Richard Donner - Ladyhawke

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My question to you, Amber,
let's say it's late eighties, mid to

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late eighties, you're a studio exec
and you've got rud Gerauer. Are you

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going to cast him in your new
movie as the hero or the villain?

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Here? Absolutely shooting from the hip, you didn't think about it. Yeah,

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he has. He's done some incredible
work playing heroes. He's done some

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very incredible works as the villain.
This is it's not often you see an

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actor that can that can do both
of these, So as well as he

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does, I think yes, But
you know, when it's someone who's work

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I like so much, I'd always
I think rather see him be the good

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guy, no matter how enjoyable they
may be as the villain, It's like,

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Okay, hey, nice, that's
that's fine. You know, I

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can I can cite a couple episodes
we've done where you have opted for the

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bad boy. Yes, So you
know, surprising that you're gonna you're going

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Rutger Hower hero. Amber. Let's
let's talk about one of his his best

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roles as a hero, probably his
best role as a hero. Uh.

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And if we're gonna do that,
we gotta talk about a film by Richard

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Donner. His nineteen eighty five underrated
fantasy classic Lady Hawk. Hello everybody,

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I'm Jeff Johnson. I'm Amber Lewis, and this is a film by Podcast

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Amber. Before we begin, I
gotta I gotta take care of I gotta

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take care of something here. Uh. Several listeners were quick to point out

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that during our recent Joe Johnston episode
discussing the Rocketeer, I mistakenly reported that

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Toby McGuire starred in the film October
Sky, when it clearly was Jake Jillen

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Hall. Jake Jillen Hall. Yeah, shame shamey my name. While I

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contest that in nineteen ninety nine of
these two guys were practically the same person,

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I do wish to extend my belief
that both men are exceptional actors.

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Uh. So there there's that for
for everyone that pointed out that that flub.

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Representatives for mister McGuire and mister Jillen
Hall could not be reached for comments.

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So I'm gonna consider that again.
Yeah, thank you, Amber,

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Amber. We're gonna talk Lady Hawk. Tell tell our listeners what this one's

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about. It's very romance. This
is the story of a young thief who

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becomes entangled with a Night and the
Hawk that accompanies him on his adventures.

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Oh you're you're there? Are You're
being purposely vague to talk about it?

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Okay, Okay, Hey, we
can't be vague about Richard Donner. Listen,

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we have This is our fourth time
discussing the incredible work of Richard Donner

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scrooged in season one, and then
last season we covered Superman on our Film

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at forty five limited series and the
Omen on our Limited nineteen seventy six series.

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So I'm excited that you and I
were talking about Lady Hawk because you

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know, Scott, David, Wayne, Brad, everyone got it, has

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had a chance to tell Richard Donner. So you know, we gotta get

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the voice of reason on a Dinner
episode. You know, you and I

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were talking about Lady Hawk, and
I was like, we gotta talk,

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we gotta cover Lady Hawk. Yes, it's so good, it is,

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and it it saddens me. And
I kind of pointed this out to Scott

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when we when we talked about the
Rocketeer on that controversial Maguire Gillenhall episode.

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It kind of saddens me that Lady
Hawk kind of, you know, qualifies

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as an underrated film for Richard Donner, but it does. I mean,

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you know, a lot of people
aren't familiar with this one. Well,

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and even I've seen it so many
times, and I watched it twice today

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and it had been you know,
like maybe a year since I watched it

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the last time, and just sitting
there watching it, going, damn,

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this is a good movie. Mm
hm. You know, it just kind

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of catches me off guard every time
I watch it. I'm like, so

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good, well, you're your your
synopsis was mysterious. I'm not. I'm

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not the I'm not gonna go spoiler
free on this one because you can't.

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It's one hundred years old. Like
we gotta we gotta talk. Let's let's

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let's just let's jump right into this
cast uh Rudger Hower as Navarre, the

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former captain of the Guard of Aquila. I'm telling you right now, just

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his his entrance in this film on
that that giant black horse Aliath, that

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sword. I mean this, when
it comes to movie swords, the sword

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that that Navar is carrying, I'm
gonna put it up there with like Conan's

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Atlantean, you know, he Man's
power sword, Liono's sword, of omens.

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This is this this sword is just
it's spectacular, yes, and just

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ginormous. And I one thing I
love is in the fight scenes, like

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nobody looks like this is easy.
These are heavy weapons that they're wielding.

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Well in credit to nineteen eighty five. Everything they're they're they're thrown at each

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other and hoisting around. It's probably
the real deal, you know, just

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dulled. And yes, I mean
that that uh that double barrel crossbow that

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he's got. That through me.
I was like, how is he shooting

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twice? It's really impressive, Yeah, it is. It's very impressive.

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Well, you know, if you
got if it's like the one and done.

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Yeah, it's like, how fast
is he that load that thing?

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No, yeah, he's got He's
got He's got the double Navarre is just

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he's one of the the greatest characters
in a medieval fantasy movie I think I've

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ever seen. I love his look, I love his whole story. Yeah,

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his armor is great. He's noble, but he also wants revenge.

