1996: Bio-Dome

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It was the mid nineties. Some
of us were a year or two out

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of high school and some of us
were a year or two into college.

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We didn't know who we wanted to
be, but we knew where we wanted

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to be, the movie theater.
These are the movies of nineteen ninety six.

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What's up, everybody. I'm Jeff
Johnson from a Film by podcast and

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we're getting jiggy with another limited series. We broke down the fresh films of

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nineteen eighty six. Then we examined
the gritty cinemascape of nineteen seventy six.

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It's time now to check out the
Hella good flicks of nineteen ninety six.

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One of our friends, author Andy
Frye, is here today. Andy,

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I look at you kind of like
a subject matter expert regarding nineteen ninety six.

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We tell us a little bit about
your book, and that might explain

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why I feel that way. Yeah. So, I wrote this book called

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ninety Days in the Nineties, published
it about eighteen months ago. It's it's

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ninety Days in the Nineties of rock
and roll time travel story. It is

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what it sounds like. It's a
book written by a gen x for anybody

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who's a gen x or who just
loves has deep, deep cut love of

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music. And it's about a record
store owner who's you know, kind of

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having a midlife crisis. And here's
about this time travel train that may or

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may not exist in Chicago, part
of the l the CTA line here that

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called the Gray Line, and finds
a way to go back to nineteen ninety

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basically, to go back in time
at a time when she is started getting

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nostalgic and trying to figure it all
out and thinks, well, maybe I'll

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just go back and see if I
can reado some things or make some amends

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or you know, all the stuff
you could think about with time travel.

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But when she gets back there to
nineteen ninety six, as a term is

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out, she does everything about that, sorry John Cusack, and maybe maybe

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generationally appropriate that she gets caught up
in the music scene and sort of her

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old life in her twenties and not
dealing with her stuff. And you know,

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then eventually she does. She you
know, she has to deal with

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it. And she also realizes that
nineteen ninety six great great movie or great

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music here. We could talk about
that in a few minutes. You know,

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we have this Golden age fallacy that
we think about our youth or when

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we were a little younger and less
responsibility, how awesome it was. We

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forget about all the hard stuff,
Like you know, I think about when

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I was twenty two, I'd no
responsibility, got to go see bands every

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night. I don't remember as easily
the part about like having to do my

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laundry and a basement with quarters and
eat noodles every night because I couldn't afford

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anything, you know, not that
I have to, you know, not

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that I drive a Lexus her living
a mansion or anything, but you know,

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we we kind of remember that the
stuff we're fond of, and that's

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what makes nostalgia so great. I
love the book. It's one of my

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favorites. I can't wait to see
what you got coming next. But before

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before we do that, let's talk
about one of those films from nineteen ninety

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six. Sit back, relax with
a forty four ounce bladderbuster and some purple

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sticky punch because we're heading to biodome. Iron Man, iron Man. I

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can't poment that's Spider Man Black seven? Did iron Man? Oh? Come

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on, what do you think you're
so smart? What do you think you're

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some rocket scientist? Yes? Sorry, Button Doyle needed to impress their girlfriends.

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You guys, let's show the girls
that we care about the environment too,

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do we? So they broke into
the experiment of the century. Welcome

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to Paradise. Can you least make
your taste like chicken? Because I'm gonna

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shrive up like a super model biodome. I am so fat. Nobody likes

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it. Starts Friday. So,
after being dumped by their eco conscious girlfriends

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in the Arizona Desert, Bud and
Doyle stop to use the bathroom at what

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they believe is a new shopping mall, but as in fact a high profile,

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secure biological experiment worth millions of dollars. Trapped inside with the scientists for

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one year, they must come to
terms with their reckless behavior. This is

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one of those movies, right,
like your initial thoughts, Well, it's

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weird because, as I mentioned to
you before we jumped on here, I

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was asked after I watched this movie, did you lose brain cells? Of

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that happened, but the first thing
that stuck out number one. I'm completely

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surprised by the fact that this movie
made money because, as you know,

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you know what, I guess it's
seven out of every ten films lose money,

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and you know, one out of
every I don't know, a couple

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hundred are are something like A Home
Alone where they hit it out of the

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park that and then it came out
from MGM, the same people who put

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out you know, Bond and and
you know the brat Pack movies and all

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its kind of classy stuff. But
the other thing that stuck at was it's

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considered to be one of the worst
films ever made. So I mean,

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I think that there's a context of
the times, a lot of innuendo and

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a lot of stupid humor, but
you know, it was fun. Parts

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of it were fun, and a
lot of it is ridiculous, and it

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kind of wears on you a little
bit, as Polly Shore does. But

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yeah, I mean it's it's nothing
that you wouldn't expect. There's no showstoppers

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and no major surprises. You're not
going to decide also on the Polly Shore

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or Stephen Baldman a Lawrence Olivier.
But yeah, that's kind of a sprinkling

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reminds me a little bit of Empire
Records in terms of it's a little of

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bit sprinkling of everything in the nineties, from haircuts to sort of the mannerisms

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that people that were sort of projected
as what was common in the time.

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Just everything down to like how dudes
wore their pants or which shoes they wore,

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you know, catchphrases. We could
go into all that, but I

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mean, yeah, I mean,
yeah, let's let's talk about, you

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know, the nineties culture influence on
this film. I mean the first thing

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I think of, you know,
following following Bill and Ted nineteen eighty nine,

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adolescent males are starting to be represented
as like stoners, slackers, the

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extreme guys. I mean, think
about think about movies like Point Break Clerks,

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you know with Jansen a Bob Cliffhanger
ninety three, where you got the

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the two kids at all they want
to do is just climb mountains and halo

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jump. Like. The nineties kind
of gave birth to this this concept that

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you know, you had these two
two guy you know, these two male

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characters that were inseparable, you know, and maybe I'm not all that bright.

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Yeah, there's I mean, and
it goes further, It goes even

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into I mean, we those are
all like sort of suburban white males.

