Joe Johnston - Jurassic Park III

0:00 Hold on to your butts. It's time some of the crew on Phaser set the stun step off the bridge onto the transporter for an away mission, and we are beaming down to deal with some dinosaurs in a film by Joe Johnston in his two thousand and one film Jurassic Park three. Hello everyone, I'm David Burns and I'm Wayne Whiten, and this is a film by podcast Wayne.

0:49 Thank you for joining me on this away mission. It feels refreshing to step away from the bridge for a little bit. But we find ourselves in some dangerous territory on an island for the third time, surrounded by dangerous down the stores that really want to rip us apart. Yeah, and this time we don't have Steven Spielberg to back us up, So you know, how are they going to do? Yeah? I know that's kind of crazy, right, No Spielberg stepping into the chair of the executive producer, this time giving the reins over to mister Joe Johnston, who I think did a pretty good job. I mean, I got some nitpicks of this film, you know, but I still like it. Yeah, and it's not a bad film. I mean it's not I think in ranking it's goes one, two, three.

1:35 It's perfect way of putting it one, two and three. But it's a decent film. It's it is, it's fun. It is, it is absolutely so. Three things you may not know about this director and a quote. Joe Johnston provided the final designs for Star Wars characters Yoda and Boba Fett. Joe Johnson had lobbied to direct The Lost World, but was turned down when Spielberg decided to return for that film. You're not gonna in the way of Spielberg. Spielberg passed the director's job to Joe Johnson for this one because he decided to direct AI Artificial Intelligence in two thousand and one, and the final film in director Joe Johnston's Jungle trilogy, following on from Honey I Shrunk the Kids in nineteen eighty nine and Jumanji in nineteen ninety five. And a quote from Joe. This is basically about the actors that he uses. All actors bring something unexpected to the role because they have to translate what's on the page and make a real character out of the black and white text that's there in the script.

2:38 And from what I heard translating from what's on the page was a little bit difficult for this film, considering many of the times they didn't even have a page in front of them to translate. Yeah. I think that was a kind of a complaint, wasn't it from the actors, because they didn't know what was going on and it was being rewritten and written and it kept for the whole production. In my understanding, Yeah, that's rough. I can't even imagine doing a film where you don't even know what the next scene is because you don't have the you know, the page. I mean, it's constantly being written and rewritten as you're filming. I don't that's so confusing to me. I couldn't imagine doing this caliber of a film with no script set in stone. How do you do that? I don't know. How how do you not film something that's not going to be used? I wonder, you know, I wonder how much that if they did actually have to redo some stuff, you know, I have to refilm new scenes or have scenes that they couldn't even use because of the constantly changing script. I'm always curious about that.

3:35 Yeah, and I'm sure they probably had to come back to do some pickups as you know, like a few months later after they finished rapping, because they obviously missed something or something wasn't working. So it's surprising that this movie turned out as good as it did with that happening to be honest, true of you, yes, because we've seen that stuff happen before and that movie is always a mess in his garbage. Yeah, it usually does turns out to be a disaster, but this I think they picked up the pieces pretty well with this film. They did absolutely, So let's this. This is kind of unique that we're doing this year. A five word synopsis. So Wayne, I'm curious, what do you got? So they are doing this again? All right? Yeah they are, which.

4:18 I mean goes on mini levels because if you look at the character, you know, uh, sim Neil's character, you know he's doing it again as well. True, Yeah, I can't argue with that. You're right. Mine is Search for Son among Dinosaurs. There we go. That's good. Yep, sums it up that it does. So you you already mentioned it's nice to have Grant back as Sam Neil because obviously we didn't have him the Lost World and they wanted to bring his character back, and you know, looking in Now. They brought him back again for Jurassic World Dominion, and they've brought back you know, a few others as well. But we get Elie back to a little bit, not as much as we want her, but she's back.

