June 21, 2026
Martin Campbell - Casino Royale

Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s! Jeff and Amber are all in on another Bond film and they're joined by Colvin, Jason Colvin, of the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast! Join them for a discussion about the history, the themes, the action,...
Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s!
Jeff and Amber are all in on another Bond film and they're joined by Colvin, Jason Colvin, of the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast! Join them for a discussion about the history, the themes, the action, and the lack of gadgets of Martin Campbell's 2006 relaunch of the 007 franchise, Casino Royale!
This episode is available AD-FREE and extended by 20+ minutes on our Patreon right now! Get started with a FREE 7-day trial. We've got plenty of exclusive content and episodes that you'll only find there! You can also sign up as a free member!
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Connect with us on social media and our website!
You can listen to our Moonraker episode here!
And don't miss our Best of the Bond Girls episode!
Jeff and Amber are all in on another Bond film and they're joined by Colvin, Jason Colvin, of the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast! Join them for a discussion about the history, the themes, the action, and the lack of gadgets of Martin Campbell's 2006 relaunch of the 007 franchise, Casino Royale!
This episode is available AD-FREE and extended by 20+ minutes on our Patreon right now! Get started with a FREE 7-day trial. We've got plenty of exclusive content and episodes that you'll only find there! You can also sign up as a free member!
Check out our NEW YouTube Channel and subscribe now! Our new series Previously On... is exclusively available over on YouTube to cover your favorite TV shows, and ours!
Connect with us on social media and our website!
You can listen to our Moonraker episode here!
And don't miss our Best of the Bond Girls episode!
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This may be too much for a blooded instrument to understand.
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Any movie geek can make a podcast. I want you
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to take your ego out of the equation.
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So you want me to be a half reporter or
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half influencer.
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I knew it was too early to do another Bond episode.
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Well, I understand our double OW episodes are quite popular.
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So let's talk about a film by Martin Campbell, his
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two thousand and six relaunch of the James Bond franchise,
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Casino Royale. Hello, everybody, I'm Johnson, Jeff Johnson.
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I'm Amber Lewis, and this is a.
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Film by podcast Amber. I am so pleased to have
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another double O on today's briefing with us. Uh. You
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can hear him every week co hosting the Surely You
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Can't Be Serious podcast along with Dee Graves. He is
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a dear friend. He has joined us many times over
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the years, so you can be sure he has a
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license to pod. Oklahoma's native son, the Jason Colvin. Hello, buddy, Hey,
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what's up?
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How's everybody doing out there?
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We're we're loving you back, man. It's we've been waiting
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all season to have you back. You know, you're the
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You're our go to guy. You're like, you're like our
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very own Steve Martin hosting Saturday Live.
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Come back, right, I'm your brother from Langley right here.
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I'm the Felix lider.
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You know you are? You are if we if a
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film by had a Felix letter, it's it's gotta be
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Jason Colvin. I didn't think about that. And guys, we've
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this is not our first time together discussing Bond, right,
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I mean, I mean we've had some fun, a couple
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of fun episodes, a couple of collaborative efforts, right, Jason,
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we have done the top.
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We did a Bond girl draft, like draft your best
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Bond Girls, and we talked about all the best Bond girls.
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And then we did a Bond song draft where I
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think you're involved in that as well. Oh yeah, and
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we even went as far as creating our own Bond
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song and that was a lot of fun.
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So I remember you guys both just had amazing themes
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and I was like, man, I thought I hit a
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home run, but I can't. Dame Amber Lewis has really
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put me in my place. You know, we had a
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lot of we've we've had a lot of fun with
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these collaborative Bond episodes. I know some of our buddies,
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like like John Reid from the thirty something Movie podcast, Pat,
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you know, Deaf Dave's been there before, Bill Bant from
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the the All Eighties Movie podcasts. We've it's it's fun, Jason.
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I can only imagine we're gonna do another one at
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some point. We're gonna have to either do like a
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draft for Best Bond Villains or maybe Best Bond Gadgets.
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Maybe absolutely, I think Best Bond Villains. Maybe the next
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one up. Oh, that'd be a good one. Forget our
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good buddy Van Allen Plexico mister oh gosh.