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I don't know if you remember a
show called Homeboys Outer Space. It was

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I'm like whatever whatever they called it. Then when it was this the CW,

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the WB network or something, yeah, seven names ago from whatever that

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network is now CW, it was
a well, I mean so yeah,

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the buddy comedy. It's like a
dumb down buddy comedy Dean Martin, Jerry

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Lewis. But you know there are
punchlines that come on when the punchlines are

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supposed to, but they're almost dumbed
down, and they're almost sort of I

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don't know. There was this one
thing I keep harping back, and I

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talked about this I hint as strongly
in my book with my narrator talking about

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the main character Derby, is that
there was a huge emphasis on authenticity and

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just kind of letting your hair down
and be this. And this is after

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the glamorous eighties and seeing rock stars
dressed up in suits with skinny ties like

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Robert Palmer or you know, Prince
decked out. So the opposite kind of

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took hold. And you know,
we could talk about the gradual nature of

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it, but you know, the
late eighteen n late nineteen eighty nine into

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the nineties and grunge just kind of
fit in there. So yeah, the

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slacker thing just kind of I think
it was maybe an amplification of the let

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your hair down be authentic. It's
okay to be you know, just kind

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of a person who doesn't have aspirations
and almost maybe if you take another step

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to like the Ethan Hawk character in
what's that movie with brown up blaket,

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reality bites, Reality bites. Yeah, but it's almost like a bad thing

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to be too ambitious. That was
sort of the background narrative. So of

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course we're gonna get buddy comedies with
these guys who have no ambition, who

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don't consider anything important. As an
amplification of that, it was sort of

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the talisman of the time and also
an exaggeration of you know, whether you

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want to say it's the best or
the worst or the extreme of what was

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going on. I mean, I
think there's a little superficiality to it,

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which I can go into and that
with Empire Records and some other films that

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came out Scream, but I think
there was a it kind of met a

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market segment, if you know what
I mean. And we can talk about

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that on the back end of this
if you want. Yeah, well,

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you know, speaking of marketing,
the marketing to it, you know,

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Paul shores empty MTV royalty right at
this point. You know, he's got

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he's got Encino man, he's got
son in law behind him, and uh,

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you know you were talking about Stephen
Baldwin. He's a he's on a

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slow burn of success. You know, he's got, he's getting, he's

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gaining the pedigree, he's got casualties
of war. He's got eight seconds,

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the usual suspects. You know.
The target audience, which I think is

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fair to say, is is the
MTV generation. They love the movie initially,

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yeah, or they're not gonna not
go see it, They're gonna see

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it if they're moviegoers on the weekends, or you know, I guess in

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very classic nineteen nineties, since we
had in Chicago here, one of the

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music venues used to have this thing
where they would show second run movies to

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call the Bruin View, where he
could pay initials three bucks and then it

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got bounced up to a wopping six
dollars to see all three movies. You

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drink a beer, we could smoke
in the theater and smoke some other stuff

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and watch whatever movies were out like
two three months ago. Uh. On

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top of that, every Friday night
for like a year or two, every

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Friday night at midnight was Days Confused. Every Saturday night at midnight was pulp

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fiction. Because we want to want
to see those fifty times. So we're

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going to see oh, absolutely Biodome
on you know, Friday at six and

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grab a slice of pizza while we're
there, and then a couple of beers

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in. We're watching the same scenes
we've seen a number of times with Days

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Confused and you know, loving it
again. So they just yeah, I

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mean the think that he was the
star of the Baldwin star of the mid

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nineties and The Usual Suspects was a
more remarkable film. But also to think

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that he went from that to this, they must it must have been a

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big paycheck involved, or a crafty
maybe a crafty agent at least getting them

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in there. I think. I
think one thing that hurts the movie is

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that me, you and your buddies
aren't going to the brew and view enough

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because it's budgeted, you know,
has an eight eight and a half million

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dollar budget. It grosses thirteen point
four, So immediately think Okay, we

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made some money, but in Jam
drops ten million to market it, so

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it ends up losing money. Okay, well you know more I mean despite

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yeah, I mean, I mean
Kurt Loader and Tabitha Tabitha's sore and are

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telling us, you know, hey, go check this out. And you

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know you got Polly Shore hanging out
at the MTV Beach House. But it

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just wasn't enough. I guess yeah, maybe uh, Kurt Loder wrote poly

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Shore favor or he just held his
tongue because we know Kurt Loder is like

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he's more likely to criticize a sunny
day than than anybody else on earth.

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And you didn't love the movie,
I mean, I didn't love the movie,

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but I'm not gonna get bit out
of tape about the language using the

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innuendo. But yeah, I mean
again it's but what we also want to

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highlight, and maybe uh one grace
of is that we need to see a

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first glimpse of Jack Black and Tenacious
D Yeah playing on campus and obviously they

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had staying power too. Fifteen the
sames and trees. We just want trees.

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Don't say we didn't say some freaking
trees. So someone you could you

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could debate whether or not he has
staying power. Uh. This is originally

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intended as a comedy vehicle for Harland
Williams. He's under the impression from the

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director that it's it's gonna make him
a star. And meanwhile, MGM already

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has deals in place with with Polly
Shore. So he's you know, he

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has that quick brush with fame and
then he's he's out. Is this Andy?

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Is this a better film with Harlan
Williams, uh taken over for Pauli

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Shore. I mean I can't know. I mean I don't I don't see

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anybody taking this leet other than Pali
Shore. Okay, So I mean it's

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just kind of a poly short type
of movie. And I don't really think

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that, you know, you got
a hand to the guy. Paui Shore

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knows who he is. And again
maybe ninety's authenticity. You know, he

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wasn't trying. He did stand up. His mom owned the comedy store,

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Missy Shore and around, just like
Slash grew up with. Supposedly all these

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great songwriters and album covered his and
rock Royalty. I mean, basically,

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Pauli Short is the same thing in
La and the comedy and he's not trying

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to get in there and say,
well, do you know who my mom

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is? I should be getting roles
that Tom Cruise is getting. He kind

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of just rolls with it, probably
loves his gig on MTV, doesn't have

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to work too hard and gets to
be who he is in this movie.

