Jan. 13, 2025

Robert Eggers - The Northman

Robert Eggers - The Northman
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Season 6A Film By...

Our 6th season kicks off with current in-demand director Robert Eggers and his 2022 historical Viking epic, The Northman! Jeff and Amber offer a thrilling, in-depth conversation about the raw portrayal of Viking culture, and the powerful performances, particularly from Alexander Skarsgård and Anya Taylor-Joy. It's a revenge-driven story that weaves historical accuracy with mythic Norse mythology!

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Okay, So it's been out long enough, came out on

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Christmas Day? Amber, Are you ready to discuss this amazing

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film that is No Speratu because it's the best film

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I've seen in the past couple months.

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No, because I haven't ever seen it.

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You haven't seen it yet? What are you waiting for?

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I only go to the theater for Christopher Nolan and

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maybe one or two others.

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That's that's such a mistake. And we'll get to that.

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You know you said one or two others.

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Well, I still want to discuss this visionary director who's

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quickly becoming a favorite for me. So let's talk about

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a film by Robert Edgars, his twenty twenty two underrated

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historical Viking epic The Northman.

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I am I'm not a bad wife son.

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I'm getting out of London more raven and I.

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Word hello, I'm Jeff.

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Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis.

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And this is the sixth season of a film by

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podcast Amber.

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Who we are? You know we're back six seasons. We're

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starting up number six. I can't believe it.

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That's awesome.

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It is weeknight, lots of real quick, a couple a

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couple of awesome things.

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So yes, uh, don't look at the calendar. We have moved.

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We have in fact moved to Mondays. A film by

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will now be released on Mondays. Moving forward, our Star

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Trek themed phaser set The Stunt will continue to drop

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on Wednesdays, and we're now reserving Fridays for any occasional

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bonus episodes, to which I'll go ahead and say we

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have plenty of in store, and Amber, I know you

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know what I'm talking about.

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Yes, for real, We're just gonna get everybody through the

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week as best we can.

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Absolutely.

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Meanwhile, our Patreon page continues to go strong with several

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exclusive episodes each month. We've got a few more episodes

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left in our nineteen eighty six series to wrap up

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before we drop some new fun stuff and I'm really

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excited what's coming to our listeners there. If you haven't yet,

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had to www dot patreon dot com, slash a film

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by podcast and subscribe for as little as three dollars

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a month. There's even a free membership that gets you

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access to several episodes if you're not ready to jump

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in all the way. Meanwhile, I want to jump in

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all the way on the North Man.

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Oh my god, heck yeah, Amber.

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So here's here's what made me happy. Some you know,

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it's a fifty Sometimes I feel like it's a fifty

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to fifty shot with you. Like I say, hey, we're

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gonna talk about this movie. You say I've never seen it.

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I'll check it out. And then sometimes your message to

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me is cryptic.

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Sometimes it's outrage uh, and then sometimes I'm like, Okay,

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I know she's liking this one. I'm looking at I'm

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looking at your message you sent to me. I'm really

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excited to talk about The north Man. Exclamation point. It's

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Banana's crazy.

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Well, the first the first message you sent me, you

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were like, do you want to talk about this? And

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I was like, yeah, sure, whatever, and I put the

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phone down and I looked at Liabro. I'm like, now

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I gotta watch the fucking north Man and he just

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cracked up because he has wanted to see it for

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a long time. My brother is all about the Vikings,

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and it's been saying like, you gotta see this movie.

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It's so awesome, and I'm like, no, I don't do

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that Viking thing, Like I'm not doing it. And so

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it was ironic that I was going to have to

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watch this movie and then I was like, oh my god,

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this is the best movie I've ever seen.

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I'm so happy that you're into it because I, oh,

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I absolutely love it. We don't get it.

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Good like to talk about underrated classic.

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Yeah, we don't get a film like this without a

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director like Robert Eggers and Amber. I know we usually

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do this at the end of the show. Towards the

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end of the show, I'll tell you what. I'm so

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excited to talk about him. I want to flip it

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to the front. Let's let's do let's talk about it.

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Let's do a couple of facts, a little bit trivia

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about this director. And let me offer you a quote

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because I got I got a pretty cool quote from him.

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And let's start with this, uh no secret.

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If you've if you're familiar with his filmography, you know

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that there is a more than likely chance you're going

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to see Willem.

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Dafoe in a Robert Edgars movie. Yes, I kind of

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feel like Dafoe is de Niro? Is that fair to say?

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Yes, although I'm surprised when he showed up in when

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I was like.

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Wait, what, uh we we got? I can't wait to talk?

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Is it I'm him Heimna.

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To any Vikings in the audience. We're gonna do our best.

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I'll tell you what.

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Listen, uh listeners, you you you're familiar with Amber now,

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and you know anytime I have to try and pronounce anything, friends,

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I can, you'll quickly correct me. But uh, now that

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we're dealing with uh Norse mythology and uh and vikings,

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and hey, look well we'll do our best, right, I mean,

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we'll try. But uh more on more on Dafoe in

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a minute, because I was shocked when he popped up

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like the little grimlin that he is in this movie.

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I loved him, but yeah, so yeah, he's kind of

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his DeNiro and I dig that we were talking about

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No s Farratu. This has been a long time him

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directing that film, which by the way, is absolutely spectacular

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and should be seen on the biggest screen possible because

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the cinematography is gorgeous. It's been a long time coming

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for Eggers because Amber, I will tell you this, while

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attending high school he did in fact direct a production

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of nos Ferrautu and designed all the sets. Oh my gosh,

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Young Edgars has been working towards this a long.

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Long ti this is a dream project.

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Well, and let me give you a quote, because this

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one we could spend the whole episode kind of dissecting

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what he's getting at here, because it's very mysterious. But

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when asked why all of his films are set in

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the past, Edgars quoted seventeenth century poet John Dryden saying,

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quote for mankind is ever the same, and nothing is

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lost out of nature, though everything is altered. He then added,

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as much as I am like totally in love with

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the verissamilitude of the tangible world, it's getting into the

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mind to present it without judgment just because it is

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what it is, and it's fucking fascinating. The most interesting

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thing is like, how.

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It's still us. Do you want to grab a coffee

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with this guy and just talk because I feel like

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he's taking you down a rabbit hole for sure. Well.

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I listened to an interview with Anya Taylor Joy and

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she was talking about how as much as she likes

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doing research and stuff, she really just wanted to listen

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to him tell her the stories and she didn't want

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to like read it. She wanted him to just talk

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and tell her what she needed to know. And I

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mean if that's how he talks, My god, yeah, what

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a brilliant guy.

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Hearing him say something like that, you know, put him

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in a room with Andrew Blakeley.

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Oh my gosh. I would just turn him on like

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a radio and listen. I wouldn't attempt to to participate.

