Nov. 17, 2025

Ryan Coogler - Fruitvale Station

Ryan Coogler - Fruitvale Station
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Season 6 A Film By...

With Michael B. Jordan's amazing performance in Sinners still fresh on our mind, we look back at his critically acclaimed performance in Ryan Coogler's Fruitvale Station.

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It's just a few more days until Black Panther Wakanda

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Forever arrives in theaters. How excited are you for that?

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I am super excited to see this movie. Seeing that trailer,

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I cannot wait.

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One of the best trailers I think the MCU has

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ever given us.

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Right, absolutely it is.

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When I played that trailer over and over, probably ten

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times because it was so powerful.

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Very powerful. Speaking of powerful, let's talk about a film

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by Ryan Coogler today, his twenty thirteen biographical drama Fruitville Station.

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Hello everybody, and welcome back to a film by podcast.

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My co host Brad Kozo has the week off and

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graciously filling in for him once again. David Burns. Hello, Dave.

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Hello, it's great to be back again.

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It is always great to have you. I know, I

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know the listeners love the Dave Burns episodes, and I'm

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sure they'll be happy with what we got coming up

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next season with with a lot more Dave Burns.

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But that's right.

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But before we get there, let's uh, let's let's get

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to Coogler. Uh to it. Fruitville Station.

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Wow.

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What a powerful movie.

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Extremely powerful movie.

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You know, I'm embarrassed to say this, but I didn't

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know anything about this film.

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I had never seen this film.

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So when you you asked me to be on the

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podcast for this, you know, when I pulled it up

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and you know, I didn't watch the trailer. I just

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decided just to go in cold and and watch the movie.

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And I'm like, WHOA, what a great movie.

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I will share that embarrassment. I had not seen this.

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This is this is Ryan Coogler's directorial debut, YEP, and

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just getting excited for Black Panther, What kind of forever?

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I I you know, I thought, wait, what what did he?

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You know, he just showed up like all of a sudden.

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He's a filmmaker out of nowhere, but everyone has a beginning.

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What what? What was his first film? And like you

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I I saw Fruitville Station. I was like, okay, what's

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that about? You know Michael Michael B. Jordan and I'm

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a big fan. I've talked about him before on the podcast.

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Love his work. So I was like, let's let's let's

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talk about this one now, Dave. Before we get into this.

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You know, there's probably other people that haven't seen it. Yeah,

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I feel like we can't do this story justice. We

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can't do this film Justice without talking about it in detail.

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So obviously you know it's twenty thirteen when this comes out.

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It is. It is based on a true story. So

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if you haven't seen this movie, if you haven't, if

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you don't know what it's about, and you want to

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go in, you know you don't want us to spoil

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the movie for it. I would. I'd tell you hit

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pause on this episode and go check it out and

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then come back to us, because we got to talk

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about it in detail, right, Dave?

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Yeah, I mean I completely agree with you.

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I'm glad I went to this into this film cold

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because I'm knowing nothing about it, because it made it

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even more powerful to me. So yes, please put this

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on pause if you've not listened to it or not

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seen it, and go watch it please.

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Okay? Well, Dave, for those that don't want to, that

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don't mind the spoilers, can you give us a quick

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synopsis of Fruitville Station Sure.

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This is the true story of Oscar Grant played by

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Michael B. Jordan, who is winding his way through a

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normal day of life, taking his daughter to school, dropping

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his girlfriend off at work, and preparing to celebrate not

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only the coming of a new year, but also his

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mother's birthday. He has struggled for some time, and recently

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losing his job, is trying to find a new path

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for himself while avoiding going down the same one as before.

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He is a man who has a great heart, who

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cares about people who crossed his path. Where there's at

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a grocery store or a dog wandering alone, he deeply cares.

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He is unsure of where things are going, but one

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horrifying night fruitflle station will change everything forever.

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Fantastic, Dave, thank you for that. Yeah, I couldn't believe

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I went in this. I didn't watch the trailer. I

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didn't know. I didn't know about Oscar Grant, the Oscar Grant,

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And you know, all I knew was Ryan Coogler's directory

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at W and the poster with Michael B. Jordan just

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you know, a profile shot.

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You know, not not to jump up. But after seeing

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this movie, I can see why Google have became so

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popular so fast, because this this movie just blew me away,

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you know, I mean, I just it was just phenomenal

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performances across the board, directed extremely well, just just put

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together as a great I believe it was an independent

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film you know, I just cannot speak highly enough of

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this film.

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Yeah, listeners, I'll tell you right now if you have

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not seen this, and again jumping ahead, it's on Amazon

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Prime right now, so Prime listeners, you've got access to it.

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I know it's a lot on a lot of the

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other streaming platforms to rent for like two three ninety nine,

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which is worth it. I feel it's a musty movie.

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It is, which is why I'm so embarrassed I've never

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seen it before. After seeing it, is like, everybody needs

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to watch this film.

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Well, you know, that's the thing that I mean, that's

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one of the reasons why we we kind of went

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with the format that we do on this on this

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on this show, you know, we're looking for those those

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underrated movies from from great directors, and sometimes they get

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by you, you know they do. Yeah, you know Coogler,

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Ryan Kugler, everyone just you automatically like, I love Ryan Cougler,

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I love everything he's done. But then you have to

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ask yourself, have you seen everything he's done? Right? And

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that's when we find Fruitvale Station, you know. So I'm

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glad for the opportunity to talk about it.

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Honestly, I am too it's it's one of those things that,

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like you you go along, you see all these movies

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because we watch a lot of movies, that's what we do.

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But you know, you find that one film that you

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don't know anything about, it just comes out of nowhere

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for you and it's just like that that that sweet

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candy that you find in the store. Man, You're like, wow,

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what if phenomenal experience in watching in that and that

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is exactly what this movie is.

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Well, I want to get into the cast a little bit. Uh.

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I've been a fan of Michael B. Jordan since the

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days of Friday Night Lights. I don't know if you know,

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ye oh yeah, I do his character on that. Always

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been a fan of him. So when he when he

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hit the movie screen with with Black Panther and Creed,

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I'm like, yes, I'm glad to see this guy is

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doing great. He's doing great movies. So for me, the

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real treat here was seeing a Michael B. Jordan film

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that I had never seen and seeing a great performance.

