Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 5

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
Phasers Set to Stun, where we continue

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as always is your Core Trek crew. I'm David Burns, I'm Skot Hoffmann,

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and I'm Wayne White. In this
episode, we continue our discussion and

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what we like to call Starter Trek. A curated episode list for the first

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time of yours. This spoiler free
list focuses on the top ten episodes for

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each season. After listening to this
episode, you can find the course we're

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plumbing for you with our list in
the description. Hello, gentlemen, I

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cannot believe we are on season five
of the Next Generation already. Yeah,

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it's hard to believe it's flying by, but it is. It's it's getting

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so much better. Yeah. Yeah, we're getting to relive these episodes.

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Man, it's just it's so exciting
to do it and get to talk about

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them as well. But you know, we'll get moving on along here our

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top ten list, But first let's
talk about the continuing story. Where Season

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four left us off with Redemption Part
two. I felt this second part was

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a letdown. I now I agree
with you. I mean, it's not

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a bad episode, but after last
season's best of both the worlds, it

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just didn't quite have the flash and
bang like that episode did. But it's

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still worth watching. I mean,
it's a very important episode, not just

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to the Next Generation, but to
like Deep Space nine. If you're just

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starting watching Star Trek with this series
and want to continue on, you need

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to see this episode. I completely
agree. And you know, with today's

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budgets and the way they make shows, this episode probably would have been a

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whole lot better. I'm sure there
were some budget constraints that they had to

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worry about. Of course, we
know that plagued the Next Generation a lot

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as it was going through the years, even though we got great scripts because

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of it. Yeah, I feel
like it just the letdown that we got

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with. We were expecting this big
build up and then it just never really

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happened. I agree that it's not
as big as previous Cliff Hangar resolutions have

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been. I found it still satisfying. I wouldn't say it's one of the

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best ever. All right, well, gentlemen, if you guys are read,

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let's go ahead and start talking about
our top ten. And I want

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to also point out too before we
do start our top ten is this aired

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during the twenty fifth anniversary of Star
Trek. So oh, yeah, you

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know, this was an important season. A lot of great stuff and some

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bad stuff happened this year. And
I know during this and I'm sure we'll

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be talking about a little bit later, but I know the Undiscovered Country came

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out during this season. Yes,
sure, right, yeah, so we'll

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be talking about that, but I'm
sure. All right, so we're going

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to start talking about our top ten. Of course, these are not in

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order as our favorites. These are
in order as they were released. And

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what we think we feel are the
top ten episodes of season five that you

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should watch. Wayne, Why don't
you get a started with number one and

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our first one is the second episode
of the season Darmock, written by Joe

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Minowski and Philip Lezebnik, directed by
Winrich Colby. This originally aired on September

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thirtieth, nineteen ninety one. The
Enterprise mixed contact with the Tamerian ship,

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a race that the Federation previously had
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their strange and almost poetic like language. Out of their frustration to understand one

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another, the Tamerian captain transports himself
and Captain Picard to the planet's surface,

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hoping that a combined struggle and shared
danger will help the two races learn this.

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This This is a great episode.
This is one of the most memorable

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episodes of the entire series. You'll
hear a lot of people quote this episode.

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It comes back later in like Lower
Decks. It's just absolutely phenomenal,

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and it's amazing because it took two
years to get this episode made. This

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is the writer of Philip le Zebnik. He wrote an original script. You

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know, he's a great writer.
He went on to write Pocahontas and Mulan

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for Disney. But it was a
struggle behind the scenes to get this made

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because Michael Pillar liked it, but
Rick Berman hated it. Fortunately they were

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able to do some rewriting, get
to everybody on board, and you know,

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they got around finally making it and
it's it's no uh, there's no

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question that they took some inspiration from
dancers with wolves on this one, and

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in my opinion, it's it's that's
pretty obvious. Yeah, that's interesting.

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Yeah, and I will say uh, and I'm gonna say this now,

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and I know our producer Jeff Johnson
is going to agree with me. This

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is when Picard gets the best look
of Star Track at all times. He

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has the coolest coat in this episode, the coolest. I always wanted this

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coat, guys, I did definitely. I was like, man, I

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wanted to go find this and wear
this because it's just a cooler and they

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like the whole season, he just
like this laid back that the shirt.

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All the coat's always opened with the
great shirt like all right, card is

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a badass, now come on Velvety. And Patrick Stewart asked for that to

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be designed for him. He wanted
to be He wanted to stand out from

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the rest of the cast and it
definitely did that. Oh yeah, it

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did. This episode of this episode
is such a it demands a rewatch.

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Yes, so first timers, you're
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again because it's as soon as you
start to understand where that language is going

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and what these different phrases mean,
it's so cool. It's so cool to

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dissect. On the surface, it
seems like something that should not work.

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It should be just absolutely baffling and
confusing and frustrating. But wow, the

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dramatic places that they go with it. Paul Winfield, Oh gosh, yes,

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Oh he's incredible. Oh he's so
good, so good. Of course

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he you know, was previously Captain
Terrell in Start Trek to rethecon but the

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performance he gives here is just so
you can see the frustration through all the

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makeup, you can see the range
of emotions he's going through, and I

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just think it's spectacular. This is
one of the things where when you when

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you recognize somebody else that's a Star
Trek fan and you say some of these

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phrases, it's a whole other level, a whole other level. And an

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interesting thing about this episode two is
this the beginning career of Ashley Judd.

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She plays infinant Robin Leffler in this
episode. Right never been in film or

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TV before this. No, Yeah, very interesting and I thought she did

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a really good job. I believed, I believe what she was going.

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She was a crew member, Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah,

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and there's another first for this episode
two. This is the first appearance of

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the Text six shuttle craft, the
new shuttle that was designed for the next

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generation. They took the shuttle that
was built for Star Trek five and remodeled

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or redid it so that they could
use it because the one that they had

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built during the first season just didn't
work for them. It was a beautiful

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model, one of the incredible models, designed by the same guy that did

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the enterprise, but when they went
to build it full size, they just

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found out they couldn't match it.
And we could match the design the angles,

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and it looked like it was like
the difference between a Ferrari and a

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minivan between the two. So they
this and it's used quite excessively for the

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rest of the series. Interesting and
in doing the research with this episode too,

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I learned linguistic and linguistic teachers have
used this episode to aid students in

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understanding how languages work and evolve.
I guess that, yeah, yeah,

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I mean it makes sense when you
watch this. It's like when you realize

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what's going on. By the end
of this episode, you're like, oh,

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holy crap, that makes sense.
Yep, yep, so cool.

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All right, well, we are
going to move on to the second episode,

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which is Insign Row. This is
directed by Leslandal written by Michael Pillar.

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A Solarian four colony sends out an
emergency call, which happens to be

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near the Cardassian Federation border. It
seems that a Bajorian ship under the command

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of a terrorist named Orta claims responsibility
of destroying it before the Enterprise even arrives.

