Jan. 18, 2026

Ron Howard - The Da Vinci Code

Ron Howard - The Da Vinci Code
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Season 7A Film By...

Jeff and Amber debate the merits of pandering to the audience, puzzles, and Tom Hanks' performance in Ron Howard's 2006 film adaptation of Dan Brown's best-selling novel The DaVinci Code! 

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So last week we discussed the Royal Tenen Bombs. You

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and I love the board game closet featured in that film,

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and you made an astute observation about the games featured

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in that closet, did you not?

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I did, because I noticed that they were not games

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of chance. They were all, you know, games where you

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really had to work a puzzle and really use your intellect.

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Amber.

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How fitting is it that this week our film heavily

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features a strong use of puzzle solving. Yes, well, let's

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talk about a film by Ron Howard, his two thousand

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and six controversial religious conspiracy thriller The Da Vinci Code.

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Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and this

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is a film by podcast. I gotta tell you one

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of my favorite things last week on social media was, uh,

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the fight And I know that's a strong word in

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this situation, but the fight between are beloved Wayne Whited

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and the voice of reason Amber Lewis over the Golden Globes.

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I believe I was disagreeing with him, but when he

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gets it wrong, he gets her wrong. What can I say?

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Oh?

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Well, Wayne, Wayne had something similar to say about you

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off Mike when they were doing, they're doing.

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We're doing well.

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When we we just did our John Carpenter episode last

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Friday and we were talking.

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I told him how much I enjoyed it. He's like, well,

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you know, I tried to well, I took it easy

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on her. I'll tell you that.

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I was like, oh, we have we have got to

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find a project for you and Wayne to do, because

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I would love to see more of that.

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If that's possible, I absolutely would Amber.

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We have talked about Rocky ba baa and the World

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tenem bombs, and the back half of this month the

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focus will be on Ron Howard. We kind of we

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kind of we're having fun this this season. You know,

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we're celebrating the films of two thousand and one and

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two thousand and six. We're doing big movies, tent pole movies,

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blockbuster films which we don't normally get to talk about.

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And we thought, let's let's have like theme months.

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Right.

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The first theme that we came up with January, we

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were calling Ron Howard and the Redemption of Rocky and Royal.

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So we've talked about Royal tenebaumb We've talked about Rocky Baba.

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Now we're talking about Ron Howard for a couple of weeks.

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And we're not the only ones excited about Ron Howard.

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We have another Patreon request episode coming this month. Brad

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Moore will be joining us at just the right time

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because Amber. He happens to be a big Ron Howard fan,

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and he's chosen Cenderellaman for his.

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Episode, Oh good One.

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Love Love that one.

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If like Brad, you'd like to choose your own exclusive

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Patreon episode, all you need to do is sign up

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at www dot patreon dot com slash a film by

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podcast to support our show right now. You'll get access

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to a large library of exclusive bonus episodes starting for

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as little as three dollars. Amber, I don't even know

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if you can buy a cup of coffee.

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For that amount of money.

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Fix.

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This is not the first time we've discussed a Ron

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Howard film on a Film By You, and I covered

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his nineteen eighty two comedy Night Shift Listeners.

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Go back and check that episode out. I do believe

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it's one of Amber's very first on the show, Was

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it not? Amber? It?

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Yeah? If not like the first very early on.

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Howard was nominated for a Razzie for his directing on

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the Da Vinci code, which.

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I don't understand.

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Oh I do.

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Oh so that's okay. Now I like that, my friend,

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it's like that.

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You know, he lost that one to M Knight Shyamalan

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for Lady in the Water.

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Think about that. It's a tough year for the Howard family.

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Ron gets a Worst Director nomination and then his daughter

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Bryce Dallas Howard is in the director's film that wins

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the award.

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Yeah, and I actually like, I don't hate on Lady

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in the Water. Like, it's not my favorite of A'm

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not Shyamalan's, but I'm not mad at it now. I

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like this one.

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I'm gonna be honest. I've never seen Lady in the Water.

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I played a little fair motel he made for his daughters.

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So it's a sweet little thing.

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Well your opinion, you're coming out swinging at Ron Howard.

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That's not on this That's.

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Not a switch thing.

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I met at everybody almost in this movie.

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Jesus, it's gonna be a long episode.

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Things you may not know about this director and a

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quote Amber. In nineteen seventy one, he appeared as a

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contestant on the popular game show The Dating Game and

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ended up choosing Bachelorette number two, Nola Green. Now, things

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obviously didn't pan out for Nola because he did marry

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actress Cheryl Hines in nineteen seventy five.

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I was going to say, I know his wife's name

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is Cheryl, so I don't think that was a forever match.

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But it was not, poor Nola.

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In nineteen eighty six, the best year ever for films

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in the eighties, Howard and his producing partner Brian Grazer

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co founded Imagine Entertainment to create independently produced feature films.

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So think about that.

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I always think of like Imagine, Like when you see

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that that logo at the beginning of a movie, it

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always felt like it was like a nineties thing, like

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a late nineties thing, or a two thousand thing.

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But no, it's back in nineteen eighty six.

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They got it going. Now you are gonna love this

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one Amber. According to his daughter Bryce Dallas Howard, all

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four of his children are named for the places they

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were conceived.

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I know this, I know you know this. It's their

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I believe it's their middle names. Are the streets that

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they were living on.

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Well, okay, so Bryce Dallas in Dallas, Texas.

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Okay, which First off, can we can we just talk

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about the fact that these parents are naming their children

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for where they got it on.

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I dig that. I think it's hilarious.

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Page Carlisle and Joscelyn Carlisle at the Hotel Carlisle and

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New York City and then Reid Cross after a specific road,

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but no mention of where it was, what what city

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or what town.

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That's just in the moment.

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Well, if he was conceived on a road, then that

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is absolutely that's some backseat, uh back seats go on there.

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Now.

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On his proclivity to make films about real life Americans

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and events, Ron said, there is something inherently tough about Americans.

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They will not accept defeat. The astronauts of Apollo thirteen

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would not give up, John Nash in a Beautiful Mind

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would not give up, and Jimmy Braddock, the subject of

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Cinderella Man, would never surrender to poverty.

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I never really put.

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It together that he does a lot of biopics and

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it's always about, you know, these great Americans or American events,

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And now that I now that I'm seeing, I'm like.

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Yeah, that's the yeah, the tracks.

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He's a he's he's he's the go to director for it,

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I would think lewis Uh.

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I'm excited for this part.

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We talked about this last week, the five words synopsis.