5:02 Yeah. I think at the time when I when we first saw this film, I think that was probably my biggest disappointment with them, because I did enjoy it when I first watched it, is that she's hardly in it, and I think I was looking more forward more to the duo being back rather than just the one character. But at least we got a little bit of her. I mean, her presence is there in the film. So yeah. Yeah. The one thing I did like kind of threw me off, and it was another thing that kind of aggravated about the film. But then it really does make sense. Is when you see the scene of Grant, you know, playing with the kid and it's Ellie's son, and you think, oh, that's Grant and Ellie's kid, right, you think they got together and everything's happy, and oh no, no, they're not.

5:43 Really throws you off, doesn't it. Yeah? It does, But you know, looking in hindsight, that's probably the best way to go I agreed, especially with everything they've been talking about recently. But I don't know, you know what the thing about these characters, and you know, when they continue on, you are they're going to get married or they're not. You know, it's when it comes to sequels, it always makes a little bit of a mess. So I'm okay with that. That works for me. I am too. I mean it bothered me when I first saw the film because I mean my expectations were that those two got together. But then in hindsight, now looking back, I'm like, ah, I think it's kind of nice that they didn't get together. It makes more sense. It's not that that it does nice little bow tie wrapped up present that you would get in a perfect world, because we don't. We don't have a perfect world, and it's nice to see that takes place in the Hollywood.

6:27 Yeah, and the Jurassic World is definitely not a perfect world. I mean, it's full of dinosaurs exactly. To me, that's not a good thing in my opinion, you know when in my own mind, I would not want to live in a world with dinosaurs. Now. You know, it's funny on phasers, we always pick apart, like why does the Federation keep having data on the starship because he keeps causing havoc, He keeps causing issues. This is the same scenario. Why do you keep going back to these islands? Stop? Yeah, And that raises a lot of questions I have with the whole Jurassic franchise and stuff and how they're dealing with the dinosaurs. It's just I don't know, it just seems like they're how can they not be all loose over all over the world and it just causing absolute chaos. I don't know.

7:12 I don't get it, I really don't. But you know, this one was still entertaining. It had some great fights and great action sequences, you know, and I got to give it to that. But I did not like the ending of this film at all. I like the fight that the spinosaurus they had on the river. I thought that was fantastic. I really did. But then you get to the raptors, because obviously you have to have raptors a Jurassic bark, you got to obviously deal with the eggs and stuff like that and get rid of the eggs and you know kind of thing. But it very it felt very anti Clotmacket there with the raptors or is that was that just me?

7:53 No? No, that that wasn't you. My problem with the film, and this is all the way back to two thousand and one when I first saw it, is that it the ending happens so abruptly and so quick. This is the shortest running Jurassic Park. I mean, it's really just a little over an hour and a half long, which is a big surprise because all the other ones were like massively long. And it does it just feels like everything's happening so quick, and that we don't really get a satisfying conclusion with the dinosaurs. Yeahs. And when the marine showed up that fast, it felt awkward, like it did. I'm so confused. I mean, I think it's funny that Ellison in the entire military Okay, I get that because she was on the island, and you know, she knows the chaos that that happens, and with Grant being there, she wanted to make sure that he he needed. But the way it happened so fast and abruptly, it just it really threw me off in the end, and it to me, it almost ruined the film.

8:52 Yeah, I understand, how what you mean there, Yeah. But I mean, like I said, there's still some good entertaining throughout this film. You know, a lot, a lot of great action sequences and stuff like that. The obviously the raptors and stuff like that, we have them throughout because again it's Jurassic Park film, so you have to have raptors involved some way or another. And the Spanish Srus was a nice touch because we've had t Rex quite a bit, right, so we needed we needed some new dinosaurs, so they wanted to give us something a little bit, a little bit creepier, a little bit more demonic. I don't know how you would say it, but Spanta Stors really felt like that, right, he felt more intense than t Rex. I guess you could say.

