June 28, 2026

Joe Johnston - Jurassic Park III

Joe Johnston - Jurassic Park III

Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s! David and Wayne leave the Delta Quadrant of their Phasers Set To Stun series for dinosaurs on Isla Sorna, as they celebrate the 25th anniversary of Joe Johnston's 2001 sequel Jurassic Park III! This...

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Season 7
Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s!

David and Wayne leave the Delta Quadrant of their Phasers Set To Stun series for dinosaurs on Isla Sorna, as they celebrate the 25th anniversary of Joe Johnston's 2001 sequel Jurassic Park III!

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Hold on to your butts. It's time some of the

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crew on Phaser set the stun step off the bridge

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onto the transporter for an away mission, and we are

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beaming down to deal with some dinosaurs in a film

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by Joe Johnston in his two thousand and one film

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Jurassic Park three. Hello everyone, I'm David Burns and I'm

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Wayne Whiten, and this is a film by podcast Wayne.

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Thank you for joining me on this away mission. It

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feels refreshing to step away from the bridge for a

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little bit. But we find ourselves in some dangerous territory

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on an island for the third time, surrounded by dangerous

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down the stores that really want to rip us apart.

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Yeah, and this time we don't have Steven Spielberg to

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back us up, So you know, how are they going

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to do?

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Yeah? I know that's kind of crazy, right, No Spielberg

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stepping into the chair of the executive producer, this time

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giving the reins over to mister Joe Johnston, who I

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think did a pretty good job. I mean, I got

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some nitpicks of this film, you know, but I still

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like it.

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Yeah, and it's not a bad film. I mean it's

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not I think in ranking it's goes one, two, three.

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It's perfect way of putting it one, two and three.

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But it's a decent film. It's it is, it's fun.

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It is, it is absolutely so. Three things you may

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not know about this director and a quote. Joe Johnston

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provided the final designs for Star Wars characters Yoda and

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Boba Fett. Joe Johnson had lobbied to direct The Lost World,

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but was turned down when Spielberg decided to return for

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that film. You're not gonna in the way of Spielberg.

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Spielberg passed the director's job to Joe Johnson for this

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one because he decided to direct AI Artificial Intelligence in

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two thousand and one, and the final film in director

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Joe Johnston's Jungle trilogy, following on from Honey I Shrunk

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the Kids in nineteen eighty nine and Jumanji in nineteen

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ninety five. And a quote from Joe. This is basically

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about the actors that he uses. All actors bring something

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unexpected to the role because they have to translate what's

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on the page and make a real character out of

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the black and white text that's there in the script.

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And from what I heard translating from what's on the

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page was a little bit difficult for this film, considering

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many of the times they didn't even have a page

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in front of them to translate.

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Yeah. I think that was a kind of a complaint,

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wasn't it from the actors, because they didn't know what

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was going on and it was being rewritten and written

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and it kept for the whole production.

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In my understanding, Yeah, that's rough. I can't even imagine

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doing a film where you don't even know what the

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next scene is because you don't have the you know,

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the page. I mean, it's constantly being written and rewritten

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as you're filming. I don't that's so confusing to me.

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I couldn't imagine doing this caliber of a film with

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no script set in stone. How do you do that?

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I don't know. How how do you not film something

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that's not going to be used? I wonder, you know,

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I wonder how much that if they did actually have

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to redo some stuff, you know, I have to refilm

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new scenes or have scenes that they couldn't even use

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because of the constantly changing script. I'm always curious about that.

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Yeah, and I'm sure they probably had to come back

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to do some pickups as you know, like a few

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months later after they finished rapping, because they obviously missed

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something or something wasn't working. So it's surprising that this

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movie turned out as good as it did with that

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happening to be honest, true of you, yes, because we've

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seen that stuff happen before and that movie is always

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a mess in his garbage.

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Yeah, it usually does turns out to be a disaster,

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but this I think they picked up the pieces pretty

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well with this film.

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They did absolutely, So let's this. This is kind of

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unique that we're doing this year. A five word synopsis.

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So Wayne, I'm curious, what do you got?

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So they are doing this again?

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All right? Yeah they are, which.

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I mean goes on mini levels because if you look

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at the character, you know, uh, sim Neil's character, you

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know he's doing it again as well.

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True, Yeah, I can't argue with that. You're right. Mine

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is Search for Son among Dinosaurs. There we go.

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That's good. Yep, sums it up that it does.

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So you you already mentioned it's nice to have Grant

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back as Sam Neil because obviously we didn't have him

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the Lost World and they wanted to bring his character back,

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and you know, looking in Now. They brought him back

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again for Jurassic World Dominion, and they've brought back you know,

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a few others as well. But we get Elie back

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to a little bit, not as much as we want her,

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but she's back.

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Yeah. I think at the time when I when we

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first saw this film, I think that was probably my

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biggest disappointment with them, because I did enjoy it when

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I first watched it, is that she's hardly in it,

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and I think I was looking more forward more to

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the duo being back rather than just the one character.