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And you know, it kind of
makes you wonder like is there a script

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or is it just like uh,
what we hear about the hangover, Like

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a lot of the or a lot
of the scenes just kind of ad libbed

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and turned out better. When Paully
Short's doing his yo buddy type thing and

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and Stephen Faldwin's acting stone laughing.
I don't know the answer to that,

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but yeah, this this is Polly
Short throw and through nobody else. I

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mean, I don't know, I
don't know. I don't know either,

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you know, I have to.
I have to wonder like if someone sitting

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down writing scenes where Stephen Baldwin is
biting Pauli Shorre's toenails, you know,

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and they're they're sniff each other's fart. So it just doesn't seem like the

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kind of thing like a writer's gonna
sit there and go, oh, yeah,

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this I'm gonna write this scene and
it'll work. That's to me that

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sounds like Pauli Shore. He's just
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let's let's do this thing. Let's
let's look like jackasses this way. You

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know. Harlan Williams is the guy, isn't he the guy in the abs

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in six minutes guy? And uh
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hitchhiker. Yeah. So I mean
there's certain character actors that when you look

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at all the stuff they've done and
then who like they're married to and all

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the right, like, wow,
this isn't just some stupid even this movie

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that I like, these guys are
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one of that, and Dak Shepperd's
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I have to say, But I
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I'll put it this way. And
the fact that we have the uptight doctor

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from Ghostbusters, the pa oh yeah, William Atherton William Mathews playing the brilliant

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sort of doctor. And he's actually
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use them a little bit too,
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I don't know, And it's uh, maybe we can talk about the quality

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of the writing here and the story
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me if you think gets worth to
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working parts that are sort of working
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know for sure. You know,
you mentioned Stephen, Stephen Baldwin, you

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know, how do he gets how
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It's funny. His older brother Alec
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movie, it will kill his career. And when you think of the trajectory

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that he was on, you know
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under his belt. After this,
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Viva Las Vegas or Viva Viva Rock
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plays a scientist Kylie Minoque. She
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this movie was her worst career move. Ever, so it's definitely got some

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some hate from from people. But
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saying, it's you know you should
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not hurt Kylie UNA's career in Britain
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want to hear your your take on. Let's talk about this film soundtrack because

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we've got some some incredible nineties music. You know, fourth Grade Nothing opened

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in that opening credits, which is
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I've ever seen in a movie.
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loud, bright abstract imagery flying by
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there's bands like Wax, Magnapop Dance, all Crashers. Ah, you've got

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a great Uh, let's let's jump
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a quick second. You've got an
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excellent Spotify playlists for three now you're
on three okay, the third one.

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Any tracks you're hearing that when you're
watching this movie recently, and any any

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songs come to mind where you're like, yep, that's on the list,

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or did you hear ones who are
like, you know what, I'm adding

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that one? No, I mean
I don't, I mean yeah. The

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soundtrack on this one is very nineties. And this is the same issue I

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have with Empire Records is where I
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and the people who put together soundtrack, you know, aren't necessarily I know

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that they aren't necessarily related. They're
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in the production company and the big
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don't know how those decisions are completely
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somebody who's a you know, somebody
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from the front end. I think
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Empire Records a biodome. I wasn't
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nineties ish playlist, but I also
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of like, let's pick out some
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like that are sort of they're alternative, but they're market tested, and that's

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why I wasn't particularly impressed with it. I mean, a separate thing about

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Empire Records is I do feel like
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all right, this is this is
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white kids who have their dreads and
they're wearing junkos and baggy pants and they

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drink mountain dew. So like,
let's line up all the dots here and

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make sure that certain things look a
certain way. And we got a nineties

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hit on our hands, which is, you know, to what people with

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in the eighties. It's it's I
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you know, the soundtrack was just
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that would make a business sense type
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that isn't that great from the nineties, like Sliver or uh and I hate

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the people in this movie, but
cruel intentions those soundtracks rock actually is his

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nineties soundtrack. I mean more than
I mean every every type of like I

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never watched Melrose Place or any of
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people that if I was violent in
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in the face. Don't watch a
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pretty freaking awesome, and so was
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not melrose Place nine O two Win
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my job and I'd want to watch
like Fresh Prince or MTV, and my

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roommate would be watching nine O two
and oh, and I'd be like,

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Oh, there's the Flaming Lips and
he's like, who, Like, you

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don't know who the Flaming Lips are? Okay? And then they would have

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like letters to Klio and all these
good bands, and so sometimes you know

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they work in I think sometimes in
Hollywood they trust the music people to come

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up with like this is your bag, dude, like pick us out some

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good bands. And other times I
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like all right, Geffen, all
right, Slash Records, who you got

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who you're promoting this month? That
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feel like that's where we were.
So I'm not trying to shoot your jam

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session down here. To use a
Wesley Willis term, but yeah, I

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wasn't terribly impressed, and I'm not
expecting Alison Chains and Torry Amos on these

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soundtracks necessarily, but yeah, I
don't know, they kind of fit the

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bill. And I also don't think
that the songs are necessarily that memorable.

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It is a music's novel, I'll
say. Okay, so I think it's

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fair to say then if you're giving
this the soundtrack a pass fail grade where

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you're going to fail it now,
I mean I would give it. I

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give it a B minus for efforts. Mind, Okay, does the does

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the eighties representation with songs like Safety
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Does that help the soundtrack? I
think it does because there's and I

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don't know if it was intentional,
but there is a sort of a soundtrack

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to it that a part of the
soundtrack. Sorry, is where I'm trying

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to say, is there's a part
of a nostalgic aspect to the soundtrack that

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obviously they deemed important. Why they
picked the ninety songs they picked either they

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thought there this is going to be, you know, remembered in thirty years,

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or they just I think that actually
they didn't really think it through that

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much and it's like, yeah,
Wax is a hot new band, let's

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put him on here. Wax didn't
really stick around. I remember that they

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had a pretty cool uh move or
sorry video on MTV where like some dudes

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on fire running down the street,
and that caught my eye for about twenty

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minutes. And beyond that, I
don't remember anything about Whack. So yeah,

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they did a better job with the
eighties music, and maybe at the

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time the economics were it was not
that expensive to get I Want Candy and

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the Safety Dance, whereas you know
Link later had to pay twenty five grand

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just to use Sweet Emotion in the
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but yeah, that that was a
highlight, I suppose. When it comes

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to the prices, I almost wondered
if there's a fire sale going on for

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this guy DJ Apache Indians Boomshock a
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it's on most nineties comedy soundtracks,
because I get you know, it was

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it's memorable from Dumb and Dumber.
But then it shows up in this and

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now I'm starting to wonder, like
how many movies in the nineties did I

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watch where I heard that song?
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again, it does it come down
to the price or does it come

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down to somebody up high saying,
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MTV, you know, have to
pay us for this play guns and Roses,

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Welcome to the Jungle every night at
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Just do it, do it,
do it. I think that could be

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it, but I don't know.
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if you watch shows that are on
now and I'm not a huge TV watcher,

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but my song Who's seventeen and a
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Lucifer, which does a great track. I mean they really took care to

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to really, you know, put
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a song that pops out with that
I'm hearing now is have Level Travel by

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the Sonics, which, like that
was a one hit I guess in nineteen

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sixty seven. I can't member of
the band, but I mean, I

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hear that song on car commercials now. I hear I'm in the store.