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So there's a dark side, Oh, very dark side. It's it's amazing

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to me. I asked you,
you know, we were talking earlier.

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I said, you know, choose. Choose for Rudger Hower, choose hero

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or a villain. Interestingly enough,
he was cast as the villain, you

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know, the captain the guard that
who is it? Hutchinson plays Kevin Hutchinson.

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I think his name is Yes,
he tells Richard Donner, I don't

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I don't want this role. I
want to play he'd a bad guy,

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yeah, And Donner's like, hey, I'm sorry, but I've already cast

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that role. And but this starts
off. Kurt Russell is cast and in

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rehearsals in the role of Navar.
That would have been a very different movie.

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I think I feel like it would
too. I mean, I don't

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know, though, this is like
the Thing era Kurt Russell. Yeah,

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so very well, you know,
even though I always think of him as

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like Big Trouble in Little China,
Like he was very gritty and very serious

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and if you know, yeah,
even the things he's you know, McCready's

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kind of brash, you know,
he's he speaks his mind. I think

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I think if you had Kurt Russell
doing a snake Plisken situation as Navar,

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that definitely would have worked. Yeah, because Navar's not a man of many

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words. Yeah, but I'm glad
Kurt Russell made the choice he does because

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I'm so happy with rud Grauer.
Oh my gosh, he's so perfect for

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this. It was just meant to
be. Yeah, you know who you

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know who Donner initially was was hoping
to grab for this girl, Sir Sean

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Connery. Ooh, I'd be really
romantic. It would have been now.

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And you gotta remember this was well
at the you know, in nineteen eighty

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five, he is, but when
when Donna was trying to while yeah,

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yeah, Donner tries to get this
made twice before before we get the version

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that we get in nineteen eighty five. You know, I know one time

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he he came close where he was
setting up shop in England to do it.

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Uh. And then there was a
second time, I think in Czechoslovakia

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where he was you know, uh, specific castles I think he was looking

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at. But yeah, originally the
idea was uh was was Connery and uh

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and that makes sense when we I
know we're gonna talk about Matthew Broderick here

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in a minute. But uh,
you know, I think that you have

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to have great chemistry between Rutger Hower's
Navarre and and Izibo. But you also

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have to have great chemistry between him
and the mouse, you know, Felipe

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Guston. So yes, Howard is
just sensation in this film. Absolutely love

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what he's doing. Michelle Pfeiffer as
Izibo. Now let's just talk about the

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run that she's on here Grease two
in nineteen eighty two. I know how

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you feel about that film. Yeah, I was gonna say, we don't.

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We don't talk fash Aboutoris too.
I'm moving on. Im not gonna

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talk trash. I'll move on Scarface
in eighty three, much to our friend

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Def Dave's dismay, she takes the
year nineteen eighty four off. But she

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has a busy year in nineteen eighty
five. You know, she's doing Lady

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Hawk. She also does the John
Landis film Into the Night, where she

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co stars with Jeff Golblum. Did
you ever see that one? Forever ago?

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I probably saw it in nineteen eighty
five and that was it. Yeah.

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I can't remember whether I like it
or not, but I John Landi's

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film that's like an action comedy or
a crime comedy with and Jeff goland Like

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and Michelle. Yeah, we have
to take a look at that. You

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know, we haven't done a John
Landi's film. Yeah, we might have

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to. We might have to take
a look at that, Amber. We

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got some homework to do. She
also does an uncredited performance as a saxophone

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player in a BB King music video. I'd like to track that one.

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I'd like to track that one down. But here, here's what I just

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had to tell you. I had
we had to talk about real quick.

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She also in nineteen eighty five,
and I've seen this. I gotta find

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it so I can watch it again
because it's been a long time. But

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she does an ABC after school special. It was called One too Many Amber.

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I'm gonna give you the synopsis.
You from that, you probably know

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what it has to deal with,
But I'm gonna give you the synopsis,

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and then I'm gonna blow your mind
when I tell you about the cast.

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Four high school friends find their lives
changed forever when one of the friends drives

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drunk with devastating results. Oh,
it's like the last prom. Yeah,

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you're gonna You're not gonna believe the
four friends who play these roles. Are

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you ready for this? Okay?
Michelle Pfeiffer, obviously right, is joined

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by Val Kilmer, shut up,
this is awesome. Yeah, oh it

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gets better, it gets better.
Mayor Winningham, Oh I love her.

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Yeah, who doesn't. And then
the star of Jawls the Revenge Lance Guest,

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Oh my gosh, this is likely
grail of after school specials? Is

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this the greatest after school special ever
made? My heavens, I'm gonna track

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it down. I'm gonna I'll find
it. I'll find it to be out

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there right now, right now.
Speaking of being out there somewhere, Dayton

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Johnson, Uh, you know he
heard me say Lance Guest, and I

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attached it to I attached it to
Jaws Revenge instead of The Last Starfighter.

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And he is shaking his head and
disgusted. But because Spidey SAIDs tingled and

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then he was like, he was
like, He's like, yeah, Lance

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Guest. Yeah. I could have
corrected myself and said, you know,

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Lance Guest of Halloween two with Jamie
Lee Curtis, I love Lance Guest.