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He's he's amazing in this.

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He he's like Denzel Washington And I'm gonna say it now,

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I think he's the next Denzel Washington. He agree he

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can melt into a performance and because he's so natural

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that you forget who you're watching. He's phenomenal, and he

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really proves it in this movie.

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His performance in this movie go. I mean, there are

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moments where his sweetness is on full display. He's so tender,

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and then there's moments where he is fearsome, you know, uh,

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not one to mess around with, and and you know

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very you know, and I'm not talking about violence. I'm

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just talking about this aggressive vibe that he can give

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off immediately, and it's in a protector's role, not exactly

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instigator's role.

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Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say. I said,

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you know, he's not doing that to lose his temper

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really quick, because just to lose his temper, he cares

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about his family, his daughter, you know, his i'm guessing girlfriend,

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soon to be fiance, soon to be wife.

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You know, he's protecting them.

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So that's why he loses his temper a little bit,

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because he realizes he's got to bring in some money.

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Yeah, and it doesn't really matter if he's whether he's

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talking with his fiance Sophina, or his daughter Tatiana, even

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his mother Wanda. He just has this self assurance where

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you know he's gonna take care of you. If he

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says it's good, if he says it's gonna be okay,

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it's gonna be okay. And the way he handles that,

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that that pressure and that stress, it's it's masterful. It's

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just it's it's it's amazing.

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It is and it speaks to the character the performance

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that he pulls off when he you know, the Katie

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at the grocery store, you know, when oh, yeah, looking,

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she's looking at the fish and she's trying to figure

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out what She's never had a fish fry before, but

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she wants to impress her boyfriend, you know, and she's

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struggling to figure it out, and he literally calls his grandma.

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It has Katie talked to her on the phone to

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pick the right fish.

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Yeah, just put it a call to Grandma Bonnie. She'll

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she'll take you, She'll take you through the steps. We'll

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get to that scene. And I want to talk about

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that scene. Yeah, but later on, how about how about

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Melanie Diaz playing Sofia Dave. I haven't seen her in

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anything else, but uh, very very fine performance that that

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Diaz gives off.

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Yeah, I think she does some TV work, but I've

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never I've never seen this actress before, but yeah, I

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think she did a fantastic job as the girlfriend of Oscar.

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Yeah, I mean I believe. I believe their the relationship,

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you know, because it's not it's not just uh you

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know it it opened this this movie opens up, you know,

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with the voiceovers that they have about their new the

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New Year's Resolutions, which like a very cold opening. Loved

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very cold opening. Love loved how they did that, but

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also you see like their struggles of of what the relationship,

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what the relationship is all about, because you know, I mean,

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let's let's face it, Oscar is you know, we root

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for him to this whole movie, and we loved the character.

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But he's a flawed individual, you know. I mean he

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he has lied about his his job, he has been

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you know, there's been some infidelity, you know. And and

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to see those those those conversations happened between uh Jordan

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and Diaz, I mean, it's it's fantastic because it looks

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it almost like it almost plays out like a documentary,

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like you're watching real people talk about their their life.

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The performances were just so natural and the chemistry was

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there between them. I mean, chemistry was there for everybody

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in this film. But yeah, I mean you're right, it

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felt like we were watching a documentary just in a

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few moments of the lives of these two people.

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You really did absolutely. Yeah. Now, one one performance that

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just just blew the doors off this thing. I mean,

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you want to talk about gravitas. You are talking about

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Octavia Spencer playing his mother Wanda.

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Yeah.

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Wow, she's great in everything she does, and she's been

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in a lot of stuff. She even does a lot

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of voice acting and stuff like that too. But yes,

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what a great actress to play the mother of after

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a great actress.

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Just the scenes where I mean, whether it's the the

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visits you know that we we have, we have a

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flashback where he's he's in San Quentin, yep, and she's

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going to visit him. That scene where she is, where

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she is the calming presence.

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I love that, the the tough love that she had

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to show there. Yeah, man, I tell you, I mean

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I was just like on the edge of my seat

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with her performance there because you could just see in

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her facial reactions, her eyes that she just had to

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go be you know, strict with him, this is it,

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I'm not coming to visit you anymore, you know, basically

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telling him you got to get your life straight.

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Yeah. Well she's not buying into his bs at that point, right, yep.

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And she's had it, and she she wants she expects more,

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you know, she she expects more from her son. This

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at the end of this movie. Her performance with the doctors.

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way she the way she takes control of the family

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and the friends that are in that hospital.

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you know what, no, no, we're not going to do this. Yeah,

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you know, calm down. You know, we're gonna pray about this.

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We're gonna we're gonna talk about this, you know, and

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we're gonna get through this.

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Yeah. Tavia Spencer just one of the most amazing performances

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I've seen from an actress in a long time. Ye

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and uh, I'm kind of surprised, like there's no nomination

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for her for this movie. Like, what what's the Academy doing.

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In twenty thirteen not watching this? Apparently?

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I guess I have no idea, but I do want

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to make a note here about you know, not Octavia Spencer,

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but the character of Wanda. I don't know if you

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know this, Jeff, but the real mom of Grant, Wanda Johnson.

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She makes a small cameo appearance in the film. Oh

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you didn't she No, she plays missus Stacy at Tatiana's preschool.

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Oh okay, the the preschool teacher. Yeah.

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I thought that was really neat that they did that.

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I love it.

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I loving her me too, man, I mean, you're you're

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you're showing so much respect by doing that, and I

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love it.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, I know, I know Ryan Coogler

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obviously to to bring this to the screen. You know,

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his first step was was contacting the family, the family's attorney,

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and wanted to share Oscar story. Yep, you know which.

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I think they do an amazing job of doing. But

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I always love when when when when real individuals that

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are part of the story, when they take the opportunity

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to participate in whatever regard. And you know, I mean,

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it's a small scene at the preschool, but uh, fantastic.

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I'm I'm I'm just glad to know that she was

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part of it.

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So yeah, me too.

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Yeah, uh and back to back to Octavia Spencer. My

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understanding is this movie loses money BIDWI through production and

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Octavia Spencer forgoes her her salary and works to to

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to raise money to keep it going.

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Yep, I mean she did.

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What an amazing woman. I mean, she's she's incredible.

