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Hello everybody, and welcome back to
a Film by podcast. We have a

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special treat for you today. We
have been on the road and we're gonna

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be talking with the con Men.
Hello everybody, and welcome back to a

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Film by podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson
with me today the illustrious gentleman David and

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Scott. You have been listening to
them for quite a while now. They

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got their start on our limited series
nineteen eighty six, winning the hearts and

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minds of all of us. They
have been doing a fantastic job this year

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with a Film at forty five.
They have been discussing some of the most

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incredible movies from nineteen seventy eight.
Scott, real real quick, you know,

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because you have the best way of
explaining this. What is a film

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at forty five? Yeah? So
it's a limited series that we started soon

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after nineteen eighty six, and in
that series we're dusting off the end of

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a decade that changed cinema forever with
a fresh look at modern classics and hidden

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gems that we can't stop watching even
forty five years after their debut. I

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would say that sums it up,
and we are not alone listeners. This

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show you know, we do some
awesome stuff on this show, and you

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know, we are able to do
it because of the hard work that's happening

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behind the scenes with certain people.
I am very excited to introduce one of

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those individuals. He is here with
us in the studio today. I'm talking

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about our good friend Wayne Whited,
who I think it's safe to say,

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would be a foremost expert when you're
talking all things Doctor Who Star Trek.

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Definitely the historian and um and a
con expert. Wayne. Welcome. Oh,

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hello, everybody, Thank you for
having me. Yeah, I'm I'm

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a fan of both Doctor whom in
Star Treks in nineteen eighty two, eighty

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two. Okay, that's going,
that's that's that's going back of bays.

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So let's let's talk about this guys. Um. You know, you we

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see it in the in the we
see it online, we see it in

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the newspapers, we see it on
TV San Diego, Comic Con, Dragon

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Con. This. You know,
there's so many cons out there, but

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what is a con exactly? Well, it is a place that you can

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celebrate movies, enemy, cartoons,
comics, you name it. It's a

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place to go to celebrate with fans. It's a place to go meet celebrities,

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which that's what a lot of people
go for, to get photoshoots,

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to get autographs, panels with those
guests you can sit and listen. I

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know we did one last year with
Kevin Smith was which was wonderful to hear

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him talk. And you have a
ton of vendors. You want to find

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something to buy, You're going to
find it there. There's no doubt about

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it. Wayne, how long I
mean, when din'd this all start?

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The whole, the whole, the
whole idea of a convention to meet celebrities,

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or to meet comic creators or can
meet you know, do you have

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any idea how how this thing began? A conventions has been going on as

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long as I remember. I've always
wanted to go to a convention ever since

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I was a little kid, but
never had the means it was. My

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first convention was in nineteen ninety six
with David. We both experienced our first

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convention at the same time, and
it was the Visions nineteen ninety six convention

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in Chicago, No Wing Away.
It's a great convention. We had a

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good experience. I've only known David
for two years, at that point,

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but we had a lot of fun. It was a Doctor Who convention.

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I'm sure baffled David because I don't
even think he'd even seen series of Time.

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No, I didn't, you didn't. But they at that time,

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they were celebrating other shows. Um, they were celebrating Battle on five who

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which it was David that introduced me
to that series and I fell in love

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with it. Friend was that year
at that convention, and I introduced him

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to another show called Rick to Warfare. It was a great place. It's

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a great place to bring your friends. All conventions are like. It's a

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great place to bring your friends and
introduce them to what you like, to

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new experiences, new shows and new
movies. Well, this is this is

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definitely this is. This is a
thing where it I mean, it's something

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for everyone, and you know,
from people like me who I had no

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idea that so many existed, you
know, because you we all know San

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Diego Comic Con that's like the super
Bowl of these things. Yeah, um,

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and I just I'll never get to
go to that. I can never

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afford that. But then you find
out there's all there's so many the others,

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you know, I mean, this
is, and it's big business.

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You know, we're I mean we're
talking about comic con. I know for

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San Diego. I mean this brings
annually, this brings over one hundred and

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sixty five million to the local economy. I mean this is big bucks.

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You know, we're talking for what
three days, four days, you know,

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ninety million dollars usually ninety to one
hundred million dollars. Just that's just

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spending. That's just people going and
spending. So, I mean, it's

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huge. But a fun fact because
I was kind of curious, is San

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Diego the biggest one? Because that's
what I've always we've always thought. It

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turns out that the biggest comic con
ever is actually Japan's Comic Kit. It

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started in nineteen seventy five, and
the annual attendance is over a half a

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million people. Wow. Look,
I mean some of the ones we've already

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been to, they've been crowded,
Like I felt like Lexington a couple months

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ago was kind of crowded. Could
you imagine could you imagine five hundred thousand

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people? You know, that's going
to be it's own zip code. The

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largest convention I ever been was that
had about one hundred thousand, but I

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couldn't imagine five times more. I
mean we could barely get around on that

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one. Yeah. So you know, uh, Wayne, you were talking.

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You know, you'd only know Dave
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him on this con and I think
that that that sounds about right. It

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takes about two years to uh it
takes about two years a Dave before you

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want to take him on a road
trip. That sounds about right. I

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can't argue that. But you guys
the mileage. Yeah, so but you

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guys, so you drive, you
drive to Chicago, Dave. I gotta

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ask you, because you know Wade
mentioned you know this is this is a

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Doctor Who thing. You don't watch
the show? What what were you even

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expecting? I don't know really what
I was expecting. I know I was

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going to hang out with a friend
for a weekend, and I believe it's

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a Thanksgiving weekend, right Wayne,
Yes it was, I was correct.

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Yeah, Yeah, And um,
I knew there was gonna be some guests

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there from Babylon five and I love
that show, so I was excited to

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meet them, But than getting introduced
with those other things that were there,

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Doctor Who in red Dwarf, of
course, was a big win for me.

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Yeah. So I'm sensing like a
some kind of recruitment happening here because

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I know my first con last year
happened to be Motor City Comic Con.

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And I remember, Dave, you
were talking, uh, you know,

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like, hey, let's you want
to go to this this, uh this

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thing in Detroit. I was like, what is it for? And You're

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like, oh, wait, you
know it's there's ways going after some some

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people. He wants to meet some
people from Doctor Who. And I'm like,

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and I look, I'm not knocking
Doctor Who, but I know it's

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not my my cup of tea,
it's not for me. Um. But

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my my immediate thought was, I
mean, I'll be I'll go along for

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the ride. I'll see. I'm
just I'm curious, and I am man,

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I'm so glad I did. Though, well I'm hooked on the cons.

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I'm not hooked on Doctor Who.
But I yet me. It was

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just the idea, you know,
of just wandering around and taking it all

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in and seeing all these vendors.
And I did no prep. I just

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like you said, Dave, you
were you were going to spend time with

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a friend and I was like,
you know what, I'm just gonna go

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spend time with some friends. Well, I didn't realize who was going to

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be there, and before I know
it, I'm having a conversation with Alice

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Cooper. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm talking to Alice Cooper about about

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movies and music. This is this
is the greatest thing on earth, Like

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what you know? I loved it? So, uh, Scott, what

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about you? Do you what was
the first con? First con I probably

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went to was mid Ohio Con back
when that's what it was named before Wizard

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Entertainment kind of took it over UM
And that was in Columbus, and the

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primary reason for going there was as
a a comic con, so it didn't

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really have um, a lot of
celebrity guests. I think there was kind

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of a peppering of it, but
it was more I would say, like

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seventy percent comic focused. So you've
got creators, you've got the big names,

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you've got the up and coming names, you've got vendors that will sell

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things. And I think since then
it's kind of grown and morphed into something

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different. I think a lot of
them are characterized as comic cons to kind

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of take on that kind of idea
or give you some kind of idea of

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what you're going to see, which
is going to be a lot of cosplay,

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It's going to be a lot of
the things that we've already mentioned,

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but it's also going to encompass you
know, voice acting, anime, wrestling,

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basically any kind of pop culture that
you want to that you're into is

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probably represented at one of these events. I think there's a lot of shows

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that still start to kind of drift
toward the comics roots, which are fantastic.

