April 30, 2026
Adam McKay - Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby

NOS, Knights, and Nascar Month concludes on at the racetrack! We've talked fast cars and fast horses and now Jeff is closing out the month with Matt and DIrk of The Accidental Legends Podcast to discuss one of Will Ferrell's biggest hits; the Adam...
NOS, Knights, and Nascar Month concludes on at the racetrack!
We've talked fast cars and fast horses and now Jeff is closing out the month with Matt and DIrk of The Accidental Legends Podcast to discuss one of Will Ferrell's biggest hits; the Adam McKay directed Nascar comedy Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby!
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We've talked fast cars and fast horses and now Jeff is closing out the month with Matt and DIrk of The Accidental Legends Podcast to discuss one of Will Ferrell's biggest hits; the Adam McKay directed Nascar comedy Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby!
Check out our NEW YouTube Channel and subscribe now! Our new series Previously On... is exclusively available over on YouTube to cover your favorite TV shows, and ours!
Would you like to hear the show early and ad-free? Head over to our Patreon and get started with a FREE 7-day trial. We've got plenty of exclusive content and episodes that you'll only find there! You can also sign up as a free member!
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I'd like to begin today's episode with a poignant quote
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from former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt in nineteen thirty six,
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America is all about speed, hot, nasty, badass speed. Let's
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talk about a film by Adam McKay, his two thousand
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and six NASCAR comedy celebrating its twentieth anniversary Believe it
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or not, this year Talladegait's The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
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Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson and this is a film
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by podcast.
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I have got a treat for you today.
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My two guests go together like Chinese food and chocolate pudding.
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I mean they they are cocaine and waffles. And they
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happen to be the hosts of one of my new
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favorite podcasts, Accidental Legends. Matt Brent Derk Smith.
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Welcome to the show. Guys.
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Hey, Jeff Hels are going Wow, what an intro.
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Right, Thanks Jeff Man. We're we're so glad to be here.
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Well, listen, we've been talking.
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I know we we kind of met back last year
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in the fall or at the at the Shirley Fest
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two and you guys were just now you were starting
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to talk about the podcast and like Hey, we're gonna
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make this happen. I was, I just I couldn't wait.
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I was looking forward to it. I'll just I'll just
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be honest. A few of my favorite episodes bon Jovi's
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Living on a Prayer, your two parter that you did
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for Flash Gordon. But give us, guys, give us an
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idea of what we're in store for when we when
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we tune into the Accidental Legends podcast.
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Matt, you want to you want to.
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Do that, I'll take it.
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Well.
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You mentioned Living on a Prayer, that that was the
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song that kind of birthed the whole idea of Accidental Legends.
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You know, Jon bon Jovie didn't want Living on a
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Prayer as a song. Oh and by the way, it's
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his biggest song of all time, so that concept of
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the artist hated it, didn't like it, didn't think it
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would go versus what actually happened. It's actually his biggest
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song ever. And that was what captured me about the
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whole idea of the Accidental Legends.
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And the whole the whole idea behind your show is
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these are big songs, big movies, big whatever it is,
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it's big, but it shouldn't.
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Have been, right, it. It probably should not have worked,
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but it did. And I absolutely love what you guys do.
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I've always been fascinated with the biographies in the entertainment
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industry of you know, all the cards were stacked against
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them and they couldn't get the budget for it, and
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they had the dream and nobody believed in it. But
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for all of us, like in our generation, Generation X
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or whatever, it just simply existed and was like a
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part of our lives, like Star Wars, like Raiders of
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the Lost Start we didn't know any better. But when
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you dig in, you realize that, you know, every idea
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has a beginning, And it's just fascinating to me that
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if you don't go for those dreams, if you don't
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push a little farther because you believe in yourself, these
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things could have just as easily gone away and we'd
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have never heard of them.
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Well, I'm glad you guys aren't going anywhere. I know
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you just kind of wrapped up on season one. Not
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too long ago, you did this cool like an April
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Fool's thing.
