, let's pause once again for station identification. Welcome

790
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.880
back to Deep Space nine starter treks. We've given you

791
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.119
the first seven of our picks, and I have number eight,

792
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.800
which is Family Business, written by Ears Stephen Bear and

793
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.440
Robert Hewitt Wolf and directed by Renee abu jan Wa.

794
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.599
Pork is summoned back to Ferengar after the Ringy Commerce

795
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.599
Authority charges his mother, Hiska, with the crime of earning

796
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.559
prophet something forbidden to Ferringi females. Accompanied by his brother Ram,

797
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:11.719
Pork tries to force It'ska to confess and return her profits,

798
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.920
only to discover she's a shrewd and successful business woman

799
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.800
who refuses to submit to sexist laws. Their heated family

800
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.840
conflict exposes a strained relationship between mother and sons, as

801
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.880
well as revealed the different values Quirk and rom hold.

802
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.760
I thought to have this episode on on the list too,

803
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.400
because I like these. I like the FARRINGI episodes, and

804
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:36.239
I think this one's a damn good one and an

805
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:40.039
important one, mainly because we got we got some first

806
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.679
appearances here that are important to the series. Of course,

807
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.440
we got Ishka played by the wonderful Andrea Martin from SCTV.

808
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.840
I love her moogie.

809
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.239
I could see that it was her through the makeup

810
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.920
and it was absolute delight in every we'll see.

811
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.360
Yeah, she's so wonderful. And we've got uh, we got

812
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:08.639
the appearance of Liquidator Brunt, played by the Jeffrey Colmes,

813
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.559
who's played pretty much every alien in every series there is.

814
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.679
And then finally we've got who will become a very

815
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:18.599
important character to keep your eyes on. That's Cassidy Yates

816
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.480
played by Penny Johnson. You know, like I said, I

817
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.599
don't want to reveal too much about her, Just keep

818
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.119
your eyes, keep your eyes on her. She'll become very important.

819
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.840
But this, this is this is a fun episode. It

820
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.559
really really expands uh, the culture, the depth of the

821
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.559
Faringhi while you know, introducing one of the most in

822
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.280
my opinion, the most memorable characters of the of the

823
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:46.719
series in Ishka and armand Sherman. He is fantastic in

824
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.880
this episode. You know, he's so conflicted. You know, he's

825
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.519
he's a businessman, and he he follows the Farringi rules

826
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.519
of acquisition and their their laws so strict. But you know,

827
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:58.840
this is his mother, this is Moogie, and and he's

828
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.800
not really sure what he wants, What's what he's going

829
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:01.119
to do.

830
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.920
You know, this is such a good episode, but man

831
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:06.159
is it weird and.

832
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.639
Very uncomfortable in a couple of spots. Yeah, and you

833
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.079
know you got to give it to Andrea Martin for saying, like,

834
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.800
all right, this is what I have to do.

835
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.079
Oh oh yeah, there the hours in the makeup chair.

836
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:24.840
She's a trooper.

837
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:26.519
Absolutely.

838
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:30.360
There's also another important thing to talk about, but I'm

839
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:31.679
not going to mention it unless you give me a

840
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.920
strip of latinum. If you're a fan of Lower Decks

841
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.039
and you've seen the Ferrangi episodes where you see the

842
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.920
Frangi homeworld. I think this is very much integral to

843
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:48.599
that DNA, Like, yes, is it spoiling anything? If I

844
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:54.199
talk about the office that he goes into. No, there's

845
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.119
there's like cash machines all over the place, and that

846
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.599
is like, well, if you want that chair, it's two

847
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.920
strips of latinum. If you want to stand, it's one

848
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.199
strip of latinum or something like that. Like every single

849
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.559
thing in that society costs money. So yeah, I mean, like,

850
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:16.000
how do you walk around without sounding like you have

851
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.800
like three sets of spurs on, like with all the

852
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.920
latinum that has the jingle jangle in your pockets.

853
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.000
It kind of reminds you going to a sci fi convention,

854
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:29.599
you know exactly, Yeah, except it's it's got to be

855
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:33.960
the most miserable vacation spot ever. It is always raining there,

856
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.239
always raining, always raining, you know.

857
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.920
I do I do want to call out Penny Johnson

858
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.760
to Penny Johnson Gerald because remember she played Claire Finn

859
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:42.280
in The Orble.

860
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:44.639
I do remember love that series.

861
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.519
Yep, orb is fantastic.

862
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.360
So yes, all right, Scott, give us the honor of

863
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.039
telling us about number nine.