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When when you when you when you're part of a

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project like this, you really realize the importance of that project.

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You see what it's going to do, the story it's

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going to tell, and the people that it's going to influence.

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So I am proud of some people who do that.

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You know, put put aside of the finances that you

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could potentially make, and you know, work your butt off

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to make sure the money is there to get that

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project done so that the world can see it.

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I thought that's amazing.

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Yeah, Well, before this turns into the Octavia Spencer hour,

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I'll move on because you know, one other, one other

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person I want to point out uh Arianna Neil, who

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plays Tatiana, the daughter. This girl, this little girl is

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one of the most adorable little girls I've ever seen.

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Is just what I mean, what a smart and what

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a smart actress I mean to play you know, because

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there's a couple of times she has to play scared

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and upset and a couple of times she gets to

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have fun and she is She's incredible, right.

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Yeah, the part was she asks for the extra fruit

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snack and Sophinas like no, and then it gets snuck

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to her by Oscar loved that.

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Yeah, that scene is great because you know, look, moms

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have got to be moms, and you know you don't

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you don't need extra fruit snacks in your lunch bag.

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But but the fact that they they're able to establish

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that Tatiana is a daddy's girl, just in that moment

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where he he's like sneaks the snack to her. You know,

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don't tell mom. You know, even when you know at

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the day when he when he picks her up, the

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whole the race, you know, she's she's playing tag and

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no one can catch her, and you know he's just

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flat out burns her. Yeah, you know I'm number one dad,

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Dad still undefeated. Yeah, I just I love that moment.

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You know, it's it's so funny that you talk about

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that scene because you know, I made a note here

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to talk about that. You know, when he goes to

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pick her up, you have that slow, atmospheric, steady cam

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shot where he's.

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Going through the school mm hmm.

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And you know, and he goes to out the back

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door and goes out to get her because they're playing

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in the back you know, the backyard there. I guess

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you could say where the playground or whatever. And you know,

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he goes and gets her and then you're right, you know,

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they have that race to get back to the car.

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I love that scene so much. That's probably my favorite

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scene of the whole movie.

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Okay, okay, yeah, I mean there's a couple of really

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great scenes in this you know, not not one of

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my favorite scenes, but because it's got Tatiana and I

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want to talk about real quick, because we're talking about

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that whole Daddy's girl vibe that the movie gives you

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the teeth brushing scene, you know, you know, I mean

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just just those those those cute looks that she's making

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in the mirror, you know, like the the silly faces

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that she's doing, you know, and then and then her

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kind of looking after him like, hey dad, you had

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dinner too, Like he's you know, he's like, yeah, you

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do want to go to Bad Bad Breath, And you know,

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so he's she makes him wash his you know, brush

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his teeth with his finger. Yeah, I just those are

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just those are just heartfelt moments that you know, happened

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in and and homes across America. Scenes like that make

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this movie so great, but also help like at the

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end of this movie when you're hit with a ton

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of bricks, when the emotions come Yep, it seems like

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that that you have just been slowly watching and building

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up that make it all the more tragic.

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I think because and I hand that to you know,

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Kogler for the writing and the directing of this of

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being able to pull that off, because it's not just

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the performance of the actors, but it's his directing style.

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It's his camera work that helps pull you into that too,

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because the ones the other scene, you know, that really

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does an incredible job with it because you know, we.

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All have families.

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We've all had experiences where we've got together for New Year's,

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for Christmas, whatever holiday it is, you know, to hang

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out with your family, to have that banter, to talk

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to laugh, to cry to whatever it is. But the

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scene where he goes to his mom's birthday party, you

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have all of those close up shots those interactions between

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you know, first the ladies in the kitchen where they're

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you know, they're trying to finish up it. He's got

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like the glory shots and you really close up shots.

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We will go from one face to another face and

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then you know, the camera moves around a little bit

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because he has a lot of hand to hand camera

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work in this movie. And it works so well because

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it pulls you in as an audience. It makes you

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feel like you are there, like that documentary style directing

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and that Neede. You feel like you were part of

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that family. It made you feel like you should you

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care about Oster and what happens in the movie. I

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thought that was incredible, So yeah, you were absolutely right

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about that.

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Yeah, the handheld filming from time to time. Uh, it

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absolutely works, especially at at Wanda's birthday party because that

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house is so small, yep, and it's packed with family

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and it's packed with love, and it makes you feel

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like you're Yeah, you're at you're at a Christmas party,

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you're at your at your aunt or uncles, or you're

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at a family reunion where you're bumping your shoulder to

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shoulder people. You know, dinner table, most most most tables

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have four seats, you know, some some six, So you know,

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places like that, you know, situations like that, you know

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people you know, plates are in laps and you're you're

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just trying to find a spot to sit and you know,

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and just talk and be part of the part of

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the the conversation.

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Yeah, and we already talked about that chemistry between the actors,

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but it's all of them. You can you can believe

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that is an actual family right there with those actors.

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You absolutely can. Uh, just I don't know, I just

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I can't say enough great things about the performance the

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performances in this film, truly, truly I must see, uh

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you know, even is it Anna O'Reilly who plays Katie.

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You mentioned the supermarket scene with the the girl that

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didn't know how to prepare for a fish fry. That

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that's uh, you know, I want to talk about that

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when we get to you know, we'll talk about likes

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and this, you know, dislikes obviously certain scenes. I want

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to talk about that scene there. But I mean, great

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character and just sad that you know, it's that character

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and that interaction at the supermarket that ultimately seals his fate,

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you know, him just doing the right thing. Him being

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a good person seals his fate. So Dave, let's get

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let's get a little into the making of this film.

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We know it's based on a true story. What'd you

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find out?

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So fruitful?

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Station was actually shot in Oakland, California for twenty days,

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and I cannot comprehend it only took twenty days to

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make this movie. But when you got professional together, I

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guess you can pull it off. The scenes were actually

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shot at and around the day Area rapid Transfer platform

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where Grant was actually killed, which I think I cannot imagine,

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And I'm going to talk about a quote here in

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a little while that we get from Coogler about that,

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but I just can imagine being in the actual spot

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where this happened. But anyway, most of the platform scenes

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were shot over the course of two nights, with another

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night dedicated to the sequences on the train that led

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up to the police confrontation. And San Quentin State Prison

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even was actually served as the filming location, and they

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used prisoners.

