Jan. 2, 2024

1976 - Logan's Run

1976 - Logan's Run

"Run, Runner!" Jason Colvin of https://www.thesurelypodcast.com/ joins Jeff in the 23rd century to discuss the last film in our limited "1976" series, Logan's Run; starring Michael York, and Jenny Agutter! For plenty of exclusive episodes and...

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Jason Colvin of The Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast joins Jeff in the 23rd century to discuss the last film in our limited "1976" series, Logan's Run; starring Michael York, and Jenny Agutter!

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No, I'm going there. You
don't have to die, you can live

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live. I'll last day Capricorn twenty
Nine's the Year of the City twenty two

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seventy four Carousel begins. Hello everybody, and welcome back to nineteen seventy six.

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It's a limited series from a film
by podcast. We're taking a look

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at some of the iconic films of
nineteen seventy six to share some history about

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the film's production, some underrated moments, and the words that matter. Today's

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episode will be our final entry in
the nineteen seventy six series, and I

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am happy to invite one of my
favorite guest hosts back to the show on

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loan from the show You Can't Be
Serious Podcast, Mister Jason Colvin. What's

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up, Jeff? How you doing
tonight? Man? Man, I am

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doing great. Speaking of great,
you indeed just released an incredible episode.

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Will you tell our listeners a little
bit about it? Due to our demand

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from Patreon members, we have this
Patreon group and we put out a poll

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and we said, hey, what
do you guys want to hear next?

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And basically it's a pick which one
and they overwhelmingly chose top five songs from

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nineteen seventy eight. And so we
did that and we went through and it's

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got you got rock, you got
some great you know, you got rock,

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you got pop, you've got disco, you've got you know, classic

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stuff, and so there's a lot
of music to go through right there.

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And we had just a great time
doing it. But I'm you made my

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day because you were like, man, you solved a twenty year old mystery.

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Yeah, listen. I first off, it's a fantastic episode. It's

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one of those where I was I
was jumping in and out to load my

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Spotify because as you guys are dropping
your your your choices, I'm adding them

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to like a Shirley Says playlist that
I'm creating. And I got so excited

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because there is a song I have
been trying to figure out who who it

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was for at least twenty years.
I heard it one time, I loved

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it, and then amazingly enough,
I never heard it again on the radio.

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And every time I would try to
to to inquire about it, I

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would try and you know, I
know, I knew it as the Saxophone

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song, right and everyone was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

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You're crazy, you know, Whisper, Yeah, exactly, and I'm

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like, no, it's not careless
Whisper. But lo and behold you and

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D both choose you're number one,
you happen to have the same number one

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song and find as soon as you
queued up that little saxophone, I about

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ran off the road because after twenty
something years, I finally knew I was

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about to hear who sings this song
and what the song is. And I

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was finally able to add the song
Baker Street to my playlist on Spotify.

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And I could not thank you and
D enough for solving the mystery. That

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makes me feel so good. I'm
so happy to hear that. So that

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was fun, and thank you for
that. Well. Listen, we've dropped

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back to nineteen seventy six only so
that we can blast forward to sometime in

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the twenty third century. Logan's Run
is up next. Imagine a world where

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you can have the fulfillment of every
fantasy, the absolute atteinement of every wish.

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MGM presents the first motion picture of
the twenty third century. Logan's Run,

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a journey through a fantastic world beyond
imagination. Imagine a world in which

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you need never be alone. You
touch a switch, turn a dial,

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and the perfect lover steps in your
arms. Welcome to the twenty third century,

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the perfect world of total pleasure.
There's just one catch. I'm a

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friend. I understand. We all
go crazy once in a while. She's

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a runner and it's over run.
Logan's Run created VG. It's based off

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the novel Logan's Run by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson right,

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directed by Michael Anderson, who's a
pretty good director. And let's talk about

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this. So we're in the twenty
third century, Jason, because right off

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the get go we get one of
these great title cards. Sometime in the

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twenty third century, the survivors of
war, overpopulation and pollution are living in

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a great domed city, sealed away
from the forgotten world outside. Here,

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in an ecologically balanced world, mankind
lives only for pleasure, freed by the

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servo mechanisms which provide everything. There's
just one catch. Life must end at

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thirty unless reborn. In the fiery
ritual of Carousel, Man, I don't

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know about you. That all sounds
fantastic until you get to that last tagline

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of there's just one catch. Right, and the novel was like twenty one

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right, yeah, a lot.
You didn't have a much time in the

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novel. And that's just one of
the things that really, you know,

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had this this film dragging its feet
for quite a while because in nineteen sixty

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nine, MGM had Robert Redford lined
up to play Logan. But they're struggling

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to get the script right, and
the real concern is that they'll miss out

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on the current popularity of sci fi
that was created by two thousand and one

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of Space Odyssey and Planet of the
Apes that came out the year before in

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nineteen sixty eight, right, right, But yeah, I don't know about

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you, man, but when I
was a kid watching this, my opinion

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was why you got to run?
You know, you had thirty years,

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you had a good life, because
old age except your old age, guys.

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No, I look back down.
I'm like, thirty, that's life

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hadn't even begun at thirty. Come
on, I know, I know,

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you know. I'm glad we got
to talk about this one because I had

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seen this, Like I honestly think
the last time I saw this was like

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a Friday night at eleven o'clock on
old public television like, you know,

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on a seventeen inch television with wow, a fuzzy signal, you know,

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that type of thing. It had
been since really early in the eighties since

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I had seen this one, So
to revisit was a lot of fun for

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me. Watching this. I'm startled
by how much difference between there is between

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this movie and Star Wars, which
comes out just just a year later,

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I mean less than a year even. It is amazing thing because let's I

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gotta be honest, I want to
give credit where credits to Logan's Run is

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just visually stunning. Yeah, okay, and this is a perfect time for

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me to, you know, let
me brag a little bit more. Let's

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let's let me get a little let
me get a little technical here for you.

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So, Logan's Run is the first
film to use Dolby stereo on seventy

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millimeter film. Wow, and the
subwoofers known as baby booms. They weren't

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included until the following year, when
they were used by Star Wars and Close

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Encounters of the Third kind. So
Wow, get in great sound, but

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that that earth shadowing boom that you
didn't get in Logan's Run. It's just

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one year later. With two of
the other greatest sci fi movies of all

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time, but I mean Logan's Run. It did get nominated for three Academy

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Awards Best Art Direction, Best Cinematography, which it didn't win those two,

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but it does. I need your
help here, So it wins won Academy

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Award for Special Achievement. Yes,
what's going on there? Okay? So

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the Special Achievement Award is an Academy
award given for an achievement that makes an

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exceptional contribution to motion picture for which
it was created, but for which there

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is no annual award category. Okay, So, like the movie does something

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great, but there's no award for
it. So they just like the placeholder

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is special special achievement. Then that's
what it sounds like to me. So,

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like, this is really awesome.
You did a great job here.

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We don't really have a category for
it, but we want to recognize your

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achievement for what you gave. You
did great. We don't know what it

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is, but here's an award.
Okay. Yes. This was inaugurated in

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nineteen seventy two and has acted as
an award for categories that don't exist,

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like visual effects and animation. There
you go, oh, okay, okay.