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I was involved with Cartoon Crossroads Columbus
for a long time with Jeff Smith.

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There's still space which is like the
small press kind of expo, But

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then there are some that are still
the sci fi conventions. I think a

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lot of those do a lot of
a lot of great traffic as well.

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Probably my best experience with those shows, I would say one was getting to

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work at a table with Art Spiegelman
of Mouse and actually helped them at their

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at their table. That was a
fantastic experience. Obviously getting to meet Jeff

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Smith for Bone, who is amazing, and David Mack, which if you

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don't know his art, I have
a hard time believing that because I look

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him up and you know who he
is. The first time I met him,

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I was talking to him about his
work on Daredevil with Brian mcabendis,

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and he asked if I had ever
read Kabuki, and I was honest,

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I said, you know, I've
always seen it on the shelf. I've

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never had a chance to pick it
up. It's always been something that interests

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me. It's just never just hasn't
happened yet. And he's like, oh,

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okay. So he walked over and
literally grabbed a stack of books,

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signed them all and handed them to
me and he was like, guest started

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wow, and you meet an Yeah, you meet a lot of people there

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like that that are very genuine and
are very interested in kind of fostering that

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love for this fandom, Scott.
Those are definitely those are some incredible experiences

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that you've you got right there my
question Wayne, you know, because and

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I know you mentioned eighty two getting
a start, so shooting from the hip

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here Wayne, Uh yeah, favorite
experience for the past or even even recently,

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like you know, interaction or experience
it just is yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I do. And uh, probably my favorite memory of all the

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conventions. So this goes back a
little bit. This was in David Wooden

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with me at this time. This
is in nineteen ninety seven. I was

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on a summer vacation and my mom
was with me and we decided to make

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us swing around to Atlanta to Dragon
com which is a huge conventions, one

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of the biggest conventions in the US
other than San Diego Comic Con. One

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of the guests down there were was
John Ree Stavies. And Mom was a

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huge fan of a show called Sliders
we chaired back in the sixth or back

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in the nineties, Jekyl right,
that's correct, Yes, yeah, huge

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fan of it. She wouldn't miss
a single episode and she was really excited

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about meeting Davies. But the day
before we got to the convention, I

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had we stopped at the McDonald's and
Mom had fallen and as we took her

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to the hospital and we thought maybe
she broke some bones something that they X

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rated and everything was fine, but
she was in a wheelchair. She couldn't

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walk around, so I ended up
having to push her around in a wheelchair

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to this convention. But we went
and we got in line for John Ree

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Stavies, and I was waiting for
him to come out. He does.

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He finally comes out in a wheelchair. He's telling the story that just the

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week before he was filming riding a
horse and got through him from the horse,

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ended up breaking his legs and now
he's wheelchair. Now. He took

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one look at my mom and he
said, bring her back here, bring

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her back behind the table. And
I wheeled her back there and he started

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talking to her. Just so he
goes, you go on, you go

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enjoy the convention, just like you're
here for an hour or two. So

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I went, and I went,
and I enjoyed the convention. I came

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back about an hour and a half
and they're just chatting. It was probably

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the best experience of the entire convention
for her. Her eyes were just beaming.

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Um made her day. He signed
so much stuff for us. He

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even gave her a little kiss on
the cheek and she talked about that for

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years. Wow, that's just really
that's a good example of how how good

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the actors are. Meeting them They're
just they're just fantastic, they are.

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And that's that's something like if you
know, because this this is something we

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don't typically do right, guys.
You know, we're just talking about a

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fun experience that we had and we
kind of wanted to, you know,

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pull the curtain back and let people
know, like what you can expect or

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what you should expect. It's those
kinds of interactions. You know, when

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I hear about him, it makes
me a bigger fan of that person,

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you know, or it makes me
a fan of him if I if I

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didn't follow their work, because you
know, Davey's doing that for Wayne's mom.

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You know, she she loves a
guy, you know. I'm sure

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she was hoping to show up and
meet him. Probably didn't think she was

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going to spend the day with him, you know, So that's incredible.

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Dave I know you've you know,
just for me and you talk, and

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I know there have been some huge
moments for you at some of these conventions.

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Do you have one one close to
your heart or one that stands out

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more than others? I think you're
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it is an experience that we had
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Um My nephew is a huge Scooby
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lot of people talking about how amazing
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for those who don't know, he
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of people know him from Scream,
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live action versions of Scooby, but
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many years now in the animation.
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huge line. Jeff, you were
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about a thousand people ahead of us
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room, yeah, and the lady
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were waiting to first get in,
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they will shut down Matthew's line right
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I race there, and as soon
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us sorry, Matthew's lines is shut
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and you know, my heart was
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know, we had talked this up
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know, meeting Matthew, and you
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went back to the vendors and you
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at the time, and Jeff,
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later and took him off to see
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we eventually made it back to that
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still closed, and we were walking
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you know, waved me over.
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and she said, I want you
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with me because Matthew has special rules
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rule is any any anyone who has
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that's like that, they go to
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nephew looked at me, was what's
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as said, you're about ready to
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they they took us to the head
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phenomenal, you know, he had
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waiting for him, and he took
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my nephew. He actually talked to
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in Paris at the time. And
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talk to me for a little bit, and just went on and on and

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on why all these people are waiting. Matthew was in no hurry at all.

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He was so friendly. He signed
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you know, I tell you I
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you I was a huge fan after
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that well, you know, it's
that's again, just like with John rus

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Davies, Matthew Lillard. You go
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get to a chance to tell an
actress or an actor or a comic creator,

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you're you know, someone you're hoping
that you get a chance to tell

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him you know how much their work
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a fan you are. You know, you get hope maybe you have a

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moment to ask a question. And
in my experience, you know, because

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it's only been you know, I'm
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You guys, you guys pulled me
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I like on my fourth or fifth
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I've encountered, they have just been
the most amazing people. You know.

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Um, Dave, you mentioned Kevin
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more genuine kind soul to talk to
and meet. Um, He's a hugger,

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you No, He's a big hugger. You know. If you if

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you haven't had a hug from Kevin
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the guy knows he brings it,
you know. But it was just

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it was that was an amazing moment. You know. Uh d Wallace,

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you know, we we've talked about
her so many times on this on this

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podcast. You know, our our
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Mom that is, you know,
and just seeing that that big grin on

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her face and you know, just
throwing her arms out and come here,

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baby cakes and you know, wrapping
me up, you know, and it's

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like for me, I was like, this is a moment, this is

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ET. This is the mom from
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This, Yeah, this is how
the howling, you know, like

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I'm I'm here with Dee Wallace.
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she was the she was just a
sweetheart, you know absolutely, you know

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these people when you when you get
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Motor City Comic Con this this,
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definitely no different. I just haven't
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person. I don't know if that
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it happens at some of these things, but we have yet to see it.

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I think, yeah, it's very
very rare. I mean, everybody

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has bad days. All the actors, you know, they have bad days.

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and I've really I've never had a
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we've had we've had some disappointing things
where we haven't had time or an actor

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wouldn't be able to sign what we
wanted to sign. But as they're bad

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anyone mean, or or an actor
that just you know that that we didn't

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like, I've never had an experience
like that. You mentioned, You mentioned

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Wayne, you mentioned signing things and
meeting hundreds of your favorite celebrities, we

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got to talk about the Doctor Who
Poster. So the Doctor Who. So,

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just to clue our audience in and
listen, as I said, I'm

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not a fan of Doctor Who.
You don't have to be to appreciate this

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story, because there is something that
travels to these cons with us that has,

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uh it's like a Holy Grail type
item. So Wayne, tell us

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about the Doctor who Poster. All
right, a little history about that.

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For the first like five years of
going to conventions, U I usually would

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get autographs on individual photos from all
the actors, which which is typical.

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I mean usually they all have photos
that you buy and then they can sign

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choose whatever picture you prefer from whatever
movie, your show. But um,

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and every year Thanksgiving there is a
Doctorment Comission in Chicago, so I always

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had every year I had an oppert
to meet some well and two thousand and

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one it was two thousand, sorry, two thousand. I went to the

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convention and the photos I just wasn't
I wasn't happy with the photos of choices.