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I was gonna say, not a
bad movie in that. But yeah,

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Matthew Broderick, Now, the last
time you and I discussed him, you

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were not happy with his performance.
Well, not not necessarily that he did

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a bad performance you just didn't like
his character. You and I we covered,

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we covered, we covered election,
uh not too long ago. But

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here he's a he's Philippe Gaston the
mouse Well, and I like young Matthew

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Bradberk. This is prime Matthew Brodderks. Think about this. He does war

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games in eighty three, he's Fairis
Bueller in eighty six. This is the

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perfect time for Richard Donnerd to snack
him, right yep. And he's so

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is it me? Or were you
seeing a little bit of Ferris in his

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performance here? Yeh, he's kind
of talking to himself and cracking some jokes,

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you know, being a little sarcastic
very much. And the whole thing,

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the whole like first half hour of
the movie. Yeah right. I

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feel like if you trace the the
Bueller lineage, you know, you get

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one of those family tree things.
I think you trace them back to medieval

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if we can go, if we
can go all the way to medieval times.

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They're probably French, you know,
the guest On family tree is probably

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somewhere in there with the Buelers.
You know, this is this is the

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fairest Bueler ancestor here. I love
what he's doing uh, you know,

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he's fun. He's a he's a
great he's he's he's doing great as the

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sidekake role. But he's also doing
great like his scenes with Michelle Pfeiffer,

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where he's he's not playing the the
full you know, he's not clowning around.

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You must you a must feel a
little sad for him because, like

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you can tell, he's obviously everyone's
in love with Michelle Pfeiffer in this movie.

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She's Oh my gosh, and everyone
in the audience and anyone that ever

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heard of this movie isn't well.
I mean, the first time we see

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her, when you know she's got
that she's wearing that cloak and she she

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turns around her eyes, I don't
know how you how you don't fall in

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love with her. Yeah, she's
just ethereal, Like I don't know that's

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the word. Ethereal. What does
it feel like to wake up in the

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morning, and that's what she look
like. I just well, you know,

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and you know, we've seen Michelle
Pfeiffer in and plenty of stuff.

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You know, she's done a lot
of television before she breaks into films.

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You know, she's she's doing great
work in in in Scarfish. She's doing

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great work in One too Many,
But I I just the look at those

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eyes. I just they're mesmerizing in
this film. I don't know, I

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just fall in love with her all
over again. We're just all we're doing

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is talking about her. But Brodrick
Uh absolutely his time with her. I

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love. I love that. You
know, he clearly is like the weakling

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between him and Navarre, but he
I like that he he he acts strong,

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he finds his strength when he's trying
to protect her and well, and

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I love his empathy for the two
of them as well, because he's quite

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the jokester and doesn't really want to
be helping Navarre in the beginning, and

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the more he gets pulled into the
story where he starts telling them things that

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they want to hear from. Yeah
the other how do we how do we

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feel about that? Because he's these
little white lies he's doing. I he

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that. I love where he says
something like my happiest moments were when I

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lie Yeah, yeah, you're right
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from him, yeah, you know, because it's he just wants to make

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them feel better. He just wants
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That's a good point. So we
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earlier when he was when you know, a couple couple times he was trying

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to make this film his his choice
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think it works so well as a
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if the thing works so well?
Okay? But what if it doesn't work

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as well as an adult? But
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something to say, say, like
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I think I think I think that
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you know, obviously Connor's a little
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maybe may I think it'd be an
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like Lady Hawk in nineteen seventy four
with Sean Connery and they made an interesting

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movie together later on. And they
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have worked. What movie are we
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actually has Matthew Roderick. Holy shit, I forgot about Sean Connery and Dustin

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Hoffman. They play father and son
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so obviously he's not getting He's not
gonna get Dustin Hoffin. He calls up

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Sean Penn, who we've been talking
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with his movies. Sean Pinn says, no, Curtis Armstrong auditions the name.

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the Nerds, who's also moonlighting with
Bruce Willis. Oh yeah, okay.

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guestom. Yeah, he would have been

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like more slapstickish. I think maybe
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comedy to it. Yeah, think
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he was always playing John Cusack's sidekick, like Better Off Dead and One Crazy

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Summer. You know. He Yes, I think he would have been fantastic

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in this role. I'm not saying, you know, I'm not I'm not

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unhappy with Matthew Brodick because Matthew Brodock's
amazing in this. But if if Curtis

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would have won it, won the
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that. I just wish in movies
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if we're not doing accents, Like
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say like, huddle up, are
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everybody agrees and then we say one, two, three, go and we

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get like, yeah, he's on, he's off. Ruger Howard's just doing

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his you know, Dutch thing,
and Michelle Pfeifferd just sounds like elegant.