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So because you know the Academy Awards, they change over the course of

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several decades. So basically this is
kind of like Visual Awards, Best Visual

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Awards before visual words exist in there. You go, yeah, okay,

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all right, that's awesome man.
Well, thank you, thank you for

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the education. This this moment brought
to you by the Shirley You Can't Be

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Serious podcast. Now, you know, all right, let's let's talk a

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little bit about this cast because it's
you know, there's not a whole lot

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of faces here, but definitely some
some famous ones. Michael York in the

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title role Logan know, he's Logan
five. You and I had just talked

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about the girl who plays Juliette in
Romeo and Juliet. We covered Black Christmas,

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Bob Clark's Black Christmas, and Amanda
Janek was a guest on the show

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right talking talking about Black Christmas starring
Olivia Hussey. Yeah, and you and

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I had talked about our experience of
watching that movie with our class in high

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school. Yes, you got the
uncensored version that was popular among all the

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ways. But Michael York played Tibalt
in that in Romeo and Juliet that version

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of Roman way he was in the
sixty eight version with the Hussy. Yes,

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holy cow, I had no idea
there. I mean, he's timbalt.

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I love when one episode kind of
kind of leads into the next episode

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unintentionally. That's that's fantastic. I
love that man, right. The role

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was always intended for John Voight,
And after he takes a look at the

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script, he goes, he passes. He says, this is too strange,

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this isn't for me. Uh huh. Could you imagine John Voight in

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nineteen seventy six running around you know
this is? Yes, yes, I

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think so. I like Michael Yorke. I think his acting ability is great.

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I wanted my logan to be a
bit more heroic, right, Okay,

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I want him to be a little
bit more taller, a little broader

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shoulder, a little tougher. So
John Voyd kind of feels that guy,

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especially in nineteen seventy six. Okay, different different uh, different movie with

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with uh With Voight, I would
think, yeah, a lot much more

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American. I think, you know, much more American. But maybe I

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don't know. I don't know if
it's as fantastical like it feels like it's

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a little more real, something like
John Voight. Interesting. So if you

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if you had your if you had
your pick, you're sitting in the studio

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and you got you got, you
got an eight x ten of York in

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front of you and a void.
Grab John Voyd. I'm grabbing John Voight.

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Yeah, okay, Well let's talk
about uh grabbing Jenny Agator as Jessica

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six. Let's talk about grabbing Jenny
a get her happy, happy belated birthday

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to uh miss Agator. She you
told me the other day she just turned

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seventy one. Yes, that can't
be right, man. She is gorgeous.

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She it's it's impossible to think,
like in my mind, she's always

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Nurse Price. She's thirty years old. That's it. Yep, she's forever

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Nurse Price in an American were from
London, Yes, yes, but I

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don't know what you know. When
you revisit Logan's run, Jessica six definitely

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gives her. He gives Nurse Price
a run for the money. In my

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book, you know, I well, I can't wait. I can't wait

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to talk about costumes because Jenny Agner's
costume is something to behold in this movie.

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I've got something on the costuming.
I do want to get to that

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here in a little bit. But
so here's one other thing I want to

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talk about, with the role of
Jessica six. Yes, Jenny Agater,

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the runner up. She was not
the first choice. She gets the role.

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She gets the role because she has
amazing chemistry with Michael Yorke. But

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studios, first and foremost, they're
looking at Lindsay Wagner, the Bionic Woman,

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the Bionic Woman. Yeah, and
obviously she goes, you know,

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she doesn't get this job. She
goes on to become the Bionic Woman the

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same year this movie is released,
in nineteen seventy six. You know,

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she had been on The six Million
Dollar Man in like a two part episode

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before this. Yeah, you know, yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't

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get Logan's run. She goes back
to television. They're like, hey,

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we got we got a TV series
for you, and what a TV series?

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Oh yeah, yeah, and that's
not that's not the first seventies TV

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star we're gonna be talking about here. Nope, I got I got.

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Let's let's let's move on to the
next one. Because Farah Fawcett in a

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very very limited role here as Holly
thirteen. Right, but what a stunner.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, I
said your text the other day it

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was, I mean, Jenny Agator
greater than Farah Fawcet. And I did

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not standing alone on that one.
No, you are not. You are

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not alone on that. The tail
of the tape, I'm gonna, I'm

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna always back
Genny Agator over Farah Fawcet. I listen,

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that's just how it is. Uh. I'll tell you who disagrees with

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this though, is Michael Yorke.
So there is a fantastic audio commentary if

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you pick up the DVD or the
Blu Ray version of Logan Down. So

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on the commentary track, Michael Yorke
actually takes credit for discovering Farah Fawcett.

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Really yeah, now, and he's
playful. He's not. He's not,

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you know, he's not like stuck
up about it. He's just he's being

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playful on it. But he's he
basically he shares his story. He he

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claims he was playing tennis when he
saw quote a blonde vision of delight.

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So he goes over, he you
know, introduces himself. Then he goes

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back to the studio. He suggests
her to the casting director. Casting director

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takes one look at her, says, she's got it. She's got the

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role. So wow. And here's
what's here's what really gets weird. I

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mean, during production, she lands
another role that basically turns her into a

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superstar, television superstar. Right,
yep, she's this is when she gets

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Charlie's angels. Charlie's angels. Let's
think about this for a second. We've

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got a a sci fi film that's
in production. Lindsay Wagner's in the conversation,

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Farah Foster's in the conversation, and
both these women have breakout superstardom on

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television the same year this movie comes
out. That's that's incredible. I think

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I think they I think they got
a big push off of this movie.

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Now that right? Oh oh yeah, Well here's the question. Where's Linda

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Carter? Right? Oh wow?
Oh man? Wait? Who you okay?

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So who you? Who? You
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Holly thirteen or or or Jessica six. When it comes to Linda Carter,

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she can have whichever role she wants. She could be Logan, right,

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I don't care. But I think, I mean she could. She

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would have been amazing as Hollly thirteen, right, she would have been yeah,

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you know, and I love that
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that little moment with Farah where she
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You know, she's basically at this
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getting his face changed, and you
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whispers in his ear. She's like, I like dark hair. Time to

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give you dark hair? Like yeah, yeah, men with men with dark

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hair Rejoice Nation with Parafocet says I
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mean think about this. She was
married at the time. She was married

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to Lee Majors. Yeah, so
I think she's credited as Parafocet Majors when

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she does this. I think you
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She is credited as uh As Fawcett
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a little tidbit for you on parafacet
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we actually discovered this when we're doing
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Penny Marshall got her start in like
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like the the ugly roommate. Yeah, we talked. We talked about

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this. Uh, we actually talked
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for Awakenings. Yeah, okay,
there you go. Yeah, share the

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story though, share the st Well, So Penny Marshall's like the ugly kind

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of you know, I say ugly, she's the homelier roommate that Yeah,