9:34 Yeah. You know, it's been a while since I've revisited this film. I probably haven't seen it since like two thousand and two, and I'll be honest, I haven't fully watched all of them more recent Jurassic Park ones. But one thing I always that I always always concerned me about this, and I didn't even realize that they had addressed in this film, is that these aren't actually dinosaurs. I mean not as in you know, they were like, you know what the six five million years ago, these these what does he refer to it as more like amusement park attractions. Yes, yep, I didn't realize it, and that's the way I've always looked at it. So I'm glad that he addressed up because we can get some pretty wild dinosaurs now you know they're But then on the flip side, I'm glad they do it that way because now they're able to expand and you know, create new stuff for this film. And I think I as a dinosaur lover, and I'm not as big of a dinosaur lover as some people. You know, I didn't play with dinosaurs and have dinosaur toys when I was a kid, But I do enjoy watching them, and I do enjoy watching them running around on screen. And it's kind of neat seeing some new ones on here it is.

10:41 And and you know what I like about that too, is it adds conflict to Grant character because he's struggling with that because now he feels like he's not needed anymore because they have these amusement park dinosaurs. You know, I mean, I mean, I think even the kid Eric brings it up to him when they're when they're having that conversation with each other about he just feels outdated now and not needed anymore. And I think it's funny at that moment when they poked fun at Malcolm. You know, that's right, You know that that is that is a point too about the whole thing. You know, archaeologists that center their entire lives on digging up dinosaur bones. If dinosaurs are actually brought back, it kind of does make them obsolete. Yeah, if you really think about it.

11:28 You know, I guess we've seen a little bit of that. You know, there's always a lot of that talk today about you know, bringing back extinct species and stuff, you know, and I guess we're falling into the same questions that that they had in the first Jurassic Park and John Hammon, and you know, do we have the right to do that? You know, doing it? And that's one of the things, you know, if we do have them, the mystery that I may not be making much sense when I'm talking a little bit here, but you know, having dinosaurs around, bringing them back, you know, tax takes away little bit of that mystery that we have having to you know, use our imagination with when they discover the bones. When we have all the archaeologists out there discovering the bones, seeing the skeletons, trying to decide, you know, what these these monsters look like, and that that's I guess that's some of the wonder of Jurassic Park.

12:17 I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I would. I would say there's what three major action sequences in the film. You obviously have the Spinus Wars introduction where he tears the airplane apart, and you know that's that was a cool sequence and everything because they have to get out of the plane and get away, and it just seems like that goes on and ontil they run into the t Rex and the spider, the spinosaurs and t rex fight. So I mean a lot happens in that action sequence. Then well, I guess there probably might be a little bit more of that because you got kind of a raptor sequence when they go into the buildings. It happened so fast too this film. I mean, I didn't realize how quick we got into the action of this film. There's no waste in any time here. No, that's probably part of the reason why they were writing it as they went, because they probably after after action.

13:01 Let's just do it that way. It makes it easier, so you know. And the one thing that we didn't get in the other two dress of parts was the Terradyn so yes in here and that is an incredible sequence. I think, out of everything, that was the one thing that I was hoping from this film that we got. You know, we would get a little tease and lost world at the very end if I remember rights. But now we want to see him. We want to see them go after you know, we want to see full action with with the Tarodons. And I'm glad we got that. And it was so neat how they introduced that too, you know, when they were down, you know, walking on the catwalks and stuff like that, in the fog, and then Alan goes first, and then with an Amanda I think went second, and then Eric the kid goes and then he stops because something lands in the fog. You don't see what it is until it comes out of the fog. I just thought that was a cool introduction to a tyroodon.

13:49 Yeah, and you know you've just right there you're talking about this scene that's with without question, probably my favorite scene in the entire film. You know, I love that scene because not only would be an introduce stuff that we've never seen before, there's no no retreading here. But it's just beautifully shot. The action is just wonderfully edited. I really like that scene. It's it's me. It's the centerpiece of the film. I would agree with you on that, which is kind of funny because I mean, the Spanish Wars should be the one that is centered around, right, Yeah, but you're right. The tear down steals the show that whole sequence, does you know? And then after that, obviously you have the fight with the the Spinus Wars in the river, which was which was a cool scene. It really was. It was horn, the rain and stuff like that. I thought that was cool, really well done. Yeah it was. I don't count the second raptor because that really wasn't a fight for crying out. That was just here, here's your eggs, get out of here. Go. Yeah, So it is what it is. There. We know how I feel about the ending, So there is But okay, well let's go ahead and take our first break, Wayne, and when we come back, we'll talk about the cast and crew.