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The ship advises this was done in
order to reclaim their civilization from their

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fight and struggle with the Cardassians.
In order to help try to peacefully bring

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an end to this, the card
and the Enterprise are sent in with a

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Majoritan officer assigned to them to help
Instant row Laren, who comes with heavy

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baggage and isn't welcome by many on
the ship. The card and the crew

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do their best to bring a stop
to this terrorism, but is there more

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to this situation than anyone realizes?
Gentlemen, I know we talked about Michelle

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Forbes's last season. Last episode,
we said that she was going to come

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back as a new character. Here
she is. Yes, clearly she got

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this role because she did such a
fantastic job last season, and I'm glad

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she came back because her performance as
insignt Row is just incredible. She fits

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in with this crew so easily,
and the friction that she brings to these

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crew members right away when she's beamed
on board, immediately, Rikers like,

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look, you know, come on
now. I don't want to say what

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it is because I want you everybody
to be surprised by it. But it's

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like Wrikers write in her face about
it. And then that really tense meeting

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between her, Wriker and Icard in
the ready room. Fantastic scene. Good

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stuff. Yeah, this one lays
so much groundwork I think for the Card

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the entire follow up series of Picard
and Deep Space. Not exactly, but

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tonally, I think this one it's
the first time that I can think of

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when you had a contentious crew member
who is not you know, automatically,

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you know, respectful and falling into
line too. For what you think that

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I start how a start fleet officer
should behave very much to the contrast contrary

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and willing to bring new perspective in
that way is really really interesting. Aside

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from the fact that Wayne, like
you mentioned, this has so much importance

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for understanding what's going on behind the
scenes of Deep Space nine, seeing hearing

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about the struggle of Beajor, hearing
about a culture that's not necessarily being served

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well by involvement with the Federation to
be fairer, that it doesn't always happen

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in ideal fashion, but you see
a lot of growth, a lot of

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learning, a lot of digging into
that culture, and just also so fascinating

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that Davey mentioned a great point that
although she integrates with the crew really well

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at a certain point, all the
friction that is felt in different places from

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her and from the crew, we
haven't seen that yet. No, this

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serious and that's a great thing to
see. Yeah, and we needed that.

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I think I think the writers felt
that too. We needed some kind

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of friction with the crew and to
bring this character in. It did it

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extremely well. You know, for
people haven't seen this episode, you're going

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to realize why that friction is there. You know, like I said,

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she has she brought some heavy baggage
with her and a lot of people don't

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respect her, and she's going to
have to earn that with the people she's

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with, and that's not gonna be
an easy job. And I do have

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one little nitpick with this episode,
although I love it. It's one of

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the best of the season as well. This season started off fantastic, but

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the scene between Riker and ensign Row
when he tells her she has to take

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off her earing I never understood that, because you know, they let Warf

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wear his sash, and they let
they let Troy walk around the ship wearing

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anything she wants. But Roe had
to take off her earring, which is

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part of the whole the Joran religious
with the prophets, and that always bothered

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and I felt that kind of hypocritical
of Riker. I agree, I think

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I think. I don't want to
say it is, but it felt like

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Riker was picking on her. I
agree, Yeah, I that's how I

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felt. I think that's because of
her background and what she did and how

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everyone felt against her. He was
he was specifically targeting her, making her

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go strict by the book. Yeah, yeah, I mean it does set

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up a great dramatic moment toward the
end of the episode, but totally agree.

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It seemed like, m that's of
all the things to pick on,

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it's not going to functionally get in
the way or cause any kind of problems.

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I wouldn't think, yeah, but
I don't know, but yeah,

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but what about that cling on us
is walking around here? She didn't go

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on, right, I know I
would have. All right, So let's

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go on with our third pick,
our third episode, Scott, what do

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you got? So this one's called
disaster, a catastrophe on the Enterprise,

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but everyone to the test in various
uncomfortable and critical situations. Picard has to

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lead a mini crew of children that
are stuck in a falling turbo lift,

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while Warf is in of helping Keiko
deliver her first child in ten forward.

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Meanwhile, Jordy and Beverly are stuck
in a cargo bay with a wildfire surrounded

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by explosive cargo. Riker and Data
raced through Jeffrey's tubes to get the ship

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back online without losing their heads and
finally on the bridge. Troy is thrust

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into a leadership role as a ranking
officer, where she Miles, O'Brien and

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rolerin struggle to decide how to keep
the entire ship out of danger. In

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some ways, it feels like several
mini episodes in one, but I think

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it's one of the best crew moments
as we see more of them, seeing

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more of their own potential. This
is written by Ronald D. Moore and

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Ron Jarvis, directed by GABRIELLEL.
Beaumont. I've heard some comparisons of this

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to something like the Poseidon Adventure YEP. In comparison, I think it's so

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cool to see different aspects of the
ship. Will you talk a lot on

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lower decks about where else would you
explore? We get to see the inside

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of the turbolift, the elevator shaft
of the turbolift. We get to see

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Picard I would say successfully struggle with
children, because that's never been his drunk

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suit. Does it beautifully though,
So brilliant, and it just feels like

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so many self contained things that are
just so cool to watch, and they

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all seem to kind of standalone.
They're all brought together. Of all of

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these things, I would say Troy
in command on the bridge was phenomenal.

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It's very interesting. We just talked
about data having a certain, you know,

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similar kind of situation in the premiere. I love those situations where they

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put an unlikely character in charge on
the bridge and they just find a way

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to take command and say, this
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this is what we're going to do. And it took her a little bit

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too to find her legs, you
know, to realize, you know,

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what she was doing, because I
mean, when she realized, oh crap,

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you're the highest thing, You're a
you're it, You're in charge,

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you know, oh crap of all
people. But hey, I thought she

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did a fantastic job. It's also
worth noting this is the last episode that

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aired before Gene Ruddenberry's death, so
we'll see a credit come up in a

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future episode, uh, to commemorate
that event. And one thing that we

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didn't touch the last episode that was
really the development of Chief O'Brien, which

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he I mean, this is a
big episode for him, but last season

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we just saw him. He got
he got his name, he was married

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in the episode Data Bay, he
was married in the episode Data's Day,

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and now you know, we got
the backstory with his participation with the Pardassian

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fights. Now we get the birth
of his child, Mollie, who becomes

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another character and moves with him to
Deep Space nine. It's it's great that

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they're giving these backstories to these these
smaller characters. I mean, he's he's

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a great actor who's been with the
show since day one. Yeah, and

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it's it's it's neat through the seasons
to watch his characters develop. Yeah,

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we have to say that the greatest
line in this episode is from Worf,

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congratulations, you're fully dilated to ten
centimeters. You may now give birth.

