Rob Bowman - Reign of Fire

0:00 A little fun question for you. And I'm not asking for the best. Look at you, Amber asking, I'm asking for favorite, So bearing in mind, I'm asking favorites, not best, I'm curious, what what are your favorite movie dragons or dragon themed movie? Amber? We already know your answer, so let's. Just get it out of the r I mean, and it's fortunate because my favorite is the best, so I get to be right on both friends. The only correct answer is Ferma Thrax pejorative from Dragonslayer.

0:45 Dragon We knew. I knew Dragonslayer. We talked about that on the summer rental episode, you know, and you've talked you You got the chance to talk about Dragonslayer a little more in depth over on docum based seventy seven. Yes, we did a whole episode on the Gloriousness all right. We knew if anyone's been listening to the show that you knew. Amber's answer was gonna be Dragon Slayer. But Garrett, favorite movie dragon or dragon themed movie? What do you got? Well, I'm definitely going to have to go with the subject at hand right now, with a rain of fire. I remember seeing this film as a child in theaters with my uncle he'd gotten some free tickets from Time Warner Cable to go see this movie, and he took me and all my brothers. So, you know, that movie just holds a place in my heart. I've got to tell you.

1:40 I'm glad to hear that. I am definitely glad to hear that. I'm gonna throw a curb watch you guys, because it's technically I'm gonna Break'm gonna I'm gonna pull on Amber Lewis here, I'm gonna break a rule technically a movie. But in nineteen eight three there was this very kick ass animated series called Dungeons and Dragons, which has gotten a little bit of nostalgic popularity over the past couple of years. But I remember when I was a little kid watching that in Tiamatt the dragon, the five headed dragon, like the Goddess Dragon, that thing. You know, she was scary. I mean it was animated, it was a cartoon, but she was kind of a little scary.

2:30 I don't know, tam Matt is my pick. So but Garrett, I like that you mentioned Rain of Fire, So let's talk about some dragons. Let's talk about a film by Rob Bowman. His underrated post apocalyptic dark fantasy film Reign of Fire. Hello and welcome back.

3:19 I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and I'm Garrett Gibson. And this is a film by podcast A little a little bit of a summer break there. Uh, we all got a couple of weeks off. I hope we're all rested. I hope we're all ready to, uh to jump back into the swing of things. Uh. I'll tell you who didn't uh take a little summer break. Our buddies, uh, Dave and Scott and Wayne recently over on our Patreon, they they just dropped out that, uh, that Jaws episode for a film at. Film so much fun.

4:00 Man. I was absolutely floored, because, let's be honest, if you google Jaws podcast, you're gonna get a phone book this year. Yeah. Yeah, it's the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. We knew that was going to happen. And kudos to those guys because they found a way to not only have a very passionate conversation, but they were talking about things that I wasn't even paying attention. I've seen draws like three hundred times, and some of it like they're insightful commentary like some of the things that are bringing up I could not believe. I was like, WHOA, I never I never paid attention to that. So when we got Wayne doing the soundtrack as always. I told Wayne, Wayne, I know you. I know you're John Williams fan. I know you're like the alter He's seen John Williams in concert several times. I knew that was gonna happen.

4:47 I haven't. I told Wayne. I said, you know, Wayne, if you want to talk a little bit about John Walliams, go for it. He was like, he didn't say, he just smiled. I said, I hear it's gonna happen. But uh, listeners, I gotta tell you, this is definitely the Jaws podcast you want to listen to. Yes, it's on our Patreon, but guess what to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Bruce the Shark. It's a free episode. So even if you're not ready, you can still head to our patreon. Go to www dot patreon dot com slash a film by Podcast sign up for the free membership. All you need is an email address and then you can listen to not only that episode, there's we actually we do a couple free free ones every now and then, don't we amber we do. Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have a little. Yeah. I liked it. I think about like when we're kids growing up, Like if you didn't have HBO or Movie Channel, there was like there's free weekends sometimes they do.

5:46 Yes. I didn't care what was happening outside in the in the the world that weekend. I was like, nope, I'm staying in you know, Yeah, you. Can Watchist for the tenth time. Yeah, Oh my goodness. So let's talk a little bit about Rob Bowman. Typically we do uh, you know, like three three facts, a little bit of trivia to a quote. I might have more than one quote. I might have more to say about Rob Bowman, but I wanna you know, this is this guy like I'm fascinated by by the limited amount I found, I'm fascinated so little a little bit about Rob. His father, Chuck Bowman, is a prolific television director, having worked on classics like The Incredible Hulk, The A Team Mcguyver, Murder She Wrote, and the Greatest American Hero, just to name a few. As a boy, he would go to the sets with his dad and act as an assistant crewmember. Now, I just think about that for a second. There's there's that, you know, bring your daughter to work day, bring your kid to work day. You know, it's always fun when you're a little kid to go where mom and dad worked.