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Those two guys, they'll be teaching another level. Yeah, they

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are well Amber. I was, I was new. This is

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the first time watch for me. I was just I was.

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I was so excited after seeing those fratu I wanted

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to do a Robert Eggars film. I wanted to open

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up the season with Eggers, and I was familiar with

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some of his work. But then I saw The Northman.

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I was like, Okay, let's what is The Northman? Obviously

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it's a Viking movie, but can you give us can

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you give our listeners just a little bit more of

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a synopsis?

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Well, I will share. I'll share two different synopsis and

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you guys can pick the ones you like the best.

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The one I put on Facebook when I said that

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I was watching this, I just said, Viking Hamlet, let's go.

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That's actually perfect.

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Yeah, I'm more succinct. Description is a young Viking prince

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is on a quest to avenge his father's murder.

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Absolutely, let's take a quick break and when we get back,

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we got to start talking about this stellar cast. Welcome back,

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Amber Lewis and myself talking about Robert Eggers, the Northman,

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So Alexander Scarsguard is playing our.

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Lead character, the hero Omleth.

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So Amber, he meets with Eggers to discuss uh collaborating

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on a different project, and apparently Scarsguard will not stop

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talking about this idea he has for a Viking movie.

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Turns out he's always wanted to make a Viking film.

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You know, you look at his heritage, you look at

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his family's heritage. You know it's new, it's near and

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dear to his heart. He pitches his idea for this

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Viking movie to Edgars, who then becomes.

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Very receptive, falls head over heels for it.

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The movie that they're planning to do never never comes

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to fruition, so they jump into this.

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What do you think about scars Guard as Omleth.

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He is a beast. Yes, when he makes his introduction

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in the movie, because he you don't seem toil, like

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maybe half hour in, like my jaw hit the floor.

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And I've seen him in a lot of things, and

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he's always you know, in good shape, but he was terrified.

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He is a beast in this movie Amber.

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He worked out for six days a week for six

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solid months to put on this physicality. And you're right,

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he this man has never been out of shape, you know.

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When you look at I mean.

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He was very, he was muscular, he was lean, he

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was cut in true blood. Uh look at him in Tarzan.

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I mean he put on some significant size to play Tarzan.

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But there is like a terrifying aspect to him, and

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this like he reaches the level.

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Yeah. Well absolutely.

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Edgers did say this is like Hamlet and Conan the

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Barbarian mashups. I makes perfect sense for Alexander. Scars had

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to be like pushing a wheel.

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Okay, I'm glad you said that. Wheel.

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I'm glad you said that because first I'm watching it

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and I'm like, holy shit, this is this feels very

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very Coneane the barbarian esque. And you know I love

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cone the Barbarians. Well it's a it's a favorite of mine,

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and I'm okay with it. I'm like, okay, I could

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I could play in this Conean in the Barbarian world.

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You can?

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You can sample a little bit of of of that.

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That's cool. But then the more I'm watching it, I'm like, man,

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this is Hamlet and Amber is beginning.

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I was going crazy.

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I love I love that you're saying that they because

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I'm sitting there like I'm seeing Hamlet and Amber is

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gonna tell me I'm an idiot because this is not Hamlet,

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but it's Hamlet.

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So I'm glad Hamlet. And the funny thing is they

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said in their research that Hamlet actually the origin of

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the story is from a Viking myth, yes, which I

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kind of feel like though if you went to like

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feudal Japan, like they would say, no, that is from

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I don't know, this emperor and this dynasty, you know,

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or whatever. But I think every ancient civilization probably has

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their own version of that story.

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But they might. But I'm so happy to hear you like, yeah,

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of course this is Hamlet, because I'm.

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It's actually Hamlet with a little bit of Macbeth thrown in,

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which actually like elevates the story and makes it better.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, because Hamlet, like.

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You know it meann take five acts to make up

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your mind, Like, let's just go.

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Quickly.

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Yeah, I'm with like all action.

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I mentioned, I mentioned, you know, Scars Garden, True Blood.

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I thought this was kind of a funny. I don't

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I don't know if you can call it a coincidence

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since we know that he's actually pitching to Edgar's about

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this Viking movie.

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But did you watch True Blood?

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It was did not?

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I think you'd love it. By the way, but Scars

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Guard played he was like the main man, Oh, you're

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missing out.

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Then you got it. It's a bunch of vampires and

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sex and wild stuff. You gotta check it out.

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But he played a vampire named Eric Northman, who was

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a tenth century Viking.

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That was not his name?

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His name, look it up his name.

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I was like, wait a minute, because I was I

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was just kind of wondered, like why why is it

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the Northman? North Man? You know? I'm like, okay, I

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get it. But then I was like, wait, Eric Norman

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true Blood? What he is? But like you said, he

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is brutally just jacked in this.

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He is a beast. He looks savage. I've never seen

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someone look so savage in a role like this.

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So loving Scars Guard, but.

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Not nearly as much as I'm loving Anya Taylor Joy.

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Oh my goodness again, my son Liam one of his

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favorite actors. He will watch anything she's in and she

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is will too, absolutely ridiculous in this movie. She's so good.

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She's Olga, the Slavic sorceress.

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I love her confidence. I love the character's confidence. Can

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we can we talk about that for a minute. She

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is she's fierce, like she does not back down from

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you know, her masters.

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She doesn't back down from the men.

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She doesn't you know, I mean, her talent is like

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just I mean we you know, Vikings are gonna raid

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and pillage, and you know we're gonna we're gonna talk

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about one of those scenes. But I mean even during that,

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like all you got these women wailing in the background

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and kids crying, and she's just she's she pulls out

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a knife, she's ready to fight.

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I love it.

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Yeah. And far from being that's where I think the

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Macbeth comes in, because far from being like a weak

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of failure that's just kind of a pond to be

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moved around like, she is a fierce lay Macbeth, who

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is I'm less partner in crime.

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So the year before the year before this, she's in

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one of my favorite films, well, I should say one

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of my favorite Anya Taylor Joy films last Night and Soho,

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which you know, I stopped over on Docking Bay a

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couple of seasons ago to talk with Dayton.

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About love that film. But this is a busy year

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for her.

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She's got The Northman, she's got ten eleven episodes of

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Peaky Blinders. She's in Amsterdam, which I know a lot

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of people didn't see because it, you know, didn't look

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that great. But she's also in the Menu, which we

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talked about on our New Year's special, you know, when

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we did the Top ten of the twenty twenties, and

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that kind of was brought up once or twice. So

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I'm loving I'm loving her character though. I love the

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idea that she's like this strong woman, you know, from

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the village. But then wait, no, she's kind of like

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earth Mother. Wait, she's a little bit of a sorceress

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and ultimately she's what omlest.

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Needed, you know. Yep, absolutely fantastic. Now Nicole Kidman, on

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the other hand, which how.

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Study is part of the movie for me, Okay.

