1976 - Marathon Man

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Argued to be trusted. No can
I trusted to you? You never could.

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You only had to. We're talking
of my safety, candid, Yes,

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I couldn't give a fun h Hello
everybody, and welcome back to nineteen

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seventy six. It's a limited series
from a Film by podcast. We are

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talking about some of the iconic films
of nineteen seventy six and uh, you

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know, kind of sharing some some
fun history, a little behind the scenes,

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underrated moments, of course, our
favorite quotes. I am Jeff Johnson

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and back again to talk about another
gritty film from nineteen seventy six. My

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co host from a Film by Brad
Kozo. Hello, everybody, and thanks

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for being here. Brad, it's
a it's a birthday today. We got

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a we got a birthday in the
house. Dustin Hoffman is celebrating his eighty

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fifth birthday today. Yeah, and
it doesn't seem like it until you actually

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find out a little bit about this
movie. Well, yeah, it's amazing

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because Hoffman does not one, but
two movies in nineteen seventy six. So

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we kind of just said, hey, you know, we technically, brad

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our schedule, we should be talking
about a film by you know, we

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should be picking a director and talking
about somebody, but you know, we

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gotta celebrate Hoffman. So we're gonna
go with not one, but two episodes

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in nineteen seventy six this week,
and we're gonna kick things off with Marathon

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Man. Now, Brad, let's
let's let's begin you know, I know

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we're gonna wax intellectual here. Let's
let's start off with where this, uh,

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this film comes from. William Goldman
writes the book Marathon Man, and

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he's paid five hundred thousand dollars for
the film rights and to write the screenplay.

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Yeah. Um, Goldman was hot
at the time doing um, getting

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the Academy Award for Butchcassing and The
Sundance Kid. His writing was definitely getting

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a lot of attention. Uh.
He was obviously about to score the deal

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with adapting All the President's Men,
which we'll talk about, you know,

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of course later on. Um,
but the book was a very solid movie

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that people wanted to get on,
you know, and it sold very quickly.

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And the chance to get I love
when writers get to do adapt their

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own material into a screenplay form,
and especially somebody that was so good at

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it already. Well, yeah,
absolutely talk about someone else that that's already

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good at their craft. The director
of this movie, John Slessinger. Now

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here's the funny thing. He takes
this job quickly after his last film,

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Day of the Locusts nineteen seventy five. It bombs horribly. I mean,

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nobody sees this, and he figures
he's box office poison. He gets this,

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uh dropped in his lap as the
reviews are coming out for that,

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and he quickly jumps on board.
Yeah, I mean right at the right

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time. He was, you know, big for Midnight Cowboy. But you

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know that was you know sixty eight, sixty nine, you know, and

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you know, all these other directors
were starting to make other things that we're

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doing really well. It was time
to catch up with those guys. So

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with this one he got a chance
to really make that gritty seventies. Look,

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the political thrillers that were just booming
during the seventies. It wasn't just

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this, it was you know,
Three Days of the Condor, the Parallax

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View, you know, all these
political thrillers, you know, with dark

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lights and stuff, so espionage,
espionage, and this one had I felt

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a very um, a great what
if type of plot. You know,

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it gets it sounds a little hokey
today, but if you go to it

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in the timeline that was nineteen seventy
six and then map it all out of

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it is like, this does make
a It does make a great and it

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makes a great villain, you know, a notorious you know, when you

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say we're gonna use anytime you really
say you're gonna use the Nazis as your

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villain, m it intrigues you.
You know, it's just like, oh,

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it's kind of interesting, you know, to to develop into that.

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But you know, it is one
of those movies that Goldman talking, he

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said, very and he goes like, this was the one shot of getting

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your dreamcast at the first shot.
He's like everybody, he goes, we

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wanted Olivier, we wanted a Hoffman, we wanted Schier. And he's like,

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and we got him all. The
only person I was in contention was

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al Pacino, you know, and
he's like I said, he goes,

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you never get what you've written for
on the page, and he's like,

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he's basically written it. I wrote
it for Hoffman. I thought, wouldn't

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it be great? But you know
you might not get him. But they

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got everybody they wanted. Yeah,
because what I can't remember who it was

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that wanted uh Pacino initially, but
I know producer, super producer Robert Evans,

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He's like, nah, I don't
want that guy, you know.