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We're not doing these long winded descriptions of these underrated

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movies because these are big blockbusters. Everyone knows what the

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DaVinci code is about. And the challenge here is you

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need to give us a synopsis using exactly five words.

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I have one, you have one? This time?

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Lay it on me.

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What do you got?

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Grail Quest uncovers ancient scene, worrying, but five words.

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Listen, if we were playing the game, you know, I

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would that that five word synopsis almost would have me,

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maybe a lot of other people saying Indiana Jones and

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last Crusade.

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That's the first thing I think of Indy talk about

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the girls.

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So yeah, how about yeah? But I like that You're

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you see now You're Yeah? I love that one. How

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about Professor Mysterious Religious Secret?

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Ooh, that's a little more on the news. How about

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then that could also be raised the Lost art too.

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Yeah. Man, we're seeing a lot.

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I've seen a little tie in between Robert Langdon and

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Indiana Jones all of a sudden, how about this one?

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You know this one that can't be I don't think

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you could. You could mistake this one for an India

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Jones film. How about Hank's hair fights albino monk.

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That's narrows it down.

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You're gonna get that one, Yep, for sure. Can I just.

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Say that when this movie came out and it's celebrating

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it's it's.

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What twentieth anniversary, which is awesome.

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When this first came out, I don't think the world

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was ready for Tom Hanks and long hair.

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No, that was like all anybody talked about.

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That's all. Yeah, have you seen the Da Vinci Code?

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And then it was a ten minute conversation about Tom

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hanks haircut. I haven't watched this in a while and

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seeing it today, seeing it today, I'm like, you know what,

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I dig it.

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It's a good look for him.

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It's the least of his problems in this movie.

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Like, oh, seriously, you.

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Know, before it was a movie, it nearly became adapted

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for a popular TV series.

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Do you do you know about the Samber?

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No? But I was kind of thinking when I was

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watching it it might have played better as like a

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limited series, like an eight episode kind of thing.

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You'll never guess where this one was headed. The creator

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of twenty four remember that show?

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Yes, I love that show.

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Yeah, great show, love that show. The creator's so.

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Mad that they never did like just a thing before

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going to commercial or something where like he goes into

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the bathroom and the clock just texts I waited for it.

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So the creator wanted to use the book as a

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running storyline for the show's third season.

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Imagine that for a second, Jack.

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Because there's a lot of the puzzles in the trivia

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and things from the book that didn't make it into

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the movie, even though it's three freaking hours long, so

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you could have, you know, had a little more fun

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with that.

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It could have been. Uh.

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He asked his boss, long time Ron Howard collaborator Brian

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Grazer to acquire the film rights to the book. Damn

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Brown refused, stating that he didn't want the book adapted

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for TV and lo and behold. A few months later,

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Sony Pictures gets the film rights and hires Brian Grazer

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as producer.

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So that's he was it. Yeah, Grazer was going for

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it no matter what. Amber.

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Let's take a quick break before we talk about the cast.

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Before we do, though, can I cat plug something like?

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Oh see that it's yeah, is it a candle.

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They're called the Euphoric tree Fort. We met these guys,

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the conmen. We met them at one of the one

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of the conventions them Amber. These candles are basically they

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describe them as smellovision. So yeah, and the purpose of

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lighting it so that you get the full effect. And

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you've got to check out Yeah, the Euphoric tree Fort

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dot com.

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That's their website.

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Yeah, I got to tell you first off, they're wonderful people. Uh.

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And I bought, I bought, I bought several of these,

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you know, the one I just showed you. It's called

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Movie Theater and the smell. The smell is described as

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popcorn and cola. I would say, you gotta see it

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to believe it. You gotta smell it to believe it.

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I'm smelling right now. It smells like fresh popcorn and soda.

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It's awesome.

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That is awesome.

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The other one I got, uh, which is the perfect

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candle for any like Western or war.

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Film that you're watching.

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kind of got that from like Inglorious Bastards. Sure, the

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the scent for the Bastard's candle is gun smoke, fall

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leaves and scotch. That's amazing, and it smells so good

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like the first time I watched I think it was

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the The Unforgiven was the first movie I.

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Watched with it. And it seriously, you're watching Clint, you know,

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fire fires his revolver and you I you can smell

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gun smoke like it's it's awesome. Listeners, you know, check

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out the u Fort tree for it. Uh, Because if.

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You want the ultimate candle for your movie watching experience,

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you gotta you gotta get these candles and the amber

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they've got like I don't know, like twenty different sense

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you know, there's all kinds.

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Of of awesome stuff, Like they've.

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watching Bob's Burgers. They've got like a like a cheeseburger candle.

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I remember seeing that at the at the show, and

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it smells like, you know, a burger, a cheeseburger with.

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Lettuce and pickles and all this stuff. It's it's wild,

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you know, it's it's so wild crazy. Yeah. Yeah, check

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them out. In the meantime, we'll be right back. Welcome back.

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Amber Lewis, the Voice of Reason and myself are discussing

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and celebrating the twentieth anniversary of Ron Howard's The Da

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Vinci Code. Let's talk about Tom Hanks as Robert Langdon.

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This cast.

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Okay, I'm okay. Now interesting that you say that.

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Listen to this because I know you're gonna have an opinion,

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because you always do. Ron Howard initially had Bill Paxton

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in mind for the role, but his commitments to the

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Showtime series Big Love kept him from doing it.

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So before I go.

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That's the sadness for all of us, I think been awesome.

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Okay, so you're so you're taking Paxton over Hanks immediately.

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Anybody, Okay, Okay, so yes, I think Bill Paxton would

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have been really interesting and fun.

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Two others considered for this role were George Clooney and

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Hugh Jackman, and.

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Know about that, but I did read that Pierce Brosnan

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was in the running at one point, and I would

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have gone for that.

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Oh brosenin Obviously he would have crushed this role.

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But it's just too because of the adventure that's that's involved.

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It's just too it's too close.

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To Bond, James Bond.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm taking I'm taking Paxton overall, yes, no question.

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So all right, are you going? Are you going short

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hair Paxston? Are you going like long hair Paxston? Long

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hair is in like Twisters Paxston. Do you want the

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buzz cut Paxton?

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Or do you want like that.

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Like Twister Packston, Twister Paston Packstone. The extreme okay, the extreme,

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not not Terminator with the really long.

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Hair, okay, Amber first impressions matter, right, yes. Allegedly, on

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the first day of filming, Paul Bettany mistakenly punched Tom

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Hanks hard enough in their fight scene that he inadvertently

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farted loudly from the pain.

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Oh my god, he knocked all the wind out of him.

