1996: Independence Day

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Again. For those of you a
just joining us, we understand President Whitmore

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is at an undisclosed air Force base
and he's ready to address the troops.

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We'll take you there now. In
less than an hour. Aircraft from here

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will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest

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stereo battle in the history of mankind. Mankind words should have new meaning for

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all of us today. We can't
be consumed by our petty differences anymore.

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We will be united in our common
interest. Perhaps spate that today is the

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fourth of July, and you will
once again be fighting for our freedom,

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not from tyranny, oppression, or
persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting

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for our right to live, to
exist, and should we win, the

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day, the fourth of July will
no longer be known as an American holiday,

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but as the day when the world
declared in one voice. We will

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not go quietly into the night.
We will not vanish without a fight.

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We're going to live on. We're
going to survive. Today we celebrate our

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Independence Day. Okay, what's up, everybody. I'm Jeff Johnson from a

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Film By podcast, and I am
hoping you're down for our latest dope new

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series. We've broken down the fresh
films of nineteen eighty six, we examined

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the gritty cinemascape of nineteen seventy six, and now it's time to check out

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the Hella good Flicks of nineteen ninety
six. I am so happy to have

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my good buddy, Jason Colvin.
He's back. Thanks for having me on.

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Man, I'm so excited to do
this one. Yeah, you and

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I have been talking off air about
this for a couple of weeks now,

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and I let you in on a
secret that when I saw this in the

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theater I had kind of a bad
attitude about it, and so this is

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a second time watch for me.
I have been just dying to know how

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this is going to go for you, because I was, honestly, I

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was kind of shocked because over on
the show you can't be serious podcast.

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You and d You're always doing these
awesome matchups, and it's always these awesome

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movies or albums from the eighties from
the nineties, and this is a this

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is a big one for the nineties. So when you said that, I

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was like, I can't wait to
hear what he's gonna have to say.

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So Jason, I hope. You've
got your victory dance ready. It's time

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to kick the tires and light the
fires. For the top grossing film of

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nineteen ninety six, Independence Day.
This summer plan, You'll get away early.

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Please leave these cities in a quarterly
fashion. Beat the summer traffic,

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nice driving times, and whatever you
do, don't look up Comedy Earth Independence

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Day rated pg. Thirteen. When
a strange phenomenon enters the Earth's atmosphere,

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global curiosity give way to terror when
the skyes at night, destroying major cities

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around the world. The invading Aliens
mission total annihilation of the human race over

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the Fourth of July weekend. Our
last hope to stop the destruction is an

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unlikely group of people united by fate
and unimaginable circumstance. Jason. Before we

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even jump into some of the segments
that we like to do on nineteen ninety

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six, let's hear it. How
does the Second Chance watch? How'd this

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hold up for you? Okay,
so forty years later, here's the thing.

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Here's the thing. I don't like
to be browbeaten. And in the

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summer of nineteen ninety six, I
had all my friends browbeating me about how

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awesome this movie was. I needed, what's taking you so long? Get

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to the movie theater, you know, And and so I felt I felt

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pressured into liking this movie. And
when I feel pressured, I'm just like,

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hey, everybody, back off.
Okay, it's not that great.

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Come on, guys, this is
you know, this is not a Blade

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Runner, you know. Uh,
but after the rewatch, it does have

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some wartz and it is a little
bit corny, but it is a lot

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of fun. And this is a
movie that I would give my right arm

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if this was in the movie theater
today, because there is nothing for me

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in the movie theater right now.
And I would die to have a movie

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like this in the theater. You
know. You mentioned it's corny, but

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it's also just and special effects extravaganza
and could I mean, you're right,

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I would give anything to have a
movie this fun in the theaters. We

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had, and we had it last
you know, last summer. We had

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some good stuff. I'm hopeful for
this summer with some of the movies coming

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out, but you're absolutely right,
they just don't make them like this anymore.

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I loved, I mean, we
can get into it, and you

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know, the special effects this is
this is before CGI took over everything,

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and so you have this combination of
sort of you know, I think you

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have some projector use. I think
you've got miniatures. I know you've got

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great miniature use, and then some
CGI. It's a little bit old school.

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It's it's right at that moment in
time when special effects were changing,

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and the effects shots are money shots. Man a white house, all right,

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Gosh, I would say, pound
for pound, the explosion of the

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White House probably one of the greatest
special effects scenes of all time. I

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agree, it's an iconic shot.
Yeah. Let's speaking of iconic, let's

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talk about nineties culture, specifically nineties
culture and how it influenced this film.

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Now, I picked up on a
couple of things watching it this time around,

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and I want to see what you
know. I want to see if

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you had any any other ones that
I that I missed. But you know,

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clearly this is nineteen ninety six,
so this is the dawn of the

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Internet. But I love that pagers
are still a very important aspect of people's

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communication. You've got the Apple Power
Book fifty three hundred laptop that David's using

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Jeff Goblum's character, right, and
you got Mary Hart on Entertainment Tonight talking

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about the Party of the Century,
and then you've got you got the McLoughlin

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group. You know, President Whitmore
is watching his uh you know, the

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John McLoughlin tearing and tearing him down. Yeah, that's true. I think

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I always love when, uh,
when real TV shows are real celebrities lind

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their lind their their their character.
If you will, to movies. You

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know this movie, like, yeah, it's it's corny, it's a little

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campy. But watching watching President Whitmore
wake up and turn on the TV and

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there's there's a you know, John
McLoughlin tearing him down, It just it

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gives the movie a sense of realism. And I think I'm with you.

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You're totally right about how we used
to. We'd wake up, we turn

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on the TV while we're getting dressed
to see what's happening in the world.

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You know, we'd read the newspaper, you know, and that that all

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has changed. We now it's social
media or it's you know, text whatever.

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But the fact that the president gets
up, he's making some coffee,

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he's talking to his advisor, or
what's happening in the world. He has

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no idea. You know, film
me only you. Yeah so' let's fill

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the listeners in about the film's box
office and critical response. It's the fastest

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film to hit two hundred million dollars
in like less than twenty one days.

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It holds this record for three years. You know what, you know,

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it took it out. We've discussed, Yeah, you and I have discussed

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it recently. It's got to be
Phantom Menace, right, It's the Phantom

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Menace. The Phantom Menace took the
crown. You know, one movie about

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aliens taking it from another about aliens. As I said, it's yeah,

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as I said, it's the highest
grossing film of nineteen ninety six, a

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combined worldwide total of eight hundred and
seventeen point four million dollars at the box

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office. Now, we live at
a time right now where if a movie

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doesn't do a billion dollars, it's
not a smash success. Right, But

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you gotta think this is eight hundred
and seventeen point four million dollars thirty years

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ago, so imagine what that is
today. That's blowing the doors off of

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everything. Yes, this was the
movie event of that summer. It's huge

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and like you said, iconic special
effects, summer fun, you know,

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something for everybody. I don't think
there was a single there's no sex in

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this movie. Nope. There's a
little bit of profanity, but if you're

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bringing the kids to the movie theater, you can cover their ears a couple

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of times and you're the whole family
can have a great time watching this,

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you know, yeah, I mean
and truthfully, like the you know,

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language, I think it's nothing.
It's nothing as harsh as you wouldn't hear

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on like on cable right now,
like like a right prime time you know,

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it's not you know, there's no
f bombs, there's no there's there's

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no breasts exposed. I mean even
you know, we'll get it, we'll

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get to it later. But you
know, we have a character in this

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that's that is a stripper, and
I think she's wearing more than what you'd

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see you were at the public pool
nowadays. So that's right, that's right.

