1976 - Silent Movie

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No, Hello everybody, and welcome
back to nineteen seventy six. It's a

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limited series from a film by podcast
where we are taking a look at the

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iconic films from the year nineteen seventy
six. We'll share some behind the scenes

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information, talk about some of our
favorite underrated moments, words that matter,

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And today I am joined by mister
Scott Hoffman. Hello Scott, Hello Jeff.

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Okay, yeah, I know what
you're I know what you're doing.

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Yeah, this would be this would
be a very short episode if we if

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we knocked that like that exactly.
Scott recently had the privilege of having you

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co host a film buy. We
covered Malice. Yep. That was a

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good time, and I did my
homework. I did finally watch Vision Quest,

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So if anybody out there's upset sorright, I finally thought we're gonna have

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to hear Scott's thoughts on Vision Quest
at another time, because today we are

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waxing intellectual about mel Brooks silent movie. Yeah as advertised, Yeah, he's

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coming off of back to back box
office success with Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein

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in nineteen seventy four, and next
he decides to spoof the silent movie era,

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while paying tribute to his early days
writing for Sid Caesar's Your Show of

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Shows in the early fifties. You
know, back then that was he was

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writing pantomime vignettes and parodies of silent
films. And at the time, you

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know, in the seventies, thinking
back, you've got some some hit shows

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that are that are using a lot
of the kind of the lapstick nature of

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silent movies. You've got things like
the Carol Burnett Show, the Tim Conway

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Show, things like that were very
big. And it seems like it's odd

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that it's, what, forty years
after the last silent movie was made,

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with modern times, and he has
this idea to bring it back. It

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seems like kind of an odd thing
to do, but it's actually probably the

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perfect time for it. He's co
writing this with several people, right,

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Yeah, it was actually Ron Clark
that came up with the idea and came

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to Mel with it, and Mel
thought he was crazy. He you know,

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it's forty years since and you want
to make a silent movie. But

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the more they talked about it,
the more the idea kind of grew.

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And those names behind a lot of
those shows that I was talking about you've

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got Ruddy de Luca and you've got
Barry Levinson that are big names behind some

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of that. There's big shows in
the seventies. Yeah, so Ron Clark.

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He co writes High Anxiety, which
we just covered with Amber Lewis of

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the Docking Bay seventy seven podcast.
Yep, I think he did a Revenge

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of the Pink Panther was his other
his other big one. Rudy de Luca,

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another co writer on High Anxiety,
wrote Transylvania six five thousand, and

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I know you and I talked about
that one before off off episode. Obviously,

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he played Braces. He played the
serial killer in High Anxiety. Really

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yeah, the guy that punches through
the phone booth and interesting. Yeah,

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and I'll tell you what you have. You have seen him and loved him

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in another mel Brooks movie. It's
gonna blow your mind when I tell you

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who else he's played, though,
hit me with it. Rudy de Luca

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also played Vinny, the right hand
man of Pizza the Hut in Spaceball Boss

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You're Delicious. Yeah, oh god, I was just watching his Spaceballs the

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other day. Pizza the Hut played
by Dom DeLuise. Yeah, the Gang's

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all here, right. You mentioned
you also mentioned Barry Levitson as a co

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writer Amber and I on the High
Anxiety episode. We had a fun chat

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about his seen you know, the
whole Psycho homage. And obviously his name

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has a lot of clout in Hollywood. He's you know, directed hits like

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Good Morning Vietnam and rain Man.
So, yeah, you mentioned Don DeLuise.

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Let's talk about this cast. So
first off, mel brooks playing the

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role I don't know, not much
of a stretch for him, but he's

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playing the character named mel Fun,
a play on his actual name. His

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actually his given name is Melvin.
This is his first lead role, you

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know, this is the first time
he's stepping into the spotlight and being the

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leading man, which is kind of
interesting in a movie that that's semi autobiographical,

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people might be wondering. So,
aside from the obvious, what is

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Silent Movie about? Tell Us Scott. Silent Movie is a bold movie about

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the making of itself. So set
in present day in nineteen seventy six,

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it's the story of a director named
mel and two of his crazy friends with

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an even crazier idea to make the
first silent movie. In forty years.

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This is a make or break moment
for mel when his Hollywood legacy will either

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be divined by controversy or comedic brilliance. It's also a crossroads for one of

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this for the one studio willing to
take him on, which will either stand

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as an artistic independent or be swallowed
up by a major New York conglomerate.

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And Gulf and Devour, determined to
succeed, Mel's trio, quietly takes over

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Hollywood by gathering a cast of the
biggest stars and delivering a surprise hit without

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saying a word except for one unlikely
source. So it may not be mel

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Brooks's most revered movie, but it
stands out as one of the boldest ideas

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in cinematic history. And like I
said before, it's it's not even a

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movie that he thought would work.
He was just like, well, what

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do we do for the title cards? What do we do for the humor?

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And they really looked at it from
the lens of if Buster Keaton wasn't

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making a movie in present day,
what would he do? And using a

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lot of the you know, it's
not going back to black and white.

