Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 7

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Hello, and welcome back to Phasers
Set to Stun. In this ongoing series

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But in the course, as always
is your core Trek crew. I'm Scott

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Hoffmann, I'm David Burns, and
I'm Wayne Whiten. And in this episode

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we're we're continue with Starter Treks,
a spoiler free curated episode list of the

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top ten episodes you can watch as
a great way to get into each series

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after listening to this episode, you
can find that list into the description below.

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And of course we're talking about Star
Trek the Next Generation. We're finally

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into the seventh and final season.
It is very hard to believe that we're

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there. I know, it's amazing, yeah, all the way through,

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but it has been a great rite. I appreciate you both being honest with

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me. It's great. And just
to be clear, when we get into

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the top ten, we're talking about
the ten episodes to watch in order of

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appearance, not necessarily an order of
preference. So, knowing that this is

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the last season of an amazing show, I'm sure there's some awards that we

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have to talk about, Wayne,
what can you tell us about that?

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Yeah, this is very important.
This season was nominated for the nineteen ninety

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four Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series. You know, this is the first

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time a syndicated series it's ever been
nominated. It was a big thing to

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be nominated because at the time,
sci fi wasn't really considered real draw and

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to be to be nominated for a
dramatic award was was huge. I mean

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that made the news. They did
lose, they lost to Picket Fences,

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but it's still this was a monumental
step for for science fiction television. Yeah,

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how much things have changed to today
because science fiction is taken so seriously

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now compared to what it used to
be. Yeah. Yeah, well,

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people are finally realizing how how much
it can kind of broaden your imagination,

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your horizons with you know, different
storylines and where they can go. And

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I mean this show in particular.
You've got romantic episodes, you've got legal

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courtroom episodes, you've got passionate adventure, you've got you know, morality plays.

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Yep. There's there's a lot in
this in this series alone, let

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alone the franchise. So I'm glad
I got some respect. I feel like

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you have to send that back to
Pulaski and say, see, you should

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take it seriously. You know.
It just shows how groundbreaking this series really

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was. I mean, I remember
back in nineteen ninety four when with one

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of the news I don't remember which
magazine it was, but they stated that

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this was the end of the greatest
science fiction series ever produced. And I

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agree with that. I mean,
they broke so many records that some of

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them still stand today. Yeah,
And it was a lot of feelings because

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of this. I remember this year
of knowing this was going to end,

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and it was really heartbreaking. It
was because I mean, you had fallen

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in love with all of these characters, you know, and think about back

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to when we first saw the first
season, when we were young. It

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was hard to get used to him
at first because we were used to the

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og crew, you know, and
no one was going to replace Kirk.

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No, one's going to replace back. Well, here we are seven years

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later. We're like, oh my
god, we don't want to lose these

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guys. We love them. And
it was sad, you know, although

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it helped that, you know,
we were during the season when it aired,

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we had the second season of Deep
Space nine. It had already established

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itself, and we also knew that
while they were producing this series, they

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were also getting ready to produce Star
Trek Generations. We knew that they were

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going to be jumping into the films. Yeah, so you know, it

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kind of eased our sadness for the
end of the series. Well, I

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think they only had like a week
after ending this series filming. They would

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jump right into Generations filming, didn't
they. Yeah, well, actually they

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started filming the movie while they were
filming the season finale, because they started

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with the Kirk scenes while they were
filming the finale, and then then,

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like you said, like a week
later, they had to move right into

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there, so there was no break
for any of the cast. Yeah,

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good for them. Well, I
had seen that they started getting scripts confused

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between the two, but yeah,
I mean I think the way that they

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planned this out was very smart because, like you said, season two of

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Das nine had already started, so
it's like you had another vind a swing

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too. You know, it wasn't
just kind of like all right, we're

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in limbo and then we're all kind
of holding our breath, knowing that the

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movies have kind of a cadence to
which ones are good and which ones are

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bad. Plus they were talking about
you know, we knew that a third

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Star Trek series was coming. Yeah. I don't remember ever actually knowing what

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it was about when these episodes were
airing. I think it was right after

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they started announcing it, but we
knew it was coming, so we were

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all curious as to what was next
and what it would I like with this

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toode. And I'm sure we'll talk
about it when we get to all good

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things. But I mean, it
really is not an ending ending. You

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know. It leaves it wide open. You know, they're not saying,

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oh, the enterprise is down,
see you later. No, they're not

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doing that. So and I appreciated
that too. Yeah, and that sticks

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with the whole premise of the franchise. Right, It's never ending, it's

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this ongoing mission. So right,
I was good to see. All right,

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well, let's dive into that top
ten. I'll start us off talking

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about the first episode, which is
Phantasms. This is a long, strange

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trip for Data as he starts to
have nightmares for the first time. He

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sees an old time railroad crew tearing
the ship ship apart, pressure drinking from

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Riker's brain, and Wharf enjoying a
Troy shaped cake with mint frosting that he

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apparently loves. Although it starts as
a mild curiosity, his nightmares bleed start

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bleeding into waking reality and threatening the
entire ship. And I don't know how

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much I can say without going into
spoilers territory, but I thought it was

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an excellent mind bending episode that's written
by Brandon Bragga and Rene at Savaria.

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And surprised to see that this is
directed by Sir Patrick Stuart. Yeah,

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oh yeah, the next to last
episode directed by him for the Next Generation.

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He had also directed in Theory,
Hero Worship and A Fist Full of

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Datas, which now that I'm mentioning
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back and see them. He didn't
get enough from those, go get some

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more. I think it's it's one
of the more interesting dream based episodes,

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and it has some of the most
disturbing imagery. I would say, so

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one of the weirdest. It is
absolutely so, Dave, what's one that

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sticks with you? So? For
me, this and the I want to

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call out the photography in this because
this is one of the few times they

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used a steady camp in Star Trek
the Next Generation. Yeah, and you

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can see the use of that in
the hallways and stuff like that, especially

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data as dream sequences. They're using
the steady camp, which for some reason

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they didn't use it a lot,
which she could all the time now,

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which I guess they really didn't see
an opportunity for that. But one of

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the things I loved about this episode
is the scenes with Troy in the hallway.

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Yes, this was how you're going
to talk about that? Yes,

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yes, they like a horror film. When she was in the hallway walking

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and then like all since he stops
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looks back and nothing's there. Man. I love that scene so much.

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It was like, is this Star
Trek? Yeah, well, I mean

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that was It's It's one of the
rare instances where the hallway isn't busy,

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there's at least one other person walking
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to great effect in this absolutely yeah. And this is a continuation of what

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we saw last season with Birthright Park
one. Now. I love the imagery

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that's shown here. I mean,
you know that that Troy cake. I

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wanted a piece of that that actually
looked pretty good. We all do,

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we all do? Yeah. And
you know the the images of doctor Crusher

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with the straw stuck in Riker's head, that's that's just weird. Yeah,

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well in the telephone, yeah,
the telephone that keeps right. Yeah,

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Okay, it's a crazy, a
really weird episode. And I love the

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fact that it's diving a little bit
more into uh Data's brain and how he

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processes all that. And it's kind
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kind of you know, I don't
know if they're their mind workers or if

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they're railroad workers or what, but
it kind of takes me back to times

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zero. Oh yeah, I didn't
start this, is that something I kind

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of stuck with him there, I
don't know, kind of interesting, I

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do know, in all this craziness
and weirdness of this episode, I still

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have to laugh hysterically when Warf is
looking for spot spot come here. Yeah,

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and then did they did give it
to him? He's a pretty cat

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cat tell him he's a pretty cat
like really yeah? And I want to

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point out there there were very little
guest stars in this episode, but uh

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Clyde Casatsu returns to play Admiral Nakamara. Now this this is a long stretch

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because he appeared once before, and
that was all the way back in season

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two Masure of the Man. It's
amazing that they brought him back to play

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that same character so long, and
then of course he appears later in the

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season, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's a it's an interesting,

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uh additional kind of guest star there
Bernard Cates playing doctor Sigmund Freud.

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I love uh Troy's line where she's
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me instead of doctor Freud. Waste
her time with that holiday. So I

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know this isn't the only kind of
darker episode that we get this season,

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Uh, Dave, I want to
talk to us about number two, all

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right? That would be dark page
directed by Les Landale and written by Hilary

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Peter. The Karen, another race
of telepathic beings are on board the Enterprise

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and a diplomatic mission to possibly join
the Federation. Joining them for this meeting

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is none other than Luxana Troy,
who is there to help with the delegations.

