Strange New Wednesdays - The Broken Circle

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Space the Final Frontier. These are
the voyages of Strange New Wednesdays, It's

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continuing mission to explore episodes of Strange
New Worlds, to seek out new information

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and new discussions, to boldly go
where no podcast has gone before. Hello

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everyone, and welcome to the first
episode of Strange New Wednesdays, where we

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talk everything about the current season of
Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Red alert

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though, please be worn. Spoilers
are ahead, so if you haven't seen

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this latest week's episode, please stop, go watch it and then come back

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to join us. I am David
Burns and with me is Chief Science Officer

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Wayne Whited. Wayne, welcome,
Hello, It's nice to be here again.

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Um. I don't know about being
Chief Science Officer, but I have

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seen most every episode of Star Trek
most I have to emphasize that part of

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it. Yeah, I think I've
seen probably most too, so any regardless,

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we also have Chief of Engineering Scott
Hoffman, but he is on an

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away mission this week and he will
be returning to us on the next episode.

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Hopefully he comes back with some good
stories for us. Today we are

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discussing season two, episode one,
the Broken Circle. So Wayne, I

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know, um, last season.
We ended the with Spock having some problems

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with controlling his emotions. Lanne went
on left the ship with the young girl

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I think her name was ari Anna
to basically take her home. And then

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of course we had Una, who
is number one for the Enterprise, the

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first officer. She um got arrested
for being an Illyrian. Illyrian? Is

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that how you pronounced that? That
racist name? You know? I'm not

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sure. I think you're pretty close
to it. Yeah, yeah, you

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got it. It's really hard to
say. For some reason, for me

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Illyrian, which is basically an outlaw, an outcast for the United Fighters and

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the Planets, they don't want them
in there because I guess they're like,

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what, genetically modified where they can
enhance like their bodies and something like that.

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I believe, yes, that's correct. That's uh to any genetic modifying

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or are changing is illegal in the
Federation ever since the Eugenic Swars with Cohnin

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and all of his men exactly.
Yea, So we basically picked back up.

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I think it's a couple of weeks
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we're at. The Enterprise is docked
at the space station, which I gotta

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say is one of one of the
cool scenes of the opening when that that

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the camera comes swooping down and then
you you get that Yes, I agree.

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You come around and you see the
Enterprise and you get that score.

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Oh I love that shot. Yes, it was very very impressive shot.

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I think that's supposed to be starbaseed
one. I believe it's what they said,

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which you know, we've never seen
before. And it was just a

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beautiful shot. Beautiful CGII there,
it really was. I really enjoyed that.

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Um. But we've got Um in
jail obviously, and then the Enterprise

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is getting fitted and going back over
make sure everything's okay, upgraded and stuff

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like that, and I think,
what half of the crew um is on

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leave, you know, on shore
leave, and one of the weirdest moves

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I've got to say, Wayne,
Um, I know, we get a

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little bit of Captain Pike um,
but you know he talks to Una and

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then basically leaves. He goes to
I guess find a lawyer for her that's

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going to represent her in court.
But this is the first episode of a

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new season and Captain Pike is a
main character. He just leaves. I

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totally agree. It's just it's a
very weird season opener. I'm not going

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to call it a problem. I
didn't have a problem with it because I

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mean, with this being the first
episode, I want to see where it

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goes. But it's just what we
The first episode just didn't feel like a

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season opener, actually felt like more
like a season our episode three, with

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the next episode feeling more like the
season opener it did. I was really

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confused by that, and I'm like, is he really leaving? And the

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next thing you know, he's gone, and what now? I will say,

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you're right, it felt like it
was maybe in middle of the season

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or something like that later on,
like you would not an opener of a

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season. But what I did appreciate
though, because it gave a chance for

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some of the other cast members to
really shine. Yes, this was this

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was SPOX episode. There's no doubt
about it. This was SPOX episode,

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Oh no doubt. And I truly
truly thought Ethan Peck really shine in his

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role of Spot in this episode.
I when they cast at him, I

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never thought that we would get another
good Spot. But Ethan Peck is doing

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a fantastic job. He's knocking it
out of the part. In my opinion,

