1976 - The Bad News Bears

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Oh, my boys, would like
to say something to your team. Boys.

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We just want to say, you
guys played a good game and we

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treated you pretty unfair all season.
We want to apologize. We still don't

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think you're all that good at baseball. Team you got guts aaliyah, Hey

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Yankees, you can take your apology. Hey, you a trophy and shove

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it snaight up your ass. And
another thing, just wait till next year.

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Yea. Hello everybody, and welcome
back to nineteen seventy six. It

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is a limited series film a film
by podcast. We are focusing on some

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of the iconic films from nineteen seventy
six. We're gonna share some behind the

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scenes information, kind of talk about
our favorite underrated moments, share some words

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that matter. And today I am
joined by my good friend who is no

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stranger to our show. I'm talking
about Jason Colvin from The Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Hello, Jason, what's up? Jeff? How's it

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goal man? It is going great. Jason, if you wouldn't mind for

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and that's why I love your podcast, Jason, As I said, you're

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You know, you have had extensive guest

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Right. Yeah, So thanks man, I'm so glad you keep having

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me back. We've done. What
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the Creeps, We've done Wisdom,
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my podcast Alien three, where We've
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heck happened with Alien three, and
you and I actually, uh, we

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go round and round a little bit. We kind of tussle. You know.

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I think I think anyone that's listened
to the two of us talk movies,

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uh several times we typically are like, hey, I love this movie,

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and hey, I love this movie
too. And when they tune into

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the Shirley podcast and and here the
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a little bit of odds, you
know. I right, that is a

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spirited conversation for today, Jason.
I got a nig glue cooler full of

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Budweiser, Miller, High Life,
Schlitz and cores. So what do you

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say you join me. We'll crack
open a cold one. We'll talk baseball

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with the Bad News Bears. Okay, wait, wait before we go any

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further. We've got it. We've
got to do it, Jeff, we

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have to do it. What's that? I know it's corny, but oh

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you're not gonna make us do this? All right? Here we go,

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first base, second base, third
base home home around these bases, we

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will. I love it. I
knew the coach. I knew the coach,

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and you was gonna come out today. So oh yeah, yeah,

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I'm excited about this. Yes,
I see, I was math how a

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lot on this movie. I bet. Let's start off first. Let's start

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off with the writer, Bill Lancaster, because we've got to have a great

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Any great baseball movie has to start
with a great script. Jason, do

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you happen to know anything about Bill
Lancaster? Here's what I know about Bill

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Lancaster is not much. Maybe you
can help with this. I do know

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he is the son of world famous
actor Bert Lancaster. Yeah, yes,

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that's correct, and that he wrote
this movie based on his and his son's

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experience together in little league baseball.
That that is absolutely right. Buttermaker's grumpiness

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is actually taken from Bert himself,
who who we also know. Uh no

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stranger to baseball. He uh he
was featured in Field of Dreams. He

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played Moonlight. Graham, that's exactly
right, that's exactly right, now,

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Graham. Yep. Now, Bill
Lancaster he the Bad News Bears movies.

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But do you happen to know what
other huge movie that you and I both

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love that he wrote. He wrote
the thing. Yes, John Carpenter's the

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thing. Hey, Swede, he
was even he even played one of the

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Norwegian uh extras, one of the
one of the guys that the really awesome.

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Okay, like when when they're watching
the videos when McCready brings back the

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videos, Yeah he is. He
is one of the Norwegian guys. But

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oh man, love it? How
do you love it? I would love

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We don't. I know, we
don't have time to do it today,

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but I would love to find out. How do you how do you show

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up to John Carpenter's office to say, Hey, I'm the guy that can

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write this movie for you, and
here's my body of work and it's The

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Bad News Bears. Like I've done
The Bad News Bears, which is a

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kid comedy about baseball. So I'd
like to help you with this science fiction

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thing you're working on. Yeah.
I don't get it, but uh,

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but I'm glad. I'm so glad
that he did he do it. How

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about director Michael Ritchie When we're talking
about this, Michael Ritchie, like you

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said, it is kind of like
Ron Shelton. He's the sports guy.

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Right, he's done. Yeah,
he's done The Scout, he did Digstown,

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he's done the Bad News Bears.
But he's also done like Wildcats,

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Golden Child, Fletch, Yeah,
he's this is the guy to give us

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Fletch semi tough with with Burt Reynolds. That's right, another football movie.

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He It's funny when you think about
his background because we're talking about a Harvard

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educated Oscar winning Uh. You know, a director of an Oscar winning film,

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you know he he uh, he
did The Candidate with Robert Redford.

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Yeah, that's right. We we
love Michael Richie. We have covered him

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on our nineteen eighty sixth series.
We did Wildcats, and we did The

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Golden Child. I'll tell you right
now, if we do a fourth Michael

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Ritchie film, it has to be
nineteen ninety two Diggstown, if only for

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the chance. Yeah it's a great
movie, but if only for the chance

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to call out that it's the fourth
time we've done a Ritchie film, and

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it would be the fourth time we
cover a Louis Gossa junior film. So

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that seems made in heaven right there. It seems like it's going to have

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to happen next season. I don't
know. Hey, you know, just

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looking at his body of work,
he and matth that will work together several

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times. Yeah, Matt, that
was kind of like his his good two

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guy for a while. Right,
So bad News Bears. There's Survivors with

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Robin Williams. Have you ever seen
that? It's it's been a few years,

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but yes, it's funny. It
is hilarious. I love that one.

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What about the Catching Trip? I
think that's what I need to I

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need to revisit. Maybe you know
as my as my good buddy and co

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host from a film by Brad Koza
would say, it's a second chance Sunday

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because that's another one. You got
Walter Mouthou you've got dan Ackeroid in a

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comedy. It should work. So
I remember, I think I think I

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remember seeing it when it first came
out, and maybe maybe it just wasn't

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for me then. But what,
I don't know, what do you what

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do you think you have it?
Well? I rented, you know,

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I VHS rented it, So that
tells you how long ago it's bence I've

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seen it. Uh, you know, dan Ackroid's kind of hit and miss

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for me. Yeah, I don't
really remember. I didn't like it very

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much at the time. Let's talk
a little bit about the casting the process

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on this. Apparently, I don't
know if you saw this, but apparently

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wasn't exactly a formal reading. There
was a baseball game set up on the

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back lot at Paramount Pictures, just
to see can these kids not only can

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they play, like do they have
the fundamentals, but can they can they

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believe it played badly? Because you
know, we need good we need good

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players like the Yankees, the Denny's
Yankees, and you know, and the

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Mets and the Athletics, but we
also need to know like and these kids

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miss grounders and throw to the wrong
bass and just look bad. I think

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that's really cool that they that that, that the richie would do that.