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However, during these important meetings,
Waxana suffers a breakdown and falls into

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a coma. It will take her
daughter Deanna to try and save her,

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but in doing this, she would
discover deep, dark secrets that Lousana has

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been trying to keep hidden. You
know, the funny thing is, you

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know, the last few seasons,
I've picked on Lolozana a little bit about

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some of her episodes, but this
was a fantastic episode. Yeah, yeah,

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I want to call out Hurston Dunce
in one of her very very young

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roles right before Interview with a Vampire. This was about a year before she

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would get very successful with Interview with
the Vampire. But Michelle Berrett being absolutely

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incredible again in her role as Loxana
Troy. I believe this is the last

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time on the Next Generation h we
would see her. I know she made

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a few appearances in Deep Space nine, but for Next Generation this would be

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the last time. So many good
scenes in this one. I one of

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the things I find funny was the
scene where the one poor guy was in

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the turblelift with Deanna and Luxanna and
he's like behind them as they're like telepathy

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talking to one another, and then
they start talking and he's like, what

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the heck's going on? Awkward?
Awkward. Yeah, this gets my vote

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for favored my of the season.
I love this episode. I think this

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is Majel Barrett's strongest. It's definitely
her most dramatic of her performances in the

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series. I really really liked this
episode and it was quite a quite a

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twist at the end of the episode
where we won't get into it. It's

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worth watching. Absolutely, it is
well the mother daughter relationship between la Woxanna

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and Deanna both performances. Oh my
god, goosebumps. It tears your heart

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out like it's and it has more
of this dream imagery, right, the

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more kind of you know, freaky
interpretations that we have. It really gives

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a lot of death to the Wox
on it. So I know, like

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you said, Dave, sometimes I
can feel like it's hit or miss,

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but this is definitely a hit.
So absolutely give give it a shot,

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and you can feel give the chemistry
here between those two actors. Yes,

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I mean the chemistry has been there
the entire series, but in this particular

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episode, Man, they were on
their a game, both of them were.

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And I wonder if there's a you
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some of those performances, you know, as that the both of the actors

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know that the series is ending and
they know that they won't necessarily, you

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know, appear together as characters,
or they may not. It's it's yeah,

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it was a stunning episode, isn't
forward? Like, what the hell

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do I do? I came in
for a robular nail. I get this.

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There are two other things missing from
this episode. Did you guys notice

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that the bridge never appears here?
Yeah, that's right, it didn't.

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And this is the only episode where
wauks In appears without mister Home. They

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mixed in him, but you don't
they do You're in. I guess they

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couldn't work out a schedule for him
to appear. He was in the original

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version of the script. But you
know, it just it's amazing. It's

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the only episode that the bridge doesn't
appear in. Well, Wayne, why

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don't you take us to our number
three episode? And that will be attached

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this is written by Nick Sagan and
directed by Jonathan Frakes and originally aired on

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November eighth, nineteen ninety three.
Captain Bicard and Doctor Crusher are preparing a

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diplomatic meeting with the Kess, one
of two races on the planet Kesprick that

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are at war with one another.
But when they've beamed down, their transporter

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signal is intercepted and the two find
themselves imprisoned in a prieate cell and have

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devices and planted in their necks that
link the two two of them together telepathically.

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Now desperate to escape and find their
way to safety, the Card and

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Beverly must also deal with their most
inner feelings and emotions revealed to one another.

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This is one of two episodes that
were written by Nick Sagan. As

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I mentioned, you know that's the
He's the son of the famous astronomer Carl

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Sagan. He would go to write
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Wager. But and and this also
is also missing something as well. LeVar

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Burton doesn't appear in this episode.
It's the only episode during the seventh season

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where that doesn't feature the entire cast. You know, I like this episode

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It's not one of my absolute favorites, but it is. It's a very

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good episode because of the fact that
we've got the Card and Crusher having to

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deal with their their personal feelings.
It's something that they've been kind of building

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up for the last two years,
but here they're they're forced to address it,

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and you know, we knew this
was coming, and and now it

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was nice to finally have gotten over
that hurdle and and see that these two

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were meant to be together. Yeah. One of the saddest things that happened

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in all of the Star Trek happened
in this episode. The Card loses that

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awesome jacket. Oh yeah, it's
in a cave somewhere, Jack, you

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can get it. You can still
get it. He throws it down,

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doesn't he? All, Yes,
he does. He throws it in the

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cave, and that we never see
it again. Yeah, but no.

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Seriously, though, this is a
really good episode. We're getting to see,

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you know, the inner thoughts of
two characters who they've been hinting at

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for a little while. But it
just added so much tension between the two

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of them, as you know,
you know, being attached, as the

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episode is called. But they can't
get far from one another. But the

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fact that you know, they got
to get used to hearing each other's inner

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thoughts just added that major dramatic level
that made it so much better being a

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big Fight of the thirteenth fan that
I am. I want to call out

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Tom Morga who plays a print guard
in this. He was the stunt double

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for Roy Jason in Fighting Thirteenth Part
five. I interesting. Interesting look up

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his list of credits. This dude
has been in I Want to Fake three

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four hundred films as a stunt dans
crazy. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's

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a very important episode for the relationship. Like they've been together since before far

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point right, or at least they've
they've had connections between each other. There's

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a lot of history back there,
so it does a great job of getting

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into a lot of that and kind
of subtext behind the relationship. But especially

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for future episodes, you know,
how does Piccard approach relationships when he doesn't

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have the crew. That's a very
important element of several seasons of the Picard

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series that follows this one. So
absolutely, if you're if you're hooked on

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what you've seen, there's much more
to come. You've got to watch this

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one, especially for those two characters. We're also getting to see a side

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of Riker two where he's starting to
show that command that captain and him in

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the conference room when he had both
parties in there, how he was getting

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aggravated with him and was really turning
the tables on both parties and how he

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did that. Yeah, you know, very intelligent move on his part,

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and it was his plan if he
knew what he was doing. And they

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just shows you Rikers into that position
now where he could take over ship.

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He a long time ago he could
have. But well, but you know,

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we know this episode it really highlights
the the growth of all the characters.

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I mean, you can think back
to the first season now, you

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know, you can never imagine them
doing what they're doing in this this season,

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but seven years they have really changed, They have grown, they have

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become familiar with one won each other. Yeah, I mean, it's fair

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warning. The Kesprit dynamic is going
to frustrate viewers. Oh yeah, just

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what it's supposed to do. Like
you've got these these two characters in Picard

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and Crusher that can't help but share
their thoughts and understand what's going on with

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the other more than they ever probably
wanted to or felt comfortable with. And

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then you've got two warring factions that
are just obtuse, like they won't see

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the other side at all. And
Lake, you said, Dave, hats

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off to Riker for handling that diplomacy
and just getting them out of their way.

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Yeah, they're so frustrating. Yeah, sure was. Well, I'll

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tell you what, before we get
into number four, let's take a quick

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break, and when we come back, we'll jump into Parallels. All right,

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we're back. Let me take into
number four. This one's called Parallels.

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It's a very important Wharf episode.
I've mentioned the two for episodes before

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as those that bear a second viewing, and this is absolutely one of those

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episodes. We open with Wharf returning
from a Batlist tournament where he earned champion

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status. Once he's back on the
Enterprise, he finds they're holding a surprise

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party for his birthday that he really
doesn't want to have. But then as

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he starts having many blackouts and noticing
that subtle changes are happening to the world

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around him. It starts when he
sees crew members switching places and paintings hanging

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on the wrong walls. But when
those changes seem further from the reality he

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knows, he starts to question if
he's in the right reality at all.