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She's not really doing anything either.
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are we doing this or not?
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thirteenth century England, you know,
because they had talked about the plague,

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they talked about the Crusades. Yeah, so yeah, but no one's doing

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doing an English accent. Yeah.
I don't know what Matthew Roderck's doing on,

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but he's doing Ferris Bueeler like he
he gets he gets the bronx in

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there for show. Let's talk about
the reunion that he enjoys. In this

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film, John Wood plays the evil
Bishop of Aquila. It's funny because I

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saw this movie before I saw War
Games and cannot reconcile myself to Stephen Falcon

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being a good guy. I'm so
happy you say that, because I too,

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watched Lady Hawk before I saw War
Games really and as soon as he

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walked up, you know, as
soon as he shows up with you know,

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at the gate or whatever, Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm

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like Matthew Roderick alishety, do not
trust this guy. He will put a

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curse on you. Yeah. This
this is a very interesting character because it's

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a bishop practicing witchcraft more or less
with this curse. Yeah, and he's

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a bishops with this woman. Yeah, you can't be you can't be lustan

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after Michelle Pfeiffer, No way.
Yeah, he's just all kinds of bad.

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He is like you know, ive
Spanish inquisition, like he's he's a

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He's a bad one for sure.
Uh. I love what the when Imperious

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is telling the story of the curse? Mm hmm, I mean, how

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how far driven must you be?
How evil are you when you're like,

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hey, if I can't have Michelle
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like tale is old as time,
Like men they wont her if they can't

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have her, no one can have
her, Like it's every abusive relationship you've

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ever heard of Listen, there's plenty
of girls I wish I would have ended

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up with, but I've never cursed
them to live a life. As you

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know, I'm happy. No,
but okay, let's so let's talk about

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this though. So by day she's
she's cursed to be a hawk. Right,

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it's a fantasy film. Uh,
so she's by day she's a hawk

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and by night he's a wolf.
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just that fleeting seconds when the sun
sets and you know, I'm sorry,

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when the when the sun when the
sun rises, and the movie goes in

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the movie both it's like, yeah, it's yeah, but they it's like

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they get like just a brief second
where they can it's heartbreaking, yeah,

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you know, and you can't tell
they've decided, Like that's just too upsetting

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because they go their separate ways.
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don't transform together. Yeah, but
it's just, uh, this is such

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a such an incredible heartbreaking and romantic
fairy tale. When you think about,

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you know, doom these two lovers, you know, destined to be together

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forever, doomed to be a part
forever if you did nothing wrong like they

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like you know, like Camelot or something

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where they're yeah, you know,
this is somebody's having an affair or something.

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This is just people that fell in
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is this is a it's a Jack
and Diane situation. Just two American kids

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growing up in the heartland. They're
not trying to harm anybody. You know,

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this is Tommy and Gina. You
know, if you go bon Jovi,

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Yeah, I bring up I bring
up the music because John Wood was

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not the first choice to play the
Bishop, and I gotta tell you,

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Donner's initial choice would have I probably
he probably would have been awesome. Mick

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Jagger think about how creepy he looks. Oh yeah, Mick Jagger and all

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that Catholic Bishop Garden. Yeah,
yeah, I think that would have been

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awesome. It would be fabulous.
Yeah, great villain. This is this

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is one of those villains where,
you know, all credit to John Wood.

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The first time you see him on
screen, you're like, Nope,

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don't like him, want him to
get his come up and yep, and

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everything he does is gross, Like
could you working for kisses ring? Yeah?

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Could you imagine working for the ear
boss and helps with that spiky thing

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and yeah, thank you, And
then he had that dancer and in his

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garden. Let's talk about that creepy
moment where there's a woman wearing a gown

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but it looks like like feather like
plumage. Yes, and he's he's feed

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he's hand feeding her. She's dancing
kind of weirdly, but then he's feeding

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her by hand. How would you
have to get that call like, hey,

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what are you doing? I'm free? Why the bishop needs a dancer?

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Are you hungry? Well? And
you're a woman and it's the thirteenth

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century, so you can't say no. You're not gonna say no, Amber.

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Uh, something tells me you would
have said no. You'd be down

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in that dungeon. I mean maybe
in the dungeon. Yeah, you'd be

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in the dungeons of Aquaala for for
for the crime of speaking your mind?

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Yeah, what did you? What
did you think of a How creepy is

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Alfred Molina in this He's playing a
cizar the wolf trapper. Oh my gosh,

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this is like he can't think of
Peru and getting impaled in Indiana Jones

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and then yeah, sleeezes it up. Yeah, this is a rapper guy

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and there is nothing, i'm sorry, grosser than an animal trap. Oh,

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like I can be with if you're
hunting an animal, yeah, you

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know with it's quick of some kind, but like yeah, but like the

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trap thing completely grosses me up.
I'm with you, I'm with you.

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I love the fact that you've got
a revered actor like Alfred Molina. We

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know him for all the brilliant performances
he's done, but people like you and

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I I quickly always remember him as
like the Wolf Trapper with that crazy you

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know, you a brow and wild, the bad teeth and the bad teeth,

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and then and then you got you
got him, you know with with

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Indy, Yeah, people poisons fish
three days. You know, he's this

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man has done so many amazing performances, and you know, Doc embraces all

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of his roles, like he'll talk
all to day about his one day on

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Indiana Jones, Like, yeahn't care
the day the day he does a con

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and I I talked to him,
I'll put a I'll put an eight by

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ten of Cizarre the Wolf Trapper down
from dude, let's talk lady hawk.