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Critics collectively called out weak character development
and stereotypical characters, but they all

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agreed that this is a thrilling,
spectacle filled summer movie that delivers. And

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I think I saw this probably three
or four times when it came out in

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the summer ninety six. I probably
would have saw it more, but you

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know, this is the summer of
Mission Impossible Twister. I mean, we

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were just getting inundated with blockbuster action
movies. Summer ninety six was a pretty

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pretty darn good summer at the movies. It was a rock and summer man,

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no doubt about it. I I, well, I don't want to

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get into my opinion too quickly,
so okay, let's keep going. Well,

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yeah, all right, well yeah, so this film, when we

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talk about how this came to be, I love this. I love this

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story because it kind of gives me
a George Lucas Spielberg of vibe. But

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while promoting Stargate in Europe, a
reporter cited Roland Emericks non belief in aliens,

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saying, you know, how do
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You don't You don't even believe aliens
exist, And he responded saying that he

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was still fascinated by the idea of
aliens arriving, and then he kind of

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threw it back to the reporter and
said, hey, just imagine what it

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would be like to wake up one
morning and discover an alien presence hovering above

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us and how we would all react
to that. And right then he turned

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to his buddy Dean Devlin and said, quote, I think I have an

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idea for our next film. I
mean providential, right, yeah, I

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mean you know. And the irony
is they're probably sitting there like, look,

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how are we going to follow up
Stargate? What are we going to

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do? And then one weird or
dumb question from a reporter you don't believe

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in aliens? What are you doing
that sparks the biggest movie of nineteen ninety

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six. I love it when that
happens. And creative people and they hear

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good ideas, you know, jot
it down, take it straight to the

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straight to the theaters, and make
a ton of money on it. You

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know. Oh, they're printing money
with this one. Something I don't think

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gets discussed a lot about ID four
because we're gonna talk. We always talk

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about the characters, the memorable characters. We always talk about the special effects.

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We don't talk about the music that
much. And composer David Arnold,

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you gotta remember he won a Grammy
for Independence Day. I mean that's really

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yeah, And and I said,
David Arnold and you didn't immediately like go,

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oh yeah, you know I know
that guy, right, but you

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gotta remember something. So he did
compose the scores for a Stargate and Godzilla.

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You know, he's an emorate guy. Okay, but he's also a

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lifetime Bond fan, which is why
he has done three Brosden era Bond films

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and two Daniel Craig Bond film Really, okay, that's good. Yeah,

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he uh yeah he uh. He
did a Tomorrow Never Dies The World Is

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Not Enough Die. Another day,
he did Casino Reale. He did Quantum

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of Solace. So that is a
that is a lineup of terrible bat Bond

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movies except one. Okay. I
was like, I was like, what

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away, Casino Real isn't there?
Na Royel is the is the diamond in

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the rough there? Okay, So
all right, David Arnold there. Yeah,

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David Arnold underrated, But uh,
I just I just wanted to point

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him out because you know, I
do think the score is pretty cool.

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It's got that booming feel to it, right, It's it's to me,

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it's a little bit over the top. It's a little syrupy. I think

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that it would have been cool to
have a little bit more rock and roll

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soundtrack to this one, because there's
a lot of top Gun ish that you

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see on the screen. Yeah,
I don't know what you're dropping in in

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nineteen ninety six, but you drop
in a couple of hits so it doesn't

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happen. Like think about Top Gun
Maverick. You had the entire score and

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you had uh two twos, you
know. Yeah, I think you're right

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because we we get that one classic
rock instrumental when when Russell is you know,

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he's hung over, he's heading into
the cafe. Yeah, you've heard

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it. You've heard it in a
couple movies like it's I always remember it

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in pulp fiction when they go to, uh the restaurant. You know,

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I don't know if you could hear
it, Like, okay, let me

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let me play a Sleepwalkers. Are
you not Sleepwalkers? You know that one

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is like down down down, Yeah, that one. Okay, I don't

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know what it's called. Ok it's
not the sleep not the Sleepwalkers. La

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Bamba slow slow one. This one's
more of got like a twang to it,

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kind of kind of like a green
onions feel to it. Okay,

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Okay, Like Booker t you know
the one I'm talking about now kind of

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yeah, yeah, I think I
mean in ninety six, you know you

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drop in maybe maybe you have a
love song for for Captain, you know,

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Hiller, Captain Hiller and uh and
Jasmine and Jasmine, Yeah, Jasmine

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song someone something something a little you
know, you drop in a hit song,

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a little love song. You know, I'm thinking collective soul. You

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know, maybe you have a rock
song from Stone Temble Pilots in there somewhere

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you rock it up a little good. I mean, you're if you're talking

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nineteen ninety six, you're talking Dave
Matthews. You know you could be talking

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about hooting the Blowfish Bush Oasis,
about no doubt, oh for sure,

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think about you know yeah I think
you know you could the Wallflowers probably.

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Yeah, all right, you got
me, uh, you got me thinking,

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like now, I kind of want
to I want to do like a

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hit the hit motion picture soundtrack to
this, drop in the Wallflowers, one

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headlight somehow. Yeah, and you
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and you have a hit song,
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V. We're there, okay,
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see the wheel Spin and you're you're
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something different. Uh, so we're
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and you you you sent me this
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I've got several recasting uh suggestions here
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But do we wanna we want to
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do Yeah, we're gonna yeah,
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gonna call the Colvin cast. If
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but we're gonna do the Colvin cast. So I'm ready, all right.

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So and well, you know,
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so we'll we'll try and move a
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But uh will Smith Captain Stephen Hiller. This is the role that was

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offered on a silver platter to Ethan
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he said the script was terrible.
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has done pretty well for himself over
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to think like maybe like by the
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going terrible decision. I have made
a big mistake clearly this role. I'm

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gonna say, well, I don't
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but Will Smith is an upgrade from
Ethan Hawk without a doubt, and I

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love Ethan without a doubt. Yeah, Ethan Hawk's fantastic. But I mean,

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this is nineteen ninety six. This
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the height of his popularity. You
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of bel Air. I think he
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Smith the action hero. This movie
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pre slab Will Smith, when he
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and I mean he looks great.
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you know, when he was in
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I thought, he's he's kind of
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of a lightweight, you know,
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becomes an action star. He's an
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fact that the first contact with an
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face Welcome to Earth, you know, and then he's dragging it through the

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desert and he's arguing with it.
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scene works for me. It's fun
like it's like, Okay, I'm laughing

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at Will Smith, but I'm also
being thrilled by Will Smith because he he's

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a he's a fighter pilot. He
is he is jacked, he's cool.

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Yeah, what's that stuff? Oh
man, you could not you could not

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have casted that role better. I'm
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as President, Thomas J. Whitmore. To take something that you do on

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the show You Can't Be Serious podcast, I'm gonna steal it from you.

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I'm gonna go ahead and spike the
football Bill Pullman best movie President. WHOA,

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Okay, there's there. I mean, there is some legendary guys and

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get out of the way, Michael
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the speech that he gives to rile
up the troops, you know, what

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are we talking? Gettysburg address?
You know, mister tear down that wall.

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Kennedy, you know, asked not
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and then it's it's whitmore. Wow. You know, one of the best

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presidential speeches I've ever heard. I
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year just so we could play it
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one draft pick for recasting. WHOA
Okay, Okay, we're put we'll put

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a pin of it. We're gonna
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sounds I hope, I hope you're
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because Jeff Goldbloom is just gold blooming
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as the the sexy nerdy scientist and
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I love Jeff. Jeff Goldbloom went
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nineties where he went from kind of
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and he had some quirky coolness.
I mean, he's always had that quirky

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coolness. But he looks like a
stud in this movie. Yeah, he's

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he's the Hey, let's save the
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is a really cool moment because you
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to Will Smith has to be more
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think of Martin Lawrence and the Bad
Boys franchise. Right, He's clearly

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not the cool one, he's not
the sexy one. But Goldbloom is is

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taking as much as the camera as
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concerned. Yeah, you know,
the movie that most closely resembles what they're

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what I think they're trying to do
in this cast is Jurassic Park. Yeah.