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This is written by Brandon Braggett and
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Speaking of the birthday party but they
host for Wharf, I had no idea

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until recently how troublesome or how problematic
the song Happy Birthday has been for several

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series. But you had to get
rights to people to even sing it,

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Like even restaurants weren't really able to
sing Happy Birthday, And that comes up

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here. They were supposed to singing
that for Wharf in Klingon Ease or in

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the original Klingon, but the producers
couldn't afford the asking price, so they

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just substituted for He's a jolly Goodfellow, which is a very interesting kind of

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thing to that even mentioned like there's
no word for Alley and pling On,

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and it was like, yeah,
that makes sense. Now that's not a

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problem anymore. They fixed that about
ten years ago, there was some big

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court case, but yeah, back
then that was a problem. It was

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a huge problem back then, which
is ridiculous, Like of all the basic

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songs. You can say this episode
was crazy, man. It was a

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toolutely crazy, very crazy, crazy
good. But I mean because there's so

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many scenes where like you get jolded
out of it because something changes, and

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like when warf was did that just
happen? You jumped too because you're like,

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wait a minute, yeah, he
wasn't right there, but now he

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is. Yeah. And that's one
of the benefits of the second viewing,

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because the first time you're trying so
hard to keep up that it's hard to

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like chase some of those little easter
eggs that are coming through. One example

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I found this time was seeing data
with blue eyes. Yeah. I don't

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think that's necessarily a spoiler, but
it was like, why is that somewhat

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unsettling? Like it's kind of cool
to a certain degree, but it's yep,

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it's a little that's a little odd. But you have to watch it

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a second time to see that,
and then once you catch on to what's

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actually happening. I don't know.
For me, it always those kind of

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episodes always bring me back for a
second watch. Oh yeah, absolutely.

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And then we get the guest appearance
of the one character and he's in gold

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you know, I'm talking about.
He looked good in gold Man. I

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could see him fitting in with his
crew quite easily in that position. I

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forgot that he was even in this
episode. I mean he just suddenly appears,

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you know, without any fanfare or
anything. I'm like, oh,

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that's right, I forgot. Yeah, And that's one thing worth saying,

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Like when you're when you're watching this
for the first time, there's a bunch

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of things that are going to change
on a dime. We have no warning

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whatsoever. Just stick with it.
You'll figure out what's going on. It's

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absolutely worth it. But for Wharf, this one turns a lot of things

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upside down and opens his mind,
I think, to some new possibilities and

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are going think about this. You
know, the original script didn't have Wharf

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doing the jumping. It was Picard. I mean you try to think of

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that, and our thought is probably
the same as the producers. You know,

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there would there wouldn't be much change
to Picard with him jumping back and

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forth between the parallels, not like
not like with Wharf, because they were

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true. You know, Wharf went
through a lot of different changes over the

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years, and and they had also
planned on including Tasha Y are in this

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episode, but they didn't want it
to seem like a sequel that Yesterday's Enterprise

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and anything like that, so they
wrote that out. That's a good move

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that they they took her out of
it and put in the other character instead,

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because it makes more sense. And
you're right, it would have felt

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like we've already been over this territory, why are we doing it again?

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give us when I talk about later her

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appearance later in the seat in the
season, it would have took away from

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that. I'm glad they didn't do
it. Oh yeah, absolutely, But

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I feel like anytime we see Denise
Crosby, whether she's Tasha or Cela or

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anybody else, it commands attention.
Ye be so pulled out of it to

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be like, wait a second,
what's going on with La Tasha? Where's

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this backstory? And yep, we
didn't need that. It needed to be

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quick changes and a lot of choices
that Wharf has to make. And again

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Wharf with the comedy gold when he's
in his room and the person's in the

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room with him and she doesn't leave. She goes to the bed and Warf

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slowly looks around the Wall figure out
what's going on. Let's let's talk about

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that. You know, this is
the first episode with the the Troy Wharf

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relationship. What do you think about
that? So good, so good.

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But yeah, there's so much good
stuff in this and we can't give away

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anything that happens at the end,
but there's some really good stuff that happens

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at the end of this episode that
just like will blow your mind on what's

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going on. And you know the
things that you see come up on the

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screen and stuff that happens. Man, fantastic those its bonanza. Yeah,

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it is absolutely yep. Yeah,
all right, Dave, take us to

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number five, all right, that
would be The Pegasus, directed mister LeVar

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Burton, written by Ronald D.
Moore. Riker's former commander of the Pegasus,

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Admiral Pressman, is beamed on board
of the Enterprise with a top secret

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assignment. It seems that Pegasus was
lost destroyed twelve years ago with most of

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his crew. Only Riker, Pressman
and a few others escaped, but it

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seems like it still exists and the
orders are to find it before the Romulants

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do. However, there are more
secrets that are not revealed to Captain Picard,

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which Commander Riker is very aware of
and must continue to keep it from

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those he cares about, putting him
in a very tough situation that could fracture

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relationships and lead to a repeat of
what happened on the Pegasus. You know,

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Terry O'Quinn is incredible in everything that
man does. He's done a lot,

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and he's done a lot, yes, but seeing him play Admiral pressman,

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man, does he do a fantastic
job. We could put him and

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Angelico in the same room and see
who's going to come out the winner,

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because man, those two guys are
just something else. Yeah, But Terry

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O'Quinn, and he just commands his
performance in this, and I can see

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why they chose him for this.
My understanding is they wanted him to come

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back, didn't they for the same
role later on? But I guess he

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wasn't able to do it. You're
right, Yeah, I think you're right.

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I heard that because I mean he
had been fantastic. I think he

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was for d Space nine. I
think he was offered to come back,

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but I guess they could figure that
out. That was right during the third

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season, the two parter where they
go back to Earth. I forgot about

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that. You're right, yep,
But so many good things happened in this

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episode. The Captain Picard Day is
absolutely hysterical, and try to turn that

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back on Riker. He's even funnier
between, you know, just showing their

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relationship together. But one of the
big ones. And Wayne, I'm gonna

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let you take this one. Talk
about the music and the composer of this

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all right, Well, you know, the music for this episode is an

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oddity for the season. It's the
only episode of the Next Generation scored by

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composer John Debney. You know,
he is a phenomenal composer. He's one

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of my favorites. I followed his
work ever since before even this. You

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know, he really wanted to work
on this series, but he could never

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get the producers to to pay him
any attention. I mean he got he

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got to score two episodes of Deep
Space nine earlier this year, the Negus

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and Progress, but he wanted to
work on the star show Next Generation,

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So in order to get the producers
to pay him attention, he went and

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took the job on the Spielberg TV
show C quest TSB hoping that you know,

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this big, high profile series would
would get their attention, and it

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worked. You know, He's always
said in many interviews that working on the

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show is one of the highlights,
one of his top five favorite things in

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his career. And I agree that
the score on this is phenomenally good.

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You know, he had to do
it twice. He had to do it

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twice. We went over in the
past seasons about Rick Berman and his idea

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of music, but he pulled it
off and it's it's it's great. I

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gotta give credit to Michael Mack in
this episode as coming in their serial.

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Oh yeah, oh, I like
one of my favorite kind of I don't

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know what you call it, not
necessarily a trope, but one of the

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things that they come back to quite
a bit is Picard's diplomacy on the bridge

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with other characters who come on.
You know, with this, it seems

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like they're they're very pleasant. It
seems like everybody's saying like, oh hello,

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I'm sorry. It seem to be
lost, and then it's kind of

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like this dripping with kindness. How
the card navigates that. It's one of

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my favorite things to watch in this
series in general, and his interaction with

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commanding serial is no different. He
just navigates that situation expertly. I think

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it's fantastic. And this episode brings
up the age old question of why doesn't

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the Federation use cloaking devices. This
is something that people have been asking for

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at this point twenty five years.
You know, it didn't make any sense,

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but you know here it's all explained. You know, simply put you

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Starfly doesn't sneak around. That's that's
it. Yeah, and that's good.

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They finally, I think even the
writer were Ronald Tymore talked about that they

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wanted to finally get that corrected so
that they got stopped getting asked about annoying.

404
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:22.319
Yeah. There's there's two incredible scenes
in this episode that I definitely want

405
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.319
to call out. One of those
is the scene between the Card and Riker

406
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.119
when the Card is trying to get
Riker to admit that he knows what's going

407
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:34.160
on and to tell him what's going
on and the Card's threat that he has.

408
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.240
And the other one is between Pressman
and Riker when Pressman looks at us,

409
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:41.359
I can make I I made you, and I can break you just

410
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:47.880
as easily. Both of those scenes
are just stand out for this entire episode.