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I think that's fantastic. One of
the things that drives me insane, particularly

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when I watch grown people play sports, you know, act in sports movies.

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Being a former athlete, I'm sure
you do too. You look at

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him, You're like, that dude
can't hit. That dude can't hit that

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sling. That swing is weird.
I can see it. When you know,

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we're talking baseball, certain baseball movies
when just when they the way they

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the way they hold a bat,
yeah, or that you know, whether

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the way they choke up on a
bat, it's like, what have you

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ever played baseball? Because that's that's
not how that's not how it works.

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Man. Well when you know and
what you're talking about there, the kids

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in this movie have to sell what
they're doing, and I think they do

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it beautifully. And I don't think
they're acting. I think they're kicking groundballs.

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I think they hit rockets at them. And you know, there's one

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scene in particular, I think it's
it's one of the Spanish speaking kids.

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They throw the ball to him and
misses it. It hits him in the

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hand. Yeah, oh yeah,
he does little little he does like the

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mouse the owl and shakes his hand. Yep. I don't think that that

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wasn't acting. I would have to
think that maybe it is like a straight

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up batting practice, and let's let's
just roll the camera, you know,

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bea b footage and just get shots
to these kids missing flyballs and just looking

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terrible. I'll tell you this real
quick. I coached both of my sons

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little league teams. So I have
two boys they're one's twenty one and one's

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nineteen. Now, I was setting
out the basis for the first practice of

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the season with my middle son.
So we haven't even I haven't even addressed

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the team. I haven't started practice. You know, kids are showing up.

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I'm I'm literally putting out the bases
and some kids show up. I'm

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like, okay, guys, just
go out there. And then you know,

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in the outfield and warm up.
First throw of the season. We

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have one kid's got a good arm, throws that one kid missus hits him

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in the nose, breaks his nose, blood everywhere. That whole thing.

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I haven't even set out the basis
on the season yet. You are.

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Butter Maker Films primarily filmed in the
San Fernando Valley. And here's one thing

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I learned that I loved the Bears
sponsor Chico's Bail Bonds. That was an

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actual local company. Love it right. That is so perfect for this movie

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and and for the Bears team.
Because the other cool thing, and I

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think the first time, maybe think
of the first couple of times you watch

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this, you know, it kind
of goes over your head. They're in

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a league where the other sixteen teams. You know, they're playing against the

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Yankees, the Mets, the Athletics, the White Sox. The Bears are

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the only team in that league that
don't have an MLB name, And I

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definitely think that helps to kind of
show how much of the outcasts that they

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are. Yeah, I love that
because it it did. It totally went

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over my head the first couple of
times I watched this until I kind of

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picked up on it. Speaking of
the White Sox, Uh, you know,

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the Bears get that one, they
get that one win against the White

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Sox because he can't feel the off
team. Yes, you know he's only

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got eight players. You recognize that
guy, right, he's in Fletch,

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He's in Yeah, that is That
is Erwin R. Fletcher's ex wife's attorney

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who was always showing up to shake
him down and get alimony. I love

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that guy. I am neither loitering
nor stocking. I am. Yeah.

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That guy's great. He's awesome.
I'm gonna ask you know, Coach Colvin,

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I'm gonna ask you a question.
Yes, in a situation like that

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where you've got your team shows up
to play, the other team shows up

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to play, everyone's in their uniforms. Moms and dads have packed the cars.

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If you have a situation, you
know, because the white you know,

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the White Sox manager. He goes, Hey, I've got a plan.

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I'm gonna have my two guys play. I get that we have the

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rule book, but in that kind
of sense, can't we just let the

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kids play. We're gonna let the
kids play. Absolutely, don't let to

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put kids play, right, I
mean, of course, even if it's

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like a hey, technically this is
a forfeit win for for the Bears.

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But we're gonna still play and have
some fun out there. Let the kids

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play, right, all right,
It's all about the kids. It's all

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about the kids. Well, let's
take a quick break, and when we

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get back, Jason, I want
to I wanna go over what I'm gonna

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call the starting lineup for this team. Awesome. Excuse me, ma'am.

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We'd like to take away their schlitz
and have them try our beer. Do

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you want to take away bear schlitz? You want to take away their gusto?

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You're cute, dumb, a cute. If you want to take away

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their schlitz, they're gusto, you're
gonna end up a Carstone in a holl

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right, going to turn you into
an off ramp on the intersade. If

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you don't have switch, you don't
have you don't have beer. All Right,

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we are back, Jason, h
We have some We had some talent

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on on this field, right absolutely. You know, I wanted to tell

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you something about that field before we
get into the talent. Okay, I

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found this interesting. Now, I
I'm not a California guy. I haven't

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been in LA in a long long
time, but I know you go out

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there, and I know Brad's out
there, so maybe he can shed more

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light on this. But apparently there
is a Lancaster Field out there named after

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Bill Lancaster. Okay, really okay, And so people who visit Lancaster Field

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they know this is the guy who
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they go the Lancaster Field. They're
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would play their games, and so
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was shot in Chatsworth, California,
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actually filmed at Mason Park and I
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soon as the guy was showing where
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yep, absolutely still there. Now
the bleachers look a little different, but

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it's very recognizable. Okay, well, I'm definitely gonna have to hit Brad

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up and find out, you know, when we're heading to the Lancaster field,

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because I'm not going out there without
without getting some some some picks for

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you, you know, maybe have
a maybe have a game of catch with

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Brad, you know, see see
see what he says. That's right,

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we'll grab a bat punk Yeah,
exactly. Uh. Walter Matthau as Buttermaker,

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as you mentioned he is, he's
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Makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
plus ten percent of the box office and

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in the late seventies. That's that's
a good deal, right. Oh yeah,

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definitely. And you know he's looked
a hundred years old his entire life.