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They weren't from these stories that I
liked. They weren't for the episodes,

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they weren't the right size. It
just was very unhappy with the photos,

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so I needed to At first I
thought about making my own photos,

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but then I was in the dealer's
room and I was looking at the posters

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and there was a poster. It
was a very simple poster, just a

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picture of the Tartist, which is
a time machine productor who flying in the

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vortex, lots of space around it. And I looked and I said,

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this is perfect. If I just
start getting everybody just to sign this one

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thing, I won't ever have to
worry about buying or getting pictures again.

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So the first time I had anyone
sign it was at the two thousand and

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two Chicago Tartists Convention. I have
everyone off from the shows signed it,

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all the way back from to William
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from nineteen sixty up to Jody Whittaker, the well the last doctor who just

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left the show last year. And
I've been able to get people from behind

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the scenes as well, both the
producers, compostors, visual effects designers.

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I have guest stars. I don't
have to worry about any photos. I

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just have them if they were on
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the show. I have them sign
it, Wayne, how many Okay,

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so you probably have the exact number, but if you don't approximately how many

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signatures are on this thing right now? I keep track of every one of

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them because some of the signatures are
really hard to read, and so I

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have to keep track otherwise I won't
remember them. One hundred and fourteen as

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of MotorCity Comic Con. One hundred
fourteen actors, actresses, creators on this

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long expanding Doctor Who series. This
thing's gonna be worth, Like, I

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think, how do you how do
you put a price on something like that?

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Can't because I would know there are
a few names on there, unfortunately,

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of people who have passed away since
then and over the last twenty years,

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so I wouldn't even begin. It's
to me, it's priceless. I

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mean that's the top of my collection. But see everything. Every time,

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you know, every time I've seen
you roll this this thing out in front

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of someone, the look on their
face just they're they're stunned. I mean

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you're talking like you know, because
they've seen everything. They've signed a bunch

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of stuffy they signed photos, they
signed fun copops, they sign all kinds

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of stuff. And then Wayne walks
in with this, this amazing poster that

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has all these this this history,
this legacy, and that that for me,

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Like, like I said, I'm
not knowing, I might not know

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who Jody Whittaker. I might,
I might not be familiar with her.

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But when I saw her face,
the shock and awe on her face and

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how like mystified she was, and
like how in all of Wayne she was

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like this guy's got this? Are
you kidding me? And you know,

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then she gets to be a part
of it. So I just it.

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It never says how they feel.
Yeah, they're they're part of something now.

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They see it. Yeah, they
see it, and it's great because

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they love signing it. They love
trying to figure out who signed it,

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trying to pick the autographs out.
They're always constantly asking me, oh,

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did this person sign it? To
that person sign it? And usually I

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can point right to the signatures there
it is. Yeah. But one of

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the actresses from the show, Nicol
O'Brien, who's on the show during the

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eighties, when she signed it,
she said it felt like an honor because

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she was putting their name into what
she called the legacy of doctor who because

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of so many different names from all
sixty years of the series, and when

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you routinely get people like when you
you know it all as it takes is

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like one second and then another person
another another person at this that's that's showing

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up one of these events that's there
to meet someone or to see someone.

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They see it and then they they
want to talk about it. And then

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Wayne, Wayne, how many times
have you been you know, briefly,

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can you tell us like what kind
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times people have offered to buy it? Actually, I've only had one person

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actually offered to buy it, and
that was actually not that long ago,

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a few years ago. Um it
to me, like I said, it's

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priceless. He offered me five hundred
bucks. But which is No, I

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wouldn't couldn't even begin to put a
price on it. It's too much of

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my experiences. Yeah that I love
the show so much. I followed the

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show for so many years, and
I can look at it and I just

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I remember every signature. It's just
it's a celebration of my love for the

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show. I can imagine, like, you know, five hundred dollars might

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seem like, you know, a
generous offer to that person. And but

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taking into account, you know,
it's I think you said more than one

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hundred signatures, one hundred fourteen.
Multiply that by the tickets to get into

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those shows, the cost of paying
for the autograph that the average but like

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hour maybe forty five minutes at a
short end, at the short end of

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it, that you'll stand in line
to get those Um, I mean that

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that just gives you a base aside
from just the you know, it's like

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a it's like a walking doctor who
Hollywood Walk of Fame, right, Yeah,

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I look at way to describe it. Yeah, I kind of look

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at it. It's almost like it's
Wayne's passport. You know, he's had

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it, He's had it stamped all
these years over the all these mini conventions.

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But Scott, let's talk a little
bit about MotorCity Comic Con the event,

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Like, you know, when did
this thing start? So it's been

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running for more than thirty four years. This past year year when we went

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was the first time that I had
ever gone. It's the longest distance I've

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ever traveled to get to a show. But it's right in the heart of

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Detroit. As the name suggests.
It boasts more than two hundred and fifty

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comic creators, writers, artists,
actors. It's really one of those big,

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big, kind of pop culture landmarks
for the area. It runs more

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than once a year. They have
a great setup, Like when I compared

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to other shows that I've seen,
They've got a great way of you know,

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making sure that you have more than
enough room to navigate through the vendors

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and the the comic creators and the
celebrity guests, a great way to get

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you moving through. It's probably the
biggest show in the in the area that's

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closest to us in Ohio. Yeah, I would think so. I mean,

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well, with the exception of Galaxy
Con maybe in Columbus. Yeah,

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Galus coun pretty good. Sigttle bit
bigger than that though. Yeah. But

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again, you know, we talk
about how these things, you know,

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how do they how do they start? You know, they go from like

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you know, they're in the the
convention room of a holiday inn to then

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they're taking over a convention center.
I believe it was Michael Goldman, guy

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that owned MotorCity Comics. He starts
this thing and like what nineteen eighty nine,

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I think going through a little bit
of the history, like just you

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know, because you're always like,
now, the whole thing is who's gonna

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be there? Right? And for
guys like us, you know, the

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rock stars were the comic book creators, you know, so to see like

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in the beginning, it's guys like
Eric Larson, you know, and then

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it goes to like bigger names stan
Lee, George Perez. You know,

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it just advances and advances, and
it's like, Wow, I can't believe

409
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:52.480
all these amazing comic creators you know
are are here, you know, even

410
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.519
when it's like someone like for us, like I know recently we saw Larry

411
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.559
Hamma was was it one of these
things? You know? Guy wrote basically

412
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.200
wrote, g I Joe like that
we grew up on. So I love

413
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.039
seeing how how it kind of changes, you know, because I think it's

414
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.960
uh, it's like two thousand and
two thousand and one with Motor City,

415
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.960
they get they get uh, that's
when it kind of they started getting the

416
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.640
Star Trek crowd. M huh,
who was it? James Duhan? Yes,

417
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.440
maybe I was there, you were
there. I was there, see

418
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.640
of course Wayne was there that year. Of course he was. Of course

419
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.400
the first time I was at Motor
City Comic coup was in nineteen ninety nine.

420
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.039
Um, they were very Star Wars
century at that time becausee Phantom Menas

421
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.480
just came out. But yeah,
um I went to the two thousand and

422
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.680
two thousand and one and two thousand
and five, and yeah, I was

423
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.480
there during Jimmy Duan when he was
there, I was he was a great

424
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.519
person to meet. Oh I bet
uh. And it just it kind of

425
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:56.039
blows my mind, as you know, the list of names and the celebrity

426
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.319
it just explodes, you know because
after after you get your Star Trek crowd,

427
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.559
then then the comic book Royalty starts
showing up, Adam West stan Lee,

428
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.519
you know, all these people start
showing up and then it becomes like

429
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.039
a free for all. Um,
I'll tell you right now, I wish

430
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.200
we could have been there in two
thousand and seven because Scott Dave. It

431
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.640
would have given us an opportunity to
meet Lewis Scots Jr. And we have

432
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.559
talked so many times. We've talked
to times about him on the show.