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It's in heavy rotation. Don't know, don't know if they their managers is

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working on overdrive me like, I'm
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out of the song. Let's do
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or is there some Svengali behind it? You know it? Did Print secretly

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write the song and that's why it's
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I can't tell you why, but
obviously you're getting the fact that there are

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some songs that pop up everywhere and
this is one of those. Yeah,

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So let's talk about the cast performances. Paul Shore. Okay, so we

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talked. You know, he kind
of breaks out with MTV and Sino man

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Son in Law, maybe takes a
little bit of a dip with in the

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Army now, yeah, and then
he follows that one up in ninety five,

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I think with Tea Carreer and Jury
Duty. You know. I yeah,

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well you're not missing much. But
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you know, despite its detractors,
I feel like Biodem's like a step,

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a step in the right direction for
Paul Shore, like he's getting maybe he's

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getting a little bit of it back, and I'm just curious, like he

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has built this persona of the weasel
for like all the nineties, and in

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this movie he's playing someone called Squarely. He goes from the Weasel to Squarely,

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and you see a lot of these
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they're growing up and in his teen
years he's he is the Paully Shore weasel

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character from MTV. So I don't
know what he is. He is he

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holding on a little bit longer to
the to the persona he's built with this

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movie or is or were you just
like, yeah, it's just another poly

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shore vehicle and I'm I'm over,
you know. I After I got to

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college, I lived with the guy
who went to film school undergrad and he

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used to call certain actors non actors. So think about the fact that in

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most of the movies you've ever seen
with Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt is basically

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playing the same guy he's playing.
I mean, maybe there's an exception for

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like seven Years at the Bet,
but probably large Brad Pitt is playing Brad

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Pitt in every movie. Matt Damon
mostly plays himself in every movie. I

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think PAULI Short is kind of like
that, like he's again, he's not

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gonna I don't know, fake an
Australian accent and you know, transformer to

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this this actor that he's not.
And I think this is one of those

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movies that dustly for the budget,
like they're not. This is kind of

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built that they know what the They
know what the delivery method of this movie

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is and who's gonna see it and
where they're going to see it. They're

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not trying to win people over,
and there's not a huge directorial debut going

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on here. I think they knew
what it was and it fit Paully Shore

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perfectly. Again, I don't know
what happened behind the scenes to get him

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to agree to it, or it's
like, oh, well, I don't

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know, CIA and Universal decides that
we owe Pauly Shore one more movie A

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what I what idea is do you
have? Oh you got this the biotome

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thing. Yeah, let's work for
him. We can get him off contract

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now it lets him be himself.
I guess to go back to my original

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point, And you know, I
didn't even think about it till today that

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maybe he's in that categorization of Brad
Pitt and Matt Damon, not as a

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quality but actor, but as someone
who basically plays himself in most of the

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stuff you see. You know,
Sandra Bullock is kind of the same way

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too. Yeah, that you know, they're not gonna shake it up too

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hard. They're not going to be
as multi dimensional as Kate Blanchette or I

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don't know, you know any number
of actors out there that we've seen do

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a million different things. It's Paul
Shore is gonna be Polly Shore in every

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Pauly Shore movie. And if you've
seen the trailers for the Richard Simmons moviecause

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I played Richard Simmons, but you're
also kind of seeing a less silly Pauly

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Shore. Paully Shore is, you
know, pushing sixty. Now, did

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you watch the like the nine minutes
short that they did the court? Juster

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what your thoughts? I mean,
he's I'm watching it and I'm seeing more

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Richard Simmons and I am PAULI Shore. I mean, he kind of it.

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He he does embody it. In
my opinion, I think so too.

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was that Richard Simmons, wherever he

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is, was not pleased about it, and he's sort of coming out of

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the woodwork. At least he's writing
letters or whatever, sending emails up.

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But I feel like it he gave
in the ten minutes I saw there,

403
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:08.480
he gave kind of a what I
would call an honest portrayal. He's not

404
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.559
trying to denigrate the character at all. And at the same time you're watching

405
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.680
him saying why they pick him,
you're saying, like it kind of makes

406
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.240
sense if they pick him, and
it's a different flavor because we've never seen

407
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.519
anybody do Richards. So we've seen
people do John F. Kennedy a million

408
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.359
times. And the only thing that
the only person I think who got it

409
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.200
right was Bruce Greenwood in Thirteen Days. He's the only guy who, Yeah,

410
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:34.359
Kennedy is superficial. The accent's not
that great, the character is not

411
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.160
very deep. I feel like Pauli
Shore in you know, the upcoming movies,

412
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:44.279
he's he's in that territory. He's
not trying to fake it or he's

413
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.559
not trying to be like Anthony Hopkins
was doing Nixon and not really pulling it

414
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.079
off. It's, yeah, it's
a different thing. So I was,

415
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.839
I guess mildly impressed. That's probably
the top of his range outside himself.

416
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.400
But you know, so far,
so good. We'll see. I'll watch

417
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.240
the movie when it comes out.
Probably not gonna go to the heater,

418
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.160
but I'm sure I'll sit on my
couch and watch watch it till it either

419
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.960
gets bad or I'll watch it till
the end. It's talk a minu about

420
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.880
Joey Lauren Adams. You know she's
this is before she does Chasing Amy in

421
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.119
ninety seven, where I kind of
feel like that is her movies where she

422
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.759
really got to break out and she
had a little bit of range in that

423
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.880
one, the Kevin Smith movie.
Here she's kind of doing like the same.