14:48 How's that filming sounds good? All right? We'll be right back, Welcome back everybody where. Wayne and I here to Film Buy are discussing Jurassic Park three, directed by Joe Johnston. So, Wayne, as we already mentioned, Sam Neil is back as Doctor Allen Grant. It felt good to have him back in this role. It felt comfortable. I guess you could say. It did it didn't, And Sam Neil said he's a fantastic actor. Is I've always always liked him. He did another film, uh, what was it, the Final Conflict. I absolutely love him in that in that film, and loved him in Jurassic Park. And I was so excited to see him back when they announced the Jurassic Park three.

15:29 I think that's what brought me to the theater more than anything. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And I think it was a good move because that obviously he's gonna put butts in the seat knowing that that doctor Grant's back, and he really keeps it everything glued together. He's the one that drives everything on that island, which obviously why the parents wanted him, right. Oh yeah, definitely. So, I mean, I mean it makes sense and I like that, you know, because I think if they had gotten another dinosaur expert that we didn't know, like a new character. I don't I think I would have hated this film. Yeah, I don't think the attraction to this film would have been as great, especially for us, all of us Jurassic Park fans who liked the first two films. I don't think we would have been excited to go see it without him.

16:13 Yeah. Absolutely, that whole sequence there at the end two when he's using the satellite phone and he's trying to call Ellie and her son picks it up. You know, I thought that was a cool sequence too. He said it's a dinosaur man. Yeah, I thought that was a cool sequence. By the way, just just for a little, uh little trivia here, the kid is obviously sees Barney on the TV and he gets distracted by Barney. Yeah, so just. For a trivia here. Trevor Morgan who plays Eric, his first job was on Barney. Oh, I don't. I don't know if they did that on purpose. I don't know if they did it because Barney Barney's a dinosaur and they were kind of just making that connection, or maybe but it might have been both, it could have been.

16:58 I don't know. I just thought that was of funny him Like God, okay, I just thought that was kind of cool. William H. Macy as Paul Kirby, great actor, phenomenal actor. Obviously, he very got very famous because of er back back in the days on television. I'm gonna plug that. I got to meet him and be in a film with him when he was in Andersonville in nineteen ninety four. So yes, got to throw that plug in there every time, because it's not often you get to meet high caliber performers like that, and I want more of him. I miss William H. Macy. Yeah, he's one of those actors. As soon as he appears on screen, you know who he is. It's just so recognizable, you know, boom, oh, hey it's Sam yep.

17:40 And he's he's good, he's he's great, he's done. Gosh, Tommy, those films he's done. He's done so many of them I remember. But yeah, I remember most from R and he's phenomenal in that series. And he's one of those actors that will just dissolve into the character. You forget you're watching William H. Macy because he's so good at whatever he does, so fantastic actor. Well that's probably why he gets so many jobs and has been on so many films. Is a very reliable actor. You know you're going to get a good performance from him. Absolutely, And then playing his wife Amanda Kirby is Tia Leoni. I always knew her because she was married to David Coveny, because I'm a big X Files fan. Right, I forgot about that, yep. I always remember the one episode where she actually guess appeared in an episode where she played Scully in the episode they were making the film about modern Scully.

18:31 Yes, I do. Yeah, I forgot about that as well, because. I remember Scully trying to show Tialoney how to run in heels, which I thought was hysterical. Yeah, you know, she's an actor. We don't hear too much our actress, so we don't hear too much about it anymore. I don't remember. I don't realize has she done anything recently. I'm not sure, not that I think. I just remember her most from Deep Impact, which was a film that I was excited about because it looked like it was great from the trailer, and I was so disappointed. That wasn't the greatest. I'll tell you. So she was good at it. He was very good in it. Absolutely. Tiloney's really good in everything she does, so I definitely see what David the Covidy saw in her. Yeah, great great actress, great actress.