6:59 But could you'd you going to film sets and like he's a kid and there's there's there's. Mister t you're hanging out with the A team. You're hanging out I'm working on the crew with the A team. Yeah. I think that's awesome. I mean rightous. Yeah. When he was old enough, he moved to Los Angeles and got a job at Steven Canal Productions, starting off in the mail room. Now, if if you are a fan of eighty eighties television and you know some of those those television shows that his dad worked on, you know who Steven Canal is. Stephen J. Canal we as as we'd call him. So he's going straight to the source. I got a quote for you on setting yourself apart from the competition. Rob said quote, I learned early on that you be successful as a director, you had to have your own signature. Otherwise why hire one person over another. So you got to think he's he's in the mailroom. But he's also going to film school and he's studying. He's got access to four hundred hours of television and he's watching this stuff, just soaking it up to see, like what this director does, what that director does. You know. He's mentioned like, you know, we all have the same tools, but it's fascinating to him to see how this guy uses the same tool as this guy and then different product comes out. So I love I love his attitude about it. He also back

8:32 to his dad, you know, his dad. They have a lot of conversations. He teaches him basically that a good film crew becomes invisible when the movie's actually made. And he had to say this about that quote. What remains are the emotions and the drama of the story and the characters. What remains is the magic. And that's I love that because the behind the scenes crew, the film crew, they're the unsung heroes right there. The guy, the assistant ad and the the best boy, and the grips and all these guys, all these women, men and women, they're all doing this work and if they're doing their job the right way, you'll never know that they existed.

9:16 Right, Yeah, absolutely right, So. Let's talk a little bit about a little a little bit more about Bowman if you'll indulge me. So he worked. He worked at Canal Productions for two years before he leaves to make his way as a director. Amber. He lands a gig directing an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation in its very first season. Like talking about just laying it on your feet. Now, listen, this is what is amazing. Though he shows up two weeks early to study the sets and prep for his episode. He does the one where No Man Has Gone Before, which I know Wayne and Dave and Scott have talked about. Yeah, I think they talked about it in the starter treks on Phaser set the stun our Star Trek pod that happens on Wednesdays. Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry is so impressed with the dailies and Bowman's work ethic he decides to make an appearance to publicly praise Bowman in front of the cast and the crew and Amber, I think you probably know this, but he ends up directing another five episodes that season. He's only twenty seven years.

10:30 Old and he's so good. Like, where No Man Has Gone Before is a great episode. It's it's and handled episod. So well, like it could have gone so easily wrong because you've got Riker and Bricard kind of being jerks through part of it. Yeah, it could really turn a fan off, but he handled it really well. Garrett. At the age of twenty seven, I know I was downtown in bars and clubs and getting up to no good. We did you have the Rob Bowman work ethic or were you, you know, being a typical twenty seven year old. Because I know what I was doing.

11:11 I've got to tell you I was not in there directing heavy hitting episodes of a hit television series. Now, I was out at the bar, hitting the drinks as much as it could. That's a yeah, that's yeah, that's my extent of twenty seven. Yeah. But here's the thing. After seeing a commercial for the pilot episode of The X Files, he talks too his agents says, hey, you know what, I think I want to direct that series. So he does the episode gender Bender, and X Files creator Chris Carter is also so impressed with him he invites him back to direct more episodes. He ends up directing another thirty two episodes of the series and eventually is made a producer.

11:56 So and he directed one of the best episodes. Ever, which is give it to us. Jose Chung's from Out o Space. Oh my gosh, he did. He did out the jose Chung episode. That awesome. I love that one. That is so good. I listen. I know we don't typically dip this deep into the directors anymore. I know we in the first couple of seasons, don't. We'd give you like a whole book report, and we kind of got away from that. But I bring this up because I know later we're going to talk about his fomography. The man it's only done four films, but he has done such an impressive job in the world of television directing that I wanted to kind of point out his origin story and name some of his heavy hitters. So Amber, enough about that. We got to talk about dragons, We got to talk about Rain of Fire. And I know you know this is this is truly an underrated film. You know, it came out I think it finished third now to be fair, it went up against the Road to Perdition and Men in Black two, So you're in good company.

13:00 Eighty million on a budget of sixty million, didn't breathe fire in the theaters as it were. But for those that haven't seen this, maybe they haven't seen it in a while. What can you tell us about rain of fire? So we're in England in the year twenty twenty twelve years after a London underground tunneling project inadvertently awakened dragons from centuries of slumber, and the creatures have subsequently replaced humans as the dominant species on Earth, with the fate of mankind at stake. To surviving parties led by Quinn Abercrombie and Denton van Zan find that they must work together to hunt down and destroy the beasts in a desperate attempt to take back the world.

13:49 I think Christian Bale's Exposition Dump at the beginning that that voiceover Amber, you and I we've talked about this. We're not huge fans of the Exposition Dump. But but him, anybody else here Morpheus in this opening, I mean, who scorches the sky? Knowledge is the only weapon we have left. I'm sorry, but like like kind of seeing like the you know basically that you know the dragons are reawoken in two thousand and two, and over the next eighteen years they have made a big comeback. They've scorched the earth. We found out they're the real reason the dinosaurs got their asses kicked.

14:31 And I did like that detail. That was that's kind of cool, right yeah. But I also this is like two years before Batman begins, and Christian Bale using his own accent is like he could have done the Alfred Pennyworth origin story. Oh gosha. Well it's yeah, and it's shocking too, because you know, I I originally, obviously I remember him from what was this Bilberg movie did when he's a little kid, Empire of the Son. Yeah, he's in that, but you kind of forget, you know, he's a kid. So when he shows up as a as an adult, he's Patrick Bateman in American Psycho and.