433
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.039
So we know one film that we
talked about, Yes, yes, but

434
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.319
I think it's pretty pretty awesome the
way you know, like I said,

435
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:36.279
you don't have to love comic books. You don't have to love movies.

436
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.720
You know, you can love something
or you can love it all. You

437
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.880
could love love a little piece of
it. There's something there for everyone,

438
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:48.160
right Well, I gotta say,
years ago some of the guests are getting

439
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.960
nowadays, you would never ever imagine
your wildest dreams that these names would be

440
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:59.480
at conventions in in freaking Michigan or
Ohio or Kentucky. Jeff, I never

441
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:06.119
ever imagined we would meet Sam Rami
or I would never imagine that, you

442
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.880
know, with this one, Sean
Gunn, Jason Isaac's I mean, come

443
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.720
on, these are gigantic names you
would never have seen at one of these

444
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.160
conventions years ago, and now it
seemed to be common practice. Well,

445
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:21.480
and I mean you've also got going
back to Galaxy and Columbus. You know,

446
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.759
you probably expect stars from Star Wars, Star Trek, a lot of

447
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.640
the you know, the standard kind
of pop culture intellectual properties. But Richard

448
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.039
Dreyfuss exactly never would have imagined Richard
Dreyfuss being at a con like that.

449
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:41.200
But they're seeing how it has a
chance to to reach more people, and

450
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.680
with more more kind of work that
they've done, it has a chance to

451
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:51.920
kind of expand their reach. We'll
talk later. I'm sure about Darryl McDaniels,

452
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:57.839
with the many books that he's published
beyond being dmc right, yep,

453
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.039
it's the closest that it lets you
get closer to people that you think you'll

454
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.480
never meet. Like I never thought
that I'd be getting a hug from Kevin

455
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.279
Smith, right, um, because
I don't know that I'll ever make it

456
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.759
out to Jersey for the Secret Stash. Hopefully will, but um, you

457
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:22.319
know Dall right right? Oh god? Yeah, meeting Dante and Randall was

458
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.519
amazing. Yeah. Um. And
it's it's experiences that you don't forget,

459
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.359
so it kind of brings those worlds
closer to you. Um. And it's

460
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:36.480
it's definitely expanding. It's definitely getting
into um more kind of guests that you

461
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.039
won't really get to meet anybody else. Well, let's let's talk about MotorCity

462
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:46.119
Comic CON's biggest draw, Great Scott, Oh my god, they found me.

463
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.440
I don't know how, but they
found me. Him work hard about

464
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:59.319
it. Who do you think Christopher
Lloyd? Could you not imagine meeting him

465
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.039
and you at a convention like this? That is crazy? Yeah, he's

466
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.839
one of my favorite experiences at a
con, which was actually kind of a

467
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:16.480
different con. It was the Delirian
Car Show in Columbus and they had they

468
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:23.400
had Christopher Lloyd with the Delirianum.
They also had Bob Gail, Like,

469
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.759
they had so many different people from
from Back to the Future they were there

470
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.720
to meet, and Um, he
took a moment to meet with my oldest

471
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.920
son who was dressed up as Doc
Brown, and he just turns around and

472
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.720
he's like, how you do a
doc and like, you know, does

473
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.839
this great voice. But he's still
doing it, and he takes the time

474
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.839
to spend time with every single person. He used to travel with Oliver and

475
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:54.200
Terry Holler, who were raising money
for Team Fox with the Delirian time Machine.

476
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.039
So he's been he's been wearing the
circuit for for a while and I'm

477
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.519
glad that he's still doing it.
I'll say one thing for MotorCity Comic Con,

478
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.079
and how how much of a well
oiled machine it was. Um,

479
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:16.599
there had to be several thousand people
waiting to meet Christopher Lloyd and then just

480
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.400
take a quick photo with him in
front of the Delirian. It blew my

481
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:29.239
mind how fast that all happened.
But how how organized it was. I

482
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.760
mean this this, this event.
I mean they are lights out when it

483
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.960
comes to, you know, having
things organized. I know, I believe

484
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.239
it's pose is the photo op company
that was that was working with them.

485
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.480
They do fantastic photography. Uh.
And Dave, I know you're you're a

486
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.400
professional photographer, so you know you've
seen their work and you know, am

487
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.360
I am I riot or am I
No? You're right. I couldn't imagine

488
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.079
doing something of that caliber and as
quick as they're doing it. It was

489
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:59.840
crazy. Yeah, But with the
precision that they're doing it and the quality

490
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:06.239
they're doing it, I absolutely Again, you know, you get a moment

491
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.840
like you know, sometimes when it's
someone like, hey, I'm really hoping

492
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.079
to meet this person and maybe you
have that opportunity to it. You're going

493
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.079
to get an extra couple of minutes
to talk with them. Um. And

494
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.440
then in other times it's like you
know, like we said, the big

495
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.360
draw, you know, Christopher Lloyd
and the DeLorean here at MotorCity Comic Con.

496
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:30.199
The poor man just doesn't have enough
minutes in the day to to truly

497
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.679
you know, have a long,
you know interaction with someone, so Um,

498
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:37.960
the time that you do get with
someone like that, even on even

499
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:44.239
on his level, UM, still
well worth the price of emission, well

500
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.440
worth you know. Amazing experience,
absolutely amazing experience. Yeah, well you

501
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.199
speaking of those experiences. UM,
you know, let's talk about some of

502
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.079
the people we met at this convention. Jeff, I think you had some

503
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.719
cool interactions with Michael Bean and Sean
Gunn, didn't you? I actually did.

504
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.880
Um. I feel in retrospect,
I feel bad now because we're talking

505
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.480
to Sean Gunn the day before his
birthday. If we would have you know,

506
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.960
and we do. We do such
good research on this show, Like

507
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.760
if we were just known, like, hey, you know, it's a

508
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:15.800
guy's birthday, we could have we
could have brought him something, could have

509
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.440
done something nice for Sean. But
uh, I will say Sean definitely did

510
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.239
something nice for us. We had
a chance to talk with him about his

511
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.679
MCU fate. What's next for Sean
gun You know, I asked him.

512
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.039
The question I asked was like,
Hey, when are you gonna get behind

513
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.199
the lens? You know, we
love Craglin, we love Guardians, but

514
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.280
have you ever thought about directing your
own feature? And he kind of lit

515
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.400
up and he was like, you
know, it makes it reminds me of

516
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.840
my theater days. You know,
I did a lot of directing a theater

517
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:52.119
and who knows, maybe sometime in
the next ten years I might might do

518
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.039
something or or maybe Marvel's gonna call
me and they want me to direct Guardians

519
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.119
for Well, we'll wait and see
what happens. And you know, you

520
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:04.559
know, again, very very kind
guy, a very funny guy, which

521
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.440
you know obviously if you've seen his
work, and I know you have,

522
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.679
you know he's one of the funnier
aspects of those movies. But uh,

523
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.440
just a great, great guy.
Love love talking to Sean. I hope

524
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.320
we get to talk to him again. In the Wayne, I know you,

525
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.280
uh you had Katherine Tate, Um, didn't you, Jonathan. First

526
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:30.280
I met Katherine Tate and h both
Brent Spiner and Jonathan Frakes, and then

527
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.679
Jason Isaacs, and then I waited
in a long line to meet Christopher Rooyd,

528
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.559
A really long line which reminds me
of the Karen Jallium experience that you

529
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:45.000
had left here. Marin's was the
line. It was Matt Smith, that

530
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.920
was what I can definitely say that
was the longest line I have ever waited

531
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.119
for an autograph, but it was
worth it. It was worth it.

532
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.920
Yeah, well, especially considering how
far some of these celebrities travel at Katherine

533
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.800
Tate is not next door, right, No, so God bless her for

534
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.920
coming out and spending some time um
with the fans and every every single person.

535
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.360
She just lit up. She did, she was She was so incredibly

536
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:13.599
sweet and she loved signing my poster, and I loved Evner signed it.