411
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.960
This whole episode is really good,
but man, those two scenes just

412
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.039
you could just feel the goosebumps on
it when when it's being performed. Yeah,

413
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.839
all right, Wayne, tell us
about our number six pick and Number

414
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.599
six is Lower Deck, written by
Ronald Wilkinson and Jean Louise mathis directed by

415
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:08.440
Gabrielle Buant. Aired on February seventh, nineteen ninety four. On the lower

416
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.720
decks of the Enterprise, four young
ensigns find their friendship put to the test

417
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.680
when they discover they are up for
evaluation for the promotion. These four young

418
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:25.440
officers, Ensign Leavell, Insign Tauric
Nurse Ogala, and Ensign Cito Jackson,

419
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.519
all have their duties when the Enterprise
is assigned to assist in the tax of

420
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.640
helping a Cardassian spy, but one
of them may have to pay the ultimate

421
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.839
price to ensure the success of this
top secret mission. Well, this is

422
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.960
a much talked about episode and as
I come back later, it should be

423
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.920
You're right, it's it's definitely a
highlight of the seventh season. We see

424
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:53.039
the return of Sharon Phillis Cito Jackson
from season five's The First Duty we have,

425
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:59.519
also appearing as Dan Gantha is Nson
level. He was on at the

426
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.680
time More Melrose Place, and he
also did to Our Duty. And we

427
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.279
have Alexander Enberg as Incantauric. He
would go on to be a recurrent character

428
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.680
on Star Trek Voyager. And this
is the first episode of Spotlight. Patty

429
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.519
Asa takes Nurso Gowa. I mean, he's just been on the show for

430
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.759
three years and finally, you know, she gets a storyline of her own

431
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.519
right here. There's there's so much
you talk about this episode. I'm sure

432
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.039
you're going to bring up. Both
of you will bring up some of the

433
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.960
high points of this. The original
script, the original intention on the script

434
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.119
was to include Barkley with this.
I think that would have been a big

435
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.000
mistake. Agreed, he was just
too well known. We needed four characters

436
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.759
that we we'd never seen before or
barely known in the case of Cido,

437
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.359
you know, and and it works. I mean, this is a completely

438
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:55.920
different look at the Enterprise and a
very unique take to the next generation.

439
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.960
Yeah, Wayne and the Scotten and
are both of you you know, we

440
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.920
all know that this is what kind
of inspired the animated and lower decks that

441
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:11.200
we get today. But this is
my favorite episode of the entire seventh season.

442
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:17.920
It really pulls at the heart strings
a lot in this episode, and

443
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.240
you get to see the side of
the Enterprise you don't typically get to see,

444
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.240
which is what the animated lower Decks
does. It gives us a part

445
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.480
of a ship that we don't get
to see in the part of the crew

446
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.240
that we don't get to see.
Well. In this one, you get

447
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.720
to meet some new characters. You
know, you get to know them really

448
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.359
fast, you know. I mean
we've seen Seto before obviously, you know,

449
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.000
as you said, from first Thuty
from the previous season, but some

450
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.799
of the scenes between her and Picard
are just some of the best writing of

451
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:51.400
scene. Picard is just so hard
on her, and at first you're like,

452
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:52.920
God, damn Parkard, give her
a break, you know, I

453
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.319
mean, she understands what she did. But then when you start seeing what

454
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.400
Picard's doing and you realize what's going
on with the story and what the Card

455
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:07.160
is going to ask of her,
you realize what he's doing and why he

456
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.680
is doing it, and I just
think it's some of the best scenes with

457
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.519
the Card and a crew member that
you know, we don't have already got

458
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.519
to know and getting to see that
Thusito's eyes, it's it's tough for her

459
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.880
man, Yeah, you know,
it's just you struggle with her and she

460
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:28.640
wants to find her place, and
she understands the mistakes she has done and

461
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.799
she admits that, and she even
man the ball that takes for her to

462
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:37.319
confront Picard like she does about that. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And

463
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.720
the episode is shown from their viewpoints. You know, we don't get the

464
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:46.319
full story because the lower decks wouldn't
wouldn't get the the full debriefing on the

465
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:51.400
mission. You know, they would
they would find out when it involved them.

466
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.440
And I love that. It was
a it was a build up,

467
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.720
you know, seeing it seeing the
main cast, the big characters from their

468
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:04.000
viewpoint. I think I think it's
a really big and brave swing for their

469
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.519
last season. Yes, love this
episode. I think it's fantastic. And

470
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:15.200
you're showing that moment in a Starfleet
officer's life, and you're taking a brave

471
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.119
direction by continuing somebody from the first
duty knowing but Wesley went through, what

472
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.559
the rest of his crew went through
with that, and where do they go

473
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:30.519
from here? I think it absolutely
opens up a lot of possibilities for them

474
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.359
in the future. Obviously. We
see that come through in Lower Decks,

475
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:38.279
the animated series, which definitely has
a different tone, but it keeps the

476
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:45.000
same heart as this episode. And
that's something that absolutely comes through and something

477
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.960
that people who are kind of on
the fence about whether or not they want

478
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:54.200
to watch Lower Decks just know that
it absolutely maintains the heart of this episode

479
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.240
specifically. But this type of episode
in terms of seeing the ensigns, it's

480
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.799
not all comedy. No, there's
a lot of serious beats they get into.

481
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.519
And yeah, this one which should
have you know, on the on

482
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.800
paper, it feels like something that
should just be a filler episode. We

483
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.079
check in on the encense and we
see that from them. No, no,

484
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.840
it goes to such a serious place
and it's a it's an excellent,

485
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.280
excellent episode. I'm talking about it. And another scene that I really want

486
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.480
to call out is the contrast of
showing the insigns playing cards and the bridge

487
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:32.159
crew playing cards. Yeah, the
way they went back and forth between those

488
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.360
two scenes of what was going on, and then you even bring in the

489
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.719
Bin character who is at both locations. You know, he shows up at

490
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.559
the end with the bridge crew and
sits with them. Man, I love

491
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.320
those two scenes. That is why
I love this episode so much. It's

492
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:51.519
just so well developed the key cast, I would say, even though there

493
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:57.159
are major developments in it, for
them, it's it's standalone about characters that

494
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.559
don't necessarily fit with the rest of
the the ship, but they deserve to

495
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.199
be heard. It's a major development
for the series though, to be able

496
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.639
to turn and tell a story like
this in their final season. You can

497
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.679
see again just how far the show
has went. But I'll tell you what

498
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.760
I think. That's a good place
to take a little bit of a break

499
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.920
before we get into number seven.
We'll come back and talk about I of

500
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:25.400
the Beholder, all right, So
back from a quick break, let's talk

501
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.199
about number seven, I of the
Beholder. So this episode opens with a

502
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.239
shocking scene as one crew member threatens
to jump into a critical part of the

503
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.440
ship and end their own life.
His death leads counselor Troy to an investigation

504
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:44.159
into his suicide, which quickly becomes
a mysterious look into the past. We

505
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.679
also see the beginnings of her relationship
with a member of the crew there.

506
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.159
She lives long enough to serve out
the visions that threaten her sanity and her

507
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:58.320
life. This is written by Brandon
Braga and Rene Ecaveria. They keep coming

508
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.880
back to these three. I don't
know how, I'm just lucky. And

509
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:09.599
directed by Cliff Bowl. There's a
very very very interesting guest appearance here by

510
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.960
Mark Rolston, who we've talked about
in My favorite movie from nineteen eighty six,

511
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:22.880
Aliens Private Drake there. I was
surprised to know that he is also

512
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:29.760
the voice of Lex Luthor in the
Young Justice animated series, and he plays

513
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:35.199
Norman Osborne in the Insomnious Spider Man
games for the PlayStation, which was a

514
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.719
revelation for me. Like, when
you see his face depicted as Norman Osborne,

515
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:44.039
it's uncandy. I'm like, oh
my god, it's Drake. It

516
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.119
also has one of the more disturbing
uses of a skeleton in start, which

517
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:53.320
I won't say where, but man, that's this surprised the heck out of

518
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.599
me. Yep, this is an
odd episode. It really is an odd

519
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.159
episode. It's a very creepy episode. These visions are really disturbing, and

520
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.400
then we you know, we start
the episode off like with a punch,

521
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.079
Yeah, with the crewmen jumping in. That's just it's shocking and you know

522
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.159
it. It's this is farther than
the series has ever went when it comes

523
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:19.079
to too dark disturbing episode. Yeah, and this is the first time we

524
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:20.960
get to see inside of a work
no cell too, is it not?

525
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.960
Yeah, it is. Yeah,
that's odd too. Up until this point,

526
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.880
until I first saw this episode,
I didn't even know you get up

527
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.239
in there. I thought it was
all but you know, but they actually

528
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.360
have people that are stationed there.
That's got to be a very lonely job

529
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.360
and the danger for when if you
think about it, because that where you're

530
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:38.760
gonna be getting shot at to try
to get shoot your new cell so you

531
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.320
can't move anywhere. Yeah, that's
that's where all the Klingons always aim at.

