1976 - The Enforcer

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You've been transferred to personnel. Personnel
that's for assholes. I was in personnel

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for ten years. Yeah, Hello
everybody, and welcome back to nineteen seventy

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six. It's the limited series from
a Film by Podcast. We are looking

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at the iconic movies from the year
nineteen seventy six. We're sharing some facts,

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talking history, our favorite underrated moments, and the memorable lines. Joining

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me today for this episode Direct from
a Film buy his personnel department, David

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Burns, personnel that is for assholes. David, I'm from personnel. Yeah,

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and I'm obviously I'm always excited when
this guy is on the mic with

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us. Jason Covin from the Shirley
You can't be serious podcasts. What's up,

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everybody? I got my forty four
magnum and my laws rocket Man,

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I'm ready to rock today. I
was gonna say, like, I appreciate,

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you know, listeners, these guys, they showed up. They've got

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their sweater vests on their their sport
coats. They are looking like San Francisco's

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finest and that's a good thing because
we are getting dirty today. Join us

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as we talk about the enforcer.
We don't give back to you sometimes not

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you. What are you protecting these
people for? You know how many they've

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killed? Sacrifices have to be made
to Oh, you can count on that.

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East is back. The dirtiest Harry
of them all, The Enforcer rate

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it all. The tagline for this
one, the dirtiest Harry of them all.

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I gotta tell you, like you
know, five movies, Clint does

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five movies, five Dirty Harry movies. This one you take, you take

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the original out of out of the
running. I think this one's my favorite.

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So I totally agree with you.
The first one is the best.

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I have a soft spot in my
heart for the one with guns and roses,

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But yeah, I think this one
is probably the second best. Yeah,

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I agree with that. Yeah,
how about you, David? So,

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my introduction to Dirty Harry was sudden
impact. I kind of watched them

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out of order. But this was
years ago, man, when I was

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young. But yeah, I would
say, obviously Dirty Harry is probably the

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best. But I would go with
you guys too. The Enforcer is probably

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my favorite after watching all of them. Jason. I want to point out

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that Dave's introduction to Dirty Harry was
the one starring Sondra Locke and he and

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he came back for more. I
know that's pretty imprecious, those ugly faces.

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Yeah, you know, with with
with all respect to to Sondra Locke,

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Sudden Impact had a really cool storyline, you know, and it had

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the greatest tagline of the nineteen eighties, without a doubt, that go ahead

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make my day. Oh yeah,
it was everywhere in nineteen eighty three.

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Callahan Callahan always this is. If
there's one thing that that the enforcer lacks,

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it's the signature catchphrase, because you
know, you know, like you

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said, go ahead make my days. Probably that might be the most iconic

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Dirty Harry line catchphrase, next to
the you know, the original do you

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feel lucky? Punk? Right?
Yeah, this one he doesn't really you

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know, he says, uh,
what is it? You can count on

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it? I think I think he
says like something like you can count on

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it, like once or twice.
Seem like to me, they were they

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were trying to make He kept saying
marvelous that's right, yeah, get it.

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Yeah, yeah. Anytime something didn't
go his way, he was like

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sarcastically, he was like marvelous.
Yeah, yeah, usually focus an officer

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more of course, but yeah,
we'll get to her. Uh so this

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film, you know, we've got
two popular Dirty Harry movies at this point.

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Now the we're doing Moving Targets,
which is changed to Dirty Harry three,

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and then ultimately Clint changes it to
the Enforcer. And I think if

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memory serves, he I know,
he got sued at one point from like

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a writer or another filmmaker who said
that they he stole the Enforcer from from

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from him, and then Clint's like, no, it's a it's a Bogart

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movie called, you know, called
The Enforcer, and that's where I got

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it from. And that's a Warner
Brothers movie. So interesting, you know,

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Okay, Court, you know,
as memory serves, they you know,

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judged through it out and said,
no, you're not seeing this guy

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was into some film students who came
up with this idea for this script.

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But then they they changed it obviously
to mold into this movie. Isn't that

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where this came from? Or so
there's like three two scripts that become one.

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Initially there's two film students, Dave, You're right, there's two film

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students. They are captivated by the
Dirty Hair character. They write their own

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script, which introduces like the you
know, like the terrorist organization the I

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forget what they're calling this one,
the People's Revolutionary Strikeforce. Oh yeah,

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yeah, that sounds like something right
out of G I Joe. Yeah yeah,

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so yeah, they they do that, and I know that their whole

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thing was they took inspiration from the
Patty Hurst situation, you know, where

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she's kidnapped and then joins the Gorilla
Army or whatever. You got to give

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these guys credit because they're unknowns.
Right. They show up at if you

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know, I think if I'm remembering
it right, they showed up at Clint's

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restaurant. Basically they just wait wait
him out, like they were like,

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you know, he's got to show
up sometime, and they give it to

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one of his h his producing partners
or something like that. They you know,

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He's like, I'll let him have
it. Amazingly enough, this guy

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did deliver it, and Clint's like, I like the idea, but this

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needs a whole lot of work.
And then meanwhile, it's the screenwriter for

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In the Heat of the Night,
the guy that won the Academy Award.

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He writes a script for Warner Brothers, and this introduces the female partner aspect.

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But it's it's really light on action, right. So Clint looks at

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that one and then he tells this. Clint Eastwood tells an Academy Award winning

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writer like, hey, you know, or keep your female partner, dump

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the rest, and then rewrite this
script from these film school guys. And

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that's where you get the Enforcer.
That's cool, great story man. I've

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got some tidbits for you on the
Dirty Harry character. I don't know when

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you want me to bring them,
but I'll tell you what. Let's let's

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get let's talk a little bit about
it before we get into this movie and

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the cast, Let's talk a little
bit about the history. So, yeah,

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break it down for us, Jason, give us a little dirty,

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dirty hairy history lesson. Okay,
So before I start, interestingly enough,

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I don't know how to set this
upright, But what does Dirty Harry and

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John McClain have in common? Well, detective boat well detectives, both detective

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detectives, disdain for authority. Okay, I know you got an answer.