19:12 Of course. We called a little bit about Trevor Borgan who plays Eric at Kirby My Michael Jeter as Udeski. I always remember him from Evening Shade with Burt Reynolds. I forgot about that too, Yeah, that's right, he was on that show. Gosh, I haven't seen that show in many, many years. When you're dropping the ball, you're the TV guy on that. I know that's one of those shows. Do they even have that on streaming? Gosh, I'm gonna have to look at come to think of it. Yeah, i'd like to see that again because he was good on that show. He was very good in that, and I know we lost him a few years ago, wasn't it. That's right, Yeah, I do remember hearing about that. Yeah. I always always enjoyed watching him and when you pop up in guest appearances like this. He didn't have a big role in this one, and he gets killed by a raptor. But I thought everything he's in he's been a very good character actor. But I'm set on Evening Shade. That's where I always know him.

19:59 Yeah, yeah, probably his big claim for fame right there, that series. Yeah, absolutely, John Diale as Cooper, who didn't last very long in this film, by the way, No at all. Yeah, you didn't have it that big a part. No, no, not at all. He's already gone see you later. Just just for fodder for the dinosaurs, I guess is basically what he became. And then Laura Laura durn obviously as Ellie. Obviously nice seeing her back. I know she didn't get a very big role in this film, but I'm glad they least put her there because obviously Grant had to have somebody to call. I wonder what was I mean, did they have they intended her to be and the full film was she not available? I wonder what the story is. I didn't see that in my research.

20:42 I don't know. The only thing that I can think of because I didn't find anything either in my research. The only thing I can think of is if they included Ellie and Grant, it would feel at Jurassic Park all over again, the first one. That well, yeah, I mean yeah, well it still did anyway, it did yeah, you're you're right. I still think that the benefits would have would have outweighed that, but uh, yeah, you're right, I'll give you that, yes, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah. So let's talk about some of the background production and insight to this film, wine, because there's quite a bit if you do some research. Yeah, you know. One of the things I found interested and remember the poop scene, the droppings they had to get the phone out of that, which was disgusting, by the way, yes it was. That is fifth that's two hundred and fifty gallons of oatmeal. You So, now when you eat breakfast, think of that scene.

21:38 If yeah, everyone ever cared much for oatmeal in the first place, Now, I definitely don't. Yeah, growth right, Hey it worked. I mean it looked like poop. It did. It was disgusting. What else did you find, Whene, Well, I mean, you know other than the usual behind the scenes stuff like with the script and things. Well let me let me stick. So I did read a lot of people were wondering, going, you know, why didn't Spielberg direct this? And this's that I'm gonna say for me, that doesn't surprise me one. But I never expected him to he's not a big never been a big fan of sequels the world. Yeah, that's that's the big shock. We were all really shocked that he did Lost Worlds. I mean, he turned down he turned down Jaws two. He refused to do any sequel for like E t or you know, Indiana Jones.

22:26 He never really considered those sequels. But so I never expected him to direct this. Glad they chose Joe Johnson, which they've always had a good relationship between the two of them. But you know, it's just I'm just blown away by the fact that they filmed this and put this together without much of a much of a script, because that just I can't get. I can't wrap my head around that. I can't either, to be honest with you, I do know. I think there's a couple action sequences that they borrowed that were left over from the first two directed part films that they had story bartered them and didn't use them in either film. So they actually used them up in think Part three. Since they were already planned out. And they went through quite a few drafts, they brought in a few writers. I know there was at least three times they wrote scripts through them out may have used pieces here and you know, piece together the final the final bit.