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It's not trained to make exactly a
silent movie, but it's it's this kind

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of a high concept of saying,
you know, can we make a movie

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without really using any words and relying
a lot on sight gags, pratfalls,

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noises, things like that to get
it across. And you know, in

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the early stages of the movie they
kind of play with a little bit of

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of dialogue. You see them used
usual title cards and things like that,

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but clearly the words that they're kind
of saying, you can read their lips

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and see if they're like, you
know, cursing up a storm. Then

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they say, well how do you
do in the title card talking about his

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crazy friends. Because this is this
is basically art imitating life. Let's talk

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about Marty Felban First, Yeah,
Sky, he accidentally terrified me for years

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as a kid, and I'm probably
one of the few kids who is actually

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scared of young Frankenstein growing up because
of his eyes, because of his the

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giant bulging eyes, which is it's
it's a it's a condition, it's graves

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op the mouth. I'm not even
going to try to say that it's a

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conditions he had for a while where
his eyes were protruded and become misaligned and

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you know, you can you can
picture of the scenes in Young Frankenstein when

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he pains to the camera and he's
got that crazy look. But he also

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I mean, he leaned right into
that and said, I don't want to

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be another Robert Redford, right,
I don't want to get my appearance fixed.

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I don't want to be you know, just like any other actor.

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I want to be myself. And
he goes so far into the physical humor

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with this. He's practically a stunt
man, right. He's doing all these

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flips and he's doing a lot of
the you know, the most acrobatic part

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of the movie. So you know, the eyes are just a fraction of

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what he what he brings to the
role. I'll give you a quick hot

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take, you know, I'll probably
I know I have something about this later,

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but hot take for you right now. A little bit of him goes

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a long way. And we went
a long, long, long way with

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his his scenes in his film Dom
DeLuise, though this is back you know

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Mel. A lot of Mel's earlier
films, you know, you mentioned Spaceballs

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where he put he's voicing Pizza the
Hut, but twelve Chairs and you know

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some of these other earlier mel Brooks
films that a lot of people aren't aware

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of or maybe they haven't seen before. Don was kind of one of his

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go to guys. Yeah, yeah, which is interesting because when I think

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of Dom, I immediately go to
the voice. And a lot of that's

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because of you know, obviously you
mentioned eighty seven, Spaceballs, Pizza to

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the Hut, but I always go
back to, you know, Jeremy from

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Secret to nim Oh, yeah,
an iconic voice. We've talked about his

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voice work and things like American Tale
in eighty six he was Tiger. Oh

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yeah, he was Tiger. We
talked about it on our eighty six series

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Cannonball Run. He was Captain Chaos
and you know, Captain Chaos Muppet movie.

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Like you think of any of these
Muppet movie in seventy nine, any

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of these movies where you know,
you think of Dom, you think of

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the voice because it's a very expressive
part of him as an actor. Very

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interesting to see him here without that
voice, but he still he still delivers.

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He's still got the I mean,
he's very expressive when he's kind of

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mouthing the words and does a good
job. I think of kind of you

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know, stealing the scenes when it's
his physical humor that that's going to be

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the star of the scene. So
when he's like the Flamenco dancer that's you

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know, pounding the table into the
floor, He's the guy that's making the

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trailer tilt in James Conn's trailer.
He does a great job of capturing that

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physical humor. And when you've got
Doma and you've got him working with directly

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with obviously with Mel the writer of
this, but you've got him working with

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Marty Feldman, and you've got writers
that we're working on the Marty Feldman comedy

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machine. Around the same time,
you've got a great mix of physical actors

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that know how to draw out the
comedy in those kind of scenes. You

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can't talk comedy without someone as legendary
as Sid Caesar. He's got a small

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but prominent role in this film.
He plays the studio chief. You mentioned

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they're trying, you know, Mel
fun is trying to save this this movie

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studio because he's he's one one box
office bomb away from losing the studio,

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right right, I don't know,
I get you know, Sids, you

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gotta you gotta factor Sid's age into
into his performance. But yeah, yeah,

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again, the I understand that he
comes from that vaudeville era where like

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you you know, the more goofy, goof the goofy or your face,

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you know, the silly faces you
can make, the more laughs you're gonna

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get. Man, you know,
the stick gets a little old, it

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does. Yeah, And I mean
that That's one of the things that I

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think kind of works against the movie
when you're watching it for a modern times,

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is that a lot of the faces
and the star power had a certain

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draw in nineteen seventy six. It's
not that the names aren't relevant today,

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but they hit in a much different
way when you're watching him in seventy six.

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So Sid Caesar obviously still legendary,
but at the time there were people

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that were still able to see reruns
of his show and and know him as

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a as a as a big name. When you see him in this,

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when you see some of the other
stars in this, it's just kind of

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like, oh, well, that's
that's interesting, But it's not quite as

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dazzling as it might have been in
the seventies. You talked about dazzling.

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Let's talk about Bernadette Peters. She
plays vill maccaplan. Yeah, here's my

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question to you. This is the
Bernadette Peters enigma. For me, I

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feel like she's always been like a
Hollywood sex symbol. She's always been a

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glamorous actress. But I don't know
anything that she's been in. It's one

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of those situations where you have to
look at someone's filmography and go, oh,

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okay, yeah they were in that
movie, or they were in that.