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Yeah here it is. Dirty Harry
and John McClain were both originally supposed to

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be played by Frank Sinatra. What
yes, Okay, so I know Sinatra

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was gonna be John McLain from you
know, based off the novel. But

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right, how did do you have
any background on how that how that was

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coming together? So here's what I
know about the Dirty Harry movie. So

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this is pre The Enforcer, Okay, so this is way back before nineteen

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seventy one, so sixties okay,
yeah, okay. This is who they

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offered the role of Dirty Harry too, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, Robert

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Mitchum, Steve McQueen, Bert Lancaster, George C. Scott, Paul Newman,

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and Marlon Brando. That is a
murderer's row of talent. And truthfully,

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I would say maybe half of them
are qualified to play Callahan. So

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here's the deal. They Morten Brothers
buys the script, a script called Dead

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Right. They bring Frank Sinatra,
they hire him to play Dirty Harry,

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and they bring in Irving Kirshner to
direct. Irving Kirshner, who directs The

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Empires strikes back, ye right,
And so so John Millius comes in to

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write the script. He brings in
the element of the lone wolf Cup who's

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just out for justice, and Frank
Sinatra doesn't like the way it's going,

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so he bails, and when he
bails, there goes Irving Kershner and it

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bounces around for a little bit until
they land Clint Eastwood. So I just

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thought that was fascinating. I love
that. Now, before I know,

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you got a little bit more for
us. But before we do that,

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thoughts on who would have who would
have made a good a good Harry out

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out of out of the list you
just gave us whol who would be your

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pick? Jason, if you're if
you're sitting at Warner Brother Studio and you

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gotta make the choice, I'm going
Steve McQueen. He had the cool factor.

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Yea, some of these guys were
past their prime. Of course,

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Clinton runs it runs at about two
and a half miles per hour throughout this

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entire movie. But but I like
the Steve McQueen, tough guy. Mm

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hmm. I think I think McQueen
was probably gonna be the way to go.

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Although this is this is after bullet
so or is it it's after bullet?

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Yeah? Does it? If?
If? If in the alternate you

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know, we love going to writ
movies at the alternate UH universe video store,

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But in that in that universe,
UH is McQueen's role as a Frank

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Bullet is it Is it diminished if
he's dirty Harry? Maybe maybe, I

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don't know. So it's interesting he
rejected this script. He didn't want to

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taint what he had done with Bullet. Oh, and he called this script

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too right wing for him. And
as we know, Clint Eastwood's very republican.

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Yes, you know, I had
had a coach in high school who

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believed in the electric couch, right, so not just the electric chair.

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Let's let's hook three people up at
the same time, right, And Clint

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seems like that type of guy.
Right, Yeah, you're committing crime in

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my city. I'm gonna blow you
away. I love it. He's perfect

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for him, Yeah, ultimately he
is. You know, he's the number

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one choice out of that No,
it's I just don't see anybody else besides

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this in this role in Clint Easwood. Yeah, I'm either guys. I

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might have a thought on that later. So okay, So here's the thing

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I got for you. On The
Enforcer. It's directed by a guy named

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James Fargo, and he goes on
to direct Clint Eastwood in every which way

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but loose, which is of course
Clint and Clyde. You know the rangutank.

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Oh yeah, you guys cover that
on the Shirley podcast as we did.

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We did that was a lot of
fun. We did every which way

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but lose versus any which way you
can. Yeah. And James Fargo had

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been a production manager on Jaws,
and to me this seems like one of

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those things where everything that Jaw and
like anybody who had been associated with Jaws

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could just get a job after nineteen
seventy five. Yeah, Now, then

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get this. Clint's stuntman for the
Enforcer. Guy's name is Buddy Van Horn.

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Do you guys know this? I
know the name, but I don't

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know where you're going. Yeah,
go for it. So he had been

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with Clint Eastwood, done a lot
of movies with Clint. He's in the

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Stuntman Hall of Fame. He actually
goes on to direct Clint in any which

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way you can. That's where it
is. That's where I knew the name

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you again from your episode. Yeah, so I got something on Fargo for

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you. Okay, you might know
that, you might know this, but

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uh, when we started the nineteen
seventy six series, we opened, we

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did we did a Clint Eastwood movie. We did the Outlaw Josie Wales with

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your good buddy Dee Graves Jess and
we talked about what's known as like the

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Clint Eastwood rule, Right, Clint
famously fired the director of Outlaw Josie Wales

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and then kind of took over the
production. And you can't do that anymore,

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you know, And you can't do
that because of Clint east Wood,

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Like you know, uh, you
got you gotta remember, Josie Wales comes

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out in the summer. The Enforcer
is coming out in the winter. So

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Clint was originally going to direct this
movie, but after all the issues that

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he had on Outlaw Josie Wales,
he did not have the time to prep

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and do you know, do his
scouting and all that stuff. So he

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had no choice but to lean on
his assistant director, James Fargo, who

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he knew he had worked with before, he knew he was comfortable with.

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And these guys famously got along.
So you know, I'm sure Clint was

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doing a little bit of a you
know, armchair quarterbacking on this one as

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well. But yeah, you know, if your buddy's directing it, you

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know you're going to listen to him, especially if your buddy's name is Clint

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Eastoods. James Fargo also directed some
episodes of a TV series. Some people

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may not be aware of it,
and I'm sure you guys are, and

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that is Tales of the Golden Monkey. Do you guys remember that? Yes,

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he did that, Yeah, he
sure did. Raiders are the Lost

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Dark TV show, right, exactly, yeah, exactly, yep, you

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had the dog. Oh yeah,
wow, good one. Yeah. So

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I know this was the I know
the enforcement was supposed to be the final

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installment in the Dirty Harry franchise.
You know some couple of characters that we've

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seen the first two movies, you
know, they it's the final time we're

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going to see him, you know, his partner, Di Giorgio. He

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gets killed in the line of duty. But it's not the last Dirty Harry

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movie obviously. You know. This
is Warner Brothers. This is Clint.

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You know he kinda he kind of
quietly runs things over there. Yeah,

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and they make like a they privately
make an agreement like, hey, just

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keep pumping these out and you can
go on to make whatever you want.

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So this is where Clint says,
all right, I'll do one for you,

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and then I'll do one for me, and this is where he starts.

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You know, when we start seeing
like Clint each would not play a

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cowboy and not play a cop.
This, you know we have we have

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the Enforcer to thank for that because
you know it obviously is wildly popular and

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you know, Warner Brothers like we
got to have more. So, h

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that's great, man, that's cool. I've got a little tidbit for you

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on if we want to talk cast. I don't know when you want to

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do that, but I've got some
cool tidbits for you on that all right,

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before we get Before we do cast, I do want to point out

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something because I spotted this. I
think maybe the I don't know third fourth

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time I ever watched this movie.
Now, Jason, you might not have

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noticed this, but Dave, this
is this is kind of significant for Dave

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and I. Dave and I obviously
we are based in Cincinnati, Ohio.