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And then later on in d Space
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Worf says that he's going to make
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that time. That's great, Probably
a good call. Yeah, the really

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really good episode. I loved how
they paired people off. I thought that

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was a unique idea and it was
able to keep the the episode flowing extremely

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well. I think everybody they paired
off did did wonderful with each other.

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And I loved especially Crusher on the
Fords too. You know some of their

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thenes together having to get rid of
the barrels because of an explosion that could

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happen and stuff like that. I
just thought all that was really really neat

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and well done. So no,
isn't it interesting too. The song that

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Picard has the kids singing as they're
climbing up from the turble lift comes into

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play in a later episode in this
season. Guys, Oh yes, that's

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right. Yep, Na falls,
Frankie Angela fall, Niagara falls. That's

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right. All right. Well we're
gonna take a break here and we've come

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back. We will continue with our
top ten. All right, welcome back

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everybody. Our next episode is our
fourth pick, Wayne. What do we

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have? Oh, it's a big
one unification. This is written by Rick

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Berman, Jerry Taylor, and Michael
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one and Cliff Bowl for part two. Originally aired on November fourth and November

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eleventh, nineteen ninety one. Hey
My Birthday. Starfleet Intelligence discovered Ambassador's Spock's

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presence on Romulus, and Captain Picard
and the crew of the Enterprise are ordered

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to find out why. After a
brief detour to the planet Vulcan and a

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visit to Spock's father, Sark,
the Card and Data go undercover in a

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cloaked Klingon cruiser to the Romulin home
world. They find Spock, only to

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discover his personal mission to reunite the
worlds of Romulus and Vulcan and in the

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centuries old conflict between the two races. As you had mentioned earlier with the

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episode that aired before Jean Rodenberry passed
away. This episode is the first,

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well, actually both episodes were this
was done with, but at part one

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begun with a dedication to Geene Rawdaberry, he you know, died just a

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week a couple of weeks before this. But this, this is this two

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part it's a two part episode is
really known for one thing, and that's

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the return of the Leonard nimoy As
far. This came out just a few

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weeks before the release of Star Trek
six, The Undiscovered Country and Litterard Nimoyl.

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He accepted the offer to appear in
this as a way of publicizing the

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film, because, I mean the
film is strong referenced to both these episodes.

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Oh yeah, heavily. It's it's
an it's an extremely important episode,

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not just the next generation, but
to Star Trek altogether. I talked before

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about, you know, things that
are important when you're thinking about the Picard

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ongoing series. I feel like this
one definitely has beats that lead into that.

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Right with Picard's involvement with Romulus later, very powerful episode, very interesting

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look into Romulan culture. I think
that we haven't been privy to before.

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Yeah, I think this is the
first time we visited their planet. Yes,

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it is. It is. Yeah, yeah, I know that.

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We've heard from some listeners say that
they kind of struggled with Sarah the episode

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Sarah this watch this one for a
payoff of that very powerful before, very

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powerful performance there by Sarah in particular, and great to see Letardy boy.

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I think he was just fantastic in
this. It was that was a pleasant

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surprise to see. I mean,
you know, they advertised it that way,

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so he knew it was coming.
But to see him again and especially

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with this, you know, get
to see him at the card sharing screen

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time together was just so wonderful to
see and so warming to the heart,

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you know, especially some of the
comments that Spock had made to the card

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about was a cowboyboy diplomacy, howboy
diplomacy? You know, of course clearly

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he was talking about Kirk, you
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humorous. But another thing I love
that Star Trek does so well, especially

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this is you know, even though
you get a lot of powerful dramatic moments.

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You get those comedic beats too that
they do so well. You know,

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one of those scenes that I found
Sue humorous in this is when Data

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in the card were on the Klingon
ship and they were heading toward Romulus as

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the Card's trying to go to sleep, and of course Data is being the

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nice guy that he has, giving
it to his captain the one bed that's

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in that room, and then Data
just basically goes to sleep standing there.

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The card can't go to sleep,
because you just Dave. I love that

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you mentioned that so much, because
oh god, I think about that scenes

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so often when I can't go to
sleep, just like and then Brent Spider's

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acting in particular in that when he's
like okay, I'll turn around and kind

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of gives them this look like okay, weirdo. Like here I go by

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the same token, like, come
on, Data, You've been around other

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beings for a long time, probably
not in the same room where they're sleeping,

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m hm. But take the social
queue and sit man, I pretend

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to sleep. Here's something you guys
might not know. But are you going

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to have to because we're going to
soon talk about discovery during the third season

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of Star Trek Discovery, there's an
episode called Unification three, and it's a

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sequel to this story. It shows
that the Romulens and the Balkans do eventually

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finally come together and live as one. Well, you're right, I forgot

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about that, all right, So
we will move on with our fifth pick.

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And that is Cause an Effect.
Directed by Jonathan Frakes, who clearly

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is falling in love with directing,
which we love. Written by Brandon Braga,

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the Enterprise finds itself caught in a
time loop where the crew relive the

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same day over and over. During
this day, they discover another ship coming

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out of a temporal distortion, which, when trying to avoid it, destroys

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the ship, killing everyone on board. It isn't long until crew members start

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to get a sense that they have
been doing the same thing before. Feelings

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of deja vu are running rampant,
leading them to try and solve a mystery

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before it becomes too late. Now
there is a surprise guest that we can't

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talk about, so I don't want
to ruin that for anybody who hasn't seen

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this before, because it is a
pleasant surprise. I do know. They

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try to get somebody else as well, but I guess it was too expensive

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to get her. It was a
scheduling conflict with there a scheduling conflict,

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okay, okay, which is a
shame because if they had gotten both of

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those, that would just been wow. Oh yeah. But we can't really

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talk about it. I don't want
to ruin any but I thought this was

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a really unique episode. I mean, it is a groundhog Day episode.

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Come on, it is that.
It is so you know, when when

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you see it, you're gonna get
that feelings all over again. But it

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is still a really cool episode because
one of the things that I love that

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Jonathan Frakes did is because he wanted
to make sure when he reshot the scenes

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over and over, because you're reliving
it like the characters are reliving it.

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He made sure to change camera angles. He made sure to mix that up

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so you would not get bored with
seeing the same thing over again. You're

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right, and there are no res
in this Everything is newly shot. Yeah,

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So when he goes back to like
the card scene, you see a

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completely different angle, you know,
behind somebody or on the other side of

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the table, and he us that
all the time. Many shoots the scenes,

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it's a different camera but in some
of them really cool shots, like

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but the camera way up high in
the ceiling, like looking down slowly moving

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man Jonathan Rei Thalth did himself in
this episode. Yeah, it's interesting you

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mentioned the poker scenes because I never
expected the kind of dramatic device that could

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become, and it's used to with
such great effect like this one, especially

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what you were talking about with like
the different camera angles. Yeah, you're

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watching the same thing over and over
again, but it's something new every time.