537
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.920
And she's actually I told her she
was probably one of the first, very

538
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.519
first for me. Normally, when
I meet someone from the from the Doctor's

539
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.039
series, it's usually after they've already
appeared on the show. But she's currently

540
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.199
on the show. She has three
episodes airing in November, so she is

541
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.960
she is a current cast member and
the first of that to sign my poster.

542
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:40.119
Yeah, Dave, speaking of sci
Fi Royalty, Uh, this was

543
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.280
your chance. You got to meet
Brent Spiner finally, right after all these

544
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:49.639
years. Finally I almost have the
whole Bridge crew autograph for the next generation,

545
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.320
and he was one of the three
that I'm that I'm missing. I

546
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.800
don't know why he escaped me for
so many years. I don't get it.

547
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.360
And it was finally nice to meet
him. Really nice guy too.

548
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.800
What you know, what I like
a lot about these people is you know,

549
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.440
they'll take their time talking to you, you know. And you know,

550
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.840
Brent was just all smiles, um, just talking to everybody as they're

551
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.320
coming along. And you know,
I took a selfie with him. Um.

552
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.199
But yeah, I complimented him on
what we saw with Piccar season three,

553
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.119
told him how much my love has
been reignited for Star Trek and Knicks

554
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.199
Generation because of what they did with
Piccar season three. So yeah, great

555
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.920
experience. I love that moment too, because you could see that he was

556
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.880
genuinely happy to know that, you
know, his work on Piccart season three

557
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.519
has has kind of sparked a whole
new audience. And and I'm standing there

558
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.760
and I'm like, you know,
just because I'm a blunt instrument, I'm

559
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.599
like, yeah, I don't watch
I never watched Star Trek Next Generation.

560
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.480
And he's just like, this guy, are you? But you know,

561
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:52.800
but I did ask him. I'm
like, hey, I know you I

562
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:55.440
love your voice work. You know, I know you've you've you've voiced the

563
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.559
Joker, You've voiced the Riddler.
You know, who's who a favorite?

564
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.800
And you know, obviously he's like, well, I mean they're both such

565
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.159
great characters. But okay, it's
the Joker. I love doing the Joker.

566
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.280
I love talking for the Joker.
So that guy was great though,

567
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.360
a lot of a lot of energy, you know. And the fun thing

568
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.519
is like these guys, like we've
seen them on TV for what decades?

569
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.119
Yep, Scott, are they are? They? Are they drinking the elixir,

570
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:28.079
the celebrity elixer, because these guys
look amazing, like they don't age.

571
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.320
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, And
I mean they do take the time

572
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.960
at the table, um to spend
the time and you know, chat with

573
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.920
everybody that that it comes up.
Um. And you know, for as

574
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.599
much as they're they're seeing so many
people over a long weekend, you gotta

575
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.079
think about the marathon kind of schedule
they're going through. But they're still happy

576
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.320
to talk to people. I will
say, kind of you know, setting

577
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.119
expectations when you're going to this kind
of thing. The photo op is a

578
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.599
very quick kind of one to the
other when you're paying for what you want.

579
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.480
Um, I would say any kind
of experience at the table, you're

580
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.159
going to get a lot more time
to talk to somebody than you will with

581
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.679
the photo ops. So when you're
playing that out, just a recommendation now

582
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.920
that the photo ops that you get
are going to be very high quality photos.

583
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.199
And you know that's where we got
a hug from from Kevin Smith and

584
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.599
the whole group of us and me
making a stupid Dante face. Sorry Kevin,

585
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.400
it's still awesome, but um,
just just keep that in mind when

586
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.239
you're doing that. But you know, just know that, like Dave you

587
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.599
said, with with Brent Spiner,
you had a great chance to have a

588
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.599
conversation Jeff, you had a chance
to do a follow up conversation with him.

589
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.880
And Jeff you also had some great
conversations with Michael Bean and Carl Weathers.

590
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.639
Let me tell you, Okay,
so let me just I'll start with

591
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.199
let me start with Carl Weathers.
So you know I am I'm a huge

592
00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.119
fan of the Rocky franchise. I
always loved him, Carl Weathers, I've

593
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.679
loved I've you know, from Rocky
to Action Jackson to Predator. You know,

594
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.639
I'm loving it. I'm loving his
work now in the Mandalorian. This

595
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:15.039
guy early seventies looks like he could
play Apollo. Creed right now today he

596
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.280
is in phenomenal shake. Um I
did not you know, if you check

597
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.880
out our our social media, if
you look at our our Facebook page,

598
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:27.960
I definitely did not take I did
not. I definitely did not miss the

599
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:34.320
opportunity to do the the Dutch Dylan
uh predator style handshake. And and he

600
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.880
he kind of chuckled. He's like, ah, I said, I said,

601
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:37.519
you know, I got to ask
for the predator handshake, and he

602
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.639
said, of course you do,
you know, but you know, I

603
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.159
just and again that was a quick
one. That was like what you know,

604
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.800
just say, hey, love your
work, keep it up, keep

605
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.519
up the great work. And you
know he was he was. He was

606
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.159
just a just an absolute gentleman,
very very good, very very good to

607
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.079
his fans. Michael Bean, now
you want to talk about an interaction and

608
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.360
uh Dave, I I thought I
was like one second away from getting a

609
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.039
chair pulled up, like I was, Yeah, all these people waiting and

610
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.199
Michael Bean just going on this long
conversation with Jeff. Well, you know,

611
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.079
the thing is like yeah, and
what I mean maybe we were were

612
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.079
there maybe what ten minutes, which
I guess is like a long time when

613
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.280
you're talking to convention time. But
um, you know the thing is and

614
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.440
again and like a little a little
pro tip, you know, because I

615
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.880
know I appreciate Scott. You've kind
of mentioned, like the photo thing,

616
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.639
what to expect. Just know this, these these these uh, these amazing

617
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:43.000
people. They have talked about the
their main role or their their big movie.

618
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.400
They've talked about it for you know, years and years and years.

619
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.719
They've answered all the questions. Um, and sometimes I think it's just fun

620
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.960
for them to talk about something they
don't get to normally talk about, you

621
00:43:54.039 --> 00:44:00.119
know. I mean Michael Bean,
we loved him in The Terminent La,

622
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.639
right, we loved him in Aliens, uh, the Abyss Tombstone. These

623
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.440
are these are iconic roles and these
are awesome movies, and yeah, we

624
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.360
could talk about that with him,
but I feel like anyone you know,

625
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.880
can can read any interview, can
pick up any podcast and kind of talk

626
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.079
about his interaction on those films.
I just want to know how how his

627
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.719
latest picture was going, the Red
One, which um is in post right

628
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:31.519
now. It was shot on location
in Brisbane, Australia. So I just

629
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.559
I just asked him casually. I
was like, hey, you know,

630
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:38.239
how how was your time in Australia. And he's kind of like what and

631
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.320
I said, yeah. I said, well, let's let's talk about the

632
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:46.360
red One and he was like,
oh man. And we end up having

633
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.719
like a very lengthy conversation about vacationing
in Australia. UM, I can tell

634
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.599
you, uh, you know,
by way of Michael Bean. I can

635
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.199
tell you where to go in Brisbane. I can tell you, uh,

636
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:01.960
if you're if you're not going to
Broad Beach, you are missing out,

637
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.599
because he swears it is the most
beautiful beach, better than anything you've seen

638
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.440
on the East Coast, the West
Coast. Uh. We talked about we

639
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.679
talked about the folks there, you
know, because I've got I have friends

640
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.719
in Australia. Um. You know, I've always wanted to go there,

641
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.320
but after hearing you know, and
they've I've talked to them endlessly. You

642
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.840
know, they live there, and
they haven't got me on a on a

643
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.599
plane over there yet. Ten minutes
with Michael Bean, I'm ready to you

644
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.440
know, buy my ticket at Quantas
and head over there, because uh,

645
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.719
we we just talked about the Little
Cow and you know how how amazing the

646
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.840
people in Australia are um I did
put you know once he you know,

647
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.320
he quickly saw that hey, we're
you know, we're a show. We

648
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.239
you know, we we were there
to promote our show, and we got

649
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.719
our shirts and our gear and all
that stuff with us. But uh,

650
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.159
you know, I said, well, yeah, can you give me a

651
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:52.719
little little insight track on on the
Red one? And he was like,

652
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.119
well, I'm not you know,
there's only something that there's only certain things

653
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.320
I'm allowed to say. But you
know, he did. He did take

654
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.719
some time to talk about the incredible
cast that that he's with on that one,

655
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:09.159
how hard they worked, and again
this is this is a very incredible

656
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.679
actor because he's not talking about his
performance, he's talking about the crew.