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The mayor in the movie. In
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Giants game. He's at Candlestick Park, right, and then that's where he

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gets kidnapped from. So here's something
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baseball fans, for our Cincinnati Reds
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Francisco Giants play the Cincinnati Reds.
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because this wasn't like a he's there. It's an actual ball game if

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you watch the movie. So this
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nineteen seventy six. I want to
point out this is our this day,

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this is our World Series champion Reds, you know, because they're world champions

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from seventy five. They're on a
hot streak in seventy six, and you

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see the batter that strikes out.
This breaks my heart because it's one of

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my heroes. But Pete Rose is
the batter that strikes out. You got,

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you got Kim Griffy on deck,
and I just love the fact that,

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you know, let's do a ball
game. It's a summer day and

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uh oh, the Reds are in
town. So that's cool. I was

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really hoping you were going to say
Oklahoma native Johnny Bench uh did something on

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the field there. Yeah, yeah, he I'm sure he was there that

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day, but he does not make
the final cutout the enforcer. But it's

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funny you mentioned that. I didn't
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like when I was watching the scene, I was like, with the red

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helmets, I was like, oh, that looks like the Reds. It

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didn't even dawn on me. Yeah, it was, you know, I

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remember. I want to say it
was I think the first time. I

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gotta give credit to my dad.
Actually, I think the first time I

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noticed it. He points out,
you know, oh yeah, look because

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Pete Rose has that very you know, unique batting stance. You know.

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Then you know, Dave, you
you know, and I know it.

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And that's like, oh wait.
It was my dad who was like,

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yeah, that's Pete right there.
It's awesome, what you know. Of

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course that was a time like it's
it's on TBS, we can't like necessarily

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rewind it. But you know,
after that, I was like, yep,

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that's right. So that's cool.
I love that about this movie.

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Jason. You you mentioned the cast, like the let's get into this cast

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a little bit. Okay. So
obviously we have superstar Clint Eastwood. He's

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been in a million things. We
we know him as Dirty Harry and of

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course the Man with No Name and
I a million other things. He goes

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on to become a very successful director
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of things I noticed, because we
covered every which way but loose in any

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which way you can this summer,
I recognize a few familiar faces in the

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terrorist group. We're actually in any
which way you can. Mhm. Okay,

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who you got? So the guy
who he kills with the laws rocket

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at the very end on Alcatraz.
Oh, Bobby Maxwell, the main hell

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not the main guy right before he
kills Bobby Maxwell, last guy that he

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takes the rocket from. Yeah,
okay, that's the the bare knuckle brawler

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that he fights at the very beginning
of any which way you can, alright.

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And then the guy who is kind
of the first henchman to Bobby.

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Yeah, he's the guy who proposes
the bet for in any which way you

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can to clint Ey Swid. So
clearly Clint is having hiring decisions because these

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guys show up in later movies.
Well, yeah, it's funny you mentioned

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that one, Jason, because Dave
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in Detroit. We got to meet
meet and greed a couple legendary actors and

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actresses, and one of them happened
to be mister Donald Gibb, who you

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probably are well aware of as an
Ogre from Revenge of the Nerves. He's

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Jackson from blood Sport. He also
happened to be in one of the Henchmen

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in Any which Way you can.
Yep, really uncredited. I had a

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great conversation with him. We talked
about some of his earlier roles and I

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got more on that next week on
a film buy. But just an outstanding

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guy, fun to talk with.
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was his actually nineteen eighty that's his
his film debut, even though he's he's

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uncredited in it. Wow, that's
great, man. Yeah, I got

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a couple other names for you,
just henchman wise. Okay, So we

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have Joscelyn Jones who plays kind of
the She's Mickey. She's kind of the

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sexy hitchhiker. Yeah, and she's
one of those where you know, she

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sticks her leg out to get some
attention. But when it scrolls up,

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I was like, whoa, yeah, yeah, I know what I had

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to say. I'm laughing because I
had the exact same reaction the last time

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I watched this, you know,
yeah apparently Yeah. And then of course

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you've got this guy named de Van
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Yeah, and he's he just kind
of was just a guy. I mean,

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he'd been in The Omega Man and
he'd done some TV, but nothing

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really prominent from him. He actually
was in Magnum Force uncredited. Okay,

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if you remember, and I don't
know how long ago you watched Magnum Force,

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but the naked guy that was doing
cocaine that the officer shoots, Yeah,

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same guy. And if yeah,
if I've got if I've got one,

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if I've got one complaint about the
Dirty Harry franchise, it's that Clint

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just keeps bringing back the same people, but he keeps putting them in different

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roles. And I know we're gonna
talk about one of those guys here in

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a second. Yeah, I mean, like the guy. I know he's

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playing a psychopath, but he looks
like an absolute psychopath. Mm hmm.

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Like his like talk about the thousand
yards stare. This guy just owns it,

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right, those pale blue eyes.
Man, he's scary, looks like

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a kook. Yeah. You know
his great moment in this movie when MICKI

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get shot and Clint's buddy from any
which way you can is like, no,

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she's fine, I'm gonna get you
out of here. We're gonna save

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you. And he comes out.
He's like, no, she's dead.

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She's dead, and he's like,
she's not dead, and then he goes

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kamoon, kamoon, kamoom, Yeah, like now she's dead. I was

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like, good, now, okay, that's kind of his signature moment for

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me. That is definitely that guy's
signature moment. What are the most brutal

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moments in a film? Like?
I mean, you want to be a

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memorable bad guy that you you?
I think you owned it there. Okay,

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I got something for you on Time
Daily before you get to our man

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Albert Popwell, can I say,
can I? Can I give you one

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more of your henchman? Yeah?
Yeah, I can't believe you didn't mention

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this one. And Dave, I
don't know where you're at, but hanging

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out in the back of the van. I didn't even need to look this

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up. As soon as I saw
the guy's face, I knew exactly who

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he was. You know, he's
a hinchman. I don't know what his

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what his name was, I don't
remember his name, but Dick Durrock is

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one of the guys in the van
when they go to steal all the weapons

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where where Mickey gets shot. Yeah, big Duroc who played the swamp thing

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you know next to Yeah, dude, his face is unmistakable. Yeah.