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Interesting, all right, well, can we agree that this woman

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just continues to become more attractive as she as she

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gets older.

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What I don't know, what I don't Maybe she's the sorceress.

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I don't know.

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She's playing Queen Gudwyn Almles's mother, which is kind of funny,

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you know, you know when in the in the when

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almost like ten years old when the movie begins, totally

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into it makes sense. But they could have I think

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they could have aged her up a little bit up

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against Scarsgark because she's only nine years older than.

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Him in real life.

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Yeah. I just I think she was miscast. I want

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to Okay, I wanted Angelina Julie.

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Oh god, No, I'm just saying she's she could have done.

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It, Hannah wanting them.

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Oh what an excellent choice.

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Uh.

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I can say that because I have now entered the

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world of Ted Lasso, so I know all about this

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amazing actress.

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Yeah.

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That's a great that's a great pick.

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Yeah.

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I can't.

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I can't argue that because there's only like she's only

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in a couple of scenes in the beginning where they

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would have to, you know, make her look more youthful,

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and then she she.

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Looks youthful enough. You know, she's a beautiful woman.

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Yeah, I don't think she's that much older. Than Sarsguard.

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But she's bigger, she's more imposing, she's stronger, she does

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look like a light dynamic. Like, yeah, like, I just

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think she been a better choice.

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You're really winning me over on this whole not Nicole

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Kimmen situation.

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And I love Nicole Kimmen, don't get me fantastic. I

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just felt like that she's not it for this one.

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All right. Well, I you know, I didn't not enjoy her,

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but it just for me, it was a little offputing

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the back half of the movie where adult Omelet is

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with her, you know, and it's his mom.

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It just seemed that's always the challenge with Hamlet though,

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because there's the whole dynamic between him and his mother

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and the whole thing. So you can't make the mom

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too old, No that's true, but you make her too

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young and then it's like, what are you doing?

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You know, yes, just I don't know, I just like

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I said, get you know, just just ad your little bit.

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Give her, give her a couple you know, crows feet

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around the eyes, give.

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Her especially like they're living rough. So yeah, it made

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her look a little worse.

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Yeah, she's looking pretty good for a eight ninety five

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A d you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, let's talk

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about uh, for all you vikings out there, please forgive

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me here, let's talk about Clays. Bang.

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That's okay, thank you.

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He's playing uh Fiolner the Brotherless who is Amles's uncle Amber.

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I looked at this guy's IMDb. He's done like four things.

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I've never seen any of them besides this.

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And where has this guy been? Because he should be

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in a lot more. I like this guy. What do

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you think?

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Yeah? He was amazing. He's just enough of a villain,

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just enough week like you can believe that he you know,

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has the gumption to kill his brother but then instantly

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loses his king. Yeah.

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Who am I thinking about Lord of the Rings and

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Christopher Christopher Lee Christopher Lee. Yeah, is he is close?

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Bang giving you young Christopher Lee vibes?

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I mean he is now that you said that. Yeah,

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the look is very much.

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Hey, hey, Hollywood, we've got we got a new Christopher Lee.

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He's out, he's there.

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Just put him in more movies. This guy was amazing.

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I love his performance. And here's what I really dig

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about him, or I should say the character of Filner.

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We obviously want him to pay for his crimes, right,

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he is the villain. We can't wait for Alexander Scarsgard

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to hunt him down and.

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Take his vengeance.

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But man, this villain does he not suffer a lot.

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But you know, in the back half of this movie,

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I mean at the end of the day, it's.

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Kind of like, all right, where are we square? I go,

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are we even yet?

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It's like, because Omloth is just taking vengeance like no

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other I kind of felt sorry for him.

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Well, I'm feel sorry for him, but it well, you

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know what I mean, like diabolical the way he wasn't

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just Omleth, wasn't just going for the quick vengeance. He

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was like on this reign of terror to like totally

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drive the man insane and then kill him.

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Yeah, I mean, Filner betrays his father. You know who

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we're going to get to in a second. Here Ethan

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Hall King Arnvendell.

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I think Arvindale King King Hawk, King Ethan Hawk. Well, yeah, yeah,

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real quick.

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Totally unrecognized by the way, so the movie was over

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that that was him?

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What arvind Wait Arvindale war Raven. That might be the

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most badass name of anyone in film history. Yeah, but

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I you're right, he's he's very it's he's like a chameleon. Uh,

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because he comes in, you know, he returned from the

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war to see his bride, Nicole Kidman the Queen. He's

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he's happy to see his son, but he's been mortally wounded.

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We see that, and he's like, he's like, hey, it's

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time for my son to become a man. Well, we'll

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get to that scene here in a little bit. But uh,

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I'm like, that sounds a hell of a lot like

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Ethan Hawk.

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But that's not.

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I had no idea.

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One moment and again this you know, we're dealing with

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a lot of natural light and firelight. There's one clear

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shot where I was like, underneath that that crown and

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that beard and that that.

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Wolf's main that that's Easan Hawk. This is awesome because I.

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You watch the trailer for this, you know, or you

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see the posters, all you see is Alexander Scar's garden

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and Anie Taylor Joy. So I was really surprised when

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I saw Ethan Hawk show up.

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Kind of a small role.

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He's only easy in the movie, what five minutes, ten

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minutes tops maybe, but an impactful ten minutes. I would say,

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we uh, we mentioned him Willem Dafoe as a Himer

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the fool.

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Oh my god, talking about being in the movie for

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like five minutes, but oh my god, those five minutes.

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You your your message, You're you're you're DM to me. Yes,

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you know Banana's crazy. Yes, Willem Dafoe is Banana's crazy

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in this that that smiegel grin that he has the

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whole time, just he's talking shit at you know, the

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king and the Queen.

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He's he teaches the truth to the queen, which was surprising.

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Which was surprised. Yeah, looking back at that when you

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watch this and again, you're like, oh, wait a minute.

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He was trying to like throw a little warning out there.

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Yeah, he's throwing some shade. But he's like, ah, we're

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just having some fun. Yeah, it's it's all good. No, no, yeah,

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but man, he's uh, I mean, he's the fool, but

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he's also he's kind of like the the mentor character.

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He's kind of like the you know.

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Your medicine man or something medicine.

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Man that you know, the guy that gives you the

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sage advice. I don't know.

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Uh, I love I loved seeing him here. For people

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that haven't seen this, I'm not gonna spoil it, but

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I loved when we got to see him again at

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the at the back half of the movie or the

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middle of the movie, because I was like, wait, is

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that am I seeing? Yep, I'm seeing what I'm seeing.

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That's that's that's the foot.

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I'm kids, if you're listening and you gotta study Hamlet

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this year. I'm not one to say don't read it

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and watch the movie. Definitely read it, but like, watch

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this movie because like it's so much more accessible and

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it's so much more fun.