657
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.639
And he's like, Jeff, I
gotta tell you. He goes, this

658
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:22.800
is such a huge movie with such
a small crew. These these men and

659
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.360
women were doing so much behind the
camera to make it all happen. He

660
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.679
goes, and we could not have
done it without them. This is a

661
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.639
guy that cares about when we're talking, when you're talking about the production of

662
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.559
something, this is a guy that
cares about the people that are making it

663
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.440
happen for for the movie. So
uh yeah, we talked. We talked

664
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:43.920
a lot about Australia, which was
a delight as far as I'm concerned.

665
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.280
And then he did you know.
He's like, listen, he goes for

666
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.400
you if your listeners want to know. My favorite hero role is definitely Kyle

667
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:58.079
Reyes from The Terminator. My favorite
villain role is definitely Johnny Ringo from Tombstone

668
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.639
and uh. And that's when I
mentioned, you know, Dave, you

669
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:07.039
know I recently purchased a pair of
the the rebox that they created for for

670
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.119
Aliens in nineteen eighty six. We
had a quick talk about that, and

671
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.000
that again the conversation spun. He
lit up again and he was like,

672
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:20.639
wait, he goes the nikes I
had in Terminator. I desperately wanted a

673
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.480
pair of them. He goes.
They wouldn't let me take him off the

674
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.239
set. He goes, I wasn't
allowed to have them. And then I

675
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.280
went looking for him and I couldn't
find him any of the stories. I

676
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.760
said, well, Michael, that's
because that was a prototype that they you

677
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.840
know, they made for you specifically. That's that's movie history. And he's

678
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:36.719
like, yeah, He's like,
but if I could ever find those shoes

679
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.840
and I was like, well,
good luck, because they're out there.

680
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.599
But I think the last time,
I think the last time I looked for

681
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.360
those those nikes that Kyle reeswears and
Terminator think they were going for like six

682
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:52.480
grand, you know, at auction. So uh, yeah, I don't

683
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:58.639
know. But Michael Bean fantastic guy. Loved talking with him. Hope we

684
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:00.039
get to talk to him again too. He was just he was fantastic.

685
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.440
If you get a chance to go
to any con and uh and meet Michael

686
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.880
Bean to it, I definitely strongly
read argu meet meet this guy. He's

687
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.559
he's fantastic. Yep. Well,
Jeff, you're talking a lot about your

688
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.639
experiences, and you know you mentioned
Reebok a couple of times. It makes

689
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:22.519
me think I can't help but ask
about another celebrity that you met that has

690
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:29.119
some connection with Adidas. Oh gosh, Yes, you're talking about Joe McDaniels.

691
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.960
Darryl McDaniels. Yes, I was
overjoyed to see that he was going

692
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.159
to be there as a featured comic
guest, which I wasn't even aware of.

693
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:43.880
But he's got his own publishing imprint, if I understand this correctly.

694
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:49.480
With Daryl makes Comics. Right,
yep, he was there as a featured

695
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.719
creator. He was one of the
first stops that we made. Um.

696
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.840
He was. He had a lot
of different things at his booth. Obviously

697
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:02.119
everybody knows him from a founding member
of RUNDC. But he's got new music.

698
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.519
Me and my microphone. If you
go to his website, you'll see

699
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.559
it looks like it's a collaboration with
iced T, Chuck, d dj j

700
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:15.039
I Z Jeff. He's got a
new book for kids called Darryll's Dream.

701
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:22.079
He's got some amazing work. One
of the books that that I'm starting to

702
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.360
read Ten Ways to Not Commit Suicide, a book that he had as a

703
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.519
as a as a memoir I want
to he put out in twenty sixteen,

704
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.199
I think, and you had a
great chance to connect with him, right,

705
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.760
I'll be honest with you again.
I love run DMC. So for

706
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:43.599
me, that was kind of a
starstruck moment and we were actually there,

707
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.639
quick plug here a good friend of
our, good friend of ours, good

708
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:54.360
friend of the show, Deff David
Wright Def Dave has just published his third

709
00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:01.559
in a trilogy of books, the
third Uh just just released The Armor of

710
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:07.360
God. Um and you know I
just thought and again, Def Dave is

711
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.400
a run DMC historian. He's been
on the Shirloo You Can't Be Serious podcast

712
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:15.840
talking about run DMC. So I
thought, you know, how about a

713
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.800
how about a nice way to go
congratulations kind of a thing. Uh,

714
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.119
you know, I just asked Darryl, you know, if he had signed

715
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.519
something for our friend def Dave.
And then that led into a conversation about

716
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.360
about writing about like Scott, as
you said, he's an author himself,

717
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.079
so we we talked a little bit
about his writing. We talked a little

718
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.880
bit about the comic dmc U Scott
you mentioned me and my Microphone. There's

719
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:44.320
even a comic for that. So
again, this is this man is just

720
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.480
uh one of the one of the
most genuine that you will meet at an

721
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.320
event like this. Uh. Definitely
taken a lot of time, shows a

722
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.639
lot of interest and the people that
are that are wanting to meet him and

723
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.400
speak with him and and pose,
you know, do a photo with him.

724
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.199
And he was fantastic, you know, he you know, he signed

725
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.039
some he signed some fun stuff for
uh, for our friend Deef Dave.

726
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:08.559
And he's like, hey, let's
get a photo, Let's let's do this,

727
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.400
and I was like, well,
you know, and I even told

728
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.079
him, I said, well,
I said, yeah, well we gotta

729
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:15.679
we'll do We'll do something with post. He's like, oh, well let's

730
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.079
do something right here. You know, let's have some fun. And I

731
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.000
was like absolutely, So you know, uh, you know, we you

732
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.599
know, we we talked about the
show a little bit. Uh you know,

733
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.920
so hopefully, you know, fingers
crossed, maybe we might have an

734
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.159
opportunity to get him on and uh
and talk with him. More on that

735
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:36.679
later though, But again, whether
you are wanting a book for your children,

736
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.079
whether you're wanting a book for yourself, whether you're wanting a comic book,

737
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:45.559
John McDaniels, absolutely awesome, Uh, opportunity to meet him and speak

738
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.840
with him. Fantastic guy. Loved
it. Wayne, Let's uh, let's

739
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.519
head him back to you though.
I think you you talked to someone who

740
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:57.679
has uh he I don't know.
I love him for his his action roles.

741
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.880
I think I love us love him
for his more or villainous roles.

742
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:05.480
But Wayne, how was how was
it talking with Jason Isaacs? He was

743
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.360
fantastic and it was rather surprising.
Um, you know, he's really known

744
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:15.239
for playing his his uh, the
the evil roles the villain in like The

745
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:22.480
Patriots or Star Trek, Discovery or
of course Harry Potter. But his his

746
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:28.079
personality. He is one of the
most the friendliest. Um. He always

747
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:32.039
has a smile. He's very talkative. It was really hard to get away

748
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:37.679
from him. He just wanted to
talk. Um. He's the exact opposite

749
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.000
of what he plays on screen.
But I asked him what he what he

750
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.960
what was one of his favorites things
to play. He says he loves playing

751
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:51.000
villains. But I had him signed
an autograph. I made a little bit

752
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.280
of a mistake, you know.
I had had wanted him to sign for

753
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.599
Star Trek, and which was actually
I found out that's it kind of made

754
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.679
him perk up a little bit.
Everybody was having him to signed Harry Potter.