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Oh I don't remember being on that
TV show. I mean, obviously

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I remember her from the Longest Yard
in seventy four with Burt Reynolds. You

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know, if she plays the warden
secretary and she has that that Marge Simpson

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height like hair, you know,
Birt even mentions it. But on that

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it's like it's like she always showed
up on talk show, she always showed

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up on at premieres, and you
just you just you knew her. She

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it's like she was famous for being
famous? Am I am? I?

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Well? And when you when you
look at her credits beyond filmography, beyond

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television, she has been on stage
since fifty eight. I think she's been

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in countless productions. So and I
would say she's pretty close to the egot

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So she's got the Emmy, she's
got the Grammy, she's got the Tony.

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Maybe this year is the year for
her Oscar. Maybe it's coming up

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soon. She's almost shout that rounded
out. You know, she's I think

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she's seventy five now and she actually
she's in post production. She just wrapped

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a movie. She did, a
movie with Malcolm McDowell and Mary Steinbergin called

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Last Train to Fortune, like a
Western. So yeah, I don't let's

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see. Let's let's hope that she's
got like a best supporting actress type of

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role in that film. And we
talked about that earlier this week when Amber

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and I did High Anxiety. You
know, mel mel Brooks is one of

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the few people that that has the
egot. So Burnett Peters is close.

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Let's let's let's get her there.
Yeah, I mean you talk about other

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things that she's been in. This
is where I'm you know, kind of

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a child of the eighties and seeing
seeing movies on heavy rotation. Uh,

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my first go to is nineteen eighty
one's Heartbeats. Do you remember that at

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all? I don't remember that one
at all, and I feel like I

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should remember Brendette Peters because she definitely
makes a memorable performance in Silent Movie,

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So yep, yep, for sure, she becomes the the she turns the

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trio into a quartet, and I
think she does a great job of having

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this, you know, like you
said, the sex appeal and using that

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to her advantage and you know,
getting into the physical comedy but a little

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bit of that with a kind of
you know, gets onto the sexy end

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of the spectrum with it. But
yeah, nineteen eighty one's Heartbeats with Andy

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Kaufman where they're both robots in love. And I saw this movie. I

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don't know how many times. I
don't know what it was about. I

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just remember being captivated by, like, what in God's name is this?

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Her and Andy Kaufman playing robots that
are in love with each other? That

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yeah, yes, I'm sure it
has rotten tomatoes. It probably has a

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rotten to It will score like two. But yeah, you know, or

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her in the Jerk, Oh yeah, that's right. She was in the

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Jerk definitely stands out. And then
nineteen eighty two is Annie and it actually

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makes me want to kind of see
that again. But it's been a long

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time. In addition to this small
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cameos, and there it's kind of
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the movie. Mel Mel fun has
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well, if you get stars,
I don't care what it's about. You

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know, typical studio mentality. So
we got we got six big stars here.

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Scott mel claims he got every one
of them to work for three hundred

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dollars a day. And we're talking
Burt Reynolds, James Cohn, Liza Manelli,

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Marcel Marceau and Bancroft and Paul Newman
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those people are at the height of
their popularity and their star power. Do

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you have a favorite cameo in this
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Newman chase scene. Good one,
that's I gotta go with that one too.

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Yeah, And I mean you gotta
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the conversation at the time talking them
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not having to pay them very much. They didn't have to remember any lines.

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Yeah, we got well, you
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and Bancroft has got to be the
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You know, they had been married
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it could have been the hardest one
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one to convince. I'll tell you
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keep in mind, she's what maybe
a decade past the graduate when she's doing

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this, and she is still bringing
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I mean wow, Yeah, I
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it's yeah, it's fascinating to see
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Very vivacious, very like, you
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every single scene that she's in,
and that the big long evening again,

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and then you fast forward to Malice
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of over a table. If anyone
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having back to back episode conversations about
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been like, I don't even see
how that's possible. Honestly, what's the

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Bancroft connection. The Bancroft connection.
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do you know, like and speaking
of Ann Bancroft. Do you know this

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story? You know this? This
movie has a running gag with Coca Cola

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products. They had a there's a
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have the kind of the Coca colas
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one vending machine that's sitting right there
and it's like this maximum overdrive moment when

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they fight check with the coke machine. Right, Yeah, that's Dom DeLuise,

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right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So doesn't it have to do

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with some kind of fun that she
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that gag that you where the coke
machine is kind of spitting cans, you

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know, aggressively at Dom DeLuise.
It's like every couple of minutes Dom has

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got like he's got a bottle of
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here's the deal. In nineteen sixty
three, and Bancroft is nominated for Best

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Actress for The Miracle Worker, but
she's she's not there. She can't attend

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the services because she's doing I think
she's doing a Broadway thing, so Joan

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Crawford. And this is weird because
I wouldn't think the Academy would would allow

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actors and actresses to make these kinds
of decisions. But but Joan Crawford convinces