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But at least we got a little bit of her.

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I mean, her presence is there in the film. So yeah.

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Yeah. The one thing I did like kind of threw

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me off, and it was another thing that kind of

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aggravated about the film. But then it really does make sense.

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Is when you see the scene of Grant, you know,

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playing with the kid and it's Ellie's son, and you think, oh,

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that's Grant and Ellie's kid, right, you think they got

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together and everything's happy, and oh no, no, they're not.

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Really throws you off, doesn't it.

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Yeah? It does, But you know, looking in hindsight, that's

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probably the best way to go I agreed, especially with

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everything they've been talking about recently. But I don't know,

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you know what the thing about these characters, and you know,

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when they continue on, you are they're going to get

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married or they're not. You know, it's when it comes

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to sequels, it always makes a little bit of a mess.

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So I'm okay with that. That works for me.

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I am too. I mean it bothered me when I

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first saw the film because I mean my expectations were

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that those two got together. But then in hindsight, now

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looking back, I'm like, ah, I think it's kind of

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nice that they didn't get together. It makes more sense.

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It's not that that it does nice little bow tie

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wrapped up present that you would get in a perfect world,

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because we don't. We don't have a perfect world, and

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it's nice to see that takes place in the Hollywood.

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Yeah, and the Jurassic World is definitely not a perfect world.

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I mean, it's full of dinosaurs exactly. To me, that's

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not a good thing in my opinion, you know when

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in my own mind, I would not want to live

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in a world with dinosaurs.

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Now. You know, it's funny on phasers, we always pick apart,

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like why does the Federation keep having data on the

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starship because he keeps causing havoc, He keeps causing issues.

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This is the same scenario. Why do you keep going

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back to these islands?

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Stop? Yeah, And that raises a lot of questions I

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have with the whole Jurassic franchise and stuff and how

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they're dealing with the dinosaurs. It's just I don't know,

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it just seems like they're how can they not be

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all loose over all over the world and it just

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causing absolute chaos. I don't know.

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I don't get it, I really don't. But you know,

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this one was still entertaining. It had some great fights

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and great action sequences, you know, and I got to

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give it to that. But I did not like the

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ending of this film at all. I like the fight

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that the spinosaurus they had on the river. I thought

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that was fantastic.

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I really did.

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But then you get to the raptors, because obviously you

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have to have raptors a Jurassic bark, you got to

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obviously deal with the eggs and stuff like that and

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get rid of the eggs and you know kind of thing.

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But it very it felt very anti Clotmacket there with

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the raptors or is that was that just me?

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No? No, that that wasn't you. My problem with the film,

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and this is all the way back to two thousand

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and one when I first saw it, is that it

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the ending happens so abruptly and so quick. This is

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the shortest running Jurassic Park. I mean, it's really just

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a little over an hour and a half long, which

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is a big surprise because all the other ones were

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like massively long. And it does it just feels like

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everything's happening so quick, and that we don't really get

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a satisfying conclusion with the dinosaurs.

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Yeahs. And when the marine showed up that fast, it

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felt awkward, like it did. I'm so confused. I mean,

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I think it's funny that Ellison in the entire military Okay,

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I get that because she was on the island, and

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you know, she knows the chaos that that happens, and

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with Grant being there, she wanted to make sure that

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he he needed. But the way it happened so fast

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and abruptly, it just it really threw me off in

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the end, and it to me, it almost ruined the film.

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Yeah, I understand, how what you mean there, Yeah.

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But I mean, like I said, there's still some good

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entertaining throughout this film. You know, a lot, a lot

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of great action sequences and stuff like that. The obviously

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the raptors and stuff like that, we have them throughout

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because again it's Jurassic Park film, so you have to

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have raptors involved some way or another. And the Spanish

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Srus was a nice touch because we've had t Rex

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quite a bit, right, so we needed we needed some

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new dinosaurs, so they wanted to give us something a

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little bit, a little bit creepier, a little bit more demonic.

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I don't know how you would say it, but Spanta

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Stors really felt like that, right, he felt more intense

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than t Rex. I guess you could say.

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Yeah. You know, it's been a while since I've revisited

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this film. I probably haven't seen it since like two

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thousand and two, and I'll be honest, I haven't fully

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watched all of them more recent Jurassic Park ones. But

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one thing I always that I always always concerned me

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about this, and I didn't even realize that they had

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addressed in this film, is that these aren't actually dinosaurs.

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I mean not as in you know, they were like,

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you know what the six five million years ago, these

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these what does he refer to it as more like

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amusement park attractions. Yes, yep, I didn't realize it, and

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that's the way I've always looked at it. So I'm

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glad that he addressed up because we can get some

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pretty wild dinosaurs now you know they're But then on

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the flip side, I'm glad they do it that way

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because now they're able to expand and you know, create

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new stuff for this film. And I think I as

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a dinosaur lover, and I'm not as big of a

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dinosaur lover as some people. You know, I didn't play

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with dinosaurs and have dinosaur toys when I was a kid,

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But I do enjoy watching them, and I do enjoy

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watching them running around on screen. And it's kind of

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neat seeing some new ones on here it is.