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Yep. It's it's such a cool
thing to watch unravel. There are

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aspects of this that have to do
with using knowledge to influence future events and

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whether or not to do this.
This has a great dive into that kind

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of dynamic and what you should or
shouldn't do, And I don't know,

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it's it's for an episode that kind
of repeats the same things over and over

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again. It's one of my favorites
to rewatch. There was one thing also

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that it always bothered me with about
the enterprise, and they finally corrected that

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with this episode. Is you know, if you ever if you look at

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the model, if you look at
the ship on screen, we've seen it

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so many times now. The Enterprise
has three shuttle bays, and we've seen

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the shuttlebay many times, but we've
always seen only Shuttleby two and Shuttleby three,

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the ones that are on the cobra
head the bottom star drive section.

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This is the first episode to ever
show the actual main hangar bay, which

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is right underneath the bridge. It's
a main plot point in this episode.

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Yeah, you know. They of
course the set was just too big for

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them to build. That's why we
never actually saw it in live action.

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But they use it to great effect
in this episode. And I was glad

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that they finally acknowledge there is a
shuttle bay there about time. But yeah,

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this is one where I can't wait
to We kind of use Jeff as

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the template to say, like,
you know, this is our first time

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watchers. I cannot wait until he
sees this episode and hear his reaction.

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Yeah, same here, I can't
wait. All right, Well, let's

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move on with our sixth Pick our
sixth episode, Scott, what do we

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have? This one is called the
First Duty. This is a critical moment

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in the life of Cadet and former
acting ends in Wesley Crusher at Starfleet Academy.

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Wesley is part of an elite squad
that's getting ready for graduation. What

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should have been a spectacular start to
their careers is struck by tragedy as one

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of Wesley's friends is accidentally killed in
a flight exercise. His crew answers questions

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about the circumstances of that accident,
which quickly becomes a mystery. Wesley is

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put to the test in several ways, and we see some essential growth and

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unexpected changes that will reverberate throughout the
franchise. Fans of Lower Decks will remember

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us talking about this landmark episode,
and anyone who wants to watch that series

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should pay special attention to this one. Written by Ronald D. Moore and

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Narn Shinkar, directed by Paul Lynch. This is the first appearance I believe

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of Robert Duncan McNeil, who would
eventually play Voyager's Tom Harris. I was

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interested to learn that Nick lcarno was
supposed to come back in Voyager, but

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I guess there were royalty issues because
every time they would have a Voyager episode,

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they'd have to pay royalties to the
people who created to the writers yep,

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who created this episode. Rightly so, but I can imagine that looking

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like a check book right over ending
checks. But I'm glad they were able

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to use Robert Duncan McNeil. He
has such a great performance. The entire

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crew that Wesley is is with does
such a great job in this, and

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it's such a fascinating look at Wesley's
character. He goes in places that I

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would never have expected. The scene
between Wesley and Picard on the Enterprise when

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basicallyly Picard brought him before to let
him know he knows what's going on,

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he knows what happen happens and tells
him this is what you have to do.

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You have to make it right.
Basically that scene right there, Man,

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I tell you that was rough to
watch because everything those two characters have

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been through together. And then let's
remember the scene that the last thing they

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had together last season that we talked
about in the last podcast. You know,

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when you think about all that and
exactly what Wesley Crusher is protecting here

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and should not be, man,
that was a powerful scene. Yeah.

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Well, and thinking about you know, Picard's relationship with Beverly and Beverly's reaction

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to this, like there were what
was it five shuttlecraft. Yeah, that

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they had for this exercise. Yep, one of them could have easily been

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Wesley. That's got to be terrifying
for Beverly and Picard feeling that sense of

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responsibility, that that need to protect
Wesley and knowing how dangerous, how how

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close danger it is to him.
Yeah, that had to shake him to

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the core. That that brings up
a point that I wanted to make.

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The scene when the cards sits down
with with Beverly, you guys, remember

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that and he's telling her, you
know, basically everything's okay, you know,

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Wes, it was in an accident. Her performance there, Gates McFadden

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was outstanding because you could see her
as a worried mother right there. And

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this episode also has the first appearance
of Boothby. We see him a lot

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more. He appears well, he
appears twice more both in Voyager and the

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episode is in the Flesh and the
Fight. But he's such He's already been

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mentioned once before last season and she
he just he's a very important part of

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Starfleet Academy. Yeah, good old
Ray Walston stars. I used to watch

405
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.960
the old Black and White, my
favorite Martians in the syndication and then when

406
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.440
I then after that I had seen
him in the Next Generation, and I

407
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.240
was like, oh, I automatically
love this character. Automatic, yep.

408
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.799
Absolutely. I want to throw out
there for Shannon phil To who play Fido.

409
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.759
Oh yes, I thought she did
a really good job too. Man.

410
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.079
Yeah, yeah, all right,
Well, let's move on to our

411
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:18.759
seventh episode, Wayne and it Is
I Borg. Written by Renee at Javaria,

412
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:23.920
directed by Robert Liederman. Originally aired
on May tenth, nineteen ninety two.

413
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.319
The Enterprise crew find a crashed board
scout ship and within it an injured

414
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:36.200
board drone. Seeing it as an
opportunity to examine the board most more closely,

415
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.640
they bring it on board the Enterprise
Starfleet wants the car to use it

416
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.680
as a weapon of mass destruction against
the Boorg, but the drone begins to

417
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.839
develop free will and forces the crew
to debate the moral and ethical ramifications of

418
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:55.599
what they are doing to it.
Now, this is a season of fantastic

419
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.720
episodes, and here's another one.
It is at a great start, and

420
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.599
now we're down to the final episodes
of this of the fifth season, and

421
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.240
we're we're ending on a high note. They just keep getting better and better,

422
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.039
and this is this is gosh,
this was such a shock but such

423
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:17.400
an important episode. It's the first
appearance of Jonathan del Arcos Hugh before return

424
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.079
again. Oh yeah, he did
a fantastic job. You know, he'll

425
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.519
return later in the season and then
he'll also have a major role on Star

426
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:32.839
Trek with Card season one. Yeah. This this is another episode that everyone

427
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.039
talks about. This is the better
episodes, one of the higher voted episodes

428
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.799
of the season. This changed the
way we looked at the board at this

429
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.799
point. You know, before they
were unstoppable, they they did not have

430
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:53.079
a personality, they did not have
an individual individualism, and now we see

431
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:58.039
that they can have that, and
we had to reevaluate our thoughts on the

432
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.920
board. And that's the whole point
of the episode, to read evaluate your

433
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.920
enemy, because you know, not
everyone it can be can be the enemy.