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Yeah, and you're right, he'd
probably be like fascinating, Let's have a

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conversation. You know you probably will. Amber. Let's let's say, you

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know, we we I think that's
all the people we really want to cover

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as far as this this really awesome
cast. But let's take a quick break

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and we come back. We'll get
into the film's background. Welcome back.

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Amber Lewis and myself discussing Richard Donner's
Lady Hawk. Amber, we talked about,

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uh, you know Donner, this
is his third time, you know,

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third times a charm. He gets
it, he gets it up and

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running in eighty five. But you
know, uh, we honestly have studio

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head Alan Ladd Junior, who was
you know, one of the one of

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the iconic you know, he ran
He ran Fox for a while I think

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like ten years, maybe like the
late seventies. But it's it's it's it's

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Alan lad June that that works out
of co production between Warner Brothers and Fox,

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which is strange because I mean,
we see that kind of happening nowadays

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between studios, but in the eighties, it's kind of weird to see two

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big studios team up like this.
Because I even watching this recently, I

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was like, there's the Warner Brothers
logo. Wait, Fox. What huh,

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because I didn't remember it being a
Fox. I didn't remember have Fox

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having anything to do with it.
I love that Richard Donner said that he

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had to make this movie because when
he read the script, it was a

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movie he wanted to watch, Isn't
that That's fantastic, right? I love

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that man so much. My gosh, he was so amazing. He was

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one of the greatest this film.
That was fast talking about how nurturing he

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was and just how kind he was
to everyone. Yeah, I mean that

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that's Richard Donner though he's always he's
creating like a family environment on his set.

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Yes, and that, you know, that's what's fantastic that, that's

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what was fantastic about him. This
film, however, was not without controversy.

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And uh, I know, I
know, you know one of the

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things I'm talking about. But there's
two things I wanted to I wanted to

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I wanted to talk about the publicity. Did you hear about this? I

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don't know unless you're talking about like
the writer. Yeah, so yeah,

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yeah. Warner Brothers promoted this film
as being based on a real medieval legend,

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despite the fact that Edward Kamara was
jogging at a Hollywood YMCA when he

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came up with the idea. So
no, no legend, no no,

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yeah, I mean that's take away
from him as a creator. But like,

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I'm totally a sucker, Like they
tell me it's a true story to

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believe it, well that I would
be a total sucker for that publicity stuff.

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I'm like, it's a real legend. That is the problem for Edward

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Kamara because he does not get credited
full rights of authorship with the Writer's Skill

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of America. So that's a big
no. No. You can't go to

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Union boys. Yeah, wga.
They take action against Warner Brothers and who

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are quick to throw some some hush
money at Kamara, and he took it.

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So he took the payoff, which
means to this day Warner Brothers can

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still say a real medieval legend comes
to the screen and he can't do anything

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about it because he took He took
the money, So I was a pretty

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nice check. It probably was not
fifty bucks. It was probably decent money.

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It probably was. Now. The
other controversy surrounding this film something I

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had no clue about until you you
told me about this. You want you

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want to talk about the soundtrack.
Well, I had no clue either.

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The soundtrack to me just is what
it is, and you know, there's

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pros and cons, but I don't
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We had watched it. We watch
it every time there's an eclipse. We

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watched this movie, so we watch
it pretty frequently. Good a clips movie,

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You're right, this one in dragons
Layer are like the top two.

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Yeah, but uh so at some
point I had like googled Lady Hawk because

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I wanted to look something up,
and what popped up was people trash talking

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the soundtrack and just talking about how
horrible it was and anachronistic and just garbage.

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One of the worst soundtracks ever.
And I'm going, did we watch

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the same movie? Yeah, Like
I have had problems, but it's not

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like that. Yeah, but there
is a huge contingent of people that just

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think it's garbage. Blows my mind. Listen, it's not the greatest film

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score, but it's it's fun,
you know. Uh, it's not what

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they purported to be. Like the
main adventure theme that plays over the opening

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credits, to me, sounds like
the never ending story and it just doesn't

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like that's the piece I don't like
but the rest of it, it's not

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all like synthesizers in tech and no, there's a lot of it that's they

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got a love theme and they've got
a you know, fight scene theme,

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and you know that really fit with
the story. So people that completely trash

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it, I just don't get.
I don't understand it, you know.

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Andrew Powell composes the score. It's
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Alan Parsons of the Alan Parsons Project. The reason behind that, though,

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is because Donner had admitted that he
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lot during his location scouting. Well, what I love about that too is

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that Donner wanted to get like their
scouting look in Italy in the summer.