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He literally knocked the windown.

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That's the that's gonna detailed journalism you're gonna get on

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the show.

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I saw that. I was like, you're never gonna hear that.

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You're never gonna hear that anywhere else. I'm talking about it.

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Moving on, because clearly you're not. You're not a Hanks

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in this.

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I was gonna say, hang on, I'm a huge Tom

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Hanks fan.

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No, no movie, Okay, miscast. I don't think he's horrible.

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I just think he's miscast.

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Well, I don't like anything he's doing, so yeah, it's

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anything at all. No, not a thing. But there are

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actors that just exude in intelligence. He is not one

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of them. He exudes kindness, hetains competence, but he is like.

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Nothing he says makes me believe that he has this

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knowledge at his fingertips. I want and his brain works

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on this different level than the rest of us.

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I want so badly to disagree with you and all, like,

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all my brain is doing right now, instead of giving

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me specific examples to debate you with, all my brain

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is doing is giving me the SoundBite of his incredibly

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hilarious and very long laugh.

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From the money pit when the bathtub goes through the wall.

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Part of that movie.

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It's everybody's favorite part of that movie.

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But yeah, okay, let's let's let's let's give Tom a bray.

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Let's move on. Audrey Torteau Amber as Sophie Nouveaue.

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A lot of people, a lot of non French people,

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see her last name and they think it's tattoo.

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Yeah, it's it's Tortu.

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Mm hmm.

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But you do that because, yeah, thank you, because you're

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the you're the French expert. Did you did you know

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that she was named after Audrey Hepburn?

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I did not.

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I think I think Audrey, and I'm talking about Tortu.

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Uh here, well, I guess i'd be.

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I could be talking about both of them, but uh,

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Tortu is absolutely adorable in this film.

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I love her.

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She's too young. She's too young, and she also does

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not She's supposed to be like wicked smart, and they

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dumbed her down like some of that's the script. But

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I wanted Juliette Binoche.

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I don't think she got dumbed down.

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I love like her opening, like the introduction to her

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carecharacter where she comes in and she's she cleverly uses

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her answering machine to to talk to Robert Langdon to

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warn him that was about fosh.

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I thought that was awesome. Yeah, did you know?

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It was back to back to her being adorable though.

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During her audition she asked if she could take a

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photo with Ron Howard and Tom Hanks, just to prove

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that she had met them.

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That's awesome. Would have done that?

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Well yeah, well yeah, but bear in mind, it's not

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like she's unknown.

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It's not she's a nobody. This is just a few

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years after she yet starred in Uh Emily that was

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nominated for five Academy Awards.

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She was at she's amazing in that movie.

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Shouldn't she be walking in like like she shouldn't be auditioning?

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She should Hey, I'm I just came out of the

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movie that was nominated for five Academy Awards.

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What are we doing here?

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I don't know even still like Tom Hanks loom large.

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Well, I know your criticism for her specifically is that

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she's too young in this movie, and she also felt

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that way because initially she was like, this isn't right

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for me. I'm too old, and that's when Sophie Marceau,

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Julie Delpy, and Kate Beckinsal were also considered for the

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role of Sophie. I know Delpi lobbied a great deal

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but was ultimately turned down, But you're wanting Juliette.

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Binoche, which is not a bad not a bad call.

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I'm gonna remember from the book how old Sophie is

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supposed to be, but I just kind of pictured her

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and Lyndon being more contemporaries being.

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Well, I don't see.

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Here's how I feel about it, because I can't remember

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her description form the book because it's been probably two

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thousand and one since I read the book.

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I read it when it first came out.

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Yes, well everybody did.

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Everybody did. Everybody did, but I don't remember her description.

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But here's the thing.

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She is the granddaughter of the the curator, you know,

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the guy that sets everything in motion.

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Yes, who gets murdered.

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So I mean she's got to be you know, mid twenties,

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late twenties ish if he's if he's like sixty sixty

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five whatever, maybe he's seventy. But I'm just saying, like,

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I feel like she should have been younger. Than Hanks

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and because he's a professor.

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Let's let's you know, he's a Harvard professor.

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So and I never really felt that there should ever

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be like a chemistry between him, like like you know.

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A Lovengest type of thing. I never know the story

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in the I.

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Just thought they'd be more equals, like Indian Marian.

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Well you know she was a.

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Yeah she was younger.

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Yeah you know, she was a child, right, she knew

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what she was doing, all right.

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Uh.

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Ian McKellen as Sir Lee Tbing. Now I remember, I

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do remember this one in the book t Being's description.

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He's like a portly, ruby faced, jovial English knight and historian,

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and he's got bushy red hair.

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Ian McKellen really the.

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Way I perked up when he showed up, Oh my god,

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he's one of the only fun things in this movie.

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Oh my look, So the one time I'm gonna be like, yeah,

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this is I got something to say, I got I

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gotta I got a nitpick.

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You're now you're like, he doesn't look like he totally

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looks like a nerdy, tweety English guy though.

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Was but based on the descript was Paul giammatty busy

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that day, Like Gimmtty could have tore this role up.

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That is true, he would have been. It would have

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been similar to the role he played in The Illusionist,

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which I adore.

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Well, you know we're gonna cover that later this this year.

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No very excited.

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Man, What a busy month for you that I think

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we got that in like a couple Christopher Nolan movies

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that month.

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It's gonna be a good time people.

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It'll be the Amber Lewis Show, that's for sure.

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I don't know.

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I don't know how I feel about McKellen. I love

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McKellen and pretty much everything, and he.

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Is really good in this.

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It's just one of those situations where I think he's miscaped.

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You know, he's doing a great job.

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I don't think he it's his best. I think he's

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doing the best with what he had to work with.

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But he there are moments where he is just so

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stinging funny. I love him.

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He is, oh, I love I mean, he's he is great.

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Don't get me wrong, he's great. But I guess it's

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one of the problems like where you read the book

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before the movie comes out, right, and then in your

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brain you have you've you've kind of cast the movie,

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because when you know, in two thousand and one, we're

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all like, there is no movie, but we're like, ah,

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this is who, this is who I see. And in

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my head, I'm reading it, and I see like a

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hybrid of Paul Giamatti and Yukon Cornelius if I'm being

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If I'm being honest, that's that's what I saw. Well,

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let's talk about another Paul though, Paul Bettney as a

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SEALSS Silas.

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Yeah, you could have just I mean, you need him,

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but you could have just completely done away with his

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entire character. I hate everything that he's doing. I hate

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his accent, I hate that whole storyline.