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He's doctor Ian Malcolm. Right,
He's Ian Malcolm. And you've got

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you know, you have Sam Neil's
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the Will Smith guy in Jurassic Park. Yeah, and they just plug Jeff

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Goblum right into that one. Bee. Yeah, you know, Jeff Golbloom.

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Ian Malcolm. Yep, you know, David Levitson, is Jeff Goldblum the

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answer, Like, when you need
a nerdy but sexy scientist, you have

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to go Jeff goblum. Right,
he's your number one draft pick. Yes,

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he's number one draft pick. I'll
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pick is when it comes to the
First Ladies, Our Gal Mary McDonald Love

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Mary McDonald stands with a fist.
Yeah, she's she's playing First Lady Marilyn

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Whitmore. I think the only problem
that I have is that we just didn't

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get enough performing did We didn't get
enough screen time with her. I wanted

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more scenes with her. They kind
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right. I know we need to, It's it's important to the story.

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But I just feel like Mary McDonald
deserves more than just a couple of

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phone call scenes with with with Bill
Pullman. And I know she has some

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she has some nice moments with with
VIVK Fox, you know, but I

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just wanted to see more Mary McDonald
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have held I think you could have
held onto her till the third act.

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I totally agree. I mean,
she should have been standing there, you

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know, you know, warlorn and
you know, looking a little dirty at

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the end of the movie, and
but victorious. I don't think she had

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to die and now, well I
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emotional moment. I think you're right, and I hate that I'm doing this,

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but it's just I don't have a
choice, because you know, talking

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to you just it inspires me some. I'm covin cutting a little bit.

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I think it would have been great
for Bill Pullman's character. They win the

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day, right, he's excited,
they're celebrating, you know you got you

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got Goldbloom and Smith doing their victory
dance. But he comes back to find

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out that his wife's just passed away
and he missed it. Yeah, you

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know that'd been cool. Yeah,
little girl, maybe little girls sitting there

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with her. That would have been
good, I think. And you have

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some sort of goodbye, like you
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end of the Top Gun where he, yeah, does something in honor of

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her, and at the end of
the movie idea, I'm on with you.

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I'll tell you one of my one
character I think, I I just

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I love, I love. The
more he's on the screen, the better,

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the happier I am. Jud Hirsh
as Julius Levinston David's father. Hirsh

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Now he's playing a little bit of
a stereotypical character. We can say that,

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you know, it's true, right
he but he's I mean, he's

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fun, but he's also he's got
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when he when he tells the president, you know whatever is the President's advisor

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to hey, look, you wouldn't
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ta I don't tell him to shut
up. Yeah, you all be done

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if it weren't for my day.
But yeah, he's that's pretty good.

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You got that one. You know, you got the president and the Secretary

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of Defense shouting at at Jeff Goldbloom
and everyone's it's getting chaotic, and here

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comes jud Hirsh to tell everyone to
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it. And he does have the
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his son is mad and drunk and
upset, and it's he's at the

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end of his rope and he pulls
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I love that about him. He's he

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just wants what's best for David.
But he's even the beginning, when they're

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playing chess in the park, he's
like, come on, it's been three

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years. This is no good,
you know, And he has these fun

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moments too, like when he's talking
to Constance, you know there's still love

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there. And then he goes John
Lennon All you need is love shot,

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very sad. You know, he's
just he has those small little bite sound

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bites that are just that make me
love his character. He's he's fantastic.

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Yeah, I love Judd Hirsh.
Let's talk about couple of supporting players.

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I got, I got someone here, we got. We got to start

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off with Margaret Colin. She plays
Constant Spano nineteen eighty six. She's Molly

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Ringwald's teacher and pretty in pink.
Yes, nineteen eighty seven, she's Tom

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Sellek's girlfriend and three men and a
baby. Yes, and then I you

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know, I don't know where she
goes besides here, but uh, you

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know, I, with all due
respect to miss Colin Jason, shouldn't this

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role have gone to dirty girl Marcedes
Rule? Oh, dirty girl. I

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like it. I think she's closer
in age to go Bloom. I think

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she's a better match. I would
have loved to have seen Marcedes Rule run

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through this movie going ahead to head
with Jeff Golbloom. That would have been

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awesome. Here's the thing with with
Margaret Colin is she I hate to even

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say this, but is she hot
enough to be the steal the president away

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from the first lady. That's a
good point. I'm gonna say, yes,

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okay, because I mean she was, Yeah, she had my like

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in three minutes and a baby.
She had my attention before I understood why

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she had my attention. You know, Wow, Okay, she she you

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know, I it's nothing about her. Look, it's just I don't know.

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I just feel like, uh,
and I'm forgetting the name of the

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actress who played the lead the lead
the lead actress in Big you know what

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I'm talking about, Elizabeth Perkins.
Elizabeth Perkins. I kind of feel like,

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if you're not paying attention Margaret Colin
and Elizabeth Perkins, ye, they're

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doing that. Yeah, they're interchangeable. That It's like it's like what you

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know, It's like we talked about
a Phantom Menace when Nalie Portman and you

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know Rose here at Nightley like there's
like three of them just all wandering around,

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you know, being the princess,
the Queen. I should say,

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I don't know. I just I
feel like I feel like she's a little

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interchangeable. But I also feel like
Mercedes Rule would have ruled this this role.

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I think we'd have been like,
I like that. I like the

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Jeff cut here, Yeah, the
Johnson cut. There we go, dirty

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girl, love it, dirty Girl. Yeah, you know, I mean,

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you know, let's let's uh,
that's not mince words. You and

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I are huge Fraser Fraser fans.
We got the Crane Scrutiny podcast coming back

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soon. Come check us out on
Crane Scrutiny. Yeah, come check it.

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If you like talking about Frasier,
that's that's definitely the Crane Scrutiny is

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is uh? Is your pod?
How about General Gray played by Robert Loja,

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Yes, fantastic, right. My
favorite Robert Lojah moment is in Necessary

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Roughness when he's given the pregame speech
and he's like, we're gonna kill him,

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we're gonna take the and he's cousin
and and then at the very end

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of this super involved speech where all
these terrible, you know, graphic things

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that they're going to do the other
team, he says, let's pray.

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Uh yeah, Robert Man, I
don't you know, I don't know.

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When I think favorite favorite Lojio,
it might be as uh Tony Montana's ill

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fated mentor and scarface. Yeah,
he get high on your own supply,

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or let's not forget he's he goes
up against the loan and over the top.

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Oh, definitely Michael Cutler here's my
boy. Yeah, lojah. I

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believe him like I know, I
know he modeled his performance off with General

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Patten for this. Yep. I
believe him as like the president's right hand

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man though it just fits. Okay, I got a tidbit for you on

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him in regards to this movie.
Okay, what you got. I don't

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know if you heard this or not, but he was asking for some help

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trying to figure out his role,
okay, and the director said, well,

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check out. He meant to say
check out Airport seventy seven. What

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he accidentally said was check out airplane. Oh no, so he watches airplane.