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Bancroft to let her accept the Oscar
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she asked for this is because she
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also up for the award for whatever
happened to Baby Jane who was her co

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star and they hated each other.
This it's well documented. I mean they

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fxx even made a movie about it, right yep. So, and Bancroft

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is like, sure, that's fine. And the crazy thing is she never

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thinks and Bancroft for this for letting
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is on the board of directors for
Pepsi Company. Interesting so so because she

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felt snubbed Melt does this giant coke
placement then? Yeah, So like one

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feud begets another feud, begets another
feud. You got you gotta love,

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you gotta love Hollywood. Yeah,
well, I'm sure that sold plenty of

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coke in the theater, especially for
this kind of movie. Like you're either

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laughing so much you've got to dry
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this very silent movie and needing vs
some popcorn and some coke. So I'm

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sure that the theaters were very thankful
for that. Well, speaking of coke,

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let's take a quick break for our
sponsors, and when we get back,

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we will talk about some editing suggestions, an underrated you know, underrated

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moments and words that matter or word
that matters. We'll be back. We'll

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be back in a minute. Girls
in the streets got so much to choose.

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I wouldn't let anyone stand in my
shoes. You know, when you

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stop and think about it, We've
got more things to do in this country

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than any other country in the world, and a lot of them are close

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to your own backyard. Not only
we got more things to do, we've

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got the best drink to go with, the special drink with the taste that

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won over the whole world, the
drink with the bright little sparkle that says,

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look up America, coke. Scott. Let's talk editing suggestions because I

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have some for this film. Okay, we've both we've we both I feel

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like we've both kind of danced around
the issue that this being a silent movie

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strung together by sight gags and pratfalls
and pantomiming. I feel like it goes

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a little long. Yeah, and
and you and and I say that,

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knowing that this movie is only eighty
three minutes long, it felt longer,

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it did, right, Yeah,
when I saw Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer is three

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hours and fifteen minutes, And aside
from my bladder letting me know it was

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running long, I did not feel
like it was running long. Yeah.

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At eighty three minutes, silent movie
feels really long. Yeah. Yeah.

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And I think there's there's something to
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I guess I'll say, like the
novelty of the concept. Right after a

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while, you know, you kind
of get used to the idea, You

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kind of get used to what's been
happening. And I think we're so used

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to seeing movies with active dialogue that
it just felt like you're still kind of

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in that silent moment. I know, it's it's a little bit different for

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us today because I'm sure in the
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you're you're in a crowd, You've
got people that are, you know,

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laughing at the screen when I'm watching
this. It's just me watching it,

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and it's dead silent in the house, aside from the noises that they could

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have put into the soundtrack and whatever. But going that long without dialogue got

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a little hard to take, and
it kind of got like there are a

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couple of dance sequences, a couple
of dance numbers where I think it started

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to feel like it started to kind
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was watching the chase scene when they're
chasing down Marty Feldman, he's wrapped up

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in the film reel they're trying to
get it back from gulf and devour,

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I was just kind of like,
all right, are we almost done with

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this? Is this almost over?
It just felt like it was running a

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bit, a bit heavy on the
site gags, and I think I was

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ready for it to be done.
Yeah, you will. I think a

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lot of it, I mean,
I think a lot of it was was

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reminiscent of like Binny Hill type gags
where we're watching something but we're watching it

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sped up, but somehow it seems
so much longer than when it should be.

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I got some cuts here for you, Scott. I'm gonna give you

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let's let's say you're in the editing
uh booth. Yep, you're Let's say

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you're in the editing room. So
first off, we don't need six cameos,

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we need five. I say,
cut the entire Liza Minelli scene.

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Yeah it's it's stupid. Yeah yeah, like that's do we need five minutes

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of them like they're they they're they're
trying to sneak into it, like uh,

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you know, the commissary. She's
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you know, supposedly, and they
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and shining Armor, and they tried. It's like five minutes of them trying

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to sit down at her table and
they can't fit and they can't bend,

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and they you know, and they're
breaking chairs and they're making messes. I

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don't know, I got bored with
that almost immediately. Well, and that's

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the thing, like I think at
the time her name had a certain amount

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of draw there's probably a certain amount
of people that are you know, falling

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over themselves trying to get you know, a man of her attention, right,

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which works into the whole thing about
the being the shining Armor costumes and

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you know, trying to make it
seem like they're part of her movie or

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part of her cast and falling all
over themselves. But there wasn't enough kind

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of context to make it mean anything
more than hey, look it's Liza Minelli.

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You know. It's like James Kahn
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element and Bancroft had an extra element. Paul Newman had that extra obviously,

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Marcel had a big scene. It
just seemed like Liza was there for the

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purpose of being Liza. And I
didn't really it didn't really do much for

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me. No, I'll tell you
what doesn't do much for me. We

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kind of mentioned Marty Feldman, a
little goes a long way, how about

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this one? Cut his elevator pinball
gag because it went way too long.

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Yeah, and I just felt it
was it was dumb, like the whole

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movie, like we've got this running
joke with his character where he falls behind

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because he gets cut off by a
closing door or a herd of people or

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whatever. Yeah, we don't need
to see it over and over again.