23:13 Yeah. One of the things I find interesting in anybody who knows me knows that I love Creature from the Black Lagoon from nineteen fifty four. But they filmed the river location is the universal backlot where they shot Creature from the Black Lagoon. Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah, it is when I learned to say, oh, that makes me appreciate that scene even more. I do know that, you know, Sam Neil, he actually had two offers. He actually turned down the first Lord of the Rings films to do this film, and that really surprises me. I don't know. I guess I guess if I had the choice between doing Lord of the Rings and coming back with my character, I guess I probably would have made the choice. But still, yeah, way, that had to have been a hard decision to make.

23:59 You know. And when you're when you're talking about the casting of this film, I went and looked to see who was all potential for this film of other actors, and man, it is a laundry list of names. I'll just give you the laundry list here and I'm not gonna see who they're playing but stellin Scars Guard Steve with Simmy, Tony Shaloub, Gabriel Byrne, Ray Liota, Robert Patrick, William Sadler, Mark Harmon, Chris North, Stephen Lange, Liam Neeson, Andy Garcia, Matthew Broderick, Kate Blanchett, Sharon Stone, Lisa Kudro, Sarah, Jessica Parker, and Brookshields were all considered for this film. And most of those names I think would all have done a very good job at any of these characters, because they're all That's a really good list of names.

24:43 Yeah, it really was. And Stephen Summers and John Jandybont were up for director, but he gave it to Joe Johnson obviously because of he wanted to do Lost World. I like both those directors, but I don't think either one of them fit in the franchise sequel type film like Jurassic Park three. I think they made the right decision. I do. I do. And Steven Summers had Mummy anyway, didn't the Mummy Returns. Yeah, he was doing just before this. Yeah, I heard he was a paint of the butt to work with, so I'm not sure how him and Spielberg would have got along with each other. Well, probably why he didn't get the job. Yep, I'm sure that probably happened that we just didn't see he was behind the scenes, you know. Yeah, goodbye. Another thing I would like to think about you, as you know, I love talking about the director of photography because without them, we wouldn't have a film, we wouldn't have the perfect lighting scenes that we have. H This was Shelley Johnson.

25:39 He actually was the director of photography for A Greyhound, The Expendable Two, Captain America, The First Adventure Surprise, Surprise, yep, The Wolfman Again, Surprise Joe Johnson, Hildago again, The Last Castle, Teenage Mutant, Ninja Turtles, Secret of the Ooze Wayne. Yeah, well you know, hey, not wrong with that. No, not a thing. Shelley Johnson is also an award winning painter whose work has been shown at the Ventura County Museum as well as galleries and national shows. Really, yep, you know that now that I didn't know that. I didn't. I actually didn't know that. But you know, being a cinematographer is a real is it's it's an art, it is, so I can see why you could transfer some of that, that knowledge that you would know, that that experience to uh, to an actual painting. I like that, Yeah, might seeing some of it.

26:32 I wouldn't either. I would like to see that. And you know, a lot of people don't realize. And then one of the main reasons, the main reason I like talking about the director photography is because I am a photographer myself, and I just know what goes into that to make sure you get the correct exposure. But what people don't realize is all that lighting you see in the film. That's the director of photography. He is going around and making all that light is perfect for his cameras, not just one camera, all the cameras and make sure it set right to the tone that the director wants. I mean, that's hard work, man. It's an extremely important job. I mean, the director tells you what's what to put on screen, but the director of photography makes it looks beautiful. Yeah, and it's it's so important. You get a bad one, you'll notice it right away. But you get a great one, you've got a winner.

27:21 Absolutely yep. Sure enough. All right, Well, well let's take another break and we'll come back. We'll continue our discussion Welcome back everybody where, Wayne and I are a continue our discussion here in the film by with Joe Johnston's Jurassic Park three. So, and I think you already kind of talked about your favorite scene from the film, which is the tear down about it, which was a really good one. By the way, that would probably be my first one that I would lean towards. But when I think about Jurassic Park three, my brain always goes to hearing that phone ringing that, yes, the ringtone, and you forget about the phone, you do when you're watching it.