424
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:26.680
You know, hey, we need
a girlfriend, you know, we

425
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:32.839
need a pretty girlfriend for the dufist
that is starring in the movie. So,

426
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.000
I don't know, know, she's
not doing anything special, miss is

427
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.599
she? I don't think so.
I mean she's kind of the little sex

428
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.519
pot with a high pitch voice who
can wear type of her pants. And

429
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:47.880
you know, there are all types
of archetypes of women in the nineties.

430
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.279
I mean we really saw in the
nineties on the music side, women go

431
00:28:53.440 --> 00:29:00.720
from like either cutesie you know Taylor
Day or sorry like Debbie Gibson and Tiffanyil's

432
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.759
pop stars or the sex spot like
Taylor Dane and Madonna, you know,

433
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:08.319
sexpot on steroids to Alanis Morissette.
You're writing in her own songs and just

434
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.799
kind of wearing what she wants to
wear, a jean jacket or whatever,

435
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.319
and you know, selling what seventeen
million records in the first nine months after

436
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.200
Jagged Littlepill came out, and you
know, doing it her way. And

437
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.480
I think maybe some of the downhold
of this movie is that there are some

438
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.400
sort of young people typeass and Scream
is guilty of this too, But yet

439
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.000
Joey Adams has not not been brought
on because she's, you know, the

440
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.759
best acting talent out there. Not
trying to knock her too much, but

441
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.519
she's not. She's not Renees Elwigger, that's for sure in terms of she's

442
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.559
but she's adorable, right, I
mean yeah, I mean if you're a

443
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.920
straight white dude, you'd like,
yeah, I could dig this, and

444
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.200
you're watching with your wife or girlfriend. Now she's gonna be like, Okay,

445
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.200
why are we watching this? So
I mean credit to are filling the

446
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.680
role, but it's not a very
strong role. But you know, the

447
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:03.680
protagonists aren't particularly strong in this film
either. They're sort of categorized by their

448
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:08.160
facial expressions, their jokes, their
air, sort of their Selphamore extensive humor,

449
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.720
and that's sort of the plot you
run with. So yeah, Tracing

450
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.759
Amy was a whole different. I
mean, I think there's so much going

451
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.759
on Chasing Amy that I'm not even
sure that Kevin Smith understood the depth of

452
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:25.599
that movie and how I think it
really took him from Clerk's which is about,

453
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.480
you know, these these dudes hanging
out in New Jersey with nothing to

454
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:33.160
do, to something a little a
deeper, wider conversation about sexuality and what's

455
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.279
normal and what's offensive and what you
know, kind of makes us sit up.

456
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.160
And when when did Chasing Amy come
out? In ninety six, ninety

457
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.880
seven? Okay, yeah, so
and that was light years ahead of where

458
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.279
we are now. I mean it
was, you know, over twenty five

459
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:53.000
years ago, and Kevin Smith was
having a conversation with young America in a

460
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.240
way that nobody else was. And
I think it's good to see Joey Lauren

461
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.559
Adams transformed. Obviously, if you're
saying that seen Baldwin's career went down from

462
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.960
this movie. Obviously, the it
didn't stump Joey laarn Adams to go to

463
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.960
this from I think she was probably
selected for Chamising Game before this, but

464
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.799
you know, she hasn't really had
a stellar deep career either as an actress.

465
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.519
But again maybe she's uh, you
know, she tends to get type

466
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:23.359
cast like some of these other actors
do well. Speaking speaking of that type

467
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.599
casting, William Atherton, he you
know, you think you say the name

468
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.799
you immediately if you're not thinking Walter
Peck, the dick from Ghostbusters, then

469
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.640
you're thinking, uh, Richard Thorne, you know, the dick from from

470
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.119
die Hard. He's always the guy
that you just want to see someone punch

471
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.480
in the face. And here he's
kind of like a he's a kinder guy,

472
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.000
you know, at least he starts
out that way before he goes crazy,

473
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.079
uh and tries to blow the place
up. But what, you know,

474
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.799
I don't know. I don't know
if he was the right choice for

475
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.599
this, you know, especially with
that mullet that he's rocking. It's just

476
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.759
it was a weird I watch it
and I just I can't not see Ghostbusters

477
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.880
or die Hard and see that guy. And then maybe that's the generational juxtaposition.

478
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.119
He's the guy from the eighties who
is very well spoken and has a

479
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.319
deep voice and as you know,
kind of typecasting an educated person who's trying

480
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:20.960
to be innovative. Wait, you
know, before we knew who Elon Musk

481
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.359
was, before he knew who Jeff
Bezos was, you know, the smartest

482
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:29.799
person in the room was you know, a geek like Bill Gates or the

483
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.720
angry guy in the turtleneck Steve Jobs. There wasn't really other than that.

484
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.039
There were you know, I guess
some character. You know, he kind

485
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:40.599
of he's kind of like a mcguiver, Yeah, like eighties TV character,

486
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.839
kind of guy with the sort of
the blown out mullet and represents, you

487
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.799
know, a generation that told you
that you want to make fun of if

488
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.480
you're these characters. Of course,
even though the guy is kind of nice

489
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.400
of them in the beginning and he's
not a complete dick, and he's trying

490
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.079
to get them into the experiment and
you know, as a variable that could

491
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.240
really help this thing and be open
to them, it's you know, they're

492
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.039
relentless. They still want to make
fun of the guy. So I think

493
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.440
it's a generational choice. And he
represented what he was supposed to represent in

494
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:14.200
that movie as he was presented in
costume. I'll give you a recast.

495
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:19.319
Uh. While, while I love
him playing playing a dick in movies,

496
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.400
I think a better choice with him
John Glover, you know, because he's

497
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.200
shown us he's the nice guy,
he's he's likable, but he's also shown

498
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.720
us how minucing he could be.
You know, like when you look at

499
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.519
like him playing Lionel Luther on Smallville
and you're used to him playing the nice

500
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.799
guy in most of his films.
I would have liked I would have liked

501
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.640
to see him, but uh,
you know, moving on. You know

502
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.519
we got we got a couple of
cameos. You mentioned Tenacious D. They're

503
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:50.799
rocking out on the quad at Arizona
Tech. Rose McGowan, who will see

504
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.079
later this year. In ninety six
in Scream, she kind of shows up

505
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.079
as Joey Lone, Adam's friend that's
trying to get her to go to some

506
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:02.599
keegar to save the rainforest. One
one guy that I love anytime he pops

507
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.360
up in a movie ever since Fast
Times originally High I'm talking about Taylor Negron.