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Amber Could you imagine I'm gonna blow your mind here

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for a second. Could you imagine a world where this

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was made maybe twenty years ago, and the Omeleth character

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was played by Kenneth Branna.

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Would you just lose it?

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I mean he got pretty much for the Frankenstein movie

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so he could get in shame. I lost my mind.

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Yeah, you would have.

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Uh, here's where I lost my mind. I'm gonna just

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I'm just gonna bring her up.

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The character.

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She's only you know, it's like just a couple of minutes.

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But middle of the movie, when you know, because this

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is this is all about Omeleth, like doing this cone

475
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in the Barbarian thing where he's a child, he grows

476
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:51.039
up to extract.

477
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.559
His revenge in the name of his father.

478
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.680
He goes to see a cirrus, which which is like

479
00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:59.839
a probably like in Viking, the Viking world, that's like

480
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.680
a prophet who communes with the gods. And you know,

481
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:09.920
but this, this this woman, this this prophet. She's just

482
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.440
breaking out into song, like some kind of Viking song.

483
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.440
And I was like, damn, that woman sounds a hell

484
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:17.279
of a lot like Buyork.

485
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.799
I wonder, you know, I wonder what Buorke thinks about

486
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:26.359
this well a lot a lot because it was Bork, Like, like,

487
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.200
wait a minute. I started doing some research. I was like, wait,

488
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.960
that the woman that sounded exactly like Buork was was Buyork.

489
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:33.680
How about that?

490
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.680
Well? And she was actually instrumental in getting this project

491
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.799
off the ground because she invited Robert Eggers to dinner

492
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.440
just to have like a fun dinner and kidding me

493
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.319
and I'm gonna but your this name, I apologize shown

494
00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.160
the writer. Yeah, he was also at this dinner and

495
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.119
she got them together, and that was kind of the

496
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:05.920
early embers of this idea.

497
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:11.400
Wow, I had no idea that she had that much

498
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.880
involvement in it. I just thought, ah, you know, I

499
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:16.119
mean she in.

500
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.480
The interview I heard like, was like, I'm not taking

501
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.240
any credit. I just invited him to dinner, you know,

502
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.160
But I think she was.

503
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.319
This is this is why anytime b Yorke invites you

504
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:28.920
to dinner, you just say yes.

505
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.200
You just got You don't know what's going to happen,

506
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.319
what an amazing thing could come of it.

507
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.880
Let's talk a little bit about the film's background. Uh,

508
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.680
And I'm just I'm gonna I'm gonna cut past all

509
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:45.279
the the four hundred pages of Norse mythology that's available

510
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:47.559
if you if it's out there, if you want to

511
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:48.000
check it out.

512
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:51.440
But yes, there is a great book by Stephen Frye

513
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.480
called Nurse Mythology, and Stephen fry breaks it down and

514
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.359
the audiobook is great. He reads it to you and

515
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.240
you will know more than you ever thought was possible

516
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:01.519
to know.

517
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:03.319
Yeah.

518
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.720
But as we're kind of talking about with the origin

519
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.319
of this film coming together, the story is in fact

520
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.359
based on Norse mythology, specifically the story of Amleth, which,

521
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.599
as you said, Amber is said to have inspired Shakespeare's Hamlet.

522
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.720
And I have to believe that because when you see

523
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.960
this movie, the Amlett's story is Hamlet, you know well.

524
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.480
And it makes sense in a you know, oral tradition

525
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.480
kind of way. It's that story has passed along and

526
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.200
he's like, oh, this sounds great. I'm gonna adapt that

527
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.160
for my theater company.

528
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:37.039
Yeah.

529
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:38.799
One of the one of the things that makes this

530
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:44.400
film stand out is the authenticity. Eggers worked with historians

531
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.880
to ensure that the sets, the costumes, the props, everything

532
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.519
was to meticulous detail.

533
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:55.160
I love that he does this.

534
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:56.720
Yeah.

535
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.279
Professor Neil Price, who is an archaeologist at the Upsala

536
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:06.440
University in Sweden, stated quote, The Northman might be the

537
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:11.000
most accurate Viking movie ever made. I believe that because

538
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.359
even when we get that that vision of the Valkyrie.

539
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.680
My first thought when when we see her, I'm like,

540
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.640
what really you cast them with braces?

541
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:21.519
What are you doing?

542
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.319
And then too like totally freaked me out.

543
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.279
Yeah, So apparently this is how insanely detailed he got

544
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.640
with his with his design set design.

545
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:33.799
Uh, this is a thing.

546
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.759
Back in the Viking time, they would carve lines into

547
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.000
their teeth and then die like different colors as like

548
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:47.000
a sign of I don't know, just being being awesome.

549
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.839
But I look it looked cool. But yeah, this Viking

550
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.920
who that's.

551
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.880
Like a detail that nobody cares like. I never knew that.

552
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.680
I kind of watched the whole entire movie and I

553
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.480
had that. But that's the attention to detail.

554
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.079
That's the attention to that.

555
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.160
Yeah, every little thing that you see, you know it's

556
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.279
there because Egers was was pouring over it and working

557
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.519
with all these these experts in these historians to say, hey,

558
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.799
it needs to be exactly how we saw it. There's

559
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.400
one thing that is maybe not as accurate and it

560
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.920
is open to interpretation, and I want to save that

561
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:29.319
for when we talk about the noteworthy scenes. But yeah,

562
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.880
one other thing I'll tell you. The studio insisted on

563
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.599
inserting title cards to help the audience better understand how

564
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.599
time was elapsing and where Omleth was in his quest.

565
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.960
Uh. This is based off of audience reaction test, you know,

566
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.720
early test scores. What do you think do we need

567
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:48.440
the title cards?

568
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:49.759
I mean I thought they were kind of cool just

569
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.160
because we saw the ruins and then it translated into what,

570
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:54.519
you know, where we were, what.

571
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.200
Was going on? What do you think? What's your thought on.

572
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:01.079
That Yeah, I read that, and and I also was

573
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.160
kind of pleasantly surprised that Eggers wasn't one hundred percent

574
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.799
annoyed that he had to make changes, Yeah, to make

575
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.880
the studio happy. He's very much resolved, like, these are

576
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.319
the choices I made, and I'm okay with it. But

577
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.759
I having seen some of his other movies, and like,

578
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.200
I was confused, but then it was part of the

579
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.960
experience to be confused, So I was okay with it.

580
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.920
With this, I think so much depends on time and

581
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.599
place that I was really glad that it was there.

582
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.119
Well, you got to remember he is this is the

583
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:37.759
first time he's on a big budget film.

584
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.759
Yeah, and he doesn't have final cut.

585
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:48.000
So for him to take studio mandated notes and say, hey,

586
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:49.720
you have to do this, you have to cut this,

587
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.200
you have to add this, that was very I mean

588
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:54.799
I read some stuff where he was kind of talking

589
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:55.720
about this in an interview.

