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Space the Final Frontier. These are
the voyages of Strange New Wednesdays, It's

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continuing mission to explore episodes of Strange
New Worlds to seek out new information and

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new discussions, to boldly go where
no podcast has gone before. Hello everyone,

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and welcome back to Strange New Wednesdays, where we continue to talk everything

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about the current season of Star Trek
Strange New Worlds. Once again read alert.

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Please be warn spoilers to our ahead, So if you haven't seen this

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week's episode, please stop, go
watch it and then come back to join

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us. I am David Burns,
I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.

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Today we are discussing season two Episode
five. Sure rates well, gentlemen,

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we get a much more lighthearted episode
this time. But before we discuss

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it, Scott, can you give
us a recap of this week's episode?

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Absolutely. This episode gives us a
fascinating look at a side of Spot we've

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never seen before and an interesting twist
on his relationship with Nurse Chapel. On

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the eve of an important matrimonial engagement
ritual, Spak has to focus on convincing

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his future in laws that he's vulcan
enough for their daughter to bring. As

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these events get closer to pushing Spock
in Chapel further apart, they team up

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on a mission to investigate an ancient
civilization that's somehow connected with an anomaly in

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space. When their shuttle is destroyed
in an accident, the aliens repair the

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craft and its crew of two almost
Spock awakens to see Chapel, Pike,

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and Embenga standing over him in sick
Bay and wondering why he's suddenly and completely

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human. What results is a fun
look at how Spok deals with human emotions,

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odd stirrings, teenage angst, and
moments of housekeeping related rage. With

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help from his human mother Amanda and
Pike, Spot navigates a grueling dinner with

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his future in laws. At the
same time, Chappell works furiously through survivor's

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guilt to fix Spock, even going
so far as to face off against alien

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customer service reps. Very detailed well. I thought it was very interesting how

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much seeing to bring in another funny
episode or reminded me of the body swap

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episode from season one, how much
she's kind of in these situations as much

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as her character has to be a
naturally dead pan character. That there's kind

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of a comedic theme to when she
appears. You know, it's it's it's

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we get quite a few laugh out
moments and in this episode, but you

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know, we also get those heartstring
moments like sprinkled throughout, you know,

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which you know, just reminds us
how much we love these characters in the

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chemistry that continues to shine among this
cast. I mean, this really don't

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know if one of you mentioned it
before, but I'm going to say a

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bit. This feels like the next
generation crew and how that chemistry is just

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rolling with them and it just makes
this show that much better. And I

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love that very much about it.
Yeah, and it's a very smart use

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of comedy to not just be slapstick
and silly and get cheap laughs, but

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to full out emotional truths. Yeah, you know, and it's it's it's

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so brilliant way we do you agree? Yeah, I definitely agree. You

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know, when I was reading the
the snops for the episodes of season,

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this was the episode that I was
looking forward to least because it just,

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i mean, we've seen this a
lot of times. Most sci fi shows

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will do this where a character becomes
human or becomes something that they they're not.

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And it's funny. When I first
started, the first thing that came

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to my mind, and David,
you might know this reference. I don't

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know about you, Scott, but
there was an episode of Red Dwarf that

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was called DNA where crit and Fangs
himself human a DNA alterning machine change turns

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him into a human and he has
to deal with the emotions and then of

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course, you know, at the
end, he decides to m he'd rather

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be a mechanoid, being a robot
rather than human. This reminding me a

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lot of that. But fortunately,
unlike that episode, we didn't have to

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deal with Spok being sexually aroused by
watching machine. But that's a deleted thing.

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Yeah, it's you know. I
So I wasn't looking forward to this

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episode. I thought this is not
going to work for this Star Trek,

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but this ended up being actually my
favorite episode of the season so far.

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Here is a good point about you
know, other series trying this, this

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trick of turning a character into a
human and having them deal with certain emotions.