508
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:14.880
He plays the Joey Loan adams mom's
boyfriend. Russell. Oh yeah,

509
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:20.320
yeah, Yeah, he's a real
slimy guy. Yeah, another eighties generational,

510
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.280
like the douchey generation older than us. Yeah, the la guy who

511
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.280
is you know, can't get off
the couch because he doesn't want to,

512
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.679
you know, mess up his loafers
or whatever. I think. Yeah,

513
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:36.679
he's he's definitely perfect for that role. Yeah, and I think that's kind

514
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.440
of a generational juxtaposition as a choice
in this film. And hats off to

515
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.599
them to try to separate the the
you know, the forty somethings from the

516
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.480
twenty somethings, or the thirty nine
year old from the twenty two year old,

517
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.719
and you know, make them contrast
a little bit, not just in

518
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.440
the lines they wrote for them,
but the way they look and dress,

519
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.159
I think is something that stood out
here. Well, let's take a quick

520
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.960
break, and when we come back, we'll be keeping it real. We

521
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.920
got a couple questions for Andy.
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It's time to keep it real.
So let's start with Uh, I got

538
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.639
I got a couple questions for you, Andy. Uh. Let's start off

539
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:25.920
with the fact that one of our
favorite actors, Billy Zopka, was dominating

540
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:31.360
Dojo's high school cafeterias and college swimming
pools in some of the best movies in

541
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.000
the eighties, then he's he's notably
absent from Hollywood for the most of the

542
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.280
nineties. So the question is,
what about zob I want you to replace

543
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.000
one actor from this film with William
Zopka. Well, am I allowed to

544
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.880
change the the how the three ends? Or go for it? All?

545
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.000
Right? I mean I would just
nick Stephen Baldon and put Billy Zabka in

546
00:36:54.039 --> 00:37:00.119
there. It'll probably be some excellent
fight scenes too, But I don't know.

547
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.920
I mean, yeah, I think
that probably I can't really see like

548
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:08.480
Billy's Abka, you know, the
badass from the Karate Kid who you want

549
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.360
to punch him in the face too, but he comes around. I can't

550
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.440
really see him on the scientific team
because he would just be He's too authentic.

551
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.119
He just couldn't be like, Yeah, I'm gonna roll with this experiment

552
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.519
in this strip mall for a year
and not try to get with Kylie Kylie

553
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:30.440
Minogue or Derek tom Jonovich or whoever
unless he was the cop or something,

554
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:36.039
you know, in the way in
the beginning and the way into the Yeah,

555
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.079
I guess what you're hinting at is
that we can look back at sort

556
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:44.400
of these minor who were kind of
minor actors in the eighties that they were

557
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.679
type cast people, and then when
they come back twenty five thirty years later,

558
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.760
you realize how big their impact on
is when they step on set and

559
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.679
when they're on screen, even if
they were given a secondary role or they're

560
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.800
the antagonist and they never they don't
win in the end. That totally builds

561
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:04.360
up could could have been in this
movie and completely change the trajectory of it.

562
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.159
And obviously is a way better actor
than someone like Steven Baldwin. So

563
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.840
if he, if he was the
sidekick, definitely Pauli Shorts character, he'd

564
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.199
be a better guy, and he
might get his actors together a little bit,

565
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.800
you know, try to. I
don't know, Andy Well would probably

566
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:29.199
steal his girlfriend too. So well, my hot take, yeah, my

567
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:34.480
hot take, I'd replace William Atherton. Let's let's see him play the role

568
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.480
like a young, brilliant but assertive
scientist who maybe has a little bit,

569
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.599
a little bit of a slimy side. Maybe he's trying to get with both

570
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:47.079
the girls, you know, or
what's that have a short patience for these

571
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.920
guys. For sure, Oh,
he would, he definitely would, And

572
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.400
he would also he'd offer button Doyle
a worthy adversary. You know, William

573
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.920
Athorts is just kind of putting up
with all their bullshit about the movie until

574
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.719
he cracks. I feel like Zapka's
gonna make a stand, you know,

575
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:06.639
I could see like poly Shore like
hold on, you know, kind of

576
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.119
kind of cringing and carrying away from
him. But yeah, obviously you're better

577
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.320
at this than I am. I
think if if Zabcover places Atherton, then

578
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.519
before the end of the movie,
s Team Bowlin's character is a broken nose

579
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:23.599
for sure. He definitely does.
Let's talk SQL prequel remake. So if

580
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:29.320
you control this ip, what would
be your pitch to the studio to revive

581
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.320
it? Are you gonna are you
gonna do a sequel, a prequel or

582
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.360
a remake? Well, you say
prequel. In the first thing, I

583
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.239
think of his better call Saul,
and I think of I don't remember the

584
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:43.519
actress name, the bald guy who's
kind of scary, who was also in

585
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.920
Yeah, I played Mike, Yeah
that guy. Yeah, yeah, okay,

586
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.440
all right, stick him in this. You're already in the desert,

587
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.079
ye stick. Maybe you're not in
Arizona now, you're in New Mexico and

588
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:59.480
the biodome is you know it's controlled
by the Russian mafia or there's there's something

589
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.039
else and you gotta fixer all of
a sudden, or the fixer's right hand

590
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.960
man to you know, he's someone's
gonna turn up dead in the biodome.

591
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:14.400
That might be a not a prequel, but yeah, maybe he's a Paully

592
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.719
Short's father and oh, okay,
and his disappointed father. I would think

593
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:25.360
it's very disappointed father, who I
don't know is was on a crack team

594
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:31.519
with UH, you know, in
in Vietnam with UH, with Chuck Norris.

595
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:36.079
Of course, you know, I
don't know. I'm thinking of like

596
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.880
Missing an Action part three or something, whatever we call it. And that's

597
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:44.320
the prequel. Maybe he comes out
the sequel. He's gonna rescue his son.

598
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:50.880
Paully Shore Squirrely, whatever his name
is is is now revered UH as

599
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.599
by accident as an environmentalist for helping
pull off the biodome, and you know,

600
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.880
all of a sudden, his his
his grubby dad comes back from history

601
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.519
and wants to set the record straight. And you know there's one hundred million

602
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.480
dollars in a bank account that he
needs his son's help to you know his

603
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:13.320
son's unwinning help for him to access
just like he too. I like it,

604
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.280
who knows? I you know again, I'm not great at this.