532
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.840
Yeah, that's like the gunner World
War two. Man, that's a

533
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.480
position you don't want. Yeah,
I'll just let people at their desk have

534
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.519
like anything that they want. What
do you guys need like a cappucino machine

535
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.400
over there? You know, maybe
some rails would be good in this episode,

536
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.679
just you know, on the other
side of something doors. But now

537
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.480
it goes to very interesting places.
We've talked before about Counselor Troy and the

538
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.320
burden that she has to bear the
weight that she has to bear for this

539
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.440
ship in terms of taking care of
everybody's mental health. I certainly hope she's

540
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.880
not the only one for doing that
for the entire ship, because my god,

541
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.159
if you just take care of the
bridge crew, you get a full

542
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:32.159
time job. Yeah, that's true, but some very interesting deep dives into

543
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.800
the kind of things that she has
to do day to day beyond dealing with

544
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.960
a crew member suicide, but how
people are dealing with that and the what

545
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.719
she has to go through on her
own. You know, it's a little

546
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.440
bit torturous and it's going to mess
with her own mind obviously. You know

547
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.079
that you brought up a big point
that I've never really ever thought about.

548
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.239
You know, is it just her
with you know, we get over a

549
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.800
thousand people on this ship. Well, you know, Crusher, she has

550
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.639
her own team, right, I
mean, she has to handle everyone,

551
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.559
and we never see anybody else helping
her, right, Yeah, good,

552
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.000
we've never seen anybody to according to
that, she's by herself. I've never

553
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.760
thought of that. I thought that
she at least I hope she at least

554
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:21.519
has her own medical staff. Maybe
there's some lieutenant junior grades or ensigns at

555
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.119
least that are able to, you
know, learn from her, because if

556
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.760
Troy is taken out, who's taking
care of all these people? Right,

557
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.519
but at least being able to you
know, maybe kind of triage for Troy

558
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.360
and you know, helped to take
care of out of the ongoing needs.

559
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.559
But yeah, it's got her hands
full. Absolutely. And this continues themes

560
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.440
too from parallels between Troy and Wharf
that you get to see a lot in

561
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.800
here, which obviously has a lot
to do with what her visions that she's

562
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.280
seeing in this episode. It is
a really good mystery that you get in

563
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.480
this episode. You're on pins and
needles the whole time. Man, I

564
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.159
love this episode. You're right,
it's not something we ever seen in Star

565
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:05.159
Trek or have got received to see
in Star Trek. I loved it for

566
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.800
just that very reason. But here's
a funny note. If you didn't past

567
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.719
notice this at first, go back
and watch the episode again. Apparently Marina

568
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.320
Sotis had lip injections prior to filming
this episode. Her upper lip is it

569
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:25.360
more prominent than any than her than
usual. I saw that I would advise

570
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.840
and it might just be me build
in like an extra ten minutes for watching

571
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.440
this episode, because once they once
the revolution or the resolution comes around and

572
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.800
they understand what's actually going on.
Yeah, it took me a while to

573
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:44.039
figure out what was happening because I
had so many preconceived notions about who was

574
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.679
doing what or what was leading to
it. When they explained it, I

575
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.800
was like I had I had to
rewind that at least two or three times.

576
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.679
I'll just damn it all right,
Dave, I guess the number eight.

577
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.239
That would be Journeys and directed by
Corey Allen and written by Ronald D.

578
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.000
Moore. The Cardassians have been given
new territory by the Federation due to

579
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.320
a peace treaty which reassigned certain planets
for both parties, and one of them

580
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.880
just so happens to be inhabited by
Native American colonists who have been there for

581
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:19.239
twenty years. History begins to repeat
itself as Picard is forced to remove them,

582
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.159
and to make matters worse, the
Cardassians have arrived earlier have been expected.

583
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.719
Meanwhile, Wesley Crusher, who was
on leave from Starfleet, seems different

584
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.280
and is invited down to the planet
by one of the Native Americans who says

585
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.159
he has seen him in his visions. It is here Wesley learns of a

586
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.480
different path that is put in front
of him that will change his life forever.

587
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.719
You know, when I first I
remember way back then, when I

588
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.400
first saw the trailer for this episode
what was coming, I was kind of

589
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.119
like, really, we're going to
go over this territory again that we've seen

590
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.880
so much. But watching it and
then watching it again like I did recently,

591
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.599
and this is a good episode.
It really puts Picard into position that

592
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.239
he doesn't like to be in,
and of course nobody would want to be

593
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.159
in. And then when you find
out about his family's past, it really

594
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.039
puts him on, you know,
on edge of what he has to do

595
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.519
and needs to do. And then
when the conductor the Kardassians show up,

596
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.079
and then you know, the fighting
starts that this man so much stuff just

597
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.079
goes off the rails here. It
becomes a mass. Yeah, and then

598
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.480
Wesley's showing up and then just acting
like a jackass. Right there, I

599
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.920
want to say, shut up,
Wesley, because the way he was treating

600
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.599
his mom, he's treating Jordan,
I'm like, what the hell's your problem?

601
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.639
Man? But then you realize what
was going on in his life,

602
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.480
and you know, you start realizing, all right, maybe I've had this

603
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.960
kind of feeling before too in my
life that I'm questioning of what's going on.

604
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.559
So it really made it made a
lot of sense. So overall I

605
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.880
liked this episode. Yeah, it's
definitely one where you know, there's a

606
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.840
lot of I'm not exactly sure where
the shift happened in the movie. We've

607
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.360
talked about it before, but there
are a lot of times where you're they're

608
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.679
questioning orders, they're questioning what's the
right thing to do here. I know

609
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.280
what Starfleet is asking to do,
I know what it seems like the straightforward

610
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.599
thing to do should be, but
it really isn't, and there's a lot

611
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.679
more thought that goes into it,
and there's a lot more that somebody has

612
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.639
to do to make a personal decision
as far as how they want to go

613
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.920
forward. When I watched this for
the second time, Dave, I agree.

614
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.960
I watched it the first time and
I was like, well, I

615
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.960
don't know if I really want this
episode because it did feel like territory would

616
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.960
kind of explored before. But knowing
how important it is for Wesley Crusher's character,

617
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.199
it is absolutely worth watching. And
with what we were just talking about

618
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:46.719
with Lower Decks thinking of the first
Duty and Lower Decks and episode as kind

619
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.360
of a trilogy arc for Wesley,
it absolutely has to be seen. And

620
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:59.320
I'm still not sure at the end. You know that everybody made the right

621
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.639
decision, but you will understand a
little bit more how are those decisions can

622
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.719
be and doing It's a tough situation, man, how do you get out

623
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:12.159
of that? Yeah? Yeah,
this episode when it first aired, this

624
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.880
it was obviously this is the beginning
of the end for the series. This

625
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:22.199
is we're starting to wrap up storylines
and plus you know this episode, along

626
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.639
with the two parter Deep Space nine
that was airing at the same time called

627
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.000
the McKee uh, this is the
beginning where of the setup for Star Trek

628
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.280
Voyager. You know that they're they're
starting to lay the seeds for the upcoming

629
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.280
series and can close the storylines for
the next generation. You know, the

630
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:46.559
colony here is intended to be the
home of Commander Checkote. Yeah, and

631
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.480
you don't They don't really say that
because I don't know if the character had

632
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.000
been created yet. I know they
were still in the writing stage. But

633
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:59.559
that's that was is what they've come
up with in continuity. Plus, you

634
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.280
know, we get the character of
gall of Beck. He really gets around.

635
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.000
You know, he's been jumping back
and forth between this this series and

636
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.360
Deep Space nine and then he'll appear
again on Voyager. You know, he

637
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.079
we see a lot of him.
Richard Poe. He just fantastic. Yeah.