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And and you know what I like about that too,

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is it adds conflict to Grant character because he's struggling

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with that because now he feels like he's not needed

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anymore because they have these amusement park dinosaurs. You know,

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I mean, I mean, I think even the kid Eric

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brings it up to him when they're when they're having

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that conversation with each other about he just feels outdated

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now and not needed anymore. And I think it's funny

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at that moment when they poked fun at Malcolm.

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You know, that's right, You know that that is that

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is a point too about the whole thing. You know,

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archaeologists that center their entire lives on digging up dinosaur bones.

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If dinosaurs are actually brought back, it kind of does

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make them obsolete. Yeah, if you really think about it.

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You know, I guess we've seen a little bit of that.

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You know, there's always a lot of that talk today

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about you know, bringing back extinct species and stuff, you know,

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and I guess we're falling into the same questions that

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that they had in the first Jurassic Park and John Hammon,

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and you know, do we have the right to do that?

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You know, doing it?

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And that's one of the things, you know, if we

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do have them, the mystery that I may not be

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making much sense when I'm talking a little bit here,

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but you know, having dinosaurs around, bringing them back, you know,

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tax takes away little bit of that mystery that we

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have having to you know, use our imagination with when

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they discover the bones. When we have all the archaeologists

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out there discovering the bones, seeing the skeletons, trying to decide,

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you know, what these these monsters look like, and that

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that's I guess that's some of the wonder of Jurassic Park.

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I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I would. I would say

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there's what three major action sequences in the film. You

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obviously have the Spinus Wars introduction where he tears the

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airplane apart, and you know that's that was a cool

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sequence and everything because they have to get out of

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the plane and get away, and it just seems like

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that goes on and ontil they run into the t

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Rex and the spider, the spinosaurs and t rex fight.

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So I mean a lot happens in that action sequence.

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Then well, I guess there probably might be a little

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bit more of that because you got kind of a

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raptor sequence when they go into the buildings.

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It happened so fast too this film. I mean, I

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didn't realize how quick we got into the action of

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this film. There's no waste in any time here.

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No, that's probably part of the reason why they were

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writing it as they went, because they probably after after action.

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Let's just do it that way. It makes it easier,

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so you know. And the one thing that we didn't

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get in the other two dress of parts was the

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Terradyn so yes in here and that is an incredible sequence.

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I think, out of everything, that was the one thing

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that I was hoping from this film that we got.

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You know, we would get a little tease and lost

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world at the very end if I remember rights. But

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now we want to see him. We want to see

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them go after you know, we want to see full

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action with with the Tarodons. And I'm glad we got that.

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And it was so neat how they introduced that too,

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you know, when they were down, you know, walking on

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the catwalks and stuff like that, in the fog, and

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then Alan goes first, and then with an Amanda I

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think went second, and then Eric the kid goes and

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then he stops because something lands in the fog. You

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don't see what it is until it comes out of

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the fog. I just thought that was a cool introduction

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to a tyroodon.

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Yeah, and you know you've just right there you're talking

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about this scene that's with without question, probably my favorite

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scene in the entire film. You know, I love that

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scene because not only would be an introduce stuff that

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we've never seen before, there's no no retreading here. But

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it's just beautifully shot. The action is just wonderfully edited.

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I really like that scene. It's it's me. It's the

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centerpiece of the film.

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I would agree with you on that, which is kind

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of funny because I mean, the Spanish Wars should be

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the one that is centered around, right, Yeah, but you're right.

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The tear down steals the show that whole sequence, does

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you know? And then after that, obviously you have the

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fight with the the Spinus Wars in the river, which

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was which was a cool scene. It really was. It

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was horn, the rain and stuff like that. I thought

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that was cool, really well done. Yeah it was. I

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don't count the second raptor because that really wasn't a

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fight for crying out. That was just here, here's your eggs,

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get out of here. Go. Yeah, So it is what

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it is. There. We know how I feel about the ending,

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So there is But okay, well let's go ahead and

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take our first break, Wayne, and when we come back,

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we'll talk about the cast and crew.

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How's that filming sounds good?

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All right? We'll be right back, Welcome back everybody where.

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Wayne and I here to Film Buy are discussing Jurassic

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Park three, directed by Joe Johnston. So, Wayne, as we

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already mentioned, Sam Neil is back as Doctor Allen Grant.

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It felt good to have him back in this role.

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It felt comfortable. I guess you could say.

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It did it didn't, And Sam Neil said he's a

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fantastic actor. Is I've always always liked him. He did

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another film, uh, what was it, the Final Conflict. I

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absolutely love him in that in that film, and loved

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him in Jurassic Park. And I was so excited to

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see him back when they announced the Jurassic Park three.