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So yeah, well he's he was
never a big fan of the Pacino um

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Club from the from the from the
get go, but um Hoffman and had

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had had a good track record at
this time, you know, and that

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was somebody he wanted to get behind. And this was Evans's first post leaving

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Paramount as the studio had to produce, so this was one of his first

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efforts of going in and he uh, you know, very timely. By

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using that time, knew who the
right players were. I do, uh,

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I do want to talk about You
mentioned the right players, and I

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got a little tidbit for you on
Evans, but uh, you know again

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with with uh Slessinger. But here's
the good news, Brad, as much

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as I know you probably want to
talk about him as much as I do

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in this in this episode, we
don't have to worry about that because I'll

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remind you we're gonna be talking about
one of his later films um this month.

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Uh you know, because he also
directed Pacific Heights and that that is

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on our that's on our list to
cover this month. So he gives two

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great villains Zelle and Carter Hayes.
Yes, and two great thrillers. Right

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yeah, Brad, I found uh
this is this was interesting to me.

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Um, this is the movie.
This is the first theatrically released film that

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uses the steadicam that was invented by
Garrett Brown. It's uh, you know

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now now granted, um, you
know he shoots I think, I think

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Rocky and Bound for Glory I might. I'm not sure about Bound for Lord,

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but I know he shoots their their
their shot with steadycam, but Marathon

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Man beats them to the box office. So it's it's the first one release.

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So um, this kind of makes
this is a little historical impact for

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this movie, I would, I
would think because it kind of changes the

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uh how films are shot. Yeah, because you're doing a movie about a

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guy running and to make that interesting, to kind of make you feel like

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you're running at the same time with
him. It you know, just imagine

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the movie if we were just seeing
him run side by side with the camera

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just following him. You know,
it would be it'd be okay. I

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don't think it would hurt. But
this makes the movie more more feel like

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you're running with him. You're when
he runs out of energy, you run

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out of andy. You can feel
it when people run out of energy in's

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movie. Let's let's talk about some
of these people. The amazing Sir Lawrence

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Olivier. He is, he's battling
cancer, doesn't expect to live and he

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takes this role. Basically this is
a paycheck movie for him so he can

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leave his wife more money. Yeah. And originally the um, the people

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over where he was I believe in
London didn't want to ensure him because they

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were pretty sure he was so sick. And Evans had to go down and

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convince him that, you know,
because they didn't know if he was going

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to live six months or something like
that. You know, he held on

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for thirteen more years. Yeah,
but Evans kind of got that ball going

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of getting him insured. And you
know, you talked about Robert Evans knowing

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who the players are. It blows
my mind that he has friends with connections

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to British Parliament and he basically gets
some pressure applied to Lloyd's of London to

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ensure someone like like Laurence Olivier because
they shouldn't. But you know, Evans

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knows where the bodies are buried,
man, so he makes it happen.

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Goldman said that he could not believe
that when Robert Evans took over Paramount pictures

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that they gave to this guy,
he'd be like, it's like, you

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know, giving a seven forty seven
to a child, and he's like and

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you know, with no experience,
and he goes and he was wonderful at

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it. Yeah, he was wonderful
at it. Yeah, it's fantastic.

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You know Olivier, you know,
cancer goes in remission. Like you said,

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he lives thirteen thirteen more years this
movie, Brad. He wins correct

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me if I'm wrong. He wins
the Goal Globe for Best Supporting Performance,

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and he's nominated, I know,
he's nominated for Best Supporting Actor. Yeah,

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and it kind of gets his he
gets his name back out there again.

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It shows that he, you know, even sick, can still put

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on a performance, you know.
And he said he was struggling during it,

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half into rap bandages around like you
know, stuff with his legs and

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things like that. They go.
There were some days where he was in

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pain. But man, he he
brought it every day though, Brad,

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do you happen to know who he
lost that best supporting Oscar? That was

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Peter Finch. No, No,
he won Best Actors talked about we're looking

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best supporting. Best supporting was seventy
six. So we haven't talked about him

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yet. How am I not getting
this? We'll be talking about him later

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this week because it was Jason Robe
Barbs. Okay, yeah, okay,

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all the presidents been, okay,
all the president's been. Yeah, yeah,

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Brad, what did you uh?
What'd you think about Dustin Hoffman's performance?

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I thought it was good, especially
the fact that he um mentioned he

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wasn't sure about taking it because he
was pushing forty you know at that time.

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He's you know, he said,
he goes, I was too old

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to do the graduate when I did
the graduate and he's like, and I

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was too old to do this part. He's like, but they said that

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they could buy it of me because
they thought I could do it. So

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if they still think I look young
enough to be in college, then then

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then I'm all for it. So, I mean, he was able to

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do it and look lean and he
looked like a college he's he takes this

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job at I think he's thirty eight
turning thirty nine when he takes this job.