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What are you saying that we don't need Are you

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saying we don't need Silas?

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No?

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Well, I said we need him, but I don't know.

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I feel like we could have solved those problems in

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a different way. Here's what I wanted for this movie. Okay,

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because I was thinking about this a lot. I watched

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this like three times this week. I think we talked, well,

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we did the Frankenstein, the Garamadel Torro Frankenstein episode. We

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talked about you're not going to see that movie for

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an according to Hoyle adaptation of the novel. Okay, and

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you're going to see Garamadel Torro's movie. And I think

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for this, I think we needed David Fincher to come

480
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:42.039
in and make a David Fincher movie like conspiracy theory,

481
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.359
heavy dark film.

482
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:47.759
Wait, oh wait, are you now saying.

483
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.359
That completely different in tone?

484
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.559
Are you saying that Ron Howard is miscast? Like you

485
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:53.519
don't even want him as?

486
00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:58.039
I hate this movie. This movie is terrible. It is

487
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.759
so bad. Everything thing about it is.

488
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:06.279
This is an outrage, Dad, No, it's it is a

489
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:06.839
fun read.

490
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.720
Everyone read it. We all know that. But this was

491
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.480
a just a fun, popular movie. It's a fun adventure movie.

492
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.359
No, it's not. It's boring. It's long, oring, dark. You

493
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.240
can't it's lit terribly. You can't see hardly anything.

494
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.680
Oh, you're going off the rails. Let's look back. Paul Bettany, though,

495
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.359
who was clearly miscast, like you know, I.

496
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.759
Well, maybe I would have tolerated. And I hated the accent.

497
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.720
It was too much like what kind of accent did

498
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:34.200
he need? Then?

499
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.960
I just struggled with everybody had a different accent half

500
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.440
the time to speak in French time speaking English like

501
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.519
there was too much to deal with when you can't

502
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.880
see what's going on his character.

503
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.359
I know a lot of people watch this movie and

504
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:53.799
they're like, what the hell is going on? His character

505
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:58.880
performs corporal mortification, which is an extreme act of self

506
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.839
punishment to a tone for one's sins and feel closer

507
00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:02.240
to God.

508
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:03.880
Well, and they don't.

509
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:04.359
Really.

510
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:08.519
You get more explanation in the book about how he

511
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:13.440
is completely insane and nobody does this like he does this.

512
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.440
Well, okay, we're gonna agree right here about insanity. Paul

513
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:23.680
Bettany definitely insane. He did the self chastening scene in

514
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.599
one take because he whipped himself for real to.

515
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:28.759
Give an authentic performance.

516
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:30.559
I hate that.

517
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:36.359
That's a stupid you know, I'm not doing it.

518
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.240
I would argue that even Daniel day Lewis would not

519
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:39.640
do that.

520
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.920
Well, most people are not gonna whip themselves with a

521
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:43.799
cat of nine tails.

522
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.359
Well, he's like the most method of method actors. Well yeah,

523
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.200
even he would be going like, that's bullshit, dude.

524
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.160
You don't think Lewis is if he's this insane monk,

525
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:57.319
he's not, you know, like that little that little to

526
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.200
what's that thing on his leg that I you know,

527
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:02.599
oh bends off.

528
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.240
You know it's yeah, it's not supposed to it down

529
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.519
cranked into your leg to like draw blood. It's just

530
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:15.240
supposed to be like a reminder. Well, and of course

531
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.359
he's crazy, so he does everything wrong.

532
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.200
And before before you draw blood on any of these

533
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.519
other actors, I'll just i'll quickly, we're gonna tell you.

534
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.119
That I love Jean Reno so well that to make

535
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:28.960
you happy, well.

536
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.279
Help me out, give us, give us a French lesson here,

537
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.480
because I looked at I came across this and I'm like,

538
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:35.920
is that real?

539
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.960
Or is that someone's bullshit? Uh? His character be zoophoche.

540
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:41.920
Yes.

541
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:47.279
In French, that supposedly roughly translates to angry fucker.

542
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:55.039
No, No, it's angry. But the Bayzoo part is it's

543
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:56.880
like a street or something like.

544
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.640
It's like could be that could be slain, that could

545
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.680
be like some French slang for me.

546
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:02.279
I don't know.

547
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.359
Maybe it's slang that I don't know.

548
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.799
Well, in addition to Jeanrena, who is fantastic in this role,

549
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.960
we all also got Alfred Molina and Jurgen proc Now which.

550
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.480
I was so happy when he showed up. Heel it

551
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.079
was only there for like a minute, but.

552
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:25.480
Critically under Critically he's good. He's great, yes, but critically underused.

553
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.119
But I love that character though. I love how he's

554
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:33.839
like I have been staring at this account for fifty years,

555
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.000
dying to know what's in this box.

556
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:39.880
When he is the whole back and forth between him

557
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.599
and the detective, when he's sneaking him out in the truck,

558
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.720
I feel like he's given off some real Willem Dafoux vibes. Yes,

559
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.720
like if this was an American movie, Like, if this

560
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.559
was taking place in America, I think Willem Dafoe is

561
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:53.279
playing that part.

562
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.119
Probably that would be good.

563
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.359
Yes, Amber, Let's uh, let's get into the film's background

564
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.519
a little bit. Based on Dan Brown's two thousand and

565
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.920
three New York Times bestseller, the film rights were acquired

566
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.160
for six million dollars.

567
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.720
It's a lot of cash.

568
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.079
The film opened the two thousand and six can Film Festival,

569
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.559
where it was critically maligned. Amber was probably in the

570
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:28.200
audience that year critically a beligned on the basis of

571
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.799
its religious controversy, so much so that Brian Grazer cancels

572
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.839
twenty seven interviews at the festival.

573
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.920
To minimize the negative buzz. Now. I know a lot

574
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:40.920
of people are upset.

575
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.039
I know we don't have time really to get into

576
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.880
the whole all these countries, you know, boycotting it and

577
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.799
all this stuff for the religious connotations. But I'm sure

578
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.039
there were some people in the audience much like you,

579
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:54.440
who are not you know.

580
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:59.440
I mean, I can't care less about the religious controversy, like.

581
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.799
You know, you're just mad that it wasn't a David

582
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.960
Venture film starring Pierce Brosna.

583
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.160
Yea much better now.

584
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.240
While some filming was permitted at the Louver in Paris,

585
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.000
most famous churches referenced in the film, like Westminster Abbey,

586
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.000
forbid filmmaking to take place on location, claiming the book

587
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.039
is theologically unsound.

588
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:27.319
And you know, I mean it's a church, so fair.