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I was listening to it.
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Not too long ago, you guys covered spies like us,
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which I gotta say, I own it. I was like,
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and it's one of those like this is a situation
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where you guys kind of turned the tables. It's like,
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this should have definitely worked, this should have been everything,
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and yet it kind of wasn't.
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It was.
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It was a misfire, right. I love what you guys
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did on that one. I'm kind of like, it depends
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on the day. It depends on the mood you catch
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me in. I'm either I'm either a big fan of
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spies like us, or I'm like that movie.
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That movie sucked.
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But when you see the DVD for five dollars and
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you're like, I know, I laughed at that when I
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was eleven, so I'm gonna buy it.
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It goes back and forth. But uh, one other thing
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I'll give you guys heads up.
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I know you guys were talking a little bit about
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SCTV during that episode, and you guys were like, ah, man,
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I'd like to like to find that, like to catch that.
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Sources indicate it should be available this year on Prime
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sometime very soon, So cool, keep your eyes peeled out.
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Adam McKay.
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He is the director of Talladega Nights, The Ballad of
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Ricky Bobby. Three Things that You guys and our listeners
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may not know about Adam McKay, and I'm going to
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drop you a quote. He got his start as a
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stand up comic before writing and directing for Saturday Night
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Live back in nineteen seventy five, which honestly surprised me.
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I just assumed he's a buddy of Will Ferrell, so
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they're probably the same age.
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But this guy is auditioning.
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For Saturday Live back when it was not ready for
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prime time players. He didn't make the cut, but he
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was strong enough to get a writing gig, so that's
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where he ended up. You know, in television, he was
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a founding member of comedy troupe Upright Citizens Brigade, as
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well as an alumnus of a Second City improv company
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in Chicago, Illinois.
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Not to be confused with SCTV those guys, but.
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Surprisingly because everyone you know, you think Adam McKay and
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you think I'm going to laugh. But he has directed
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three films that have been nominated for Best Picture Oscar.
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I'm talking about twenty fifteen's The Big Short, twenty eighteen's Vice,
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and most recently, twenty twenty one's Don't Look Up.
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So if you've seen them. You know the guy, The
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guy knows what he's doing.
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You accept, Yeah, except for one thing. On making sequels,
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Adam McKay had this to say, I'm quoting him here.
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Sequels are desperate. We're cooler than that.
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We kind of thought, wait a minute, if we do
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a sequel, we'll have enough cred from the first movie
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that we could do.
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Crazy ass shit.
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We won't have to establish new characters and story and
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jump right into what we want to do.
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And the second part was can we make a good sequel?
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There are a lot of flat comedy sequels. Can we
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make one that?
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Does it suck? If you've seen the sequel to Anchorman?
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I think you have that answer, and I'm just calling
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it like I see it.
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So you guys, look, you guys.
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Are you guys do a great job digging deep on
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your on your episode. Anything that we that maybe maybe
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you could offer on Madam McKay a couple Maybe you
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guys have a couple of things we don't know which
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I go ahead.
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Sorry, no, I was, I was saying what you got, Derek.
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Well, I do have a little bit of an accidental
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legend spin on McKay. So you had talked about The
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Big Short, and before he had done comedies, so he
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had intentionally pivoted from the absurd comedy and wanted to
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move more into the serious, you know, the information heavy storytelling,
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starting with The Big Short and then his movies after that.
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Many movie studios at the time thought that this was
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going to fail. How can you go from making super
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comedies to more serious based films. That's kind of a
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hard thing to pivot. So I just thought, well that right,
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there is a is an accidental legend slant that is absolutely.
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I'll be honest.
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I get I get recommended to see The Big Short,
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and I'm like, The Big Short? Who autam Adam McKay
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And I was like, I don't know. You know, Anchorman
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Ron Berget, you know, step Brothers is like, oh okay, yeah,
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that dude's awesome, Like his movies are hilarious, and they're like, yeah,
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check out The Big Short.