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I was like, whoa, that's
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Okay, So let's talk about Tyn
Daily for a second. She plays

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Kate Moore, who's like thrown in
with Clint and she's got to keep up

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and he's like this, this girl's
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Marvelous. So she was in Cagney
and Lacey. We probably most people

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who are in our wheelhouse know her
as Marybeth Lacey from the TV show Cagney

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Cagney Lacey. Her dad is James
Daily. Now, he's a famous movie

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actor. He's been in a bunch
of TV stuff. He played Flint in

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the original Star Trek for you Star
Trek Guys. Oh hey, okay,

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one episode. I don't know.
I don't know that and that's for you

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guys, you know, but he
had been in a bunch of shows.

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So anyway, he's a famous television
actor from like the fifties and sixties.

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Okay, I didn't know her family
was in the business Okay, So get

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this. So her dad been in
a bunch of stuff from fifties and sixties.

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He's a famous actor. Of course, Tyne Daily has was in Cagney

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Lays, which ran for six or
seven seasons. So she's a famous television

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actor. Her brother is Tim Daily, who played Joe Hackett on Wings.

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Yes, and so when you're talking
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I think they set some sort of
record where dad had been in a television

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series that ran over six seasons,
daughter in a television series that had run

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over six seasons, and son had
been in a television show that ran over

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six seasons. So unbelievable. I
never knew that. I never connected her

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to Tim Daily because obviously loved him
on Wings, and more so he's Dave

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backed me up here. Might be
one of the better voice actors to uh

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to do to do the Superman role
animated movies. Absolutely, Yeah, you

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mentioned you mentioned Cagney and Lacey.
I know this movie is directly responsible for

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her getting that role. If I'm
not mistaken, I would assume. So

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yeah, she says, yeah,
she she turns this script. I think

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about this. This is this is
pre Cagy and Lacy and I don't have

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her phomography in front of you.
But she turns this script down three times

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before she agrees to do this movie. She didn't like the romantic attachment between

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her and Clint, which maybe that
wasn't an earlier draft, because I correct

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me if I'm wrong, guys,
but I see zero romantic you know,

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I don't see that kind of chemistry
between her and Callahan in the Movie's the

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movie. We got just just the
joking around about going to get a beer,

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but other than that, I don't
see anything romantic wise. Yeah,

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they have they have one playful,
banter type moment, but other than that,

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I'd never picked up on a budding
relationship between the two of them.

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So yeah, well, so the
story that I read was that she was

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like, well, you need to
cut this out. This is this doesn't

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make any sense, okay, and
Clint's like, you know what, You're

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right, and so they cut it. Oh okay, Well there you go.

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I know, and I also know
she really wasn't that happy with her

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character, like how she was getting
treated in the movie, and they actually

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let her take a look at the
drafts and she got to kind of help

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develop the role so I, you
know, this is this. I think

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this is pretty impressive for Time Daily, especially in this era of Hollywood.

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And you know, cause you even
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there's a lot of misogyny, there's
a lot of you know, your place

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is in the kitchen type of vibe
happening, and you know that's how it

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was going on, That's how that's
how life was. You know, you

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could say it's that you know,
women are still like professional women are still

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dealing with that kind of crap.
So yeah, and the fact that she's

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running all over San Francisco wearing a
skirt and like, you know, I

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shouldn't you have a skirt? You
know, she's got that that knee length

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dress and the high heels and you
know, Jason, you said it.

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You know, Eastwood's like running two
miles an hour. She is booking it,

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you know. So yeah, I
find it interesting. So the mayor

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does this big thing about how she's
like the first female detective. You know,

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yeah, it kind of props her
up, but she's she's she's still

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kind of a rookie and she's doing
dumb things. I don't want to step

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up my underrated moment, but I'll
talk about that here in a second.

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But you know, she's carrying around
that briefcase. It's got a bomb in

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it the whole time, and she's
too dumb to look inside to see what

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it is. And then you know, once she figures it out, she's

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in the bathroom, Puchan And so
they do some things that kind of undermine

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her confidence as a detective. Well
they do, and but at the same

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time, I think they do that
just to show that she doesn't know anything

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yet. She's she's completely green.
And I can talk about this moment because

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and hopefully it's not it's not the
underrated moment that you guys are choosing.

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But when he gets busted back to
personnel where David Burns works, you know,

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they're interviewing people to be a you
know, we need a new inspector

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and she comes in and he just
lights her up, right, and they're

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like, Callahan, you're out of
line, and but she kind of gives

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it back to him. You know, she stands her ground and you know,

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she cites the code like you know, and that and that moment he

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gets impressed. Yeah, and he's
like, okay, well maybe, but

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then obviously, you know, Hey, your new partner. Meet you're new

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a partner because his captain is just
a thorn in his side the whole movie

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and wants to undermine him. But
I don't know, I love. If

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there's one thing I really love about
this movie, it's the growth that the

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character of Kate Moore Tyan Daly's character. I love the growth that she has.

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You know, I totally agree.
She goes from like irritant. You

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know, Clint's got to carry her
basically too. She's reliable, He respects

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her, he trusts her. You
know, she's she rescues the mayor.

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I mean she's the one that goes
and rescues the mayor. Yeah, and

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so she adds you know, she
really does add to this story and does

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some things that Clint doesn't do.
And of course when she gets it in

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the end, he's really upset by. You know, Harry Callahan is known

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for catchphrases, big guns, and
the fact that if you're his, if

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you're assigned to be his partner,
you're gonna end up in the hospital or

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the morgue, right right. And
you're thinking, this is the third movie.

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You know what, he's got a
female partner. She's she's holding her

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own it's time for a change.
But yeah, she makes that ultimate sacrifice

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at the end, and he is
he's, uh, you know, he's

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hurting for it. Yeah. I
like the fact. I like the fact

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that when this did come out,
it was getting a lot of raves,

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not for Clint, but for Time
Daily. Everyone's talking about how she is

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like the future of a female action
and you know, how brave oft to

405
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.519
step aside and let, you know, let her have that. I was

406
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:11.519
like, it's scarily reminiscent of another
iconic hero that we all know and love.

407
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.680
But we won't get into that.
We're not going there. Started I

408
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.480
think you know what we're I'm talking
about. Can we talk about one more

409
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.000
Can we talk about one more person? Just because we we kind of hinted

410
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.160
at him. We got to talk
about Albert Popwell, who plays Mustafa.

411
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.240
Yes, okay, so I taught
you know, I kind of mentioned it.