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she had the chair had like it's
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I think it's only girl. That's
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just me and her her unfortunate pairing
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It's fair faucet. Yeah, how
about that. Yep, we have

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to talk about seventy superstardom as television
stars. You know, seventy super There's

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there's a lot of seventies superstardom in
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Yep, let's talk about a couple
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Okay, so we can't. We
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is the he's the villain of this
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the very talented Richard Jordan. I
got it. I got you know you

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you you said it a couple of
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and I crack up think it laughing
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but we only know him from one
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talking about. He's his uncle Howard. He's Brantley's uncle from Secret of My

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Success. This is the guy that's
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the Secret of My Success. And
when you go back and you see the

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young version of Uncle Howard, you
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shooting them or terminating their life forces
as it were. Right, Yeah,

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Richard Jordan, the great Richard Jordan. I know he's I mean,

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you know he was in Rooster Cogburn, Yes, and I think he was

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in like some some really popular TV
but I don't know. Yeah, I

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got something for you, Okay,
So he was. He was the first

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actor I believe to play Dirk Pitt. You're kidding me. No, he

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plays the Clyde Custler, the Clisler
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He goes to Aarah. Yeah.
Yeah, so he plays Dirk pit and

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raise the Titanic. I can't believe
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that McConaughey was the first guy to
go to the screen with that Richard Jordan.

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There you go. We have got
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that's that's got to be. I
think you can watch it on YouTube.

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It's really cool. It's it's fun, man, and it hits all those

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sort of Indiana Jones ish adventure type
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one more thing. Have you ever
seen there's a movie from nineteen eighty

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five, I believe with Kurt Russell
called The Mean Season. I've heard of

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The Mean Season, but I've never
seen it. Man, I gotta tell

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you. It's just one of those
HBO movies that really fascinated me. Kurt

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Russell is playing a newspaper reporter and
he's got the serial killer, serial killer

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that's reaching out to him and telling
him all the details about his killings.

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It's gripping, man, and like
Kurt Russell's trying to help the cops find

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this guy. And the killer is
Richard Jordan. So uncle Howard the serial

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Killer, yeah means you. Okay, all right, So I've got two

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movies. I got two Richard Jordan
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you what. I gotta give you
credit because you picked up on another famous

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face that I every time I've watched
this movie, I've never even picked up

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on it, and it's probably because
of the makeup involved. But can you

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tell me who's playing the old Man? So? The Old Man is played

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by Peter Ustinoff. Yes, okay, Now, this guy's been an actor

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for a long time, but you
and I know him from some early eighties

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classics. Yes, and I can
tell by the way he talked. I'm

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like, that is the dude in
Great Muppet Caper who missus Piggy's trying to

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hitch a ride from uh so should
get to the Mallory Gallery in time?

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Right, my favorite Muppet movie?
Sent you said me that screenshot from from

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Them Up a Caper? I'm like, what am I looking at? And

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You're like, it's the old band
WHOA Yeah? Mind blow? Uh that

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was a that was a mind blower
when I saw that. Guys, for

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let's say about this for the brief
time. He's in this movie, you

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know, and he's he's a little
you know, he's a little battye right,

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Yes, he's been a hermit for
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he hasn't seen anybody. Yes,
yeh, I got I got a credit.

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You know, he does he does
unhinged, but in a fun way.

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I think he does it really well. Okay, I've got I've got

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a couple of other nuggets for you. I just there. I'm dying to

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tell you these. Okay, yeah, roll them out. Okay. Remember

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you and I were talking about the
original robin Hood the other day on our

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Fraser podcast. We were Yeah,
because the guy who does the voice for

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robin Hood played Edward, the guy
who was hitting on Marty and Fraser.

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Anyway, it's just kind of a
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In robin Hood, the voice of
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the guy who is the old man
from Logan's Run. Okay, so

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you've got to be kidding me,
the old classic Disney animated Peter uh robin

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Hood. Yeah. So that's that's
that's that's the second Disney's robin Hood connection

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you've created on a podcast, right, I can almost feel like there needs

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to be an episode. I don't
even know how we'd covered or what it

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is, but there almost needs to
be like a a Robin Hood. Uh

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you know Da Vinci Code episode we
need to crack. I've got one more

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thing for you. I got to
tell you. I'm Peter Stuff. I'm

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sorry, I'm taking up so much. You are the no you are the

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uston Off expert. What else you
got? Okay, so early HBO,

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there was a movie called Charlie Chan
The Curse of the Dragon Queen. Yes,

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and it had it was like Michelle
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Okay, Ronnie McDowell's in it.
It's this kind of zany adventure. But

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the guy who plays Charlie Chan is
Peter ustaof so you're telling me Usanov.

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Not only does he play Chan,
who is one of the famous uh you

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know, mystery novel character. Yes, I see. I also know he

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played uh Herkule Parrot in several movies. I think he's even the Death of

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the Nile he was Hercule Proro.
Yeah for sure. Man, How does

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somebody so white play somebody so Asian? I don't know that. Yeah,

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that's not happening today, I know. All right, Well, listen,

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we hope you're enjoying the the Peter
Ustanov podcast. But we gotta we gotta

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talk about one last one, last
amazing individual. This one blew my mind

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when I figured out who was behind, who was underneath the the armor,

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so to speak. But uh,
we get one of cinema's creepiest robots.

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I think, uh, yeah,
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But I don't know about you,
man, but he he When I

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was a kid, he creeped me
out even then, just the way he

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looked, the way he moved,
the way he sounded, the way his

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mouth moves. Yeah, oh yeah, Uh we're talking about uh Roscoe Lee

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Brown who played who played the role
of Box. And this kind of surprises

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me. This is a situation where
they put this man in that costume and

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it's it's top Yeah, it's top
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moves up, moves around the set, he could easily topple over.

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Yeah, like you tell me,
you can't get a stump man to move

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around. Just let let Roscoe Lee
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any sense, man, I don't
know. Amazing. I know this is

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not the first time we talked about
this guy. Think about this, Jason,

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the very first time you and I
were together on a podcast. You

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joined us for our limited series nineteen
eighty six and we were covering Legal Eagles,

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which, of course, yeah,
Rosco Brown. Yeah, he was

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the judge going up against Debwinger and
Robert Redford. That's great, great nugget

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right there. Man. Yeah,
he was busy, like yeah, we

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talked about Rosci Lee Brown twice at
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you, it was Jumping Jack Flash. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,

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he's in Jumping Yeah, he's busy
in eighty six, man, busy in

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seventy six, busy in eighty six. This guy was always working. I

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love this guy. That's cool.
I know we got to take a quick

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break. But I feel kind of
Jason, I kind of feel bad.

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We're talking about all this stuff.
We're talking about all these people. We

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really didn't talk about. Michael Anderson. I know, Michael Anderson, the

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director, right. Yeah, So
he does a what I think is a

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wonderful Jaws knockoff. The next year
it's Orca with Orca the Killer Whale.

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Yeah you remember that one with So
that's in nineteen seventy seven, but listen

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to this in nineteen sixty he does
a movie with Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood.