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00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.960
And Donner's like, I totally when
I have that vacation, I think I

403
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:10.119
need to go with you and make
sure you scout the correct locations. Yeah,

404
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.800
you know, how about spending a
summer just driving all over Italy listen

405
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:19.920
to this good music? You know, you know you're driving, you know,

406
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.760
Dick's like, hey, I got
some allon Parsons. Here we pop

407
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:29.199
this tape. It save in a
Ferrari like just sooning through the Countryside well

408
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.679
that that synth pop sound that they
have, though he felt complimented his visual

409
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.920
ideas. So you know, we
could talk a little bit. We could

410
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.000
talk more about this, but Amber, I think we need to queue up

411
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.760
our good buddy Wayne Whited, because
you know, when we're talking scores,

412
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.840
we always want to hear what Wayne
has to say. Wayne, take it

413
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.800
away. I discovered the film Lady
Hawk when I was in my twenties,

414
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.239
sometime in the late nineteen nineties,
during a random trip to the local video

415
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.800
store. I picked it up solely
on the basis that it was a Richard

416
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.760
don On her film, and I'll
admit my first impressions of the film weren't

417
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.679
the highest. What I did like
was the quirky and proto disco feel of

418
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.360
the score. It was a very
controversial choice for Donner to make, with

419
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.360
many of the production personnel and even
his wife, Lauren Schuller against the idea,

420
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.719
but like many directors have, Donner
had listened to the music of the

421
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.320
Alan Parsons project while he was working
on pre production of the film and found

422
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:34.760
himself unable to separate his ideas from
the music. Richard Donner hired composer Andrew

423
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.400
Powell to write the score for the
film. Powe was a classically trained composer

424
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.519
and had written music and supplied the
orchestrations for many of the Alan Parson Project's

425
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.679
songs. Alan Parson himself produced the
score for Powell, and what we got

426
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.679
was a mix of classic orchestra and
modern progressive rock. And I used the

427
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:59.800
term modern very loosely, plus a
whole heaping of Gregorian chants thrown in for

428
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.519
the hell of it. The idea
of a modern musical score was sound.

429
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.400
By nineteen eighty five, Hollywood had
started to move away from the traditional orchestral

430
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:14.320
scores and towards modern synth and rock
music to underscore their films. Even the

431
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.360
greats such as Jerry Goldsmith and James
Horner were forced to abandon their style to

432
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:22.360
adapt to this new trend, with
varying degrees of success, which leads me

433
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:29.960
to the question was Andrew Powell's effort
successful for Lady Well? Soundtrack fans are

434
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.639
divided. Some find this score to
be overblown and out of place for a

435
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.280
medieval fantasy film, with one critic
citing that it sounds like the music for

436
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:44.920
an exercise video played on top of
an eighties sitcom. Others find it memorable

437
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:50.039
and catchy, with Palell's orchestral cues
shining through. I personally follow in the

438
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:54.119
latter category. Powell's score reminds me
a lot of Bruce Broughton's work on the

439
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:59.840
film Ice Pirates and the works of
Derek's Wadworth on the TV series Space and

440
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.639
ninety nine, both scores that I
love and listen to frequently. I find

441
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.039
the main theme fun to listen to, especially when heard in bits throughout the

442
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:13.840
film and in full form in the
end credits. Hughes, like Philippe describes

443
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:20.480
I Isoboe and Phil Philippe discovers Isobe's
Secret are incredibly beautiful pieces of work,

444
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.239
with a lovely guitar playing over the
melody and over the orchestral screen, strings

445
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.639
and flutes. I can't entirely agree
that the score works for the film as

446
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.239
a whole, and it is quite
baffling that Donner decided to go in this

447
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.559
direction with a score that seems to
be the exact opposite you would expect on

448
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:43.119
a film of this type. After
Jerry Goldsmith's The Omen, John Williams Superman

449
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.920
The Movie, and Dave Grussen's the
Goonies. Maybe he just wanted to try

450
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.639
something different. Maybe it was a
mistake, maybe it was sheer genius,

451
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.199
but that's up to the listener to
make his or her own opinion. It's

452
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.920
unfortunate that Andrew Powell would go on
to write only one more score in his

453
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:06.599
career, the nineteen eighty eight film
Rocket Gibraltar. The soundtrack to Lady Hawk,

454
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.679
never received a release back in nineteen
eighty five, which is not unusual

455
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:15.320
at the time when albums were usually
reserved for the larger, big budget productions.

456
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.639
Its first official CD release was ten
years later in nineteen ninety five by

457
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.320
gmp Kreshchende Records, which is a
label mostly known for their Star Trek soundtracks.

458
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.719
The CD contained twenty three tracks with
a little over an hour of music.

459
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.800
Then, in twenty fifteen, Lala
Land Records released the two CD set,

460
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.719
containing of an hour of unrelease music
from the film and thirty five minutes

461
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.679
of Walschnitz and bonus tracks. The
new album was produced by Ford Baxxon and

462
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.079
Mark Banning, remastered by James Nelson, and supervised by Andrew Powell himself.

463
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.000
Unfortunately, as a present it is
now out of print. And unavailable except

464
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.280
for the secondary market. But if
you're a fan of the music like I

465
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.400
am, hopefully you'll be able to
get your hands on a copy of this

466
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:05.599
quirky and wonderfully eighties invoking musical score. Thank you Wayne for that. It's

467
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.800
always, it's always. He always
puts so much. He always puts so

468
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:16.320
much valuable information in like a two
to three minute stretch. Yes, look,

469
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:22.199
I love what Wayne does. I
actually asked Wayne to u to give

470
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.840
us a little, a little score
session on Lady Hawk because after the Rocketeer

471
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.639
episode I got, we got more
feedback though, like we love, we

472
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:37.360
love hearing you know Wayne talk about
the movie score. So yeah, provided

473
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.119
Wayne is available, we're gonna we're
gonna try and make that happen more often.