638
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.719
Yeah, And I believe this episode
two lays the groundwork for the d

639
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:22.400
m Z too, doesn't it sets
up for the that's right, yeah,

640
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.800
yeah, yeah. And you know
another thing I do want to point this

641
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:31.480
out because I caught this on the
the watch of this for the notes here,

642
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:37.599
just like h well, after you
get done watching for Troy's Big Lip,

643
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:43.920
watch the scene where Wesley follows Lacanta
up the stairs. You'll you'll real

644
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.559
quick briefly spot one of the sound
men standing and shot, Oh okay,

645
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:57.960
boss, that's that's a member of
the Q. Continue. They gotta they

646
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.679
gotta pay the mortgage. That's right, all right, Wayne, Let's take

647
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.480
it to number nine, all right. That's Preemptive Strike, written by Narren

648
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:13.199
Shanker and Renee at Tavaria and directed
by Patrick Stewart. Originally aired on May

649
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:19.800
sixteenth, nineteen ninety four, The
Enterprise is sent into the recently created Cardassian

650
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.559
Federation Demilitarized Zone to infiltrate a Mackie
cell who has been committing acts of terrorism

651
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:30.800
against the Cardassians. Their plan is
to send the newly promoted Lieutenant Roe Laren

652
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.599
into their mist to draw the McKey
out into the open and arrest them,

653
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:39.159
but Lieutenant Rowe begins to question her
allegiances and finds herself making a decision that

654
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:44.519
could put her career in Starfleet in
jeopardy. Well, you know, as

655
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.280
I just said this, we have
the return. Haven't been seen since last

656
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.800
season of Michelle Forbes's Roe Laren.
This will be her final appearance on the

657
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:59.639
Next Generation and her only appearance this
season. She last appeared at the early

658
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.079
in season six and Rascals and Again. This episode, just like journeys In,

659
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:10.719
is continuing the setup for the upcoming
Star Trek Voyager series. This was

660
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:16.119
originally intended that the instructor that Roe
mentions joined the McKee was going to be

661
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:22.639
Chick Coote as well, but that
didn't quite fit with the continuities. Later

662
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.239
established that he had resigned his commission
two years before. That would have happened,

663
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.360
so they they just kind of ignored
that. That's just something that they

664
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.880
just hoped everybody would forget. This. This is a I love this episode.

665
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:37.760
I love it for a lot of
things. I love it because of

666
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:44.679
Michelle's Forbes appearances. I love it
because of her interaction with Patrick Stewart.

667
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.639
Those are some of the Yah make
it Up life scenes. Oh wow.

668
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.519
I love it because of Jay Chataway's
beautiful score that he wrote for this.

669
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:58.400
You know, I never really paid
close attention until it came out on CD

670
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.239
a few years ago, and it
is just beautiful. The whole episode is

671
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.519
an incredible experience. We're right at
the end of the season now, so

672
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:15.440
you know, once again we're closing
out storylines. But boy, I'm sure

673
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:16.920
you guys will bring up more of
this, but this this is one of

674
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.199
my favorites. Didn't wasn't the intention
Michelle Forth to be on Voyager? No,

675
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.480
it was Deep Space nine. Actually, yeah, she was going to

676
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:31.679
be the second the second main character, but she didn't want to commit to

677
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.719
doing another TV series, so they
wrote the character of Kia Kiara Nourice for

678
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:44.880
it, and that kind of soured
her relationship with the producers of star Trek.

679
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.559
They weren't sure she's going to come
back, but after hearing what their

680
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.360
plans were, and you know,
she changed her mind. She wanted to

681
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.159
do this to close out the character, and as good as she did,

682
00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:00.480
because glad you didn't. Yeah,
because what happens in this episode has a

683
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:05.519
lot of implications with the Card and
we could see that later on into the

684
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.760
Cards series, which we're not gonna
give you explore in anything away. But

685
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.880
when it does happen, you know, it's it's a big shocker for all

686
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.360
of us. And it adds so
much drama between the characters too, And

687
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:23.840
they've got a fascinating relationship they do
like all they do. There were times

688
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.800
when they were they were so close. I was wondering if there was some

689
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.840
kind of you know, relationship happening. I don't necessarily think that's the case,

690
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:38.519
but considering where they were when they
started out, it's it's very interesting

691
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:45.400
to see how far they've come and
how much, you know, she's basically

692
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:52.599
welcomed into the Fold as part of
the Bridge crew and then sent on a

693
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:58.280
mission that has a lot of moral
ambiguity, to say the least. I

694
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:05.360
think the Maquis is a very very
interesting set of characters. It's an interesting

695
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.440
premise to go through, and I'm
glad that that's introduced here and that it's

696
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:15.960
explored more on DS nine and on
Voyager. I think that's a brave place

697
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:21.760
to go for the franchise. Honestly, it is. I think Michelle Forbes

698
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:28.280
knocks it out of the park with
this performance is Rolin. It's it makes

699
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:32.719
me want to go and watch some
of the previous episodes with Rolerin and dig

700
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.039
into it. I'm glad that they
made the decision. They did nothing against

701
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.880
Michelle Forbes. But you know,
Kira Maurice, I can't imagine DS nine

702
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.519
without that character. We'll get into
that a lot more. It would have

703
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.079
been different, it would have been
a different dynamic. Yeah, yeah,

704
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:54.599
yeah, And getting more of a
look into the Bajoran life and what they've

705
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.280
been put through with the Cardassians.
It is so complex, I'm so intricate.

706
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:07.880
But then just one morning for Jeff, Admiral Cheyev is in this episode,

707
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:13.800
so jee so, you know,
and I want to point out another

708
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.039
guest staring this episode, the leader
the Maquis is playing by John Franklin Robbins.

709
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.199
You know, He does a wonderfully
warm joff for a guy who's playing

710
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.880
a terrorist. You know, I
can understand why why Iro liked him,

711
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:30.639
but I'm familiar with him because way
back in nineteen seventy five, he appeared

712
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.400
as a time Lord on Doctor Who. He is the time Lord that sent

713
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.199
the Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane on
a mission to stop the creation of the

714
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.559
Daleks. An incredible episode. Scott. I don't know about you, but

715
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:47.440
I'm really shocked that Wayne was able
to find somebody from Doctor whose universe it

716
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.519
is? But no, Wayne,
I really liked him in this role.

717
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.920
I felt like that was rose connection
to almost him reminding her of his of

718
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.920
her father. Yeah, you know, I really, I really did,

719
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.679
and I think that's what pulled her
to the Machis the way it did,

720
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.159
And I think they needed that character. And you're right, it felt kind

721
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.440
of odd that somebody liked that was
a terrorist, But when you realize what

722
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.360
they're doing, and it made well
you got to see both sides too.

723
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.920
Yes, the Federation and the Kardassians
are claiming them as terrorists, but the

724
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.199
Joran see them as freedom fighters.
And that was a huge point on Deep

725
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.880
Space nine. You know, the
storyline, so it all depends on which

726
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.559
side of the line you're standing on. Well, I'll close us out with

727
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.480
number ten, which just happens to
be the last episode all good things.

728
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.639
In this two hour conclusion of the
entire series, Captain Picard finds himself shifting

729
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:43.679
between the past, the present,
the past and the future, from his

730
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:47.280
first day on the Enterprise before the
far Point mission in this past to his

731
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.559
future as a retired admiral tending to
Chateau Picard. The only constant is Picard's

732
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:58.719
awareness that something is threatening all of
existence, and that reason might be Picard

733
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:05.760
himself. Written by Ronald D.
Moore and Brandon Brega, directed by Winrick

734
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:12.000
Colby. This is one that I've
got to admit, I've seen this several

735
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.159
times. It makes me a little
dizzy. The narrative makes me pretty dizzy

736
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.880
every time. So when I talk
about episodes that are worth rewatch, this

737
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.039
is absolutely one of them once you
find out what's going on. It's two

738
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:29.639
hours, so that's a big commitment, but definitely worth it. Production on

739
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:34.639
started Generations apparently was beginning while this
episode was made. Like you said,

740
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:40.719
Wayne, it was good to know
that they had kind of that look to

741
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.719
the future that was happening at the
same time. But knowing how emotionally exhausting

742
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:52.239
this, even just the idea of
doing this episode had to be I'd have

743
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.079
to take a couple of breaths if
I'm one of the crew having to do

744
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.960
this, being like this one means
a lot. But there's there's a lot

745
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.239
in this one. There is one, so much jumping around, so many

746
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:12.280
different sets and callbacks and guest appearances
that are really really worthwhile, even the

747
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.039
costume changing. Yeah. Yeah,
and it was perfect. I mean everything

748
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.920
they did was perfect. This had
to be a big one. I mean

749
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.639
this this was the series finale,
and in my opinion, they did it

750
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:29.360
perfectly, right. Yeah, the
best of the fine season finales for all

751
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.480
of them. It's it's a bookend. Yeah, I mean, you know,

752
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.760
going back to the events of Encounter
far Point, the season or the

753
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:43.679
series premiere for the series season finale
was was perfect. I'm genius, you

754
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.719
know, we we I never thought
we'd come back to that, but you

755
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:51.440
know, the trial never ends,
and you know, they couldn't have ended

756
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.519
the series better. Yeah. And
what I like about this one too,

757
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.320
And I don't know who mentioned earlier
when we were talking about Parallels with it.