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Yeah, oh called All the Fine
Young Cannibals. Now, if you've

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ever heard the song she Drives Me
Crazy by the Fine Young Campbells, Yeah,

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that's where they got their name from
this movie. I absolutely dig the

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fact that you're bringing that Shirley the
Sureley. You can't be serious stylings to

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this show because it's giving us a
little bit of a street cred. It's

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giving us a little bit of it's
giving us a little bit of class.

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You're classing us up here. Man. I like it. Hey man,

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I'm just I'm just here to drop
nowt against where I can. So let's

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take a quick break and when we
get back, we'll be talking about we

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gotta talk about the costumes, and
we got to talk about some other behind

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the scenes stuff. Here, Mercy, your shampoo? What a roommate?

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Can't you ever buy your own stuff? Well, Lucy, I'm not exactly

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dressed to go to the store right
now. How convenient head and shoulders.

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I know it really works against your
dandra, but what about my gorgeous hair?

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Your gorgeous hair will love it.
You know. It is the best

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selling shampoo in America best selling Dandriff
shampoo. You mean best selling shampoo of

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any kind because it hates your Dandriff, but it also loves your hair.

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I use it regularly. Wells,
okay, some kind of ladder too.

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Know what I think? You think
you look adorable? Not just that time.

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I think your shampoo did a terrific
sexy number on my hair. I

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love it. I'm glad. Now
you could buy the Head and Shoulders.

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We're out, Okay, gonna borrow
some money. Head and Shoulders hate your

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Dandriff, loves your hair. We're
back talking with Jason Covin from the Shirley

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You Can't Be Serious podcast. Jason, you you made a brief mention about

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the costumes earlier. Yes, yes, So let's talk about Bill Thomas.

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He's the costume designer on Logan's Run. Practically everyone on set, everyone on

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screen that you see is in red
or green. If you look really close,

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you could see a little bit of
yellow peppered in there. Uh huh.

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Do you know? Do you know? What? Do you do?

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You know anything about the colors?
Do you know why we see those those

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specific colors? No? Tell me? So this is interesting and this is.

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This is from the book. They
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but basically the colors of the clothing
denote a person's age. So okay,

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see we see Logan and Francis.
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Logan be born. At birth,
you got get the crystal in your palm,

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so you know, that's that's the
cool thing that you know, when

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we talk sci fi, everyone in
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crystal on the palm of their hand, and it's a certain color. So

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at birth, your crystal is kind
of clear and then turns yellow. So

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from birth to age twelve, you
wear yellow clothing. And if you go

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back and watch this movie, you'll
notice that everyone that's in yellow, they're

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kids basically. Okay, you don't
see a lot of them walking around,

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but you know, because you know
when they get a carousel. This isn't

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for children to watch, but yellow
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twelve, you turn twelve, and
then from twelve to age twenty four,

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you wear green. Okay, so
you know, like like Jessica six,

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you know, the lovely Genniagutor.
She's in green. She's about to face

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out of green, obviously, because
from twenty four to thirty that's when you

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wear red, and then when you
turn thirty, your crystal starts glowing because

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that means you're up for renewal,
your time's coming right right, And that's

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the whole that's the whole point of
these the clothing where you see everyone's in

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red or green. Mostly that didn't
it's their age, like, you know,

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here's the here's the the twelve to
twenty four's, here's the twenty fours,

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00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.640
the thirties. I love, there's
there's there's a reason for the colors

399
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.759
you got. You gotta say,
like, you know, obviously, she

400
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.920
has mentioned several times she was not
a fan of her clothing. Who's that,

401
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.880
Jenny agultor Jenny Jenny Agutter. Yeah, I mean, let's think about

402
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.640
it, man. I mean,
first off, everyone is moving around.

403
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.799
I guess they don't wear underwear in
the future, nobody wears any under nobody.

404
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.920
Yeah, these are very revealing.
This is very revealing clothing. It's

405
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.480
almost it's almost like a futuristic like
it. It reminds me of kind of

406
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:47.480
like the Roman era, like with
the togas, how like fabrics were just

407
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.799
kind of draped across people. This
is kind of like the life in the

408
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.400
twenty third century. Yeah, I
think that there. I think their costumes

409
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.519
adds to the fact they're very youthful
and everybody's a track active and young and

410
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.759
vibrant, you know, and I
mean, heck, nobody's wearing any underwear,

411
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:10.519
and it's just it's a very youthful, party like feel to it.

412
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.160
You know. Well, let's and
let's it all goes back. It all

413
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:17.400
goes back to that that opening title
screen you see where at this point in

414
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.759
society, we are living for pleasure, right, you don't have to worry

415
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.920
about anything, so just have a
good time. I love the fact.

416
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.160
Let's talk about the circuit for a
quick second. Okay, this blows my

417
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.519
mind when you go back and watch
this now it's online dating and it was

418
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.640
created in nineteen seventy six. Yeah, that's you kind of right about that.

419
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.559
Yeah yeah, yeah, So Logan
he's a sandman, you know.

420
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.279
He right, they're basically they're like
the military, right, they're the police

421
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.599
force. You know. Well,
he goes home, he wants to relax,

422
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.400
and he wants some companionship. Right. So he gets on the circuit,

423
00:31:55.519 --> 00:32:00.160
which basically it's almost like a teleportation
device, and he's you know,

424
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.480
he's just like skimming the channels,
right, And we gotta we gotta talk

425
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.039
about the fact that Logan's run kind
of acknowledges the sexual revolution of the sixties

426
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.799
and seventies with this scene, and
you know, and the casual acceptance of

427
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.200
homosexuality, because the first option he
gets is this really handsome guy. He

428
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.000
smiles. Logan smiles back, but
shakes his head in disapproval, and the

429
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.039
guy's like, all right, I'll
you know, see you next time.

430
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.039
You know. He keeps surf he
keeps surfing the of the circuit and here

431
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.200
comes Jessica and he's quick. They're
like, hey, let's let you know.

432
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.440
The second that he realizes she doesn't
want to jump in bed, the

433
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.200
first thing he does is like,
oh, do you prefer women? You

434
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:43.079
know, this is very progressive type
of scene. Yeah, very progressive.

435
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.000
This is nineteen seventy six and the
movie studios were not so free about,

436
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:52.599
uh, talking about this kind of
stuff. So I think that's one of

437
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.240
the things. Yeah, that's one
of the things I think when you go

438
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.839
back in cinema and you kind of
see like where did where do our acceptance

439
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:06.400
for beliefs and things start to start
to take place. You got to give

440
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.920
Logan's Run credit for being open about
it and being accepting of it. I

441
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.920
think, Yeah, I think you're
right, and it does seem very modern,

442
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.519
especially for a movie that's nearly fifty
years old. To online order an

443
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.920
escort of your choice, you know
exactly. I'll tell you what doesn't feel

444
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.640
very modern when you watch this now. I mean, don't get me wrong,

445
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.119
it looks cool. Yeah, but
we got we got to talk about

446
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.559
the setting, right. I think
you told me, like, we're talking

447
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.440
about this a couple weeks ago,
and you're like, Okay, so we're

448
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.960
in a shopping mall, Jason,
what can you tell us about the locations

449
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.599
that they Yeah? So I text
you the other day. I'm like,

450
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.519
Okay, clearly we're in a mall, right, no doubt about it.