412
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.599
Clint. Whether he's just he's loving
the cast he's with, or he's

413
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:45.000
maybe a little lazy, he always
brings people back, right right. Five

414
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.680
Dirty Harry movies. Clint Eastwood obviously
is in five of them. Runner up

415
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:56.640
Albert Popwell is in four out of
five playing four different people. What is

416
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.920
going on with that? Yeah?
I mean one of them he killed,

417
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:07.079
you know. Yeah, so he's
the bank robber in Dirty Harry, and

418
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.920
I always remember that because that's the
whole you know, did he fire five

419
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.839
shots? Yeah? Do you feel
lucky? And then he's that close that

420
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.000
tight shot of Popula where he's like, I gotta know, I gotta know,

421
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.519
and you know, and he just
he points and you know, pulls

422
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.319
the trigger and he would you know
what a great great scene. Yeah,

423
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.200
he's uh. And then he's a
pimp and magnum Force in the sequel,

424
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:36.559
which I'm pretty sure if I remember, Clinton killed him. And then a

425
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.880
sudden impact, uh, where Dave's
watching Sondra Locke, he was a horse

426
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.599
yeah, like king or horse king
or something like that. Horse king.

427
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.839
Yeah, clearly, Yeah, it's
cool. Clearly Mustafa his is his best

428
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.920
performance. Right, I love I
love Mustafa you know in this movie.

429
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.319
Yeah, I think that's really neat
that Clint brings his friends. We talked

430
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.039
about this. When he gets around
guys that he likes, he surrounds himself

431
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.559
with his friends and you know,
lovers, as we see in Sondra Luck.

432
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.799
So let's take a quick break,
and when we return, we will

433
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:25.079
talk about underrated moments and words that
matter. We are back talking underrated moments

434
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.599
and words that matter. I got
David Burns with me. I've got Jason

435
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.960
Colvin from the Shirley You Can't Be
Serious Podcast with us. Jason, Before

436
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.279
we talk about underrated moments, can
we take a quick minute, you know,

437
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.000
for the listeners that maybe maybe they're
tuned in for the first time,

438
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.720
can you tell us a little bit
about the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast?

439
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.880
Absolutely, we are a podcast for
the MTV generation. So we are

440
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.680
not just eighties, we're seventies.
We're eighties, we're nineties. And what

441
00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.559
we typically do is we'll match movie
up against movies. So we've done Dirty

442
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.720
Dancing compared to Saturday Night Fever,
and then we talk about those movies and

443
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.119
then we decide which is the better
one. And we do certain albums up

444
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:12.759
against albums, and so we did
Alison Chains versus Stone Temple Pilots, we

445
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.559
did Michael Jackson's Thriller versus Bad,
and so we just compare and contrast and

446
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.039
we go deep on. You know, we like to dig out those nuggets

447
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.519
that you may not know, and
so we try to be informative and fun

448
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.400
and just go deep on pop culture. I'll tell you what, because obviously

449
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.559
I love I love I love the
showy You Keep Me Serious podcast talk about

450
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.319
being informative and fun. You guys, I mean you got one of the

451
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:42.000
greatest Facebook pages, well out of
it, out of anybody, right,

452
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.799
I mean, you guys are You're
just dropping hilarious stuff multiple times a day,

453
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.039
serious, like informative stuff like you
guys are like a great you know,

454
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.920
the show You Keep Me Serious facebook
page is one of my favorites because

455
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.880
it's always in my feed and it's
always making It's always makes me laugh.

456
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:01.440
I love it. You yess buddy, I appreciate that. Thank you so

457
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:07.240
much. Well, you are welcome, and you are also welcome to share

458
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.960
an underrated moment now, Jason,
you've been with us on several of our

459
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.480
limited series. I know this is
your first time on nineteen seventy six.

460
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.559
So let me break it down for
you. We're not talking about your favorite

461
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.759
scene. We're not talking about what
you saw on the trailer or like the

462
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.599
climactic moment. We're talking about a
scene that's a little underrated, but without

463
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.480
it the film is a lot less. You got something like that, Yes,

464
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.960
I do. But before I give
that to you, Jeff, I

465
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.640
want to give you a scene in
which dirty Harry should have pulled out his

466
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.680
forty four magnum and blew a guy
away, but did not. Okay,

467
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.440
okay, So before I give you
this, So when he goes to the

468
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:53.559
autopsy of his partner and friend,
Yes, and the dude takes his skull

469
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.519
off and is starting to make jokes
about, hey, look here it Sosi

470
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.200
to Luigi's on there. Yeah.
I was like, what is the deal?

471
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:06.400
Clinton needs to blow this guy away? I couldn't believe that they would

472
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.360
be so crass in the in the
autopsy room. Yeah, And I know

473
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.119
that scene was meant to like,
hey, let's push Tyan Daily, you

474
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.199
know, let's let's really let's really
get under her skin here, because you

475
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.480
know, because Clint's doing the whole
Hey, you know, if you've ever

476
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.280
done one of these, maybe you
want to wait outside. She's like,

477
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.480
don't concern yourself with me, inspector, because she's going to prove herself.

478
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.159
And I almost feel like it's like, all right, let's let's really,

479
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.800
you know, let's really mess with
her because like you don't have to,

480
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.079
you don't have to, you know, inspect the guy's brain, you know

481
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.039
when you know, and I don't
even know why they're doing an autopsy,

482
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.440
honestly, like we know what happened
to the guy. It's his buddy.

483
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.880
I mean he was just holding his
wife's hand, you know. Yeah,

484
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.079
so just but to that yeah,
to that point though, I mean he

485
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.760
walked, you know, you know, George did Georgia is like, hey,

486
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.400
get my wife. Clint's outside talking
to talking to his captain. You

487
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.280
hear the flat line she's and he's
like, all right, let's get to

488
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.159
work. He's he's ice cold.
So so again, uh, credit the

489
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.079
time daily because when she gets killed
in the line of action at the end

490
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.159
of this movie, it clearly affects
Clint, you know, and it's got

491
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.679
one of the better fadeaway endings to
a Dirty Harry film. I think,

492
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.480
yeah, you know, all right, so here's my underrated moment. Okay,

493
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:31.000
I thought it was the one true
humorous moment in the movie. There's

494
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:37.000
several. So they go to the
uh you know, like this police area

495
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.159
where they're going to demonstrate with a
los rocket with a do oh yeah,

496
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.159
and so the the police guy's showing
him, Okay, you pull this lever

497
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:50.079
and you pull this thing down and
you use your scope here and Kate Moore

498
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:55.239
Tyne Daley's character like is looking behind
him, and right before he shoots this

499
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.480
rocket, Clinton grabs her by like
the scrap of her neck and pulls her

500
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.280
out of the way, and it's
this rocket blast that would have, you

501
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.000
know, take hit her right in
the face. Yeah, And I thought

502
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.599
that was a funny moment. It
showed that he cared about her and that

503
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.639
she was still you know, kind
of green. Yeah, a good choice

504
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:19.000
because Kate Moore doesn't have a face
if he doesn't yank her out of harm

505
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.880
a way, and you know she
doesn't you know, she doesn't know what

506
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.519
she's doing and she's trying to get
that bird's eye view. You're absolutely right,

507
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.800
that was I did. I did
chuckle when when I see that scene.