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He didn't. He was not familiar
if you can believe it with either

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of those movies. Unbelievable. He
watches airplane and it's like, what is

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this movie I signed up for?
I had no idea that this is a

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spoof movie. He wouldn't come out
of his trailer. Well, think about

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this. His trailer was probably parked
right next to Randy quay aids. Yeah,

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And let's be honest, Randy Quaid
is playing cousin Eddie in this movie,

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no doubt. Russell Casey, I
get it. He's supposed to be

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an alcoholic and a failure as a
father. But if there is one Looney

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Tunes character in this whole movie,
it's Randy Quaid. And I you know,

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it's fun, but it's also it's
it's it's dialed up. It's so

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far, it's way over the top, you know, And I love I

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love the his ending. He has
one of the most satisfying character arcs,

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probably the best character arc in the
whole movie. And he's got that hero

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moment, you know, tell my
tell my children, I love them.

404
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:44.880
It's great. But you know him, hey my girl, you know,

405
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.000
flying all sideways and his little biplane
and falling out of it. And I

406
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.880
just don't know how to feel about
oh boys, oh boy. Yeah,

407
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.720
yeah, yeah, he's he's he's
out there. But uh, I mean

408
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.880
you can make the same argument,
you know, as far as characters that

409
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:07.079
are out there. Uh. Brince
Spiner as Doctor Oakum, Yeah, he's

410
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.079
over the toppy. I love the
fact that they walk into area fifty one.

411
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:17.319
He comes out cosplaying Dayton Johnson in
a lab coat. He's just you

412
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.759
know, he's like, hey,
they checked me out, Dayton Johnson for

413
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:27.880
Brett Sper. We're jumping it outsting. Uh. When we do the remake,

414
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.680
you're you're doctor Oakram Hey. By
the way, so you know,

415
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.720
I don't want to jump ahead,
but this is a Frankenstein of a whole

416
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.279
bunch of different movies patched together.
And at that part where Brent Spiner is,

417
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.079
you know, taking charge, it
turns into the thing that movie.

418
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.880
Yeah, that is turns into the
thing. Yeah, and that's one that's

419
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:55.079
probably the most I'd say that's the
scariest moment of this whole movie. Yeah

420
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.400
right, yeah, when he when
he has the when he's just up against

421
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:02.160
the glass. Yeah. And then
you get a closer shot and you see

422
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:07.400
the tentacles like doing that alien thing
where it's like, hey, let's try

423
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.799
and cut it off a Caine's face
and then it tightens. Yep. That

424
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.200
that creeps me out, you know, thirty years later that that scene creeps

425
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:22.119
me out. But love Spiner.
I'm only gonna mention James Redhorn as Secretary

426
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:29.000
of Defense Albert Nimzicky, because we
just talked about him when Andrew and I

427
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.160
did Eight Seconds, and he plays
he plays Clyde Frost, so it's like,

428
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.200
you know, what are the chances
that we're talking about James Redhorn multiple

429
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.240
times? I was listening to that
podcast on the way here today. Oh

430
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.759
yeah, well, thank you.
Apparently I need to see this movie because

431
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.119
it's about Oklahoma and it's about bull
riding. So I was kind of surprised

432
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.920
not to take us away from ID
four, but I was like, this

433
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.400
is Oklahoma, takes place in Oklahoma. Lane Frost is an Oklahoma hero,

434
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.079
Jason is gonna be j are gonna
be all over this episode because they grew

435
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.839
you know, they are in Oklahoma. So to hear you say that,

436
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.599
I was like, what, I
had no idea that was involved olhoom in

437
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.039
any way. So I need to
check this out. I think I definitely

438
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.000
think you'd enjoy that film. So
yeah, check out check out our episode

439
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:21.200
on eight Seconds. Great John g
albaltson film. You know the guy that

440
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.960
gave us Rocky gave us credit.
Kid, he gives us eight seconds,

441
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.319
which has I feel it's safe to
say it has the same kind of heart

442
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.839
as those two. So if you
like those two, you'll definitely like eight

443
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.440
seconds. Let's take a quick break
and then we'll keep talking about this cast.

444
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.400
You thought we wiped them out,
You thought the world was safe.

445
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:46.519
You thought wrong. Independence Day is
here for PlayStation Sega, Saturn and PC

446
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:53.880
CD ROM Don't Choke, Don't World's
counting on you. Back to ID four

447
00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:01.000
YEP cameos and before they were famous. Now let's start with before they are

448
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:06.160
famous, and this is you know, I'm stretching it here, but Vivica

449
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.239
A. Fox plays Jasmine. She's
Will Smith's girlfriend. I say, I

450
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.159
say before they're famous because she did
have her film debut in Oliver Stone's Born

451
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.760
on the fourth of July, which
I love the irony there her her film

452
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.320
debut is born on the fourth of
July. The movie that makes her a

453
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:28.599
star is Independence Day, so love
it. You know, Vivica's agents should

454
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.000
definitely be looking at any Fourth of
July related properties for her to get into

455
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.480
because their hits. You know,
she did lots of TV work in the

456
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.079
early nineties, including The Fresh Prince
of bel Air, but I feel like

457
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.880
this is the movie that puts her
on the map. Is that fair?

458
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.599
I'd say that's that's true. She
brings me heat to Yeah, she's bringing

459
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:52.760
a lot of heat. What'd you
think of Vivica? I liked her.

460
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:59.760
I I think she's beautiful, of
course. I think they're trying to wedge

461
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:04.440
in a quick pretty woman story into
the middle of this sci fi picture.

462
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.280
I told you she's the stripper with
a heart of gold. Yeah, she

463
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.519
she's a stripper that doesn't strip,
right, I get exactly. It's a

464
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.599
PG movie, you know, we
can't get it. But I was like,

465
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.159
come on, man, it's almost
like they looked around before they you

466
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.280
know, when they wrote the script, they're like, okay, what else

467
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.400
can Okay? Top Gun was popular? Okay, more top Gun? Okay,

468
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.480
Well, Pretty and Pink really did
Gang Busters? Okay, squeeze in

469
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.920
a Pretty and Pink like story.
Oh and then the thing, Oh that's

470
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.800
awesome. You put that right in
the middle of this movie. Yeah,

471
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:39.119
she her her her profession as a
as an exotic answer really doesn't doesn't move

472
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:43.599
the story. You know. I
think she could have been She could have

473
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.039
been a school teacher, she could
have been a doctor, she could have

474
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.920
been anything, right, you know, because the only other. The only

475
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.119
other time we even we even reference
it is when Harry Connock junr. Is

476
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.280
like, hey, they're never gonna
let you fly to spaceship if you if

477
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.719
you're married to a stripper, like
really like well says, who is right?

478
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.920
This is the nineteen forty five.
You know it's it's nineteen ninety six.

479
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.280
So I don't see why that's an
issue. But they almost could have

480
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:15.960
made her a civilian analyst where she
you know, they didn't have to salute

481
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:21.800
her, but you're not a salute
her. That would have worked Sign you

482
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:27.039
know whatever callsign Fox. Yeah,
there you go, there you go.

483
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.679
I do like the fact that she's
not just the damsel in distress. She

484
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.480
kind of she's she's kind of like
an action hero in her own right.

485
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:42.000
She's she's jumping through fire, saving
boom or the dog. She's rounding up

486
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.280
all these injured people. I don't
know that many exotic dancers that have a

487
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:51.679
cdl to drive large, large trucks
like that. But she jumps right into

488
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:57.599
the rig and hey we're headed al
toro jump off. So I dig it.