434
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.160
And it's also I gotta point this
suck because this is probably the reason

435
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:16.319
why I love this episode is because
of the very strong performances between Whoopi Goldbergen

436
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:22.400
and Patrick Stewart. It's so incredible. I mean, they're incredible in every

437
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.759
scene they do. But you know, you can tell that they love this

438
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.960
script. You know, and this
is a favorite of all of them,

439
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:36.000
and the scenes between the two are
just so powerful. It's another one of

440
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.839
those episodes too, because we got
to the point now in this season where

441
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.440
you know, you feel like Picard
has kind of forgotten about Locutus, He's

442
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.799
forgotten about what happened with the borg. He's moving on. Bam, here

443
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.880
we go again. He gets thrush
right into his face again and they want

444
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.119
to bring this on board? Are
you kidding me? And then I mean

445
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.920
a lot of the crew members are
fighting that where Beverly isn't because you know,

446
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.680
she she sees someone injured, she
wants to take care of them,

447
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.839
and of course Picard is like,
hell, no you're not. And then

448
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:14.599
obviously you know, he gives in. But the scene where him and Hugh

449
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:20.199
are together, in that scene where
he has to become La Cutis, you

450
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.400
know, he's talking to him as
Lucutas, forcing him, you know,

451
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.880
to talk to him and you to
get the reactions from him, and that

452
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.199
scene was just so well done.
Believe so wait, you are right about

453
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.119
when you say what the Goldbrigg is
guy and Patrick Stewart as Piccarda, their

454
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.039
performances are just out of this world
in this episode because it is. And

455
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:45.320
that scene that you just mentioned between
Patrick Stewart and Jonathan del Arco where he

456
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:53.079
becomes lucutist is another incredible scene.
I love when Captain Picard realizes you know

457
00:34:53.480 --> 00:35:00.559
what Hugh said, Yeah, look
on Stuart's face. It's you can see

458
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.920
the whole thing just changes. You
know, his preconceptions of above board changed

459
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.599
that moment, right then. Yep, yeah, you read my mind.

460
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.480
Wagh And oh god, it was
chilling, and it's it's a very breathy

461
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.239
delivery. It's just like what did
you say? Yeah, like, oh

462
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.719
my god, it gives me goose
bumps right now, Like yeah. The

463
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.199
beginning of that scene too, is
was I remember the first watch of that

464
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.440
that it was fairly chilling. It
was like, wait a second, is

465
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.280
he making a is this a performance
that he's delivering mirror or is this like

466
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.280
you can see how you know,
obviously it's not like nanit's re activating or

467
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.000
something like that, but you can
see how much that's very much still with

468
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.880
him. Oh, it's not something
he left behind when the implants were removed.

469
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.159
It's very much there. Uh,
And you know, a crisp memory

470
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.119
that he can pull up very easily, Jonathan de Larco does. There's so

471
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:59.480
much applause for this. It's beautifully
written, but his performance and I'll tell

472
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:06.760
you a very last scene. Now
there's a very subtle look that Jonathan gives

473
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:15.480
and oh my god, god,
it is so amazing. Yeah, we're

474
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.280
talking about emotional range from a borg. All right, we never thought we

475
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.199
would get but wow. Yeah.
What What I love what the writers did

476
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.000
here is you can you can kind
of think like, oh, we're gonna

477
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.159
see the borg again, here we
go, but then they take it a

478
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:34.599
completely opposite direction of what you expect
to happen, and then they make you

479
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.280
feel for that character that you want
to keep them around, and they're like,

480
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.480
uh no, we're not gonna let
you do that, and then they

481
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.400
go to another direction. You're like, god, dang you writers. This

482
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.320
episode was fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, all right, Well we are going

483
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.719
to take another break and when we
come back, we will finish our top

484
00:36:53.760 --> 00:37:00.760
ten. All right, welcome back, everybody. We're going to continue with

485
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.400
our top ten with our eighth pick, and that is the next Base.

486
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.119
Directed by David Carson, written by
Ronald D. Moore. A Romulin vessel

487
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:14.880
is in distress, and the Enterprise
races to help. The Way Team beams

488
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.119
on board with the Romulins to assess
and see the damage to its engine.

489
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.119
Jordi advises he can fix it,
but must beam back to the Enterprise with

490
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.599
Ensign Row, and doing so,
a transporter malfunction occurs, making it look

491
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.559
like the two of them are dead. As the crew of the Enterprise do

492
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.840
their best to assist the Romulins repair
their ship, they also must make plans

493
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.840
to honor those they lost. Meanwhile, it is uncovered that the Romulins are

494
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.039
up to something I know shocker and
could be the reason the Enterprise crew members

495
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:47.360
disappeared. This is another episode that
kind of caught me by surprise because you

496
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.639
know, we've seen the Romulins quite
a bit. We've dealt with them,

497
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.840
you know, with the Klingons,
we've dealt them. You know, we

498
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.920
did the two parter we just had
recently, so you really could have almost

499
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.159
rolled your eyes with like, here
we go with another Romulin episode. But

500
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.559
you know what, they took this
a different direction too that I found very

501
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.440
interesting, especially when we get to
see the stuff with Geordy in inciant Row

502
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:13.000
and you know the other romuland if
you know what I'm talking about, happens

503
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.840
later line the secret one. You
know, they're like, oh wait a

504
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.760
minute, what what there's one of
them two? That was that was really

505
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.199
cool. Yea. So much happened
in this episode that I love. For

506
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.679
one thing is getting the Jordie LaForge
in the insiant Row back and forth between

507
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.199
the two of them, because instant
Row obviously was wanting to give up,

508
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.199
and Geordie was like, no,
no, we're not We're not giving up.

509
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.800
We're gonna We're gonna keep pushing forward
and figure this out. And of

510
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.519
course, you know, we see
what happens, but again you're getting some

511
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.199
more inciant Row that I loved.
We almost didn't get that this was originally

512
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.639
written to be a Jordi and Troy
episode. Oh yeah, Brendan Braga decided

513
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.239
that Troy, you know, she
had too much to do this season already,

514
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.239
so and they wanted to highlight insint
Row, a new character they wanted

515
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.440
to turn around, and that was
that was the best decision they made right

516
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.679
there. I agree. I agree. The one scene that I really really

517
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:07.159
loved too is the when Jordy and
Roe are on the Shadow cruiser with Data

518
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.119
and Wharf and they're they're planning the
funeral. You know I'm talking about that.