15:11 Watching Newsi's and sings. No, I wasn't. I was. You weren't swooning over the page. Fourteen, Amber, I was not swooning over tee uh. But to your point, this exposition, I love, you know the whole You have to understand our past because you decide our future. Only one species is getting out alive. He's it's kind of it's not Yeah, it's an exposition due, but it's almost like it's it's like a living journal that he's passing on to the next generation. I absolutely love how this beginning, how this movie begins, Uh, you know with the young Bail going down. You know, he's going to bring your kid to work day, he's going to go see mom and the ton of l.

15:53 There's apparently no Osha in England because he's just running around with no hard hat getting shut every Hey there and see what's going on. They things are different in the UK. You know, you watch yourself because we've actually we've got a pretty solid uh listening base in the in the UK, So. I never forgot that it was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that in two thousand and two they're looking at the year twenty twenty as this the future. Ye're so far in the future and like things are going to be bad. Man, if only they knew they weren't. For they weren't. Oh we didn't have dragons, but these things are things we got there for a while.

16:39 Hold Castle for sure. Yeah. Uh, I gotta be honest. Uh, And I don't want to jump to casting just yet. But but Bail is showing why he becomes Batman A couple of years later, dude, I mean he's jacked that shot of his lap scaret, like what he's he does not skip chess to back day. Oh no, not at all. The first scene that we see adult Christian Bale and he's down there mining, he is absolutely shredded. And then we get a scene a. Little further in where him and van Zan go back and forth at each other a bit and it's like, yeah, yeah, now I see why you're Batman now.

17:21 But you know, Garrett, you mentioned at the cold Open, you mentioned that, hey, this is your favorite movie when it comes to dragon movies. Absolutely. And here's the thing about Rain of Fire. Sometimes a movie comes out that is really really damn good. You see it, you love it, but because it doesn't get a lot of buzz around it, you're not talking with your friends about it, it kind of disappears, you know, it kind of gets kind of gets lost for a little bit. This DVD was sitting on my shelf. It's been sitting on my shelf since it came out on DVD, and I've watched a himful of times because I absolutely love it. But it's one of those like you kind of forget how many I'm so glad we did it, you know, and I don't you know, I know I had.

18:05 We'll get to this later, you know, when we're talking about Bowman's filmography, but there was a movie I was like, oh, I want to talk about this movie. Oh hey, look, Rob Bowman did Rain of Fire. You know what, maybe I want to do Rain of Fire. And then I don't know, a couple of years ago, dragons just got cool again, you know, Game of Thrones and Mother of Dragons and How to Train Your Dragons and you know, more hobbit movies. I was like, you know what, we're doing Rain of Fire. So I'm glad you guys are with me on this one. Let's take a quick break, and when we get back, we're going to talk about a couple a couple people in this cast. Welcome back.

18:46 We are discussing Rob Bowman's two thousand and two dark fantasy Rain of Fire. So Christian Bale playing Quinn Abercrombie, we were talking before the break. We were talking about his physique. He is definitely pretty jacked in this film. You know that that pickaxe workout, Garrett is something we might have to we might want to google, might want to work put add that into our our repertoire. But here's the thing. His initial plan was for Quinn to look emaciated and frail because there's a commun the community has a limited food supply. You know, they're starving at certain points. So Bail being the guy, you know, and if you guys have seen the Machinists, yes, if you okay, we're gonna cover that at some point. We have to, because it's incredible.

19:33 I think Bood dropped down to what one hundred and thirty five pounds for that role or something. Yeh one hundred and thirty five, hundred and twenty five. Yeah, he's near death in that movie. I don't know how he did that. Well, I know how he did it. He he lived off one apple and cigarettes for like what what it was like three months maybe yep. Yeah, he did that right before Batman again, so he he had like one hundred pounds swing in like six months. So definitely wrecking your bi But he thought, hey, I'll you know, I'll look frail and weak because we're starving. And that plan goes out the window when Matthew McConaughey walks in during pre production. He's been hitting the weights because this you know, Matthew McConaughey amber, he's he's kind of the silly heart throbby guy. You know, he's doing the rob comms. He's a normal looking guy. But Detton van Zann is not normal. He is super soldier. And Bail's like, okay, I'm heading to the gym. It's you know, because they have that fight scene that he knows that's in the script. Well, now that Matthew McConaughey looks like, you know.

20:39 It's interesting because they're two very different physiques. Like McConaughey is very lean, yeah, and very long sculpted almost answer like muscles, and Bail just got like bulked out like crazy. Well, and I think a lot of it comes down to the costuming too, because Bail he's got a lot of these baggy sweaters he's wearing in the movie, so he looks a little bit smaller. And meanwhile, McConaughey, with his shaved head looking like a bad ass, has a sleeveless maybe two tight leather bomber jacket is his go to Garrett. I text you the other day, I's like, I got to have a sleeveless bomber jacket. Where can I get one?

21:25 I think you're at cool points got by ten as soon as you put that bad boy on. Jeff. I'm yeah, I've got the shaved head and I've got the tattoos. All I need to do, and I smoked cigar. So if I can just get the sleeveless bomber jacket, I'm I'm one step closer, I think. But but yeah, I mean he looks twice he like throughout the movie, he really looks twice Baale size, and I think that comes down the costume until they get in the fight, you know, and then you kind of remember, oh wait, put a pick axe in Christian Bale's hand down the tunnels and he's he's the dark Knight. So, uh, Amber, tell me about you mentioned the accents. It's it's kind of nice to hear the accent Bail's performance as the leader of this community. What do you think?