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Which I thought was kind of unique as ex but hey,

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when you got them, why not use them?

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Right?

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Dangerous but effective.

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Yeah, But the scene where Oscar Grant is shot was

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filmed at the actual spot. The original bullet hole is

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still there where Michael B Jordan was lying. Can you

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imagine that.

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Yet, that had to be a very difficult scene to shoot.

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I would have to imagine for both, both for Michael

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B Jordan, both for Ryan, for Ryan Coogler, for anyone involved,

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that that had to just be a tough day on set.

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I would think it was, you know, and you know,

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I've got a couple of quotes that we'll talk about

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a little bit later that he actually refers to that,

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but we'll get to that. The film had a nine

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hundred thousand dollar budget and when it grows little over

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seventeen million worldwide. So I don't know about you, but

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that's a pretty successful film.

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That is very successful. I know, uh yeah, nine hundred thousand.

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I think they after after the film festival circuit, they

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sold it for two and a half million, and then

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it goes on to make seventeen million. I mean, that's

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that's amazing and.

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Really opened the door for Coogler.

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Yeah, directorial debut for Ryan Kugler. Talk about just knocking it.

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Out of the park, something that powerful.

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Wow, Yeah, grand slam, knocking out of the Park whatever

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you would call it. Man Coogler did it. Yeah, this

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film absolutely, But you did. You didn't mention earlier about

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a couple notable producers for this. One of them was

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Forced Whitaker and the other one was, as you mentioned,

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Octavia Spencer, So I think it was really neat that

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we get those names too.

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All right, Well, we've talked about a couple scenes that

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really stand out for us. You you mentioned, you know,

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you you were kind of talking about your what you

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thought was maybe your favorite scenes. Do you want to

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you want to elaborate?

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So, I mean one of the favorites that you know

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I just mentioned earlier was their relationship between the father

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and the daughter, you know, at that the preschool. There's

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just so much to like about this movie. You can

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find any kind of scenes in here that you're just

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gonna fall in love with and just realize what it adds,

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and not only to the character of Oscar, but what

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it adds to the story itself. There's just there's just

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so much to pick from. I could talk all day

471
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:25.119
about this movie for crying out loud, But you know,

472
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.359
the close up shots that I think is my favorite

473
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.400
with the whole family, you know, you're getting that chemistry,

474
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.680
you're getting that experience of of what that family's like,

475
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.319
how close they are with one another. But to me,

476
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.440
the one scene that added so much character to Oscar

477
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.839
was the dog. When he stopped to get the guests

478
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.440
to get to get you know, fuel up his car,

479
00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.960
he noticed the dog that was just wandering around by

480
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.000
by himself. So he goes over and pets the dog,

481
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:53.839
looking around to see where the owner's at, you know,

482
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:55.960
because this dog is wondering around, where traffic is at

483
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:57.960
and those kinds of things, you know, And so you know,

484
00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.519
he pets it and then realized at first your thought

485
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:01.559
he was gonna take the dog, Oh yeah, the way

486
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.880
he was looking around. But then you know, he goes

487
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:05.640
back to the car, finishes up, and then you lose

488
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.079
track of where the dog is at, and then all

489
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:08.559
of a sudden, you hear the brakes of the car,

490
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:10.240
you hear the whine of the dog, and you know

491
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.359
what happened. Yeah, So he runs back to the road,

492
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:15.920
yelling at the driver as the driver's taking off, showing

493
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:17.960
how much he cared for a dog that he just met,

494
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:20.880
you know. So then he gets down, you know, just

495
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:22.759
looks at the dog and tries to comfort it because

496
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.640
you know it's obviously dying, you know, and he pulls

497
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.200
it off the side of the road and just it

498
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:30.640
just breaks your heart. But it just shows you how

499
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.480
much character Oscar has just right there in that one scene.

500
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.880
To me, you know, that was just a powerful, powerful

501
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.480
scene and I loved it very much.

502
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.359
There is that scene. What makes that scene amazing is

503
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:46.160
it goes in entirely different direction that you're that you're

504
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.440
that you're not prepared for, because, like you I was like,

505
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.759
oh wait, he's he's looking around, you know, dog doesn't

506
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.359
have a collar, right, Tatiana is about to get a

507
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.279
new a new pet. You know, this is you know,

508
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.400
and and I'm already in my head, I'm kind of chuckling.

509
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.160
I'm thinking, I can't wait hear the conversation between him

510
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.279
and Sofena about how are they gonna where's the dog

511
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:04.680
gonna be and how they're gonna feed it and all

512
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.359
this kind of stuff and just the just the tragic

513
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:15.440
ending for this this poor animal and just how he reacts. Yeah,

514
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.519
just it's a gut riching moment, you know, just to

515
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.440
see anytime you see an animal, you know, suffering it's

516
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.640
going to be hard to watch, but again, it speaks

517
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.359
volumes to what what kind of character that this this

518
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.160
individual has it does? You know? I want to talk

519
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.039
about one of my favorite scenes, which we kind of

520
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.720
we kind of you know, touched on, is the supermarket

521
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:44.200
scene because you know, early on, you know he's heading

522
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.960
into work. You know, we we understand, you know, he's

523
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.759
lost his job, we know that, but his family doesn't

524
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.720
know this at this point, and he's just there to

525
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.480
try and get his job back, you know, just to

526
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.119
try and work with the boss. But his buddy is

527
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.759
working behind the fish can her and that's where Katie,

528
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.640
the character Katie comes into play, and she's she's getting

529
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.079
ready for a fish fry. She doesn't know what to buy,

530
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.359
she doesn't know how to make it. And this is

531
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.440
the this is the moment where I start rooting for

532
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.039
this character. Oscar's character in a big way because we

533
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.319
just had had the argument between him and Sophena about

534
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.759
his infidelity and how you know, is he calling that

535
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.359
girl still? So you're like, okay, well is he a

536
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.920
good guy or is he not a good guy? And

537
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:30.880
you really don't know how to feel about him. And

538
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.960
then when he starts kind of interacting with Katie. You're like,

539
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.720
here we go again. You're like, okay, so come on, dude,

540
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.319
are you are you really? Are you really that guy?

