July 5, 2023

Strange New Wednesdays - Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

Strange New Wednesdays - Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

"My advice... don't skip good hot dogs when you can get them."

Welcome to Strange New Wednesdays! David, Wayne, and Scott are reporting from the bridge of the Enterprise to discuss episodes of Strange New Worlds every Wednesday! Join them for a recap...

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Space the Final Frontier. These are
the voyages of Strange New Wednesdays, It's

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continuing mission to explore episodes of Strange
New Worlds to seek out new information and

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new discussions, to boldly go where
no podcast has gone before. Hello everyone,

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and welcome back to Strange New Wednesdays, where we continue to talk everything

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about the current season of Star Trek
Strange New Worlds. Once again, Red

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alert, please be worn spoilers our
heads. If you haven't seen this week's

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episode, please go back watch it
and come back and join us. I'm

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David Byrne, I'm Scott Hoffman,
and I'm Wayne White. Today we are

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discussing season two Episode three tomorrow and
tomorrow and tomorrow. Well, gentlemen,

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I have to say when I learned
this to be another going back into time

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on Earth episode, I kind of
rolled to my eyes thinking how many times

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have we done this in Star Trek. But I have to say I was

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very surprised on how this episode turned
out, especially that twist we get at

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the end of why what they were
there to prevent? But before we discuss

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that, Scott, can you give
us a quick recap of this episode?

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Yeah? Absolutely so. In this
episode we get a unique focus on a

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somewhat unlikely duo, Laon Nunian Thing
and James T. Kirk. After a

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look at a day in Laon's life
as chief of Security, she gets a

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desperate mission from a time traveling agent
and sends and finds herself at an alternate

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reality where Kirk is Captain and the
Federation as she knows it is gone.

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Actually that they travels with Kirk to
a time similar to our own, and

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they team up to stop a Robulan
assassin from making disastrous changes the Earth's feature.

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The journey becomes personal for lat On
as she developed strong few things for

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Kirk, struggles with losing them in
various ways, and I expectedly finds herself

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fighting to save the legacy that continues
to haunt her. This episode shares a

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lot of DNA with classic Original series
episodes like The Space Seat and City on

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the Edge Forever, and quickly establishes
itself as another Drek classic. And it

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does. You know. One of
the things I love about the first three

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episodes of this season is the fact
that Captain Pike has taken a back seat

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to this season. You know,
it's it's kind of a rare thing to

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see that because typically the captain's in
the main character and we see them so

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much. But we are getting to
see so many characters shine and see their

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stories unfold before us. You know, we're getting great character development. And

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we get that with lay On in
this episode, right guys, that's right,

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Yeah, absolutely, And I think
it was very clever in the first

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episode how he took a backseat,
because then that kind of let it kind

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of unfold in a way that we
didn't need to have so much that focus.

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On episode two, we got more
of a focus there. I think

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when we're seeing that continuing episode three, it just it continues to remind me

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of Next Generation, where it's really
a show about the ensemble, and while

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the captain is a focal point,
it's not the only person that can that

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can do everything in the in the
show. So yeah, and we we've

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already discussed like the chemistry of all
of these actors and the characters in this

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show, and they're all fantastic the
other but you know, Lyon's never really

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has not got to share the screen
with Captain Kirk as she did in this

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episode, and I thought their chemistry
was phenomenal too. You know, the

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people who have casted this show have
just gone have knocked it on the park.

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But one of the things that I
really like this and Scott you touched

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on this in your recap is you
know, we know lyon in the we

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know her relationship to con and what
he has done, and you know she's

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living with what he has done,
his legacy. We get to see her,

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you know, build up with all
this anger and frustration and all these

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emotions just bottle up inside of her
and clearly they come, you know,

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boiling out there at the end,
which we'll get to that because that's like

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one of my favorite scenes of this
episode. Yeah, same here, But

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um, you know, I I
think we needed this episode with her.