474
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:45.079
I think love it. Yeah,
so the film, you know,

475
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.280
we talked about this being an underrated
one. I don't understand this in nineteen

476
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.280
eighty five, I don't know what
people were thinking. But on a budget

477
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.960
of twenty million, it only it
only made eighteen point four. I just

478
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.559
in nineteen eighty five we were loving
these movies. I don't understand. I

479
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.199
don't know. The eighties are an
embarrassment of riches though. Yeah, so

480
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.400
you know, if you have to
make a choice at the box office,

481
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.480
you know, there were a lot
of choice. I'd like I'd have to

482
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.119
I'd have to go back and see
like what it what it opened against,

483
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.239
just to know, like, why
wasn't this a big hit? You know,

484
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.519
because I try as I might.
You know, I'm eighty five is

485
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:27.639
probably you know, it's not ninety
a six, so I'm not going to

486
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.239
have the the information ready to go. But uh, you know, it

487
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:36.199
makes me wonder because the film,
you know, critics liked it, and

488
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.480
it's nominated for two Academy Awards.
Uh didn't win either one of them.

489
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.599
You know, it lost Best Sound
to uh Out of Africa and Best Sound

490
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.599
Editing to Back to the Future.
But strange that a movie like this wouldn't

491
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:54.519
be nominated for Best Costume Designer.
Okay, eighty five you have that's Back

492
00:40:54.599 --> 00:41:00.239
to the Future summer? Yeah?
Is it going up in the gun and

493
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.440
the Goonies? I mean I don't
know about like were they the same week?

494
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.159
But that summer was Back to the
Future Gooonies? Mad Max? Oh

495
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:16.440
wow, that's that's the coon Okay, you that's There's a lot I can

496
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:22.639
understand it now, all right,
Rocky four, there you go. Okay,

497
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:28.639
So in a in a in a
year where Rocky four and Back to

498
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.320
the Future are your competition. Lady
Hawk never had a chance. Lady Hawk

499
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:37.719
an enemy mine both got destroyed.
No enemy I love any enemy mine.

500
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.320
I'm glad we covered that one when
we did our Peterson episode. If this

501
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.920
would have come out a year earlier, m never mind, that's eighty four.

502
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.719
If this would have come out in
nineteen eighty seven, it would have

503
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.280
been awesome. It would have been
fantastic. It would have made all the

504
00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.440
money. I think, Amber.
Let me ask you this. You know,

505
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.559
if you had a if you had
a favorite moment in this movie,

506
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:14.000
a favorite Philip guess Don moment,
you know Matthew Broderick. Okay, my

507
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.519
favorite part. I love when he's
talking to God. I think those parts

508
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:24.920
are really cute. Yes, but
my favorite part is when the bishop's guards

509
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:36.960
attack the monastery and uh, Michelle
Pfeiffer ends up almost falling off this tower

510
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:45.480
and she falls and then the sun
comes up and she transforms and is rescued

511
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:51.000
by transforming into a hawk and flying
away. And then the guard runs up

512
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.400
into the tower and he says,
where's the woman and he goes, she

513
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:59.400
flew away? Yeah? Yeah,
And I just love that mode and he's

514
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:04.119
like that it's true, she blew
away. I like the Imperious. I

515
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.000
love his like, you know,
the guards are you gotta get through his

516
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.719
castle which is basically just this giant
booby trap and all these guards are just

517
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.880
like getting wiped out. And he's
like, I'm a monk, not an

518
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:20.719
architect. Just how much better would
this movie have been? Though? If

519
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:27.000
it had been Brian Blessed as Imperious. I love him so much. He

520
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.960
would have been so great. That
would have been fun. Okay, yeah,

521
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.119
I could go with that one,
all right. You you were quick

522
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.599
to talk about your favorite moment with
with Philipe. How about a favorite moment

523
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.960
between the the ill Fated lovers Unvar
and Isibo? Anything come to mind?

524
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:51.599
Oh boy, I don't know.
I think uh. I love the ending.

525
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:57.000
I love oh that ending is like
when he picks her up and swings

526
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.400
her around? Do you know that? That was so lighthearted? Yeah?

527
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.679
That him him, He just did
it. So he pulled He pulled Richard

528
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.119
Donner aside and said, hey,
I've got this thought. What if I

529
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.880
what if I scoop her up in
my arms, and Richard's like, I

530
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.400
love it, don't tell her you're
gonna do it. So the reaction that

531
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.920
you see Michelle Pfeiffer on her face
and that that that that, that's all,

532
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:30.880
that's all authentic. She had no
idea. Yeah, I'm weak in

533
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.159
the knees. Yeah, it's fantastic. You want to talk a little bit,

534
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.320
Uh it is? You want to
talk a little bit about Richard Donner?