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But something that's that's interesting each time
that I've watched this is just remembering

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that it's pulling forward spots human side
right, whereas other characters are kind of

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you know, what is this emotion
that I'm feeling? What is the this

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new thing? He's always been aware
of these things. They're just kind of

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unleashed like he he doesn't he doesn't
know, like what is this thing I'm

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feeling. He's like weirdly hungry.
I know what this is. It's just

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now he's able to let it out. There's. Um. What I liked

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about the show with spok is the
fact that you know, we got to

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see some of the scenes where he
was the vulcan, but we got to

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see those same scenes again, know
where he was human, and getting to

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react to those just led up to
set some funny, funny moments. Yeah,

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the scene where he kept looking at
um um, oh my goodness,

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Kirk say damn. And you know
he's like looking at it at the table

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and he's like seeing the crumbs and
stuff like that there. So when he's

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a vulcan, you know he kind
of you know, tolerate a little bit

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more about it. He just went
off the right. Yeah. I related

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to him about that. I hate
when people do it. Let just let

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their dirties just set in front of
you. Yeah, I laughed so hard

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when it cut back and they were
holding Spark back, which and Sam's like,

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seriously, you're going to talk about
this now? Okay, I'm right

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middle of talking. I'll get to
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what I find funny that moment too? Did you notice that Sam raised his

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hands and head that look on his
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that like James Kirk had Williams Shatner, you know, that famous shot you

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see of him like raising his Yeah, I wonder if they did that on

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purpose? Maybe maybe I thought that
was pretty funny. I laughed at that.

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Here's a holy crap. Did they
do that on purpose? Yeah?

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That was awesome. Although it's it's
interesting that they used Sam for that because

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now you get a little bit of
a taste for how much is he actually

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holding in when he's interacting with a
Kirk, you know, with with Jim,

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He's probably like, right, So
I've got I've got a surprise question

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for you both. So, uh, seeing that Spock and Pike, especially

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Pike loves to cook, if Spock
and Pike were cooking, what would they

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be making for you too? For
me, it would have to be breakfast,

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Okay, knowing how I mean,
you know, I'll I'll say something

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that might, you know, trigger
a bunch of responses. But bacon is

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bacon. But we've already seen a
few times when when Pike is making breakfast,

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it just blows people away, and
that's probably what i'd pick. Okay,

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actually I agree with that. I
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But then, but I love bacon. Bacon's fantastic, and I wanted

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to do exactly what Spock did and
just eat it all and sitting right in

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front of them. But no,
I would definitely want them to make me

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make me breakfast. I think it'd
be fantastic. Yeah, that's one aspect

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that I love about this show,
and I'd love to find out if antson

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Mount I know that he puts a
lot of himself in Pike. I wonder

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if he has this, you know, attraction to cooking, because he makes

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it look so fun, even when
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to say, Spuck, come on, smell this like it looks fun.

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And I think that's a great aspect
to his character that they use. And

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I'm glad we're getting to see that
side of Pike. We're getting to see

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that part of the crew. You
know that we're not used to seeing,

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and we're seeing more and more of
that with strange new worlds, and I

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love that, Wayne, I think
you mentioned that a few episodes ago.

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Yes, I think that's what makes
the show's work. We saw that on

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the other on the nineties series.
You know, when you when they sent

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around the episode, they show show
them outside of the action. I think

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that's when Star Trek works the best. It brings us, It gives us

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more involved in their character. It
attaches us more to him because it makes

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him human, you know, and
we appreciate that. We care more about

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him. So absolutely love them about
it. Well, one of each week,

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it seems like we have a new
character. She's been here before,

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we saw her in another episode,
but for this season. Miya Kirshner,

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who plays Amanda Grayson, I thought
she was incredible in this guys. Yeah,

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yeah, I think she's a great
ad and she pulls forward so much

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more of that character. Though we've
seen obviously an original track, we've seen

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it in the generation. M I
think she was a great ad to Discovery

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when she first appeared, but in
this episode does such a great job as

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a mom. Yeah, in so
many ways, like aside from her performance

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and being able to kind of see
through and be like, what's with this

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silly hat? Right, and the
way that she handles that teapot is so

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telling where she's like, well,
you have to suppress, Yeah, you

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have to hold a lot of that
in and she's like, I've learned how