589
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.240
But although my brother when he went to London, he

590
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.680
and his wife went to Westminster and you're not allowed

591
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:36.799
to like have your phone out at all, like you

592
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.200
can't take any pictures. They are very very strict.

593
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.599
I I didn't really understand. I never would have believe

594
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.960
that until last year. A friend of mine, Adriana, she

595
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.839
goes to Italy, you know, she she goes over there,

596
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.519
and you know she's she was trying to show show

597
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.160
me pictures of some of these incredible museums and you

598
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.599
know some of these some of the.

599
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.960
Architecture, and like one of the videos, like she's.

600
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.359
Kind of discreetly like kind of panning around just to

601
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.720
show it off, and you can hear like someone no, no, no,

602
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:10.400
no camera.

603
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:10.640
Or something like that.

604
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.720
You know, so I get it, Like, you know, they

605
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:14.920
don't want they don't want stuff out, you know, they

606
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:15.279
don't want you.

607
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.839
Yeah, it has to because Sam's the same way. He

608
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.880
would like totally have been able to figure out a

609
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.400
way to like sneak a picture of something, but he

610
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.559
was like, ah ah, they will throw you out.

611
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:26.200
You know.

612
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.039
And I can understand with some of like for example,

613
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.000
like they're filming in the louver and they were specifically

614
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.599
told like you cannot be in here while we're open.

615
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.799
You cannot have certain film equipment in here, like when

616
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:40.839
they got near like the Mona Lisa. It's a obviously

617
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.480
it's a reproduction, but the main reason it's a reproduction

618
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.960
is because they were not allowed to have the film

619
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.559
lights hit the actual painting for fear that it would

620
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:51.079
be damaged.

621
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.799
So you know, there's a lot of reproductions that you see.

622
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.119
But at the same time.

623
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.279
I thought it was really cool if they allowed them

624
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.440
to shoot inside and yes on the premises, I thought

625
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.000
that was really cool.

626
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:03.039
Yes.

627
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:08.640
Ron Howard's longtime collaborator on the music scene, James Horner,

628
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.680
was replaced by Hans Zimmer after Horner chose to compose

629
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.400
music for Terrence Malick's The.

630
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.920
New World, which don't get me started about Malick. I

631
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.720
think he's overrated.

632
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.720
Zimmer's wonderful score, however, was nominated for both the Golden

633
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.359
Globe and Academy Award for Best Score.

634
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.160
Amber. You at least have to say the music, and

635
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.200
this is is just.

636
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.200
You don't even like the me Are you serious? No,

637
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.319
you're now, You're just now you're just being ridiculous. Now

638
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.000
you're just saying like I hate it for everything.

639
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.359
I'm not just doing it to be argumentative. I'm telling

640
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:48.160
you that nothing about this I think it's it's cheesy.

641
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:49.599
It's it's cheesy.

642
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.839
Yeah.

643
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.480
Zimmer lost the Gold Globe to the Painted Veil, which

644
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:56.400
you probably love.

645
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:57.480
You know, that's a mistake.

646
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:02.160
I've never heard of it, and the Academy Award. It

647
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.000
lost the Academy word a babble which I remember the movie,

648
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.039
but I vaguely, but I don't remember the music at all.

649
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.839
There was music was not even really a thing in

650
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:10.519
that movie.

651
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.839
That should have it should have won both in my opinion.

652
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.799
But I guess, uh, I.

653
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:16.559
Need to cool off.

654
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.240
We're gonna take one more break and then when we

655
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.240
get back, well, we'll talk about a scene which I don't.

656
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.240
Know where you're gonna go. This is gonna be interesting.

657
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:28.880
We'll be back. Welcome back.

658
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:33.279
This is where we are now talking about the scene Amber.

659
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:39.519
Before we talk about your scene, tell me are you picking?

660
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.200
Are you choosing this scene because of it's cinematography, it's

661
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.640
strong performance. Do you think it's the pivotal moment? Why

662
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.759
are you choosing the scene you're about to lay on us?

663
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.720
It was the only scene that didn't really piss me off.

664
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:57.880
Hold on, hold on, I don't see that in the

665
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.680
in the lineup. Yeah, it didn't piss Amber Lewis off.

666
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:03.599
That is not an option.

667
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.239
I guess maybe it's the pivotal moment because it's well,

668
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.440
it's the big reveal at the end. You're searching for

669
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.639
the holy Grail through the whole movie and there are

670
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.039
a couple of different times that you think you've found

671
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.840
it okay, only to realize that it's not there.

672
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.039
All right, So what's okay?

673
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.960
I picked a scene that I think is a pivotal moment.

674
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.199
So now we both have a pivotal moment scene. And

675
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.519
you're talking towards the end of the movie, so specifically.

676
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.079
I mean basically the very end of the movie. But right,

677
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.480
it's a very specific section because I love when Langdon

678
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.000
all of a sudden, like the adventures over and he's

679
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.079
back at his hotel and he's thinking about everything, and

680
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.800
then he realizes, wait a second, I know where it is,

681
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.920
and he follows the rose line through Paris back to

682
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.440
the Louver where we began and kneels in front of

683
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.760
the pyramid. Now before we go into the pyramid. Yeah,

684
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.159
that section though, where he kneels, Like, I like that part.

685
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.119
I liked that part in the book. I like it

686
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.400
in the movie. I don't like that we go into

687
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.159
the pyramid, Like, I'm not stupid, I know what he's.

688
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.119
Doing, Like, okay, let's let's focus on the positive.

689
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:24.960
But I like what he kneels.

690
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.880
I'm gonna go off off off track for just a

691
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.679
quick second, knowing that you enjoy a good ending that

692
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.079
has it really ended until like there's some kind of

693
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.559
realization if that's something that you dig I know, Off Mike,

694
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.719
we were talking about that limited series on Netflix called

695
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.480
His and Hers. Yes, the ending is gonna blow the

696
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.159
doors off your brain. Oh no, I'm just like I

697
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.280
was sitting there and I'm gonna be very careful by

698
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.440
saying this. I was like, I kind of figured this out,

699
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.440
and I was like, all right, happy.

700
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.079
Ending for everybody. Wait, why are we still going? And

701
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.519
then I was what, so, you know, quick plug for it.

702
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.039
There's nothing better than you think you're at the ending

703
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.159
and then you look and you're like, this still has

704
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:13.159
ten minutes left.

705
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.199
Yeah, quick, what is happening?

706
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.280
Quick? Little plug there for John Barnthall, who is awesome,

707
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.760
and Tesla Thompson, who is also awesome.