28:05 You forget that the phone was handed to the guy who was eating on from the from the plane, and you gottad too. And then when you start hearing it ringing again because the kid starts running it because he hears it, starts running and starts screaming for his mom and dad. Then they hear him yelling. So they all meet at that big fence. Your first indicator when they meeted that fence is something bad's got to be coming, because why is this fence here? And they're both on opposite sides of it. Then you hear that when they're they're talking and hugging and you know, through the fence and they're like, I heard that silly jingle you have, and he's like the phone, what phone? And then you hear the phone ring and then everybody turns and you just see the spider Saurus just standing there like watching them, like, what are you doing here? I am? You know, I love that scene so much. And then all of a sudden, they're like all cry and they all take off running, and you know, I mean, I know, it's not like a big, huge scene because the Teraradox scene is phenomenal, and I just don't want to use that one because you used it this one. Though. Every time I think of Jurassic Part three, I think of that scene.

29:03 Yeah. Yeah, that's a great scene. It's a lot of these action scenes. The Avery scene is my favorite scene. I already mentioned that. I think. I love the build up, I love the cinematography. I think the setting is fantastic. It's something original or new that we haven't seen in Jurassic Park. But you know, over the years, the one thing that I remember the most about Jurassic Park three that I came out of that theater was that Raptors saying, you know, Alan, I don't know why that has stuck in my head all these years. I just before I watched it for this podcast. That's the one thing I remember. It popped in my head. Oh yep, that's right. That's that scene, the dream scene.

29:46 You know, I've forgotten about that scene. And two it happened and I think, oh god, I forgot about this. Yeah. I think I laughed when it happened the first time, and I laughed again. I think that's just so hilarious. It is. It is. You would not expect that, obviously. I mean, we are our dreams are crazy, right, So I mean they are. It makes sense, So okay, we'll go with it. Well, let's talk about the numbers. So this film I had a ninety three million dollar budget and would gross about one hundred and eighty one million, which is kind of low for a Drassic Park film. It really that is. Yeah, it would be ranked ninth that year out of the films throughout two thousand and one. Still not bad, you know. I mean it doubled its budget really, so, I mean it did what it needed to do, and I'm sure it did well in the DVD market when it came out at people I didn't and I still wanted.

30:38 That's how I watched it was I you know, I watched my physical copy, you know, so you know, it still did a decent amount of money and enough that the franchise is still going for crime loud, because what do we got now? Six? Five, six, I think it's seventh. It's definitely six, going on to the seven. I know we're going on to the seven because then I will I will admit I have not seen the last one. Not missing anything. I did not like the last one. I did not with Scarlette Johansson. Yeah, that's why I didn't see it, not like that film whatsoever. I don't know if I'm starting to get dinosaur fatigue. That's what I'm getting. I think it just it's no longer. It doesn't have that that appeal that it had back with these films, and I think we've just, you know, we see too much of it. It's not anything original.

31:24 Back then, you know, the CGI was was breathtaking. It was it was you know, we'd never seen anything like that before. It was always getting better and better, but we're used to it now. Yep, yep. I mean the first traffic park with groundbreaking we were obviously did. That so much. That was Yeah, it was. I mean when you first saw the dinosaurs in the theater, you were just blown away. Now it's like, eh, it's no big deal. It is for dinosaurs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so how I feel. And well, you know, I'm I'm not going to take away many of the writing and stuff, because I'm sure that you know, there were parts of it I really like to the first you know, the other two, but I just no longer have that excitement to watch it.

32:05 I will eventually, I will. I'm sure we'll get around and eventually, eventually when I day when I'm bored, which is so incredibly rare that you know, it won't happen, you know, maybe after I retire, But I will watch them again. You're not missing anythings if you watch it like fifteen years down the road, You're You're good. You're good, I promise, you know. I like Dominion. A lot of people didn't like Dominion, but because you had the whole. Cast from Dress Party, Yeah that was my favorite of the more recent ones. Yeah. Now, don't get me wrong. I love Jurassic World because it felt new and fresh. Oh yeah, I enjoyed that. It was a great, great summer film. Great. Yeah, so it was a nice way to bring back because you actually have the amusement park now on the island, so like, oh, you guys just don't learn, do.