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And watching the elevator pinball thing where
he's again, we're sped up. He's

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trying to get into an elevator and
he, for reasons we don't understand,

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he's like kind of ricocheting off of
him. Yeah, Yeah, it's just

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yeah, cut that one, Scott, Yeah, I've got a cut for

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you. Okay, what do you
got? The credits on both ends of

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this, I'm sorry the credit sequence
is. I was kind of surprised that

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they were just I mean, the
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I assume it's the same one,
but it's just this very flat flood of

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reds and blues and greens. It's
just a very normal text over top of

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it. It seemed like a missed
opportunity to maybe use kind of stylized title

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cards or something that would just make
it a little bit more interesting. It

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just felt so flat. And then
when they do the yeah, and then

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they kind of go to the same
place at the end credits. But then

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we've got those cameo mentos moments where
you've got you know, you see Paul

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Newman's profile and he hams at the
camera and then goes back to looking to

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the side, and it was just
kind of like, what is this?

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What are we watching? I don't
know, Because the Blu ray has the

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exact same title sequences, and it's
one of those where I'm kind of already

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looking at my watch like, yeah, yeah, let's get to it.

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Let's get to it, all right, I got one more cut for you,

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Scott. I'm gonna say, let's
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most of Bernadette Peter's scenes, and
specifically I'm talking about the carousel and the

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wedding cake scenes. They can go
leave her, leave her good parts.

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So I think you're right. I
think with some editing, they could have

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made it a little bit more.
You know, we have all these like

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running through the parks and all the
time it's been on the carousel with the

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pooping wooden horse and all this other
kind of stuff probably would have hit better

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if they had been super condensed to
kind of illustrate how quickly mel is falling

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in love with her character. Right, Ye, But since each of them

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are these kind of longer drawn out
sequences to make for more opportunities for sight

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gags, Yeah, it's just kind
of that that drawn out, and it

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also seems to kind of interfere the
pace, Like in the middle of the

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movie, you have a love story
kind of hatching. It did seem kind

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of like odd placement. It seems
like they could have add a different comedy

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beat if they had done a little
bit of uh something different with with that

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whole sequence. Well yeah, and
they you know what if they would have

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introduced her character early on as this
this uh this sex symbol, you know,

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because you know, in Golf,
he's trying to wreck this whole idea

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of this movie getting made, and
we could have seen her somehow, I

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don't, I don't know, but
they could have even made kind of a

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running gag to say that every time
he sees her, he goes through this

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mini montage of them, you know, getting married, growing old, having

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but do like several of those,
but make them super super short, so

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it's just easy to see that he's
you know, quick to fall in love.

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Let's talk about an underrated moment,
Scott. We're not talking about the

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favorite scene. We're not talking about
the you know, it's not the trailer

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for the movie, but without it, the film is a lot less.

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You have something like that in mind, because I got something if if you

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don't mind me going first, yeah, you go ahead, all right.

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I want to talk about the first
boardroom scene at in Golf and devour odd

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odd name for a company, yep, but it has a has a meaning

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to it, right, tell me
so. At the time, apparently,

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Gulf and Western, so you've got
a giant gas conglomerate is swallowing up a

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lot of companies between sixty five and
seventy. Nineteen sixty five and nineteen seventy,

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they swallowed up about eighty different companies, including Paramount in nineteen sixty six.

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I've always wondered every time you see
like that classic logo the mountain blue

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and you're at the bottom it's Golf
and Western, wondering what Western was?

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Okay exactly? Yeah, well it
exist a little bit of that. Yeah.

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This scene, though, I think
is excusing the pun paramount to the

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movie's development, because you got you
got a boardroom full of execs. They're

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basically pleading ignorance and discussing their lack
of profits. More relevant now with the

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strikes that are going on than ever
before. Yeah, that's true. I

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think it's Warner like, Like just
the other day, Warner Brothers Discovery announced

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losses for this year up to five
hundred million dollars due to the impact of

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the strikes. Wow, that's that
blows my mind. Man, Yeah,

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Scott, this company, this is
the company that Superman, Batman and Wonder

403
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.680
Woman call home. Do you know
which? Do you know which hero saved

404
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:52.519
them this year financially? The flush
you were wrong, sir Barbie with its

405
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:59.759
one point three billion dollar box office
out of nowhere. Yeah, I find

406
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:05.559
it. I find it ironic that
maybe ironic may be sad that this is

407
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:12.400
nineteen seventy six, but even today, you know, studio execs are still

408
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.000
yes men, they're still clueless,
and these these these big companies are just

409
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.079
hemorrhaging money and no one's doing anything
about it. Yeah. Yeah, But

410
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.559
he capitalizes on that really well in
that scene because he has you know,

411
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.039
like you said, when they're reporting
the the the profits and they don't give

412
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.680
any kind of context whatsoever. It's
just no, no, no, nothing,

413
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.920
nothing, nothing. And then as
soon as they're done reporting, heads

414
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:44.680
will roll right getting up and smacking
the heck out of them. So yeah,

415
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.480
that that kind of that kind of
attitude is definitely something that's going to

416
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:55.680
hurt that artistic ability and artistic vision, and it's something that he captures pretty

417
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:01.079
well on this one. You gotta
you gotta underrated moment for yourself. So

418
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.160
for me, it's really the one
that circles around the true silent start of

419
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:15.400
the movie. Marcel Marcel. Okay, no, okay, well do I

420
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.880
mean to say that for words that
matter? No, No, we're doing.