758
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.039
I don't know if if you ever
Scott, but when you were talking

759
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.960
about Picard was supposed to be the
role of Wharf for Parallels. Well,

760
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.840
in this episode you do get a
card kind of in that role now because

761
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.880
you get those edits where you're back
and forth and the scenes are changing constantly

762
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.039
with him. You know, he's
talking about one thing, the next thing

763
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.840
you know, he's on a different
bridge, or he's you know, you

764
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.280
know, he's at home in France, but it's like, what's it's.

765
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.119
So you get those same weird edits
that you were getting in Parallels, and

766
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:28.360
it worked so well in this and
you're right waying. I mean, this

767
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.519
is such a good book and to
the entire series, and I agree this

768
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.159
is the best finale of all of
the Star Treks and the question, the

769
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.800
look in the detail that they put
into this is just phenomenal. I mean,

770
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.079
you know, we've got the future
scenes are great, we got new

771
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.360
uniforms, we got new ships.
Then you know we go back to the

772
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.440
to the past scenes and they have
recreated the look from the pilot perfectly.

773
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.840
I mean, you got you got
yar, you got a Brian back,

774
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:01.039
you got Troy wearing her cheerleader outfit
with her, and you know, they

775
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.880
even went and changed the sets because
the sets had changed over the years,

776
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.559
and they went back and dug out
all the old stuff and and and rebuild

777
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:14.199
it. They spent a lot of
time on detail and it really shows.

778
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:21.320
Yeah, and I was just gonna
say, there's also an important medical condition

779
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.880
that comes up in this one that
makes it absolutely essential viewing for at least

780
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:30.320
for the Piccard series follow up,
if not of the other instances where Card

781
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:37.840
comes up. The way that that's
handled I thought was absolutely beautiful, especially

782
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.519
because it has so much to do
with what he's experiencing and how they're kind

783
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:47.719
of rationalizing his point of view in
the future. It's it's a very important

784
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.719
thing to mention and it's got to
be scary for Picard given what that means

785
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.719
for his future. So absolutely worth
watching, And yeah, I applaud them

786
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.320
for where they went with this.
This I feel like was a brave direction

787
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.679
that could have been very, very
confusing, even though it still is to

788
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.239
a certain degree. But once you
know what's happening, you you fall in

789
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:15.280
line with it, and I think
they could have gone to much different places

790
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.599
with him being confused with all the
time jumps, but when they explain how

791
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:22.079
that works, it's it's just done
really really well. Yeah. And with

792
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:28.639
Q, you know, he's he's
causing the time jumps, but he's he's

793
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.000
giving a gift to Picard really,
I know, allowing him to take a

794
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:37.719
look at the future and and see
what what the path that they're they're heading

795
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.800
towards, which fortunately does not become
the path that they do end up on.

796
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:47.079
But you know, Q sometimes has
looked as a bad guy, but

797
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:51.440
not in this not in this story, really not here, I think,

798
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.719
I think actually he is helping,
helping Picard and helping the other crews the

799
00:57:54.840 --> 00:58:00.519
Enterprise to strengthen their future. You
know. Yeah, and come on,

800
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.119
we all got a mis seeing dated
with all the cats. That was hysterical.

801
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.840
Oh yeah, a good job to
the writers. Absolutely gray streak and

802
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.360
his hair, yeah, perfect,
perfect. Well, I know that in

803
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.480
when we talked about Tapestry, it
was never necessarily resolved whether that really was

804
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:21.440
cute or not. But you do
see so much of his growth, you

805
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:24.599
know, when we first meet him, he's almost like mister mc sistol plick,

806
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.960
right, Yeah, you're right,
right, Yeah, but he's grown

807
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:32.719
to respect the card I think as
much as he's wanted to kind of mess

808
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.840
with them. It's a little bit
more like, how can I nudge you

809
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:42.480
toward awareness without handing you the answer
and wanting to you know, see his

810
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.360
growth personally aside from the species overall. So, yeah, just getting to

811
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.960
relive a lot of those memorable moments
that we saw that you know, years

812
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.079
ago at this point was really neat
to see. But one of the things

813
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:55.760
that I want to call out too. I don't know if you both know

814
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.199
that the or not, but Patrick
Stewart and Jonathan Frakes were the only only

815
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:04.159
actors appear in every episode of the
series. Yeah, you're right. Interesting,

816
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:07.960
Yeah, considering how busy data is, that's yeah, that's very surprising.

817
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.159
You know, this this finale was
huge at the time. You know,

818
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:20.000
it was highly advertised, highly publicized
with in all the magazines you know,

819
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.519
uh most of the time back then
in the nineties, the Next Generation

820
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:28.880
aired after the regular programming. It
was a syndicated show, so the network

821
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:30.239
could stick it in anywhere they would, and they usually showed it in around

822
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.679
ten o'clock. I know, for
me, it was Thursdays at ten o'clock,

823
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.880
usually on Fox. They were the
ones that mostly bought it at the

824
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:45.920
time because their program ending ended at
ten o'clock. But in nineteen ninety four,

825
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:49.960
the Next Generation was constantly pulling in
better ratings than many of the network

826
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:54.320
shows, and so for this finale, a lot of the channels preempted their

827
00:59:54.400 --> 01:00:00.119
scheduled program to get the actual network
program and moved The Next Generation down to

828
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.360
an eight o'clock slot instead of showing
what they would normally show. And because

829
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.599
of that, this ended up being
the highest rated episode of the series.

830
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:13.880
It got a seventeen point four on
the Nielsen scale, which is if you

831
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.599
look at it's only two million viewers, less than Seinfeld at the time.

832
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.920
Just shows how big this show was
at the time. Yeah, Yeah,

833
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.920
and it won. It won the
nineteen ninety five Hugo Award for Best Dramatic

834
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:31.159
Presentation. It was nominated for four
Ammy Awards. Outstanding Individual Achievement for Special

835
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:37.320
Visual Effects is the one it won. But this was huge, and on

836
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.480
top of that, they even made
a documentary that aired a couple days before

837
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:43.920
It's called Journeys in the Saga Star
Trek. The niction generation. I remember

838
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.480
that because they showed that behind the
scenes on how they filmed this episode.

839
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:52.480
It was hosted by Jonathan Frakes,
and it was the very first time that

840
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.239
we actually got to look at the
sets for a Star Trek Voyager again one

841
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:59.519
last time. I want to call
that warf for a comedic moment. So

842
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.440
when Picard was on the bridge and
he's back right before encounter at far point

843
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.039
and he's going to the card going
around queue que What is a queue?

844
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.920
Oh? Yeah, the alphabet.
As far as I know, I love

845
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:15.599
that. Well, i'll tell you
what, guys, we've talked about a

846
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.679
lot. We still got a little
bit more to go. So uh hanging

847
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.119
there with us. We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll come back.

848
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:30.119
We'll wrap up this last part of
Starter Trek's TNG. All right, we're

849
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.559
back, So let's look at dis
honorable mentions. So these Picard face Paul

850
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:38.320
moments, I think I know what
mine is going to be, but I'll

851
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.679
defer to the room first. Dave, Oh, give to me to wait.

852
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:45.559
All right, Wayne, let's start
with you. Yeah. Well,

853
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.239
I'm glad you're starting with me because
I think I'm going to disagree with you

854
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:53.119
guys, I'm going to choose a
force of nature. It fell in the

855
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:57.360
middle of the season. This is
where a group of scientists discovered that everyone

856
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.199
warping around the galaxy is damaging the
fabricous space. So they create a speed

857
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.920
limit for all starships work five,
which that that's a ridiculous thing. I

858
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.960
mean, it's mentioned like twice afterwards
in Star Trek and then it's completely forgotten.