508
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.639
How about it, Dave? So
For me, it is when they

509
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:35.440
are with the mayor and they're walking
to you know, to the press,

510
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.480
to the media, and he's wanting
to give them accommodations, uh, to

511
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.880
Harry in office for more, you
know, for capturing mist Off and you

512
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.519
know, bringing down the terraffs,
but which didn't happen, and Harry confronts

513
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.719
the mayor right there, you know, basically, you know, standing up

514
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.639
saying, you know, we didn't
do that. You know, I was

515
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.000
working with Mastafa to bring down the
terrorist. You know, we're not gonna

516
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.840
take credit for this, basically,
you know, and he ends up getting

517
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.079
suspended right then and there. And
he even adds time to his suspension for

518
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.159
crying out loud, you know,
which which I thought was absolutely hysterical,

519
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.960
but not just that, it just
added so much character to Harry because you

520
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.519
know, it just proves he may
cross the line from time to time.

521
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.280
He he's he's a bad ass,
but you know what, he still cares

522
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.039
about making sure if he does the
job, he should get credit. If

523
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.559
he doesn't do the job, he
shouldn't be getting the credit. I know,

524
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.880
we're I know, we're just about
to get the words that matter.

525
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.719
And I hope I'm not blowing up
either either of your spots. But that

526
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.880
you know you talked about he you
know, he he actually provokes the captain

527
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.599
to give him more time, you
know, a bigger suspension, and then

528
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.400
we get that classic you know,
give me your badge and Clint's like,

529
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:47.760
but you know, here's a seven
pointed suppository sticking up your ass. You

530
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:54.000
know. I love that moment.
I do like the fact that for each

531
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:59.519
of us we're talking about an underrated
moment that involves Kate Moore. I'm gonna

532
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.440
go with one that I feel like
shows a lot of growth on Harry's part.

533
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.960
And uh, you know they have
that we talked about that playful banter

534
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.679
and you know, he's kind of
like, you know she you know,

535
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.960
she's talking about like, why do
you carry a forty four magnum everyone else

536
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.360
carries thirty eighth and three fifty sevens
And he's talking about how, you know,

537
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.239
he needs a lot more power.
She goes, oh, so it's

538
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.119
about penetration. And he's like,
is everything sexual and she's like, you

539
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.119
know, not always, and he's
like, let's get a beer and then

540
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:32.119
they end up getting orange juice and
they're just having like a nice, nice

541
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.719
conversation and like, in that moment, I feel like Harry has found his

542
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.119
equal because we've seen two movies where
he just is like, yeah, you're

543
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.760
not gonna make it to the end
of the week, and my partners always

544
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.000
get killed and but he cares about
her, you know, she he's looking

545
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.800
out for. But by this moment
when they're they're having that conversation drinking orange

546
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.679
juice, of all things, he's
talking to an equal and I thought that

547
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.400
was kind of cool. I like
that one. Yeah, that's a good

548
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.599
one. We'll speaking the good one. Let's let's talk words, Jason Covin.

549
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.840
Let's talk about a memorable line from
this movie. And there's several,

550
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.360
but do you have a favorite favorite
quote or a favorite line. I'm gonna

551
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.960
stay away from the big one.
I think that one's coming. But I

552
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:19.039
like the part at the beginning when
for some reason there are a bunch of

553
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.760
robbers that are holding up a liquor
store and they decided to take hot ossages,

554
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.719
right, yeah, and so,
and Clint actually goes into me with

555
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.840
him. They actually the actor kicks
him in the butt on his way out

556
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.079
the door. Yes, and that
was improvd right, Yeah, Clay didn't

557
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.360
know he was going to do that. I'm wondering if that guy ever worked

558
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:42.679
again. I didn't see him any
which way you can exactly. But he

559
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.119
goes back and the guy says,
what are you gonna do? Harry?

560
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.239
And he's like give him the car. And so that was my favorite line

561
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.519
because he's getting ready to drive the
car right through the liquor store and then

562
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.920
just pull out the cannon start blowing
people away. I missed the days to

563
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:04.400
shoot first task question later? Yeah, absolutely, all right, Uh Dave,

564
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.639
what do you got? So mine
is when Moore was in the bathroom

565
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.360
puking because she realized the uh she
was carrying around dynamite. And it's when

566
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.400
you know, the the chief is
basically telling him, hey, give you

567
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.320
know, give her a break,
you know that kind of thing. He

568
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.400
goes, Look, look she wants
to play lumberjacks. She's gonna have to

569
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.119
learn to handle her in log He
load that line. That's a great one.

570
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.639
Uh you know you guys have you
guys just dropped a couple of awesome

571
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.360
ones. One that always makes me
laugh because I'm like, man talking about

572
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:40.840
sticking it to this guy again.
Harry has no reservations about uh mouthing off

573
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.440
to his captain. And when he's
like, yeah, I make a statement,

574
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.079
McKay, go ahead, your mouthwash. Ain't making it. Your mouthwash,

575
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.920
hain't making it. I love that
one. Man. That's good.

576
00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.039
We'll tell you what guys, let's
take one more quick break and we'll we

577
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.679
get back. We're gonna talk about
prequel, sequel, remake. David Burns,

578
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.320
you have answered this question almost as
many times as I've asked it.

579
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:15.840
I think he sounds about right.
You know. You know, we cover

580
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.280
this one. This was a fun
holdout from our our nineteen eighty six series.

581
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:23.960
Yep, let's talk prequel, seql, remake. So if you're heading

582
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:31.079
into Warner Brothers studios, Dave to
pitch something for Dirty Harry talking about the

583
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.280
Enforcer, what do you got for
him? You got to you got a

584
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:38.400
prequel, a sequel, or a
remake. I have a sequel, okay,

585
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.079
and this's gonna be a little bit
different sequel because it's going to wrap

586
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.800
up. It's gonna bring back the
entire series for a whole new generation of

587
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.199
Dirty Harry. So my idea is
Harry has the son that he never knew

588
00:41:52.239 --> 00:42:00.840
about, and he is is he
becomes a detective and learns about his you

589
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.280
know, and he basically was giving
us a chance to rediscover who Harry Callahan

590
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:12.079
is. He finds old cases that
his father had touched and about the legend

591
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.599
that Harry was when he was on
the force and all the time he's getting

592
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:23.480
tingled up in this new detective story. We discovered that Harry recently passed away.