451
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.960
You can see the escalators, you
can see the storefronts. Well, come

452
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.799
to find out that is all in
Dallas, Texas, right, And I'm

453
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.559
pretty relatively close to Dallas. Yeah, And I texted you, man,

454
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:07.719
I'm like, Mann, I gotta
get down to this place so I can

455
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:14.199
check this out. It's actually called
the World Trade Center Mall, which is

456
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:19.239
kind of a you know, strange
but strange name. Right. It's actually

457
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.559
not open to the public anymore,
which is kind of a bummer. I

458
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.000
it's some sort of I don't know
what they use it for now, but

459
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:30.119
it used to be just this giant
mall in Dallas. So that's that's that's

460
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.199
wild. Is this Is this the
only place in Dallas that they're filming.

461
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.960
No, so there's a couple of
other places. I think there's a place

462
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.280
called Dallas Dallas Market Center, which
serves as the outside of the Great Hall

463
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.400
Building. Okay, you know where
they're coming out there. They're kind of

464
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.039
walking outside on the stairs and stuff, and they're talking, which actually their

465
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.679
hair is blowing, which is kind
of funny for a dome city. That's

466
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.400
a dome city. You know,
they must have good central air, I

467
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.559
guess right. And so that building
you can just right walk right up to

468
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.199
it. So I'm like, I
need to get down there to check it

469
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.119
out. But the main place that
I want to go is do you remember

470
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:09.400
at the end when they have to
when uh Jessica six and Logan five they

471
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.400
have to dive into that pool to
kind of re enter the city or the

472
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.280
dome city. Yeah, you know
what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

473
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.960
he makes that that that really he
makes that Tom Cruise legend dive.

474
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.840
That's it. Yeah, Well that
is just a like this kind of cool

475
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:30.000
fountain area in downtown Fort Worth.
You're and you're this closed to all these

476
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.639
locations. I am just a mere
three hours away from all these locations.

477
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:39.079
So we need we need, we
need Jason covin on on a location scout.

478
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.880
We need to we need to see
some of these like you know you

479
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.119
did it. You did that.
I know you've done that before with the

480
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:50.760
Outsiders and uh and Rubblefish. You
gotta you gotta give us some some information,

481
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.760
man, we gotta we gotta see
some like here's what it looks like

482
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.280
in the movie. And here's where
I'm at today. Dude, I'm gonna

483
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.960
I'm gonna go down. I'll give
you some Logan's Run stuff. I'll give

484
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.000
you some Row of Coops stuff.
It's be great looking forward to that.

485
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:07.760
I hate to do this because you
know, I never want to make you

486
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.559
unhappy, but I got I got
something about this movie that I think is

487
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.119
gonna make you unhappy. Okay,
tell me now, let's think about this.

488
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.920
I think it's fair to say that
Ginny Agator is h We see a

489
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:28.599
lot of Geni Agator and most of
nearly everything. Yeah, but and this

490
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:34.800
is a PG rated film that's shocked
now by the way, it's shocking.

491
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.280
But here's the thing. Several scenes
had to be cut to secure the PG

492
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.920
rating. U huh, so you
know, and you know this. I

493
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.760
think a lot of our listeners already
know this. But we wouldn't have the

494
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.119
PG thirteen rating until nineteen eighty four
when when Red Dawn gets it right.

495
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.360
So they had to make some cuts. Otherwise this would have been a rated

496
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:59.159
R film. So there's a scene
at the arcade that was cut because it

497
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:05.360
depicted uh, lucinatory drug use.
And sadly, a much longer scene in

498
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:14.079
the ice cave was cut due to
the extensive nudity of Geniagutor. Uh remember

499
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.760
that creepy you know, remember Box
the Android. He he has all those

500
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.039
all those people frozen, those runners
were frozen along the wall. Yes,

501
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.960
so you know, and this is
all lost. This film is gone,

502
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.000
like we're never going to see it
now. It's it's it's lost time.

503
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.039
It does not send anymore. Yeah. But uh, basically, Box,

504
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.559
the Box, the Android, the
the trick he has to get these people

505
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:44.840
is he he wants to create ice
sculptures. So in the original cut,

506
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:51.480
when when Logan and and Jessica are
still kind of covering themselves with the the

507
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.840
the furs, you know that the
bear skin, Yeah, they're they're you

508
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.280
know, they're they're they were freezing. They were soaking wet, so they

509
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:02.280
stripped off their clothing. They they're
trying to warm up. Box basically asks

510
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:07.679
them to pose like holding each other
so he can create a nice sculpture.

511
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.119
And that's when he's supposed to like
shoot that, you know. You know

512
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.519
he had that weird like mister freeze
gun that he was trying to shoot at

513
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.199
him. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's when he's supposed to shoot him,

514
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.440
you know. But they basically were
like, Hey, I don't think this

515
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.840
is gonna work. You know,
we're seeing we're seeing way too much of

516
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.119
Ginny aigitor. So so I texted
you. I texted you the other day

517
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.800
as I was watching this. Of
course I hadn't seen it, Like the

518
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.800
last time I had seen it was
on television. But I could not believe

519
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.079
how much nudity was in this movie. And not only just nudity, but

520
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:44.360
like when they're going through the love
shop. Yeah it oh who feels nearly

521
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:50.039
pornographic even though you don't really see
a whole lot. They they did a

522
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.639
great job of blocking that scene to
where you know you're looking at something but

523
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:01.519
because someone's shoulder is right there or
someone's you know, bag, yeah play

524
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.440
yeah, they it's you know we
we we mentioned uh York and Austin Powers

525
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.039
and like that. You know,
they that movie's famous for doing that.

526
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.000
At the end, you know this
one, you're kind of like you slow

527
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.320
down and you go, WHOA what
am I seeing there in the background?

528
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:20.239
You know, but you know you
had they had to be careful, and

529
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.599
you know, between that scene the
love shop and and Jenny running around,

530
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:29.760
this is a pretty amazing not as
as close to an arc as you can

531
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.559
get and still say PG in nineteen
seventy six. So yeah, and with

532
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.880
my parents as long as I said
PG that that was like a full green

533
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.800
light And this would be one of
those where I'd be like, well,

534
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.079
PG, can I go see it? Yeah? It's funny, like you

535
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.199
know that that's a that's an era
in movies that will never happen again.

536
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:52.440
I remember the first time I saw
Clash of the Titans. You know,

537
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.880
like two million of the movie.
There's there's persons in his bomb and she's

538
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.119
not wearing anything. Yeah, hey, this is PG. It's a bit

539
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.519
you know, that's right, it's
natural exactly, Jason. Let's take one

540
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.239
last break and when we get back, we got to talk underrated moments and

541
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.360
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546
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547
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.079
Jason. It's not your favorite scene. It's not the scene that was

548
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.719
in the trailer, but without it, the film's just a little bit less.