859
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.960
Yeah. I guess just like in
the real world, no one obeys

860
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.559
the speed limit in space, you
know, as well as you know,

861
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.239
to make to make matters worse,
they spend so much time on on data

862
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:27.800
trying to train his cat's spots and
you know, try to get him to

863
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.480
not tear up the Enterprise. That
which would be funny in any other episode,

864
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.599
but not this one. This one
falls flat for me. All right,

865
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.480
Yeah, I can see that having
troublesome little speed limit signs floating out.

866
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:42.960
That's that's a good pick. That's
a good pick. Are they gonna

867
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.000
have to cops? Yeah, so
we might all have a different one on

868
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:51.599
this one. I like this.
So my episode is Masks. The crew

869
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:55.360
of the Enterprise discovers a comment which
has like an archive from an ancient culture,

870
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:00.519
Data becomes possessed with one of the
beings and that the card has to

871
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:07.079
approach Data as another being. Brin
Spinder even laughs about this episode, so

872
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.719
you know, I'm gonna agree with
him on this one. The story doesn't

873
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:14.800
make sense and we don't really get
a conclusions. It is so weird.

874
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.280
It is Yeah, no, thank
you. Well, I think mine is

875
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.920
the one that Wayne is going to
disagree with. I tried watching this one

876
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.679
again because I had heard so many
people kind of lambasted, and I was

877
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.199
like, all right, well,
how bad is it really? Sub rosa?

878
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:37.679
I just oh, boy, Like, you know, everybody has their

879
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:43.760
own thing and that's totally fine.
This one, like it was interesting for

880
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:50.159
a minute to see Crusher's family backstory. I do think it's interesting how many

881
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:54.440
you know, like transporting pieces of
Scotland to other planets, and it's kind

882
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:58.079
of interesting how many times that kind
of thing is done. But then the

883
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:05.079
whole, the whole aspect of the
candle with you know, Dracula stunt double

884
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:14.119
as as this sexy cast bird that's
seducing Crusher, and you know, I

885
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:15.039
was, I was, I was, I was, all right, I'm

886
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.079
gonna Okay, so there's a candle
and she's being haunted. Okay, this

887
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.639
is going to Canda. His Spookie
plays okay, cool. Then she starts

888
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:27.719
talking to Troy about how, yeah, my grandma, who is like eighty,

889
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.800
was dating this other guy or you
know, took on a lover and

890
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.159
they were so passionate and all this
other kind of stuff, and now he's

891
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.239
my lover. And it was kind
of like, wait a second, the

892
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.400
grandma that you just put in the
ground, you're gonna sleep with the same

893
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:47.440
bad that she was sleeping with that's
like thirty years old. And then this

894
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:54.280
the scene where you know, uh
credit to Ellen Albertini Dowell, who plays

895
01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:02.079
Pressure's relative, gets possessed by this
evil Casper. Not to spoil things,

896
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:10.079
but sits straight up in the coffin
and Moscow, Mosco, Moosco. I

897
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:15.639
love that. It's so it's it's
so like, what like any other season,

898
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:20.679
it would have felt like more fun, but the more like when we

899
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.800
get this kind of thing in the
last season, it seasons like, you

900
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:30.440
know, you've only got so many
episodes left and you use it on Subarosa.

901
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:31.679
It just didn't hit for me,
but Wayne, I would be fascinating

902
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.199
to hear your perspective. I love
this episode, probably for the wrong reasons,

903
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:39.960
but it makes me every time.
It makes me laugh. I mean

904
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.159
when she sets up in a coffin
and zaps everyone. I I that's sisterious,

905
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:48.519
you know, and and you know
Crusher having her a little romandica uh,

906
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.480
you know, sexual things with the
candle. It's just it's just funny.

907
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.679
It's hilarious. Does it is it? Is it a good episode?

908
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.599
No, but it's one of my
favorites. It's and say it's worth watching.

909
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:06.559
I mean for curiosity if nothing else, I'm good. Yeah, there's

910
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:10.599
like no, no, no,
don't even rewatch it. That's not a

911
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.320
two for I'm not suggesting that,
but yeah, I'd be interested to see,

912
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.159
like, what's the epilogue for Prussure
going back to the ship for try

913
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:23.039
to be Like, so you talk
how many how many sessions you want to

914
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:27.679
book? Yeah, I'll just open
up like a month just for you.

915
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.320
All right, let's get into the
positive side. We've covered a lot of

916
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.880
crew members talked about favorite moments,
and this one we're talking about our important

917
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:39.599
moments from Picard, our favorite ones. Dave, why don't you start us

918
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:44.119
off What's Yours. There's just so
many I mean the whole series, but

919
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.199
Patrick Store Piccard has had so many
good moments, and I'm gonna have to,

920
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:49.199
Like I said earlier, I'm gonna
have to go with my favorite episode,

921
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:55.159
which is Lower Decks. Both of
the scenes that Picard has with Soito

922
01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:00.599
and just amazes me, and how
he handles the situation first being hard on

923
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.119
her, you know, even harder
than a father would be on a daughter,

924
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:05.440
being hard on her because of what
had happened to her at the Starfleet

925
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:11.800
Academy. But the second meeting when
he confronts her, well, she confronts

926
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:15.719
him and he really has that you
know, heart to heart with her,

927
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:23.519
and he tells her as she's leaving
why she's on the Enterprise. Yeah.

928
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.760
Yeah, just was like, Wow, that was an incredible moment from Picard,

929
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.760
and that's why I have to go
with that. That's a good call,

930
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:33.280
Wayne, what about you? Well, I was going to choose Picard's

931
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.840
final scene with Roe and from Preemptive
Strike, but right at the end I

932
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.039
had to change this because I found
something had been better. And that's the

933
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:45.320
final scene from All Good Things where
everybody sits down to play Poker and Card

934
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.920
walks in nervously asking if you can
join. You know, of course you're

935
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:54.400
always welcome, you know. It's
it's such a heartwarming moment. It shows

936
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:58.400
that these seven characters, they're not
just crew members on a ship, like

937
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:02.360
like Riker says to Picard in season
three of Star Trek, a card where

938
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.159
your family, and they really are
a family. They're not just characters,

939
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.840
but not just his characters too,
but as the actors themselves, they're a

940
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.840
family. You can really see the
chemistry and how much they love one another.

941
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:16.479
Yep, yep, that's a good
call, Scott. What about you.

942
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:23.159
Mine's from attached and it's a little
thing. But Pigard and Crusher are

943
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.720
sharing a laugh when they're walking through
the hallway with with Riker behind them.

944
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:32.119
M hmm. It seems like such
a genuine and pure moment from him.

945
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:38.479
I don't know that we've you know, aside from what was it Timescape when

946
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:42.479
he kind of went, you know, a little off the deep end and

947
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.920
was drawing smiley faces in the in
the warp cloud. But I mean,

948
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.000
it seems so genuine and pure,
and it seems like a glimmer of a

949
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:56.560
possible relationship and something like that relationship
would really make him happy, I think,

950
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.319
you know, and a sense of
relief, Like you know, we've

951
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.039
been so careful to to hide these
things and now we're just gonna let them

952
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:06.039
out. Especially what considering what happens
at the end of that episode, We're

953
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:11.239
just fascinating. It's just a moment
that it makes me want to see more

954
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.520
moments like that for him. So
let me just see if that actually happens.

955
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:18.800
All right, Well, we're at
the end of it. We're ready

956
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:25.000
to jump into Star Trek Discovery next
week, get into some fresh territory.

957
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:30.520
I want to thank you both for
going through this. I found it so

958
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.760
fun to go. It has been. It's been an incredible journey. Yeah,

959
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:36.560
it has. I can't wait to
do this without this series, especially

960
01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:41.920
because I'm not as familiar with Voyager
and Enterprise, so I'll be hearing from

961
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:44.880
the experts on the top one.
So it's gonna it's gonna be fun.

962
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.119
Reliving all this with you guys has
just been fantastic. It brings back so

963
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.520
many memories when I first watched them
on TV when I was young. Seeing

964
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.279
them again with you guys and talking
about it has just been fantastic. Yeah,

965
01:09:54.920 --> 01:10:00.800
and knowing that we have made a
new fan with Jeff Ye that's the

966
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.680
best one of us. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely all right, and I

967
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:08.760
also want to thank our listeners for
joining us again as always, join us

968
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.279
next week, like I said,
where we'll talk about some fresh track with

969
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.279
the newest episodes at Start Trek Discovery
and its final season. Each week we'll

970
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:19.359
recap the last episode as we get
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971
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:23.920
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972
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.239
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973
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974
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978
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