421
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.920
We're doing. I thought you really
says you're doing I'm not doing a

422
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.000
bit. Just no, I'm just
right, you said, Marcel Marcel.

423
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:36.559
And I'm like, all right,
Scott, Okay, Look, I'm gonna

424
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:44.680
be careful here because I know you
are a major advocate for the creative form,

425
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.640
be it you know, writing,
uh, special effects, puppetry,

426
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.279
so I know you. I know
you can appreciate creative talent in all its

427
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:08.199
many forms. Pantomiming mimes, I
think it's just annoying, Like when I

428
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.360
see a mime, my my all. I all I'm thinking about is like

429
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.639
how much I'd like to punch him
in the face. And I gotta admit,

430
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.519
that's that's not one in my wheelhouse. It's not like I you know,

431
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.599
know all the famous mind world and
at the time, you know,

432
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.760
even in the seventies, there was
a lot of you know, mocking mimes,

433
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.440
like them just being so obnoxious.
Because you've had a lot of you

434
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.519
know, people that are performing on
the street and kind of you know,

435
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.920
kind of getting in your way if
you're trying to, you know, walk

436
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.760
along and somebody you know has an
invisible wall in front of him. But

437
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:47.119
it's it's a clever pull here,
because you've got Marcel was definitely a big

438
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:53.800
name at the time and probably still
the most famous name of mimes in that

439
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.559
in that whole world. But you
know, he's got that display the physical

440
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.199
humor that really define the comedy in
silent movies. Marty Feldman has said that

441
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.039
Buster Keaton is one of his heroes, and I think works like Buster Keaton

442
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:15.519
definitely fall into that realm of,
you know, a mind working with effects

443
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.559
and circumstances that aren't really there,
but turning it into something that's a use

444
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:25.440
of physical comedy. I don't know
if he's ever spoken a word in performance

445
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:31.880
ever, but he has the only
spoken word in the entire movie, which

446
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:38.599
again it's something that probably hit a
lot funnier in the seventies. Here,

447
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.360
you know, people not might not
know. It's just, you know,

448
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.800
there's a mind that comes on and
says the only spoken word. But I

449
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.400
thought it was kind of a clever
use of Marcel's fame and kind of given

450
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.079
him the spotlight. I did think
it was kind of interesting when I was

451
00:35:53.119 --> 00:36:00.719
looking into Marcel Marceau. Apparently when
he was five years old, his mom

452
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.199
took him to see a Charlie Chaplin
movie that led him to be to want

453
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:12.000
to become a mime. So you've
got that other that additional connection between silent

454
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.199
movies and this movie. But apparently
the first time he used mime was after

455
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:23.920
Frances invaded and to keep Jewish children
quiet while he helped them escape to Switzerland,

456
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:30.599
he would use my performance to keep
them entertained, which was influenced by

457
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.480
Charlie Chaplin. So there's an interesting
bit of depth that goes into to him

458
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.360
as an artist, and I think
giving him the spotlight in this movie is

459
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:47.679
a is a great touch, you
know, hearing that that background. I

460
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:53.840
I appreciate what he what he did, Yeah, and I feel I feel

461
00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:00.840
guilty for saying that I'd want to
punch him in the face now, So

462
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.880
now now I'm just I'm just bothered
by you for bringing it up, and

463
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.480
because then now I want to punch
you in the face instead. So I

464
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.760
think I think a lot of them
minds out there are probably keenly aware of

465
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.440
how much they're just ridiculed and hated. And you know, I don't see

466
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.880
them much outside of you know,
sea world kind of things, but you

467
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.599
know, it's it's definitely an interesting
art form. Watching this, as I

468
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:29.880
was getting quickly annoyed with his his
mind, his his you know, the

469
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.119
winds blowing and he can't get to
the phone, right stuff, I had

470
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.480
the thought like, why do people
do this? Like there's no future,

471
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.320
there's no money in this, and
I just curiously I googled what what a

472
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:50.639
mime makes? Like there's their salary. According to zip recruiter a mime,

473
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.880
most mimes on average can make up
to fifty three dollars an hour, which

474
00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:00.320
puts them at six figures a year. There's there's no there's no way I'm

475
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.400
calling bullshit on that. There's there's
just no way. You'll get it.

476
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.679
You'll get emails from mimes after this. Oh gosh, yeah, Lord Lord

477
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:13.559
help us. If a lot of
our listeners are are in the mime business,

478
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.320
where I'm gonna I'm gonna be apologizing
quite quite profusely. That's right.