593
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.960
So we go with this his son
to his father's house where he discovers

594
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.280
the magnum forty four and a few
other things you know, the house,

595
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.599
basically learning who his father was.
He also learns about his father being very

596
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:44.519
famous for crossing the line quite a
bit, so he makes it a point

597
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.079
of being a detective that he's not
going to cross that line like his father

598
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.039
did, so he writes it very
close. But somewhere in the film,

599
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:59.440
either his partner or someone he deeply
cares about loses their life, so he

600
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.280
has to cross that line in the
film, which really, you know,

601
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.440
makes him realize why his father did
what he did when he was on the

602
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.159
force. So and at the very
end, after you know, the story

603
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.760
gets wrapped up and everything at the
very end, or as a stinger,

604
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.360
we see his his son chasing a
criminal through some alley ways, exchanging some

605
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:27.559
gunfire into cornering him. He's wielding
his father's forty four magnum and of course

606
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.400
we're gonna hear it is here.
We hear his fine son say the famous

607
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.840
line, I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only

608
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.639
five? You got to ask yourself
one question. Do you feel lucky?

609
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:45.119
Well? Do you punk? The
son will be played by Scottiswood and it

610
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:53.880
will be titled simply Dirty Harry.
All right, well, Jason, I

611
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.920
don't usually get to have this this
moment, so you and I let's let's

612
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.000
let's be suits for a second,
because I got I'm loving what I'm hearing,

613
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.960
and I only have one note for
him, but I want to hear

614
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.119
what your thoughts are before before I
dish. Well. I think that's a

615
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.719
great idea. In fact, Scott
Eastwood would be a perfect Dirty Harry.

616
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:20.119
He's tall, he looks like a
cowboy, he looks like his dad,

617
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.199
really looks just like his dad at
age thirty thirty five yep, and he's

618
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:30.239
the right age area. I love
it. The only thing I would say

619
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.360
to David, I'd be like,
man, that sounds great, But we

620
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:39.320
could remake it using Scott Eastwood and
call it Dirty Harry. Okay, See,

621
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:45.039
Jason, maybe maybe I've just got
Fraser Crane on the brain a lot

622
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:50.440
more lately, since we're doing the
Crane scrutiny. But Dave, I love

623
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.800
what you're doing. But I was
thinking, what if it was a famous

624
00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:01.239
cold case that Callahan never cracked?
Yep, could be and we got Scott

625
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:07.760
Eastwood. Let's let's call dad and
have dad maybe Jason kind of doing like

626
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.400
a Martin Crane thing, like going
over the case files, and maybe he's

627
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.400
kind of helping his son, you
know. So, Dave, my only

628
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:19.639
note would be like, let's let's
let's not kill Harry Callahan Senor maybe he's

629
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.320
there in a limited capacity helping with
his cold case. That would like perfect

630
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.480
too. I love it. I
absolutely love it. Jason. That is

631
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.719
a that's a tough act, tough
act to follow. What do you what

632
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.519
do you know? Well, so
I'm doubling down. I'm remaking the original

633
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.719
Dirty Harry, Okay, And I
think it's the perfect time because we know

634
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.400
about the woke politics and the craziness
of California and how crime is running rampant

635
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:51.639
right now. And so here's the
deal. We need somebody with a forty

636
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.280
four magnum to go in clean house
a little bit, and I'm recasting.

637
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.840
I've got some names for you,
but I settled on go with me.

638
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:12.920
On this Tyler Perry as Dirty Harry
taken back the Streets of San Francisco.

639
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:20.800
That's that is a very surprising choice. Yeah, and listen, I'll be

640
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.199
the first to say I am not
a fan of that all the media stuff.

641
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:30.320
I've seen him do dramatic roles and
he is an incredible actor. So

642
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.119
I'm intrigued. And you said you
got some other names, like who else?

643
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.639
Who else you cast in this Jrdy
Harry remake? Well, so I

644
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:43.239
was I was looking at like,
who could play a tough, angry,

645
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.519
you know, take control kind of
guy, and just a lot of pretty

646
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.800
boy actors right now, so there's
not a lot of guys to choose from.

647
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.880
But I looked at Gerard Butler,
I looked at Jim Caviezel, I

648
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:00.559
looked like Ildris Elba. But I
settled Tyler Perry just because I think he's

649
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:07.840
got that right mixture of humanity and
you know, focused anger. Now are

650
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.760
you keeping like the you know you're
doing a remix, so are we gonna

651
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.599
get you know, obviously, Dirty
Harry, you know, was was heavily

652
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.800
based off of the Zodiac killings,
So who did you think of? Like

653
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.360
who he's going up against Gosh,
I mean, I'll double I'll go with

654
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.199
you on this. How about let's
continue that Fraser Crane talk. How about

655
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:36.159
Kelsey Grammer as the Zodiac Killer.
That is a crazy film that you're you're

656
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.880
throwing us and it's a crazy film
and you're yeah, and we're talking modern

657
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.400
day like you're you're winning a modern
day Dirty Harry in San Francisco. Yep,

658
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.159
he is. He's angry, he's
got the sniper rival, he's picking

659
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:55.800
off people for random reasons, holding
the the whole city hostage. So he

660
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:02.400
so he's uh, who was it
David Sideshow side Shoe Bob in the substances?

661
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.480
Hey, Grammar plays a great villain. I okay, I'm with you.

662
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.679
I'm with you. Two tough acts
to follow, so I'm going to

663
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.440
keep it simple. Guys, if
you have listened to us cover Heartbreak Ridge

664
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:22.280
on nineteen eighty six, if you
listened to the Outlaw Josie Wales episode I

665
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:27.519
did with Dee Graves on this series
nineteen seventy six, you probably know where

666
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:34.760
I'm heading. I want to do
a prequel franchise, and here's the caveat.