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I think that's what brought me to the theater more

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than anything.

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Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And I think it was a

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good move because that obviously he's gonna put butts in

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the seat knowing that that doctor Grant's back, and he

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really keeps it everything glued together. He's the one that

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drives everything on that island, which obviously why the parents

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wanted him, right.

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Oh yeah, definitely.

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So, I mean, I mean it makes sense and I

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like that, you know, because I think if they had

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gotten another dinosaur expert that we didn't know, like a

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new character. I don't I think I would have hated

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this film.

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Yeah, I don't think the attraction to this film would

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have been as great, especially for us, all of us

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Jurassic Park fans who liked the first two films. I

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don't think we would have been excited to go see

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it without him.

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Yeah. Absolutely, that whole sequence there at the end two

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when he's using the satellite phone and he's trying to

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call Ellie and her son picks it up. You know,

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I thought that was a cool sequence too. He said

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it's a dinosaur man. Yeah, I thought that was a

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cool sequence. By the way, just just for a little,

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uh little trivia here, the kid is obviously sees Barney

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on the TV and he gets distracted by Barney.

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Yeah, so just.

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For a trivia here. Trevor Morgan who plays Eric, his

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first job was on Barney. Oh, I don't. I don't

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know if they did that on purpose. I don't know

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if they did it because Barney Barney's a dinosaur and

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they were kind of just making that connection, or maybe

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but it might have been both, it could have been.

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I don't know. I just thought that was of funny

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him Like God, okay, I just thought that was kind

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of cool. William H. Macy as Paul Kirby, great actor,

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phenomenal actor. Obviously, he very got very famous because of

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er back back in the days on television. I'm gonna

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plug that. I got to meet him and be in

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a film with him when he was in Andersonville in

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nineteen ninety four. So yes, got to throw that plug

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in there every time, because it's not often you get

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to meet high caliber performers like that, and I want

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more of him. I miss William H. Macy.

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Yeah, he's one of those actors. As soon as he

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appears on screen, you know who he is. It's just

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so recognizable, you know, boom, oh, hey it's Sam yep.

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And he's he's good, he's he's great, he's done. Gosh, Tommy,

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those films he's done. He's done so many of them

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I remember. But yeah, I remember most from R and

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he's phenomenal in that series.

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And he's one of those actors that will just dissolve

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into the character. You forget you're watching William H. Macy

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because he's so good at whatever he does, so fantastic actor.

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Well that's probably why he gets so many jobs and

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has been on so many films. Is a very reliable actor.

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You know you're going to get a good performance from him.

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Absolutely, And then playing his wife Amanda Kirby is Tia Leoni.

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I always knew her because she was married to David Coveny,

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because I'm a big X Files fan.

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Right, I forgot about that, yep.

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I always remember the one episode where she actually guess

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appeared in an episode where she played Scully in the

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episode they were making the film about modern Scully.

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Yes, I do. Yeah, I forgot about that as well, because.

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I remember Scully trying to show Tialoney how to run

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in heels, which I thought was hysterical.

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Yeah, you know, she's an actor. We don't hear too

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much our actress, so we don't hear too much about

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it anymore. I don't remember. I don't realize has she

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done anything recently. I'm not sure, not that I think.

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I just remember her most from Deep Impact, which was

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a film that I was excited about because it looked

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like it was great from the trailer, and I was

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so disappointed.

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That wasn't the greatest. I'll tell you.

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So she was good at it.

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He was very good in it. Absolutely. Tiloney's really good

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in everything she does, so I definitely see what David

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the Covidy saw in her. Yeah, great great actress, great actress.

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Of course. We called a little bit about Trevor Borgan

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who plays Eric at Kirby My Michael Jeter as Udeski.

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I always remember him from Evening Shade with Burt Reynolds.

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I forgot about that too, Yeah, that's right, he was

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on that show. Gosh, I haven't seen that show in many,

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many years.

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When you're dropping the ball, you're the TV guy on that.

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I know that's one of those shows. Do they even

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have that on streaming? Gosh, I'm gonna have to look

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at come to think of it. Yeah, i'd like to

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see that again because he was good on that show.

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He was very good in that, and I know we

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lost him a few years ago, wasn't it.

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That's right, Yeah, I do remember hearing about that.

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Yeah. I always always enjoyed watching him and when you

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pop up in guest appearances like this. He didn't have

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a big role in this one, and he gets killed

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by a raptor. But I thought everything he's in he's

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been a very good character actor. But I'm set on

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Evening Shade. That's where I always know him.

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Yeah, yeah, probably his big claim for fame right there,

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that series.

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Yeah, absolutely, John Diale as Cooper, who didn't last very

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long in this film, by the way, No at all.

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Yeah, you didn't have it that big a part.

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No, no, not at all. He's already gone see you later.