479
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.079
Words that matter, Scott. This
is one of my This is always one

480
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.840
of my favorite moments when we do
nineteen seventy six, because we had to

481
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.719
share one of our favorite, uh
favorite quotes, our lines of dialogue,

482
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:37.880
and you pointed it out. There
is one single three letter word uttered in

483
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:44.559
this entire movie. It's by Marcel
Marceau when he shouts in French non,

484
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:58.880
which is you know, no,
no works for you know, it's a

485
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.000
fun gag because you know, the
you know, studio chief sit sizers like

486
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.159
what do you say? And meles
like, I don't understand French, so

487
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.119
right, so they just they just
assumed that they've got him, right,

488
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.039
Yep. I'm actually surprised there wasn't
more of a use of kind of playing

489
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.079
up the title cards because that pretty
you mean, in this scene or in

490
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.159
the just thought the film just throughout
the film, like we're talking about words

491
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.360
that matter and kind of the use
of words and something that's it's a silent

492
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.199
movie, but the words are still
used, right, like the title cards

493
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.719
and things like that. Pretty early
in the movie, I could see that,

494
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.199
you know, they're they're in the
car, they're driving along and Mel's

495
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:44.599
character goes through this rant where you
can read his lips and you can see

496
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.239
that he's going on this filthy diet
tribe. Oh yeah, and then just

497
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.800
a you know, a plane and
simple that makes me angry kind of title

498
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.519
card. Yeah, Like, I
didn't get a laugh that that that that

499
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.599
made me chuckle. I was going
to it did kind of surprise me.

500
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.519
They didn't continue that kind of an
idea or a thread, Like they could

501
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.039
have gotten some of the filthy comics
of the time, given them some on

502
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.960
screen dialogue where you can read their
lips and you can pretty easily see what

503
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.039
they were going to say, and
turn that into something tame in the title

504
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.960
card. Now, that would have
been good because I like, I said

505
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.920
that that's might that might be one
of the funniest moments in this movie when

506
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.360
he is, you know, he's
he's letting it rip, and then you

507
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.519
get to the title card it says
that makes me angry. Right, Okay,

508
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:31.960
Yeah, they could have think of
all the things they could have got

509
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.440
away with, the dirty things,
the provocative things they could have said,

510
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.000
right, and then just glossed over
with a title card like, oh,

511
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.920
that would have been great. Man, You're you got something there, all

512
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:50.960
right. So prequel sequel remake Scott
Your pitch to the studio. If you

513
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.000
were malfun, You're you're walking in
to see the studio chief, What do

514
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.800
you think best serves this film?
What are you gonna do with it?

515
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.840
So, what I think is kind
of interesting is if we look at this

516
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.480
as semi autobiographical and it's it's not. Again, it's not trying to tell

517
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.199
Mel Brooks's life. It's trying to
sell it's telling a movie, a silent

518
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:14.159
movie about making a silent movie.
But when you notice they're going to the

519
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.519
theater and they're going to see silent
movie. I noticed there were a lot

520
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:21.800
of posters in the lobby, and
it's a clever way of mel continuing to

521
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:27.119
promote Young Frankenstein. But in that
universe, what if it was actually Mel

522
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.400
fund that made Young Frankenstein and before
he went on the alcoholic bender that ruined

523
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.639
his career. It's actually his film
that they're seeing in the in the lobby.

524
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.920
Now that probably doesn't play because he
went on some kind of a bender

525
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.719
and then you know, didn't become
a success. And obviously Young Frankenstein was.

526
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:52.679
But what if you turned that into
getting a look at the story behind

527
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.960
turning a universal monster into a black
and white comedy. You could still have

528
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:04.159
Dom Bell as the monster. Okay, possibly you could have Marty Eggs as

529
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:09.320
Igor pretty obviously, but I don't
know. It seems like there's there's so

530
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.199
many You look at the outtakes,
you look at the good time they have

531
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.320
on making any mel Brooks movie,
but especially with young Frankenstein, it seems

532
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.239
like there could be kind of a
story behind the story there. What I

533
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.800
don't know is, you know,
do you make it in seventy six,

534
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.360
like I was saying, I'm like, you know, Don DeLuise and Marty

535
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.199
Felman, or is it something that's
modern day and you make it with something

536
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:40.000
somebody like Bill Hayter in Gene Wilder's
role. I asked you if you wanted

537
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.519
to make a prequel, sequel or
remake, and in classic Scott Hoffman fashion,

538
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.639
you ignore the options and you go
with spinoffs, prequel, sequel.

539
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:59.840
Wait, oh okay, so I'm
listening. I'm like, this is something

540
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:06.440
Frankenstein comes before Silent movie, and
if it's already in the theater, then

541
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.280
that's a prequel. Alright, Well
played, Scott. Here's what I'm gonna

542
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.760
give you, ye, I'm gonna
give you a sequel. Okay, but

543
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:21.639
I want you to consider this.
It's a sequel as a TV special.

544
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:28.800
Interesting, all right, Well,
mel Brooks is currently writing and producing Young

545
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:34.239
Frankenstein Live. All right. We
know that he did what was it Life

546
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.880
of Brian Part two or his History
I'm sorry, yeah, thank you,

547
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.440
History of the World part two.
He did that for Hulu. Yeah.