22:07 I love the two sides of his character. Right after you see him, you know, digging away working at this tunnel, he has a chat with someone and he walks past these guys taking a break and he just gives them a look and they all just jump up, like oh God, and immediately go back to work. He doesn't have to say anything, he doesn't growl, he doesn't look very threatening, but it's clear that like, this is serious and we don't have time to be just sitting around. So you have that side of him, and then you have I'm jumping ahead to my favorite scene with him and Gerard Butler and putting the kids to bed and telling him a bedtime story. That's like the greatest scene in the movie.

22:53 And so you have like total marshmallow on one hand, and then he's willing to push people to you know, protect the community. On the other he's he's a he's a solid leader. This is the guy you want in the in the Apocalypse. You want you want Quinn making decisions. And he's humble too, because throughout it he's he's not trying to be the boss. He never himself that he's the boss. Someone always puts him forward as the boss. Yeah, even when even when someone's trying to get you know, pick pick food early, you know, off off off cycle, and he you know, it's a community, it's not a prison.

23:33 You know, He's like, hey, you know, you gotta let the seeds germanate. We all got to pitch in, We all got to do the right, what's right. Otherwise there's no seeds, there's no there's no food next season, no harvest. So he's smart, he's he's one of these guys where it's like whatever he was doing well, I mean, think about he's a kid. He's like twelve when the Dragon's awakened, so this is the only life he knows. I love I love the fact we don't get Quinn's backstory, but I love the idea that this kid kind kind of was like a John Connor growing up, knowing that he was going to have to this was the way of life, right, Garrett. Absolutely, It's one of those things where you could honestly make a mini series out of what happens over that eighteen year span of time, because it would be such a Terminator John Connor esque post apocalyptic world where he is trying to build a brighter future for not himself, let's say the next generation, because he knows too much is already lost on him and the elders, which is why he tries so hard in that point in time to actually protect the young children and try and kind of stave off starvation and everything along those lines. But I feel like you hit the nail right on the head.

24:48 I think those eighteen years we would have got something truly spectacular, and maybe somewhere down the road we'll get something. But also like it just being up in there and Ed just delivering the final product to us and us seeing what a great leader he did become. Amber HBO Max. Actually I should just call it HBO. Wait is HBO Max again or is it? I think we're back to HBO Max. It is, okay, so the world has you know, we've course corrected. We're back to what makes the world. But the world's moved on or we've gone back to what works Amber HBO Max loves their Dragon pressed eage television. You love that with that kid from Percy Jackson on Disney Over on Disney Plus, Like are you ready to watch like a mini series a limited series on on Quinn Abercrombie learning to fight dragons and not fighting Well he doesn't really fight him, He's just he's just trying to teach you how to kind of avoid him.

25:45 Well I do, here's a work. Like. The one thing that I like about this movie is it's only ninety minutes, so like you're in your out, tell the story and move on with your life. But I do feel like it is to the detriment of the story a little bit, because I would like to know, we need a little more world building. And you don't really know these people that well, Like, you immediately love Christian Bale, you know, he's your hero, and Gerard Butler is playing like one of the only likable characters he's ever played, So that's fun. WHOA. But like everybody else, like you don't know who these people are. They're little kids, so you care. But I would like to know more about them. I'd like to know more about the world that they're living in.

26:29 Anyone that was half listening up until this moment just went on full alert with that Gerard Butler comic. We're gonna, We're gonna, I'm gonna put We're gonna, guys, let's just let's let's get I got him, I got him on the list here. Let's let's let's hold hold on to that one. Let's talk about someone, you know, we talk about bail as a protector, Let's talk about a different kind of protector. Matthew McConaughey playing Denton Van zand I have a I have a thought on this. I want to hear what you guys think. So on the day of his arrival, cast members meet with the assistant director, who tells them, under no circumstances are you to address Matthew McConaughey as Matthew or mister McConaughey, whether you're on set or you're in town having a drink at the pub, no matter what, whenever you see him, if you are going to interact with him, you can only call him by his character name. This method acting stuff.

27:33 I mean, you are not Daniel Day Lewis. There's no way I would have gotten fired off that movie in five minutes because I'm like, there's no way I'm calling Matthew McConaughey by his character name. Now. Has there ever been a situation where you hear one of these stories about actors going method and you're like, oh, yeah, I totally I get it, and I like it, Like. Only only Daniel la Lewis is the acceptable answer in this situation. No one else. Everybody else is just a pretentious asshole when they do it. I think I think of like Jared Leto playing the Joker and being like a psycho, you know. Yeah, that's disgusting. I've got to agree with Amber as well on this one, just because of Jim Carrey and Man in the Moon.