549
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.480
Anything come to mind for you in
Logan's run like an ununderrated moment,

550
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:01.440
underrated scene. I don't even know
if I can call it underrated because it's

551
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.480
so important to the movie. But
the scene when Logan goes to get a

552
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.159
new face, okay, good and
so he you know it, it's so

553
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.280
tense, right, and you know
that this you know this this doctor is

554
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.760
you know, kind of working for
the other guys, and and he's getting

555
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.760
ready to be lasered up and and
you don't really know what's going to happen.

556
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.880
It really is a tense scene.
I don't want to tell everybody what's

557
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.519
happening. And then of course you
end up with fair Face and Jenny Agutter

558
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:37.000
wrestling, you know, so you
got lasers going everywhere, and it's just

559
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.280
it's just a great scene. I
that's one I wanted to bring intention to.

560
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.119
I love it. That is a
great moment. Uh yeah, I

561
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.480
drop two nuggets on you about that
scene. Yeah. Yeah. So first

562
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.679
off, guy plays a doctor,
that creepy doctor. Yes, that's the

563
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.800
director's son. Really, yeah,
he's got hey yeah, don't don't bother

564
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:05.320
look up as his filmography because it's
this interesting. Okay, that's a good

565
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.199
night. Yeah yeah. And then
when you go when you went back and

566
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.480
watched this, did this does this
feel familiar when you were watching this this

567
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.159
scene in question, did you were
you watching it? Going, Hey,

568
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.440
I kind of feel like I've seen
this before. I mean, yeah,

569
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.840
maybe a little more recently. Watch
this scene, because if you go back

570
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:31.000
to Pierce Brosnan's Die Another Day,
they took a lot of inspiration for that

571
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:36.719
torture scene and Die Another Day where
he strapped down. Think about it,

572
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:42.760
think about those two moments. It's
wow, someone was someone popped in Logan's

573
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.960
run to say, how we're gonna
block this scene with Bond. Hold on,

574
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.320
let's let's take a look at Logan's
run and another y that's great.

575
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.360
Yeah, very similar, Yes,
a very similar situation. I think when

576
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.199
I when I think outerrated moments.
One, you know this movie, this

577
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.159
is a sci fi action film,
so it's it's it's very tense. It's

578
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.400
you're always you are literally on the
run with these characters. One moment that

579
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:13.440
I really appreciate is the first instance
where they get outside the Dome city and

580
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:21.000
they see the sun for the first
time. What is it? I don't

581
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:32.519
whatever it is, it's floor.
Yeah, I think that's such a beautiful

582
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:38.000
moment. You know Jessica six,
she's like just awe struck and She's like,

583
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:44.599
what is that and and he says, I don't know, but it's

584
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.679
warm. Yeah, And it's such
a beautiful moment because, like they think

585
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.159
about this, if you've lived your
entire life inside a dome city, you've

586
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.039
never you don't know what the sun
is, you don't know what the planets

587
00:43:54.039 --> 00:44:00.280
are. This is their first chance
to see the outside world. And that

588
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:01.960
that first son that they see,
that first setting sun that they see,

589
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.079
I think, I think it's just
a beautiful moment. I love that moment.

590
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.000
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm
with you. That was a great

591
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.639
moment. Absolutely. How about words
that matter? So you know, on

592
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.519
nineteen seventy six we always talk about, you know, our favorite lines,

593
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.559
memorable lines, you know, are
they still relevant today? You know?

594
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:27.199
In nineteen seventy six is littered with
some classic, some amazing quotes. You

595
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.159
know. We were just like the
last episode we were talking. I was

596
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.039
talking with Andy Tom. We're doing
Taxi Driver, and everyone knows, you

597
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.239
know, even if you haven't seen
Taxi Driver, you know the line are

598
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.119
you talking to me? Right?
Right? Right? For everything that this

599
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.280
movie gives us, I feel like
it doesn't give us great quotes. There's

600
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.639
no there's no catchphrase, well there
are. There are not a lot of

601
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.760
great lines in this movie. There's
nothing really that stands out. There's not

602
00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:00.079
a are you talking to me?
But the scene where where he's you know,

603
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.239
basically been given his mission by the
computer, like you are going to

604
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:10.920
go find sanctuary, okay, yeah, and she deducts years from his from

605
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:16.239
his crystal yes. Yeah, and
he's like, wait, I just lost

606
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:20.239
my four years. I'm getting my
four years back, right, Peter,

607
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.719
Silent. I'm getting my four years
back, Silent. And so to me,

608
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:29.920
that was really really a tense scene
and impactful. That is such a

609
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.880
great moment. I didn't even think
about that one. I gotta I got

610
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.280
a tidbit about the computer though,
for you, now that we're talking about

611
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:37.920
it, Yeah, okay, talking
about you now that we're talking about your

612
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:46.880
scene. Initially, the computer's voice
was a very male, robotic voice,

613
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.280
okay. And they made a conscious
decision, like in production they're like this

614
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:58.159
doesn't feel right. You know,
Logan and Francis and all these all these

615
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:02.480
sandmen who were respondsible for keeping order
in the city and you know taking you

616
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.000
know, if people try to run, they take them out right, right,

617
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:13.280
so the idea that they're going to
take direction from another male, they

618
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.599
didn't feel that that that really worked. And they thought these guys with with

619
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.280
the the power that they have,
the only person that's gonna really get through

620
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.800
to them is a seductive female voice
that's more like a that's you know.

621
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.679
The idea was like, it's there
are the computers offering suggestion, and then

622
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:36.360
the samon like, yeah, absolutely, that's that's what I'm gonna do.

623
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.199
So there's actually one of the one
of the characters, one of the one

624
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.559
of the one of the actresses that's
in the movie. You see Francis actually

625
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.360
uh you know, Uncle Howard actually
kills her. Yeah, okay, and

626
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.400
they brought her back. I apologize
because I don't remember her name off the

627
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.320
top of my head. But she's
the voice of the computer. They said,

628
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.920
hey, would you do the the
voice work for our computer. The

629
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.440
actress actually has two. It's in
the movie because she plays the runner and

630
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:07.679
then she plays she plays the computer's
voice. That's good. That's really that's

631
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.480
a great nugget. I'm wondering if
it's that one who is wearing the red

632
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.320
that logan kind of helps I think, so I think that's how the blows

633
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.559
her away, blows her out of
it. Yeah, I think that's her.

634
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.800
Okay. I feel like if I'm
taking orders from a superior and it

635
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.679
has to be a computer, h
give me, give me the give me

636
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.840
the soothing female voice, I'll feel
better about doing my job. Right,

637
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.440
Yeah, totally. You know Carpenter
Mousta felt that way because he had was

638
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.360
it Jimmie Lee Curtis doing the computer's
voice and Escape from New York so uh

639
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.880
yeah, and he had Adrian Barbo
doing it and the thing there it is

640
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.199
the way of the future, soothing, seductive female voices telling us what to

641
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.639
do. That's right, Jason.
We got to talk prequel, sequel,

642
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.440
remake. Yes, let me lay
let me lay something out for you here.