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Oh yeah, he's put a completely
new twist to the character. But

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he's still he's channeling Leonard Nimoy yep
um. He's just doing a phenomenal job

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every every episode that he comes back, every season we've seen him. This

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this is actually his third season since
he was on the second season of Discovery,

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right, He's just he's improving.
He's he's showing a younger version of

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Spock to the one we're familiar with, one that's still trying to understand and

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control his emotions, his human side. This is a version of Spot we've

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never seen before. I agreed,
you know, with him finding his emotions

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and stuff like that. He obviously
made some choices and decisions that he would

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never have made if he wasn't going
through that. He was wasn't dealing with

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his emotions like he was in this
episode, because come on, Spock would

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never decide, hey, let's steal
the enterprise. There's no way Spok would

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have done that before. Oh and
and even like what I felt, what

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I was funny is when Pike told
him that he was going to be in

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charge of the enterprise, and you
could just see it. What what this

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This can't be happening, and he's
like, you know you're gonna be fine.

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You're you're in doc. You know
everything's fine, You're not going anywhere,

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you know, everything will be fine. Sure enough, of course stuff

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happens. But then like the next
scene, he was in the doctor's office

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but dearly with all his stress.
I loved that so much. And you

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know, we're seeing the beginnings of
everything that we you know, are familiar

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with from the original series and from
the movies. Um. I liked you

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mentioned the scene in the the medical
office. I love the fact that we

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saw his the origin of his his
his love for music. Well love may

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not be the right word to use
for a vulcan, but the introduction to

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the music with the vulcan liar,
I thought that was that was just cool.

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It was when when they when they
introduced the doctor brought that out.

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I'm like, oh man, look
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But yeah, but to go beyond
that though, Ually what happens in

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the episode is they have a bunch
of technicians or on the ship going over

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it. So they get this message
um from Noon and Singh that you know,

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a distress signal, basically that you
know that she needs some help,

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and you know, Spock does the
logical thing and ask that if they could

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go help her, and of course
Starfled's like, no, you're not going

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to do that. We can't get
involved because apparently where they're going this is

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a mining planet, I believe,
and it's shared by the Federation and the

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Klingons, Like one month it's the
Clingons and the next month is the Federation.

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Was that right? Did I hear
that correct? Yeah? No,

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that that's correct. I'm not sure. I'm always a little confused about the

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time periods of stuff a star Trek. I'm not sure if it's supposed to

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fall in like the neutral zone or
something. But yeah, you're you're correct,

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is shared by the by both both
the races. Yeah, and then

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this I believe this month was to
cling On because he even says, you

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know, we'll wait till next month
and then when it's our turn, we'll

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go. But clearly, you know
it's this is a distress signal, and

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the crew of the Enterprise, who
this uh thing is their friends, they're

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freaking out. And then when a
Spock makes the decision, you know,

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we're going to steal the Enterprise,
and everybody's like look at him, like,

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is this is this really happening?
Is this spock in charge? And

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uh? And then comes up one
of the best characters that I that I

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have fallen into love as fast as
I did I love and I know she's

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going to become the new chief of
engineering for the enterprise. Uh is it

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Paulia? I believe it's her name, um who is played by the wonderful

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and talented Carol Kane. Her introduction
Wayne, when she came onto the bridge

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and like they were venting the you
know, they had the red alert going

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off because they were ing the warp
core or whatever it was, and people

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were leaving the ship. And she
wasn't she wasn't fooled. She was smart,

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she was intelligent. And she walks
onto the bridge just calm as calm

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can be, and everybody's looking her
like and this bock even says, should

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you be uh leaving? And then
she goes goes into that conversation, come

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on, I know what's going on
here. You know, you guys are

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stealing their pride and then she joins
them for it. I loved her character

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so much, Wayne, I do
too. I Well, Carol Kane's just

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a phenomenal actress. I've loved her
and everything she's done. I was really

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surprised when they cast her, but
but pleasantly surprised her character's fun. Um,

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I gotta I have to make nitche
mention to her accent. That is

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a very weird accent. But she's
playing a new She's playing a new race,

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of a new alien race. We've
never heard of him with theirites.