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Yeah, he's fifty six in this
movie. I'm not shocked that he's

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fifty six in this movie. But
at the same time, he looks a

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little bit younger than fifty six.
Like I like, I think we were

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talking about this earlier, and I
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you know, And I think it's
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you know, in the seventies,
you know, when we see him

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in the eighties, in the nineties, when he's when he's doing the grumpy

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old men movies and he's he's in
JFK. You know, he's kind of

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settled into a heavier right, a
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and he definitely looked younger, but
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how do you you know, you're
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guy and the jerk, Like how
do you how do you do it?

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And he just said, well,
what, you know, I hit my

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thirties and I just got uninhibited about
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you know, it worked because all
of a sudden, all these nice guys

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are, you know, getting out
of the way so I can take these

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all these roles. So he was
happy about it. Yeah, Now Tatum

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O'Neill, who plays Amanda. You
want to talk about deals, she's making

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three hundred and fifty thousand dollars plus
a percentage of the profits. You have

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to ask, well, the first
question you gotta ask is why is she

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getting such a big payday? She
had just won an Oscar Yes, actress,

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are you kidding me? The youngest
person ever to win an Academy award

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at age ten. She wins the
Best Supporting Actress for Paper Moon, and

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she's she's Hollywood worlty because her father
is Ryan O'Neill, So you can kind

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of understand how how she gets.
You know, most of the kids that

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are on this are making like three
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Yeah, and then you've got you've
got Tatum O'Neil making making six figures and

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getting a percentages. She's not alone
though. We got Jackiear o'hiley as the

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legendary Kelly Leak. Yeah. Now
now he's coming off in nineteen seventy five.

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John Schlessinger film, who we recently
talked about last month when we did

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Pacific Heights. He's in Slessinger's nineteen
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Oh wow yeah. Now, kind
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the time, but over over the
years it's kind of got like a cult

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thing happening where people are like,
oh yeah, it's you know, you

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go back and like you see like
the cinematic merit in it, apparently,

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but got up. I've got something
for you. Got an alternate, alternate

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universe for you on a couple of
these people. Okay, Okay, this

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I don't know, so laid on
me. Okay, So other than Walter

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math Out as butter Maker, m
let's see if you can visualize any of

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these guys. Okay. So the
first guy they talk about is Burt Lancaster,

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right, yeah, yeah, his
son writes the screenplay. Well,

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maybe we could get your dad to
play Buttermaker and Bill Lancaster is actually the

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guy who's like, Nope, not
happening because I don't want people to think

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that I got this success because my
dad's involved. So he actually nixed it.

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Okay, smart move. Then they
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I'm gonna say no to Warren Beatty. I just don't see him in that

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role and Steve McQueen I think definitely
could have done it, but he's he's

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too cool for a role like this. So is perfect. Mathou is the

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perfect And I say this, I
say this respectfully and lovingly. He's the

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perfect shlub that can pull it off. I watch math Ou on this.

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I believe that he was a great
ball player in his heyday. I believe

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that he cares about the kids.
But I also believe he has damaged and

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he has his you know, he
has those like fletch like uh at,

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you know, tendencies to kind of
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to and you know, get one
and get one over on people. Right.

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Yeah, definitely the guy who's always
always has a beer within arm's reach.

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Exactly. I've got an alternate universe
for you on Amanda. Do you

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want to hear this? Okay,
Okay, Tatum O'Neil was not their first

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choice. Listen to the who they
actually cast in this role, and you

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could probably guess it, and he
guesses all right, I'm thinking, I'm

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thinking Actresses of the correct age YEP
in nineteen seventy six, nineteen seventy five.

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I would say, I'm gonna give
you two guesses. Okay, all

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right, I'm gonna go Christy McNichol
maybe yep, bingo Okay, And if

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I had I know she can't possibly
do it because she's in another nineteen seventy

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six movie. But but maybe someone
like Jodie Foster nailed it. Nailed it,

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Okay, you nailed it. They
had hired Jodie Foster to play Amanda.

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Okay, she drops out to do
taxi driver. Okay, U good

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call. I don't know, good
call, Okay, I mean yeah,

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it's a good call because you know
she she wouldn't bet Jodie Foster today if

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people knew her as Amanda and bad
news bear. So yeah, all right,

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that was a good, good call
by Jodie Foster. And as I

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understand it, they had basically told
Christy McNichol that she had the job,

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and then when she came back over
a weekend, it was Tatum O'Neil's job.

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Oh that's she's like, wait,
abuite what happened? That's that's not

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cool. I mean especially, I
mean you're talking about a child actor.

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Like, right, I don't I
got one more for you? Okay,

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auditioned not seriously considered but auditioned.
Yeah, eleven year old at the time,

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Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh wow,
I now see. I can't see

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her any younger than like seventeen when
she's in a Girls Just Wanna Have Fun

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or you know, immediately I was
immediately thinking about her as a Willard's girlfriend

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and footloose. But you know,
she's got the she got the acting chops,

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right, maybe she could have been
Amanda there you go, all right?