541
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.640
But then you find out, oh no, he's not. He

542
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.880
is a genuinely caring individual because you know, he's just

543
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.920
he's just trying to help out a fellow stranger. To

544
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:52.480
the point, like you said, he you know, he calls

545
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.880
his grandma, Grandma Bonnie, and then he even puts Grandma

546
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.880
Bonnie on the phone with this stranger, you know.

547
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.279
Has to ask what's her name again?

548
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.720
Yeah, yeah, what what's what's her name? And he does

549
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.680
Grandma Bonnie. She's like, hi, Grandma Bonnie. You know, and

550
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.680
I'm telling you right now. Uh Marjorie Crump shears, who

551
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.960
plays Grandma Bonnie. That's everyone's grandma in America.

552
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:15.559
Everyone.

553
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.559
She is awesome in this movie. And I love the

554
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.720
fact that, you know, she's like, this girl don't know

555
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.960
what the boss, you don't know how to what she's making.

556
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:25.279
Put this girl on the phone. Put this girl on

557
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.839
the phone right now. So I just love that. But yeah,

558
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.880
he just hands his cell phone and then goes walking

559
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.440
down the aisle to talk to his boss. About job. Yeah,

560
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.119
and again that's where he kind of he shows us

561
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.440
a little bit of that that that that darker style,

562
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.759
that ugly side, you know, where he's you know, it's

563
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.599
not that he's threatening his boss, but he's he's letting

564
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.440
his boss know like, you know, here's my options. You know,

565
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.519
I can work here, you know, even at even at

566
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.680
half pay if that's what it takes. Or I can

567
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.240
hit the streets and you know, start selling drugs and

568
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.079
you know, because no matter what, he's going to provide

569
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.119
for his family, right And it's one of those uh,

570
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:05.880
it's it's one of those hard moments where you're like,

571
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.640
you know, you don't want you know, you wanted to

572
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.799
have this, this this crummy job, but you know it's

573
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.319
not gonna work out. And then you you immediately start thinking, Okay,

574
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.279
is this gonna be the downfall the character? And again

575
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.480
it's not. Wait, let's talk about the other scene at

576
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.839
the at the beach, you know, because that redemptive moment, right.

577
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.599
Yep, it absolutely is you know where you think that

578
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.920
he's going to get back into drug dealing, you know,

579
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.200
and but he actually you know, he has this bag

580
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.480
of pot that he kept in his house and but

581
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:36.559
you think what he's going to happen is he's gonna

582
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.559
you know, get back into that. But then he gets

583
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.240
rid of that, sells it to make money. But he's

584
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.000
with his friend who thinks that he's there to get back,

585
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.119
you know, to doing those things. But he ends up

586
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.119
giving him a little bit and you know, basically saying hey,

587
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:48.519
I'm done.

588
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.119
You know, I'm you know. Yeah, SE's a redeentant moment

589
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:52.480
right there.

590
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.599
Absolutely, especially the way they they sat on it, Like

591
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.640
he went out and he got there early, so he

592
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.799
went out, you know, watched the water for a little bit.

593
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.640
You thought, Okay, this is where it's gonna turn. He

594
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.240
has to do something that he shouldn't do because he

595
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.960
needs to provide for his family. But then they don't

596
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:07.279
do that.

597
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:13.680
Yeah again, Ryan Coogler, he keeps he keeps you on

598
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:17.400
your toes because every time you think, like, you know,

599
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.599
I'm not gonna approve of what this character is about

600
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:24.559
to do, he shows you that he's not doing that regardless, right,

601
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.640
you know, and you and you just keep falling for

602
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.359
it over and over. You know, it's and it's it's

603
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.000
amazing how how he does that to us. But uh, Yeah.

604
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.039
I love that moment because even then, that's like, Okay,

605
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.319
well he just did the right thing. But he's still

606
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.960
in a major jam because rent is due, he's promised

607
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.319
money to his sister to help her out, He's got

608
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.079
you know, he's got his daughter to take care of,

609
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.880
Like what where, what's he gonna do? You know, he's

610
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.680
in a mind and sure, yeah, and even and despite

611
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.480
all that, his priority is just to make sure that

612
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.079
his is his girlfriend fiance is going to have a

613
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.000
fun time on New Year's Eve. Yep, you know, I

614
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.240
think it's it's just amazing.

615
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:05.720
It is.

616
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.079
It's absolutely amazing. It is.

617
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.880
There's there's two other things that I want to mention

618
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.559
to make sure we talk about. The first off is

619
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.319
I loved the way Coogler decided to just show us

620
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.440
the text and stuff that came up on the screen.

621
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.279
Oh yeah, I thought that was an amazing touch, especially

622
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.559
since you know, we get to see the actual footage

623
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.799
on the cell phone at the beginning of the movie.

624
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:27.839
You know, I thought that was a great touch that

625
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:28.279
he did that.

626
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.240
But I also love the fact that Kugler decided to

627
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.559
make this movie in one day. You see one day

628
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.160
of Oscar's life, and I felt that was just that

629
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.559
that spoke volume to me on the way he did that.

630
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.480
So I wanted to make sure that we mentioned both

631
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:42.799
of those.

632
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.559
Yeah, because most characters in film, most characters have to

633
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.920
have whether it's it's the course of a day or

634
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.680
weeks or whatever, they have to go on that journey

635
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.559
and they have to have that that that arc, right,

636
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.240
and this is just an average day and this and

637
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.400
this man's life, you know, these are the things that happened, yep.

638
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.079
And it's despite that. It's enough. It's it's enough. We

639
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.839
don't need an arc, you know. And he didn't need

640
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.880
to be a he didn't need that redemptive story trope

641
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.359
because he he found redemption regardless.

642
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.079
You know.

643
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.200
So I love that about this movie me too. So

644
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.279
many good things to day, but anything that you didn't

645
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.000
care for in this movie scenes are performances.

646
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:24.720
You know.

647
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.039
I really had to look and think hard to find

648
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.160
anything that that I disliked in this movie. The only thing,

649
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.839
and this is very minor, is I wish we would

650
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.039
have spent a little bit more time with his family,

651
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.279
I mean, his friends and his fiance girlfriend when they

652
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.079
went into the city before the incident. That's the only

653
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:42.839
dislike I have.