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He looks you know, when you
watch this film, you know he

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was even your first time, you
just you just assumed that he's in his

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mid twenties, right, most likely. You know, it blows my mind

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that he's pushing forty. Um,
you know he and he does look lean

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in this film. You know,
he dropped fifteen pounds by running four miles

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a day, you know. And
they said for all the running scenes because

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you know, Hoffman's one of these
method actors, so he wouldn't just act

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out of breath. He basically would
run a half mile before in between takes

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to legitimately be out of breath.
Yeah, I mean it's a good tool.

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And he looked you know, he
had that runner body. You know,

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he had that figure. It's like
marathon people that run marathons. I

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think they're crazy to just go that
far just just to run for a cause.

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I mean that that's fine, but
they have a specific look and a

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specific figure. And I think he
nailed it. You know, I mean

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all the way down to his clothes, but his not just as physique,

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but the way he runs and stuff
like that. It just it was very

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believable. I think he was he
was great in this movie. Well,

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well, speaking of being out of
breath, you know, like again the

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method acting that that scene and the
abduction scene when they take him and they

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put him in the you know,
he's in the bathtub. Brad, he

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insisted on being held under water in
the bathtub for as long as possible.

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He's quoted, and he's quoted as
saying, let me see how long I

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can stay under Let me see if
I can fight you. Let me see

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what happens. Yeah, Brad,
do you know what happened? He probably

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passed out. Yeah, yeah,
medics had to put him on oxygen after

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the scene because it went a little
a little too far. But yeah,

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he, like you said, you
know, he he doesn't really like the

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novel, which I I'm surprised,
you know, he would be just be

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boldly out there saying, yeah,
I don't like the novel. But he

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wanted to work with Lessenger again.
You know, you mentioned that they did

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Midnight Cowboy, and you mentioned Pacina
was kind of in the in the running

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with this, and they remember they
had that that, um, they had

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that little bit of competitive competitive you
know, they you know, if Pacino

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was interested in something, Hoffman wanted
it and vice versa. And Hoffman,

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Yes, yes, he was a
method actor, but he did put some

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things to rest to saying that.
You know, one of the scenes,

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Olivier asked him, you know,
he was supposed to be up for three

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days, and so he asked him, how did you, you know,

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achieve that? And he's like,
I he said that the rumor is I

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was up for three days. And
Olivia said, why don't you just try

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acting? He said, what I
was doing is I was telling him that

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because what it was. He goes. It was the seventies and we had

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a certain lifestyle on the seventies that
consisted of going to things like Studio fifty

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four. Yeah, he's like,
he goes, so my lifestyle, he

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goes. But I wanted to impress
Sir Lawrence Olivier, so I told him

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I stayed up for three days.
I guess I couldn't do that. Let's

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think poor Selessenger Brad. He's directing
a big paramount movie for Robert Evans,

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so he's already got enough stress as
is. But one of your stars is

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battling cancer and might not survive.
The other is party at Studio fifty four.

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So yeah, I can't even imagine
where his head was at. But

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you talked about this book being like
the hot ticket, you know when it

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was when it was dropped. While
he's on the set filming Jaws, a

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buddy of Roy Scheider gives him the
book. He finishes it in one sitting,

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and he tells his friend Man,
this would make such a great movie,

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but he's disappointed that his favorite character, Doc Levy, divees halfway through

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the book, and ironically he plays
you know, you know, just a

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year later, he's playing Doc Levy. Yeah, and him and Hoffman were

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close. They were a part of
that New York acting troupe. Hoffman had

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roomed with Hackman and was really disappointed
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stuff. So when he got a
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friends, he said, it was
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in this. And the only thing
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scene and I can't believe it's not
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actually shot of of Doc meeting one
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business and somebody that looked up into
and the guy goes to the bathroom the

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protege of his and is killed by
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a very brutal scene of Doc killing
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you know, during the seventies were
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graphic, pretty gnarly. They said
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the violence and I was too much, and it they said that wouldn't hurt

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because they did do a lot of
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was a really good scene. But
all in all, they did have to

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cut it, and it would have
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That's a shame because if if this
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needs, it needs more Roy Scheider. And I got something I wanted to

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talk to you about. With the
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done such an elaborate scene. And
if they're cutting it for the violence,

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man's that's depressing because it, you
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I do want to read the book
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it. I haven't read the book. It's a little difficult to find.

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but I would like to read it. Now. Keep in mind,

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this is this is the seventies,
this is mid seventies. I know.

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One of the controversial things in the
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William Devane. In the book,
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and uh together they're lovers. Okay, they're they're Yeah, they worked together

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for the division, but apparently they're
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only reference you get in the movie
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and he calls him. He says, uh, He's The line is,

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uh, Janey, I miss you. Get your ass over here. And

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you know, when you're watching,
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that? Like? Is that a
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that together, Janey is Janeway And
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thought it was the girl that he
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they when they finally meet up at
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absolutely, yeah, Nope, that's
a big misconceptional docies lie h Brad.