28:17 I mean, he was a complete asshole during that entire. That's another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean if I guess if it made his character no as good as you. Know, Gil what he's doing a hab whatever, he's crazy, shut up. He's the leader of the Kentucky Irregulars, which I love that they're called irregulars because I was like, at first, I was like, why why are the Kentucky Irregulars. It turns out, you know, and our UK listeners know this back in the day, several hundred years ago. Uh, Kentucky was known as as the good hunting area in the New Land the Americas, the Americas as it were. And the term irregular is kind of their word for like militia or not the regular army, you know. I clearly like they're the Kentucky National Guard, but they don't know they wouldn't have a National Guard there, so they they're a regular, a regular soldier. So I love that they're the Kentucky Regulars. I think that's a cool, cool, little nod and they're hunters. They're you know, they're they're dragon hunters.

29:30 That so his crew. I absolutely love it. I love when they come rolling in and Garrett, I think you and I talked about this once before, uh not on an episode, but sometimes like you have a you have a pretty cool quote, or you have a go to quote, and over time you just assume that it yours and people call you out and they're like, oh man, that's I like, that's a cool that's a cool phrase. For twenty years, I've been saying, we look, we can do it easy, or we can do it real easy. And I never until watching this, I was like, holy shit, I'm that's man's that's where. Yeah, I stole it stolen from McConaughey. Fun fact, he did not shave his head for this movie. Uh he had already shaved his head, like.

30:20 He wasn't really bald. And I'm like, yeah, there's a there's a book. There's a book. A friend of mine said, hey, man, I think you'd really enjoy this book. It's Matthew mcaughey wrote. It's called Green Lights, and it's not I don't want to say it's a self help book. I don't want to say it's a memoir. It's it's a little it's like an amalgam of stuff. It's like a it's like a game plan kind of a book. It's not but but again not self help. It's just like, this is Matthew McConaughey's story, and this is how he lives his life. And you're kind of like, oh, I want to do some of that stuff. I don't want to. I don't play bongos naked, but I do like what he's where he's coming from. But yeah, he he kind of talked about some insecurities, like he was he noticed he was starting to lose his hair. So this is a point in his career where he's like, maybe I'm gonna do the Yil Brenner thing and I'm just gonna shave it.

31:05 But then, you know, obviously he's got a thick, lustrous, full head of hair now as he's doing wild Turkey commercials and you know, other stuff, driving Lincolns. Yeah, yeah, but this is so off of what he usually does. And Amber, you and I uh, back in May, we talked about Frailty, where he's again he's playing against type. He's not he's not Matthew McConaughey in that movie. He's not the ladies aren't loving him, and he's not smooth, he's he's well, we know who he is. And Frailty, well, you know, go back and listen to our Frailty episode. Bill Paxton directed Frailty Episode. But here Van's ant I feel like it's just another It's one of my favorite Matthew mconaughey rolls. I'll say that. How do you guys feel about it?

31:54 Yea, all right. Honestly, it is one of my fas favorite Matthew McConaughey movies, especially that early on into his career. And I say early on because up until then we'd only gotten like Dayston Confused in a really bad Texas Chainshaw Massacre. Not really a whole lot of you know, yeah exactly, not really. A whole lot of the fool's Gold and things like that that made him a household name in you know, mid two thousands all the way up to about the twenty tens twenty twelve area. But honestly, it was the first thing I actually liked him in Dayston Confused. I was a little too young at the point in time and I gotta tell you, it's still the worst text chainsaw masker I've ever seen. But I would have to rate this, and i'd say my top ten favorite. Matthew kind of hate movies. I don't think it breaks the top five for me.

32:50 We might have to talk top five mcconaughe at some point, because I think this would be a top five for me. You know this, Jake Bergant's and Time to Kill Okay, yeah, Lincoln Lawyer anytime, anytime you're playing anytime he's playing a lawyer, you know it's gonna be a hit. But yeah, but man, the Texas Chanincel Massacre of the next Generation, I'm sure that's a film hymn. And a bad horror movie in their past, Like they've been a lot in order episode and they've got a bad horror movie like but no, like, have you guys even seen True Detective? Like, oh, I absolutely loved it. That is that? That's my number one? Yeah? Yeah?

33:36 All right, well and contact hello, like, well, I we're gonna about this year and I had that miss voice of stepping all over. Follow yours, No you do not if you're if you're gonna talk about Matthew McConaughey being crazy and chewing the scenery as one of his best roles. And yeah, I'm gonna jump out, all right, all right. Well I'm gonna I'm gonna pull you back because, uh, I want to talk about Isabella Scrubco. She's playing Alex Jensen. Now here's the thing. So Swedish model turned actress has a stunning turn as bond girl Natalia Simonova in GoldenEye.

34:22 See, I hated her in that, and I loved her in this. You hated her in GoldenEye. I liked that she was so boring and Golden Eye. But if I'm kad Jensen kind. Of, I mean, listen, there's always you know, when anytime you have more than one bond girl and a grand Granted the villains aren't necessarily bond girls, but they kind of are, you know. And if you're going up against Xena on the top, no one's gonna remember, like, you know, I bet a lot of people are like, oh wait, wait, was she in GoldenEye? Because all you're thinking about is you know, Pierce going after she crushing but after GoldenEye in uh, in two thousand, she's kicking ass on the Mountain in Vertical Limit, which go back and check out our Vertical Limit episode we did. We covered that one.