654
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.720
I'll tell you. The film does ramp up really quick

655
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.640
there once they get on the h once once they

656
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.759
hit the bart. But yeah, I and again. And this

657
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.119
isn't a long film either.

658
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.200
No, eight ninety minutes, I think.

659
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.799
Yeah, it's about maybe like an hour, Yeah, maybe ninety minutes.

660
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.359
So I could say that, Uh, I agree with you.

661
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.680
We could have spent a little more time with them. Again, man,

662
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.920
uh another scene that just talks what just shows what

663
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.440
what kind of person this guy was. The the girls

664
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.319
need to use the bathroom, and then you know with

665
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:18.759
the shopkeeper.

666
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.680
And you know, just he talks them into it.

667
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.440
Talks him into it. But but the way he talks

668
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.279
him into it, you know, he here, look, I'm not rich.

669
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.680
Here's my last ten bucks. You can take it and

670
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.880
let these girls use your bathroom or there gonna be

671
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.000
p all over the here, like you know, but I

672
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.599
dig that because you know, any guy is gonna do

673
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.079
that for for his uh, for his partner. But the

674
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.839
fact that a stranger two strangers come walking up and

675
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.799
he sees that the woman's pregnant and she's got to go,

676
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:51.359
and he's like he immediately ghost goes down. We got

677
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:56.799
one more. Yeah that I think that. You know, if

678
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.880
you're asking me, like you can have that scene or

679
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.200
you can have more inter action with his friends. I'll

680
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.279
take the scene with the shopkeeper and the girls need

681
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.760
to use the bathroom absolutely, you know, because it's friend

682
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:14.400
you know, uh, their background characters obviously, because we don't

683
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.119
get to spend a whole lot of time with them.

684
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.039
But but I do appreciate the way this movie shot,

685
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.119
you know, in just the short time that they're available.

686
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.280
This is this is a tight group of friends.

687
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:27.639
And they've been together for a while.

688
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.559
Yeah, and they've been to Yeah, they have been together, Uh,

689
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.559
definitely for a while. So I dig that about it

690
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.320
me too. One thing I want to talk about real

691
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.000
quick too, since we're talking about some of these some

692
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.280
of these powerful scenes and favorite scenes. You mentioned the

693
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:48.960
beginning where we see the cell phone footage. I was

694
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:53.360
really surprised to find out that that was that's that's real,

695
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:59.599
that's actual cell phone footage captured on the on New

696
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.039
Year's DA two fifteen in the morning when when when

697
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.599
Oscar Grant was was was murdered. Yeah, I mean I

698
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:07.440
didn't realize that.

699
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.000
I didn't either, And then after watching the film, and

700
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:11.800
then then I did a little bit of exploration on that.

701
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:13.679
I'm like, oh my gosh, that was the actual real

702
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.039
footage of the incident, and it's just that whole that

703
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.119
whole scene of when it when it happens, you know,

704
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.079
you're you're already on the edge of your seat because you

705
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.000
at the pity your stomach, you know it's coming, and

706
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.920
when it happens, you just from there all the way

707
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.559
to the final shot of the movie, you were just

708
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:33.760
on the edge of your seat.

709
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.039
Just you know, I was in tears.

710
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.639
I don't know about you, Jeff, but when when it happened,

711
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.400
I was tearing up. And then then they gave us

712
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.880
the you know, the the hospital scene with the mother,

713
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.599
and just I was a mess by the end of

714
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:48.800
this movie. And I just thought it was done extremely well.

715
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.519
Oh absolutely it was, because even at the beginning, I

716
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.559
don't know who's who sitting there right, and you know,

717
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.639
you hear that pop and and you know, and I'm like, Okay, well,

718
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.280
what's going on in this movie or what's what's what

719
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.559
am I about to see? And then you get the

720
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.800
you know, you get the flashback where he's in San Quentin,

721
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.199
and that's when my mind starts trying to put it

722
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.719
together without, you know, because again going in cold, not

723
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.880
knowing what this movie is about, I'm thinking, is he

724
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:19.920
gonna end up in prison? Right? You know? Is this

725
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.599
all about him going back to prison? Uh? Did something

726
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.599
happen on this platform? And and he's gonna do something

727
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:28.599
that is a mistake that that puts him back in jail.

728
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.480
And then to find out that again Ryan Coogler, you know,

729
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.079
he he shows you something over here, but what's really

730
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.159
happening is is is over there? Yeah? So I wasn't

731
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:40.800
ready for that. I was then you know, when you

732
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.320
see him laying there and then they start going to

733
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.239
work on him to to save him. M m. Then

734
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.679
I'm like, okay, well how's this now? How you know?

735
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.800
And I I'm right there with with the with the

736
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.000
characters in that in that moment, like in that that

737
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.679
waiting room, like well, what's gonna happen? How you know?

738
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.480
How's this going to end? Because we got I you know,

739
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:02.840
you know, we got to have a where's our happy ending?

740
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:04.360
Basically there isn't a happy there is.

741
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.800
There is not a happy ending in this movie.

742
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.960
No, No, it has an important message which is why

743
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.159
everybody needs to see it.

744
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.960
Yeah, the message, you know, you know, the message is

745
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.840
is uh, it's very powerful and it's very you know

746
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.559
we we we've used that word. I've used that word

747
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.159
quite a bit. We have this this episode, but I

748
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.599
don't I don't know what other word. You know, it

749
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.280
is better, you know, for.

750
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.480
Us to to use absolutely.

751
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:33.760
Yeah, Google is just incredible.

752
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.119
He is he is and you know that that leads

753
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:36.320
me in.

754
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.039
I talked about a couple of quotes I was going

755
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.079
to mention earlier, and you know this is a perfect

756
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.159
place that you know, I talk about those. So the

757
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.519
first one, Coogler expressed his uh desire to make this

758
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.320
film about Grant's last day. He says, I wanted the

759
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.800
audience to get to know this guy, to get attached

760
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.239
so that when the state, when the situation that happens

761
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.920
to him happens, It's not just like you read it

762
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.280
in the paper, you know what I mean? When you

763
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.920
know somebody a human being, you know that life means something.