590
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:57.279
Very difficult for him.

591
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.519
Yes, you know, all his other stuff, he would you know,

592
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:02.680
some of the producers would be like, hey, I have

593
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.599
a suggestion, and he may take it, he may not.

594
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.119
Take it, but this is a situation where the studio

595
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.400
is telling him you have to do this.

596
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.079
So the thing that you know, to your point that

597
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.559
I really appreciate is that the changes that he did

598
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.440
make didn't overly hurt what he thought his vision would be.

599
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.319
And he even said, this is the movie that the

600
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.559
audiences should see, and that's why they'll never be a

601
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.279
director's cut.

602
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.960
Yes, I read that, and I was like, okay, then,

603
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.359
so he's cool with that. Yeah, you know, because we've

604
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.559
done several episodes where that was not the case.

605
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:36.640
That was not the case.

606
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:37.559
Yeah.

607
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.200
Nine times out of ten, the studio executives are idiots.

608
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.799
This is one of those rare occasions where they're like, hey,

609
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.880
throw it in, and I honestly I thought, okay, I

610
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:46.559
dig this.

611
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.559
I like I like seeing where we're heading. You know, yes,

612
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:51.839
I liked it.

613
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.000
I've got five scenes I want to talk about, you know,

614
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.640
that I feel are noteworthy, and then one of them,

615
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.000
obviously is gonna be the pivotal moment.

616
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.039
But Amber, you jump in, you tell me.

617
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.440
If we hit your pivotal moment, you tell me, And

618
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.039
if I don't mention it, then I'm gonna ask you

619
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.160
if if you don't speak up, I'm just like, all right, Amber,

620
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.160
what's the pivotal pivotal moment here. Okay, not the pivotal

621
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.599
moment and not as accurate.

622
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.079
Historically. Let's talk about the dog Ceremony, the initiation for

623
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:22.519
Omeleth to become a man.

624
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:27.039
Much.

625
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.599
Okay, I'm glad you said that, because when I the

626
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.799
first time I watched it is like, holy shit, Amber

627
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:33.200
is going to be so pissed at me because I'm

628
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.599
making her watch this movie. Because we we've got Willem

629
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.720
Dafoe presiding over this ritual of young Omeleth becoming a man.

630
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.079
There is plenty of howling on all fours. There's burping,

631
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:49.119
there's farting. It's you know, I did not go through

632
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.359
this ritual when I became a man, so I you know,

633
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.559
I was a little like, what am I missing out?

634
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.160
I don't know what. What'd you think of the dog

635
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:56.160
the dog Ceremony?

636
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.880
Well, I was glad that I watched it a second

637
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.880
time because the first time I missed the part where

638
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.720
he said that they were drinking drugged mead, and I

639
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.000
thought they were drinking blood out of those bulls, and

640
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.960
I was totally freaked out. But so I was very

641
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.079
happy that it was just beer with a little something

642
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:22.000
extra put in but I found myself thinking about going

643
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.200
to see Thor the first time, and how much I

644
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.480
loved that Kenneth brown At just completely embraced and like

645
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.920
dug into this idea of you know, I Drissel the

646
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.920
Tree of Life and the Rainbow Bridge and all this

647
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.759
cosmic stuff that is just bonkers crazy. And that is

648
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.319
exactly what this ceremony is. It's like you are going

649
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:50.200
headfirst into this faith and you know this ritual, and

650
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.319
you're just carried along for the ride. And I thought

651
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:53.960
it was amazing.

652
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.799
Yeah, what looks like a fever dream is their religion.

653
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.519
It's deeply religious. It's a it's a deeply impactful moment

654
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.920
for this young boy. But it is wild to watch,

655
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:06.079
and it's funny.

656
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.920
It's I mean, listen, you know, it's a it's an intimidating,

657
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.800
it's a it's an intense moment. But then you know

658
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.440
there's there's burpen and farting. You can't you gotta laugh,

659
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.119
You can't you can't not laugh. Right, I'll tell you

660
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.440
what you don't laugh at. Uh, let's talk about the

661
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.199
Slavic town attack. This is where we get our first

662
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.400
look at the adult Omeleth played by Alexander Scarsguard. Here's

663
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.599
what I find fascinating. Edgar's, much to the chagrin of

664
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.800
the studio, did not do multiple camera setups.

665
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.079
He likes a lot of handheld a lot of close ups.

666
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.760
So while most you know, projects are gonna shoot like

667
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.679
fifteen twenty five scenes a day, he's shooting four or

668
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.559
five a day, and he's doing them twenty five times

669
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.880
to get exactly what he wants. So when you think

670
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.079
about this Slavic town attack, where I mean it's one

671
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.800
continuous shot and it's awesome, think about all the carnage

672
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.840
that's going on all you know, because again Vikings they're

673
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.199
gonna they're gonna pillage and plunder and this town is

674
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.599
getting destroyed. And he's right there where We're just walking

675
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.239
along with Omleth the whole time, and it's a it's

676
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:16.159
an incredible moment.

677
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.559
What I love is it's not gratuitous. There's a ton

678
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.719
of violence, but you it doesn't belabor it, like you

679
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.280
know what's happening. Yeah, but it also there have been

680
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.760
sequences like this in other movies where everything happens so

681
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.159
fast that you miss all the cool stuff. And here,

682
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.199
because Omeleth is such a beast. He's just walking through

683
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.440
and kind of picking and choosing who he's gonna like

684
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.280
waylay with this axe or hatchet thing that he's caring

685
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.800
and you get to see like moments where he dodges

686
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:52.960
an arrow.

687
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.639
That someone he grabs.

688
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.800
A spear out of the air and then throws it

689
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.360
back at the right back the guy. Other movies like

690
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.440
it's all about this fast paced business, and you would

691
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:05.880
miss that.

692
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:12.000
Here is why this scene is so impressive. Any other

693
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.239
movie we've seen this scene. We've seen the attack scene

694
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.480
a hundred times, right, and what you're gonna see, You're

695
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:22.719
gonna see a lot of super fast cuts. We're gonna

696
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.719
have a very loud film score drowning out the carnage.

697
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.920
To your point, You're gonna see a lot of gratuitous violence.

698
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.119
You're gonna see a lot of gratuitous getu You're gonna

699
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.599
see a lot of gratuitous nudity. You know, you're always

700
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.239
gonna see the women being raped right there in the background.

701
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:41.440
You're gonna see people getting just slaughtered. This movie doesn't

702
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.199
do any of that. We just take our time walking

703
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.880
through the village with Omleth, who is basically observing and

704
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.880
kind of serving the you know, the the damage because

705
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.239
he's not really one of these guys, right, you know,

706
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.800
he's kind of he kind of fell in love, you know,

707
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:57.960
these these guys found him, and.