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You know, we've seen her around
the ship. You know, she's in

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charge of security. I think one
of the coolest scenes was there at the

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beginning when she was dealing with security
problems around the ship. I thought that

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was kind of funny. And getting
to see Commander Palia again. I love

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her. She shines every time every
single scene. I mean she doesn't know

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what two episodes now and barely in
those at that, but every scene she's

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been and she has been awesome.
Yeah, she was hilarious. It was

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great seeing her again and learning a
lot more about her. We got to

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see a little bit of her past
that it was just it was a fun

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scene. Uh. We got to
say she she suffers from kleptomania. Um,

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she stole a painting from the louver. Um, that's just and she

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uh back in the round our time
she owned antique store. It was it

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was It was great fun. It
was but but but Wayne, clearly they

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are not stolen, that's what she
said. But that was a copy,

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that's right. Um. But yeah, Scott, I think you mentioned last

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episode that we would probably get some
of her, didn't you in this episode

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when they went back in time,
and sure enough we got it. I'm

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pretty sure you've mentioned that and you
were right. Yeah. I suspected.

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Yeah, just because she had kind
of dropped that nugget. Um again,

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kind of reminds me of Guidance character, you know, living in the past

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and getting little glimpses of it,
kind of being connected connection to that when

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we get the chance to do so. Um. I thought it was a

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lot of fun that the uh,
the door to her to her place in

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Vermont had archaeology department but she couldn't
started it too much in the middle when

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she started painting it and she had
to break it weirdly in the middle of

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the word a word nerd thing there. But yeah, no, she she

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absolutely does shine. She does a
great job of having that kind of eccentricity,

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and that mystery continues to unfold because
they go expecting an engineer and she's

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like, what, no, I
have an archaeologist. I don't know anything

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about that, but it does sound
interesting. Yeah, and Kara Kane is

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just so good and everything she does, she just brings such a comedicus great

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comedic timing in this series. I
love her so much. Yeah. What

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do you guys think about Paul Wesley
as James T. Kirk. How do

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you think he's going I think he's
doing fantastic. He's not trying to copy

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William Shatner. Yep, He's putting
his own take. But every now and

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then a little bit of the original
Kirk comes out, you know. You

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hear it in his voice sometimes in
his mannerisms, his movements, So he

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is channeling Kirk but his own way, and we got to see we got

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to see a lot more of him
and some of the things that Kirk does.

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He loves hot dogs. He's never
he's never driven a car, but

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I will say one thing he learned
really quick how to drive that car.

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Andy. He's an expert of chess, which I don't think that's ever been

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brought up on kirk sister. I
never don't think I remember him ever playing.

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Well no, wait, he did
play it in the pilot episode,

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play the three dimensional that's right,
but I think it lost because he even

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mentioned that one dimensional chess is super
easy or something like that. Yeah.

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Yeah, I think that was a
pretty cool then how he went in there

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just to earn money and wipe wipe
them all out. Yeah. Now,

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I think it's really cool that we
haven't necessarily seen this timeline's true Kirk yet,

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Right, we've gotten the at the
end of the last season, we

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got an alternate Kirk. Here we
get an alternate Kirk. I think it's

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a great way to start to slowly
introduce the character by never really revealing the

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true Kirk yet, because it helps
kind of laid the foundation for you know,

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this doesn't have to be exactly William
Shattner's Kirk. Ye, well,

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it can be its own. It's
that's probably a good idea. I don't

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know how close they want to stick
with the continuity. But in um,

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the original series episode of The Menagerie
with the one would that show the scenes

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for the pilot, Kirk mentioned only
having met Pike once or twice before.

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So and I hope that they don't
use Kirk too much after all this series.

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I don't want to see him too
much, but I would like to

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see him again. Yeah, I
complete, because I mean, we know

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Kirk's story. We don't need to
go over and over and over and over

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and again. This is Pike's story
in his career, you know. And

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then I want to keep it that
way, and it seems like that's where

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they're focusing on it. I don't
mind him coming back like that from time

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to time. So and again,
Pike didn't see him in this one.