864
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.239
Oh it Explorers. This one took me by surprise story

865
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:01.199
by Hillary J. Bader and directed by Cliff Bowl. This

866
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.280
is where the Beard first appeared. So happy to see

867
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.400
that Cisco not only grows a goat tea, he builds

868
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:13.760
plans to recreate history. This fun bottled episode finds him

869
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.440
rebuilding a Bajoran's solar sail ship that navigated the stars

870
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.360
while humans were still sailing the seas. His plan seeks

871
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.000
to him to prove that ancient Bajorans were able to

872
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.760
travel from Baijor to Cardassia with the ship without warp drive,

873
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.800
which he pilots with his son Jake. This trip brings

874
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.960
them closer together and vindicates a story often dismissed as

875
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.400
impossible by Cardassians. Back on the station, we get an

876
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.440
introduction to an important dab, a girl named Belita, and

877
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.920
we also see doctor Sheer doctor Bashir face some embarrassing

878
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:48.079
history as a former competitor visits the station. When I

879
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.239
first saw the description of this episode, I didn't have

880
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.880
very high expectations. I was like, well, I don't know,

881
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.719
it doesn't seem like it's gonna drive that much, but wow,

882
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:02.119
is it important to Jake? And and I would say

883
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.119
some some growth that we see from.

884
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:10.800
Ducat Character Development shoot, character development, and I love me

885
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:12.719
some DA, so I'm excited to see her.

886
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.280
There's another character introduced that you've got to keep your

887
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.000
eye on or she's going to come very important to

888
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:19.880
the series. A lot lots of introductions this season.

889
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.559
Matter of fact, I'm looking I'm looking at Chief Masters

890
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:23.920
and photograph right now, right in front.

891
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:30.000
What you're looking up at. I was like, yeah, roof leaking. Yeah, no,

892
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.440
I mean, like, you know, there's I feel like the

893
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.679
design of the Solar Sales ship was very cool. It

894
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:43.079
was reminiscent of draw and I think and the the

895
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.960
care that I think they took into designing this ship

896
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.840
to make it very manual. You know, there's no keypads,

897
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:55.679
there's no electronics really on this thing, lots of cranks

898
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.679
and they have to fly with the air that they.

899
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.159
Need to breathe.

900
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.440
Like, yeah, it's just very very interesting episode, very important

901
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:10.840
for Jake and Cisco. I'd say semi important from Bashir,

902
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.960
like the sad episode seems like it's it's good, probably

903
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:20.920
not as important, but just fantastic performances all around.

904
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.480
Come on, O'Brien, be here. Drunk theme that was.

905
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.280
Yeah, Yeah, that's true, that's a good run singing yeah

906
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:28.760
when when o Brian LiTi goes.

907
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:33.360
I really do not hate you anymore? Right, yeah?

908
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.800
And the visual effects are really impressive in this episode.

909
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:41.320
That light shit is completely done in CGI, which is

910
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:43.159
a first for the series. You know, the company that

911
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.280
does the visual effects for d Space nine, which is

912
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.960
an image g they really weren't set up for CGI

913
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.079
of that extent, so they had ended up having to

914
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.719
go back to Industrial Light and Magic, and John Nolan

915
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.360
himself created the light ship and the computer model for it.

916
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.320
It's obvious, it's very, very impressive, and it's a great episode.

917
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.280
I'm glad you guys chose this one. So I love this.

918
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.880
I remember when it first aired, I was impressed with him. Yeah,

919
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:12.480
all right, David is going to close out the season

920
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:13.760
with episode ten.

921
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.639
And that, of course is the season finale. The Adversary

922
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:21.480
written by Robert Hewitt, Wolf directed by Alexander Singer, and

923
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.599
the season finale, Cisco finally receives a well deserved promotion,

924
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.800
but just as the celebration settles down, he O'Brien and

925
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.760
others take the Defiant to Thin Kathy's space, when suddenly

926
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.519
the ship starts to have problems. O'Brien hears strange sounds

927
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.239
around the ship, and mishaps begin to occur, making Cisco

928
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.519
believe someone on board is causing sabotage. Someone or something

929
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:44.440
on the ship is not who they appear to be,

930
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.360
forcing Cisco to gather the staff and find out who

931
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.440
exactly it is. To their surprise, it is quickly discovered

932
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.880
and it isn't long until their plan is revealed, which

933
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.559
could potentially cause a war between the Federation and this

934
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.119
in Kathy, in the fashion of John Carpenter's The Thing,