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Just just for fodder for the dinosaurs, I guess is

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basically what he became. And then Laura Laura durn obviously

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as Ellie. Obviously nice seeing her back. I know she

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didn't get a very big role in this film, but

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I'm glad they least put her there because obviously Grant

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had to have somebody to call.

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I wonder what was I mean, did they have they

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intended her to be and the full film was she

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not available? I wonder what the story is. I didn't

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see that in my research.

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I don't know. The only thing that I can think

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of because I didn't find anything either in my research.

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The only thing I can think of is if they

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included Ellie and Grant, it would feel at Jurassic Park

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all over again, the first one.

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That well, yeah, I mean yeah, well it still did anyway,

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it did yeah, you're you're right. I still think that

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the benefits would have would have outweighed that, but uh, yeah,

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you're right, I'll give you that, yes, yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely. But yeah. So let's talk about some of

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the background production and insight to this film, wine, because

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there's quite a bit if you do some research.

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Yeah, you know.

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One of the things I found interested and remember the

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poop scene, the droppings they had to get the phone

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out of that, which was disgusting, by the way, yes

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it was. That is fifth that's two hundred and fifty

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gallons of oatmeal. You So, now when you eat breakfast,

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think of that scene.

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If yeah, everyone ever cared much for oatmeal in the

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first place, Now, I definitely don't. Yeah, growth right, Hey

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it worked. I mean it looked like poop.

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It did. It was disgusting.

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What else did you find, Whene, Well, I mean, you

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know other than the usual behind the scenes stuff like

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with the script and things. Well let me let me stick.

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So I did read a lot of people were wondering, going,

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you know, why didn't Spielberg direct this? And this's that

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I'm gonna say for me, that doesn't surprise me one.

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But I never expected him to he's not a big

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never been a big fan of sequels the world. Yeah,

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that's that's the big shock. We were all really shocked

466
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that he did Lost Worlds. I mean, he turned down

467
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:22.799
he turned down Jaws two. He refused to do any

468
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.200
sequel for like E t or you know, Indiana Jones.

469
00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.960
He never really considered those sequels. But so I never

470
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.000
expected him to direct this. Glad they chose Joe Johnson,

471
00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:35.200
which they've always had a good relationship between the two

472
00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:39.039
of them. But you know, it's just I'm just blown

473
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.319
away by the fact that they filmed this and put

474
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:43.839
this together without much of a much of a script,

475
00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:46.160
because that just I can't get. I can't wrap my

476
00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:46.799
head around that.

477
00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.680
I can't either, to be honest with you, I do know.

478
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.759
I think there's a couple action sequences that they borrowed

479
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.119
that were left over from the first two directed part

480
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.799
films that they had story bartered them and didn't use

481
00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.640
them in either film. So they actually used them up

482
00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.599
in think Part three. Since they were already planned out.

483
00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.240
And they went through quite a few drafts, they brought

484
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:05.799
in a few writers. I know there was at least

485
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.759
three times they wrote scripts through them out may have

486
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.720
used pieces here and you know, piece together the final

487
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:12.920
the final bit.

488
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.759
Yeah. One of the things I find interesting in anybody

489
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:17.400
who knows me knows that I love Creature from the

490
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.119
Black Lagoon from nineteen fifty four. But they filmed the

491
00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:25.480
river location is the universal backlot where they shot Creature

492
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:26.359
from the Black Lagoon.

493
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.400
Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool.

494
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.359
Yeah, it is when I learned to say, oh, that

495
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:32.880
makes me appreciate that scene even more.

496
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.319
I do know that, you know, Sam Neil, he actually

497
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:42.480
had two offers. He actually turned down the first Lord

498
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.160
of the Rings films to do this film, and that

499
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:49.680
really surprises me. I don't know. I guess I guess

500
00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:51.680
if I had the choice between doing Lord of the

501
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.920
Rings and coming back with my character, I guess I

502
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.559
probably would have made the choice. But still, yeah, way,

503
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:58.920
that had to have been a hard decision to make.

504
00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:00.960
You know. And when you're when you're talking about the

505
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.680
casting of this film, I went and looked to see

506
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:08.039
who was all potential for this film of other actors,

507
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.880
and man, it is a laundry list of names. I'll

508
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:13.559
just give you the laundry list here and I'm not

509
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.440
gonna see who they're playing but stellin Scars Guard Steve

510
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:20.960
with Simmy, Tony Shaloub, Gabriel Byrne, Ray Liota, Robert Patrick,

511
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.599
William Sadler, Mark Harmon, Chris North, Stephen Lange, Liam Neeson,

512
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:31.640
Andy Garcia, Matthew Broderick, Kate Blanchett, Sharon Stone, Lisa Kudro, Sarah,

513
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:36.240
Jessica Parker, and Brookshields were all considered for this film.

514
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.960
And most of those names I think would all have

515
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.359
done a very good job at any of these characters,

516
00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:43.319
because they're all That's a really good list of names.