519
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:19.079
I loved that scene so much because
right there you saw, even though

520
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:23.840
he can't give emotions, you saw
that love that Data has. He is

521
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.760
and he even says it right there. You know, Jordie is my best

522
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.480
friend, you know, so you
know I want to make sure this is

523
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.000
this is right. And just the
scene between the two of them and those

524
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:39.360
the other two overhearing this, Oh
my goodness. Yeah, yeah, they're

525
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:45.320
able to. There's so much emotional
weight to so many little moments throughout this

526
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:52.480
series, but you can see how
much more we're getting of those in every

527
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.840
episode. Yeah, there were I
forgot, how I mean, like what

528
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:01.320
I remembered most about this episode from
when I had watched it before. It

529
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:06.719
was just kind of the general premise, right and the resolution kind of the

530
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.800
danger that they had to resolve.
But I had forgotten about those emotional beats

531
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:19.519
and man they hit like a hammer. Well yeah, yeah, I remembered

532
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:23.239
very little of this episode other than
people running through walls and then rewatching it,

533
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.320
Yeah, rewatching it. It's it
really is a powerful and a fantastic

534
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.480
episode. I mean said, the
end of the season is just incredible episodes

535
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.880
one after another. You know,
this was going to be their bottle show

536
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.400
too, This is going to be
their their cheap episode of the season.

537
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.280
But this actually ended up being the
most expensive episode of the entire year because

538
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.280
of all the blue screen They had
a film two days of just blue screen

539
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.480
work. It was so much.
You know, it's not easy or cheap

540
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.880
running through walls, No, it's
not well, and all the money they

541
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.920
had to spend on that party too, so that let's not let's call out

542
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.360
Susannah Thompson too, who plays for
real. She will be the boar Cooen

543
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:07.039
in some episodes coming up, so
we can't forget about that. One thing

544
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.039
I mentioned earlier about the comedic beats
again, I want to laugh with when

545
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.639
Instant Road did the phase with Riker, Yeah, yeah, I was like,

546
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.079
wait, that's okay, that's okay, all right, let it go,

547
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.360
let it go. Well, let's
move on to our ninth pick,

548
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:27.280
Scott. What do we have?
I don't know if I'm worthy to talk

549
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.719
about this one there. Oh my
god. This is one of the most

550
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.079
poignant, self contained episodes in the
franchise, and a very important moment in

551
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.559
Picard's life, the Enterprise encounters a
ceramic probe. It begins to match their

552
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.559
flight pattern and speed exactly just enough
to connect with Captain Picard through a particle.

553
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.360
Beat Knocked unconscious, he finds himself
in a strange and non threatening environment,

554
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.480
surrounded by people who care for him, although they believe he's someone else.

555
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:59.559
What it unravels is a fascinating look
at another life and a mystery for

556
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:06.360
the crew solve without risking Piccard's life. Written by Morgan Gindel and Peter Allen

557
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.119
Fields, directed by Peter Laurenson.
I'm on the fence about whether or not

558
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.000
to mention this, but I'll just
go ahead and say it. Fans of

559
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:20.880
Superman will see similarities for the man
who has everything, although this doesn't have

560
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:25.360
the same Sinister's tone. There's no
black mercy in this one. But oh,

561
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.519
it's so powerful. It takes a
minute, I'll say to when I

562
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.440
first watched this, it took me
a while to figure out what was going

563
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:43.079
on. It's important to look at
makeup application and what everyone conveys. Yes,

564
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.360
so well done, and it goes
into places where I had never expected

565
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.880
Picard's character to be able to go. But such an evolution for Picard and

566
00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:00.519
one of the you know, it's
another goosebump ending that is so subtle and

567
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.199
so simple, but oh so powerful. This's a big one when when you

568
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:07.880
think about, yeah, this is
a very powerful episode. And I think

569
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.119
even the writers admit they didn't realize
how powerful this episode was going to be

570
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.440
until it happened. And you know, people look back at this as thing.

571
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.760
How it's a turning point really for
for Card. You know, if

572
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:23.679
you think about what happened to him, was what twenty minutes and and and

573
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:29.159
in the crew's time on the ship. Yeah, for him, a lifetime,

574
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:36.039
He lived a lifetime. He got
to experience life and be married and

575
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.119
have kids and just and then all
that be taken away from you. Can

576
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:44.719
you imagine just like wake up from
a dream and not realize, you know,

577
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.239
that's it's so powerful. I mean, that's I can't understand how the

578
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.599
Card could separate, you know,
reality from right fantasy. It's yeah,

579
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:01.480
it's understandable that this would have consequences. Consequence is later on throughout his career,

580
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:06.039
throughout the character's life. Yeah,
and this this poor character of me,

581
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:07.559
come on, he's been through so
much. I mean, I know

582
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.199
a lot of these characters have,
but come on, man, you turn

583
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.840
him into a boorg. He got
to come back and now you gotta do

584
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.800
this to him. Come on.
Mentally, the you know, it points

585
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.239
out how important counselor Troy's role really
is. Yeah, because the number of

586
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.880
mind games that happen with these characters
in these episodes is staggering. It's occurring

587
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.719
to me that this, this episode
is has got to be such a gift

588
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.679
for Picard as a character because of
his love of archaeology. Oh yeah,

589
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.599
this seems like could be an archaeologist's
dream, it would be. Yeah.

590
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.559
He had Patrick Stewart had said that
this is one of the greatest acting challenges

591
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.079
he's ever faced in the seven years
of Next Generation, which I believe to

592
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:00.159
see why. Yeah. Also very
interesting that his son Daniels plays a role

593
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.199
in this movie, in this movie, in this episode, although I can't

594
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:10.119
say which, Yeah, but that
was a really cool revelation. Yeah.

595
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.840
I think the two Winriker hands him
the box at the end. We can't

596
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:16.960
say what's in it or anything like
that because I don't want to ruin it

597
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.880
for anybody, but just my goodness, Scott, you mentioned the ending of

598
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.880
it. Just yeah, nigrifall if
Man, Yeah, well, yes,

599
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:31.000
and there's a lot of there's thinking
about the non verbal acting in that scene,

600
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.039
in particular, in a lot of
these scenes, and it's just done

601
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.800
so quietly and so perfectly. Oh
boy. I have to point out music

602
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:45.760
is very important to this episode.
Yes, not just the background incidental music,

603
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:52.159
but the music that is incorporated in
the story. It's a beautiful piece

604
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.159
of music that's written by Jay Chataway. It comes back many times, comes

605
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.840
back later in the season. And
also not the main piece, not the

606
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:06.639
flute piece that we hear most through
the episode, but one of the one

607
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:13.360
of the side pieces that the card
or came in as he's being called on

608
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.280
the planet his son plays is actually
the theme that was used for Star Trek.

609
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.280
The card Yeah, that's right.
Wow, Oh my god. Yeah,

610
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.320
just credited for every episode because they
use that. It's such a that's

611
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.360
a great little callback that people didn't
even realize. I love this episode.

612
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.719
I would even go as to say
this is probably my favorite episode of Star

613
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:40.960
Trek the Next Generation. Wow,
because the ending. This is the only

614
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.760
episode of Star Trek throughout all the
series The ending makes me cry every time.