935
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.079
the Crew, you try to find out who exactly is

936
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:07.199
who and capture the impostor before it is too late. Yeah,

937
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.920
I mean, this is the Thing all over again, and

938
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.440
it's done really well, you know, even down to the

939
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.840
testing of the blood and stuff like that. This was

940
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.360
a really unique episode, to be honest with you, because

941
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.800
you're you're adding more dimension to some of the stuff

942
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.760
that we've already experienced in this season. And I don't

943
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.159
want to give away too much, you know, and but

944
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.119
you this is not what you would think to be

945
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.639
one of those gigantic battle epic conclusions to a season. Okay,

946
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.840
but it does have a good story to it. That

947
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.320
has a lot of what is on the horizon for

948
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.679
Deep Space nine in this episode, and I think it

949
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.960
was an incredible season finale to be honest with him.

950
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.119
You know, you're getting more ODO stuff, you know, because

951
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.280
we've had a ton of that throughout this season. You know,

952
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:57.960
you get a lot of the crew here on the Defiant.

953
00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:59.559
You get to see more of the Defiant than we've

954
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.480
ever seen for right, we can see some rooms in

955
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.960
engineering and stuff that we've never seen before. So we're

956
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.320
already getting more sets when it comes to Defiant. So

957
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:10.400
a lot really happens in this episode. Even though it

958
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.519
seems small and contained, it really.

959
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.800
Isn't I that this was go ahead? Oh no, I

960
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.840
was just gonna say that I found myself surprised to

961
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:25.719
see Eddington in some of the scenes me too, true,

962
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.840
just surprised given some of the events, which I can't

963
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.840
say with that spoiling anything, but it's it's definitely something

964
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.239
that I think will be thought provoking to people that

965
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.519
are watching this for the first time. I think it's

966
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:45.119
absolutely an episode worth watching twice because you'll you'll want

967
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.920
to see where you where you think certain things have changed,

968
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.000
or you'll want to see where you some thinks of

969
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:56.599
your guesses were wrong, has big consequences for one character

970
00:53:56.679 --> 00:54:02.320
in particular, and pretty chilling line of dialogue. I will

971
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.039
say to the end of the episode, something that's whispered,

972
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.800
which is right when you want to watch this episode

973
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:13.519
all over again. There's one scene in particular where one

974
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:15.920
character does a bit of slight of hand. You can

975
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.519
kind of tell that they are. But then when you

976
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.559
see how things resolve, and when you go further into

977
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.400
the series, you'll want to watch this one all over

978
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.519
again to see if there was a lot more happening.

979
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.639
So, if I remember correctly, there's an episode of season

980
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.639
five that comes back to stuff that happens in this episode.

981
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:37.960
Is that Is that correct?

982
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.079
I feel like that's right.

983
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.000
Okay, yeah, all.

984
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.320
Right, yeah yeah. This This was going to originally be

985
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.639
a cliffhanger were they were planning on doing a cliffhanger,

986
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.920
but for some reason, Paramount came to them and said, Nope, nope,

987
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.679
don't do that. Nobody knows the reason why Paramount said no,

988
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.239
but they veted. It ended up moving that the story

989
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.719
that they had originally written for next season. The next

990
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.960
season is two parter, so we got this episode, and

991
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.960
I think, in my opinion, it's probably better. It's no,

992
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.039
not probably, it definitely is better. It's a it's a

993
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.480
much better ending. I'm glad that they didn't go with

994
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.559
cliffhangers like they did with the Next Generation. It gives

995
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.239
deep space to sign a different feel, a different style, but

996
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.760
it allows them this ominous endings without having the to

997
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.599
be continued at the end, you know, leaving you wanting

998
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.960
more at the end in this episode more than any

999
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.000
of them have really let you want more. You can't

1000
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:31.880
wait to see what happens for season four.

1001
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.199
Yeah, well, it feels like it makes sense to say,

1002
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:40.599
like we're already running with pretty long development marks. We're

1003
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.960
having a lot of two and three partners in this.

1004
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.199
Let's kind of spare people from the fatigue of saying like,

1005
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.920
I've got to wait like a whole a few months

1006
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.800
at least before I can see a resolution. Feels like

1007
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:52.719
that we get kind of tiring.

1008
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.800
But yeah, and now, of course, with every season, not

1009
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.360
every episode turns out to be the classic Star Trek

1010
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.639
hit that we all love. Sometimes an episode may not

1011
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.679
work either. It's the script that's lackluster and boring. The

1012
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.159
actor wouldn't or the ethics looks like something straight out

1013
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.639
of the original series. These are the episodes to skip

1014
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:15.119
our dishonorable mentions, David, I'll have you go first.