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to do that, and knowing that
that's you know, that's an aspect of

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strength that she has, but it's
also you know, it's it's said that

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she has to do that kind of
thing. Yeah. And one of my

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favorite moments I'll go ahead and say
that now is there towards the end when

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you know, Spock and um Amanda
having that conversation and you know, Spot

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tells her you know, I was
so basically I don't know word for word,

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but he basically tells her, you
know, I was so wrapped up

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with with me of you know,
getting making friends with a Valkans and stuff

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that I forgot your journey And you
know that was so telling of in that

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moment, and this whole episode wrapped
it up in that, you know,

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because it's like wow, you know, for him to say something like that

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and he was Vulcan at the time. You know, when he said that,

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you know, he finally understood what
his mom was going through and what

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she did in order to make sure
Spock had everything he had, which is

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what a mother does, you know, And you know a lot of us

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forget that sometimes too, what moms
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what they want and are protected.
And that's exactly what I thought. That

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was an incredible moment in this episode. Yeah, yeah, And I have

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to I'll have to backtraffic my own
emotions because last season, when we first

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saw her, I thought it was
she was miscast. I didn't feel that

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she was the right actress for the
play Amanda, because Amanda, in the

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very little we saw of her,
I think what we saw her twice,

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she was very a very proper woman
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Remember the actress that played her in
the original series, but so you

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know, but it was that very
sixties mother type of character of woman.

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And when I first saw her last
season, I didn't think that the actress

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was was bringing that across. But
she won me over in this episode.

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I think she does such an incredible
job of Amanda. Now that we got

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to see her more, got to
see her act. I want to see

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more of her on the show.
I agree. I think she's she's fantastic.

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She's bringing a new take on the
character of Amanda, and um,

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it's it's just it's lovely. I
agree. I agree, yeah, way,

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And I love that you say that
she You know, it kind of

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gives you a new filter to see
those performances, right because knowing that that

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kind of proper affect that she was
projecting is probably to kind of accentuate that.

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You know, well, I've got
to suppress, and I'm so used

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to suppressing, and the people that
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kind of vulcan background and are kind
of expecting that. Ever, So,

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yeah, I agreed. Not that
performance, it really was so any any

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favorite moments scenes in this Wayne,
what about You? There? There was

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a lot of them for this There
was I actually found myself laughing out loud

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on this episode, which is really
rare for me to do. Uh,

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there were there were so many great
episodes. So the interaction between Spot and

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to Prying and their families and especially
Pike was just hilarious. But I think

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it is such a small bit,
but but my favorite part was when Pike

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was bringing the food, the food
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Spot was telling him what is what
has happened to him that he's become a

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human and Pike's the look on his
face has suddenly changed and he's out of

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air and just turned around and turned. I laughed for about a minute after

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that that I did too. Great
food, great thing. Scott, what

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about you? Yeah, I mean
Wayne, like you said, there are

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so many I've already mentioned a couple. Um. I like his aunt may

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a moment with respect to Mercatome when
he first kind of wakes up his human

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he goes, what the fuck?
What the m oh, yes, the

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hat, the bacon. I think, um, his muscle spasms that he

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was trying to keep in check and
kind of like trying to suppress, like,

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you know, being angry or frustrated. It was a great Adum.

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I've got to give it to to
Pring. I think this This actress always

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gives a great performance and takes a
page from Brent Spiner's book in delivering great

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comedy with a dead paint with a
dead pain character, you know, and

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knowing how to pull those kinds of
things forward. The fact that she was

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just like I've had to deal with
my mother so much, just just no,

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and he's trying to tell her,
but she's like, I can't.

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I just can't right now. Um. I think the the Alien Customer Service

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reps were interesting. Yellow and blue. Yeah, vacation has been made,

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no further contact is required. It's
like, well, we can't lodge a

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complaint because you won't let me through
right. The Science Academy jerk that Chapel

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had to deal with. M I
love when she put him in his place

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and she's like, you know what, your fellowship is not ready for me.