548
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.000
So here's what I'm gonna throughout you. Let's see mel Brooks do Silent Movie

549
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:50.639
two as a TV special, having
round up all his friends as well as

550
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.440
current Hollywood stars, you know,
and the whole plot, the whole plot

551
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.440
device being mel fund. You know, in this movie he saves the studio.

552
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:05.039
Now he has to save Hollywood from
post pandemic climate at home streaming platforms

553
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.800
and union strikes. And I get
it. You know, Mel's ninety seven,

554
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.159
so I don't think he's gonna be
running around as the lead. But

555
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.000
he could be like the studio head
type, you know. Put him in

556
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.440
the studio head roll and then get
all these things about all these classic actors

557
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.960
and actresses that are you know,
we still have access to have them.

558
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:30.400
Let's let there's let's let's have a
marriage between like old Hollywood New Hollywood,

559
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:37.519
and I even as as much as
a disdain as I have for the the

560
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.519
Marcel Marcel moment. Scott, I'm
gonna make you happy. I'm gonna make

561
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.199
everybody happy. Let's be honest.
Let's get Kevin Smith to do one of

562
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.639
the cameos as Silent Bob, and
he'll have the walk. He'll be the

563
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.679
only person that talks in the whole
TV special a TV a TV special where

564
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.440
no there's no talking, you know
though, on the score though, on

565
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.480
the sound effects, that is my
idea to use. Scott, What do

566
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.480
you think? I dig it all
right? Scott? What do you have

567
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.079
for mel Brooks Silent Movie? Out
of a possible four stars? What are

568
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.239
you? What are you giving this? M I hate to say, I'm

569
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.760
probably gonna say it too. It's
right about halfway for me. I mean,

570
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.719
it's it's revered for me because of
mel Brooks, because of the cast,

571
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.639
because of you know, the boldness
of the concept. Is it one

572
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.039
that I'm going to keep coming back
to and see over and over again?

573
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.159
Probably not? And I mean I
I don't see myself being able to sit

574
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.559
down and kind of convince somebody else, like you've got to see this watch

575
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.440
this. It's it's absolutely hilarious.
It's interesting. But I would say,

576
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.280
you know, it goes about halfway
for me. What about you I mentioned

577
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.639
earlier, Uh, you know,
watching watching my blue ray of this,

578
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.320
you would think that I'm a big
fan. I will echo your rating.

579
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.320
I'm gonna say two stars. I'll
give you one star because it's mel Brooks.

580
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.719
I'll give you one star because it's
a very high risk concept. Yeah,

581
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.239
but other than that, it's dated, does not does not hit the

582
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.280
way it should nowadays. And yeah, I own the Blue ray, but

583
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:14.719
it's because it's part of a the
mel Brooks collection, you know nine,

584
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.599
you know, nine of his eleven
movies or in this thing. You know

585
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.760
you're not gonna not buy it because
of Silent Movie and for the mel Brooks

586
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.679
completest. I would say anyone that
is a fan of mel Brooks should at

587
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.480
least watch it once just to appreciate
what he does in it, because it's

588
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.840
not like you're grimacing the whole time. There's like we like we said,

589
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.440
we've talked about some fun moments in
it. There's some cool stuff in it.

590
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.000
So I would say, yeah,
for me, it's like I'll you

591
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.800
know, whether or not, whether
whether or not I'll watch it again ever,

592
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.239
I don't know, but I do
know this, Scott. I would

593
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:50.480
like to thank you for joining me
once again. Well, actually this is

594
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.960
your first time joining me. On
nineteen seventy six. You had that great

595
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:59.880
episode with Brad Cozo where you did
all the President's Men. But hopefully you

596
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.199
will you will come back to nineteen
seventy six. Asked for next week,

597
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:08.239
You're beaming aboard the uss Sritos.
Correct. Yeah, yeah, very excited.

598
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:13.239
Lower Decks is coming back. Uh. There's a there's a big Star

599
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:20.119
Trek animated uh celebration that that kicks
off with that two part premier. So

600
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.800
I'm going to be joined by Wayne
Wedded on that series. We're gonna start

601
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:29.480
talking about Lower Decks every week.
So tune if you're a Star Trek or

602
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.679
an animation fan, or if you're
just looking for something new. I loved

603
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.239
what you guys did with David Burns
on Strange New Wednesdays talking about the Strange

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New Worlds. Can't wait to hear
what you guys are gonna talk about with

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Lower Decks. I actually I recently
just started watching it. I'm in the

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second season now. Yeah, I
it was I never would have expected this

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from from a Star Trek show.
It is animated, it's adult animated comedy,

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and you know, I cry laughing
most every episode, and and great

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performances by the voice actors. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great time to

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get back into Star Trek. And
yet we're going to be joined by David

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Brings again as much as he's able
to, and we'll have some some great

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conversations for you to tune into.
Yeah, he's got it. He's got

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a lot of away missions. I
understand. Comes back place he's in,

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he's in the transport buffer. Well, we hope, we hope you've enjoyed

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this episode of nineteen seventy six.
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