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I want to talk about two other
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Now, this movie opens with a
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Would you uh, would you agree? Oh? Yeah, that's that's about

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as far as you can go with
road rage right here. I mean it's

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crazy, right yeah. Uh you
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you got these two guys. You
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America already. You know, the
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he's he's you know, Laurence Olivier
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He was known for smuggling, you
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out of Germany. But the price
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whatever, you know, right,
Really basically he becomes a diamond smuggler

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um and takes a lot of these
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trying to escape the Nazis, when
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not doing he's he's not holding his
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He is no Oscar Schindler as it
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um aim and gethum. Yeah,
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but give him a densil degree and
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doing the horrors that he does.
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get out of Germany is his brother, and his brother basically has this like

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safe box at the bank with who
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uncut gems as it were. Now
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brother, you know at the beginning, gets involved in a little bit of

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a road rage incident with another driver
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an oil truck. The brother brad
this I got, you know, I

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had to mention this because I was
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brother is played by a guy named
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if you think that sounds a little
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Joseph Spa and he was one of
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century crazy little fact about Bendva Brad. He was on the Hendenburg and survived

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the disaster, and then they burn
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that's out. I mean the irony
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part of this story. The crazy
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of the few survivors, he's investigated
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so that his claim is that he
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dog. That was that was in
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did not survive the Hindenburg disaster.
We'll talk about one other person. It's

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a small role, but as soon
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oh, I know that guy.
Uh can we talk about Fritz Weaver

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for a second. He played he
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a creep show, but from creep
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But what's the segment the crate?
Yep, the crate. That's a

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great segment. Yeah, loved That's
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movie. But Brad, we'd be
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performance as Sir Trevor in our favorite, one of our favorite shows, Frazier.

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Yes, Sir Trevor, that's one
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Uh yeah. So see, you
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uh um, older actors, you
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in their younger day and then you
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fun. We'll talk a little bit
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Brad, we'll talk about the underrated
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faster? It wouldn't be hind thick, rich and delicious? Hines? Catcha

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nothing else is quite the same.
All right, we are back, Brad.

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You talked about the movies. You
talked about this violent scene that got

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cut with Roy Scheider. Yeah,
so apparently the film, you know,

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they do a couple couple showings,
right, and it's going okay, but

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then the film starts getting heavily criticized
for for the violence. So Slesinger ends

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up cutting several close ups when doctor
Cell basically disembowels Doc you know, Wor

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Shider's character. Apparently there's a there's
a scene on the cutting floor where you

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see like his his intestine spill that
gets cut. The torture. This movie

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is known for the torture scene,
the dental torture scene. Apparently there are

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some some graphic close ups of the
drill and the teeth that he also ends

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up cutting. We gotta get I
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dentil scene was um, they were
at nervous about it because they were going

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to see some previews of it,
and and Goldman noticed that the film had

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been out and it was about,
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and all of a sudden, people
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He's like, they're about to get
to some good stuff. Where are you

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going? They were leaving because they
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and they came back after they knew
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so much. This it's it is
such an unnerving scene. Yeah, in

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the movie. Uh, and I
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here coming up, but uh,
Brad you you talked about Goldman, you

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know it. You know, it's
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adapt their own work into a screenplay. Now, the book's ending for the

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movie is changed because it gets an
an uncredited rewrite by Robert Town who yes,

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I mean, if you're gonna get
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brad Yeah, Goldman calls the movies
ending quote shit. Well, the thing

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is is Goldman was at that time
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They couldn't really get around it too
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book, and number two, he's
William Goldman at that time. You know,

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he has the cloud. Who can
they get to possibly duty rewriting,

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which was because of Hoffman not wanting
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the original ending is is that he
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torturing him. And the only other
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Town. You couldn't get Paul Straighter. He was busy talking doing taxi drivers.

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We will talk about later. But
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said, this competitive thing between Pacino
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was between Robert Town and William Goldman, because he had already just come off

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of Chinatown, produced by Robert Evans, basically got that movie going on that

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nobody wanted to do because they thought
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Town gotting the Academy Award. So
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yeah, Gret, They're like,
oh, we can't get you. We'll

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get your your alter ego, your
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I don't mind so much the the
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like I think I like Goldman's ending
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little bit of a cop out,
except that the what he makes him to

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do with the diamonds, I think
that is genius. Oh gosh yeah.