35:11 But after Rain of Fire, her career kind of falters, and I don't understand why. Like she's got the talent, she's got the looks. What happened to Isabella. I don't know. Maybe she became interested in different things. I mean, she continued working. It's only yeah, I mean I'm looking at it, and I don't know. Maybe she you know, because like some of her stuff before GoldenEye is like foreign stuff. Maybe she don't know, maybe she went back, maybe she went home. I don't know, But I'm just saying I bring it up because i think it's a shame because I really like her. Yeah, I like her in this a lot. Did you you've seen Vertical Limit, right? Yeah? Okay, so she's she's kind of she's kind of the same character, and I mean that in a good ways.

35:54 She is. She kicks a lot of ass, and. Yeah, I'm kind of mad that they didn't give her more to do in the third act, cause you get this great lead up to her being this you know, amazing pilot of this helicopter, and you know, you don't really understand why she and McConaughey are like kind of bonded together, Like I would have liked that backstory. Yeah, I mean how to I mean the Kentucky Regulars, that's that's the limited series. I'll watch you know where they come from, how they. Come how they started heading dragons. That would have been cool. Well, I mean, is there is there? Is there a cooler introduction to a group of background characters that you don't typically care about, but like the Archangels when she when she lands the helicopter and you know, who are they?

36:39 The Archangels? Seventeen seconds it's all you know, that's their average life span when they jump, and you're immediately like, okay, You're like, you're like Quinn step Son, You're like, I want to be an archangel because it's just they're basically they're basically like the Navy Seals of the post apocalyptic dark Fantasy times right now. I've got to tell you re walking this. As soon as I saw the Archangels, I was like, gosh, I can't wait till I'm sorry. I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be that guy. You're not buying any there. They're how cool they are No, no, no, not at all. Like the thing, the net. Shooting the thing was cool. But they they pulled the parachute like.

37:23 The three D model, like three D map of the map, and I just laugh every time. The one guy's like it's like. They're watching it on the screen. His little dot just yeah, it goes away, disappears, and then just like oh okay, there he goes. Man good. I thought you'd be like, oh, they're so cool, like. Isabella absolutely killed it. But yeah, no the archangel Yeah, all right. All right, all right, Lewis, what's up? Gerard Butler playing playing Creek. Now, let's talk about Gerard Butler because you I'm watching him like, we'll be damned, Garrett. You know, you and I were, I think this is like a couple three days, four days ago whatever, and you're like, man, look how young jar Butler is. And I was like, what, huh?

38:19 Completely forgot he was in it. So he's got a small role. Speaking of a James Bond, he has a small role in Tomorrow Never Dies in nineteen ninety seven. He plays Dracula in Dracula two thousand yep. In the year two thousand. Garrett was any good I never really saw it. Now, listeners, we will not be covering Dracula two thousand come October. But a year after Rain of Fire, he gets tomb Raider, Cradle of Life, he does the Michael Crichton movie Timeline, he does Joel Schumacher's The Phantom of the Opera playing the Phantom, and then of course in two thousand and six, he explodes in popularity playing King Leonidas in three hundred and I'm going to tell you if this movie had come out in two thousand and seven, he's one of the two lead roles. I don't know which one I'd be cool with either, but yeah, and I don't know since like I think, I feel like Rain of Fire is what maybe ignited his career pun intended.

39:28 I mean, he's definitely very charming in this he is, and especially his Christian Bale's doing is you know, Batman brooding Alley thing, you know, So he's a lot easier to like. Well, he's very likable, and that's I you know, and I think that's a testament to his his the career that he's going to have where he's playing a lot of likable guys. Amber I will say he's got my favorite quote in this entire film though, Oh exactly. They're standing up on the wall and he's like one thing worse than dragons. Americans. They do come in so obnoxious to like, of course, the Americans are a bunch of jerks like Amber.

40:13 Amber, I wanna I kind of want to pick a fight. What what what character did did he play where he was not a likable guy? Well, he destroyed Phantom of the Opera, Like that movie is garbage. That's he's a phantom. Come on him alone, singing voice. No, No, he wasn't a bad He's not Okay, yeah, he's a phantom. But I'm just saying, like, you're like, he's not likable. He's like he's like a mean guy. Like what Well, and then it's just in that. Movie where he goes after Jamie Fox and ruins.

40:57 Citizen, which. And I don't like three hundred that's like a. Damn, we're pumped the brakes, you're you're, you're you're blurring through these without rebuttal First off. Oh, you're not gonna change with mine. I don't like. First off, law abiding Citizen, which we covered on this on this show. Go back and check out our law abiding citystem episode where or Andrew and I discussed the pros and cons of UH vigilantes in society. I kind of feel like I won that war. But we'll see. Listen, A charming, loving husband and father watches his wife and daughter get brutally sexually assaulted and murdered, and then some slick lawyer lets the guys get away with it, and we're you're not cheering him on for taking justice into his own hands.

41:55 Nope, the rules. Well, so it's what Batman does, but you're not like that. I don't like. I like Superman Batman Present. And you don't like you don't you don't like Leonidas A man who is I just don't like. I just don't like the movie. Like there was nothing about it that I didn't like the way it was shot. I didn't like. It just didn't interest me. Like my son had a great time, he loved it, and I was just whatever. Do you typically like like Frank Miller's work at all? Or just no? Yeah, fair, well. She was.