535
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:44.880
Oh yes, please, Okay,
So I'm gonna give you a couple

536
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.719
a couple of fun, fun facts
and then I got I got a fun

537
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:53.599
quote from from the Man. Oh
okay, let's talk about what he didn't

538
00:44:53.840 --> 00:45:01.960
do. So Richard Donner almost directed
Batman in nineteen eighty nine with Mel Gibson.

539
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:08.320
He had always planned to produce and
direct The Lost Boys, but when

540
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:15.199
they hit some delays, he decided
to direct Lethal Weapon instead, and he

541
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.280
caught up his buddy Joel Schumacher and
hired him, and you know, he

542
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.000
stayed on as executive producer. So
he's like, yeah, I don't have

543
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.639
time, but I'll call Joel,
and then this one blows my mind.

544
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:32.119
He also turned down an offer from
Michael Crichton to direct Jurassic Park. Oh

545
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:38.079
wow. Think think about this for
a second. Batman, The Lost Boys,

546
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:45.480
and Jurassic Park three of the biggest
blockbusters of all time, and they

547
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.719
were almost directed by Richard Donner.
I honestly, I don't know if it

548
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.480
would have if we would have got
better movies or not because of what they

549
00:45:53.480 --> 00:46:00.199
are. I couldn't imagine Tim Burton
or Steven Spielberg not directing those two movies,

550
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:06.159
but imagine a world where Richard Donner
directs them. I don't think the

551
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.480
Richard Donner movie would be like,
Oh, that wouldn't be as good.

552
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:14.119
I think they would be equal.
Yeah, I don't know that they would.

553
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:15.519
Yeah, I don't think one would
be better than the other. It

554
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.360
would just be different mm hmm,
which shows you how good he was.

555
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.880
Yeah. Absolutely, uh wow.
I don't know how Wayne will feel about

556
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.480
this one. But he never hired
a composer twice unless the film was a

557
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.920
sequel. So if he did it, if he was doing what if he

558
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.639
was doing a SQL, he's bringing
he was bringing the composer back. But

559
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.519
other that, Nope, new composer
every time it is. I wonder,

560
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.079
I wonder I wonder why, you
know, because I I think you know,

561
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.920
we've talked before about on this on
this show, about how certain directors

562
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:52.880
have a have a specific look.
You watch a movie and you go,

563
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.280
this is a John Carpenter movie,
I can tell, or this is a

564
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.239
Steven Spielberg movie I can tell.
I don't know that necessarily Donner has a

565
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.320
unique look to his films. Maybe
I'm wrong, you know, but maybe

566
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.559
he was worried about using the same
composers and having a say, I guess,

567
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.039
a familiar sound. Maybe. Yeah, I mean anything that you know,

568
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.360
can pinpoint you. If you don't
want to be pinned down. Yeah,

569
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.480
you know you're going to try to
avoid that. The man was always

570
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:28.639
known for his sense of humor,
you know, And I love this quote

571
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.559
from him. He once said,
quote, I have a bust of Abraham

572
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:37.320
Lincoln in my office, and it's
not because of the greatness he did for

573
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.360
our country, but it's because that
whenever I look at it, I have

574
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:50.280
to remember an actor killed him.
The guy. The guy he was,

575
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.039
he man, he was one of
a kind. He was absolutely one of

576
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:57.400
a kind. So listen, we
like I said, we we This is

577
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.320
our fourth time talking about Richard Donner. You know, we we've covered his

578
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.639
filmography quite a bit, so we're
not gonna we're not gonna rehash that.

579
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.440
But but Amber, I would have
to ask you if you had to make

580
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:15.800
one choice, like if you had
a favorite Superman Superman not even getting the

581
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.599
question out favorite favorite with your daughna
movie of all time Superman, Well,

582
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:25.639
listen, it's it's my answer to
it's the great superhero movie of all time.

583
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.000
I agree, I absolutely agree with
you. I have to also believe

584
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.159
that you're gonna recommend people see Lady
Hawk. Correct, Oh my heavens,

585
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:42.079
yes, yeah right, it's so
much fun. It's so great and and

586
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:46.400
also like family friendly, which is
nice. Where'd you see this one the

587
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:54.079
first time? I meant like like
streaming streaming wise? Did you I bought

588
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.519
it on Prime? Yeah, because
I have to have a copy, Like

589
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.960
I said, we watch it once
or twice. Sit here, Yeah,

590
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:08.320
I've got the the bare bones like
the original Warner Brothers DVD. You remember

591
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:15.119
those, Like they're like the cardboard
snapcase. Oh yes, it's it's a

592
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.480
relic. I get it. But
like the Blu Ray, the Blu Ray

593
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.360
doesn't look like there's much to it, Like I'm gonna say, yeah,

594
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.719
I didn't see a lot of there's
not a lot of extra things out there

595
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.440
for this movie. Yeah. That
makes me sad because this movie is so

596
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.079
fantastic. I love this film.
But a nice good print. You know,

597
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.840
four K would be great too,
It would it would be great.

598
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.199
Warner Brothers. Come on, help
us out, listeners. What do you

599
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.840
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600
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601
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602
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