489
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.280
I like what she's doing in this
movie. Yep, someone and I'll

490
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:06.719
say, just a cameo just because
he's he was famous for his theater work,

491
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:12.519
his writing, obviously for Missus doubt
Fire. But Harvey Feirestein playing Marty

492
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:19.360
Jeff Goldbloom's let's go ahead and say
annoying assistant. A little bit of that

493
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.239
guy goes a long way, especially
in this movie. And I just I

494
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.800
don't know. I like I like
the guy, but at the same time,

495
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.679
I think we could have cut some
of his scenes, like the whole

496
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.639
you know, he's he's on the
He's like he's stuck in traffic, he's

497
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.400
trying to get to his his his
therapist. You know, for three hundred

498
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.000
an hour, you can put me
through his house in the Hampton's It's like

499
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.719
se down guy. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know about that

500
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:50.159
guy. I like his mother mother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

501
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.719
don't know. But look, we
I know we're missing quite a few people,

502
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.800
but we gotta we gotta keep moving. Okay. I want to know

503
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.119
about the Colvin cast. So you're
you're talking about you're talking about recasting.

504
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.719
I've done recasting in everywhere. I
already gave you. I already gave you

505
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.079
Dirty Girl, And there's one person
that needed to be recast, but I

506
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.840
want to see what you got for
me. Okay, So I took this

507
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.199
as a challenge. I recast everybody, even though I think Will Smith is

508
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.320
great, I think Jeff Golden is
great. I think those are cornerstones to

509
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.320
the cast that you shouldn't change,
but I'm changing them anyway. Okay,

510
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.880
No, are you hold on?
Are you playing by the rules and you're

511
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.559
recasting with nineteen ninety six people?
Yes, Oh this is gonna be good.

512
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.480
Okay, late Honix. So here's
what I did. I looked up

513
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.400
each one of these actors birth year
and I tried to replace them with somebody

514
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.599
that is right on their birth year
or at least really close. Okay,

515
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:49.199
Okay, So here's what I did. President Whitmore is my number one overall

516
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.199
draft pick that needed to be replaced. Okay, okay, because I still

517
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.760
see, you know, the guy
from Spaceball's right, president Loan Star,

518
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:06.920
Yeah, own loan Stock, loan
stof. I just didn't see him as

519
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.199
the gravitas that we needed for the
US president in a time of crisis,

520
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:16.199
right, Okay? And actually I
cast I went a little blasphemous, blasphemous

521
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.239
here. I recast him with a
British actor in nineteen ninety six. I

522
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.880
need somebody heroic, I need a
stud I need somebody who can lead the

523
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.639
country. I went with Pierce Brosnan, PRIs Brosiden. I was about to

524
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.800
say, you're going brosidentt right,
yep, Pierce President. Okay, all

525
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.519
right, all right, how do
you feel about that? How how much?

526
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:43.079
Starting off? I I absolutely now
Brosna doing an American accident? I

527
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.159
hope, yes, definitely, you
gotta have it. I'm sorry, we

528
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.800
have to have it. Yeah on
Independence Day, an independence day? Yeah,

529
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.760
yeah, a little blasphemoist that you
would choose a brit to be the

530
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.159
hero of Independence Day. But hey, you know, I'm I'm with you.

531
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.239
Still, I'm with you, Okay, all right, so I continuing

532
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:07.039
that line of blasphemy, I'm going
to recast Mary McDonald as the first Lady.

533
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.639
Yeah, and I'm I'm casting Jenny
Agater same year they both born,

534
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.679
in nineteen fifty two. You and
I have both expressed a mutual admiration of

535
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:23.079
miss agues And she's got that heavy
British accent. She's super cute. But

536
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:30.679
I think she could play you know, the demure first lady. She could

537
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.840
and you know what, there's nothing
that says the president can't marry a non

538
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.480
American. So all right, you
know, in the spit, as much

539
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.320
as I love Mary McDonald playing with
the Covin cast, I'll say, yeah,

540
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.639
that's a good that's a good one
right there. Okay, all right,

541
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.519
and I see I see her and
Peers as a couple. That makes

542
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.760
sense, right, I mean they're
two good looking people. You put two

543
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.280
good looking people together, that's how
it goes, all right, Captain Stephen

544
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:00.920
Hiller, this was the toughest one. Okay, Okay, I went for

545
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:06.480
actors born name. Okay, what's
that? I said? I'm only thinking

546
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:07.960
of one name. But you know, now, now you got me curious.

547
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.239
So I you know, we're dumping
Will Smith. I'm taking a chance

548
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.400
on a young Aaron Eckhart. Okay, I didn't see that coming. Aaron

549
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.159
Eckhart. Yes, this is kind
of his pre pre star. This is

550
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.280
before his two face, of course. Yeah, but he's just he looks

551
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.079
like a fighter pilot to me.
So I changed I changed race right there.

552
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.119
Yeah, but I I I have
a correction here in just a second.

553
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:39.639
You're not you're not thinking like did
ninety six Denzel hang tight hang okay,

554
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.719
all right, all right, right, I'll with you. Okay,

555
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.960
MoveOn, I'm on the fence with
but all right, but uh yeah,

556
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.760
keep going. This is good,
okay, David Levinson. This is Jeff

557
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.719
Goldbluin's character. This is the lovable
scientist, right yep. Okay, I'm

558
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:00.719
switching race and I'm switching tone.
Okay, I'm not going with the quirky

559
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:09.320
goofball. I'm going with the smart, you know, charismatic capable Denzel oh

560
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:16.960
in the scientist's position that that works. After watching him in Crimson Tide,

561
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:21.920
I could see him saying, I've
got it. We're gonna give him,

562
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.880
We're gonna give it a virus,
right, you know, yeah, I

563
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:29.840
could I could see that, all
right, Dinzel the hero right as David

564
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:34.679
Levinson. David Levinson, Okay,
okay, now then this is where I

565
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.320
really took a chance. I took
a flying leap on this one. I

566
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.199
want to see what you think about
this one, Julius Levinson. Yeah,

567
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.559
I'm changing tone again on this one. This is Denzel's dad, right,

568
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.639
this is yeah, this is Denza
who you got playing Denzel's dad? Who

569
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.719
can be studley enough to be Denzel
Washington's dad. And there's only one name

570
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.360
I could come up with, is
it Carl Weathers. It's not Carl Weathers,

571
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:02.360
although that's good answer. Okay,
It's Jim Brown. Oh yeah,

572
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.239
okay, Jim Brown. Jim Brown
was born nineteen thirty six. Jud Hirsch

573
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:13.519
was born nineteen thirty five. Yeah, and Jim Brown can kick some aliens

574
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.039
asses, because we've seen that happen
in Mars attacks. So okay, cool

575
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.599
with okay, all right, So
I'm trying to raise the cool factor here.

576
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.960
I'm trying to get rid of the
cornball goofiness you are, okay,

577
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:29.559
okay, And since we're swinging for
the fences anyway, I'm replacing Robert Loja

578
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:36.400
as General William Gray with Clint Eastwood
Works in ninety six. Yeah, this

579
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:42.039
is this. This would be ten
years after Heartbreak. Ridge absolutely built the

580
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.760
same age, right, okay,
yep, all right, all right,

581
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:50.199
Russell Case. This is Randy Quaid's
goofball character. Yep. The pilot,

582
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.679
the drunk pilot, the drunk pilot. You need somebody goofball, but you

583
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:58.039
need somebody that can that you can
side with emotionally. You have that heroic

584
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.239
moment. Somebody can do provide a
little bit of drama, which I think

585
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.559
Randy Quaid could. Okay, I'm
going with Bill Murray. Oh that's that's

586
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.639
inspired. That is absolutely that might
be your best recast yet on the on

587
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.519
this on this one, Bill Murphy, Bill Murray as the UH as the

588
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:21.039
crazy goofball drunk pilot. Okay,
now we got to talk about Jasmine.