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I think it's what it was called. And um, so you know,

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it's great. She she's putting her
twist to the to this new race,

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creating a new mythology for Star Trek
and I you're right. I do see

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her becoming the engineer of the ship, which you know that the ship needs

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one they have one. I don't
think they have one yet, they don't

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know they're looking for one. Yeah, yeah, And I can't wait to

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see her and what they're gonna do. She didn't really appear too much in

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this episode, but what a couple
of scenes, and think two three scenes

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that she was in. She really
made an impact. Oh, she shined.

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I laughed every time she was on
screen. I mean her back and

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forth with Spot there at the end
of the episode. I absolutely adored and

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loved because apparently her race is like
lived to be really old, and she

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apparently spent some time about that.
Yeah, like during the twenty first century,

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didn't she She was living on earth, is what they said. Actually,

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I think they I think it was
a twentieth century, twenty twentieth first

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century, Yeah, somewhere around that
time, around our time actually, So

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she's been there what two hundred years
now, yeah, I think twenty three

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hundred years. And that's curious.
I can't wait to see what they where

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they go with that and what that
brings to the storyline. There's a lot

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to explore there, and I'm excited
to find out, that's for sure.

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So you know, eventually they make
it to the mining planet, and of

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course the Enterprise has to stay hidden. They go down and visit Noon and

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Sing, and then that's where we
start getting into the story of this where

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you know, nurse Chapel and a
doctor Membinga are eventually captured. And what

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I like about this is because you're
starting to see what's going on within this

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season. I believe we'll get a
little bit towards what happens at the end,

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but we do find out that nurse
Chapel and Membinga were in the Klingon

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War. They had served in that
war, so they're kind of freaking out

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that they're on the edge of it
happening again. Yeah, and I really

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love that. And I'm going to
say it right now. I one of

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my favorite characters of all of Strange
New Worlds is Nurse Chapel. I love

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her character so much. Not only
and I'm not just saying she's just she's

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a beautiful woman, but she's a
very talented actress. Um. She brings

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to the table a lot, and
you know, she she when she's on

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screen, you can tell she's on
screens. She's very powerful. She commands

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the screen and um, she kicks
butt in this. Herd and documenting both

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kick button this because they take that
um what's that serum call that magism.

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They're like the extra strength I'm not
sure what was called. I'm not sure.

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Yeah, but um, they take
it so that they can basically kick

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butt with the Klingons to you know, send a message to the Enterprise to

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warn them of what is going on, because apparently there is someone who is

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trying to start a new war between
the Federation and the Klingons. Which is

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what we discover here, right,
and they have gotten some Starfleet tech,

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basically a ship hidden in this mind
and you know, eventually, you know,

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it takes off into space because they
cling on a bird of Prey had

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shown up and they basically without a
Bird of Prey. Yeah, that was

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a D seven D seven battle cruise
for thing. I know, that's one

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of my favorite cling On ships.
Yes, so it shows up and obviously,

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you know, the Enterprises stayed hidden. But this faction that is wanting

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to start a new war between the
Klingons and the Federational Planets, um,

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you know, bring this ship out
because it's Starfleet. So the Clingons are

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clearly going to think Starfleet is here
to start a war and they're going to

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try to destroy this ship and basically
start that new war. And then Membinga

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and um, Nurse Chapel are you
know, trying to send a message off

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to the Enterprise. They say,
hey, blow this ship up, which

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to me way leads into one of
the best scenes of the whole episode.

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I don't know about you, but
the scene between Nurse Chapel and Membinga when

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they're in the the Clingons are trying
to get to them. They're on that

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airlock and they know they're looking for
suits and there's no suits to get it,

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so they know that they're gonna have
to be sucked out in space and

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they're not going to live. Basically, you know, that's the scene between

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the two of them when Membinga looks
at her and basically says, we've been

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through worth and she looks back because
no we haven't. And you know,

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you just see the emotions in the
first which is going to lead me back

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to how talented she is. You
could just see that in her eyes,

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her face that she knew this is
it. This is the end of their

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life right then and there, and
you know, I loved it. And

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they got sucked out into space.
And then you go back and Spock is

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making this decision on the bridge that
do I want to blow this ship up?