517
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:47.880
Yeah, it really was. And Stephen Summers and John Jandybont

518
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.240
were up for director, but he gave it to Joe

519
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.680
Johnson obviously because of he wanted to do Lost World.

520
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.440
I like both those directors, but I don't think either

521
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:01.319
one of them fit in the franchise sequel type film

522
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.480
like Jurassic Park three. I think they made the right decision.

523
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.319
I do. I do. And Steven Summers had Mummy anyway,

524
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:07.400
didn't the Mummy Returns.

525
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.480
Yeah, he was doing just before this. Yeah, I heard

526
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.440
he was a paint of the butt to work with,

527
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.279
so I'm not sure how him and Spielberg would have

528
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.039
got along with each other.

529
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:21.559
Well, probably why he didn't get the job. Yep, I'm

530
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:23.359
sure that probably happened that we just didn't see he

531
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.359
was behind the scenes, you know. Yeah, goodbye. Another thing

532
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.559
I would like to think about you, as you know,

533
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.359
I love talking about the director of photography because without them,

534
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.480
we wouldn't have a film, we wouldn't have the perfect

535
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.279
lighting scenes that we have. H This was Shelley Johnson.

536
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.160
He actually was the director of photography for A Greyhound,

537
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:47.680
The Expendable Two, Captain America, The First Adventure Surprise, Surprise, yep,

538
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.119
The Wolfman Again, Surprise Joe Johnson, Hildago again, The Last Castle,

539
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.279
Teenage Mutant, Ninja Turtles, Secret of the Ooze Wayne.

540
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.799
Yeah, well you know, hey, not wrong with that.

541
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.920
No, not a thing. Shelley Johnson is also an award

542
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.519
winning painter whose work has been shown at the Ventura

543
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.960
County Museum as well as galleries and national shows.

544
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.640
Really, yep, you know that now that I didn't know that.

545
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.119
I didn't. I actually didn't know that. But you know,

546
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.279
being a cinematographer is a real is it's it's an art,

547
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.559
it is, so I can see why you could transfer

548
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.440
some of that, that knowledge that you would know, that

549
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:31.079
that experience to uh, to an actual painting. I like that, Yeah,

550
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:32.240
might seeing some of it.

551
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:33.799
I wouldn't either. I would like to see that. And

552
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.599
you know, a lot of people don't realize. And then

553
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.680
one of the main reasons, the main reason I like

554
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.519
talking about the director photography is because I am a

555
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.759
photographer myself, and I just know what goes into that

556
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.680
to make sure you get the correct exposure. But what

557
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.200
people don't realize is all that lighting you see in

558
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.880
the film. That's the director of photography. He is going

559
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.160
around and making all that light is perfect for his cameras,

560
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.839
not just one camera, all the cameras and make sure

561
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.720
it set right to the tone that the director wants.

562
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.240
I mean, that's hard work, man.

563
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.799
It's an extremely important job. I mean, the director tells

564
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.519
you what's what to put on screen, but the director

565
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.599
of photography makes it looks beautiful. Yeah, and it's it's

566
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.680
so important. You get a bad one, you'll notice it

567
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.839
right away. But you get a great one, you've got

568
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:21.240
a winner.

569
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.319
Absolutely yep. Sure enough. All right, Well, well let's take

570
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.599
another break and we'll come back. We'll continue our discussion

571
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.480
Welcome back everybody where, Wayne and I are a continue

572
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.960
our discussion here in the film by with Joe Johnston's

573
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.240
Jurassic Park three. So, and I think you already kind

574
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:42.480
of talked about your favorite scene from the film, which

575
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.480
is the tear down about it, which was a really

576
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.279
good one. By the way, that would probably be my

577
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.680
first one that I would lean towards. But when I

578
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:56.000
think about Jurassic Park three, my brain always goes to

579
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:02.759
hearing that phone ringing that, yes, the ringtone, and you

580
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.039
forget about the phone, you do when you're watching it.

581
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:06.720
You forget that the phone was handed to the guy

582
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.720
who was eating on from the from the plane, and

583
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.000
you gottad too. And then when you start hearing it

584
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:14.680
ringing again because the kid starts running it because he

585
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.920
hears it, starts running and starts screaming for his mom

586
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.400
and dad. Then they hear him yelling. So they all

587
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.480
meet at that big fence. Your first indicator when they

588
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.680
meeted that fence is something bad's got to be coming,

589
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.759
because why is this fence here? And they're both on

590
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.039
opposite sides of it. Then you hear that when they're

591
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.400
they're talking and hugging and you know, through the fence

592
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.599
and they're like, I heard that silly jingle you have,

593
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.200
and he's like the phone, what phone? And then you

594
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.519
hear the phone ring and then everybody turns and you

595
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.640
just see the spider Saurus just standing there like watching them, like,

596
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.799
what are you doing here? I am? You know, I

597
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.839
love that scene so much. And then all of a sudden,

598
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.440
they're like all cry and they all take off running,

599
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.599
and you know, I mean, I know, it's not like

600
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.440
a big, huge scene because the Teraradox scene is phenomenal,

601
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:58.720
and I just don't want to use that one because

602
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.880
you used it this one. Though. Every time I think

603
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.960
of Jurassic Part three, I think of that scene.