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And I know they will, Yeah, I know they we'll probably get

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into it, but you know,
Jess Bush again great performances as Nurse Chapel

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m not wanting Spock even though he
was human. It was kind of like,

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you know, it's easier to connect
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that I connect with. And it's
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about like you have to be somebody
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and you would think that being human, they'd go right into a relationship,

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but she was like, no,
that's a that's a part of the

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divice. So it's an interesting twist
on Amanda's struggle for accept um. And

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you know, as far as you
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mentioned a bunch. When he's screaming
into the pillow, Yeah, I thought

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that was great. I love that
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wanted to do that. We do
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Yeah. Well, when he kind
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he's like flailing his arms and his
legs, that was fantastic. Um.

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I like that Chapell interrupt his He's
just about to, you know, say

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something about you know, his feelings
for or whatever, and she hits him

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with the hypospray and she's like,
no, I don't want to hear it

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from this spot. I want to
hear it from full spock. And when

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you're ready to do that, let's
go. That was fantastic. Um.

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And then the father in law.
I've got to give credit to that character

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because he was such a great foil
to to Prill, who was also an

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amazing character. She did such a
great job of being somebody that you just

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right no. But he's like,
wow, this is really good. Good

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job. Pike and then she's like, well, no, it's wrong because

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of these reasons. It's oh yeah, maybe try again, and it's like,

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damn it, stand up man,
say something for yourself. Yeah,

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what about You did so many good
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I've not hidden the fact on how
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knocks it out of the park.
You know you've already said that. Um.

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There's a couple of scenes of her
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those was obviously when she was walking
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she is visibly shaken and emotional of
a feel of her feelings for him.

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Um, incredible acting right there at
performance on her part. But another scene

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that I absolutely loved is going back
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to figure out how to help Spot
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and uh, you know she basically, you know, they're saying talking to

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Chapel and Chapel you know, was
trying to hide her feelings there for Spot

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that he's my friend, you know, and you know, a Horror and

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orteg Us are like rolling their eyes
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We know everybody on this ship sees
this, you know. So the moment

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when she's ready to confess and she
does that little thing with her finger to

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make or take us in a horror
turnaround as she was telling a yellow of

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how her true feelings were for Spots
that come on, really gonna haven't turn

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around, They're still gonna hear you. But I love that moment. I

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love Jeff Bush. I love her
so much. She is so incredible in

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this. Yeah, but there's just
so many good scenes in this So I

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have a feeling we're probably all gonna
be talking about the same person, but

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we might not um which character shined
the most. And I'm gonna be rude

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and I'm gonna go first. For
me, it was Ethan Peck. We've

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talked about Spok so many times this
season, but this episode, this episode,

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he truly showed what an incredible performer
he is. He was able to

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take not showing emotions to showing ridiculous
emotions over the top, just funny,

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but yet someone struggling like a teenager. Scott. You mentioned that he knocked

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it out of the park in this
you know, he we've talked about he

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is making Spot his own but he's
also still giving the spot that we know,

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you know, he's he's finding that
balance of the other spots obviously Leonardimoy,

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but you know, he's finding it
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and making us love him for that. For ethanpect to be able to go

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through all of those emotions in this
episode and perform and make us believe he

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was actually going through those that full
gamma of emotions, you know, hunger,

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acceptance, anger, frustration, all
of that. He knocked it out

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of the park. There is no
way that I would say anybody else was

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shining to the most in this episode
except Scott. What about you? Yeah,

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I totally agree. I couldn't agree
more. Yeah, you raised great

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points. I think it's daunting for
each of these actors. It's got to

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be daunting to try to step into
these roles knowing how much legacy is preceding

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it, especially with Spock. Yeah, and Ethan Peck has done an amazing

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job in every performance. I feel
with the Spot character, he's done a

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great honor to Leonard Nimoy and what
the character has been built to be.