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I mean in that moment you're,
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to pocket some try to steal them. I think it works. The torture

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of him throwing the diamonds into the
the you know, the waterworks, you

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know, bit by bit, that's
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no, everything when he makes seem
say you can keep as many as you

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can swallow. Oh yeah, that
makes swallow just one and just like the

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dental scenes. You as you're watching
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You feel that comfortable, you know, every and this is a movie surrounded

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by things that people can identify with, people can identify with swallowing something that

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you shouldn't have, or going to
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know that as he's going this gulp, you feel that kind of itch in

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your back and going down, like, oh man, that's gotta be awful.

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So I really like that, But
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point he had already taken out,
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so what would one more do to
him? You know? I mean,

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I think I think he should have
all Right? What about you like the

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new ending or do you would you
go with that? I? I like

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the I like Robert Town's ending only
because it's it helps keep um babe,

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you know, dust dustin Hoppin's character. It keeps him grounded as your protagonist.

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you know like, okay, he's
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Levy, I think life goes on
for him. So and the idea of

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him being led away in handcuffs by
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I get it's the seventies and and
we want angry stories, and it's and

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we want these downer type endings.
But I'm happy to see, uh,

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I'm happy to see Hopping, you
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know. Yeah, Evil is punished. He would have killed the most notorious

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Nazio of all time. I mean, he's wanted by the government. Yeah

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he's. Yeah, but he's not. He's not his older brother Roy Scheider.

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He's he's not working for the Division. He's not a secret agent,

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he's not an assassin. He's he's
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a doctorate in history. So,
Brad, it's not the favorite scene,

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it's not in the trailer for the
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is less. What is, in
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film. That's a tough one because
I'm I'm tossed up between two get one,

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figures it, or at least he's
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out here in the middle of nowhere
where no one can hear us? You

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know, it's it's like, once
he puts it all together with her,

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I think that's my favorite seam.
And she's like, how did you When

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did you know? And he's like, I didn't you just told me.

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I Like that's such a powerful moment
as well. Yeah, because like at

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this point she is definitely a question
mark, especially given uh an earlier scene

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which we'll get here in a second, but you know, he makes this

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this dynamic escape and who there's not
there's not like a whole lot of people

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you can call. You know,
his brother's dead, right, he has

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nobody else. Elsa doesn't come to
the rescue, and then you find out

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she's she's working, she's working with
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depressing for him because you know,
this is this is the girl. You

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know, this is this is his
girl. You know. Yeah, he

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was smitten and uh it is not
meant to be that. Yeah, her

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her look of you know, when
how long have you known? Yeah?

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And you really you kind of you
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much like you hated the uh the
girlfriend towards the end of the verdict,

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like just like oh yeah, you
know, just like how could you It's

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like you knew something was up with
her. But what, in your opinion,

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is your most underrated scene in the
movie. Well, we're gonna we're

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gonna talk about Elsa. We're gonna
keep talking about her, because I think

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the underrated moment for this this film
is when Doc takes Babe and Elsa to

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lunch. You know, he's in
town to help stop uh, you know,

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help stop sell. At this point, Dustin Hoffin's character just assumes his

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big brother is like in in the
oil business. You know, he's like

408
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.599
an executive. Um, but he's
he's he's a he's a he's he works

409
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.960
for the division, you know as
uh. I think it's Janeway kind of

410
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:51.640
explains it as what the FBI can't
do and what the CIA doesn't want to

411
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.359
be bothered to do. That's where
we operate, you know, and we

412
00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.640
work for who we want to UM. So when Doc takes Ustin Hoffman and

413
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.119
his new lady friend out to lunch, I love the moment where Doc basically

414
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.799
he's so fascinated. He's you know, like, let imagine this because Brad,

415
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.640
we both have brothers and we've been
that in that moment where you meet

416
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.599
your brother's new girlfriend or you know, the woman he's gonna marry, or

417
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.799
whatever the case may be. So
you want to show interest, you know,

418
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.079
you want to be engaging, and
you know, oh, hey,

419
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.319
let's learn a little bit about about
you and the way he leads her down

420
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.519
that path and then and then just
go seriously goes, I made all that

421
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.839
up. Yeah, now let's let's
talk about who you really are. And

422
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.200
Dustin, poor Dustin Hoffman, in
this moment, is like, what do

423
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:38.880
you what's going on? What do
you? This is that? What is

424
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.799
this? Is this a joke?
What's what's from? This is a funny?

425
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.440
And I love them. I love
the idea that Doc has to play

426
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:52.839
both sides here because he's basically presenting
it like she is a gold digger,

427
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.720
you know, on a on a
work visa, trying to land a husband

428
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.119
in America so she can stay.
When meanwhile he's he knows, hey,

429
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.319
this this woman's was so you know, yeah, and I just made her.