605
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.039
I don't know how you do a
prequel for something like this because I don't

606
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.840
really think that the underlying plot is
all that interesting. It's it's sort of

607
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.480
a acts as like a comedy sketch
on stage type plot that there's a couple

608
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.760
of beats that you can do and
then it gets old. But maybe the

609
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.239
sequel is a lot more sinister and
yeah, you the got that. You

610
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.519
got Sasha Baron Cohen comment come in
and he's the long lost father, he's

611
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.480
the rival scientist. And William Averton, Oh, I like that one scientist

612
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.679
realize that there was all a hoax. The biodome wasn't really it was really

613
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.480
controlled by an underground air conditioning unit
and they were I don't know Portillo's every

614
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:59.119
day and didn't he's you know,
he's I think the sequel is the way

615
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.239
to go. As recently as twenty
seventeen, both Paully Shore and Stephen Baldwin

616
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.920
expressed a desire to do it.
So I say up the stakes and put

617
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.639
these two idiots on like the International
Space Station somehow, you know, where

618
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.239
they can, you know, screw
things up, lovable hijinks, and then

619
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.719
they gotta save mankind. But we
might see a biodome two before we know

620
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:28.840
it. One more question for keeping
it real. DVD extras. In nineteen

621
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:34.960
ninety six, the DVD format is
initially introduced to US markets, and while

622
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:39.679
the simplicity of the compact disc pleased
US, the high definition wowed us and

623
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.119
had us tossing out our VHS tapes. But for cinophiles, the exclusive special

624
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:52.760
features were usually a no frills package
of scene selection, French and Spanish subtitles,

625
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.800
and a trailer. So my question
to you, what DVD extra would

626
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.440
you want on your DVD for this
film? You can choose between an audio

627
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.800
commentary, deleted scenes, or a
making of documentary. I would say,

628
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.280
well, I don't know, all
right, so I'll just put out there

629
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.159
that I've not seen everything. My
favorite all time DVD extra, if you

630
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:21.599
would classify it, is I think
from the Hangover is it for two or

631
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.480
three? Where you they talked to
Ken Jung and mister Chow is a real

632
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.000
person and Ken Jung's a map character
and he kind of imitates you know,

633
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.800
like, oh, how are you
doing? I'm Ken Jung. Really,

634
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.400
mister Chow is the real person,
mister Chow. Yeah, I love stuff

635
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.079
like that, So I mean I
would say an extra like that. That's

636
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:45.000
sort of a behind the scenes gotcha
type of thing where yeah, maybe it

637
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.519
was, uh, I'm not sure
how you'd go about it, but yeah,

638
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.360
there's some sort of roague character in
here that you know. Kylie Minogue

639
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.039
is I don't know, she's really
not like Milli Vanilli. She really didn't

640
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.519
sing all those songs. It was
was Pauly Shore. Paul Shores got a

641
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.800
great singer, you know. Then
you cut to she's on stage, dance

642
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.639
around. You cut behind the scenes
you see Polly Shore with the headphones on

643
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:14.360
like you're aware and actually belting out
the tunes with his voice, and thank

644
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.880
god for Polly Shore. A terrible
actor, we're a great singer. Nobody's

645
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.519
known this, but now you know, audience, how about that? Hey,

646
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:22.960
you and I are down man?
Because uh, in my notes I'm

647
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:30.960
looking at I say give me a
poly Shore Steven Baldwin in character audio commentary

648
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:37.320
because it would just be ridiculously stupid
but fun, I think, you know,

649
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:38.679
like, oh, you know,
Hey, this is you know,

650
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:45.159
hearing them discuss the film like like
they actually were playing themselves. They were

651
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.599
the people that I think that'd be
kind of cool. I'm a huge Beavis

652
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.199
and butt Head fan, and I
would say that Beavis and butt Head what

653
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.840
it does. So we're talking about
the buddy thing and oh yeah, unintelligent.

654
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.440
You know, people have given it
more than five minutes. I know

655
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.920
that it's not just you know,
them making far jokes and stuff. There's

656
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:07.760
actually a lot of beefs and buttead
is really all satire in social commentary.

657
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.400
They're making fun of the characters that
they are that are riff raff America,

658
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.440
while they're also commending on you know, they're making fun of with the videos

659
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.840
they're watching, the movies or whatever
the TV. You know, maybe even

660
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:24.480
something like that that behind the scenes
you realize that Beaves and butt Head,

661
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.920
you know, these guys Paul Shore
and Set Baltimore supposed to be them,

662
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:34.119
but they really did a terrible job, and the artists behind the the idea

663
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.000
of the film are really disappointed,
and you know, I don't know,

664
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:43.599
maybe something like that. Let's talk
about the film's legacy. So when we

665
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.320
talk Biodome and how it's aged over
time. Andy, would you say this

666
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.199
is a classic, a cult classic, or just a product of its time.

667
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.000
I think it's just a product of
its time. I don't think it's

668
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.119
a classic or cult class sick by
any stretch. And I also don't think

669
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.719
people will fight me on this.
I don't think Scream is and I don't

670
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.079
think Empire Records are classic. Maybe
Scream is a little bit in a kitchyway

671
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:13.039
and in the same way that the
Nightmares on Elm Street are if you consider

672
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.559
sort of a kitschy genre classic.
But yeah, Biodome, I mean,

673
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:21.320
I don't know that it was meant
to be a complete throwaway movie, just

674
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.039
kind of throwing something out there.
But like I put it up against let's

675
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.880
say, a movie like The Brady
Bunch Movie, which is a reboot,

676
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:30.760
but the brilliant Brady Bunch Movie,
which I think is one of the better,

677
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.480
better comedies of the nineties. That
they have this clueless family that's still

678
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:37.880
in the sixties, which is the
same Brady Bunch of people that were on

679
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:43.239
the show in the sixties, living
in the nineties around grunge, around devious

680
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.880
people, and they're all sunshine and
rainbows and everything. Yeah, I mean

681
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:52.119
I think that this Biodome is just
sort of let's put Baldwin and Shure out

682
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:57.360
there and have them be their hey
buddy's silly thing and you know, make

683
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.199
it crazy and put a soundtrack out
of make it very nineties, and don't

684
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.320
really think that it didn't fail completely. But it's not a talisman of the

685
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.599
nineties the way that a number of
other movies we could talk about are.