708
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.400
He's not really there, Like he's kind of gone so

709
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.880
deep within himself. Yeah that at this point, he's not

710
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.800
even on his quest anymore. Yeah, just kind of existing.

711
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.840
And it's this moment that kind of pulls him out

712
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.519
of that and sets him back on the path.

713
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.599
Yeah, I'll tell you this before we move on to

714
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.199
the next scene. The one thing that I thought that

715
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.559
I hadn't seen before where I was just like, damn,

716
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.599
how about when they're selecting They're like they're kind of

717
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.880
selecting who's gonna be slaves and who's not, and then

718
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.519
they're just taking all these kids and shutting them up

719
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.280
in this in this one house and then they torch it.

720
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.039
I'm like, dude, I know, Liam was kind of talking

721
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:41.800
like why would they do that? And the only thing

722
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:45.239
I could think of is that it's a waste of

723
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.559
energy to do anything else with them, Like they they

724
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.719
wouldn't be good for work, They wouldn't be good for anything.

725
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:52.280
You know.

726
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.239
There, I looked at it like they're they're kinda they're

727
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:57.519
kind of separating the weak.

728
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.360
In the siding up to Yeah, and.

729
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:01.679
You know, the last thing you want to do is like,

730
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.360
you know, lead these kids to grow up and become

731
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.280
the next Omeleth and after you. But then again, you

732
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.320
got to wonder, like, because we're talking about the berserkers, right,

733
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.280
my thought is is it possible that they are doing

734
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.760
this to them as a as a mercy, Like it's

735
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.079
a mercy kill so that they don't they're not left

736
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:21.719
to fend for themselves and starve to death in the

737
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:22.239
in the winter.

738
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.519
And yeah, because when they know when when Omeleth gets

739
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:31.880
to Iceland, fuel Near looks at the group that he's

740
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.639
with and he's like, now these people are going to

741
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.440
live through the winter. Just kill them all, Yeah, kill

742
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.639
them or sell them, like I have no use for them.

743
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.400
So I think they're able to quickly assess like these

744
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.199
ones are gonna make it and these ones are not.

745
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.440
Yeah, next scene the game they play on the field

746
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.440
when when he makes it.

747
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.840
To I was so excited for this. I had no

748
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:55.480
idea what was.

749
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.880
Going on, and I've been practicing all day. I'm I'm

750
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:58.639
gonna give it a shot.

751
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.519
The game is called knock Like It.

752
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.639
It's the most badass game ever played.

753
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.880
And listeners, if you haven't seen this movie and you're

754
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:10.559
not familiar with knock Like It.

755
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:12.400
Two teams.

756
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.880
Everyone has what looks to be an axe handle in

757
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.280
their hands, and the object is to take a hard

758
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.280
ball and use an axe handle as a bat, hit

759
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.039
it at the post on your opponent's side of the field.

760
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:30.519
And meanwhile, it's rugby liking nature and beating each other

761
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.880
to death is encouraged. This is the most brutal thing

762
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:33.440
I've ever seen.

763
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.880
The game's awesome. Let's bring it back the primetime, That's

764
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:37.760
what I'm saying. Amber.

765
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.679
Well, Liam was really excited. He thought it was something

766
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:46.000
called hurling, which is like the Celtic version. Yeah, so

767
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:47.559
he had to look it up. So I guess this

768
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.679
is something that was very popular amongst all the people

769
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:53.360
back in the day.

770
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:55.679
Okay, my research was kind.

771
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.320
Of brutal lacrosse mixed with aki, mixed.

772
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.679
With make rugby rugby, with you know, taking an axent

773
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:08.639
on just beating someone sence. Yeah, yeah, I listen.

774
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:14.800
My research was as mearticulous as uh Google, what is

775
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:16.719
the awesome game played in the Northmen.

776
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.719
And then that's when Google to even try to pronounce it.

777
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.480
They just gave me the paragraph, and that's I was like,

778
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.239
not click it, and I had to. I went. I

779
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.719
went and learned how to say it, so it sounded

780
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:27.239
pretty good.

781
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.719
Game's awesome, Absolutely love it. Uh Amber, Let's talk about

782
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.559
Queen Gudrin's betrayal. So I'll be honest with you. I'm

783
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.400
what first time watched, I'm like, this feels very Hamlet like,

784
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.360
but it's not gonna be Hamlet because Nicole Kimmen was

785
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.679
you know, her husband was murdered and by the way

786
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.159
ethan hawk getting what like three arrows to the torso

787
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:51.199
before being beheaded.

788
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.920
Well and plus also fuel their is a wus it

789
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.559
took him three chops.

790
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.000
Three chops to take his head off. Come on, man on. Yeah,

791
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:03.199
but the betrayal, like I was shocked because I'm like,

792
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:06.159
I shouldn't have been shocked because it's Hamlet, but when

793
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.639
he shows up, you know, I'm here to save you mother,

794
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.440
and then she gets all just nasty.

795
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.679
I kind of liked it because at least like she

796
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.039
picked a side and Hamlet Gertrude's very wishy washy like

797
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.039
sometimes you can player where she's okay with the uncle,

798
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.239
you know, doing what he did, and sometimes you know,

799
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.880
they play her is more tragic and yeah, she's kind

800
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.199
of in this situation that she didn't have a choice.

801
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.920
So I kind of liked that. Nicole Kivin was like

802
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.519
straight up villain.

803
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.199
Yeah, just the Yeah, I hated your dad he was

804
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.119
you know, I mean, for a quick second, you're like,

805
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.960
oh wait, maybe maybe King Ethan Hawk wasn't so noble

806
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.679
because she pulls her her dress open to see the

807
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.280
branding on her collar bone. So now you know that

808
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.599
same thing happened to her that has happened to Anya,

809
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:02.920
Taylor Joy and.

810
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:03.599
The rest of these slaves.

811
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.360
So I was like, but man, you I didn't. I

812
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.039
just didn't see that coming. I should have because it

813
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:11.679
is Hamlet. But man, and you know what, Gertrude Gundrin,

814
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.599
Queen Gundrin, there.

815
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.239
You go, more Hamlet love that. You know what I'm

816
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:16.599
gonna say.

817
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:18.239
I'm gonna tell you right now, that's my pick for

818
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:23.119
the pivotal moment because this man has spent the last

819
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.480
what twenty years of his life, you know, with the

820
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:29.199
the hope that he'll see his mother again, and he'll

821
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:33.119
savor and then he'll take his revenge and uh, you know,

822
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.519
take care of his dad's honor, only to find out

823
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:38.960
it's it's all been for nothing.

824
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.119
His mom was the main villain the whole time. Terrible.

825
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:46.320
Just that's that's my pick. I got one more scene.