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I like that. Well, so
no, no, uh no casting

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whatef's on. Jackie ar o'hiley.
No, alright, I'll tell you right

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now. I don't care what you
say. No one could have played that

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role of Kelly Leak than Jackie Earl
Haley. Like he It's like you,

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Jason. You know when you watch
a movie and you have a young kid

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who's trying to play older or play
tough, and it just comes off as

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cheesy or it comes off as as
cute, Right, I don't get that

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from from his performance. Like this
kid, he's a badass in this movie

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and I you know, he's smoking
cigarettes, he's on a Harley David's a

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dirt bike. He's you know,
he's dressed probably like, you know,

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ten years older than what he should
be. But it's believable. Like,

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I believe this kid is a you
know, a minister society. But I

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also believe, you know, he'll
have your back if if you need him

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to. Yeah, I totally agree
with you. Most of the time,

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when I'm watching kid actors try to
play tough, I'm like, that kid

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just needs a wopan. Yeah.
But when I watched Jackie Arrol Haley,

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I think if I did anything to
him, I would have a stiletto in

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my tires, you know. Yeah, exactly, So this is the kid

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that'll pull a blade on you.
Yeah, definitely. Can we talk for

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a second about Vic Morrow playing the
Yankees coach Turner Jason. Has this guy

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ever not played an asshole? I
looked it up, man, I was

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looking for like a Vic Morrow movie
where I remembered him as like, oh,

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yeah, the lovable Vic Morrow.
It doesn't exist. I'm with you,

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Van, He's always, I mean, I say always, the two

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roles I'm most familiar with him.
Man. Are this in Twilight Zone?

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You know? And he was an
unlovable character in both? Oh gosh,

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yeah, I'll tell you it.
Well, it doesn't it doesn't stop there.

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There's a I think we might have
talked about this a long time ago,

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or at least at least there was
a conversation you and I were having

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with several several other buddies. But
he also does a Roger Corman movie called

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Humanoids of the Deep, and he
plays an asshole on that too. He

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is not likable in anything. Man. You know, I don't know if

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you remember this or not. You
probably do, but that is Jennifer Jason

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Lee's dad. Yeah, and he
was that He was the actor who was

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killed along with two other child actors
in the Twilight's in the movie. It's

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sad because Twilight's in the movie.
First off, it's awesome. I love

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I love Twilight's on the Movie's great. His his segment, it's yeah,

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he plays a he plays a total
jerk, but he also has a moment

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of redemption towards the end. And
it's kind of sad when you you know,

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when you know the the story,
you know, especially if you know

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the gruesome details of how he died
on set. It's it's a It's one

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of the things where he's such a
he is you know, like we we

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we kid around, we say,
you know, he always plays a jerk

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and everything, but he is a
he was an incredibly talented actor, and

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it's a little it's a little disheartened
to think, you know, he that's

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what he's. One of the things
that he's he's known for, though,

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is his is his death? I
mean infamously, Yeah, you know John

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Landis and Steven Spielberg had to lead
the country. Yes, I mean Landis

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had that barely got out of jail. M hm. So rounding out the

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cast of the adult characters, you've
got Joyce Van Patton playing the playing her

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name is Cleveland. She's like the
athletic director for the fields. Yes,

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without even looking you hear that name
Van Patton and you think, okay,

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well, she's either a sister or
a cousin of Dick Van Patten. Turns

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out she's his sister. Oh do
you know who she was married to?

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No, Martin Balsom Martinson, famous
for well, famous for many things,

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but I always know and love him
from the Detective from Alfred Hitchcock Psycho.

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Oh my gosh, are you kidding? Yeah? And now for fans of

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our nineteen eighty six series, fans
of Chuck Norris, he plays Benjamin Kaplan

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in The Delta Force. He's one
of the he's one of the hostages on

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the plane. So yeah, So
Joyce not a very likable character in this,

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Like you would think like she's you
know, when you first watch this,

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you just assumed that she's the hard
working, lovable type mom, you

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know, baseball mom type character who's
just there for the kids. But she's

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definitely siding up to Vic Morrow.
She's like his, like his Hinchman,

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hinchwoman. I should say, I've
had some experience with people that you think

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are nice, kind of winning the
league and not afraid to stick it to

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you when the schedule tournament comes out, or that type of thing. You

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know. So so so Cleveland rings
true, Like when you when you watch

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this movie, you're you're like,
I know a Cleveland. Yeah. Do

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you recognize Joyce Fan Pattent for anything
else? I do not. I always

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know her. I know her from
this and I know her from one other

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fantastic eighties film if you remember a
little film called Saint Elmo's Fire. Yes,

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yeah, so Mayor Winningham mom is
Joyce Van Patton in the movie.

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Is the one that's like whispering,
like drugs you know, yeah, prison,

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Yeah, talking about Rob Lowe's character. Yeah, that's Pat. Oh

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that's great, that's fantastic. I
love Samos Fire Saint Ellis Fire. Oh,

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it's I love that movie too.
As far as the rest of the

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Bears are concerned, there's only a
few of them that appeared in television or

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film after these movies. Yep,
I've got I've got something for you on

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Toby. Toby Whitewood. Toby Whitewood. He okay, So the city council

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member's son, Okay, yep,
Yeah, he is now a pastor at

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a church in Connecticut. Yep.
Okay, so he he hung around,

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acted for a little bit, nothing
major, and is now a pastor.

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How about that any I'll tell you
I went digging. There's not a lot

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on these kids as far as where
they're at, what they're doing. I

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know, I know they kind of
got together for a fortieth anniversary thing a

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while back, like a photo shoot, but even then, like half of

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them were there, half of them
weren't. Yeah, you know, I

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don't know. It's I do know
that the one that played Tanner, Chris

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Barnes. All the interviews I saw, like where they where they did get

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ahold of some of these kids.
They were all asked the same question,

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like, what's going on with Chris
Barnes, And apparently, you know,

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after after he does the Bad News
Bears movie, he does a second one,

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doesn't do the third one, and
then he does some TV movies like

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after School Specials, and then kind
of just fades away, last known to

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be working in Utah and a flower
shop, but does not talk about the

402
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.440
Bad News Bears, does not talk
about his time making the film, and

403
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:55.720
doesn't really have any contact with the
with the cast and crew. Yeah,

404
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.119
that is really too bad, because
he is by far my favorite character in

405
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.359
this He's got to be your favorite, right, Yeah, I mean he

406
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.480
like that that scrappy kid that it's
telling it like it is. You know,

407
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:14.640
Stick fights the entire seventh grade.
Yeah you wait, you fought the

408
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.559
entire seventh grade. Yeah. I
love I love I love Tanner. He's

409
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.839
he's probably he's probably my favorite character
in the movie. How about you?

410
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:29.119
Definitely Tanner. I mean, I
love Mathow, but Tanya Tanner's it.