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I was like yeah. They're like, you won't laugh at all.
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I was like yeah, and I just thought they're being sarcastic,
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like like I'm gonna laugh NonStop.
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They're right.
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It's it's like, you know, it's a pretty serious film
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and it's pretty damn good.
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So right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So you said he was.
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A writer on Saturday Night Live. He was the head
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rider as Saturday Night Live at the age of twenty eight,
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so the last two years he was on he was
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on the show. He wanted a specific nonsensical credit on
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the closing crawls as the as everything was closing out.
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He didn't want to be listed as writer because who
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really wants to be listed as rider? How boring is that?
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He wanted to be the coordinator of falconry, the coordinate
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the coordinator of falconry and there were no falcons or
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hawks harmed in the making.
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Will that that says a lot If you've ever listened
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to one of his audio commentaries, I'm a big audio
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commentary guy, and I'll tell you I don't mind when
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they're fun and just two buddies hanging out like a
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like a John Carpenter Kurt Russell situation. And I love
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when it's gonna be a deep dive. I'm gonna tell
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you everything about this movie and every scene.
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I love that too.
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Adam McKay, he's he's not deep diving, and he's he's
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he's having conversations, but he is just just sarcastic and
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just playing a character and just I mean it, it's
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something to listen to. I don't know if you'd love it,
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but you know he makes it.
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Uh, he's entertaining. I'll give him that.
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I got a couple more things for him. Lay it honest, man,
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if you want him, if you want them.
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You're the guest.
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Please services You guys talked about the whole idea of
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him doing serious films that really became kind of the
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bridge too far.
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He was he had a production company with Will Ferrell
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and it was called Oh, don't ask me, Gary Sanchez Production. Yes,
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Gary Sanchez was this fictional Paraguay and entrepreneur that Will
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supposedly had in his BlackBerry back in the day. But
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the way that Will describes it is they got on
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different bandwidths and kind of the last straw was when
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McKay cast Adam c Riley is Jerry Buss in Winning Time,
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And so that was just kind of the straw that
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broke the camel's back in terms of their productions and
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ship It lasted like fifteen years and in twenty nineteen
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they broke up.
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great work, but you know, maybe we get the band
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back together someday, but who knows until then. So we
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kind of we're doing something a little different this season.
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We always talk about our favorite directors, big directors, but
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we talk about we focus on their underrated hits, and
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we usually do a pretty good synopsis on what these
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underrated movies are. This year, we kind of did what
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you guys did with your April Fool's Day, Like we
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turned the tables on everybody and we said, hey, we're
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gonna talk about big movies, blockbuster movies, which is why
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we're talking about Talladega Knights, the Ballad of Ricky Bobby,
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and we're focusing on the twentieth and twenty fifth anniversaries,
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so it's two thousand and one movies, it's two thousand.
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And six movies.
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But we just said, let's not bore everyone with a big,
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long synopsis because everyone's seen these movies. So the challenge
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this year this season, tell me what Talladega Knights is
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is using exactly five words.
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So, h Dirk, I'm gonna I'm.
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Gonna put you, uh, put you on the up for
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grabs first and tell us, Dirk, what is Talladega nights
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in five exact.
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Words, overconfident driver learns humility kind of.
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I like that. I like that, all right, Matt, what
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do you got?
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Mine is a bit more poignant, to the point speed
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redemption and pissing. Excellent.
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Oh that's good, that's good. Drop it, drop it.
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A little bit of the dialogue from the film, I went,
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I'm very on the nose of mine.
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I got I got one for you guys. How about
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Days of Thunder but hilarious exactly.
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Yes, indeed, Days of Thunder is coming up later too.
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Yeah, are you are you guys? Go in a cover
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Days of Thunder?
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No, I've got some I've got some Days of Thunder
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crossover with this.
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Oh okay, perfect, okay, all right, perfect, all right.
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