604
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.079
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great scene. It's a lot of

605
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:12.440
these action scenes. The Avery scene is my favorite scene.

606
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.839
I already mentioned that. I think. I love the build up,

607
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.440
I love the cinematography. I think the setting is fantastic.

608
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.480
It's something original or new that we haven't seen in

609
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.119
Jurassic Park. But you know, over the years, the one

610
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.160
thing that I remember the most about Jurassic Park three

611
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:31.400
that I came out of that theater was that Raptors saying,

612
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.480
you know, Alan, I don't know why that has stuck

613
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.559
in my head all these years. I just before I

614
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:43.119
watched it for this podcast. That's the one thing I remember.

615
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:44.960
It popped in my head. Oh yep, that's right. That's

616
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.119
that scene, the dream scene.

617
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:48.680
You know, I've forgotten about that scene. And two it

618
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.640
happened and I think, oh god, I forgot about this.

619
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.119
Yeah. I think I laughed when it happened the first time,

620
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.519
and I laughed again. I think that's just so hilarious.

621
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.799
It is. It is. You would not expect that, obviously.

622
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.559
I mean, we are our dreams are crazy, right, So

623
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.319
I mean they are. It makes sense, So okay, we'll

624
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:11.680
go with it. Well, let's talk about the numbers. So

625
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.039
this film I had a ninety three million dollar budget

626
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.359
and would gross about one hundred and eighty one million,

627
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.359
which is kind of low for a Drassic Park film.

628
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:20.480
It really that is.

629
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.160
Yeah, it would be ranked ninth that year out of

630
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.720
the films throughout two thousand and one. Still not bad,

631
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.720
you know. I mean it doubled its budget really, so,

632
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.440
I mean it did what it needed to do, and

633
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:35.720
I'm sure it did well in the DVD market when

634
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.880
it came out at people I didn't and I still wanted.

635
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.559
That's how I watched it was I you know, I

636
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.680
watched my physical copy, you know, so you know, it

637
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.440
still did a decent amount of money and enough that

638
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.640
the franchise is still going for crime loud, because what

639
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.440
do we got now? Six? Five, six, I think it's seventh.

640
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.119
It's definitely six, going on to the seven. I know

641
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.799
we're going on to the seven because then I will

642
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.279
I will admit I have not seen the last one.

643
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.640
Not missing anything. I did not like the last one.

644
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.680
I did not with Scarlette Johansson. Yeah, that's why I

645
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.720
didn't see it, not like that film whatsoever. I don't

646
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.920
know if I'm starting to get dinosaur fatigue.

647
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.640
That's what I'm getting. I think it just it's no longer.

648
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.759
It doesn't have that that appeal that it had back

649
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.160
with these films, and I think we've just, you know,

650
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:24.720
we see too much of it. It's not anything original.

651
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.720
Back then, you know, the CGI was was breathtaking. It

652
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.599
was it was you know, we'd never seen anything like

653
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.599
that before. It was always getting better and better, but

654
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:33.960
we're used to it now.

655
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.279
Yep, yep. I mean the first traffic park with groundbreaking

656
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:39.559
we were obviously did.

657
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:40.079
That so much.

658
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.559
That was Yeah, it was. I mean when you first

659
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:47.240
saw the dinosaurs in the theater, you were just blown away.

660
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.200
Now it's like, eh, it's no big deal.

661
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.480
It is for dinosaurs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so how

662
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:55.799
I feel. And well, you know, I'm I'm not going

663
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.519
to take away many of the writing and stuff, because

664
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.440
I'm sure that you know, there were parts of it

665
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.519
I really like to the first you know, the other two,

666
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.400
but I just no longer have that excitement to watch it.

667
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.759
I will eventually, I will. I'm sure we'll get around

668
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:09.839
and eventually, eventually when I day when I'm bored, which

669
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.200
is so incredibly rare that you know, it won't happen,

670
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.359
you know, maybe after I retire, But I will watch

671
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.079
them again.

672
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:18.920
You're not missing anythings if you watch it like fifteen

673
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.799
years down the road, You're You're good. You're good, I promise,

674
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.480
you know. I like Dominion. A lot of people didn't

675
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.039
like Dominion, but because you had the whole.

676
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:27.960
Cast from Dress Party, Yeah that was my favorite of

677
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:29.440
the more recent ones.

678
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.519
Yeah. Now, don't get me wrong. I love Jurassic World

679
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:33.839
because it felt new and fresh.

680
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:35.759
Oh yeah, I enjoyed that. It was a great, great

681
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.599
summer film. Great.