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It was it was lay on,
so you know, it fits perfectly without

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it. Yeah. Um, so
someone let's talk about some other episodes,

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I mean, other scenes in this
episode. What do you think about the

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relationship between those two, Um,
where it was building over the episode.

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I thought it was a good touch. It wasn't forced. The scene I

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think where they were in the hotel
room and she couldn't sleep and basically got

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up and walked into the other room
to see him on the on the couch

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and then she walks away, and
then he wakes up and looks over and

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she's gone. I thought that was
pretty cool touch. Yeah, I think

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it's interesting how he's able to,
like his personality, is able to draw

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a little bit more out of her. You know, around everybody else,

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she's very closed off. She's gone. Yeah, aside from you know,

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Una and a select few people,
you know, and we've we've seen her

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kind of grow and change, but
in this one, he's able to bring

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a little bit of something out of
her that kind of maybe let some of

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those defenses down. And yeah,
that's a great moment when she kind of

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walks out of the room and you
know, I think she might want to

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talk to him, and then it
was just like nope, no, close

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it down and and back off.
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to have a little bit of fun, you know, when they're when they're

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stealing the clothes. I thought that
was kind of a yeah, an interesting,

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interesting party, and she brought a
lot of emotion to this episode.

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Jumping to the end when she meets
Khan, the younger version of Khan that

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was incredibly powerful. She just did
a phenomenal job at acting that. I

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mean, you know, she she
had the chance of changing everything, of

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getting rid of all the problems that
that name, that person has brought to

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her. But she knew that she
she couldn't kill him. I mean,

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she couldn't, you know, allow
him to be killed by the Romulans,

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because, you know, even though
it was a bad thing, eugenics war

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had to happen. It had to
happen because Earth had to rise out of

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that, it had to be discovered
by the Vulcans, had to become part

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of the Federation, a golden Age
start. Even though it was bad,

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she knew that this had to happen
and she couldn't allow him to die.

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But you put yourself in her shoes
at that moment, and the things that

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are running through your head on all
the things that you can prevent if you

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just assassinated him right then and there, or you allowed the Romulans to assassinate

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him right then and there. That's
a lot to deal with. But you're

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right, Wayne, I mean,
you had to let all that happen.

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And she realized that you know,
it's unfortunate all the lives that are going

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to be lost because of him,
but you had to make that choice because

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you know how things are going to
turn out, and you couldn't let that

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happen. And you see that a
lot in time travel series. It's the

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classic go back in time and kill
Hitler. Yeah, it sounds like a

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great thing to do and prevent all
the deaths during World War two, but

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just think of what happened after War
two, how the world has shaped and

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formed after that. You know,
doesn't mean that the changes will be good.

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Yeah, well, I can't tell
you. I don't know what you

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guys, But them to assassinate Khan
was not on my radar on how that

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was going to happen. So when
that happened, that are you kidding me?

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They caught me by surprise on that
one. You know, they had

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me so geared towards this terrorist attack
that about the bridge and all of that

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stuff, and then going after them
what was the not an engine but the

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reactor, the reactor. Yeah,
they were going after the reactor, and

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so they had me so focused on
that, which is exactly what their intention

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was in writing this. And then
when you discovered that the Romulans are not

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there to kill let me destroy,
that they're gonna kill Khan. I'm like,

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what that was a twist, great
twist. Yeah. So, I

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mean, I think when I started
watching this episode, there was a moment

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where I watched the recap of last
episode and saw all the things that she's

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saying, and then I stopped to
watch those two episodes that I mentioned before,

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Space Seed and City on the Edge
Forever before watching this, and it

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was interesting having to kind of east
Kes they dropped in there and having a

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kind of notes that kind of called
back. But in watching that, just

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thinking about that scene where she has
the length of a long haulway to think