430
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.719
I love that moment in the in
the in the scene in the restaurant,

431
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.519
and he just keeps laying it on. She could have bowed out very

432
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.480
after, like one or two of
the lies that she just kept making up.

433
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.519
I mean, he's just throwing out
names. Do you know this person?

434
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:24.079
Yeah? Yeah, like she's just
falling down like the whole with it.

435
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.840
Yeah, secret agent double aged one
oh one. You know someone suggests

436
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.079
you know someone or you've been somewhere, just be like, no, yeah,

437
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:38.760
she's not the best agent. But
it also seems like the division just

438
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:45.320
works with what they can get.
That's true. That's true, Brad.

439
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.840
We have got some of the most
talented writers of the seventies involved in this

440
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.599
project. Let's talk about words that
matter. Um, I think it's safe

441
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:59.960
to say, you know, just
like last time we were together, Brad,

442
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.800
we talked about Network, there's only
one true you know, there's only

443
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.159
one true line in that that everyone
knows, everyone quotes. I kind of

444
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.440
feel it's the same situation here,
Brad. You want to deliver the line

445
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:24.079
is it safe? Is it safe? Oh? Oh no? No?

446
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.880
Is it safe? That hurts?
No? I should think it would.

447
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:37.480
Shouldn't take a better care of your
teeth. You haven't quite a cavity here?

448
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:50.480
Is it safe? Is it safe? Not only do we hear this

449
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.320
a couple like more than we hear
this several times throughout the movie, right

450
00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:01.400
in different tones and you know,
you're just dealing with somebody that he doesn't

451
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.239
know how to answer, and somebody
who has a talent for sniffing outlies,

452
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.880
you know. And so when he
tries to change gears and say no,

453
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:15.719
yes, yes, it's very safe, it's it's very same. It's like,

454
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.519
now you're just making stuff up.
But and then he they lay it

455
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:27.840
out there immediately once you see the
tools and all this stuff. And if

456
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.760
you've never even seen this movie,
you know this line and you know what

457
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.559
it's about. Oh yeah, Brad, do you remember I think you and

458
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.199
I were we're together the first time
we heard this this Uh, this quote

459
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:45.119
wasn't this when we saw years ago? We saw a documentary called Terror in

460
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.320
the Aisles. Yeah, and it
and it made it look more like a

461
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.400
horror movie. I think it did. Um, but is this considered an

462
00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.159
actual horror movie? No? But
this scene is horror. It is definitely

463
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.840
horror. Uh. You know,
if you thought the the abduction scene where

464
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.199
they come and grab him out of
the bathtub, you know, all the

465
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.280
lights in his apartment are out.
That's terrifying in itself because you can hear

466
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.840
the whispering. Yeah, I'm like, you can hear that whispering going off,

467
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.199
it's like he has nowhere to go. And then when you think he's

468
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.559
safe, that crowbar coming in,
Like so simple, so effective, so

469
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:37.519
effective. That scene is amazing because
you know, oftentimes you see in horror

470
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.840
films, you know, you see
them the beautiful girl, you know,

471
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:46.480
she takes off her clothes to go
swimming or take a shower, and uh,

472
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.719
you know it's a it's a cliche, but it's also done to you

473
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.880
know, to show like, hey, this thing about when you are when

474
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:59.239
you are naked, you are at
your most vulnerable. Yeah, and poor

475
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:05.039
Dustin Hoffman when he is trembling inside
that bathtub, like that would be that

476
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.000
would be Think about it. If
you're in your bathroom, sitting naked in

477
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.159
a bathtub and you're hearing the lights
go out and you're hearing scuffling. Oh

478
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.639
my lord, what a terrifying moment. And like you said, that crowbar

479
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.159
going into the door. I think
I think that is just as effective,

480
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.280
if not more so, than Nicholson's
axe going through the door and the shining

481
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.719
right. You know, when when
horror movies go at a more surprise for

482
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.119
the bathroom effect, you know,
it's that person's in the bathroom. They

483
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.039
get up, they either see something
reflected in the mirror or they turn down

484
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.320
the wrong way and they're goners.
This is this build up. You hear

485
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:47.079
them whispering, you hear them getting
in, and then you you hear all

486
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.480
the build up. This movie has
a lot of build up, the build

487
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.039
up with the Denzil scene, the
build up with Zell, the build up

488
00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:00.440
of the abduction, a lot of
building up for the Instead of one big

489
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:06.079
boom, you get this huge build
up for each of these intense scenes.