411
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.960
You know. Yeah. It's one
of those things where as a kid you

412
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:40.200
thought you thought Kelly Leak is cool, but you you felt more like Tanner,

413
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:45.240
like Tanner's coming over to playing Nintendo
with you. Kelly Leak, It's

414
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.079
not you know, Kelly Leak is
still in your lunch money. Right,

415
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.920
That's right, that's right. I
love how I mean, we can we

416
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.319
can talk about Tanner here and when
we talk about quotes, but it tells

417
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.200
his coach go back to your beer
and you know, get out of here.

418
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.960
Buttercred and you know, just has
all these funny lines, you know

419
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.400
he does. I'll tell you the
one thing watching it. You know,

420
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.160
when you haven't watched this for a
while and then you watch it recently,

421
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.400
it's you kind of I'm a little
taken aback, just like some of the

422
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.119
things they do say, because this
movie is known, it's it's got some

423
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.240
real vulgarity in it, and these
kids are saying they're definitely saying some things

424
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.039
that they shouldn't be saying. And
I can't imagine you try and make this

425
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.319
movie today. I know they did
a remake in two thousand and five,

426
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:30.519
but you try doing this today,
You're not going to get some of the

427
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:36.559
language coming out of Tanner's mouth.
I don't think it's uh, it's it's

428
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:42.119
bad. But it's funny. It's
funny. He offends everybody. He's an

429
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:48.799
equal opportunity as center. That is
this for sure, I got I got

430
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.480
one more thing for you. As
far as what was going on on set,

431
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.400
yep. So let's talk about celebrities
on set. According to according to

432
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.599
David Pollock, uh, he he's
the kid who that played Rudy Stein.

433
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.000
You know that wasn't exactly that,
you know, the thick glasses, you

434
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:12.000
know, Yeah, I can't throw
strikes. So he shared that there was

435
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.720
a quote a constant parade of celebrity
guests on set. So Ryan O'Neill is

436
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.400
there all the time to visit his
daughter, which goes without saying. Sure.

437
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.599
Bert Lancaster is dropping in to check
up on his son. Jack Lemon

438
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.640
visits to seek his pal Walter Mathau, and he's taking the kids out to

439
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.480
Baskin Robbins after the shooting. Yeah, could you imagine you're you're working the

440
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.599
counter Baskin Robbins and here comes Jack
Lemon and you know, nine ten year

441
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.279
olds. Yeah, now, this
would have been awesome. I have to

442
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.119
believe the kids love this, this
one more than any of the movie stars.

443
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:54.160
Steve Garvey showed up way. That's
fantastic. You're you're Jason, You're

444
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.880
you're in a baseball movie. You're
playing baseball, and here comes one of

445
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.079
the game's greatest players just to meet
and talk with you, I mean,

446
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:07.000
world famous star of the Dodgers.
Yeah, and you know, you know

447
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.119
he had to have you know,
probably taken a little batting practice with them,

448
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.200
did some fielding, had had some
catch going on. So I think

449
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:19.079
that's awesome and that's really cool.
And lastly, television star Bill Bixby,

450
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.039
who would go on to star in
The Incredible Hulk. He stopped by several

451
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.359
times because one of the kids worked
with him on a on a TV series.

452
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.839
It's called The Courtship of Eddie's Father. Bill Bixby, famous for being

453
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.440
The Incredible Hulk. I also believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that

454
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:43.880
he shared the screen with your good
friend Valerie Perrine in the only nude scene

455
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:50.000
ever shown on public television. Yes, that's correct. And his reaction to

456
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.920
seeing the divine Miss Perrine topless when
he wasn't expecting to that is that is

457
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.200
television history. I think I love
I love that moment. Yes, on

458
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.119
PBS, that's that's where you're gonna
go to get away, to get away

459
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.839
with it, right. I got
one other thing for you that I dug

460
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:13.159
up. All right. Himie Escobido, who played Jose Aguilar, one of

461
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.760
the He was one of the small
ones that yeah, couldn't talk, Yeah,

462
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.880
couldn't speak English. Yeah, well
in all actuality. In real life,

463
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.800
he couldn't speak Spanish. He only
spoke English, right, that's perfect,

464
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.039
and neither one of them could speak
Spanish. He is now an La

465
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:36.440
County Reserve Deputy Sheriff in La County. So all right, way to go,

466
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.480
himI. Yeah, I love it. So yeah. It's one of

467
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.679
those things like these kids might not
have grown up to become movie stars,

468
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.039
but they all went on to have
lucrative careers and and and find their calling

469
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.360
if one, if one made it, made it big jackiear o'hilly playing very

470
00:34:53.159 --> 00:35:00.280
warm and loving characters like Rorshak in
Watchman, right, and Freddy Krueger and

471
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:06.079
a Nightmare ONLM Street. Yeah that's
right, okay, kind of about that.

472
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.960
Yeah, not warm and lovable,
but no, I'll be I'll tell

473
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.199
you right now. I love Zack
Snyder's Watchman. He is he's got to

474
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.760
be everyone's favorite character. You know, if this was g I Joe,

475
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:25.079
he'd be snake Eyes. He is
the he is the coolest anti heroo out

476
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.920
there. And I gotta be honest, I understand that the Nightmare ONM Street

477
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.639
reboot didn't get a lot of a
lot of love, but his portrayal of

478
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:40.039
Freddy Krueger is absolutely terrifying. I
need to watch that. I have not

479
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.639
seen the new ones of those.
You haven't seen the new one. I

480
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.559
mean there was only one, so
I mean it got it really got you

481
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.679
know, a lot of heat for
just not being what the Nightmare movies typically

482
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.519
are. But you have to remember
Robert Uncle England had played the gut the

483
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.639
character like eight times at this point, so this is kind of like,

484
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.159
here's the new James Bond, Here's
here's the new Batman, right, And

485
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.440
they made a you know, they
made a very informed decision to take away

486
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.880
that that one liner Freddy Krueger that
we all kind of got accustomed to,

487
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.639
and they said, we're gonna take
it back to basics. He's gonna be

488
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.320
terrifying, he's not gonna be being
he's not gonna be sarcastic, and we're

489
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.679
gonna make his makeup, we're gonna
you know, they studied burn victims to

490
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.559
get the makeup right. So when
you got when you got the critics and

491
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.079
you got the audience saying, hey, the makeup is wrong, and hey

492
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.440
he's not funny, and well,
yeah, he's not supposed to be.