755
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.480
And the fact that I walked up
and mentioned Car Trek, I guess

756
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.880
not to many people had mentioned that. So that's one of the things that

757
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.159
got him talking. But I asked
him as a captain when he signed my

758
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.480
photo, and he looked at me
and he said, I'm not a captain.

759
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:21.840
I was the Emperor like, yeah, you're right. That was a

760
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.960
mistake. I made a mistake I
forgot, but he was just incredibly friendly.

761
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.639
I loved meeting him, one of
the nicest people of I've ever met

762
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.679
out of all the conventions. So
let's let's write. Let's write this.

763
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.400
Uh, let's let's talk Motor City
Comic Con. Wayne, tell if you

764
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.599
would tell our listeners, like,
is Motor City Comic Con you know,

765
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:45.960
whether you live in Michigan, whether
you live in the Trystarrea like us,

766
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:51.280
whether you live in California, Is
Motor City one not to miss? Definitely?

767
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.360
This was sintort of been my ninth
one that I've been to, and

768
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:59.440
every time I go back it gets
better and better, with better guests,

769
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.960
better dealers. It's I mean,
it's actually I would say it's probably the

770
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:10.280
one you don't want to miss for
the East Coast. It's It's a great

771
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.360
place. And one thing we didn't
touch on really about conventions and especially the

772
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:21.000
Movie City Comic Con is I'm also
a comic collector and the dealers. They

773
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.119
have some fantastic dealers for anything you
want, no matter what's a type of

774
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:31.519
fandom or genre you like, but
for comics it's second to none here on

775
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.960
this side of the country. I
would definitely rate it. I'd rate it

776
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.960
to ten. It's my favorite of
the year. Dave. I know Motor

777
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:45.400
City Comic Con will be back November, the weekend of November tenth. Are

778
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:49.239
we do you recommend? Are we
going? And? Uh? And do

779
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:53.000
you recommend all our listeners join us? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, go

780
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:57.719
go to this event. It's a
great event. Go with friends, go

781
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.599
yourself. You will enjoy it.
How about Scott, Yeah, I'd agree.

782
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:06.760
M It's one that's that's further away, so I mean it's it's a

783
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.519
bit of a drive, but it's
a fun drive. I mean I think

784
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:14.119
there wasn't a dull moment on the
way there, on the way back getting

785
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.920
to it. I think it's it's
definitely I must see. Um, you're

786
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:21.519
going to get that big draw and
you know you have to kind of uh

787
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.119
plan out. You know, we've
got this kind of trifecta motor City,

788
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:30.199
Cincinnati and Columbus for Galaxy. Um, you know there there might be one

789
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.440
there that you don't get to see
someplace else. I'd say it's definitely worth

790
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:36.760
the trip. Jeff, what about
you because this is your first convention,

791
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.719
motor City come Con last year,
so last yeah, last year. Well,

792
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:45.920
I remember I went just thinking that'd
be fun to see some people dressed

793
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.559
up in costumes, because again,
we didn't really we didn't really touch on

794
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:53.519
the whole cosplay thing, which is
a huge aspect of the convention, your

795
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:58.159
circuit, right, I mean there's
actually there's I know, there's dedicated groups

796
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.760
of people that go just to be
there to repair costumes. You know.

797
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:07.920
The people put time and effort and
creativity into creating their own homemade versions of

798
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:13.800
of these these costumes, these suits, and I think it's amazing that there's

799
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:17.079
people that are they're almost like a
for lack of a better expression, like

800
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:21.440
a field medic. They're they're they're
just walking around with like backpacks full of

801
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.079
safety pins, tape, paint,
you know, whatever you need. So

802
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:28.400
if your costume starts to tear fall
apart, they're there to help you.

803
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.880
And they're they're they're just doing you
know, they're not paid to do that.

804
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.239
They're just doing it for love of
the con you know. And uh,

805
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:37.400
and I get it. I totally
get it, and uh and I

806
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.920
love it. So yeah, um, I went, just like I said,

807
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:45.320
to support some friends, have some
fun. Uh, had some amazing

808
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:50.039
connections last year at MotorCity, could
not wait to come back. Uh,

809
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.079
this one did not disappoint, and
I'm already excited about going back in November

810
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:59.280
because I've loved all of the ones
that we've done so far. Um real

811
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:04.320
quick too, for those listening,
I know, Wayne, we haven't really

812
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.400
talked a whole lot about the comic
aspect of it, and I know Scott

813
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.880
has touched on a little bit and
Wayne's mentioned it. Um. Because these

814
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.719
aren't just like you know, you're
you're not gonna see like vendors just with

815
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:19.920
like the this month's issue of The
Amazing Spider Man. I mean, there

816
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:24.480
are some high priced books at these
uh these conventions. So if you're looking

817
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.559
for like a very specific book,
if you're looking for something to complete your

818
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.559
collection, or if you're looking for
like, hey, I've always wanted the

819
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:37.559
first appearance of the Punisher in in
you know, in Spider Man or or

820
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.880
well, I was gonna say,
you know, I know, I know

821
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:46.159
Wayne is after uh Sensational she Hawk
Volume one, issue forty. For the

822
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:52.000
reasons why you were looking for what, you know what just out of loyalty

823
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.400
to you the last time, I
was like, I'm gonna try and walk

824
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:59.760
around and find out if anyone has
Sensational she Hawk forty, you know,

825
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:01.719
and I felt better doing my research. And then, you know, because

826
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:07.599
we won't get into why this book
is so rare, but look it up.

827
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.840
You'll you'll be entertained. It's a
yeah, it is. It is

828
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:15.559
pretty uh pretty goofy um at any
rate. Uh, you know, like

829
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:20.400
I said, if you if you've
got if whether you've got five bucks or

830
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.719
five thousand bucks, you're gonna have
a good time. That's that's how I

831
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:27.480
look at am I right, you
know, you're right. Motor City Comic

832
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.000
Con too. With a lot of
the conventions, especially like Cincinnati and Columbus,

833
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:36.199
Uh, the most of the comic
dealers are local dealers, you know,

834
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.280
usually from within two hours maybe three
hours away. Motor City Comic Con

835
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:45.719
is one of the few conventions in
this area that brings dealers from all over

836
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.800
the country. And if you're looking
for something specific, whether you get a

837
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.320
toy or comic, that's the place
to go to find it. Except for

838
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:58.199
Shee Hall of course. Yeah yeah, listeners, if you if you have

839
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.840
any information about Sensational Sheet Hall issue
forty, where where we can locate one?

840
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:07.039
Uh, please please contact us and
we'll put you in contact with with

841
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.519
Wayne and then you guys can make
your deal. Uh. Listen, I've

842
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.760
had a lot of fun talk about
this. I listen. I love going

843
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.280
on these trips, Uh, Scott. You mentioned the road trips there and

844
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:25.119
back might be some of the more
enjoyable moments this group. But yeah,

845
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.440
but that's the fun thing about these
conventions. You know, you know whether

846
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.400
you're whether you're the guy that shows
up a day in advance because you flew

847
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.159
in and you got a hotel,
or you're the one that's going to sleep

848
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.159
in your car and drive all night. There's something for everyone here. Uh.

849
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.400
Definitely have a fun time. I
think our next next time we're getting

850
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:49.960
together on the road, guys.
Uh, Cincinnat Comic Expo in September,

851
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.639
right, Scott, Scott, who's
gonna be there? We have they listening

852
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.960
one yet? Yeah, they've they've
listed a bunch. You've got a lot

853
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.079
of time to kind of plan for
that because it's happening September twenty second to

854
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.159
the twenty fourth of the Duke Energy
Convention Center in the Hartisancinnati, Ohio.

855
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.920
To get through available online right now. This is another one where you're going

856
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:15.280
to see video game play and tournaments. You've got tabletop, You've got celebrities.