490
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:14.159
Is It Safe? Brad ranked number
seventy on a Fi's one hundred Years one

491
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:19.440
hundred Movie Quotes. And it's been
uh, it's been mentioned in other TV

492
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.199
shows. I know, Uh,
we love James Spader. I don't know

493
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.119
if you watched The Blacklist, but
I remember there was an episode where he

494
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.199
kind of talked about this movie like
throughout the whole episode, which is which

495
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.920
was kind of fun. It was
spoofed in of all things, it was

496
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.559
spoofed actually in hot Shots. I
don't know. I don't know if you

497
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.840
remember this, um because I remember
seeing hot Shots and not really understanding the

498
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.480
joke. You know, I think
I think It went over a lot of

499
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.360
people's heads just because of how how
dated it was. But um, there's

500
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.360
that scene in hot Shots when Lloyd
Bridges punches that bad guy out. He

501
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.519
falls down the steps and into a
dentist chair, and then like a look

502
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.960
alike, Laurence Olivier, you know
glasses, you know, silver hair,

503
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.239
bald delivers the quote. So I'm
sure the Simpsons have done a spoof on

504
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.039
it. I'm sure it wouldn't have. It wouldn't surprise me if this showed

505
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.880
up in like a treehouse, a
horror or something. You know, you

506
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.320
know, family guy may be doing
so I could see Seth mcfure, I'm

507
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.079
doing doing something like this. Let's
take one more quick break and Brad,

508
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.599
when we get back, I got
to ask you the question, prequel,

509
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.280
sequel or remake. People say you
only look as good as you feel.

510
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.119
That's why I'm not sure how I'm
going to look. The morning after a

511
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.440
headache kept me awake. But you
know, there's a pain reliever that's made

512
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.320
for a headache that keeps you awake, etcetern pm etctern PM reliefs the headache

513
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.760
and its tension, and it helps
you relax for a good night's sleep,

514
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.960
so you should wake really feeling good
in the morning when you want pain relief

515
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.039
and help to sleep at night,
trake cedrin PM because in the morning you

516
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:58.880
may only look as good as you
feel. Oh hi, okay, Brad,

517
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:06.599
You're you're walking into Paramount to have
a sit down with whoever the Robert

518
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.599
Evans is at the time, and
uh, we're gonna talk about Marathon Man.

519
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:14.400
So Brad, I want to know
what are you gonna pitch? Are

520
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:19.119
you gonna are you gonna tell him
about a prequel, a sequel, or

521
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:25.960
a remake. Well, a sequel
is a little hard because obviously too much

522
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.800
time has passed and a lot of
the main players are no longer with us

523
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.639
or they're eighty years old. A
prequel to me doesn't really sound as interesting

524
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.559
because you're leaving Tom completely out of
it a little bit, except the stuff

525
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.719
with his father. But I would
like to see a remake. But I

526
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:50.920
think I'd like to see it as
maybe a mini series or a limited limited

527
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:55.639
series, but something like a one
off series that delves more into obviously the

528
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:01.760
Doc character, and that delves more
into his family's history, the crimes that

529
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:08.360
hit their father was convicted of in
the McCarthy hearings, a lot of that,

530
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:15.159
more about Zell's backstory, and you
know, maybe even some footage of

531
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.599
a Zell. So I think a
remake. But then again, you're also

532
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:25.440
talking how are we going to use
somebody in Nazi Germany to develop to today?

533
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.760
So I guess if you did remake
it, you'd kind of have to

534
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.960
have it maybe still take place in
the seventies. But I think a remake

535
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.920
with more details would be would would
be nice. All right, So so

536
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:46.159
you're giving us a limited series on
Paramount Plus, Yeah, that really sinks

537
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.760
its teeth into probably more of a
Gouldban's novel. Yeah, I think that's

538
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:57.119
a fantastic idea. Actually, And
I'm right there with you because I was

539
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.159
thinking remake. Do you have anyone
in mind? Because I've got I've got

540
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.760
three guys ready to uh to pitch
to you for the cast. I didn't

541
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.880
think of who I would cast,
but but go ahead, How do you

542
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:17.119
feel about this? In the role
of Babe Levy Dustin Hoffman, I'm gonna

543
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.880
give you a Miles Teller, his
big brother, the Roy Scheider character,

544
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:30.400
Doc Tom Hardy, And that works
because Tom Hardy is in fact, five

545
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:36.320
years older than Miles Teller and as
our big bad taking on the role of

546
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:43.159
doctor Cell none other than Ed Harris. That could work. He played such

547
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:47.559
a great He played an awesome Nazi
villain with in that mood Jude Law.

548
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.159
If you remember all the Enemy at
the Gates, Enemy at the Gates.