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Yeah, so yeah, yeah, he's he's been with us. He
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actually this is a this is not our first time
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doing a Bond film on a film buy. We actually
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had Van join us. He's he's obviously he is a
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go to Bond expert with on Our Majesty's Secret podcast.
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You know his his show that he does.
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Uh.
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He he joined us for Moon Baker when we had
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our film at seventy five series. A lot of fun,
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a lot of fun. He's he's great. I'd love to
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have him back for another Bond episode. I'm sure we'll
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do one another at some point. Now, I know we
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I know we're excited to talk about Casino Real. But
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I got a shout out one of our listeners. We
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got a guy, Bobby Gibson. And Bobby I know for
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a fact he's listening. And I'll tell you why. I Amber, Uh,
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Bobby reached out to out to let us know he
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he discovered us a few months ago and in that
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short amount of time he has listened to more than
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three hundred episodes from our library. Wow. Percal Evans, Yeah,
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I mean you won't and Amber, you won't believe this.
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Bobby is not a fan of Star Trek. You know,
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he's never seen the movies or the TV shows, but
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he is a fan of our Star Trek themed series,
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Phaser Set to Stunt.
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It's that good though.
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It's I when I when I found out this guy,
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Here's here's someone who's listening to Faser Set to Stunt.
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Where they're where you know, Wayne and Dave and Scott.
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They're they're reviewing Star Trek movies, they're reviewing Star Trek
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TV shows, they're talking about all things Trek. He's like,
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I just I like, I like listening to him. You know,
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they got great chemistry and they're they're fun to they're
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fun to listen to. So, you know, no word on
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whether he's going to become a Star Trek fan. Maybe
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he'll he'll watch something at some point. But I thought
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that was incredible and as soon as he found out
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that we also had a YouTube channel, he immediately started
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following us there. So just wanted to take a moment
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and shout Bobby out. Bobby, we appreciate your support. So
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we need you to send us an email telling us
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your address, your T shirt size, and one of your
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favorite episodes, and we'll send you the newest super Soft
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a film by t shirt.
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Yes, he needs to hop on over on the Patreon
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as well.
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Oh you know what, I didn't think.
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If anybody needs like the special episodes and yeah, we
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got the show free and all that goods.
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Yeah, Bobby, there's another forty or fifty exclusive episodes there
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now that I'm thinking about it. And you know, in
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addition to that, amber our Patreon members like when you
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when you sign up, we're gonna get you the opportunity
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to make a request, you know, tell us whatever director,
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movie actor, whatever the case may be. I like the
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Patreon by request is one of my favorites because it
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gives us a chance.
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To watch some random stuff.
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But it well, yeah, yeah we have and hey, let's
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not forget when you are a Patreon supporter, you're getting
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like the regular show, you're getting it early and ad
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free and oftentimes with you know, extended versions where you know,
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you know, the show that we put out might be
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sixty minutes, Patreon version might be seventy minutes, eighty minutes.
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I don't know, it depends on depends on the edit, right,
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But yeah, just wanted to shout out, Bobby, Yeah, go
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ahead and free.
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Idea was brilliant.
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Yeah, well you guys do something similar to that with
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your patroon, right, Jason, Yeah, surely you can't be serious.
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Has A has a pretty awesome Patreon.
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Yeah, I was kind of a collab conversation between you
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and I, so, well, you know, we're always looking out
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for our listeners and what can we do to you know,
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make them happy. It was your idea, man, that was brilliant.
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I have freaking limit.
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So thanks well Bobby and everyone else out there listening.
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Like I said, you can find all the exclusive bonus
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episodes head to www. Dot Patreon dot com slash a
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three dollars a month and you'll get all that good stuff. Jason.
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You guys, what's the what's the Patreon for for Shirley?
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Is it just the It's patreon dot com slash Shirley podcast.
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There you go, There you go. All right, guys, Martin Campbell,
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this is not the first time we've talked about a
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Bond film. As we said, uh, it's not the first
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time we've talked about Martin Campbell. You can go back
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a few seasons for our episode on the mountain climbing
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thriller Vertical Limit to learn more about Martin Campbell. But
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in the meantime, I've got a few things to share
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about him and a quote. He has often been credited
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with launching the international careers of Antonio Benderis and Catherine
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Zeita Jones. Little film he directed nineteen ninety eight, The
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Mask of Zorro, which I'd love to talk about Zora
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at some point. Did you guys know there's a new
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Zoro show coming out? Oh?