857
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.719
You've got comic creators starting on the
Comic List, just to name a

858
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.840
few. You've got Jim Lee,
Chief creative Officer and publisher. If you

859
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.320
don't know his name, look him
up. Crawl out of the rock that

860
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:35.840
you're under and look him up.
Alex Sinclair, Scott Williams, David Michael,

861
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:42.719
Back, Don Rosa Guy, Gil
Christ, the Cubert School, Wilberrett

862
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:47.159
will be there, the Joe Cubert
School. And celebrities. You've got a

863
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:52.079
whole gamut. I've got a shout
out to the voice actors. So you've

864
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:58.719
got Ashley Eckstein who brought Asoka to
life. You've got James Arnold Taylor,

865
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:05.000
Charles Martinet, you've got Matt Latner
for the Star Trek crowd so far,

866
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.920
you've got Brent Spiner, You've got
John de Lancy. But you're also going

867
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:14.960
to see Christina ricci Um. There
are so many different people that you can

868
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:19.920
connect with these things. M Paul
Williams, Terrors Strong, talk about you

869
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.960
know, voice acting, Royalty,
Vincent Dinofrio, Paul Freeman. We're into

870
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:30.719
otto MGNA when I'll just stop listing
names because there's so many. Are you

871
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.119
are you working for a film buyer? Are you working for Sisset, Comic

872
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:36.440
Gain? Yeah? No, kidding, Hey, I mean you know retainer

873
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.760
um and I will say that,
you know, when we're talking about these

874
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:45.679
shows, there are a lot of
people that are that are paid to put

875
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:50.400
this together and a lot of organizations
that help kind of bring this together,

876
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:53.320
which is fantastic. But then there's
also the volunteers who I've got to give

877
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.760
kind of a shout out to because
I've been on those sides of the desk.

878
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:04.239
They work really hard hours, really
long hours to help all the celebrities

879
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.280
help make the thing happen, everything
from running water out to people to you

880
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:14.960
know, helping to kind of um
manage the money at the table. It's

881
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.760
another way I would encourage if you
ever have the chance, go ahead and

882
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:23.159
volunteer for a show. Oftentimes it
comes with a free ticket. You'll definitely

883
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:27.480
work, but you're going to have
fun time doing it because you get to

884
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:31.800
be behind the scenes and you get
to be connected to the experience, and

885
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.159
for me, it gives you a
chance to you know, work closely with

886
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.920
the people that you admire and help
them out for the day. And that's

887
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:44.039
a special kind of experience that you
can't get any other way. So if

888
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:45.320
you have a chance, it's a
great way to get to a show,

889
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:51.400
and thank you volunteers. I mean, a squeakinger that I didn't realize never

890
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:54.960
long Bottom is going to be there, right, Yeah, there's there's literally

891
01:02:55.039 --> 01:03:00.960
too many people to name. I
know someone if I would have never expect

892
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.960
at a convention here in Cincinnati,
Ohio, Nevill long Bottom from Harry Potter.

893
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:07.440
Really okay, Yeah, And there
are so many that are popping up

894
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.760
all over the place. It's very
likely that there's a show near you that

895
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.719
can have this kind of scale.
Um, go with a friend, go

896
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.360
with a couple, if you have
a chance, and you're gonna have a

897
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.480
good time. Absolutely, Dave.
Quick question as we wrap up, quick

898
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:28.480
question for you. So, on
average a ticket to get into one of

899
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:34.519
these shows, well, on average
twenty five thirty five bucks. Yeah.

900
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.400
Yeah, I mean because they have
they have like the passes, they have

901
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.760
the VIP experience. So again you
get what you pay for. But even

902
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.320
if you if you just want desperately, like if you want to go to

903
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:50.599
since a comic expo with the intent
that you have got to meet Indiana Jones's

904
01:03:50.719 --> 01:04:00.679
original nemesis, Paul Freeman, who
played Belloc Belloc Belloc. If you just

905
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.679
want one chance to meet him,
you can buy a ticket for like twenty

906
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:08.800
five bucks and you can go just
for that one day, or you can,

907
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.519
you know, if you want to
be living the lavish life and you

908
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:14.840
want to get the VIP experience.
But yeah, by the by the package,

909
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:17.199
jump the lines, do all that
kind of crazy stuff. Again,

910
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:21.559
there's something for everybody. But Dave, you know, how do you like

911
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:25.079
if if if I live, you
know, depending on where I live,

912
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.119
how do I how what's the easiest
way for me to find out if there's

913
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.079
a con? Like do I do
I just Google, like, you know,

914
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.840
New Mexico comic Con or you know
New Jersey like wherever I live and

915
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:36.840
just put comic con, Like,
what's what's the best way to try and

916
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.920
find these things? Yeah? I
mean you can go on Google and to

917
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:42.639
type in comic con and it's gonna
pop up with anything. And if you

918
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:46.119
want your local areas wherever you live, big city wise, you're probably going

919
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.360
to find a comic CON's coming.
It may not be a big one,

920
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:53.039
or you may find a big one
that's at least in driving distance like for

921
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.599
us, so they're very easy to
find on Google. I want to kind

922
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.360
of add to that. A great
way to learn about the shows that coming

923
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:04.239
near you go to a local comic
shop, go to a local gaming store.

924
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.440
If you want to know st people
that are right yeah, House of

925
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.559
Plastic. Go to the places where
there's a lot of passion for these kind

926
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:16.519
of things, right your pop culture
mecca's even they're likely to have a lot

927
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:20.760
of promotional materials that are let you
know about what's coming up, and if

928
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.239
not, ask somebody behind the desk. They're always happy to talk about this

929
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.679
kind of stuff, and they're most
likely closest to the pulse of who's going

930
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.719
to be where. Yep, Scott, great tip, Absolutely great tip,

931
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:38.840
guys. I've had a great time
talking about our convention experience. I think

932
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:45.920
we'll probably do this again. Speaking
of getting together again though, fun thing

933
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.639
because you never know what's going to
happen at these conventions or you never know

934
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:54.039
what opportunities are going to exist.
I gotta just for our listeners. I

935
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.960
know we have like a chat,
we have like our own little side chat,

936
01:05:57.559 --> 01:05:59.840
you know, con men. You
know, we talk about which when

937
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:01.840
we going to go to we pricing
and we figure all that stuff out.

938
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:06.880
But man, the three of you, we're on a tangent. You know.

939
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.119
A couple months ago, I would
I would, I would pick up

940
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:15.239
my phone and it'd be like seventy
three missed messages because the three of you

941
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:19.480
were talking about Picard season three,
which and I'm like, I I you

942
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:21.360
know, because I hadn't watched the
show yet, and I'm like, well,

943
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:25.000
I'm I'm I gotta get caught up. I gotta, you know.

944
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.559
But then I realized, like,
this is a recap right here in my

945
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.559
in my in my hand, in
my phone. Now I know that shows.

946
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:36.639
Uh no, that shows finished.
But Strange New Worlds Season two,

947
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:42.599
I know is coming up June fifteenth, I think it premiers, and uh

948
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.400
you got the three of you have
a new yet you had another limited series

949
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.519
for a film by Strange New Wednesdays. Dave. Can you tell us a

950
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.559
little bit about Strange New Wednesdays.
Yeah, So we are going to a

951
01:06:54.719 --> 01:07:00.400
Scott, Wayne and I are going
to be talking about on Wednesdays about Strange

952
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:04.360
New Worlds. The series that say, season two that begins on June fifteenth,

953
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.440
It will have a lot of spoilers, but we'll be talking about those

954
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:13.239
episodes after they've aired, right before
the new episode comes on, so you

955
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.159
can check us out and enjoy what
we have to say about what that series

956
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.199
is going on. Awesome, looking
forward to what you guys come up with

957
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:23.280
that because, like I said,
if if, if it's anything like the

958
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:29.400
Picard season three chat that used to
be the Conman Chat, I think our

959
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:34.440
listeners are going to be in for
a treat. So listen, Scott Dave

960
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:40.000
as always a pleasure. Looking forward
to seeing what you guys have next on

961
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:46.119
a film at forty five, Wayne, welcome and thank you for finally stepping

962
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.239
out of the shadows and giving our
listeners a chance to get to know you.

963
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:55.320
Sir. Oh, thank you very
much for inviting me to be great

964
01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:00.239
to talk to y'all. All Right, until next time, guys. Now,

965
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.599
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966
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