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Do I want to fire? Because
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on that ship. What can but
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to make a decision right there,
and you see the emotions in ethan Pec's

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face where he knows he has to
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to fire, and when it blows
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being I get blown out, We'll
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that the emotions in spots face where
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up. You get the incredible score
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the suit that men Big and Chapel
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you get that swirl effect of them
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that was a very unusual shot.
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I don't think we've ever seen transporting
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And I thought it was so well
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me, you love a good music
score. When it hit really powerful right

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there when they got warped onto the
transporter pad and Spot comes running in and

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basically trying to do CPR on her
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and you get that that powerful score
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love that scene so much of that
that's it was. It was incredibly powerful.

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I mean, he got the Ethan
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chops. Plus you got the score
swirling behind him. It was just such

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an emotional, powerful scene, probably
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agree with that. So Wayne,
any any favorite moments from this episode.

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Uh yeah, well we already mentioned
the FX at the beginning of Probably I

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would say the one scene that kind
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of brought strange new worlds into the
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whole legacy was Spocks. Well,
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His his thing, his his his
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the the Enterprise out into space.
Um, everyone has one. Every every

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captain has one. Every every captain
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to see what was cards was engaged
and burned him? Was let fly?

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Let's fly? Um? And you
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in the last episode of Star Trek
Picard with the Seven of Nine. But

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uh, they very sneakily cut off
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so we got it to hear it
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on just maybe laugh, which it's
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his his eye, he's he's proud
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is like, you know, what
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favorite part of that episode. What
was it? I would like to shift

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to go now, yes, now, yeah, yeah, had that now

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at the end and there's not the
get a round up. The crew just

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like looking at each other and just
like smiling. Was perfect because I knew,

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this is Spock. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Yes. I thought

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that was a great cast scene too, I really did. Um. Another

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shot that I thought was kind of
cool. It was the Marian moment,

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which I would like to call from
Raiders of Lost Arc where land Unan Seeing

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was drinking with the Klingon and she
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when they oh you thought eggs,
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scene from Raiders of the Lost Arc. That's exactly the way I said,

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is exactly what I thought. So
it's like, Okay, I don't know

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if you were intending that. You
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doing that because I loved it.
I thought it was pretty cool. That

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was the first time well we have
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two ago, so that was the
first thing that came to my mind when

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I saw that scene. Yeah,
yep, same here. Um. Another

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thing, another scene that I really
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I thought. Overall, I thought
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exception of losing Captain Pipe for pretty
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I think it really weird. M
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rest of the cast got to shine. I really enjoyed that. But one

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of the scenes that I thought was
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drinking the blood wine with the with
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I just again you see the emotions
of Spok, but you see him

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getting to enjoy a moment um when
he's drinking with him, and he wasn't

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shy about it, you know,
and because the Clingons were even like,

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wow, this is a Vulcan like
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and it was it was so so
unique, and I just enjoyed it and

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made me laugh, especially that last
shot when he drank again and he was

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just doing that like like that shouting
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um so. And then of course
we get some more between him and

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um um Peleia right there, which
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that's where we find a little bit
more about her race. And she she

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made that funny line to where um
spok asked, her, uh, you

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know, are you are you actual
Lanthite Lantha Knight? And she's like,

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wow, she said, I forget
the exact line, but it was like,

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are you really going to ask me
that right now? Just playing around

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though, of course, But um, you know I overall, so,

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um, which character do you think
shine the most? I already give him

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mine away because I love Commander Pealely. I thought she's shined the most.

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spot this was his episode. This
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first season main characters, but I
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Ethan Peck could take center stage,
center seat and just show exactly what his

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spot can be. And this,
yeah, it may be a weird opening

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episode for the season, but he's
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my spot, this is how it's
going to be. He just shined in

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this episode, really really stood up
above everyone else. I agree, you're

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right. This gave Ethan Peck a
chance to show his acting chops to to

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to become the true ownership of SPOK. You're absolutely right, ryaneum if I

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hadn't showed Peal a spot with my
second choice or would have been my first

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choice if Peally didn't shine as much
as I thought she did, but you're

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right, I would have. Spot
was fantastic in this and it gave him

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the opportunity to be put in a
position of command where he hasn't been before.