764
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:05.880
And you know that speaks volume of how Couglar shot

765
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.239
this movie right there. But the last quote that I

766
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:10.760
have for him, this is the one that really drive

767
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.320
home because he talks about them filming at the actual

768
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.320
place that Grant got killed. We shot here of Bart's

769
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.639
stationed for three nights after the station was closed. Everybody

770
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.559
was there with us, Bart employees, safety monitors, train drivers,

771
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:28.440
all the cast members and crew. Some of us would pray,

772
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.159
others would just keep to themselves. The energy of it

773
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.079
hit everybody. It was the hardest thing I've done in

774
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.719
my life making this movie. Having to see real life

775
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.440
here after die so many times and having to see

776
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:44.360
that people react to it. That never gets easy, man,

777
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.599
never Wow. So, I mean, you know, Cougler obviously had

778
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.400
such a passion, you know, to bring this movie, you know,

779
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.119
to the theater for everybody to see this, and everybody

780
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.559
needs to see this. But Jeff, you know, tell us

781
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.719
some stuff about Cooglar. I mean, people who don't know

782
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:01.920
about this movie. Like I didn't know about this movie.

783
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:03.559
Maybe people don't know about Coogler.

784
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.199
So tell us about Yeah, I mean, yeah, we talked

785
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.320
at the beginning, you know, saying like, hey, we love

786
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.719
this guy, but but he came he came out of nowhere, right,

787
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.480
very impressive origin story, if you will, I use it.

788
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.280
I use that term since he's you know, big in

789
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.480
the superhero genre now with White Panther. But right off

790
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.800
the bat, you know we're gonna love this guy because

791
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:31.599
he's born in nineteen eighty six. Oh yeah, that's already

792
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.239
a good sign.

793
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:32.639
Yep.

794
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.480
And if you listen to our limited series you know

795
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:40.079
why I said that, But listen. Athlete all through school.

796
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.920
He attends Saint Mary's College of California on a football

797
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.440
scholarship as a wide receiver. Nice, and he has an

798
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.440
intention of majoring in chemistry. Now football, yeah, chemistry, Yeah,

799
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.440
he's see, he's like Peter Parker.

800
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.280
Yeah.

801
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:00.360
Here's here's what's really cool about Saint Mary's. The football

802
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.000
program encourages players to take a creative writing course. Coogler's

803
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:09.119
work is praised in this class, and it's suggested by

804
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:16.440
his teacher that he learned screenwriting. So that's where it begins. Now. Sadly,

805
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.639
Saint Mary's cancels their football program in two thousand and four,

806
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.800
so Kugler transfers to Sacramento State, where he racks up

807
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.719
one hundred and twelve receptions for twelve hundred plus yards

808
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.199
six touchdowns and a whole lot of writing classes and

809
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.480
a whole lot of film classes. So after he graduates,

810
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.239
he's accepted into the three year master's program at USC

811
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.239
School of Cinematic Arts and Dave. That's where three of

812
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:47.360
his four short films were nominated or won various awards.

813
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.199
And there's a whole lot of awards. Like when you

814
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.880
read about what these things did. And like you mentioned

815
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.960
in twenty eleven, Forrest Whittaker's production company, they're looking for

816
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.159
new filmmakers, young young filmmakers to bring in and see

817
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.559
what they got. He takes a meeting. Ryan Coogler takes

818
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.000
a meeting with Forrest Whitaker, and Fruitville begins to grow.

819
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.039
Wow, that's impressive, man, very impressive.

820
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.199
I would have never ever have guessed a story like

821
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.760
that about someone who ended up writing and directing films

822
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.159
where he's at now, No way.

823
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.119
Yeah, And here's what's cool about this guy. Here's what's

824
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:34.639
really cool about this guy. His father worked with the juveniles,

825
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.719
you know, like at risk juveniles and stuff like that.

826
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.119
Since he's been since the time he was twenty one,

827
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.639
he has worked as a counselor with incarcerated youth at

828
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.800
San Francisco's Juvenile Hall. So, you know, just like his

829
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.639
father who had worked in the same occupation. He's doing

830
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.679
something to give back and to help.

831
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.119
Wow, what an impressive guy.

832
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.280
I didn't know any of this about him, but I'm

833
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.159
telling you now now that I know all this, now

834
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.480
that I see how you know the talented this guy is.

835
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.360
I mean I knew he was with Black Panther and

836
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.400
stuff like that, but I mean now that I know

837
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.440
where he comes from and what he's been through and

838
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.400
what he does and he gives back like this man,

839
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.679
it makes me excited to see other projects that he's

840
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:15.159
working on.

841
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.119
Yeah, well, you want to talk a little bit about

842
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.639
his filmography before we get to future projects. So look,

843
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:25.239
we already talked the Fruitville Station. You know his director

844
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.480
O w in twenty thirteen. But I'll tell you when

845
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.519
I took notice of him, I know what he was

846
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.960
going to be twenty fifteen, Dave, you've known me a

847
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.480
couple of decades now, and you know I am a

848
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.159
huge fan of Rocky YEP. I never thought I would

849
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:48.360
see another Rocky film after Rocky Balboa, and thanks to

850
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:52.599
Ryan Coogler, he he takes the franchise in a whole

851
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.119
new direction, with a whole new character. With twenty fifteen's Creed.

852
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:58.920
Yep, great, I love this movie.

853
00:42:59.039 --> 00:42:59.960
I love this movie.

854
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:00.400
Ye.

855
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.400
The fact that and again you know, he teaming teaming

856
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.519
up with Michael B. Jordan. Again, I can't imagine anyone

857
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.199
else playing the role, you know me there, especially especially

858
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.079
now that I've seen what what Donnie's all about in

859
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:18.599
these movies. Just sensational. Stallone gets nominated for Best Actor

860
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.800
for Best Supporting Actor or Actor. Yeah, yeah, and you know,

861
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:26.119
just I mean talk about taking something, taking a beloved

862
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.199
franchise and then and then bringing it to a whole

863
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:30.719
new audience.

864
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.199
Yeah, giving us something new that we never would have expected.

865
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.760
Absolutely, I love it. Speaking of something new and unexpected.