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But I agree this This gives such
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the writers in addition to Ethan for
giving so much more of it because his

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performance you can still see Spock there, and again it goes back to that

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idea of like, it's not changing
him, it's just uncovering another aspect of

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it, and you can see,
like, as much as there are funny

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moments with his you know, ocd
lash out at Sam, it shows how

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much he's keeping in check and the
nature of the you know, of vulcans

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to have to you know, hould
those down and in many cases we're seeing

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become absolute jerks. But him having
the human side, you know, there's

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more struggle there and his ability to
carry that knowing that it's just showing another

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side of Spok is brilliant. I
don't think it was very well done.

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Agreed, Wayne, what about you? You've brought up some incredible points.

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This this is Spock and Chapel's episode. It was really hard to choose.

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I actually choose Chapel. I think
she stood out just just a hair of

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just a little bit more, her
interactions with Spak, her suppressed desires for

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him, frustratings, her frustrations for
not being able to help him, and

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then of course, you know,
she eventually came up with a solution and

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it took action. Uh. It
was just perfectly played by by just Bush.

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I think we haven't seen she's been
a fantastic actress. I mean,

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she's she's great. But really we
got to see her do so much this

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episode and went at the end when
she tells her her Vulcan interviewer just how

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brilliant she's been and how wrong they
are for for rejecting her. I mean,

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she is, she's brilliant. The
character's brilliant. We've never seen this

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in chapel and we're learning so much
more about this character. She's bringing so

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much to us. It was you
know, that final scene was a great

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bookend for a fantastic episode. I
just just a hair above. I think

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she stood out. I love I
love that to point that out. Wayne.

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I love that you're that you're mentioning
a different character because I love when

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we do that. Although there are
sometimes when you can't help it, like

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you know, yeah, Dave,
I'm still totally agreeing with you, but

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part they're both fantastic. This was
both oh absolutely yeah, yeah, well

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and again kind of you know,
credit to the writers and the actors in

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coming together and bringing together that knockout
performance because not only dealing with her feelings

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on a romantic side, but what
she mentions before about survivor's guilt and how

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much of that's weighing on her and
you know what she's doing, her furious

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you know, working through the night
to find a solution. Is a blend

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of both and she really does a
great job of carrying both of those through

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in her performance. Yeah, totally
agree. When when I sat down to

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figure out which who I thought shined
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down to Chapel and Spock, Wayne, So I completely agree with you your

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choosing a Chapel and you've already confessed
how much I love her, but because

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she's incredible actors, she really is, and she really brought her performance in

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this episode. And you're right,
I can see why you would have chosen

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her, because I was very close
to picking or two, but I just

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had to go with Ethan Pec on
this one. So but still great,

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great choice, Wayne, great choice. So if he could be any character

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in this episode, who would it
be? And why? Wayne? Uh,

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Well, I think I'm gonna choose
Pike this time. You know,

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he spent the whole episode out of
the way, um, because I would

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not be want to be in the
middle of that, that family drama that

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is the worst. And he loves
cooking. You know, I love cooking.

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He loves cooking. You know,
he has the most amazing quarters on

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that ship. Of it he does
he think about all the other other quarters

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from all the other captains either there's
they were also small compared to his.

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He's got this nice, this wonderful
kitchen with all this fresh stuff and and

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you know think he's the last captain
in Starfleet to actually have something like that,

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because everybody else had to eat with
out of those stupid replicators and that's

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boring. I mean, that's that's
there's so much fun that that Pike had

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just standing back and watching Spock and
you know his own problems. You know,

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just just see I ain't getting in
the middle of that, right Scott.

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What about you? Yeah? Well, clearly Wayne, we were having

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some kind of a mind meld because
I agree with every single word that you

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said. Um, I love cooking. It's so much fun. And to

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know how much he brings to this
character with that that there's this you know,

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his quarters are very open and welcome
that kind of family aspect. So

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he's bringing everybody in to cook,
and it's not just you know, it's

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not just come in and eat what
I've cooked, but helped me prep,

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help me wash dishes. It's an
amazing part of the character. Love to

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be Pike during this, even though
he had to go through so much,

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It feels it going to be fascinating
to be there with him when he's making

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these traditional Vulcan dishes and they sound
delicious according to father at Long, So

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yeah, I'd totally be What about
you, David, Well, we've had

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a standby me moment here because all
three of us have chosen Captain Pike for

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the same reason we got a Goojer, we got a um but yeah,

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the same same reason Wayne Pig because
you know, and you Scott, and

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he gets to cook, he gets
to eat and drink, will sit back

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and watch everything fall apart because he
doesn't have to worry about it at all.