643
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.480
Okay. So I don't know if
you know this. There was a

644
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:07.039
TV spin off that aired on CBS
from September nineteen seventy seven to February nineteen

645
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.199
seventy eight. And this is perfect
because we we just mentioned John Carpenter.

646
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:20.519
Donald Moffatt played an android on the
show who was like a guide for Logan

647
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:25.519
and Jessica. Donald Moffatt office obviously
from the thing has great, that great

648
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.199
moment. You know, if you
guys don't mind, I don't want to

649
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:36.199
spend the rest of this. Yeah. Wow, sadly not know that,

650
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:43.440
Yeah, sadly. In nineteen seventy
seven, Android's on television, played by

651
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:49.360
Donald boffittt looked exactly like Donald Boffett. He's just Donald Moffatt in like a

652
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:54.239
jumpsuit. So yeah, it was
canceled after fourteen episodes, with the reason

653
00:48:54.320 --> 00:49:00.400
for the cancelation being quote, hey, we didn't have Star Wars money,

654
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:06.239
eh, there you go. Yeah, I mean, you know, this

655
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.239
comes out in seventy six. Star
Wars hits the screens on seventy seven and

656
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.800
everyone, you know, industrial light
magic blow the doors off everyone's expectations.

657
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.400
So when you're watching Star Wars and
you see the laser guns kicked back,

658
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.679
you have the cool sound, and
you have the instant effect on the wall

659
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.880
or whatever. This it's like they're
like pop guns. You know, it's

660
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.880
like fizzle. Yeah, you know
your wire over there? You know slow

661
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.960
motion? Yeah, York was he
said that. York on the on the

662
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.440
commentary track says he mentioned that they're
kind of gas powered, and he said

663
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.000
they would do the motion, they
would pull the trigger and aim, and

664
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.800
then they'd be like a delayed reaction. And that's when you watch the movie.

665
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.840
They're like they're very animated, like
shooting, and then like a like

666
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.559
a second later, it kind of
fizzles and pops out and just looks.

667
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.320
It doesn't look it does not look
good. I'll tell you what would have

668
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:08.920
looked good. Joel Silver and Warner
Brothers attempted to remake Logan's Run in nineteen

669
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:15.719
ninety seven with Leonardo DiCaprio. That
would have been that would be my money,

670
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.719
Take my money, please, DiCaprio
in ninety seven, this is like

671
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.599
a this is like what a year
after he does Romeo and Juliet. I

672
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:29.559
mean he is age appropriate, he's
a superstar. I mean ninety seven,

673
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.519
that's Titanic Leo. You know that's
Titanic Leo. How I don't know.

674
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.920
If you're Warner Brothers, you've got
to be kicking yourself, like, how

675
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:40.079
did you miss that opportunity? You
know? Brian Singer went into development on

676
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.079
a remake in two thousand and four. It failed. A lot of people,

677
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.280
A lot of directors have been attached
saying, hey, I want to

678
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:52.840
remake Logan's Run in twenty fifteen,
Hollywood's bright idea was to make Logan a

679
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.159
female character, because you know that
we had the success, We had all

680
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.159
those female driven movies like Hunger Games
and Divergent, Right, so they thought,

681
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.800
well, hey, what if Logan's
a girl? Right? No one's

682
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.199
got it right yet, So let
me ask you. Let me see if

683
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.920
Jason Colvin gets it right. Your
pitch to the studio. What are you

684
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.880
gonna do with Logan's Run? Are
you gonna do a prequel, a sequel,

685
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.159
or a remake? Okay, Jeff, I don't say this lightly,

686
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.519
but this is a movie that is
right for remake. I'm not I disagree

687
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.320
with you. It's an excellent story. You need to update the effects,

688
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.199
you need to update the actors.
All of this translates to today. This

689
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.039
would be a box office hit,
in my opinion, if they would hire

690
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.440
the right people, do the right
you know, spend the money and make

691
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.760
it right. So here's what I've
got. Okay, When I did my

692
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:49.559
Google search for actors under thirty,
okay, it's a bunch of pretty boys

693
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.960
and I just couldn't really find So
I had to expand my search to actors

694
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.599
under forty, which is not that
big of a reach because Michael Yorke was

695
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.800
over thirty when they cast him in
this movie. Yeah, and she was

696
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.920
thirty thirty two, thirty four,
right, thirty three or four? I

697
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.199
think so. So I want Steven
Ammel, the guy who plays all of

698
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.760
her from Arrow. Yeah, as
logans, I want my guy a little

699
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.519
tougher. I want my Sandman to
be a little edgier. Okay, Okay,

700
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.480
Jessica's six, I'm going after Millie
Bobby Brown. That's perfect casting.

701
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.440
You like it. She's yeah,
she's I think I think right now she's

702
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.320
like twenty two maybe, yeah,
twenty one, twenty two. That's that's

703
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.679
fantastic, man. Okay. And
then for Francis, this is the one

704
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.280
I kind of took a chance on. Okay, Francis his best friend John

705
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:47.320
Boyega. I really love that.
Yeah, yeah, those of you don't

706
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.719
know. That's Finn from the Force
Awakens. Man, I really like that.

707
00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:01.320
For Holly thirteen, I'm going after
Kate Upton. I'm brilliant. Oh

708
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:07.079
wait, can I can I challenge? Yeah? We got Sidney Sweeney.

709
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:13.960
Yeah yeah, I mean that's there's
no wrong answer there. But I was

710
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.159
just saying, I know, she's
I know she's coming out. I know

711
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.440
she's got that new movie out right
now, that comedy, and then she's

712
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.519
got she's gonna be playing Jessica Andrews
and and Madam Webb and Sony's Spider Man

713
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:30.800
Universe. Yeah, she's definitely a
hot ticket right now. I got one

714
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.840
more for you with the old man. I'm going with the old reliable.

715
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:40.920
Give me Russell Crowe. I can
see Russell Crowe for sure being great at

716
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.360
it. But you know, well, hold on, he's fantastic everything.

717
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.039
But I don't know if I've ever
seen Russell Crowe play fun and joyous.

718
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:57.199
Okay, now if you know,
but hey, maybe your logan's run.

719
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.599
He's he's more embittered and you know, tougher around the edges, kind of

720
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.679
tougher around the edges. So you
know, I would I'm thinking someone like

721
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.280
John c Riley. Oh really,
okay, just just let him have a

722
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.679
ball, Just let him get nuts, you know, Okay, think about

723
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.920
think about his goofy character in in
everything he's ever done. Yeah, well

724
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:24.280
wayeah, everything he's done, but
bait more to the point, Skull Island,

725
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.199
calling Skull Island, you know,
the here's what I got for you.

726
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.599
I think we're on the same page. So, after this movie was

727
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.760
a box office hit. The one
of the co authors, William F.