589
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.360
Jasmine I got one. Okay,
no brainer, right, no brainer in

590
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.920
ninety six, in ninety six,
I think I know who we're talking about.

591
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.239
But uh, she's got a match
up with areon that cart? Who

592
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.480
do you? Who do you got
with Aaron that cart? The stripper with

593
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.960
a heart of gold. I'm throwing
Pam Anderson Lee in there in ninety six.

594
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:45.199
Hold on, you're putting You're gonna
put Pam a little Anderson in a

595
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:51.280
blockbuster film? Yes, yes,
in ninety six. Of course, I

596
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.760
think, I think, I think
the studio execs are all over you.

597
00:44:53.800 --> 00:45:00.000
They're not letting that happen. She's
got playboys, she's got Baywatch, she's

598
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:08.199
thet she she was famous for another
video exactly, which is why the studio

599
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:14.480
execs are all over you, saying
absolutely not, mister Colvin, I for

600
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.000
a second. I thought you were
gonna We're gonna get like an Aaron Brockovic

601
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.159
re teaming. You're gonna say,
uh, Julia Roberts, since she she

602
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.000
is the stripper with a heart of
girl or the hooker with a heart of

603
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.559
gold from Pretty Women. But Pamela
Anderson, that's I don't I don't know

604
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.440
what. I don't know what Russell
Case is drinking in this movie. But

605
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.559
I think you had a couple of
SIPs. Hey, that was the same

606
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:38.840
year that she came out in Barbed
Wire, which I will not uh confirm

607
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:45.679
her deny that that that I enjoy
Barboy. But still, man, I

608
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.199
don't know about that one. Okay, all right, I just don't know.

609
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.480
Okay, there is one. I
know we we haven't talked about him.

610
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.800
But I'm just curious, if you
know, if I could have you,

611
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.360
you know, shoot from the hip
on this one. Okay. So

612
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.719
Russell has the the son that's looking
at the other two kids, huh.

613
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:05.400
I don't remember his name. I
know he was in Donnie Darko. I

614
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.920
know he was in I think he
was in Go maybe Okay, in the

615
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.199
Doom Generation. But you know who
I'm talking about, the older the older

616
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:20.639
the oldest son, Miguel, who's
played by great value Keanu Reeves. Right,

617
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.639
this this guy is not a good
actor. Yeah. I had struggled

618
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.079
because I couldn't when I first watched
it, I couldn't tell whether he was

619
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.360
a brother or boyfriend. Oh well, yeah, so he's the So there's

620
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.840
three kids, right, and so
Russell married married their mom. Yeah,

621
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.800
is uh that's the way, you
know what I could say. I could

622
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.559
tell you this because we didn't even
talk about this. But there's the theatrical

623
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.920
version, and then there's the much
better director's cut, the extended cut.

624
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.639
Did you watch? Which one did
you watch? I'm assuming you watched theatrical

625
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.280
maybe the Apple TV whichever one that
is? Okay, so you watch theatrical

626
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.320
cut. Okay, there are some
great scenes put back into the movie that

627
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.800
make it a little less uh goofy, little less campy, and there's a

628
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.840
there's one or two good scenes with
Russell and the kids. Okay, so

629
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.400
yeah, definitely worth checking out if
you're a fan. Okay, yeah,

630
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:23.960
but yeah, you know, not
not to end on a on a sour

631
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:28.559
net with the cast. But yeah, that that that kid's awful. Yeah

632
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:36.199
and it probably no, not probably
definitely has the world's worst spit take I've

633
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:42.679
ever seen in any television show or
movie when Russell gets arrested and he like

634
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.199
looks at the screen and then like
almost in slow motion, like spits whatever

635
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.400
he's got. Yeah, it's like
that. What do you are you spitting

636
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.840
in disgust? Or is that like
the world's slowest spit take? Because we

637
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.320
have a take two? You know, yeah, can we get can we

638
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:04.519
ideot as man? It takes as
it takes? Guys awful? But tell

639
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:10.039
you what's not awful These words from
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640
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645
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Welcome back. Jason Colvin of the Surely

646
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.880
You Can't Be Serious Podcasts is with
us. We're talking about Independence Day,

647
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:58.880
the biggest movie of nineteen ninety six, and it's time for Jason to keep

648
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.599
it real. Three questions. Jason, you are an old hand at this

649
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:08.960
multiple appearances on our nineteen eighty six
series, several appearances on our nineteen seventy

650
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:15.280
six series, We've always asked some
fun questions. Let's start with this one.

651
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:21.400
One of our favorite actors, Billy
Zobka, dominating Dojo's high school cafeterias

652
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.039
and college swimming pools and some of
the best movies in the nineteen eighties.

653
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:30.079
Then he is notably absent from Hollywood
for most of the nineties. Question is

654
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:36.679
what about zob Let's replace one actor
from this film with William Zobka. Who

655
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.920
do you got? Okay, this
is an easy call for me. Now

656
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.960
I'm going a little against his typical
character, you know what he normally portrays.

657
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:53.079
I am replacing Randy Quaid with William
Zobka Zoka as the alcoholic father,

658
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:59.239
as the crazy dad. Yep.
And that may cause me to eliminate some

659
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.400
of the earth, age down some
of the children. Yeah, I can

660
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.679
age down the children and still get
crazy alcoholic Zopka. These kids could be

661
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.400
could but at six years old,
it wouldn't matter. They're not doing anything

662
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.039
that you know, needed to be
adults. So wow, I didn't have

663
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.679
that. I didn't. I didn't
see that one coming. There you go,

664
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.159
I'm gonna I'm gonna go you.
I'm gonna I'm gonna head this way

665
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:25.000
with you because I want to see
Zopka in the air. Also, okay,

666
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.800
but Will Smith needs a better wingman
than Harry Connick junr harroh. I

667
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.559
got Zopka as Captain Jimmy Wilder.
And I know we didn't really talk about

668
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.760
Harry Connick Junior when we're talking about
cast. But here's a thing. Are

669
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.559
you telling me that? And this
isn't this isn't I guess it's I guess

670
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:45.639
this really isn't against Harry Connick Junior, but maybe to the writing of the

671
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.800
film. But are you gonna tell
me that we've just been invaded by aliens?

672
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:55.199
They have wiped out like millions of
people across the globe, and you're

673
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:01.360
gonna be all Shenanigans during the war
room, right, And and we don't

674
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.760
know if your best friend's girl is
even alive. So you're you're sitting there

675
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.039
like, you know, holdbe you
know, and you know, hey,

676
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.440
are you ready to do this?
He's you know, he's like, you

677
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.800
know, he's he's just he's like
David Lee Roth, you know, like

678
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.960
like sing talking, yeah, do
a lot of a lot of his role.

679
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.480
Interestingly enough, you know who who
was originally cast in that role?

680
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.000
I don't know who is it?
Matthew Perry and this is ninety six.

681
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.639
Yeah, I think he had to
step out because of commitments to friends maybe

682
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:37.719
I mean, or maybe he was, you know, dealing with something we

683
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.840
you know. But at the same
time, Matthew Perry would have been a

684
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.800
far better choice because he could have
played that goofy sidekick, but also too

685
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:52.519
much taupopping. And they need a
little more iceman there. Yeah, we

686
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.239
need we like the Black Knights needed
to be Iceman. They need to be

687
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.559
hangman. They needed to be like
like like Will Smith. I liked that

688
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.119
he's like, hey, you know, I'm just excited to go whip ET's

689
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.719
ass, right, yep, you
know, and that's his way of being

690
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.480
funny. But also he's got a
stone cold look on his face while Connor

691
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:20.440
Junior sitting there acting like a jackass. But anyways, Jason sequel prequel remake,

692
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.559
if you controlled this ip, what
would be your pitch to the studio

693
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:29.360
to revive it. Okay, So
I know that there's been a sequel.

