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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.
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Welcome to an all new episode of Phasers Set to Stunt,
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much more. Plotting your course on this voyage of the
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USS Enterprise is your Core Trek crew. I'm Wayne Whited,
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and I'm Scott Hoffin and I'm David Byrnth. And today
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we're talking about the new fourth season opener, The season
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premiere of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, titled fallas mariniis
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written by Henry Alonso Myers and Alan B. McElroy and
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directed by Chris Fisher. So from this point on it's
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red alert, folks. There are spoilers ahead, and by now
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you should have went over to Paramount Plus and watch
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the episode. So sit back, relax, and have a listen
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to what we have to say about this week's episode.
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So, Scott, why don't you give us the short summary
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for this?
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Captain Pike is dealing with the loss of Marie Patel
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by immersing himself into his work. After fifteen consecutive action
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packed missions, he and the crew were due for an
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easier assignment. They seem to get one in a mission
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that simply asks them to observe a Stella curiosity from
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a safe distance, basically light show. Of course, that doesn't
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last long as they get a may day from inside
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this space storm, and when they investigate, they get caught
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in the storm and marooned with every system knocked offline.
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Their recovery demands a rare element they find on a
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nearby planet, which Una, Ortegas and Lan investigate by shuttle. Meanwhile,
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the offline Enterprise is captured for salvage. The crew slowly
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realizes they've been knocked sixty five million years into the past,
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captured by Martians, and faced with difficult decisions they have
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to make very carefully to avoid rewriting the entire universe's history.
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So what do you guys think of this episode of
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season premiere finally the fourth season where I know we're
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always really excited about strange new worlds, but I'm curious
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to hear what you guys have to think about this.
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Wow, dinosaur one thing. Come on, you can't go wrong
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with dinosaurs, all right, Yeah, I mean this is a
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very mind blowing, eye opening beginning to a season. For
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crying out loud, you know, I didn't know what to
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expect in this first off. Victual effects were out of
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the out of the world fiercely they were. They were incredible,
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they really were. But I didn't really know what the
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expect of this episode. I didn't know that I was
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going to get a very serious, in depth, making you
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think episode when you got to the end of this,
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because I mean, the things that happened at this end
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of all the things that they caused was ridiculous. I mean,
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off of just Pike decided, you know what, hold on
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a second, I'm just going to make a spur of
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the moment of decision and not stop this from happening,
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And thank god he didn't. Wow, I loved it. I
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thought this episode was incredible. What a great way to
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open up a season. But that's my opinion.
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Yeah, I agree, very interesting and kind of conflicted in
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that moment when it was like, I know that he
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probably has to, but should he Like he's condoning the
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genocide of this this species even though it's invasive. I
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think it did a great job of keeping it light
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in the right places so it didn't seem so dour,
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because this could have started in that way with that
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heavy kind of decision. When they first saw the may Day,
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I was like, Oh, yeah, it's going to be them,
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Like I kind of it was easy to call that
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a little bit but interesting where they took it. And
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I want to credit doctor am Benga specifically for keeping
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the appropriate level of levity, like he was being the
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time police in the right way. But I think he
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is also kind of growing as a kind of a
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counselor friend role to Pike because he knows, like this
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guy's been through the Ringer and he's been diving into
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his work for fifteen consecutive missions. I know there's some
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important ramifications for the choices he makes here, but for
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his state of mind, I've got to try to keep
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this light whenever I can.
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like when you get to the end and the credits
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are rolling, you really start processing everything that just happened
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in that last like last ten minutes, and you're like,
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all the things that were occurring on top of one another,
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and then when you realize that, you're holy crap, Like
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when the Commander basically genocides her entire race right destroys Mars,
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and then you see the asteroid go by them, You're like,
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oh my god, that's the asteroid that destroys the dinosaurs.
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you find out that it's because of that of the
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big bang, the human race started, and all that is like,
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god dang off of one decision that Pike made not
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to interfere right there. It's just so many things to
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think about that, right, It's crazy.
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I thought it was probably the strongest of any of
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the season openers for any of the modern Star Trek.
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But I think I like this more than than anything
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else because this is this felt more like a Doctor
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Who episode than it did a Star Trek episod.
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It really did it. It did.
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I mean, it felt it checked all the boxes, but
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it as a Star Trek episode. It really, it really
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took a huge swing at Star Trek Cannon.
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I mean this, you know, this, this whole thing in.
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Doctor here they call it a predestination paradox, which, you know,
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the fact that they're they're directly tied to the extinction
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of the dinosaurs the rise of the human race. That's
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that's a pretty staggering idea when you think about it
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in Star Trek terms.
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Uh, you know, I just love.
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The idea that they've uh shaped the future of Earth.