708
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.159
Check that out. Checked out. It's like six episodes. You

709
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:25.280
can watch it in like four hours.

710
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.239
Oh yeah, that's my my weekend chore. Uh.

711
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:30.239
My pivotal moment.

712
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.719
Robert debates Sir Lee Tbing about the Grail mythos.

713
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.199
So this is where I do.

714
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.639
Like that scene in the book because you get a

715
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.320
ton of information and a lot of really great arguments

716
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:44.760
on either side. I hate it in this.

717
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.599
Movie, but well it's funny because like it's it kind

718
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.880
of brings us into like, why, Okay, so this guy

719
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:56.039
t being is a Grail expert, he's a historian, he's

720
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:00.800
he's a longtime friend of Langdon okay, and Saria McKellen,

721
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.239
who again I feel maybe was miscasp is awesome in

722
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:10.639
this role right here, because I feel like it's immediate,

723
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.559
like you know that these guys are long time buddies

724
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.079
the way they're debating, because they don't hold back there,

725
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:20.599
they get a little savage at each other and then

726
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:21.639
they check each other.

727
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.039
Does now lay fair?

728
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.719
Yeah? Play fair? Yeah? Yeah? Funny. It's kind of like

729
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.079
this episode where you know, I.

730
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.360
Feel I feel like all of a sudden but the

731
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.840
idea that you know, and I love how he uses

732
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.599
the Da Vinci's the Last Supper painting to you know,

733
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.360
illustrate his the theory that Mary Magdalene was was present

734
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.159
and what was in fact Jesus wife, and the Grail

735
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.559
isn't a cup at all, it's actually a woman. When

736
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.119
they go through the whole symbology of it, and they

737
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.920
kind of really break by Brick explain this to Audrey

738
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.639
Tortou's character Sophie. Every time I get to that point,

739
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.159
and even when I read the book all those years ago,

740
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.159
all I wanted to do was just go research.

741
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.840
I want, I wanted more, Like I was excited.

742
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.599
This is the original icon for male. It's a rudimentary phallus.

743
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:24.760
Quite this is known as the blade. It represents aggression

744
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.440
in manhood. It's the symbol still used today in modern

745
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.400
military uniform.

746
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.519
Yes, the more penises you have, the high or rank.

747
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:32.400
Boys or big boys.

748
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.760
Now, as you would imagine the female symbol, this.

749
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.079
Is its exact opposite. This is called the.

750
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.239
Chalice, and the chattie resembles a cup or vessel, or

751
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:46.079
more importantly, the shape of a woman's womb.

752
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.559
Now, the grail has never been a cup.

753
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:56.920
It is quite literally, this ancient symbol of womanhood, and

754
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.239
in this case a woman.

755
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.119
I heard a secret so powerful that if revealed, it

756
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.079
would devastate the but if foundations of Christianity.

757
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.519
Wait, please, you're saying the Holy Grail is a person,

758
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:12.599
a woman.

759
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:14.199
Like I guess. I guess.

760
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.280
I'm saying it's a pivotal moment because it excited me

761
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.480
for Okay. Now I understand the magnitude of this adventure

762
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.199
and what's at stake, and I can't wait to see.

763
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.639
What happens next. That's for me. That's why it's the

764
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:28.280
pivotal moment.

765
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.679
I have to agree that it's a good one.

766
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.119
All right, all right, now we're now we're playing nice. Okay,

767
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.320
I like this. Let's run the numbers.

768
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.400
This was released on May nineteenth, two thousand and six.

769
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:43.800
It has a run time of one hundred and forty

770
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.960
nine minutes, unless you're watching the director's cut, which boasts

771
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.280
an additional twenty five minutes. Did you watch the director's cut,

772
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:51.639
by the way, or did you watch the original?

773
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:53.960
I think I must have watched the director's cut because

774
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.000
it was wicked long.

775
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.519
Okay, okay, I'm pretty I watched this on Paramount Plus.

776
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.320
I'm pretty sure I got the the theatrical cut. I

777
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.960
don't remember seeing anything, remember, yeah.

778
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:05.280
Yeah.

779
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.239
On a budget of one hundred and twenty five million,

780
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.400
it took a global haul of eight hundred one point

781
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.679
three million dollars. No surprise, as you know, they're ready

782
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.800
to go to town on no surprise, as they were

783
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.280
ready to get the camera rolling on angels and Demons

784
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.039
after that Amber. This one opened at number one in

785
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.760
its opening weekend, was the second highest grossing film of

786
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.559
two thousand and six. It also happens to be Ron

787
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.400
Howard's highest grossing film to date, beat out The How

788
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:37.760
They Grinch Tole Christmas.

789
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.079
Let's I have a little ranking here, will I don't

790
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:42.480
know where.

791
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.039
You're gonna land now, Oh God, after your hatred of

792
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.760
Robert Langdon, Amber, I want you to rank the following

793
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:54.760
five film professors based solely, based solely.

794
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:56.000
On their strength as an educator.

795
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.119
Oh okay, all right.

796
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.199
So this isn't a popularity contests. It's how good of

797
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.920
a how good of a teacher?

798
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:03.840
Are they?

799
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:04.119
Right?

800
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:05.320
Okay?

801
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:05.960
Play fair?

802
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.599
So here's here's here's here's here's the five I'm gonna

803
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.119
give you. And you put them in order of worst.

804
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.360
You put them in order from best to worst?

805
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:17.880
You know? Are you ready?

806
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:18.360
Okay?

807
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.719
So we've We've got Robert Langdon, who is a professor

808
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:27.079
of religious Symbology at Harvard University. We have Minerva McGonagall,

809
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:33.239
professor of Transfiguration, Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. We've

810
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:39.159
got John Keating, English Professor, Walton Academy, doctor Henry Jones,

811
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:45.519
Professor of Archaeology, Marshall College, and lastly Professor Plumb Direct,

812
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.880
Doctor of psychiatry, real name unknown. Who's who's the best

813
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.679
professor based solely on their academics, on their ability to

814
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.199
teach a classroom?

815
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.800
Tag this is it's a a little challenging.

816
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:02.800
I didn't want I didn't want to prep you for this.

817
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:04.400
I just want to do Hi.

818
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.599
I'm gonna say McGonagall is the best. Okay her, her

819
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:16.400
students are very successful in a very short period of time. Okay,

820
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.639
and she steps up and actually defends her students and

821
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.679
defends the school. Okay, So I think that's impressive. After her,

822
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.800
I would say, uh.