667
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.639
It takes place after Dirty Harry,
but before the Deadpool, so kind

668
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:46.960
of like a you know, mix
it in there in Harry's Prime. And

669
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:52.800
of course Scott Eastwood is playing the
iconic role of Harry Callahan because he looks

670
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.039
just like his father, he sounds
like his father, and uh, I

671
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.480
don't have a you know, I
don't have a clever tie for you,

672
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.440
but I'm ready to green light like
three movies like give me a trilogy,

673
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.920
a prequel trilogy set you know,
in those in those in that block of

674
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:14.440
time, just more like the further
Further Adventures of Dirty Harry, you know,

675
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.519
for lack of a better better title. Take my money, Yeah,

676
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.679
take my money. I've got one
little thing. I've got one other thing

677
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.119
I'm gonna throw at you. See
what you think about this? Okay?

678
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:34.760
I think there is a spiritual cousin
to the Enforcer, and it's a movie

679
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.480
that we've all seen, we probably
all enjoy. Okay. So the plot

680
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:46.039
of the Enforcer is that this group
of crazy, this band of crazies take

681
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:55.000
the mayor holding hostage from Alcatraz.
Yeah, mid nineteen nineties, we get

682
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:04.519
crazy group of army guys holding the
entire city hostage from Alcatraz. Yeah,

683
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.440
I love your cousin the Rock the
Rock, Okay, I see it,

684
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:14.280
yep, I like that. In
addition to that, can we talk extended

685
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:20.079
family for the Enforcer? Yeah,
okay, I'd probably have to get ahold

686
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.039
of my buddy Andy Tom, who
was with me when we did Assault on

687
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:30.679
Precinct thirteen. But I kind of
feel like the paramilitary group that that Callahan's

688
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.960
up against here in San Francisco.
Maybe they're like the upper echelon of the

689
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.639
Rolling Thunder Street gang from Assault on
Precinct thirteen. Ah, they're in Los

690
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.000
Angeles, like you know, they're
like the low level guys, and these

691
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.519
guys are like the more organized guys
like I'm kind of seeing, like the

692
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:54.480
Enforcer and Precinct thirteen. Maybe there's
some loose connections there as well, both

693
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.320
out in seventy six. So,
M that's cool. That's fun, right,

694
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:07.719
Yeah, absolutely it is. Let's
wrap this up, Dave. Out

695
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.039
of four possible stars, what do
you what do you? Uh? What

696
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:19.400
are you given the Enforcer? I'm
gonna give the Enforcer a three point wow.

697
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.719
What you did there? I see
exactly what you did there? Okay,

698
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:30.239
Okay, I can't top that jaw. How about you? Well,

699
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.679
it's hard to follow that up.
But I'm gonna give this one a two

700
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:40.400
point five. Wow, two five. I just didn't really think the bad

701
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.119
guys were very effective in this.
I like Clint, I like Kate,

702
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:52.280
needed a stronger bad guy. That's
fair. Okay, yeah, I'll give

703
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.159
you that. Well, I'm uh, you know again, I can't top

704
00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.480
what Dave just did there. I'm
gonna give a solid three, solid three.

705
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:05.039
It's you know. Coincidentally, it's
the third film in the franchise,

706
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.719
and outside of Dirty Harriets, it's
definitely my favorite one. Yeah, so

707
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:13.199
yep, yep. Well, Jason, I do want to thank you.

708
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:19.159
It's always a pleasure chatting with you. Whether it's whether it's about Fraser Crane

709
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.519
on on Mondays on the Crane Scrutiny
podcast, or it's on eighty six or

710
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.880
sometimes when I'm over there on the
Shirley podcast. It's always a blast when

711
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.599
when you're with us, Man,
So I appreciate it. Man, thanks

712
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.480
for having me. And as always, yes, our Fraser Crane podcast.

713
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.599
If you like the New Fraser or
the old Fraser, come check us out

714
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.159
the Crane Scrutiny. Jeff and I
have been doing that together and It's great

715
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.079
to hang out with David again.
We did foul Play a few months ago.

716
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.880
That was a lot of fun.
So thank you for having me.

717
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.599
I always I love your show and
I'm always happy to be on it.

718
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.679
Well, you know you will be
back. But let's talk about the Shirley

719
00:52:53.719 --> 00:53:00.280
Keep Serious podcast. Well, what's
what's new? So we just dropped are

720
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.760
track by track through the Grease soundtrack. The second biggest album nineteen seventy eight

721
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.960
was the Grease soundtrack. We're going
song by song. We've got all kinds

722
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.639
of nuggets and information, and it's
those iconic ones that you love, hopelessly

723
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.800
devoted to you, Grease. You're
the one that I want all that stuff.

724
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.559
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Awesome, awesome, Dave you

725
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:25.639
are, You're no stranger to Grease. What is your favorite song on the

726
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:30.559
Grease soundtrack? Man? I have
to hark back to what I said in

727
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.840
the podcast we did for a film
at forty five. I don't remember what

728
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.679
I said. Do you have a
favorite now? Not that I can think

729
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:44.480
of? You cut me off guard? Jeff, hold on? How dare

730
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:47.880
you catch me off guard? If
I don't remember all the songs? What

731
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.800
about you, Jeff, what's your
favorite grease song? You know, it's

732
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.400
You're the one that I want.
That's the feel good have a good time,

733
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.880
sing a long song for me,
so Lettie, Sandy, Yeah,

734
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.639
tell me about it. Stud have
you, David? Are your chills multiplying?

735
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:10.599
Have you? Have you got chills? Are not multiplying? What was

736
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.519
the last song that they did?
You're the one that I want, You're

737
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.679
the one I want. Yeah?
The last one is we go Together?

738
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:21.480
Oh that's right, Yeah, that's
yeah. The shamlamo ding don shamalaing and

739
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:29.840
ding dong. That's that change changeup. That would be the one. All

740
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.480
right, Well, Dave again,
always a pleasure with you, sir.

741
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.440
I'm looking forward to you guys.
You're on a short a super short break,

742
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:43.599
but uh, fasers set the stunt
yep. You know you guys.

743
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.599
You guys have a regular Star Trek
series happening now for a film by podcast,

744
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.400
and I cannot wait to hear what
you guys are going to do with

745
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.519
that. Yeah, we got a
big world, universe, galaxy whatever you

746
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.599
want to call it, to explore, and we've got some great ideas and

747
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.440
we can't wait to share that with
everybody well, we are looking forward to

748
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.599
it. Listeners, we would love
for you to share your thoughts on The

749
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:09.039
Enforcer. Do you have a favorite
film in the Dirty Hairy franchise? Reach

750
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:13.639
out to us, let us know
www dot a Film by a Podcast.

751
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:19.679
You can find us on Twitter,
Facebook, Instagram at a Film Buy podcast

752
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.159
and as always, thanks for lending
your ears. We'll catch you on the

753
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:34.320
flip side.