1015
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:19.159
You know, it pains me to pick this one because

1016
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.719
it is directed by the amazing Jonathan Freakes, and of

1017
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:27.239
course I'm going with episode eight Meridian. Cisco wants to

1018
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.400
explore the Gamma Quander, so they find an area of

1019
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.159
void of planets until they find one, call it Meridian.

1020
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.800
It is here get Sea falls in love with a

1021
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.840
scientist on a planet whose inhabitants shift between this universe

1022
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.599
and a plane of pure energy every like sixty years,

1023
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.039
I think it is. We also see an alien on

1024
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.760
DS nine named Tyrann that is trying to romanticize Kira

1025
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:50.400
and it ends up request a hollow suit of her

1026
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:51.400
from Quirk.

1027
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:56.599
Yuck yuck norins Rinse, Rinse.

1028
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.519
No, thank you, avoid this episode.

1029
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.440
I agree, that's that was That was my pick as well.

1030
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:09.760
The star Trek Brigadoon. Not a big fan. I think

1031
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.519
it's interesting to I forget what episode it is, but

1032
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.400
there's an episode of Lower Decks where they kind of

1033
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:24.199
uh ras on this one a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Wayne,

1034
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:24.800
what about.

1035
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.519
You, well, I think I'll make a unanimous and you know,

1036
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:32.679
like you said, I understand what they're trying to do.

1037
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.000
They were trying to do a Star Trek version of brigadoone,

1038
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:40.800
but that romance element with Jed, Zia and Durell, it

1039
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.880
just doesn't work for me. H. Terry Farrell is a

1040
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:47.039
fantastic actors. So the fault isn't hers. It must lie

1041
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:48.760
in the script, in the directing and I and that's

1042
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.039
where I place it. It's you know, it's the whole

1043
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.159
episode is all talk, talk, talk, and there's no really

1044
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:56.760
no action for forty five minutes. But the story is

1045
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.599
so obvious. You know, there's no peril because we know

1046
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.519
Jed's he is going to return to the station. She's

1047
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:03.119
not going to fall in love and stay there. We

1048
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:04.599
know that's going to you know what happened. And I'm

1049
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.159
not a big fan of episodes that do this. You know,

1050
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:11.480
Deep Space nine does do romantic episodes good, but so

1051
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.119
far in the last three seasons, we've all picked the

1052
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:18.360
romantic episodes as being some of the worst. And then there's,

1053
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:23.840
of course that's there's the quarks Hollow Sweet Program. It's hilarious,

1054
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:26.039
but it's it's creepy. It is.

1055
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:26.840
Yeah.

1056
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:31.360
No, I feel like there's bottle episodes and there's candle episodes,

1057
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:31.920
and this is.

1058
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.559
Definitely a candle light candle episode. I know that reference

1059
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:41.280
to you. And finally, for every season, we place the

1060
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.360
spotlight on one character and give our favorite moments. For

1061
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.360
season three, our light is shown on the station's very

1062
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:51.599
own Constable Odo Scott. What's your favorite Odo moment this season?

1063
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.119
It is so hard to pick it is and at

1064
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.599
the same time very easy for me because I would

1065
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:07.400
say Heart of Stone, the moment when Odo figures out

1066
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:14.000
the mystery of this episode. The range of acting that

1067
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:19.599
Renee is able to provide through all that prosthesis is astonishing,

1068
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.639
and what he and the writers have done with this character,

1069
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:29.119
it's nothing short of amazing. I think Heart of Stone

1070
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:33.480
is one that bears watching a second time as soon

1071
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.679
as you finish it, to try if you can see

1072
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.840
if you can figure it certain things out, but also

1073
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.119
just Renee's performance in it is definitely worth a rewatch.

1074
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.320
That's my pick, Dave, What about you? So?

1075
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.159
I told her you, guys, I had picked two of

1076
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:49.320
them because I knew this was going to happen that

1077
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.239
was My first pick was Heart of Stone. It was

1078
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.840
just his line where he says, how meeting Kiera Crew

1079
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:57.920
and even Quirk, he is no longer nothing he thinks

1080
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.960
of me. Now, that was just absolutely amazing, Scott. Since

1081
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.320
you've got to kind of pick that, I'm gonna I'll

1082
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:06.079
go with another one, just to just to be different.