823
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.800
And listeners, if you everyone listened along? Because I thought

824
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:35.719
John Keating in there, and they're like Keith John Keating.

825
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.239
This is Robin William's character from Dead Poets Society.

826
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.519
Yes, and him next, Okay, good choice.

827
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.159
Because he changed the lives of every boy in that classroom.

828
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.159
Uh yep. And then I would put Professor Jones third,

829
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:59.039
just because his class looks incredibly difficult and incredibly boring.

830
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.000
He hasn't really his charisma does not show through in

831
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.639
his lecture.

832
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.920
I guarantee you're sitting in the front row and you're

833
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.360
writing love you on your eyelids.

834
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.920
Oh hell yeah, but you know it's okay, he's inspiring

835
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:15.239
me to be an archaeologist.

836
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.199
Okay, Henry Henry Jones in the third the third spot.

837
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.320
Yeah, and then I would put Langdon fourth, and then

838
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:31.199
Plumb is like a criminals last. He's like gets his

839
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.159
his doctor license revoked for crying out loud like thank

840
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.239
you Forgan's thank you.

841
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.000
For being a good sport. I just I cann't resist.

842
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.000
I was like academics, let's talk about professors.

843
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.360
Though, fictional professors.

844
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.920
Yeah, I had like, he's.

845
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:51.000
Going to be on this list besides doctor Jones.

846
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.599
Yeah, I had to. I had to throw a couple

847
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:54.960
of wild cards in there. So thank you.

848
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:56.119
It was good. I liked it.

849
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:00.239
Yeah, Amber, let's uh, let's wrap this one up. This

850
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:00.920
is a fun one.

851
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.599
I like that we changed this from the when we're

852
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.880
doing underrated movies and it's the you know, name three

853
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:11.920
movies that you would recommend. Now it's written by, directed by,

854
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:17.559
or starring which underrated Ron Howard project?

855
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.039
Would you suggest to somebody?

856
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.239
I am very very excited about this because I am

857
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.760
crazy for this movie. I love all of his eighties

858
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.960
and early nineties stuff. I mean, we all do. They

859
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.719
were all just in a row. He had like a

860
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.920
dozen bangers. But his most recent, one of his most

861
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.440
recent is Thirteen Lives.

862
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.760
Okay, I haven't seen this one yet, oh, Jeff, Like

863
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.559
this is based off the true story, right, yes, it

864
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:47.880
is South America.

865
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.280
Yeah, the true story of the boys that got trapped

866
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:58.679
in a cave and the rescue attempt that was made,

867
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:04.320
and it, Jeff, it's so good that I kind of

868
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:09.039
was confused, and I thought, is this a documentary? Like, okay,

869
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.880
because he uses the real people, the real kids, the

870
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:13.880
real villagers.

871
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.360
Wait, they're like acting in it or guess what?

872
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.400
Yes, And then so like you're like locked into the

873
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.159
story and then Vigo Mortensen shows up and you're like,

874
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.599
that is that Vigo? What is going on? I thought

875
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.119
this was a documentary. And you know that he takes

876
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.079
you through the rest of the film because he's the

877
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:41.559
crew that rescues them. And I mean, the tension, the heroism,

878
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.559
this story is amazing and this movie is edge of

879
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:47.440
your seat.

880
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.360
I commend you because when you're picking a Ron Howard

881
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.039
project and and you're and your challenge by saying an

882
00:45:56.119 --> 00:46:00.599
underrated one that is not an easy task. Right to

883
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.280
your point. I remember when the real situation happened, and

884
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.280
then shortly after I remember Ron Howard to direct a

885
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.760
film based on blah blah blah, and.

886
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:13.760
Then I just feel and then that's the last I

887
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.920
heard of it. And then it just like.

888
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.840
Pupped up on Amazon Prime and I was like yeah,

889
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.679
and I honestly thought it was a documentary, and so

890
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.519
I was like, Okay, well I'll watch that because I didn't.

891
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:28.440
Really it's hard to understand when you can't visualize like

892
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.880
why they were stuck and why it was so difficult

893
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.280
to get them out. And this film does such a

894
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:41.440
great job of illustrating that for you, and I just

895
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.360
can't say enough about it. Everybody needs to go see

896
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.320
this movie.

897
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.880
I'm going to give you one that you haven't seen.

898
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:53.400
Oh you think I felt, I'll be shocked if you're like,

899
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.920
of course I've seen it. I'm going to go with

900
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:00.800
a starring starring credit because he was a pretty pretty

901
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:01.280
big actor.

902
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.119
He was a one of them. Yeah, he was a

903
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:04.960
child actor for the longest.

904
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.280
Time, right, Yes, absolutely.

905
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.239
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you the title, And when

906
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.039
I say it, I absolutely know three people that are

907
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.599
gonna hear this title. They're gonna laugh to themselves and

908
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.440
be like, yep, absolutely, But I don't know about anybody else.

909
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:28.159
I'm talking about nineteen sixty five's Village of the Giants. Now, yeaes,

910
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.320
hold on, let me tell you what it's all about.

911
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.599
Delinquent teenagers ingest a substance and grow thirty feet tall,

912
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.880
then proceed to take over their small hometown.

913
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.199
And it's it's nine.

914
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.079
Year old Howard, who is going by Ronnie Howard at

915
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:47.480
the time.

916
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:49.480
He plays a young boy.

917
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.519
Named Genius who kinda he kind of he's kind of

918
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:56.199
figuring things out in the movie. Now, before you go

919
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.400
look at it up and try to find it, I gotta,

920
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.000
I gotta, I gotta put this to you.

921
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.039
I implore you.

922
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.679
The only way to watch it is the version scene

923
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.519
on Mystery Science Theater three thousand.

924
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.559
You will not be disappointed at all.

925
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:17.800
It's so awesome, Oh my god, because of MST three K.

926
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.159
I was gonna say it's on two B, but I'll

927
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.039
have to find it through MST three K.

928
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:22.760
Try.

929
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.039
I mean, it's it's this really kooky sixties surf movie.

930
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.039
But if you can see the version from MST three K,

931
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.039
you will laugh your ass off.

932
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.599
It's so good, so awesome. Yeah, try to fight. You

933
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:38.400
said it's on two B.

934
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:40.280
Yeah. I just looked at it.

935
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.039
Oh wow, okay, okay, maybe maybe I don't know, maybe

936
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.760
the other versions Now that you.

937
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.960
Said that it's on MST three K, like, that's definitely

938
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:49.400
the way to.

939
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:50.880
Get I'll tell you.