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But it also got to explore a
little bit of a spot that we

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know that we grew up with with
Lennonimoyne and stuff like that. So I

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thought that was a nice touch.
M You know again, I maybe later

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on in the season, but I
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they got a plan. I know
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I can't wait to explore that.
Um So question for you, Wayne,

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Yeah, we don't know what it
is yet, but exactly if you could

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be any character in this episode,
who would it be in line. Um.

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Okay, this is gonna be a
unusual answer here. Um Captain Pike,

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Okay, because he left, I
don't it's I okay, Well no,

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actually, yes, that's exactly the
reason I'm I'm just not a huge

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I'm just not a huge fan of
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I think that when when they show
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as a planet and whole, they're
very interesting. There's a lot I guess

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it all depends really on the writer
of the episode, but there's a lot

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of differences between them. I've always
thought that Star Trek some writers have a

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problem with showing one sided alien races
where they all tend to to act the

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same way, and the meanytimes they
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aren't like that, right, And
when we show them as a whole,

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with a whole, as a planets, as a civilization, they're they're fantastic.

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Um, you know, like like
episodes from the next areas like Sins

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of the Father Reunion. There were
some Deep Space and episodes like that too.

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But when you start bringing it down
and you start showing just like one

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a few of them, it kind
of they all become like boring and one

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sided to me. This this is
my opinion. I know a lot of

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people love the Klingons, right,
um, but I just I hope,

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well, I hope that we don't
see too much of them and kind of,

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you know, give a mix of
other races, because because the Star

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Trek universe is huge, it's right, there's so many great races and so

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many of them that haven't been shown
very much, haven't been established, and

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that's what I want this show to
to really do. And I think they

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are actually I think they're they're planning
something with the Gorn, which we've hardly

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ever seen, and I can't wait
to see that. But do you also

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let me say one thing about the
Clingons too that I like, thank you,

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thank you for bringing back the actual
look of the Clingons, amen,

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what we saw in Discovery. I'm
amen. It just this is the cling

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Ons that we're familiar with all the
way back to nineteen seventy nine, and

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um, I just did not warm
up to the Discovery version and I was

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worried that that's what the version they
were going to use. But I guess

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after having warf Um for the last
what forever more five months and seeing him,

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Yeah, they had decided, you
know, it's it's time to go

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back to the more familiar type of
cling ons and I completely agree with that,

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completely agree with that. Um for
Meum, Nurse Chapel, I'm gonna

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keep going back to a lot and
you're gonna notice that throw probably during the

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podcast for this season. I love
her character just so so freaking much.

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But you know, she is amazing, but she got to kick button this

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episode. You know that the whole
shot where she's her face is all bloodied

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and she's just a badass in this
man. I loved her. She was

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fantastic. Um. But but to
forward what you're talking about, Um,

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you mentioned the gorn because that's how
this episode ends. You know, uh,

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we see the two I'm guessing were
the admirals. I believe they were

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admirals discussing at the end because you
know they said, you kind of let

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Spock off easy about sealing their price
and stuff like that, because well,

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we can't be attacked on two fronts, so it's good that he was able

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to take care of that. And
then it moves in on that map and

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it shows uh, the battle cruiser
Gorn Um. So we clearly know that

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Gorn's going to be a big element
of season two, which I am a

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static about because one of my favorite
episodes from first season was that very scary,

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creepy Gorn episode. Do you remember
that episode where they were one?