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it's just fascinating. I I love this episode from beginning
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to end because I mean, really, this has a lot
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of major implications to the history of Star Trek altogether.
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It does.
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Yeah, if there was any nitpick that I have in
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this episode, it was just that because I really really
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love this episode. There's a lot of big ideas. You
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brought this up, and you did. There's a lot of
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big ideas here coming at you all at once, and
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I felt some of them maybe they didn't get the
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attention they deserve. I think this could have been a
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two parter, or at least a two hour episodes because
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there's a lot of stuff going on here. But I
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loved every minute this and the visual effects were just
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I'm gonna go this. This was some of the best
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that they've done.
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It was, actually it is. I agree. I sat there's
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the top for a strange new world for sure, and
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for a new modern Star Trek. I completely agree with
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you on that one. Waink. Yeah, I'm on the opposite
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of the fence with you on this one, though. I
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think it should stay as a one part because what
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it does for me and what it does for a
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lot of people, it brings you to the water tank
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to talk about it, where I think this Pater would
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have explained too much. This one is making the audience
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talk and think and process everything that happened in this episode,
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and it's done everything you wanted to do as a writer,
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because you want people to talk about this, and I
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just I mean, when I'm looking at people's reviews and
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people are just praising this, everybody is.
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They are talking about this, and that's what I really
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really like. I've been watching after the episode air too.
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I watched it Thursday. I couldn't wait because everything I
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heard about it I loved. But watching people talk about it,
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people love this It's great to hear a lot of
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love coming from New Star Trek after spending you know,
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all this time hearing all the hatred and stuff. People
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are really liking this see this episode. I really hope
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they're able to keep this up because starting this strong,
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that's a tough act to follow.
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I hope they do.
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They get the bar high right now. There's no doubt
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about that.
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been hearing about this version of Trek going away, I
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think is disappointing, to say the least. But I hope
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that what they do with the Martian species and the
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kind of arachnid insectoid kind of species, put that in
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a drawer, but don't lock it. I don't say it
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needs to come up again in strange New worlds. I
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don't think it needs to be, you know, something that's
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kind of setting up, something that's gonna bake and explode.
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I'd much rather see a future series kind of pick
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up on that and use that for story fodder, especially
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like the water cooler thing. Like you said, Dave, is
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perfect because it's like, let this spark people's imaginations for
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a while. Yep, but let the rest of the series,
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just ride out. Don't make them big bads or anything
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else like that.
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I haven't seen an episode of Star Trek in a
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long time. Create ripples. This good ripples in a long
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long time. Most of the stuff. And you guys, we've
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talked about it in many, many episodes, and how all
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the negative, toxic people we've seen, there's no toxic talk
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about this episode. Everybody is just absolutely praising this thing,
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as they should because this is a phenomenal episode. Y.
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you you've kind of talked me out of that, I
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I just I love this episode. I love death better.
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nitpick I would have is I don't think it is
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it Asha to the Vulcan Cadet. I don't think she
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was in it enough. I felt like she kind of
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got put in the back a little bit, which makes
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sense because a lot was going on, I get it.
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and we got some comedy relief there a little bit
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with her and with Fock, and you know, with Erica
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and stuff like that, and then she kind of went
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off to the back until the end. Again, He's like, oh,
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here she is again. That's my only nitpick. That's it.
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an important role in the season. It wouldn't just be
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a Thoroughway character that they've been introduced. But you know,
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that brings me up something else. I wanted to mention
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to you guys, ask you did you start getting vibes
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of the end is coming with this episode?
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Part of that for me was I feel like, where
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are they going with Leon?
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I have a feeling she's going to go the wrong
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direction that we don't want her to go because of
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the things that occurred in this episode. I feel like
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the part of her that's Cohn is starting to come
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out because she doesn't feel pain anymore because she broke
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her hand in this episode. And then you know she's
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saying that things are starting to change in her So
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what does that mean? Won are they leaning towards? Is
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she going to become a villain? What don't I don't know.
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I'm worried about that, but I do feel like the
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Indie is coming way.
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what happened to some of these characters. Why haven't we
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heard about them during the original series?
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You know, what happened to them?
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I think we're starting to get the beginning of those
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final stories. And yeah, I'm wondering about her, I mean,
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curious as to where they're going to go with it,
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I really am.
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mean a step on you. Even Una getting promoted, you're
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already seeing that they're to push you know.
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and all that, but like when we were talking about
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Starfleet Academy, we were starting to see some of the
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names on the walls, it was like, oh, so this
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person doesn't have an ending, you know, like their promotion
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doesn't go much further. Whatever problem you see about that is.
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of those. I believe it was, But I hope what
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happens is that we see her fight for control over
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that side of her quite a bit, which possibly leads
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to her leaving. But I don't want to see her
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lose that fight. And I think it's it's you know,