866
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:44.960
Twenty eighteen, Black Panther comes out. Look, you and I

867
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.079
both you know, we've read comic books our whole lot,

868
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.000
you know, as kids. Black Panther was one of those

869
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.559
cool characters that would show up occasionally in a Spider

870
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:56.719
Man comic or you know, with the Avengers, you know,

871
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.159
and again, you know, one of those one of those

872
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.119
one of those those smaller, smaller scale characters in the

873
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:08.800
Marvel world that you didn't really know a whole lot about.

874
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.239
But I'll tell you what, everyone knows who Black Panther is. Now,

875
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.440
this movie did like a billion dollars.

876
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.599
Yeah, I can see why, because it's it's done so well.

877
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.000
I mean, he right, written and directed by by Coogler,

878
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.119
and it's the first superhero film ever to be nominated

879
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.639
for the Academy Award for Best Picture.

880
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:30.679
And I can see why.

881
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:33.960
I can definitely see why. Yeah, absolutely, you know, it

882
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.800
didn't win, but just the fact that it's nominated is amazing.

883
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.199
And until we get that with the next one and again, well,

884
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.360
and you know Black Panther, Michael B. Jordan is back again.

885
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.400
You know, uh he is always working with Jordan and

886
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:53.559
man talk about a successful partnership. Yeah, why not? Yeah?

887
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.840
Why not? A yeah, I know he's also it's rumored

888
00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.519
that there's like there's some kind of scene where he's

889
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.480
in kind of forever. Also, I've read I'd be okay

890
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.599
with it because I love this character in Black Panther, because, yeah,

891
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:11.000
he's supposed to be the villain, but in a lot

892
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:11.639
of ways he's not.

893
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:12.159
He's not.

894
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.719
I mean, I I kinda you know, when you go

895
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.280
back and you watch that on repeated viewings, you kind

896
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.679
of you're kind of on his side. You know, at

897
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:26.800
least I was the guy got cheated. You know, just

898
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:32.039
wonder what was his? So who wouldn't want exactly exactly? Yeah,

899
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.920
So Ryan Coogler has given us just a handful of films.

900
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.519
I know, well, you know we kind of we kind

901
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.239
of glossed over Creed too. He executive produced it, was

902
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.960
not was not involved in the direct directing or writing

903
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.639
of that one. So but again Creed two, fun movie,

904
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.599
you know, kind of open up the world a little bit.

905
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.559
I know a lot of people were like Drago's son

906
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.360
versus the Polar creed Son. You know, it's just gonna

907
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.960
get a little hammy. I didn't think so I loved it.

908
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.440
Well, very what's so what's next with him?

909
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.960
Uh? You know he's actually teaming up with Michael B.

910
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:14.800
Jordan again the movie. I know they announced it. I

911
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.079
don't know when it's coming out, but it's called Wrong Answer,

912
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.559
And just like Fruit Reveal Station, Googler has shown he

913
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.559
can take a true story and make it a very

914
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.199
important film. Dave, I don't know what you know about it,

915
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:33.679
but Wrong Answer is based on the Atlanta Public Schools

916
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.719
cheating scandal. Oh okay, I don't know if you I

917
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.000
was like, what what cheating scandal? I did a little

918
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:45.760
bit of homework on it. Wow, I mean this, I'll

919
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.480
tell you right now. I can't wait to see this

920
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.559
movie because just just based off of what I read

921
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.400
about the real scandal, you know, and it's one of

922
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.000
the biggest scandals in American history.

923
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.159
Oh wow, I don't know anything about so looking forward

924
00:46:59.199 --> 00:46:59.480
to it.

925
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.920
Do some homework and then you'll be excited to see,

926
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.519
uh see what he's got coming up next.

927
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.639
We's Coogler film. Already got excited.

928
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.920
Exactly exactly, uh Dave. Look it goes with us saying

929
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:12.519
we we recommend people see this movie.

930
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.760
Right, Oh, absolutely, please see this movie. You know, don't

931
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:18.199
just say because it's a great film, but it's got

932
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.280
a great message too. You need to see it.

933
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.639
It does. Any final thoughts about the about Fruitville Station.

934
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.360
No, just just you know what we mentioned, you know,

935
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.039
it's it's a powerful film that needs to be seen

936
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.119
by all so that you know, you can understand that

937
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.679
message so that stuff like this doesn't get repeated.

938
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.519
Well, check it out. It's on Amazon Prime if if

939
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.239
you have Prime, If you don't, heck, order order a

940
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:42.679
copy of this is one I'd I'd love to have

941
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.679
a copy of this because you know, it's it's good.

942
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.599
We're gonna see this happen. It's you're gonna want to

943
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:46.960
watch it?

944
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:47.480
Yep?

945
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.599
Are you gonna want to show the film to somebody?

946
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.920
And then streaming rights or options are gonna change and

947
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:54.840
it's not gonna be available. I say, I own a

948
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copy of it. Honestly, I agree you and I we're

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gonna go see. Uh what kind of forever? We got

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our tickets? So ask the only question, I guess, the

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only question, Dave, any chance we can go back to

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the box office? Can we give? Can we?

953
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Will we do it?

954
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Yeah? Will we have time to do a quick review?

955
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Maybe maybe put that out for our listeners, let them know.

956
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We would be more than happy to do that. Again,

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give the.

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Spoiler free spoiler free as it were?

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It sounds like fun.

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Excellent. I'll tell you what else is fun? The birth

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year of Ryan Coogler nineteen eighty six. Connection. Next week,

962
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Dayton Johnson of the Docking Base seventy seven podcast will

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be joining me to talk about Lucas the the Corey

964
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Hayme movie about high school football as it were. Uh,

965
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And then, Dave, you'll be back at the end of

966
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the month, right we're gonna talk about color of money.

967
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.159
Yep, looking forward to that too.

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I am myself. So until then we will. We'll see

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you next time.

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Cam.

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You know what, I screwed up again. I forgot all

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about like, hey, you know www dot somebody you know

973
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what you can find us. You got this, you just

974
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type it in. If you're listening to us, you already

975
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know where to find us. I have monumentally screwed up.

976
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.039
Yeah, this has been a little bit of a mess

977
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up to day of my part, your part. S. We've

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been a little to the police. But hey, we got it.

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I think it's gonna be

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Our Come on, come on, come on, come on, feed me, Dave,

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come on,