1083
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:10.760
So I'm gonna go with the Search part two. When

1084
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.639
I don't know how I can say this without giving

1085
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:14.559
anything away.

1086
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:21.159
Let's let's say just five four three two one. There's

1087
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.159
gonna be a spoiler. Just deal with it and come

1088
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:24.840
back in fifteen seconds.

1089
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.920
So when he realizes he is home and even says it,

1090
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.199
the smile and the joy we get to see on

1091
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:38.880
his face, Yeah, the pure happiness on him just sets

1092
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:43.159
just just just warms your heart because you don't really

1093
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:47.679
have never seen that from Odo, that that smile, Yeah,

1094
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:52.239
and to see that then and there just man, it

1095
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.199
just makes you feel so good for him. Then, of

1096
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.440
course all the crap hits the fan, of course, but still,

1097
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.519
it was that moment that really, you know, this is

1098
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:01.920
a great Odo moment.

1099
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.000
It's childlike, it is right like, and it's genuine like.

1100
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.679
It doesn't it's oh, and when you when you see

1101
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:15.079
all the rest that he goes through after that, mm hmm, yeah,

1102
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.639
it was. It was a it was a pleasure to see.

1103
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.079
So I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned that moment.

1104
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.360
You know, Wayne, what about you, I'm going to choose

1105
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.400
something different, but I love both your choices, and in

1106
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:27.920
fact I considered both of those. But in order not

1107
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:29.880
to spoil anything from the episode, I'm going to keep

1108
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.880
this down to like one specific scene and it's from

1109
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.679
the Day is cast, and it's when Odo is being

1110
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:39.440
interrogated by Garrick. You know, Grek has that device that

1111
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.480
keeps Odo from shape shifting, and he begins to waste

1112
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.920
away and peel away like little pieces or something, and

1113
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.480
Gerrek is just he's so frustrated that Odo is not talking,

1114
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:50.360
and he gets down on his knees and he yells,

1115
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.679
you know, tell me something anything, you know, lie if

1116
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.920
you don't, if you have to, but just say something please,

1117
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:57.159
And Odo, you know, comes back to him says, home,

1118
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.599
I want to go home. But he's not talking about

1119
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.719
Deep Space nine. He's he's talking about three Link and

1120
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.920
and just the the the the anguish that the sadness

1121
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:11.480
in uh Odo in rene opvision VA's eyes. Just it

1122
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.880
makes that seem so powerful because Odo and Garrick are

1123
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.480
like polar opposites, you know, they're They're both different, so

1124
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:23.119
different and intellects so different in their morals. But that

1125
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.599
makes every scene in this episode between the two and them,

1126
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.840
I'm just so tense. It's just an incredible character moment

1127
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.320
for Odo and an incredible performance. And that's why I

1128
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:33.639
chose that.

1129
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:38.559
That is an amazing That is an amazing pick. Yeah,

1130
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.000
especially what you said about home, Like you think in

1131
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.159
that moment you want to be in a place of

1132
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:50.480
comfort that you've always known, you would think, right. The

1133
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.519
fact that he doesn't do that, and that he longs

1134
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.199
for a home that he still doesn't know all that

1135
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.239
well is are you telling? And very heartbreaking? He says,

1136
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.519
I would give up everything that I know to be

1137
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.840
in this place that I've never known. That's wow, that's

1138
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:11.400
a heavy hit.

1139
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.519
It is a lot of good order moments in the season.

1140
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.159
Yes, there are, and there you have it. Our top

1141
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.480
ten episodes Starter Trek Choices from the third season of

1142
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.719
Star Trek Deep Space nine. We'd like to open a

1143
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.239
channel to our listeners and hear just what you thought

1144
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.280
about our choices and the season in general. You can

1145
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:33.559
email us at a Film by Podcasts at gmail dot com,

1146
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.639
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1147
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:40.280
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1148
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.880
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1149
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.519
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1150
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.360
big thank you once again to my fellow trekkers David

1151
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:51.760
and Scott for joining me through the wormhole once again.

1152
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:53.239
Yeap.

1153
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.679
Likewise, next episode, we'll give you our top ten episodes

1154
01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:01.360
from season four, a season full of new friends, returning characters,

1155
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:07.199
and Cisco's bald head. We look forward to returning to

1156
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.880
Deep Space nine and to you our listeners on the

1157
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:17.880
next episode of Phasers. Set to Stunt written by Robert

1158
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:21.719
Whoittt World written by Robert who witt War I cannot

1159
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:22.360
say his name.

1160
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:26.679
It's not Warf, It's war Wolf.