728
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:42.159
Nolan, who co authored the original
novel, Logan's Run, He actually wrote

729
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:47.559
two more novels. He wrote Logan's
World in nineteen seventy seven and Logan's Search

730
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.880
in nineteen eighty. So, Jason, I don't want a sequel. I

731
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.800
want two sequels. Oh right,
yeah, here we go. Let's let's

732
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.239
make a trilogy happen. Well,
let's take your cast, let's remake Logan's

733
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:05.400
Run, and then let's immediately move
into let's get someone like Peter Jackson who

734
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.599
can handle, you know, shooting
a trilogy back to back. Let's do

735
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.280
the Logan's Run trilogy. Make it
happen. I love it, man.

736
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.360
So is Peter Jackson your pick for
director? Yeah, it's gotta be someone

737
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.960
like Jackson because I know we didn't
even talk about this. And apologies to

738
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.079
a film buys Wayne whiteed because he
loves Jerry Goldsmith. But think about Jerry

739
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:32.679
Goldsmith's score where every scene where we're
inside the Dome city his his his music's

740
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.320
very electronic. There's a lot of
keyboards, you know, it's very experimental,

741
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:44.159
and then once we get outside to
the world outside, very sweeping,

742
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.960
very powerful, very orchestral. I
don't know if you picked up on that,

743
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.639
but I didn't notice that, But
now that you mentioned that, I

744
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.559
can kind of feel that. Yeah. Yeah, So when you think of

745
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.599
Jerry Goldsmith's score for this, you
got to think, who's a director that

746
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:01.320
could handle a bad giving us the
entire world, you know, inside and

747
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:06.519
out, And Peter Jackson would definitely
be my choice for this. I love

748
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.800
it. I think you're right.
I mean, he has proven time and

749
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:15.159
time again he can handle epic tales. So yeah, well, let me

750
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.360
ask you this as we wrap it
up here, Jason, out of four

751
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.480
possible stars, what would you give
Logan's run Out of four possible stars,

752
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:30.840
I'm gonna give this one three and
a quarter stars. Okay, I like

753
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.360
it. I really like the imaginative
thinking of this movie. I like the

754
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.400
the idea behind it. The whole
plot is captivating to me. The execution,

755
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:44.519
even though it was in seventy six, is a little bit off.

756
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:52.480
I think they the special effects are
noticeably poor in this movie, but I

757
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.199
in some instances, you know,
in some parts, they do really well.

758
00:56:55.239 --> 00:57:00.840
And the setting's great. I love
the actors. Of course, I'm

759
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:05.679
in love with Jenny Agutor. I
mean, she's just amazing. So three

760
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.920
point two to five I think it
could be done better. I think it

761
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:13.480
with the right person, it would
be an amazing film that needs to be

762
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.320
remade. I'm with you, man, three and a quarter stars that you

763
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:21.239
gotta get that extra quarter just for
Genny Agutter. The more we've talked about

764
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.559
it more, I'm like, yeah, you know, we keep talking to

765
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:27.199
it. It's like, yeah,
this is a four star movie. I'll

766
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.760
challenge a little bit, like I
feel like this is groundbreaking visuals for its

767
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.159
era, and we got to remember
this. This got a Special Academy Award.

768
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.599
I think we look back on it
now and we're we're kind of like

769
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.800
the bar was just immediately lifted because
of Star Wars coming out just a few

770
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.719
months after it. That's fair.
So, you know, in a world

771
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.119
where Star Wars doesn't come out until
nineteen eighty, we would probably look at

772
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:59.639
Logan's run as like the biggest spectacle, you know, when it comes to

773
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:02.519
special I think I think that's fair. I will tell you this. I

774
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.400
watched it on TB. Yeah,
and when they were all going, all

775
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.760
the people were going to Carousel.
M you could see the wires. Well,

776
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.480
that's fair. You know when you
watch this on t B and I

777
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:17.639
know it's available right now, So
if you want to watch this, you

778
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.639
know you don't want to buy a
copy of it. You should buy a

779
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:23.679
copy of it because it looks great
the Blue Jason, the Blu ray looks

780
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:27.800
great. And that sen you're talking
about Carousel with the you know where they

781
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:32.360
didn't really have the ability to hide
though some of the wires track then looks

782
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:37.079
a little. It looks a lot
better on Blu ray. But you know,

783
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.559
if you're watching a free copy on
two, you get what you get

784
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.360
and you don't tell a fit,
right, That's right, that's right.

785
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.599
Well listen, man, I know
what I know. I get what I

786
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.880
get. Anytime you're over here with
us on a film buy Jason, it's

787
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.440
always a pleasure. And with that, I got to ask you, what

788
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:59.800
can we expect from the Shirley You
Can't Be Serious podcast in the new year?

789
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.760
Well man, we are coming up
on the anniversary, the fortieth anniversary

790
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.000
of nineteen eighty four, so we're
covering a lot of stuff from eighty four.

791
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.920
I know we're talking about Beverly Hills
Cop talking about you know, we're

792
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.159
gonna compare that to Beverly Hills Cop
Part two because we know Beverly Hills Cop

793
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:22.519
Part four is coming out this summer. We're doing the Car's Heartbeat City versus

794
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:28.159
Brian Adams Reckless. We're doing songs
from the Big Chair versus Make It Big

795
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.159
by Whim. So we're gonna spend
some time in nineteen eighty four and it's

796
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.639
just gonna be a lot of fun. We hope that you will join us

797
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:38.599
over there at the shirlead Keeping Serious
podcast. Absolutely will let me be the

798
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:44.440
annoying reporter just for a split second. Jason Colvin, any chance you'll go

799
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.039
ahead and give us your your final
judgment between Beverly Hills Cop and Beverly Hills

800
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:52.960
Cop two. What's your favorite?
Uh? No, no no, I

801
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followed from the Banana the tail Vibe. I can't wait to hear that,

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because there's no way you chuse between
those two movies. But I look forward

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to seeing how you're gonna pull that
one off. Man. You are a

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blast every time you're here. You
always bring it, man, So thank

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you well, thank you man.
I'm so glad that you invited me on

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for this one because I love diving
into these old movies that I haven't seen

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but I've got kind of an affinity
for. So this is one I really

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wanted to talk to you about,
and because you invited me, I was

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able to dive into it. So
thank you. Man. Well, all

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right, I do want to challenge
all of our listeners. So if you're

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a fan of Logan's Run, or
you're about to watch it on TB or

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you're about to watch it on Blu
Ray, in the film, there is

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an extra that can be seen holding
up the Vulcan hand salute such we all

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know the livelong and prosper you know
what I'm talking about. If you're a

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Ciela person, all you got to
do is let me know exactly where it

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is in the film. Reach out
tell us and we will send you a

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box full of a film by Swag. Other than that, you can let

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us know what you think of Logan's
Run or our nineteen seventy six series.

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It's done. You know, do
we miss one of your favorites? Tell

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us www dot a film by podcast
dot com, or find us on social

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at a film by podcast, thanks for

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lending your ears. We'll catch you
on the flip side.

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Jason Colvin is the Co-Host of the wildly popular Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. As one of the "Top. Men." regarding knowledge on pop culture, movies, and music of the 1980s, he is always a welcome guest. He has been a featured guest on multiple episodes of our limited "1986" series! Raiders of the Lost Ark, Aliens, and Hot Dog: The Movie are listed among his favorite films!