615
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
always am in tears at the end

616
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.159
of this episode. And and it
rightfully so won the nineteen ninety three Huro

617
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.440
Award. It disturbed it. It's
the first Star Trek to win since the

618
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.199
original series. And you got to
watch this episode. It's so powerful and

619
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.920
so fantastic. All right, Well, we are going to be moving on

620
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.760
to our last pick, Number ten, Wayne, What do we have?

621
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.239
Yeah? Number ten is the season
finale. Times Arrow, written by Joe

622
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.679
Minowski, Michael Pillar, and Jerry
Taylor, and directed by Les Landau.

623
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.639
Is originally aired on June fifteenth,
nineteen ninety two, for part one,

624
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:29.360
and opened up the sixth season with
September twenty first, nineteen ninety two for

625
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:34.800
part two. On Earth, evidence
of alien interference from five hundred years ago

626
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:39.559
is discovered in an old cavern near
Starfleet headquarters. Within it, among the

627
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:45.920
nineteenth century relics, is discovered Data's
head. The Enterprise investigations bring them to

628
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:51.159
the planet Davidia two, where they
find a race of time traveling aliens.

629
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.360
Data is accidentally pulled into the time
portal with the aliens and Guynan convinces Picard

630
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.039
and the others that they must go
back in time as well to rescue him

631
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:07.559
or history may be disastrously altered.
They originally hadn't planned this to to end

632
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.679
that they hadn't planned it in the
season with a cliffhanger. But at the

633
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.000
time, there were a lot of
rumors going around that the Next Generation was

634
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.639
ending. They were unfounded. But
I think it all came the fact that

635
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.400
Deep Space nine was in pre production
at this time. They were they were

636
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:29.280
starting to film and with a new
Star Trek series coming on, you know,

637
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.360
we we couldn't fathom the idea of
two Star Trek series on at the

638
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.039
same time. It's that wouldn't happen. And that's why, you know that

639
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:38.960
we thought, you know, that
the series might be coming to an end.

640
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.199
So this is the reason why we
got this cliffhanger. I'm glad we

641
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.239
did because it's a really good cliffhanger, but they just wanted to make sure

642
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:50.079
everyone know that that, hey,
the show's coming back next year. Yeah.

643
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.159
And I also I got a point. I like this episode. I

644
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:58.519
love time travel episodes and I'm a
huge time travel fee No, no,

645
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.840
wait a second, but I want
to point out there are some great guest

646
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:09.159
stars in this this episode, Mark
Alamo, he plays the poker player.

647
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.519
He would go on and play gold
to cott on these space on a very

648
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.800
very important character. And then of
course there's Jerry Harden as Samuel Clemens.

649
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.039
I love his performance. You know, he'd been on the show before,

650
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.000
back during the first season, and
then he of course I'll appeared later.

651
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.760
I mean, you know, he's
been on everything pretty much every show,

652
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.039
Golden Girls, Lewis and Clark.
I know, David, you're familiar with

653
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.199
him as Deep Throat Next Files.
That's he's He's a great actor, and

654
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:45.039
his his performances as Samuel Clemens is
just it's it's funny. And every time

655
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.599
he's on screen, his his mannerisms, his facial expressions. I laugh every

656
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.559
time I see him. I just
I love this episode. Didn't he create

657
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.679
a one man touring show yes with
Mark Wayne because of this, Yeah,

658
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.840
which you can see and God bless
him for doing it. I would go

659
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.920
to see that in a hard feat
If you're if you're a first time watcher

660
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.239
that becomes a fan of this episode, go watch Lower Decks. We talked

661
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.559
about a certain episode you'll howl.
If you're a fan of lower decks.

662
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:22.719
And you've seen the Mark Twain episode, come see this episode because Oh Jeremy

663
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.280
hard and God bless you. I
love that delivery. It's so fantastic.

664
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:32.360
Every single scene he just divevours,
he doesn't just chew it. It's a

665
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.679
it's a fascinating premise. I will
say that my youngest son, Jude,

666
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:45.039
when he saw the he saw the
effects that they use for the phase,

667
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.599
he was like, oh my god, that's cool. And then I showed

668
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:54.039
him the big the artifact that's revealed
that causes a lot of the dramatic tension.

669
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.559
He was like what and automatically wanted
to see more. And I was

670
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:05.719
like, that's exactly what these things
should do. It's it's so it's so

671
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:10.079
interesting. There's it's kind of a
blend of you know, time periods,

672
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:19.000
but just seeing how certain characters adapt
to that so well. It's got some

673
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:30.000
great comedic beats, some amazing comedic
beats yep, yep. And going back

674
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:38.039
to Whoopi Goldberg as g and I
love her performance in this. It's it's

675
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.480
very interesting. And this is another
like there are so many that bear you

676
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.920
know, a second watch, this
is one of them. Once you see

677
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.159
both parts, then you go back
to this when you understand you know,

678
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.960
uh where certain characters were coming from. But she has some great scenes in

679
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:57.360
this. I love it. And
we we've been speaking about Gene Roddenberry.

680
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.599
This is the last time he's credited
as executive producer. This episode also won

681
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.920
the nineteen ninety two Emmy Award for
Hair Styling Costumes. It was because of

682
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:14.159
Mark Twain. Oh yeah, yeah, all right. It's got a great

683
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:19.320
cliffhanger too. It's not quite never
comparing anything the best of both worlds because

684
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.480
you can't, you can't. But
great cliffhanger and a great period of time

685
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.480
to think back on, like this
is VCR days when it was like we

686
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:30.719
had to wait several months and then
couldn't rewatch it unless you had you know,

687
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.800
you were mindful enough to record it. But yeah, it's a great

688
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.239
cliffhanger for the for the next season
and you got to see how it resolves.

689
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.440
There was a questions, Oh yeah, there was no binging for us

690
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.880
back then. We had to wait. We had to wait. It was.

691
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.760
It was terrible, It was terrible, hard, it was it was

692
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:51.800
really hard, all right. So
that was our top ten for season five.

693
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.519
So, of course, we as
we've been doing in the past with

694
00:52:53.599 --> 00:53:00.760
the other seasons, we have some
episodes that our favorites. We love every

695
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.159
episode that we have a Star Trek
and Next duration, but there are some

696
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.440
of them out there that we don't
like as much as we do in our

697
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.480
top ten. So we're gonna talk
about our least favorite episode of season five,

698
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.760
Wayne, what is yours? Oh? There were so many fantastic episodes

699
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.199
this season, but I'm gonna say
my least favorite is probably a conundrum just

700
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.960
because it's so mediocre. Another season
of great episodes and this is stuck right

701
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:27.079
in the middle. You know,
they spend half the episode wondering around and

702
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.719
asking the question, you know,
who am I really? And then there's

703
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.519
a new character just suddenly appears in
the episode, a Commander McDuff, and

704
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.679
it's so obvious that he's all behind
it all, but you know you have

705
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:43.239
to sit there for a half hour, you know, letting them play around

706
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:44.599
and say, oh, you know, is he is? And he,

707
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:49.039
of course he is. The only
redeeming factor is It's a little trivia fact

708
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:53.280
I'll give our listeners. The robot
from Lost in Space appears in this episode.