686
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:13.239
So if not a talisman, is
it is Biodeme a strong representation of nineties

687
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:19.159
culture? I think it's a strong
representation of nineties corporate film trying to come

688
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.760
along again. Remember we went from
okay, so this came out in ninety

689
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:28.280
six gun completely new. But if
you were a forty five year old movie

690
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.800
director or producer that said had success
on Hollywood at the start of the nineties,

691
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.559
you're going, wait, wait,
why why isn't Springsteen big anymore?

692
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.079
What people don't want to listen to
a CDC Alison Chains who lanasmar set.

693
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:47.960
You know, people were wearing the
cool people are wearing flannels on in concert

694
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.719
in front of a crowd of fifty
thousand people, And then what you do

695
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.960
is you kind of structure a movie
and a character set around what you have

696
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.079
just noticed is the failing style of
the time. And I really think that's

697
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.719
what Biodome is. It was,
you know, here's where the market's going,

698
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.440
Here's what those crazy kids are wearing
and saying and listening to. Here's

699
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.159
the catchphrases they used to, musical
they listened to. So let's make that

700
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:21.360
in a movie. And you know, that's definitely inauthentic way to put together

701
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:22.719
a movie. And I think they
try to be earnest about it and really

702
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:27.360
be with the times. They did
a little bit, but they didn't.

703
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.119
They didn't do it by putting together
a great product. And that's that's just

704
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:36.360
Hollywood and that's filmmaking. Sometimes I
agree Stoner Bros, Hot Girls, alt

705
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:42.239
rock and eco themed parties on campus. It definitely says says nineties a lot,

706
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.719
but maybe doesn't say maybe doesn't capture
the essence of what the nineties were

707
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:52.280
about. So andy, it's it's
always a pleasure, man. I gotta

708
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.679
know what's next for you, And
please please say a film version of ninety

709
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.840
Days in the Nineties is coming soon. Well, I don't know about that.

710
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.239
We did have someone option in the
film rights for ninety days in the

711
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:07.280
nineties. Talked to with an up
and coming an investor who's also done a

712
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:13.360
couple of I guess documentary type things, and I don't know the story.

713
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.840
I had this guy connect with me
back about April last year. I didn't

714
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.719
know who he was at first,
and he, you know, he just

715
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.679
kind of like emailed me out of
the blue. We talked, we did

716
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.519
a zoom and all that stuff,
and yeah, I think what he told

717
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.400
me was that, yeah, I
was in I was in LA. I

718
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:31.000
was talking with a film director's a
pretty successful guy from my hometown in Texas,

719
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.639
and I think what he told me
was we had a margu reader two.

720
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.840
We were talking about breath the nineties
were and we should do a movie

721
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.760
about the nineties. And I went
home to my Hometo hotel room and just

722
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.679
went on Amazon ordered twelve books,
and years popped up and I read it

723
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.119
in a day or two. I
was like, Oh cool, what'd you

724
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:51.199
think. I loved it. So, yeah, it took a little while,

725
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.880
but someone optioned the film rights,
which doesn't mean that's going to be

726
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.880
made into a movie, but it
could be, so we'll see I'll let

727
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.679
devil let you know if the trigger
is pulled. But yeah, somebody has

728
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.840
the rights to do that, and
that's kind of where it begins. I

729
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.880
hope that's the case next time you're
with us. In the meantime, where

730
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:12.800
can our listeners get access to you
and the book and your social media presence?

731
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.320
Yeah, I mean I'm on Insta, a little bit less on Twitter

732
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.320
now that it's going the way that
has. But if you want to check

733
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.119
me out Andy Fry dot com,
fry with me on the end. I

734
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.599
mean, you get a sampled by
sports writing other stuff that I do there.

735
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.679
But the first thing comes up is
the book. If you want to

736
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.719
order it from Amazon, it's right
there and be at your house and today.

737
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.159
If you want to sign copy,
you can do that too, and

738
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:37.400
I can send it to or can
can sign it for conscript it to your

739
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.079
uncle Larry or whoever in the front
of the book, if that's what you

740
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.119
want to do, And a portion
of it goes to charity. There's a

741
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.800
charity called Katie's Kids. I donate
some money too that. What they do

742
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:53.320
here in Chicago is they set up
field trips for physically disabled kids who can't

743
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.039
walk around in the museum by themselves
or can't do rock claim by it,

744
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.239
but they want to do all the
fun stuff that we get to do when

745
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.599
we have weekends. So yeah,
definitely try to. It's mentioned in the

746
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.159
front of the book, but yeah, Andy Pride dot com or Nineties in

747
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.920
the Nineties dot com or if you're
on Spotify. I got three I think

748
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.519
it got free. Maybe even got
four playlists in the works now, but

749
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.960
all with different flavors. You know, ninety songs, most of them from

750
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:21.239
the nineties. I try to.
I guess retell the story of the decade

751
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:28.199
as I remember it. It's fantastic. Man listeners, definitely check out Andy's

752
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.320
website, get a copy of this
book. You are absolutely gonna love it,

753
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.360
and thank you for checking out the
first episode of our limited nineteen ninety

754
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.320
six series. We're gonna cover a
lot of movies from the year, but

755
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:45.280
we won't get them all in so
let us know which film from nineteen ninety

756
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.199
six is a must, or maybe
you've got a hit in gym to recommend.

757
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.639
Please let us know. You can
email us at a Film by Podcast

758
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.679
at gmail dot com, or hit
us up on our social media channels,

759
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:02.800
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and
as always, our website www dot a

760
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.159
film by podcast dot com. We
got a bounce, but next time.

761
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:12.599
On nineteen ninety six, my Home
Skillet, Jason Covin will join us for

762
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:19.960
a nutty conversation about an Eddie Murphy
film that stars plenty of Eddie Murphy's peace

763
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:37.559
Out. I'll tell you what,
zab cobra Kai made me realize how much

764
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:38.719
it reminded me when it came out. I was like, I never really

765
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:42.320
liked Daniel LaRusso. I just thought
he was a kind of a whiny bitch.

766
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.599
Right, thank you,