493
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.280
He's supposed to be terrifying. He'
supposed to be scary. So I love

494
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.480
what he did in that movie.
But okay, I gotta check it out,

495
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.039
man, I would check it out. Yeah, Young Rooney Mara before

496
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.679
she wins Zick the oscar. She's
she's in it, so definitely worth check

497
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:55.079
it out. Okay, cool,
Well, let's let's check out a word

498
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.360
from our sponsors, and when we
come back, Jason, I will talk

499
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:05.519
underrated moments and words that matter.
So it's not the favorite scene, it's

500
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.199
not in the trailer for the film, but without it, the film is

501
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:14.199
a whole lot less. Jason,
is there an underrated moment that you love

502
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:20.719
in this movie? Absolutely? As
a former baseball player and a former coach

503
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.440
and a former athlete, the underrated
scene for me is it adds a dose

504
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:35.320
of realism that is important, and
the awkwardness is spot on. And I'm

505
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:39.840
talking about the scene where Buttermaker passes
out all the jockstraps in the duck.

506
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.480
Okay, there's something I forgot to
tell you, guys. It's a league

507
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:52.079
rule. Cups and supporters gotta be
one at all time. Believe you wear

508
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.800
them. Get that one. Either
you wear them or you don't play rights

509
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.840
trapped one of these things on me. Well, she'll wear one. I

510
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:07.119
don't wear one. She doesn't wear
one, neither do I. And everybody's

511
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.519
like, I don't want to wear
this thing. This thing is so uncomfortable.

512
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.920
I'm not into it. And Buttermaker's
like, sorry, guys, sorry,

513
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.840
guys, got to it's the it's
the rules. And they're like,

514
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.280
well, what about her? Does
she have to wear one? Because you

515
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.199
know, and then Tanner's like,
this is too small anyway. You know,

516
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.920
if she ain't wearing it, I
ain't wearing it. That's right,

517
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.519
my underrated scene. Yeah, you
know, and it takes it takes you

518
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:42.039
back because at least if you're a
young boy playing baseball or sports for that

519
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.800
matter, you know, you always
remember the first time one of those is

520
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:46.599
put in front of and you're like, Okay, you gotta wear it.

521
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.960
And here's why you gotta wear it. And more importantly, here's how you

522
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.199
wear it. That's that scene has
played for laughs and and it is.

523
00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.079
It's funny because it's true. Though. I'll tell you I got one and

524
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.599
that I love. And I'm talking
about the time. I'm talking about their

525
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:13.079
first game where the Yankees absolutely destroy
them. It's like twenty six to zero.

526
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.440
When Buttermaker just says, that's it. You know, he forfeits.

527
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:24.920
I love after the game when he
climbs the tree to console a mod uh

528
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:30.760
huh, and and he shares that
that that story that that that not too

529
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.360
factual story about Hank Aaron's time in
the Sandlot League. You know as a

530
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.119
kid. You know, this kid, all he wants to do. I

531
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.239
A Mod's one of my favorite characters
as well, because all he wants to

532
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:49.320
do is be like his hero Hammer
and Hank. But he doesn't know a

533
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.800
whole lot, you know, he's
when when Buttermaker's like, hey, you

534
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:53.719
know what, what's your name?
Where you want to play? He's like,

535
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.719
hey, what what's Hank play?
Right field? Okay? I want

536
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.039
to? I want to I want
to do that. I don't want to

537
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.800
switch it like Hank Karen. He's
more concerned with switch hitting by Hank Karen.

538
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.079
He just didn't even know where he
plays or what team he's on.

539
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.079
But but I love that moment because
he clearly, you know, had a

540
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:14.199
bad game, he didn't play good, and it gives Buttermaker, who we've

541
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.599
seen at this point is like an
absolute clown. You know, he's got

542
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.360
the got the cooler full of beers. He's Walter Mathou always has a cigar

543
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:27.519
or a beer in hand throughout most
of this movie, unless he's holding him

544
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.000
bat to hit some balls. And
so this is the moment where you go,

545
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.800
Okay, you know what, butter
Maker has feelings, he has he

546
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.559
cares about these kids. And it's
a good, heartfelt moment, a good

547
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.400
you know. It lets you know, like, you know what, this

548
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.480
guy, you know, I like
him, He's he's all right, you

549
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.039
know, because yeah, I don't
know. I think that's that's a great

550
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:57.280
one. Yep, talking words that
matter in a movie known for vulgarity and

551
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:02.320
it's use of profanity, Let's Let's
car definitely talk about one or more of

552
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.039
our favorite quotes or memorable lines.
What what do you got Jason? Well,

553
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:15.039
my favorite non vulgar line in the
movie. Yeah, is when Tanner

554
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:22.159
says, God Jap bogerin Spas makes
me want a puke. Banner is the

555
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:29.760
best. Tanner just lets it fly
and he is fantastic every time he does

556
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:35.440
it. H That's definitely one that
I've got if I if I have to,

557
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:37.440
if I have to look at the
just like the for love of the

558
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.159
game, I would say I do, I do like that. Buttermaker has

559
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.519
that one where he says, all
I know is when we win a game,

560
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.960
it's a team win. When we
lose a game, it's a team

561
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.320
loss. So yeah, that's huge, that's a that's a huge one.

562
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.400
I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta believe that was in a coach Colewn's

563
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.840
playbook. Yeah, definitely. We're
not gonna blame this on Ahmad for drop

564
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.559
in the ball. Yeah, it
was in the game. You know,

565
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:08.400
you can't you can't. Let's talk
prequel, sequel, remake. So Jason,

566
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:13.800
if you took this movie and you
wanted to, you wanted to do

567
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.159
something with it, you know what
do you got? Because because we've had

568
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.840
sequels, We've had a two thousand
and five remake with Billy Bob Thornton and

569
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.360
do you know who else was in
that movie that remake? No, I

570
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:36.960
don't, none other than our special
correspondent Jenna Cozo. What Yes, Jenna,

571
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:43.320
Jenna actually was in the Bad News
Bears remake had had one had one

572
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.480
scene with Billy Bob and the and
the kids, and you really put that

573
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.960
you watch the movie, she's right
there. Yep. That is cool.