682
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.160
Yeah, so it was a nice way to bring back

683
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.720
because you actually have the amusement park now on the island,

684
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:43.599
so like, oh, you guys just don't learn, do.

685
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.920
They don't They don't learn.

686
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.599
But anyway, I mean, it still did well and obviously

687
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.279
the franchise is still going strong. So yep, it goes

688
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.440
to Universal for continuing that I'm moving forward. All right, Well,

689
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.000
we are going to take our third and fun break,

690
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.119
But for you Patreon members, hang on stick with us,

691
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.319
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692
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.720
there who are not a Patreon member, we will be

693
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:13.319
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694
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695
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.359
Go and sign up, and you can listen to the

696
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.680
discussion that we Wayne and I are about ready to

697
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:26.559
have about Don Davis and his score and our three

698
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.319
top picks of Joe Johnson's films that we like besides

699
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:36.880
Jurassic Park three. Welcome back to our other listeners. You

700
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.680
just missed out on a wonderful conversation about Don Davis's

701
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.160
score and our three picks of Joe Johnson's films that

702
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.640
he's directed. Over the years. Again, if you are not

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All right, Wayne, let's do the book. Would you recommend

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this film?

708
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Yes? I would. It's it's not the best of the

709
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the the trilogy, which is what I'm gonna call it,

710
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but it's definitely a fun film, an entertaining film. It's

711
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a popcorn film, you know, you don't don't put don't

712
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think too much in it, just just sit down, enjoy

713
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the film. If you're gonna watch all three of them,

714
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.039
it's it's a perfect, great ending to the trilogy, you know,

715
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I would recommend definitely. Yeah, why not enjoy say dinosaurs.

716
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.000
Exactly, That's what I say. Enjoy dinosaurs. Joe Johnson does

717
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a great job. And the mere fact that this film

718
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was put together as it was being filmed is just crazy,

719
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ridiculous when you think about it, and it turned out decent,

720
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you know, because as we said before, when a movie

721
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is not done with the script and they're filming, usually

722
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those turn out not very well and you do not

723
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like them at all. And this one actually turned out

724
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pretty entertaining, and you don't have to make that much

725
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:54.920
of a commitment. It's only an hour and a half long.

726
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This is true, and it lies by when I watched it,

727
00:34:58.360 --> 00:34:59.960
it was over with before I even knew it. I'm like, wow,

728
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.599
that was a quick Jurassic Park film. Yeah, so yeah,

729
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.719
enjoy it absolutely. I have a physical copy. That's where

730
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I watched it. Wayne. I'm sure you have a physical

731
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copy of it as well.

732
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.039
That's where I watch it. Although I also noticed earlier

733
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today that it's also on AMC Plus. Yep, so it's there.

734
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.719
Peacock I think has it too, because they have it

735
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as well. Yeah, yep, so go go there check it out.

736
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I think they have all of the Jurassic Parks to

737
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be honest with you, so you can go enjoy it,

738
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watch the trilogy. Why not make a day of it?

739
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So that would be fun. What do you think of

740
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What would be your five word synopsis of this film?

741
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Let us know. Go to www dot a film by

742
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podcast dot com to give us your answer, or email

743
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.639
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744
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If we use your five words synoptis on the show,

745
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we'll shout you out an episode and you'll get some

746
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film by swag. You can join us on social media.

747
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You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and x.

748
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We love of interacting with you, sharing opinions, taking your

749
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request for future episodes, and debating great movies. Wayne, thank

750
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you for coming off the bridge at Phaser, set the

751
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.519
stunt and joining me for this discussion of Joe Johnson

752
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:12.679
on Traffic Part three.

753
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.559
Oh, it's nice to come back to Earth and talk

754
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:15.679
about some dinosaurs.

755
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.719
I love it me too. It is always a fantastic time.

756
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I know we've got some more films that you and

757
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I will be involved in here on a film buy

758
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coming up this year, So I look forward to that happening,

759
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and so looking forward to that, looking forward to be

760
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.079
getting back on the bridge for our continuing discussion of

761
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.599
the sixtieth anniversary of Star Trek, where we're talking about

762
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season one Star Trek, the original series.

763
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We still got a lot of episodes to go through

764
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and so we do really good ones coming up.

765
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We do, and we got Strange New World season four

766
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coming up.

767
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.679
Yes, looking forward to that. Can't wait to see what

768
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they bring to us.

769
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.000
Yeah, I'm very excited about it. I know we've got

770
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.559
that Puppet Movie episode. I don't know what that one's

771
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all about.

772
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.559
I'm I'm walking into it with an open mind. It

773
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could be a lot of fun. I love the Muppets anyways.

774
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.320
I do too, but I don't want rapping Klingons every day.

775
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.039
Neither do I, so we'll go with that. I know

776
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our producer Jeff would disagree with us, but that's okay.

777
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He can be wrong. All you're listening to the show,

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