549
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.119
So yeah, keep asking that I
have. I don't know why you're waiting,

550
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.840
you are. That's such a fantastic
film, man, But that's that's

551
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.280
my cast. And you know what, um, let's throw some more money

552
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.920
at it, because I'd as much
as I like to see them do a

553
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.960
remake of this movie, I want
to see him do your mini series on

554
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.960
Paramount Plus. Now. Um.
Funny funny story though, Brad, Uh,

555
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:16.679
you and I bring this up just
because you said, well, you

556
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.639
really can't do a sequel to this. Are you aware that William Goldman did,

557
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.920
in fact write a sequel novel?
It's a marathon man. I didn't.

558
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.920
Yeah, I actually didn't. Boy, this is not the sequel that

559
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.599
we want for this, Uh,
this movie, the novel. The novel

560
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:39.039
was called Brothers, and let me
tell you how ridiculous it is. Apparently

561
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.719
in the in the book, the
sequel book Roy Scheider's character of Doc.

562
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.840
He survives. Okay, never mind
that we saw him zipped up at a

563
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:54.119
body back after he was disembowed,
but he does in fact survive and continues

564
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.519
on to work for the division.
Uh. And this time he's trying to

565
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:06.280
stop a terrorist group from starting World
War three. Sounds like a paycheck book,

566
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.440
is what that was? Yeah?
And here's the fun thing, because

567
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:15.920
the Thomas the Babe character is really
not in it that much at this point.

568
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:20.039
He is a history professor, um, you know, college professor of

569
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.519
history. Uh, doesn't really isn't
really relevant until the end. The big,

570
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:30.599
the big reveal, um is that
Doc kills this woman who was like

571
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:37.800
a double agent, and she just
happens to be Babe's wife. Of course,

572
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.039
of course, So I mean talk
about that. I don't think,

573
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.760
Nah, that that is bad.
That is that you haven't answered your choice

574
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:52.119
sequel pre quarter remake I did,
Oh, just all but out of mind?

575
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.280
Okay, yeah, you're just real
you want mine? Okay, the

576
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.760
less said about the sequel novel,
brother, there's the better. Uh.

577
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.800
Back to marathon Man though, let's
uh, let's hear Brad Kozo's rating out

578
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.519
of four possible stars. What are
you going to give John Schlessinger's Marathon Man,

579
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.159
I give it four stars. Um, I think it's an excellent film.

580
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:25.440
Um, it's essential for any seventies
movie fan. I have the four

581
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.280
k. It's got a great document
couple documentaries on it. It's um,

582
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:36.679
not only a well directed film,
it's really well acted. Like I said,

583
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.760
it's it's a great script. It's
a great story. Um. Yeah,

584
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.280
I I love it. You know
it. It's got a lot going

585
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.639
on in it in a short amount
of time, But I kind of like

586
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:52.880
it. It's it's a little it's
a little, um chaotic, This movie

587
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.599
is very chaotic. Um, but
I think it works. What about you?

588
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.639
So how many stars? I'm gonna
agree with Roger Ebert. He gave

589
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.880
this one three stars. I'm giving
it three stars. It's a great thriller,

590
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:13.800
definitely for nineteen seventy six. It
is a fun espionage thriller with some

591
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:19.480
great performances. I just wish there
was more Schider. Yeah, And I

592
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.039
also do like is As much as
there was a lot of these types of

593
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:28.719
films made during that time, this
was not a rip off or just kind

594
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.920
of a loose adaptation of another one
of those films. It stands on its

595
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.920
own. Well, Brad, I
want to thank you. I know you

596
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.920
are. You know you're pulling a
lot overtime these last couple of weeks because

597
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.840
but that's your own doing. You
know, we talked about doing a limited

598
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.719
series of seventy six and you said
I will be there as much as possible

599
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.719
because it's your guys. It's your
guys's fault for doing this many awesome movies.

600
00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:00.000
Yeah, well we are not done
this Friday. We will continue celebrate

601
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:06.800
rating Hoffman with our own Hoffman,
Scott Hoffman. He will join Brad and

602
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:12.599
me and we'll give you the skinny
on All the President's Men listeners, you

603
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.559
can let us know what you think
of Marathon Man. It is playing on

604
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.000
Paramount Plus or it's available on four
K Blu Ray if you're a big fan

605
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.320
like Brady, might be on Max
as well. It's not a couple of

606
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.079
them right now. So if you
get a chance, check it out and

607
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.760
let us know what you think about
it at www dot a film by podcast

608
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.360
dot com or hit us up on
social media. Thanks for lending your ears.

609
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:44.039
Catch you on the flip side.