42:35 Growing up Frank Miller. Okay, but you weren't reading Frank Miller. As I have, and that I like and some of it, some of it I like it. Some of it I don't and the three hundred was something that I didn't like. I will say, however, I did like him as Stoic and how to Train Your Try. She's back on. She's okay, see how she kind of brought up a circle back circle the wagon side and we got a dragon. Okay, yes, we're back on the dragons and a good Gerard Butler movie. There it is. Let's let's not forget. Let's not forget the hard working cop he plays and Denny thieves going after the bad guys. Amber. I have not seen that. I've never even heard of that. It's you know what, it's not for you?

43:16 What about Olympus? I should have called you before I watched that other movie the other day, because you know what movies I can watch? Oh yeah, listen, listeners. Oh what about Olympus has fallen? Because I it's. One of those Diehard the White House. They never turned it on Illy Diehard in the white House. He's right, it's. Die Hard in the white House. He's secret Service agent. And that's I'll try. He's dieharding all over the white House and trying to say. And plus you have Aaron achre playing the most dreamy president of all time and so. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she'll like that one. Yeah listeners. The other day, Amber Amber posts on her social media that she is watching this incredible film that came out last year. It's called Saltburn, one of the best movies of that year. And I immediately was like I heard like the the screeching break sound effect in my brain because I was like, Amber, cannot watch this movie because you've seen Saltburn. You know, there's maybe four, maybe five highly controversial, extremely graphic moments in the movie, and I I was not ready for Amber to to experience that.

44:32 So did you? We never we never finished that converson did you like it? Oh? Oh my god. To be fair, I didn't actually watch the whole thing. I fell asleep and so I missed like several of those scenes. So I just like googled, you know, like the movie spoiler what happens in this movie, and just reading it, I was gagging and I'm like, oh, thank god, I dozed. That, can you? Yeah, I'm not like the very. Beginning in the very end, and I hated both of those parts well, and then I r at the middle and I. Was like, what what of Barry Keegan's finest performances. And having said that, Amber, I would I would like you to not watch it until I until I force you to do the episode.

45:16 In the shar. Listeners look for Amber Lewis to provide us commentary on Saltburn next season. Now, oh boy, all right, let's okay. The background on this film we're getting We're getting off the rails here. U gona be honest, most, if not all, of the background available on the production is exclusively focused on creating the dragons. And I'm not talking about yeah now, and I'll be honest with you. It's not like, oh, here's a couple of fun facts. There's like a ton We could do a whole hour just on the dragons. And yeah, I mean, and I dig the fact that they that they took took it the heart like this, and you know they used real Notice the dragons look real.

46:05 And but did you notice who they based their dragon on and the movie they were trying to copy. Well, go ahead and let us. They straight up said, like, Dragon Slayer is the greatest movie with the greatest dragon, and we're totally making that movie. We want our dragon to be. I'm gonna I'm gonna check the time stamp here. Yeah, I knew before the hour was up she would get that little nugget in if I purposely had left it out. She was like, hold on one more, one more fun fact for yeah. Uh, but I I think it's impressive. Like the biology that they you know, like they looked at like a it was like an African something something beatle that uses uh, some kind of toxic gas, like it kind of spits it and then ignites it, you know.

46:55 So they liked that in the opening when it was like basically ruling and it ignites. Oh yeah, It's like that was super cool. Yeah. Well when he comes out of the cave and his eyes are like bloodshot red, yeah, I'm like, oh, this is good. And and like the fact that they take the time to say, hey, you know these two basically it's like these two glands. It's almost like the bomb in a Diehard with a Vengeance where this one's safe, this one's safe, but if you mix them. Oh, I was thinking of impossible when they have the gum oh yeah. Red light, red light. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the fact that like even like the bull male that when they're fighting him, he does that thing where he kind of like leans and leans himself back, almost like he's like pulling it out of his throat, and then he spits it and it's it's it's like a spray, just momentarily before it ignites. I think this is some of the finest CGI real world practical effects because it's a blending.

47:58 We know that they built like a full scale dragon for like the Dead one, you know, the carcass scene, but I think this is one of the finest moments of real world special effects meets CGI meets some pretty realistic stuff on screen. I'm you know, it holds up. It's twenty twenty five watching this, I feel like it holds up really well. What do you guys think. I'd say for it being two thousand and two, absolutely, it's it's got one of those kind of feels to it that you see And of course I hate comparing it to this because this movie is an absolute masterpiece. But Jurassic Park, I mean, they did a great, you know, model of the Dead one that they get to kind of explore, you see the skin and everything up close, and then the CGI work with it. It's just extraordinary.

48:46 Alongside with the actors. I mean, it's honestly, that's why I loved it. Growing up as a kid, I couldn't tell that there was any bad CGI done in this at all. Ember watching this film, did you catch one scene where, like I, they kind of they cheap down the effects there? I mean, because I couldn't find it. No, And like I loved, like you said, the mix of the practical with the CGI, Like you get great moments like when McConaughey kills the female at the castle and she sprays fire at him and his jacket catches on fire and like he he is literally on fire as he's trying to like get away from her, and then you have a great what you know has to be CGI, but it's so beautiful you don't care. Seeing when the male comes to the castle and he's just sitting on top of it with his wings wrapped around it, like, oh, what a great shot.