574
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:52.760
Yeah, I won't tell you.
I won't tell you which scene you have

575
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.400
to you have the next time you
watch. You have to look for it.

576
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.960
But yeah, fun fun stuff.
But I digress. We even had

577
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.199
a short lived TV series. So
what's uh, what's your what's your thought

578
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.679
here? What do you want?
This is tricky. It's tricky because so

579
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:14.000
the sequels that we've seen include The
Bad News Bears Go to Japan, which

580
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:19.360
Jackiearrol Hailey called the worst movie ever. Yep. Okay, so sequels have

581
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:23.559
been done, not all that great. M can't do a prequel because the

582
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:29.480
kids are ten years old. Okay, mhm, We've already seen a remake

583
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.880
with Billip Thornton. But here's what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go back.

584
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.280
I'm gonna get into DeLorean, I'm
gonna go back in time. Yeah,

585
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:44.000
and I'm gonna remake this in like
nineteen eighty four. Okay, so

586
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.400
you're talking an eighty four remake,
yes, all right, Well I know,

587
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.159
I know you just got Deaf Dave's
attention. So I'm assuming you've got

588
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.559
a cast for us, and if
I have for you, I lay it

589
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.480
all through. I got a cast
for you, okay, all right,

590
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:05.800
So here's what I got. I
got for Catcher. For Engelberg. Mh,

591
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:12.239
I've got none other than Jeff Cohen, okay, perfect chunk from the

592
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:19.360
Conies, yep, right, okay. Uh. For Toby the Kid,

593
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:24.719
the city councilman's son, yep,
I'm putting Sean Aston in that role,

594
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.480
okay, okay, so yeah,
he's good, he kind of talks whatever.

595
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.079
For the role of Ahmad, I've
got Jelil White. Interesting was he

596
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.320
that's that's age appropriate then? Right? Yes, that's okay, right,

597
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.280
Yeah. I was thinking like,
was it was family matters? Was that

598
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.920
nineties or was that I guess it
was early early nineties, wasn't it.

599
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.000
You may have to bend the time
a little bit on this, okay,

600
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.119
okay. Uh, here's another just
kind of key player, you know,

601
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:02.599
just extra outfielder. I want key
we Kwan just somewhere in the field.

602
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.119
Okay, okay, short round out
there, Roman, I love the field.

603
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:15.000
For Timmy Lupas, I've got Lucas
Hass. That is spot on perfect

604
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:21.800
casting. Okay, Lucas Hoss is
Timmy Lupas. Thank you. I thought

605
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.840
I was proud of that one.
Okay, here you go. Here's here's

606
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:29.199
my big hitters. Okay. So
for Keilly Leak, right, I have

607
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:35.840
Noah Hathaway. Okay, all right, he is a tray you in Never

608
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.800
a New Story. Good could call? Yeah, okay, love it looks

609
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.480
like, you know, long hair, kind of wrong side of the tracks.

610
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.880
Definitely grew up to kind of be
wrong side of the tracks looking right.

611
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.320
Yeah, okay, and a child
child badass like I you know,

612
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.639
I believe how tough he is in
the Never Never New Story. Okay.

613
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:59.320
For Ogilvy, I've got Andrew Casise. Okay, this is a bit of

614
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:05.280
a stretch. He plays worms are
in Revenge of the Nerds. Oh wow,

615
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:10.360
Okay, yeah, okay, brilliant, brilliant. He has the look.

616
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:17.800
Yeah, probably has the same prescription
glasses for Amanda. Yeah, I

617
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:28.119
have Sleigh Moonfry. Oh perfect you
Punky Brewster throwing, throwing on throwing on

618
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:32.159
the mound. Absolutely okay. And
then for butter Maker, who you got

619
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:40.599
her Russell Kurt Russell in nineteen eighty
four playing butter Maker. Yes, and

620
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:46.239
and you know when you think about
Russell's time playing minor league ball, that's

621
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:52.280
perfect casting the dudes baseball player.
He always looks like he's got a beer

622
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:57.760
within arm's reach anyway, so he's
he's kind of like doing like a Reno

623
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.280
high tower, you know, best
best of time times. Look, I

624
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.400
could see it, I could.
I could totally see that. I love

625
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.639
it. I like it all right, Okay, there you go. Oh

626
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.400
shoot, I forgot to give you
a Tanner. Oh yeah, wait wait

627
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.119
wait, you gotta have Tanner.
I gotta have Tanner. Okay, here

628
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:15.960
it is. You gotta bend you
gotta bend the years for me just a

629
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.639
little bit. Okay, okay,
So since we're doing this in what eighty

630
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:24.880
four, eighty five, eighty four, okay, I am putting for Tanner.

631
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:35.639
M hm, Henry Thomas, I'm
thinking the moment in ET when he

632
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:40.599
yells Penis breath. Yeah, okay, yeah, that it works, I

633
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.840
mean eighty two yeah, he's a
little too old, but I think I

634
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.320
think he could play he could play
young. I like the conviction of that

635
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.119
statement in that movie, So I
like it. Yeah, I I like

636
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.960
the the nineteen eighty four remake that
you are posing that is. That's that's

637
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:07.079
good. I like it. Thank
you. Lucas Hoss was my was my

638
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.920
favorite pick of that bunch. Lucas
Hoss was was the ace in the hole

639
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.159
right there? You You won me
over? What that one? That one?

640
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.239
All right? So I got I
got two options for you. Okay,

641
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.000
okay, what you got? You
said, Hey, we can't do

642
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.960
a prequel because you know they're all
ten years old. But how about this.