694
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.760
I have a terrible seeing it,
So I have none I can't comment on

695
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:37.039
it. I don't think you should
see it. Okay, I'm gonna say

696
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:42.639
that Independence Day Resurgence was not a
good film. Okay. Well, I'm

697
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:49.119
still going sequel. Okay, I'm
bringing back these same characters, and we're

698
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.639
doing part two. Aliens invade the
US, and you know, we're back

699
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.239
on our feet again. But you
know, maybe maybe they're trying to take

700
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.320
out Moscow and in London. I
know that. I mean, they were

701
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:07.840
all over these cities. But let
let's do the rematch aliens versus humans,

702
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.639
you know, ten years later.
Yeah, so Resurgence was twenty years later.

703
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.719
And at this point, not to
spoil it for you because you know

704
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:22.559
you probably never watch it, but
President Wentmore's daughter, she grows up.

705
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.480
Now she's a fighter pilot. They
couldn't get Will Smith back. He didn't

706
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:30.000
want to do it, so they
killed his character off, like he dies

707
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:34.880
in like a training accident or something. Okay, but Vivica, a Fox's

708
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.360
little boy that you see in Independence
Day. He grows up and he's also

709
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:40.960
a fighter pilot. Come on,
you know, and they've got like the

710
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:46.800
Earth Defense Squad or the Earth Defense
something, but Jeff Goldbloom is like the

711
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.880
leader of that. They've got warning
detectors on the Moon and you know a

712
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:59.960
couple other places in space. But
it turns out that while we're fighting with

713
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.239
the aliens in ninety four, some
of them, once they start losing,

714
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.280
they are sending a distress call to
the mother mother ship and it takes them,

715
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.360
you know, it takes some twenty
years to get here, but they

716
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:15.320
get here. And then basically they
kind of rehash Independence Day for lack of

717
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:21.599
a better so, you know,
and you know, Emeric wanted to do.

718
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.719
He was he was he was full
set on, like a Cameron run

719
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.639
where he was like, we're gonna
do Independence Day three and four. We're

720
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:34.239
just waiting to see part two.
Show us that the box the box office

721
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.960
is there for it. Yep,
it failed. And then he was for

722
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:39.039
a couple of years he was talking
like in twenty sixteen, he was like,

723
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.599
well, we could still do it, but we're now we're thinking TV

724
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.280
movies, and then that the idea
just faded into obscurity. So which is

725
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.199
a good thing. But I think, you know, like you said,

726
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.559
if we had a proper, proper
sequel, you know, even lead to

727
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.559
your point, if we did one
more and made the trilogy. Hey,

728
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.559
the first one was a lot of
fun. The second one sucked, but

729
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.039
they kind of made they kind of
course corrected, you know, with the

730
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:06.360
third one. That would be cool. But I can't believe I'm gonna say

731
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:10.360
this, but I'm going to remake
and really, okay, I normally have

732
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:15.400
I normally like to think this through
with like a stellar cast and some fun

733
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:21.639
stuff, But honestly, I just
want less camp, more fear. And

734
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.800
all you got to do is look
at James Cameron's Aliens as the playbook totally

735
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.559
right. Why don't you, in
fact, why don't you just bring Cameron

736
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.119
over and hire him to direct it. I would love to do that,

737
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:37.639
but he's committed to Avatar sequels for
the next forty five years, and he's

738
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:45.440
in his sixties. So Jason DVD
extras, you know, nineteen ninety six,

739
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:50.360
the DVD format, So it's introduced
to US markets. You know,

740
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.079
we love it. High definition is
here, it's wowing us. We're tossing

741
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:57.800
out our VHS tapes. But for
the centophiles like us, the exclusive features

742
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.119
were you know, we had the
scenes, election, we had French and

743
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.079
Spanish subtitles. If you're lucky,
you might have got a trailer. So

744
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.480
I'm gonna give you some choices here, what DVD extra and keep? Before

745
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:13.239
I before I go on, I
will say this, the four K Independence

746
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.760
Day on Blu Ray has a wealth
of extras, some really awesome stuff.

747
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:22.119
So if you're if you're a fan
of Independence Day, I strongly orge you

748
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.719
get the four K Blu Ray because
it's loaded. But Jason, if you

749
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.760
had your choice for av you're the
DVD extra you would want for Independence Day.

750
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:35.039
You can have an audio commentary,
you can have deleted scenes, you

751
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:42.079
can have a making of documentary,
or the recently added Amber Lewis Actors Roundtable,

752
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.719
where you can pick a couple actors
to kind of have like a round

753
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.719
table and hash hash it out.
What what what? What do you want

754
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.000
here? Okay, so this is
an easy call. I mean, I

755
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.960
typically love the audio commentary, but
since Amber mentioned the actors Roundtable, that

756
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.679
is like a level up from the
audio commentary because I love hearing the actress

757
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:07.679
talk about it. But since this
is such a sci fi spectacle. I

758
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:15.320
think your best bet is like a
super duper making of behind the scenes featurette.

759
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:20.360
All right, I think that would
work. I'm gonna go fun with

760
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.079
my answer. Now, there is
audio commentaries exist for it already, right,

761
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:30.960
I want Judd Hirsch in character as
Julius Levinson doing an audio commentary.

762
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.840
Nice. I feel like I feel
like he would be focused on all the

763
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:39.639
insignificant things and would trail off and
and not put a lot of attention on

764
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:43.559
the on the big moments. And
I think that'd be hilarious to here.

765
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.360
But I'd go with that. Yeah, I think it'd be fun. Uh

766
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:51.840
in character part of it? It's
curious. I like it. Yeah,

767
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:54.840
Jason, let's talk about the film's
legacy. How has it how has it

768
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:00.960
aged over time? Would you say
this is a classic ac cult classic or

769
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.119
just a product of its time.
I would say it's a cult classic.

770
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.440
I think the movie could be.
I don't think it's revered in the same

771
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:14.239
way that Jurassic Park is revered,
or Star Wars or Terminator two something like

772
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:20.599
that, but I think it is
sort of universally loved as a fun but

773
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:27.039
dumb summer popcorn Blockbuster. When we
ask the question if does this film have

774
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.119
a strong representation of nineties culture?
I don't know what else you need to

775
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.000
say other than Will Smith. Yeah, like, it definitely has it,

776
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:39.079
right, Yep, definitely. And
then you know how this film impacted pop

777
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.559
culture if at all? You know
a couple things I think we need to

778
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.239
address. First off, and I
covered this with Dayton Johnson when we did

779
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:52.400
the Mission Impossible episode. You know, Apple's losses are quickly dissipating here.