940
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.760
It was the I had never seen Mystery Science Theater

941
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.239
three thousand and actually like, gosh, this is maybe. When

942
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.559
at first the show first started, me and Brad Brad Kozo,

943
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:07.079
we were just flipping through channels board we found it

944
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.280
and I was like, what's going on.

945
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.360
It looks like we're watching people watch a movie.

946
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:16.360
And then the characters start riffing and we sat there

947
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:17.239
and laughed like idiots.

948
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.039
Oh god, Yeah, it's so good.

949
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:20.480
It's so good. Check it out.

950
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.199
As far as other things to check out, the Divinci

951
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.239
Code is currently streaming on Paramount Plus, Peacock Prime, YouTube TV,

952
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.960
and Roku Channel if you're If you don't happen to

953
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.639
be subscribing to any of those streaming channels, you can

954
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.320
rent it on most platforms, and I for.

955
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.920
One think you should. Like I said, it's fun popcorn movie.

956
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.679
I think it will intrigue you to dig into some

957
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.960
of the history depicted in the film, discover some of

958
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:52.320
your own answers. Amber I uh thoughts for it.

959
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.360
Nothing that happens in this movie proves anything.

960
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.400
Well, that's fair, that's you know, it's I will debate that,

961
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.239
like the whole thing.

962
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.320
We don't want to we don't wanna, we don't want

963
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:08.039
to ruin the inning.

964
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.840
But you know, there's it's one of those like, hey, well,

965
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:13.800
I like how Langdon puts it, you know when when

966
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:14.800
he's talking to Sophie.

967
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.280
You know, it's it's not about what you know. I

968
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.599
think it's about what how about how you feel? It's

969
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:21.800
about what you think?

970
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.840
And uh, it doesn't matter.

971
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.599
You don't think Sophie goes on to do great things.

972
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.920
I mean she does, like for being a good person,

973
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.400
like okay, it has nothing to do with her supposed lineage,

974
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.559
which there's no way to prove.

975
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:42.679
Yeah, but that's that's the that's the fun of the movie.

976
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:48.079
I don't know, I'm much happier watching Indian e Jines

977
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.039
in the last persade.

978
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.760
Okay, well you'll do you at least recommend the book.

979
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.000
Well, the book is terrible, but it is like a

980
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.599
fun page turner, Like he.

981
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.679
Is a New York Times bestseller for like.

982
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.840
Does that mean anything that's based on sales, But it's

983
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.000
he does this thing where he's got short chapters and

984
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.519
he ends every chapter on a cliffhanger that just drags

985
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.679
you through the story, so you don't really notice how

986
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.800
poorly written it is because you're having fun with these

987
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.079
clues and it just pulls you right along. So yeah,

988
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.639
it'll take you like a weekend to read it. It's short,

989
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.559
you know, dive in, have fun and then you know,

990
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.679
have fun googling like the Fibonacci sequence and and the

991
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.079
Trivian man and stuff like that. Stuff interesting.

992
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.000
Thank you for listening to the wreckage that is the

993
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:41.440
DaVinci Code with Amber Lewis, the voice.

994
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:42.000
Of reason.

995
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:48.159
Brutality to argue with people.

996
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:50.159
Yes you are.

997
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:55.280
Next time on a film by Amber's taking the week off,

998
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:00.880
we'll be talking about We'll be talking about Howard's two

999
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.840
thousand and one biopic A Beautiful Mind.

1000
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.159
If you've seen it, how would you summarize it in

1001
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:09.360
five words?

1002
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.320
You can go to a film by podcast dot com

1003
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.639
to give us your answer. You can email us at

1004
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.800
a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com. If we

1005
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.280
use your five words synopsis on the show, we will

1006
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.000
shout you out on the episode and.

1007
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:23.719
We'll give you some of a film By swag.

1008
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.360
Maybe we'll throw it like a T shirt, some stickers, something,

1009
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.239
We'll get you something. Please join us on social media.

1010
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.840
You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook.

1011
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:34.800
And x.

1012
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.519
We love interacting with you sharing opinions. Again, Amber versus

1013
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:46.760
Wayne was awesome taking your requests for future episodes and

1014
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:54.559
debating great movies. Amber, I will thank you for a very.

1015
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.840
Animated discussion. Yeah, very spirited discussion this time.

1016
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.280
You know what, Listen, it's fun when an episode starts

1017
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:04.920
off and it's not like I love this movie because

1018
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.679
well I love it because you came out swinging. You

1019
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:10.280
probably should have been on You probably should have been

1020
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:12.159
on the Rocky bow Boy episode with the right hooks

1021
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:13.000
you've been throwing.

1022
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.920
At Robert Langdon. But I digress.

1023
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.199
I know we Like I said, this is our Ron

1024
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.159
Howard in the Redemption of Royal and Rocky month here

1025
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.920
on a film buy Amber.

1026
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.039
Can our listeners can they hear you anywhere else? You

1027
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:30.039
do anything else?

1028
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.719
Over any any freelance work over on docu based seventy seven.

1029
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:35.119
This month, I.

1030
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.800
Am it is sci Fi Month over on DOCKU based

1031
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.800
seventy seven. So we just did two thousand and one

1032
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:46.480
of Space Odyssey, and coming up, I will be on

1033
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.440
the Flash Gordon episode.

1034
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.960
Flash Quarter Quarterback New York Jets.

1035
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:59.599
Yes, Gordon's alive, Flash Gordon, Baby, don't don't, don't, don't don't.

1036
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.039
Okay, I'm gonna go go watch my gonna go watch

1037
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.320
my Blu Ray Collector's edition of that when we get

1038
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.559
I'll tay you if I could just shout out to

1039
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:12.039
docum Base seventy seven.

1040
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.519
One thing they do great every year.

1041
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.719
It seems like I don't know, I guess because I've

1042
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:24.000
been listening since the beginning. Obviously, Dayton Johnson got to

1043
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.320
start here on a film buy and I know, I

1044
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.639
guess it's been a couple of seasons ago when this

1045
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.000
this January, this sci Fi month long thing happened in January,

1046
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:39.039
and it is awesome every single year. So I cannot

1047
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:42.400
wait to listen to Flash Gordon. So thank you for that,

1048
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.480
and uh and to all of you listening to our

1049
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:50.199
show following us on social media subscribing to our Patreon,

1050
00:54:50.880 --> 00:55:00.679
We thank you on his proclivity to make films about

1051
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.840
real life Americans and events. Ron had this to say,

1052
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:15.039
there is something inherently tough about ambericants. Ambericants, Christ, let

1053
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:15.920
me do that one again.