709
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:57.000
So go and watch it. See
if you can hunt for to find

710
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.840
it, that is, if you
can keep yourself awake for forty five minutes.

711
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.639
That reminds me. There's another artifact
and I forget which episode, but

712
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:15.760
apparently Picard has a Shakespeare bust in
his already room or of his quarters in

713
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.039
his ready room. M it's in
Blake and you'll miss it, but it's

714
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:25.400
kind of on the back wall.
And I'm like his Picard batman because it's

715
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.079
the same one. I bet there's
like a button where he presses the you

716
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.840
know, press the button in the
neck. For me, I totally agree

717
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:39.480
Wayne there it's It's a lot of
strong episodes in this season. The one

718
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:45.239
that I don't believe I would ever
watch again is Violations. Not that it

719
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:52.719
wasn't well done, but the the
situations that you have to observe and endure

720
00:54:52.159 --> 00:55:00.519
are are really unsettling, and I
find it very hard to rewatch. There

721
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.880
were times when I was like,
should they have gone here? And I

722
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:10.239
I really detest what it what it
does to Troy. I just feel so

723
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.599
yeah, it's done it in such
a horrible way. And I don't mean

724
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:21.400
that it was produced poorly or written
poorly or anything else like that, but

725
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:28.960
just disturbing. So just watch that
one with caution. I would say I

726
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.519
hate the alien costumes of the episode. I think they're so ugly with all

727
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:38.559
the whole Yeah, absolutely well for
me. For me, gentlemen, I'm

728
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:43.039
going I really feel bad about picking
on the Loxano Troy. I feel like

729
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.559
I'm always picking on episodes that she's
in that I don't like. And Mozielle

730
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:51.159
Barrett's awesome, but It's Cost of
Living for me is the least favorite episode

731
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.920
that I have. The enterprise basically
destroys an asteroid, then gets threatened with

732
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:01.719
some kind of like what ship rot
that is killing the ship and then we

733
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:06.480
once again walks on of Troy's falling
in love and can this woman just stop

734
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:10.599
falling in love for crying out loud? But seeing the antics of Whorf Sun

735
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:16.039
just it's too much. But we
get to see them in mud baths.

736
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:22.559
I mean, no, no,
no, no, no, I don't.

737
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.840
And again I want to reiterate I'm
not picking on her because it seems

738
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.239
like my least favorite episodes are once
she's in. She's a great actress and

739
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:30.880
I love her on Troy, but
just these episodes. I'm sorry, it

740
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.440
just doesn't do it for me.
Man. Yeah, I remember when I

741
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.519
was first watching this series, they
were they were I just have a memory

742
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:43.599
of saying like, Ugh, if
it's a La Waxana Troy episode, I'll

743
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.199
skip it. If it's an Alexander
episode, I'll skip it. And then

744
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.559
I see a screenshot for this one
on Paramount plus Whorts both of them share

745
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:57.239
on the screen and I'm like,
but to their credit, you know,

746
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:02.679
the the characters that they portrayed,
the you know, the role that they

747
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:08.039
play in the franchise, certain characters
cannot be denied how important they are and

748
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:13.960
how well done it's by those characters. But then Wayne reminds me of the

749
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.239
Mudbeth thing, and I'm like,
I'm not gonna I'm probably not gonna do

750
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.840
it. Yeah, no, thank
you. I don't want to see that

751
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.320
things all right. So, as
again as the other seasons, we have

752
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:28.239
chosen one of the crew members who
we pick for the season to be what

753
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:31.000
favorite moment we have for them for
the season, and this one is good

754
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:37.519
old Jordie LaForge. Scott, what
is your favorite moment from LaForge? It's

755
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:43.920
the next phase the episode, the
next phase you mentioned before, the scene

756
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:47.719
of the turbolift, where I think
he he already knows certain things about his

757
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:54.719
friendship with Data, but that moment
of realization is just so impactful, and

758
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.800
knowing where their friendship goes throughout the
franchise, not to mention and in Pickhard,

759
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:07.280
it's just so powerful. Aside from
that, in the same episode,

760
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:13.960
just his decision not to accept what
seems to be his fate and say,

761
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:16.920
well, now I'm going to take
a stand until it is proven beyond a

762
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.320
reasonable doubt. I am going to
stand up against this and I'm going to

763
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:29.039
do what I have to do.
And that shows such resilience in his character

764
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:36.119
and what you absolutely need in an
engineer, and the reason that he comes

765
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:40.280
through in so many circumstances is exactly
that, And I love that. What

766
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:44.840
about you? That's a good pick? What about you? Well, I

767
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.119
was originally going to choose I've seen
from the next phase two, but just

768
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.280
earlier this week I saw an episode
on a Pluto TV and I've changed my

769
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.400
mind. This isn't one of our
choices, but it would be seen from

770
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:02.039
the Masterpiece Society. The episode the
Planet's in danger of being destroyed and there's

771
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:07.440
a society on it that's genetically engineered
to make sure each and every one of

772
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.440
the people on it are perfect.
And there's a scene where Jordie is talking

773
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.320
to the scientist Hannah Bates from the
colony and they're devising a way of saving

774
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.719
the planet, and they come up
with a solution using the technology of his

775
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.800
visor, which is a piece of
equipment that he would need if he was

776
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:30.280
perfect. LaForge has a line that
says, who gave them the right to

777
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:32.559
decide whether or not I should be
here, whether or not I have something

778
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:38.239
to contribute it. It was such
a small but very touching and great performance

779
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:44.679
by LeVar Burton that I have to
choose that one really makes that character stand

780
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.559
down. Good pick. I would
didn't even think about that one. That's

781
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:52.400
a good choice for me. I
have to go with Iborg the moment he

782
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.519
realizes, Hugh says, I and
his turn to really caring about him as

783
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:02.960
a character, as not just borg
but as an actual human being. And

784
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.920
then the whole ending thing. I
don't want to say what it is,

785
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.079
but you know that look that he
gets at the end, and how much

786
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.840
he cares that because complete turnaround he
had That's that's my favorite Jordy Leforage moment

787
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:21.639
for sure. All Right, Wayne
Scott, thank you so much for joining

788
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:23.639
me on the bridge. It's always
a pleasure to talk star Trek with you.

789
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:28.360
Two lots of it otherwise. Yeah, I also want to thank the

790
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.760
listeners. Hopefully you are enjoying what
we have to say about Star Trek and

791
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:36.159
our deep dive into the next generation
right now, and I hope you continue

792
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:38.079
to keep joining us. We have
a lot on the horizon to talk about.

793
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.199
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794
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.679
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795
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:52.360
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798
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