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about what's happening and to consider that
decision. You know, it's not just

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kind of like a decision she's presented
at the end of the door. She

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knows what's probably about to happen.
She has some time to think about it,

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and I think she wrestles with,
you know, the morality of the

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decision of killing a little kid,
and you know, knowing that it will

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not save her future, it will
just create a worse one. Because she

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knows that killing the monster doesn't kill
the ghost. She'll continue to be haunted

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by that, she won't be able
to reconcile it. She'll just know that

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she's basically running away from it by
allowing it to collapse. I think that

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was a very smart decision. It
made me want to kind of look at

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that map when it said the reactor
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I was like, well, what
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a fascinating place explorer. But um, yeah, that was a That was

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a great emotional moment for her,
knowing that even when she's standing in Khan's

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room holding the gun and I don't
think she has any intention of shooting him,

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but she's like, you know,
Harry, I'm meeting this person with

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for the first time, with a
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symbol of violence. So a very
interesting scene and a great twist on this

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because they were building up to like
it's got to be a big explosion,

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a big exact or a big thing, and then nope, let's try this.

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So so interesting it really was,
and you know, um, we

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can go ahead and talk about some
of her favorite moments. I'm gonna I'm

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gonna jump ahead of you guys on
this one. But um I mentioned earlier

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about the ending, which is one
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and you know, that's uh,
when Leon finally breaks down. You know,

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she's in her quarters and she is
obviously missing Kirk, you know,

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of what had happened. You know, she saw him die, so she

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you know, reaches out through the
Kirk and her reality and you know,

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he answers and stuff like that,
and she just makes up the story that

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you know, she was checking on
some security reasons for her brother or his

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brother, excuse me, and you
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hangs up that communication, that's where
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you know, crying just uncontrollably,
you know, her her shell has finally

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come down. Yes, she's by
herself, but we get to see all

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these emotions that have just built up
that she's you know, guarded herself from

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everybody, that she finally just has
to release it all and we get to

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see the truly on right there.
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I mean, I know, so
much stuff happened in that episode. There's

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a lot of good scenes, a
lot of great moments, but for me,

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that right there defined her. It
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she I noticed that she cries in
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the way that I was interpreting it. You know, that's the you know,

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I've I've had those kind of breakdowns
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you've been holding your breath for so
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so long that it's not just you
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open up the gates and I finally
start. It was a lot of like

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catching breaths and a lot of deep
breaths and things like that when it's kind

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of like Okay, I can finally
let go and I can finally take a

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breath, but I'm still a little
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let all of it out at once. Yeah, that that sense of relief

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that both of them that are alive, that the timeline is intact, but

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also just you know, it even
starts with that scene with Ambenga, which

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I thought was a great little nugget
when they're starring and he's like, can't

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you just let this out? As
your doctor, I'm letting I'm asking you

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to do so, and she's like, no, I'm not going to buy

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and here's a moment when she finally
allows herself to just a little bit,

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but not all the way. I
think it was really well done. Yeah,

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way about you. Well, you
know, time travel episodes are a

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very important part of Star Trek.
They've all had them, they all have

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their great episodes. But what I
liked about most about this episode was not

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so much a certain scene, but
and this is what surprised me the most,

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is that they really made the effort
to connect this episode, this series

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to the past series, especially Star
Trek Enterprise. I mean the Usually you

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don't see these new series wanting to
connect to the Burman era of Star Trek,

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but this episode was just packed full
of references and continuity instances. Right

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at the beginning, the fight with
the Transporter Chief that lawn was breaking up,

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the one the Transport chief himself was
a new a Danubelian. That's was

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what doctor Flox was is the same
alien race from Star Trek Enterprise. And

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then of course we got quite a
few mentions to the temporal Cold War,

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which was a huge storyline in Star
Trek Enterprise as well, which they never

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really finished that storyline. They never
were really able to conclude that because the