643
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:39.119
I'm gonna pitch you the prequel Bad
News butter Maker, a baseball comedy

644
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:45.960
about his time in the miners starring
Miles Teller. All right, there we

645
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:52.079
go. That's these kids are transfixed
by his stories, you know, his

646
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.719
baseball stories. Yeah, and he's
always talking about his time in the miners

647
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.400
and yeah, you know when you're
when you when you talk minor league baseball,

648
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:06.239
Bull Durham is that's the top of
the mountain right there. It's not

649
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:07.400
gonna get better than that. But
it doesn't mean, we can't have more

650
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:13.079
minor league baseball movies, so bad
News butter Maker more. I mean,

651
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.440
that's a million dollar title right there. Yeah, you know, give me,

652
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.039
give me some clueless studio execs.
I sell that one just on the

653
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:27.079
title alone. Yeah, however,
I got another option for you. How

654
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.000
about And I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna do the Hollywood thing that I

655
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:37.000
don't like, but it's gonna have
to work. Bad News Bears, Okay,

656
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:38.880
we're gonna keep. We're gonna just
keep the title. Only this time

657
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:46.320
it's all about a past their prime
Bears team reuniting to win the softball league.

658
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.639
And you're I'm pulling Jackie o'hila back. Yeah, that would be fun,

659
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:59.800
like guys our age getting out there
one one one final season and you

660
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:01.840
know, competing against all the younger
the younger kids, the better kids.

661
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:07.480
But then they they end up putting
their softball league. Hey, the world

662
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:14.239
needs the first great men's softball movie. It hasn't happened, right right?

663
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.800
Why not? And why not?
How much fun we have at the softball

664
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.920
field. I all the years I
played, I had a blast. Yeah,

665
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:28.400
you know we my my tea.
Yeah, I miss I miss it.

666
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.760
I miss going down to the field, you know, getting your getting

667
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:36.360
your beer, getting your back bag
out, having a having having a blast.

668
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.679
It was awesome. I loved it. Man too well, Jason.

669
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.280
I don't know about you, but
I'm ready to hit the local pizza hut.

670
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.719
So let's wrap. Let's wrap this
one up. Roger Ebert gave this

671
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:54.599
three stars, saying it's quote an
unblinking, scathing look at competition in American

672
00:50:54.719 --> 00:51:00.880
society. Jean Siskel gave it two
and a half stars, complaining about the

673
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:07.440
kids foul mouth dialogue, saying it
was quote overdone. So what do you

674
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.920
give this film out of a possible
for four stars? I give this one

675
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.960
three and a half stars. Oh, okay, I love it. I

676
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.079
love it, And the foul mouth
stuff doesn't bother me at all. Okay,

677
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:29.559
Yeah, and I really love this. There's no romantic interest, there's

678
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:34.000
no parental breakoff. It's all about
the kids, and all the drama is

679
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.639
on the field and all that.
The only thing I'm a little bit uncomfortable

680
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:47.000
with is the kids celebrating with alcohol
at the end of the championship game.

681
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.679
So wait, you're you're saying when
when your sons when they when they won

682
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.519
the Little League championship, you weren't
cracking open beers for all the all.

683
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.320
I did not pass out beers to
my son's team, the Cobras. Yeah.

684
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:09.079
So uh. On that note,
Jackie Earl Hiley once revealed that it

685
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:14.320
was ginger ale in the beer bottles, that they're well in that gaze.

686
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:21.199
It's great. All right. Uh
look, I'm gonna agree with Ebert's three

687
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:27.920
stars, and I will concede.
I will slightly concede that Jean is right

688
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.320
about the kids profanity. And I'm
not saying like the profanity profanity. I'm

689
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:37.000
saying I get to, you know, if you've got if you've got one

690
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:44.039
kid using racial slurs and it's it's
played for laughs once. Okay, you

691
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.159
know we wouldn't get that nowadays,
but it was funny for its time.

692
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.280
But it happens. I think it
happens like two or three times, and

693
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.639
it's a little overdone. Like I
would I would have rather Herd Tanner,

694
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.760
you know, just like, give
this kid a paintbrush and let's see what

695
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.719
kind of you know, tapestry of
obstinity he can He can really paint.

696
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.400
But I always have to be the
bad stuff, but it can It could

697
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.760
be the fun bad stuff, right, the fun bad stuff like booger eating

698
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.840
spass. Right, that's that's bad
enough. Right, Well, I mean

699
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.960
that one's fun. But even even
when you know you hear him fly off

700
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:21.840
at the handle, he's he's got
some he's got some choice words that are

701
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.000
that are fun. Yeah. Uh, Jason, do you want to you

702
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:27.760
want to share what's coming up on
the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast?

703
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.920
Yeah, you bet. We're covering
the Cures album Disintegration track by track,

704
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.159
and we're comparing that to Depeche Modes
Violator. And we're not getting like an

705
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.079
exclusive final judgment here on nineteen seventy
six, are we We're gonna We're gonna

706
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.199
have to tune in and listen absolute
wait wait, okay, well I know

707
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:51.039
I will. I want to thank
you as always for for for stopping and

708
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.920
talking movies. I was excited because, you know, as you mentioned at

709
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:59.960
the beginning of this, initially you
and d both were We're like lined up

710
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.760
to do the Bad News Bears,
you know, but schedules, there's scheduling

711
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.719
conflicts. Things happened. D He
joined us for the initial episode on nineteen

712
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:14.239
seventy six when we covered the Outlaw
Josie Wales. We got you now,

713
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.920
and I'm happy to say the next
time we talk, I know it'll be

714
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.239
the both of you because we got
we got one or two others from nineteen

715
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.000
seventy six that are gonna be coming
out here before the year's over. And

716
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.719
having the Shirley you Can't be Serious
podcast Join us for especially join us for

717
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.079
those two is going to be a
fun time and a fun conversation. So

718
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.239
I can't wait, Man, I
can't wait. Thanks for having me,

719
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.360
man, I always love being here. Absolutely show it's awesome. Well,

720
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:45.079
thank you man and uh and listeners. You can let us know what you

721
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:50.719
think of the Bad News Bears at
www dot a film by podcast dot com

722
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.679
or on social media. Thanks for
lending your ears. Catch you on the

723
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:55.320
flip side.