826
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:48.599
Maybe it's your pivotal moment, and if it's not, I'm

827
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.800
gonna ask you what it is. I want to talk

828
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.039
about the final duel at the Gates of Hell. I

829
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.199
I can't if if you've got to fight someone, the

830
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.000
idea that there's a place called the Gates of Hell,

831
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.000
that's that's it's gotta be the place you get to

832
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.360
every time, you know, two naked guys just hashing out

833
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:09.000
their differences. Amber you know, Fiona gets beheaded as om

834
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:10.039
Leus gets stabbed.

835
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.639
It's like it's a great gra isn't it. Because I

836
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:21.320
was really tense because I was like, this is Hamlet,

837
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.239
and so he's not supposed to make it.

838
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.159
Yeah, but I don't want him to lose.

839
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.239
Yeah, he just like walks out of there and you know,

840
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.039
goes to live happily ever after with Anya Taylor Joy,

841
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:33.079
Like I'm gonna be pissed.

842
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.400
Your first thought is that he you know, you know

843
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.440
he's not making it out when when he jumps off

844
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.400
the boat and and leaves her and he he just

845
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.039
looks back and says, your son will be a king.

846
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.639
You're like, Oh, that's that's the I'm not coming back line.

847
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.320
You know, that's that's the queen and Sparta saying come

848
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:51.559
back with your shield or on it.

849
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:56.679
Right. Love that moment, but it is a it's a

850
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:58.559
great shot, and a lot of this is shadow. You

851
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.119
know that this this fight happens in the shadows.

852
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.880
And you know it's not that they were cheaping out

853
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.159
on it's just the fact that, again meticulous to detail,

854
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.400
he wanted these guys to be completely naked for this

855
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.400
battle because that's.

856
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:12.079
What it would have been.

857
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.519
And the studio is like, we can't have male full

858
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:15.320
frontal nudity.

859
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.599
Were women, it would have been a different story.

860
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.039
I Amber, I'm not listening. I don't make the rules.

861
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.719
I just go see the movies. I would have been OK,

862
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:26.920
I would have cared whatever.

863
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:32.440
But again, it's the the director of photography is just

864
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.760
doing amazing work here. It's a it's a it's an

865
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.679
awesome moment, and I love the fact that it ends

866
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:39.920
you know to your point, he's not walking away.

867
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:42.599
He we get the visions of Olga.

868
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.880
And his children as the the Valkyrie carries him to Valhalla.

869
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.239
That's that's the heroes, that's the hero's end that you

870
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.199
want for him.

871
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.199
And I think it's fantastic. So I look, I gotta ask,

872
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.599
what what is the pivotal moment? Because you haven't spoke up.

873
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.840
I got five scenes for you are about to be

874
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.199
about to drop a six one.

875
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.000
Yes, because those were all great. But the one that

876
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.719
hit me the first time I watched, and the one

877
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:16.559
that just keeps coming back to me is after child

878
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:22.880
Omeleth Yeah, escapes from being killed by his uncle and

879
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.239
his uncle's men, and he sneaks out of the village.

880
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.119
He sees his mother carried off. He sneaks out of

881
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.519
the village and he runs to a boat and he

882
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.079
I mean, it takes this little kid like all of

883
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.599
his strength to get this boat into the water, and

884
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.079
then he starts rowing across the ocean and he just

885
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.800
keeps repeating, I will avenge you father, I will save

886
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.760
you mother, I will kill you fuel near And that's

887
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.280
what gets and you believe that he rows from one

888
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.360
side of the ocean to the other, just to that

889
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.079
mantra the whole time.

890
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.000
That is a great scene. You're absolutely right. I love it. Yeah,

891
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.639
because that's the hero is on his quest at that point. Yes,

892
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.559
good pick, Amber, so powerful, very powerful.

893
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.159
Let's take one last break and we come back. We'll

894
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.199
wrap this thing up. Amber, welcome back.

895
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:17.920
We have been discussing Robert Edgars The Northman. Amber. If

896
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:23.159
if someone was unfamiliar with Edgar's, which three films would

897
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:27.440
you suggest they watch? Well, I haven't seen a big

898
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.760
not a big fought Yeah. Wait, I haven't seen three.

899
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:31.280
I have not seen three.

900
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.239
Okay, because it's not a big philmography here.

901
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.159
No, no, it's not at all. But I will tell

902
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.239
you that I love the movie The Witch so much

903
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.599
that I tell everybody to watch this movie.

904
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.599
I have not seen The Witch, and I know that.

905
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.880
I know this is his feature film debut. I've heard

906
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.920
nothing but good things of it about it. I know

907
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.119
it stars Anya Taylor Joy. I just didn't get get

908
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:58.480
it on my.

909
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.360
Watch list fast enough, so I haven't seen it.

910
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.480
I have I have a I have a hunch that

911
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.239
it would probably make my my three my three suggestions,

912
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.239
but it's not and I'm only being fair. I haven't

913
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:09.519
seen it, so that's why I didn't pick it. But

914
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:11.639
what else do you have besides the Witch?

915
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.280
This one? And then Liam has told me that I

916
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.800
would not like the Lighthouse. He saw it and he

917
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.519
was like, eh, I don't know. This one's ryo. Let

918
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:26.159
me really interested to seeing thos Ratu.

919
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:30.159
Okay, so you're you're going with the Witch, you're going

920
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:30.719
with the Northmen.

921
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.239
Let me tell you something about Liam. He's not lying

922
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:34.440
to you.

923
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.880
I think the lighthouse my boys like if there's something

924
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.280
and I'm not really sure, like I ask you, guys

925
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:42.920
me wrong.

926
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.679
I will tell you this. The Lighthouse is definitely one

927
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:49.760
of my picks. I would suggest to someone. I just

928
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:55.800
wouldn't suggest it to you. It is. It's a stunning film.

929
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:01.320
It's it's like two Men and the Dissent into Madness,

930
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:06.199
but it's you know, you said Banana's crazy, you said bonkers.

931
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.960
The Lighthouse is both and a whole lot more. It's

932
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.599
a little unsettling, but damn it's it's it's good. If

933
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.000
you're brave, you know, give it a shot.

934
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.519
You know it's very art house, you know, black and white,

935
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.400
it's you know, getting the picture is just it's gorgeous.

936
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.280
But I don't know. I feel like you need to

937
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:26.400
watch The Witch and then we reconvene because Okay, the

938
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.119
Witch is very scary.

939
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.239
Okay, hey, I love scary. I love Anya Taylor Joy,

940
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:35.800
I'm in. I love Edgars, I'm in we I'm with

941
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:36.519
you on the Northman.

942
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.639
I would definitely recommend this one to someone who's not

943
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.880
familiar with his work. And then lastly, I went and

944
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:48.320
saw Nose Fratu uh Christmas, and it is incredible what

945
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:53.519
Lily Rose Depp is doing in this film. What Bill

946
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:58.159
Scar's garden, Eric's Eric, Alexander, I'm thinking of Eric, Eric

947
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.480
from True Blood again, Alexander, his his brother Bill who

948
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.519
we we know and love, is Penny Wise and you know,

949
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:06.559
among other characters.