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series was canceled, so I actually
have a feeling that this is the first

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act of what we're going to see
more of, more of this. They're

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going to try to maybe close out
a little bit of that story, maybe

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not follow what they originally wanted to
do, but bring it out. And

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then plus, you know the time
Traveler that went was jumped into the future

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where Lan got the device from the
time travel device that used the interface,

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the t car's interface that was actually
designed for Star Trek Voyager when they were

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they because that's where they told the
temporal cold War really started. That's where

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we first saw the first bits of
it. And bravo to the production designer

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this series of actually going back and
making sure it connects and looks just like

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what they did in Voyager. And
then of course, you know, at

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the end, we got to the
Apartment of Temporal Investigations. They appeared in

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Deep Space nine and uh, they
were investigating Captain Cisco when he went back

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in time and messed with Kirk and
the Tribles. It was a great episode,

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yeah, but there were there were
so many great little little bits connecting

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it to the whole Star Trek and
we got to hear. I think this

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is the first time that Kirk's hometown
was actually ever mentioned on screen. I

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think it was mentioned in the books, but on screen, Um, what

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was it? Riverside? Riverside?
Yeah, yeah, some of those easter

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eggs I didn't catch Wayne, So
wow, fantastic job on that. Yeah,

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that makes me want to watch Enterprise
a little before. This is something

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too. It also brings back from
to the last episode, and this actually

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rather surprised me. Um, you
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had mentioned about the eugenic swar.
I told you about the eugenicy swar that

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and it happened in the nineties,
from ninety ninety six. Well, here

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in this episode they referenced that it
happened somewhere between the twenty thirties and the

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twenty fifties, and I was wondering, you know, there that's some difference.

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that it happened in the nineteen nineties,

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but now they're saying that waves from
the Temple Cold War have has actually

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altered history and has changed the time
that the eugenic sport happened, has moved

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it about fifty years. I guess
that that brings it from now. It's

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no longer in our past, is
now in our future, so they can

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kind of even pans out to the
way stuff looks today. Interesting. So

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the Easter egg that I caught,
which I don't know if it's an intention

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for an Easter egg, but um, and I'm not sure it's not for

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Star Trek, but for a fan
of an eighty series TV series called Voyagers.

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The time traveling device that Lion has
reminds me of the Omni, which

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feenis bug used to travel through time. Oh yeah, you know when and

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when the Omnis read it means history
is wrong, it's right. I like

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that. Yep. As soon as
I saw, like, oh hey,

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look at that Voyagers, so so
go ahead. I thought that was an

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interesting point to mention. And when
in Sarah's speech how she says it was

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supposed to happen in the nineties and
she's been trapped there for thirty years,

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I think that that's a cool callback. Having just watched the Space Seed and

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having them talk about you know,
this happened in the ninety two and also

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the kind of stuff, but it
helps to kind of explain, you know,

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again, this is a slightly different
timeline so there are some variations that

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we can just you know, accept
and move on. But they're they're taking

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care to kind of tidy up some
of those things, which was I think

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it's a really well, really smart
way to go about that. Yeah,

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and it doesn't surprise me with the
all the ships and all the captains that

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keep traveling back in time. It's
it's surprised. It doesn't surprise me at

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all that time has changed a little
bit, right, right, right,

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it would have to. I'm sure
I'm probably gonna know the answer to this

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question. But which characters shine the
most in this episode? For you guys,

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Wayne, Oh wait, this is
Lawn's episode. So we continue the

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trend of centering an episode for each
character. We get spot. We have

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Una now it's it's line. Um. She spent ninety five percent of this

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episode with con Or with Kirk,
and Um, I just I've not seen

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this type of emotion come from this
actress in this series. It's so great

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to see these characters now finally getting
the time to shine and the time to

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act their socks off. And she
really did. Yeah. He kind of

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taking me aback with her performance in
this because you're right, she hasn't had

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really an opportunity to just take over
the screen like she did in this episode.