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Oh my god, I love that. That's probably the scariest episode I've ever

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seen of Star Trek. I was
on the it was like Aliens. It

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was so good. Yeah, so
I'm excited to get to see the Gorn

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some more various static I'm sure.
Yeah, they've really never I mean those

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that goes all the way back to
the original series and then they only appeared

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one time. We've hardly ever touched. I think they were appeared on Enterprise

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at one time. But I'd love
to see more about them. Where did

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they come from? What's their plan? Look like you know, exactly what

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are they? What are they about? Yeah? Exactly? Well, Um,

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did you get a chance to take
a look at what's coming up on

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episode two? What are we seeing? I did? I did get to

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see the trailer. Yes, okay, so I believe the episode is called

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ad Astra per Asperrio, and I
believe I think that's right, and I

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believe it's about we're gonna get to
see Captain Pipe finally, we're gonna see

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where he disappeared from the crew,
and I guess we're gonna get to see

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him finding that legal assistance for first
officer. Who knows what it looks like.

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To me, it looks like it's
going to be the straightforward courtroom episode.

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Uh yeah, they all have it. They all ever, all the

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Star Trek series have at least one
or two courtroom episodes. I mean,

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and you know, there's nothing wrong
with that because with Like You Go back

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to the Next Generation, Major of
the Man is one of the best episodes

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of the entire series. But you
know it, I think we're going to

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learn something, though I'm curious.
I mean we I think we're going to

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learn something about Number one yep that
we never heard of before. I don't

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think it's all been revealed yet.
This storyline may may last a few episodes.

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I'm not sure if it's all contained
to one episode or not. But

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I feel that she's hiding something still
that it's beneficial to the storyline, and

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I'm looking forward to seeing what it
is. I mean, you know,

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I'm looking forward to exploring her character
some more in depth because we've not had

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the opportunity to go there. So
you know, I always love a good

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story, even courtroom drama. I
don't mind know them because that's where we

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get to explore characters and we get
to find out what drives them and makes

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them more important. It makes us
feel for them. So I'm looking forward

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to it for sure. It's the
episode that I think we all thought the

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season was going to open up with. Exactly. Yeah, we thought so

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too. I think we even mentioned
that before we're talking about the podcast,

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that we thought it was going to
open up with the courtroom drama. But

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we were pleasantly surprised, were we
not. Yeah? So, um,

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Wayne, let's let's talk about what
we think are our thoughts and predictions of

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how the season's going to go.
What do you think, Well, it's

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still too early to tell that what
the season's main story is, but um,

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I mean, obviously Number one is
going to be cleared of her charges,

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or maybe not cleared, but she's
going to go back to duty.

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The thing is with this season,
and this is what I what I wanted

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to mention was The writers really have
have the work cut out for them,

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because with season one it was a
breath of fresh air for us. You

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know, we had went through two
seasons of what we what I would classify

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as mediocre Star Trek with the Discovery
season three, which started off great and

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fell flat on its face, and
with Picard season two, which was just

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a disappointment. And then Strange New
World Season one came and it was just

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phenomenal. This was the Star Trek
that we were familiar with. It was

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a home run we've been yes,
that we've been craving for many many years

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now with season two, we it
is airing after Picard season three, which

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was home run out of the park, phenomenal and but just absolutely phenomenal.

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But this series and that are two
completely different monsters, and you know,

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I'm looking forward to seeing what they
have coming up this first episode. If

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they continue on with the quality that
we saw in this first episode, I

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feel that we're in for a great
season of Star Trek. I think you're

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right, man, I'm looking forward
to what they're going to explore, and

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you're right, see stranger in the
world with a breath of new fresh air.

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I mean, we hadn't seen this
kind of Star Trek in a long

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time, and it really felt like
it was recapturing the magic of the original

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Star Trek and Star Trek the next
generation and getting to see some of the

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people we had fallen in love with
over the years, and getting to see

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you had a federation of planets like
we used to see them. It was

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nice to see that again was strange
in the world. So and with Pocar

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season three knocking it out of the
damn park, which it did, Um,

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we're gonna get to see, you
know, some of these characters,

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new characters and old characters getting to
explore strange new worlds. You like that

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and get to get to enjoy some
characters because I can't wait to see what's

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in store for us, Wayne can't
wait. All right, well, um

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open up. Let's open up a
channel. Give us your thoughts, predictions

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and questions on social media, and
I would like to end this kind of

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like this episode did Ford and Schell, who was first through the door and

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showed us the stars hailing frequencies forever
open. If you would like to leave

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