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Going back to that moment, you
know that Wayne had mentioned earlier that

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he laughed out loud, because I
laughed out hysterically too when he was bringing

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the drinks that everybody and then Spock
was confessing about what was going on,

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and just that little return to the
side, just something so simple but yet

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made me laugh so hard. Just
his facial expressions too. We're fans and

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they're like, oh god, here
we go. Well, even the namesake

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for the episode, Charades, like
there there's so much that, you know,

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we get to see. Pike have
to add lib Yeah right, and

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he's like, uh, charades,
that's a human thing. Then he tries

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to teach them and he's like,
we you're really not getting this. This

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is gonna be tough. That was
a good toucher by the episode for that.

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I thought that was pretty cool.
Yeah, you know, very well

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done. So did you guys notice
any Easter eggs in this There wasn't very

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many of them in this episode,
you know which I mean, that's okay.

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This episode was full of stuff.
Anyways, they had their own stuff

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to deal with. But there were
a couple um we mentioned. They mentioned

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that Chapel was going to be working
under doctor Robert Corby that was mentioned on

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the original series. That was her
fiancee in uh the episode what Are Little

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Girls Made Of? I haven't seen
that episode in so many years, but

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I do. I do remember so
I'm not really sure if how much the

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character appeared on there, but that
was a reference back to that episode.

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And then, of course, you
know, there were a lot of references

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back to Journey of Journey of Babel, Yeah, especially with spos ongoing feud

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with his father. Um, of
course, you know his mother's appearance.

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But that's the only thing I was
really able to catch in this episode.

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Nice, well, I think the
only thing I caught was hold onto your

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butts. I don't know if that
was a non or not, but yes,

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nice, I loved it. I
wonder if that'll be Ortega's you know,

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that'll be her thing, think that
she says in the chair, I

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love I loved the um, the
use of the classic nimoy ears. Yes

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he was using as the disguise.
I kind of wondered if they, you

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know, maybe molded those after the
original um, especially when you know Ethan

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kind of picks them up and wiggles
them a little bit and he's like,

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really, these things are full of
people. Yeah and yeah, all right,

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so I'm sorry, go ahead.
I also want to mention because this

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isn't really an Easter egg, but
I liked seeing it. It was nice

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to see another non humanoid alien race
in Star Trek. We don't get very

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many of those in any of the
Star Trek series, and it was great

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scene one that actually it could interact
with the with the characters. Kind of

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reminded me of another race that we
saw a long time ago, the calumar

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Rain, which was in Next Generation
and the one that said was chasing after

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Q when he became human too.
I forgot all about that. You know,

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Q became human very similar to what
Spock did here and having to deal

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with it. But it's nice to
see that we usually always get humanoids with

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with the prosthetics on their forehead,
and we need to see more non humanoid

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races. I agree. I agree
completely Well. Next week's episode Lost in

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Translation, what do you guys think
about that one? That'll be interesting in

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my house because I've been I kind
of watch these in different stages. I'll

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watch the episode at first on my
own just to you know, get a

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first impression. Then I'll watch it
with my family, including my ten year

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old. And there was one particular
scene where you know, her is scared

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by, you know, some kind
of zombie looking thing, and it's like,

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all right, I might have to
get a screen this a little bit,

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but it looks like an interesting,
kind of a scary episode. It

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looks like Carol Kane's back, which
is awesome. I think we'll see a

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lot more of her this episode two. Yeah, I hope. So it

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looks fantastic. So looking forward to
it as I always do. But I'm

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predicting and I'm hoping that this is
it. You're her episodes. We haven't

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got much of her and I want
to see her get an appisode. Yeah,

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she had a few episodes where she
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it's her turn again to show us
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them all right, So we're gonna
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