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Scott and Yugreen. Yeah, absolutely. I mean this actress has shown

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a lot of range. Like it
keeps bringing me back to the storybook episode

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where she was a very indifferent character. But no, she really stands out

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in this one very powerful performance and
you know, at the same time a

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lot of fun. Um, you
know, I was I was thinking that

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the time travel episode would be a
little bit more fun, which I think

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it was. But it was a
nice balance of not making it completely you

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know, um kind of poking fun
with time travel, but making it having

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it have some serious implications, you
know, to the timeline, but also

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some some growth for her character.
So I think it was very interesting.

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I'll be interested to see what happens
when she meets Kirk next, even though

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it might be another alternate version of
him, It's going to be awkward a

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little bit. Um, If you
could be any character in this episode,

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who would it be and why?
Scott, I'm going to go with one

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of the security officers cataloging Pelly's collection, Just gonna go with a random there,

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But um, I'd like to see
what else what else is in there?

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And you know what you know,
not only kind of like, oh,

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that's an interesting item, but the
story that she has behind it,

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or the story she makes up about
it, whether or not those things are

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fakes. And yeah, oh Opelia. I mean look at her. She's

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she's having a great time on Earth. She gets to spend three four hundred

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years watching some of the best events
ever happened in Earth's history. And um,

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and she's stealing paintings and collecting things. I mean, what's better than

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that? You know, I really
think it's fantastic. I'll tell you what's

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better than that being James T.
Kirk and sharing a kiss with lay On.

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That's what that would be my choice
anyway. No, but good,

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good choices, Scotten Wayne, very
good choices. I like those. Um

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so um. Next episode. Episode
is at four right, yes, yes,

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among the lowest eaters. What do
you think this is about? Looks

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like another self contained story. What
do you think do you get the cast

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back? The at least majority of
the cast seem to be in it.

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Looks like a very very intense episode
and very special effects heavy. So I'm

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expecting a lot of action, a
lot of a lot of fun. It's

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We've had two episodes that we've been
very light on visual effects. Ye,

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so this is gonna be a big
one. I think. I think this

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is probably going to be an important
episode for the series. Yeah. I

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think in one of the scenes that
I saw from the load of theaters,

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they Pike mentioned something about Spock bleeding
out or something. Yeah, I'm like,

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WHOA, what's going on? Yeah, what's going on here? So

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yeah, it looks like there's some
serious stuff going on for sure on that

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planet that they're on. Yeah.
So m so I was thinking around a

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little bit and apparently it's Rachel seven. It has some kind of connection to

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Pike's past. It might be something
that we see before Bearded Pike that would

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be at the beginning of season one. Maybe wrong, but Rachel seven.

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I believe that was where in the
cage the very first episode star Trek.

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I think that's where he went and
he thought some monster. We did see

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scenes of him on that planet.
Just should be interesting. That's interesting,

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and I guess a little bit of
not to spoil anything, but we were

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to get a spoiler when I looked
up Lotus Eaters because I was trying to

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see it does that have some kind
of connection to Star Trek, not that

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I could find, but apparently in
Greek mythology it was a race of people

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that were living on an island,
and apparently after they ate the lotus,

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they'd forget their home and their loved
ones and long to stay with the fellow

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lotus eaters. So apparently it's something
that hasn't I was thinking it would be

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something with amnesia, so we'd get
you know, like it seems to focus

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on Pike and Archtagas specifically, so
maybe they'd kind of forget who they are

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and maybe we'd get a little bit
more into their kind of raw personalities.

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But it might be that it's not
amnesia, it's more of um, you

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know, apathy, like with Spock
bleeding out, if you know, kind

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of like the the Serenity movie where
they just kind of, you know,

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start kind of giving up and just
letting things happen. SOE like it would

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be very interesting, definitely action packed. Yeah it does. We can see

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more Pike looks like, so yeah, welcome back Pike. Yes, all

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