32:45 They don't They don't learn. But anyway, I mean, it still did well and obviously the franchise is still going strong. So yep, it goes to Universal for continuing that I'm moving forward. All right, Well, we are going to take our third and fun break, But for you Patreon members, hang on stick with us, because we're going to continue a discussion. For you out there who are not a Patreon member, we will be back for you in a little bit. But if you want to sign up for Patreon, go on our website. Go and sign up, and you can listen to the discussion that we Wayne and I are about ready to have about Don Davis and his score and our three top picks of Joe Johnson's films that we like besides Jurassic Park three. Welcome back to our other listeners. You just missed out on a wonderful conversation about Don Davis's score and our three picks of Joe Johnson's films that he's directed. Over the years. Again, if you are not a Patreon member, please go sign up, join and you will be able to listen in on these continued discussions that we have for these episodes just for our Patreon members.

33:58 All right, Wayne, let's do the book. Would you recommend this film? Yes? I would. It's it's not the best of the the the trilogy, which is what I'm gonna call it, but it's definitely a fun film, an entertaining film. It's a popcorn film, you know, you don't don't put don't think too much in it, just just sit down, enjoy the film. If you're gonna watch all three of them, it's it's a perfect, great ending to the trilogy, you know, I would recommend definitely. Yeah, why not enjoy say dinosaurs. Exactly, That's what I say. Enjoy dinosaurs. Joe Johnson does a great job. And the mere fact that this film was put together as it was being filmed is just crazy, ridiculous when you think about it, and it turned out decent, you know, because as we said before, when a movie is not done with the script and they're filming, usually those turn out not very well and you do not like them at all. And this one actually turned out pretty entertaining, and you don't have to make that much of a commitment. It's only an hour and a half long.

34:55 This is true, and it lies by when I watched it, it was over with before I even knew it. I'm like, wow, that was a quick Jurassic Park film. Yeah, so yeah, enjoy it absolutely. I have a physical copy. That's where I watched it. Wayne. I'm sure you have a physical copy of it as well. That's where I watch it. Although I also noticed earlier today that it's also on AMC Plus. Yep, so it's there. Peacock I think has it too, because they have it as well. Yeah, yep, so go go there check it out. I think they have all of the Jurassic Parks to be honest with you, so you can go enjoy it, watch the trilogy. Why not make a day of it? So that would be fun. What do you think of What would be your five word synopsis of this film?

35:35 Let us know. Go to www dot a film by podcast dot com to give us your answer, or email us at a film by Podcast at gmail dot com. If we use your five words synoptis on the show, we'll shout you out an episode and you'll get some film by swag. You can join us on social media. You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and x. We love of interacting with you, sharing opinions, taking your request for future episodes, and debating great movies. Wayne, thank you for coming off the bridge at Phaser, set the stunt and joining me for this discussion of Joe Johnson on Traffic Part three. Oh, it's nice to come back to Earth and talk about some dinosaurs.

36:15 I love it me too. It is always a fantastic time. I know we've got some more films that you and I will be involved in here on a film buy coming up this year, So I look forward to that happening, and so looking forward to that, looking forward to be getting back on the bridge for our continuing discussion of the sixtieth anniversary of Star Trek, where we're talking about season one Star Trek, the original series. We still got a lot of episodes to go through and so we do really good ones coming up. We do, and we got Strange New World season four coming up. Yes, looking forward to that. Can't wait to see what they bring to us. Yeah, I'm very excited about it. I know we've got that Puppet Movie episode. I don't know what that one's all about. I'm I'm walking into it with an open mind. It could be a lot of fun. I love the Muppets anyways.

36:58 I do too, but I don't want rapping Klingons every day. Neither do I, so we'll go with that. I know our producer Jeff would disagree with us, but that's okay. He can be wrong. All you're listening to the show, we thank you so much following us on social media and subscribing to our Patreon have a great day. We hear the film. I appreciate you listening to us.