780
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.920
You know, after Mission Possible,
everyone's thinking about Apple laptops. But it's

781
00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.639
this movie, with the print ads
and the commercials that feature Jeff Golblel character

782
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:05.039
using that power book fifty three hundred. Everyone wants to own one of these

783
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.639
things at this point, right,
And in fact, Jeff Goldbloom goes on

784
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:14.480
to become a Apple spokesman. He
does, he does. He. In

785
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:19.920
fact, I remember the commercials where
he was advertising iMovie. Yeah. Speaking

786
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.800
of speaking of commercials, I think
this is something that we probably all have

787
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:29.440
forgotten. But Independence Day is the
first film to spend big money on a

788
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:34.719
commercial to air during the Super Bowl. Yeah, Fox, So Fox spends

789
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.440
at the time in nineteen ninety six. This is this is an unprecedented amount

790
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.920
of money. But Fox spends one
point three million dollars to show a trailer

791
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.400
during Super Bowl thirty, and that
kind of sets that begins the trend of

792
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:51.880
movie studios using the Super Bowl airtime
to debut their upcoming films. And I

793
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.599
have to believe that you were,
you were, you were watching Super Bowl

794
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:59.920
thirty. You know, I was, yeah, this is your your team,

795
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:01.760
your team wins, right, and
my team won. And that was

796
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:07.360
the last time the Dallas Cowboys have
done anything. Note Yeah, they beat

797
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.400
the Steelers twenty seven to seventeen.
And you got your first look at Independence

798
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.920
Day on top of it. Good
day for Jason Colvin. That was a

799
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.400
heck of the day. Man.
I'll tell you one thing that this film

800
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:23.599
definitely does as far as impacting pop
culture, without a doubt, the disaster

801
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:29.840
movie genre makes a huge comeback thanks
to Independence Day. You know, we

802
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:34.559
had the Irwin Allen films in like
the seventies and early eighties that we love,

803
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.440
but after Independence Day we get a
slew of them, you know.

804
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:44.800
The day after Tomorrow, Deep Impact
twenty twelve, San Andreas Volcano, the

805
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:51.519
Corps winstard Armageddon anything that could go
wrong in nature, it was going to

806
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:55.400
happen, right yep. So and
you know I said I said it earlier,

807
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:59.960
I'll say it again. I don't
think in today's era of social media

808
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.960
this time you know where this is
July. It's July fifth today, and

809
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.039
I don't think it's possible that you
got on social media and didn't at least

810
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:13.480
once see a clip or a meme
of a president what more speech. Yeah

811
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.320
without it's it's it's universal, like
we love it. I to me,

812
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:22.239
there was a time when you you
know, early DVDs and stuff like that,

813
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:28.480
where they would show clips from this
movie as advertisements for you know,

814
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:31.840
Sony or whatever at the beginning of
your DVDs. So it saw a lot

815
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:37.159
of the the White House explosion.
You you could get away from the White

816
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.360
House Explosion, you know, it's
and rightly so it's a money shot,

817
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.559
it is. And the fact that
that thing is like a scale model that

818
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.119
they blew up, that's like you
said, this is this is right before

819
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:53.079
CGI really takes hold. You know, Lucas is is is there in the

820
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:59.079
shadows like a sith, just waiting
to you know, welcome us into the

821
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:04.039
world of the digital CGI. You
know, no more models explode, no

822
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.920
more miniatures, so Phantom Menace is
a mere three years away. Yep.

823
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:14.880
Well, Jason, I want to
thank you for joining me today here in

824
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:20.599
nineteen ninety six talking about Independence Day. We had such a fun time talking

825
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:22.440
about family. You know, we
we've mentioned Phantom Menace once or twice.

826
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:27.320
We had We had such a blast
talking on is it worth the rewatch?

827
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:31.039
You know, so some great things
you guys have been doing this season.

828
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.360
Love the show, You get me
serious podcast? What is next? What's

829
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.400
coming up? We've got coming up? We've got our top five songs of

830
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:44.559
nineteen seventy nine plus two honorable mentions, and so we'll do that. That's

831
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:45.960
a lot of fun. We kind
of tease it up so you can have

832
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:51.119
a chance to guess what we're talking
about. The top five episodes that you

833
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:52.840
guys do where you I love that. I love that you give us the

834
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:57.840
opportunity to try and try and figure
it out. Before you know, you're

835
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.599
teeing it up for D. He's
trying to guess, teeing up for you.

836
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:01.960
You're trying to guess in the meanwhile, we're listening and we're just like

837
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.199
I know it, or in my
case sometimes I'm scratching my head, going,

838
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.719
what the heck are they talking about? I don't do this, yeah,

839
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.199
but I love what you guys do. So Night nineteen seventy nine,

840
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.920
So forty fifth anniversary, forty fifth
anniversary. I will say this, when

841
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.639
D and I got done, they
were not the same song, but they

842
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:27.480
had a common theme that we were
both like taking it back by So oh,

843
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.880
this is gonna be good. All
right, listeners, check out the

844
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.239
Australia You Can't Be Serious podcast this
Tuesday. Listeners, we also want to

845
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:39.280
thank you for checking out our limited
series nineteen ninety six. We're gonna cover

846
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.599
a lot of movies from this year, but we won't get to all of

847
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.239
them, so some of you have
already you know, we've we've been seeing

848
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.440
like the emails, you know,
some people like hey you got to do

849
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.719
this one, or hey when's this
one coming out? And we do appreciate

850
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:53.239
that, so please, you know, keep them coming because we can.

851
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:55.159
We can change the schedule because we're
not gonna, like I said, we

852
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:59.840
don't have time to get to every
movie nineteen ninety six, but keep those

853
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.719
yessition's coming by emailing us at a
film by podcast at gmail dot com.

854
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.199
You can hit us up on social
media. You'll find us on Facebook,

855
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:17.719
Instagram, and X we got a
bounce. But next time on nineteen ninety

856
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:23.880
six, don't worry, Jason's not
going anywhere because we're heading to Oklahoma to

857
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:45.480
get caught up in Twister. Pisow
Who Pamela Anderson? Pama Anderson spiked the

858
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:51.840
football alight here spy? I mean, yeah, I was with you.

859
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.639
Well, yeah, okay, yeah, I didn't see that one coming.

860
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:02.079
Did not have pam Anderson on my
being go card. Hey, I just

861
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:05.480
thought, who's the most beautiful woman
in the world in nineteen ninety six?

862
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:10.360
You know, we didn't really talk
about it, but one thing, when

863
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:12.920
I was looking at the guy,
I was going over the cast. It's

864
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.199
such a huge cast and we've only
got like three women in the whole movie.

865
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.760
But yeah, how do you kid
that? What? Why? Like?

866
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:25.280
And the thing about this one of
them gets killed off, like not

867
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:30.559
even halfway through, right, kind
of uncurloneously dumped, you know. Yeah,

868
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.199
I kind of feel like if if
you went back, you're telling me,

869
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:36.639
I don't know, like the Secretary
Secretary of Defense could have been a

870
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:42.960
woman you know, or yeah,
maybe could we get a could we get

871
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:46.519
a kookie like who in nineteen eighty
six? Who's a kookie ditsy like like

872
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:50.039
Brent Spiner's doctor Oakham, who has
to be a little weird and eccentric.

873
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:56.679
Do we have someone like that?
How about Carol Caine? Oh? Yes,

874
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.000
Carol Caine coming out of that area
fifty one. That would have been

875
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.400
brilliant. She's smart, love,
goofy DITZI right, smart, goofy ditsie.

876
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:09.840
Yeah, I could see her going
on. Things have been really exciting

877
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:15.039
and exciting. People are dying,
you know, right, Yeah, yeah,

878
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.920
yeah, I feel like, yeah, we needed Carol Kane not you

879
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.960
know, I'll love the Brent Spiner, but he's he's you know, he's

880
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:28.400
got plenty of sci fi to his
credit. Ironically, they're both in Star

881
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.719
Trek, so I guess, yeah, I can't really make that argument,

882
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:36.639
but I like your recasting of Dayton
Johnson from I was I was watching it

883
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:42.000
and he comes out, you know, it's when Dayton lets the ponytail out

884
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.400
and he's got the long hair.
Yeah, I was like, Dayton Johnson,

885
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:51.920
that's awesome. He's he's been keeping
us safe there. Yeah,