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Really, No, I didn't, but we're gonna do Mask of
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Zorro over on docking Day next week.
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Oh well it is I'd love to talk about. Yeah. Well, yeah,
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I forget that. You you work part time over there Amburn.
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You still got a foot in their door. So Martin Campbell, now,
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this is something I know Jason knows already. I'm not
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going to impress him with this one. But for those
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that don't know, Martin Campbell has the distinction of being
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the only director to direct multiple actors in their debut
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as James Bond nineteen ninety five, he introduces who was it, Jason.
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That was Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye?
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Yes? Uh? And then obviously today's feature, Uh, Daniel Craig
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casina her out.
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I'm thinking it wouldn't it be cool if they brought
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him back for the new Bond whenever they you talk
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about the decision.
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No, Martin Campbell, Oh gosh, Well, here's the thing.
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I got. I got one more fact for you that
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tells me he probably won't. No, but uh interesting, interesting
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enough though, Brosden and Craig, this is the guy that
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gives us not only their debuts but a relaunch of
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the Bond franchise. When you think about it, because GoldenEye
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was kind of like, we're hitting the reset button right now.
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I amber, as much as all of us want to
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see Martin Campbell do another Bond film, he was personally
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approached by Tom Cruise to direct Top Gun Maverick, a
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film Jason and I absolutely love. H He turned it
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Cruise down, saying, hey, I'm seventy five years old and
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an action film on that scale, I just can't do
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it anymore. So he recommended Tom go find a younger director,
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and you know, Tom listened, and you know, I'm I'm
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I'm happy with Joseph Kazinski, you know, but you gotta
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wonder what Martin Campbell's Top Gun Raverick would have looked like.
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I don't know if you could have kept up with
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Tom honestly.
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Right, you know, if you were doing an MVP for
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the Bond franchise, I mean yeah, I mean obviously you've
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got foundational people like Sean Connery, you know, yeah, Roger Moore.
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You could make a case though, that the MVP of
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the franchise is Martin Campbell because he sort of saved
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the franchise two different times. You're absolutely right, you know,
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after Timothy Dalton, which I love Timothy Dalton. I think
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he's great, but for whatever reason, those movies just didn't
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quite land as well as they should. And you know,
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they took off what six years Yep. It was like,
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is Bond dead? We're not sure, Maybe we let's take
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another shot at this, and then he revives it with
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Pierce Brosman.
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Well, and I watched both of these in preparation for
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this podcast episode, and it's really amazing to see like
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the two completely different styles where you're introducing a new
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Bond into the world of Bond that we already know,
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and then you're completely resetting the Bond universe with Daniel Craig,
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and he did both just amazingly.
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Well, you know, when you think about Jason, you brought
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up Timothy Dalton's Bond films. I think the problem there
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because they're great films. I think the problem was they
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were just a little too early. Because Timothy Dalton, if
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you didn't know this, he gets offered Bond back when
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it's like nineteen eighty one, Jason for your Eyes Only.
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He got offered Bond for Her Majesty's Secret Service. Yeah,
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well it was like twenty five or something. He's way
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and you know.
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I can't remember why he said no to that, but
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I remember when he got offered for Your Eyes Only,
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he said, no, it's just it's too campy, it's too
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you know, I just I can't do it. And he
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he was in favor of a more realistic, a darker bond,
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and that's exactly what he gave us. And I just
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don't think we were ready for it.
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You know, took us until about two thousand and six
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to get ready for that dark bond.
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You know, yeah, and you know, and we're good for it.
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But on the favorite aspect of filmmaking, Martin Campbell had
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this to say, I like pre production and post the best.
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I don't like shooting at all. I find it grueling. Yeah,
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I find it grueling and tough, But I love post
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and the whole process of seeing the film finally come together.
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That is exactly, like, almost verbatim, what Alfred Hitchcock said
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about every movie is it. He loved he loved preparing,
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and he loved like getting it ready, you know, to
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go to the audience, and he hated everything else.
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It's just I can't imagine the homework part, the research part,
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is like your favorite aspect of it. It's wild. I mean,
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I get it, Jason. Me and I've talked about this before,
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where you record, you have a lot of fun with
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the episode or your guest, but then you really have
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a good time putting it all together, you know. So
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