950
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.039
I don't know anything about this. I didn't know who

951
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:10.000
was in it.

952
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.519
It's it's a very faithful adaptation of the original noes

953
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:21.000
Fratu starring Max Shrek, but so much better, so much better,

954
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.559
and the performances are are just incredible. The maybe one

955
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.519
of the most beautifully shot films I've ever seen. I would,

956
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.239
I would, I would urge you go see it on

957
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:31.440
the big screen.

958
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.679
It is it's it's just it's sinfully delicious and macabre.

959
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.159
I would say, and uh, maybe don't watch it with like, uh,

960
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.239
you know, a child or someone that you don't want

961
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.840
to feel awkward next to, because there's there's so there's

962
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.840
a little bit of a rotticism I'll say, you know.

963
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.360
I mean I watched it by myself, so you know,

964
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.360
but I thankfully my younger sister was like, oh, I

965
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:56.920
want to see that.

966
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:57.880
I was like, oh, maybe, well go see it.

967
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.079
I'm so glad I wasn't sitting next to her watching

968
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:02.719
what I what I saw, and I won't I won't

969
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:03.119
say anymore.

970
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:04.559
I won't spoil it for you, Amber, but it's it's

971
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:05.440
a damn good movie.

972
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.400
It's definitely my pick for for you know, someone that's

973
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:10.800
wanting to see more of Egger's work.

974
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:15.599
Now, his next project has been announced. He's doing Labyrinth.

975
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.840
No no word yet whether it's a straight up remake

976
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.119
of the nineteen eighty six David Bowie film I Know,

977
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.559
or are reimagining. They haven't said, like, it might be

978
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.719
a different take, it might be. We don't know what

979
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:30.519
it is. For all we know, Amber, it could be.

980
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:32.719
I mean, let's just hope it's the Greek myth, and

981
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:33.719
we'll just leave it at that.

982
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.519
Hey, let's let's just hope that you remember we did

983
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.800
Labyrinth on nineteen eighty six and I had a killer

984
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.119
proposal for a sequel with an adult Jennifer Connelly.

985
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.400
So let's let's hope. Let's hope that's happening. I don't know,

986
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:48.400
but I gotta ask you, you know, because now that

987
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:48.760
we know.

988
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.519
That he's he's he's into the studio system. He's willing

989
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:57.280
to do you know, he's willing, he's willing to adapt stuff.

990
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.480
You've seen this movie twice now you love it. Amber.

991
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:03.880
My question to you, how would.

992
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:08.159
You feel if Edgars chose to do a remake of

993
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.840
ex Caliber or Conan the Barbarian? I mean, is this

994
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.760
the guy that could do either or possibly both.

995
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.519
Oh that's funny because I was thinking of ex Caliber

996
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:22.400
in the The Coming of Age. Yeah, ceremony when they're

997
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.480
going up the Tree of Kings. Yeah, because it's like

998
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.039
that tree in ex Caliber, whether all the dead knights

999
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:29.320
that went after the Grail.

1000
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.239
Yeah, he I'd be up for it, Like that would.

1001
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:35.559
Be really interesting.

1002
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.800
Man, if only we can get this to him, you know, Hey,

1003
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:40.400
let's get it.

1004
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.000
To him before he does something level and tries to touch

1005
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:48.119
the classic that is David Bowie's labor.

1006
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.599
Well, we'll see, we'll see. You clearly recommend this film.

1007
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.000
I know you love it, right, so heck yeah yeah.

1008
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.679
It is currently streaming on Peacock. It's available to rent

1009
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.000
on those platforms, and no question about it.

1010
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.119
I'd recommend this film.

1011
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.000
Stop a favor, go out and just buy it in

1012
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.199
the four K and make yourself happy.

1013
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.440
Better, that's a better choice.

1014
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.199
But this is anyone that's into Norse mythology, Hamlet, Conan,

1015
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:14.239
the Barbarian or vikings in general, this.

1016
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:15.840
Is the movie for you. It's it's awesome.

1017
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.559
Yes, listeners, what do you think of Robert Adger's The Northman?

1018
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.960
Have you seen it? Did we get this one wrong?

1019
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.000
We didn't number We didn't let us know on social.

1020
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.760
Watch it again. If you didn't like it, you weren't attention.

1021
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.360
Let us know what you thought on social media. You'll

1022
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.880
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1023
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.679
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1024
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.920
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1025
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:43.440
We got some fun articles, We got some other fun

1026
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.239
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1027
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1028
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.159
You can always email your questions, comments and concerns on

1029
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.199
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1030
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.840
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1031
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.440
show and send you some of film By swag. This Friday,

1032
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.079
We've got a fantastic treat for all of you Phantasm

1033
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.719
fans out there. David and I will be chatting with

1034
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:13.079
none other than the Lady in Lavender herself, Kat Lester.

1035
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.360
That's right, Kat will be joining us to discuss her

1036
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.840
history with the Phantasm franchise, her thoughts yes Amber, her

1037
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.159
thoughts on its potential future, and a whole lot more.

1038
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.920
That's that's this Friday. We're not waiting around to you.

1039
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.239
I told Amber, I told you we got we got

1040
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.199
these bonus episodes that are gonna we're gonna drop every

1041
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.639
now and then on Fridays. We're We're not messing around,

1042
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.480
coming out with a bang. Uh, Amber.

1043
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.480
I want to thank you for joining me on our

1044
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:43.360
season premiere.

1045
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.960
Oh thank you. I would not have watched this movie

1046
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.880
otherwise that I would have been missing out.

1047
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.679
Well, listen, our listeners are not missing out on you anymore.

1048
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.360
We We put that survey out back in December asking

1049
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.719
people you know, there's a bunch of questions, but a

1050
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.840
lot of people asking for more Amber Lewis, and we

1051
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.320
are going to supply that.

1052
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:06.239
Amber.

1053
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.119
You and I I know, I know you're with me

1054
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.840
next week, next Monday when we talk about an American president,

1055
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.360
I know you have. You know, I probably overloaded you

1056
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.280
with with the stuff in March.

1057
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:22.840
You know, I stopped looking at the calendar because I

1058
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:24.719
was just like, okay, so it's just me basically.

1059
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:29.960
Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of with Amber for people. Yeah, no,

1060
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:33.960
I'm I'm excited Amber, I'm so happy excited a regular

1061
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.280
co host, Yes, so much. Yeah, looking forward to it.

1062
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.239
We're happy to have you all back.

1063
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.719
And uh for all of you listening to the show,

1064
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:45.000
following us on social media, and subscribing to our Patreon,

1065
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:46.159
we thank you.

1066
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Am I

1067
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Him the