49:44 Yep, that that might be the most cinematic shot in the entire movie, and this this movie is filled with them. But that's that moment, that big panoramic view just so you can see his size and just the menace that he has. It's fantastic. Well, and I love just from a storytelling standpoint, like it's set in twenty twenty, but they're at a medieval castle, like fighting a dragon. Yeah, it's you know, what are you gonna do? Let's talk about a. Couple I was just gonna say, in the fact of the matter of Matthew McConaughey's weapon of Choices and axe, I don't know, she's very suiting.

50:30 I'm sad that there is not a Matthew McConaughey action figure for this movie that you know has the axe, has the harpoon gun. You know, anyone any designers from Nick, from Neka or McFarland, if you're listening, can we get some Rain of Fire action figures because they could go to town with that dragon too, Like, give me the dragon, give me, give me a Quinn figure, give me a van Zant figure, give me an Alex figure, you know with maybe she comes with the helicopter. And archangel Wayne on the ground, whatever it may be. Yeah, Oh, let's let's talk. There's a couple of scenes we want to talk about before we decide what the pivotal moment is Amber. Let's start. You mentioned this one, and if it's your pivotal moment. I'm good with that.

51:15 But uh, there's this great moment at the beginning, and you talked about it shows Quinn's vulnerability, shows that he's not this like hardened guy made a steal that's just out to protect him. I love that they're putting on a play for the little kids, which we know as Empire strikes back. Yes, and then the prayer. You know, all right, that's bedtime. They're like no, you know, the kids are like wait, you know next time. You know, I want the I want the Shark movie, I want Lion King. You know. I love that. I love that these guys are putting on plays for the kids. And basically it's just like hit movies from the eighties and nineties. That's that's a lot of fun.

51:59 Yes, that whole scene that to me, like when you say rain of Fire, I'm like, oh, that's the movie where they do that. Yeah, because it's so adorable. Yeah, the prayer, you know, what do we what do we do when we wake? Keep your eyes guys? What do we do when we sleep? Keep on? Yeah? What do we do when we see them? Dig deep? Dig hard, run for cover, never look. Yeah, it's it's it's charming and it's it's a little little heartwarming, but it's also unbelievably scary that this is the these kids, this is their way of life, Like they're praying about not getting eaten by dragons. You know. It's such a great moment like that. That's just it starts off fun with the Empire strikes back stuff ends with a kind of lets you know, like, hey, there's here's the steaks that are in this world. And guess what these little kids are not.

53:00 They're not safe, they're not immune. Just because your little kids doesn't mean they can't get you know, eaten or burnt to a crisp. I didn't I didn't see him, but uh we we mentioned the hit show earlier. Oh yeah, Jeoffrey bra Yeah right, so you saw him the front road. Yep, he's right there. Yeah. I'm wondering do you think that has anything to do with him being in Batman Begins? I wonder he doesn't have any scenes with Christian Beale though, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Well, he's got yeah, he's got the one with the batter ring. I thought that's right.

53:41 That's right, that's right. Yeah, so I thought it was a scene with Commissioner Gordon, but you're right, it was with Batman. This is a great moment, though, Ambers, are you saying this is the pivotal moment for you? When you say this movie like that is kind of what defines this is that they're setting you in this future where this is what these children have grown up with. This is their entire world. They don't know any other world. Okay, all right, but let's see if we garret. Let's see if we can win Amber over with a different scene. Because that's a great scene, it really is. But we're talking about we're not talking about favorite scene. Were talking about pivotal moment. Next one, I want to talk about.

54:22 The Kentucky Regulars arrive and Quinn's ready to tell, you know, turn around, get lost, and Matthew McConaughey gets right up in his face and he's talking about magic hour. You know, they've got great vision during the day, they've got even greater vision at night. But at dusk it's a little misty. They're they're they're they're flying blind. And he's here's what, it doesn't matter at all. That never comes back, that never comes back. They don't wait. Until the London fog rolls in to go attack. Like, well, no, no, the whole the whole point is that he under he learns a little bit about their biology, and he learns that they can be killed, he learns that they can be stopped, and just his whole conversation it's like it'll put chills on you. I don't know.

55:14 I loved I loved the Magic Hour speech. That was fantastic. It's not the pivotal moment. I'm just pointing out because I thought it was awesome. Garrett, I did want to talk about the the vertical mapping, Yes, so, I mean for post apocalyptic tech, this is pretty pretty cool, right. It is pretty cool, honestly, building a three D scale of a map to see exactly how much distance you have to the ground to century wrangle a dragon while free falling. From a helicopter. That's yeah, I've got to tell you, it's pretty damn impressive for post apocalyptic technology. Yeah.

55:54 Well, even the nets like when when when Jar Butler' is like, oh you're gonna shoot obviously you shoot nets at them, you know, like and you think like like like a net, but it's like this like barbarire mesh thing that obviously clos that whole scene is awesome, but it jumps up a notch after the Archangels get destroyed the whole you know, Quinn, you know, Quinn's got to pick up the one vertical and then he's like he's got to race back and now he's the bait on horseback and I love that too. We've got tanks, we got horseback, we got motorcycles. But this is where Matthew McCaughey starts to get a little unhinged, you know, bring her to me, Quinn, she's bringing it down here, Bring her to me, And you're like, what's he gonna do?

56:38 But then you're like, wait, he's he gets that harpoon gun out and you're just like, holy shit, this We're about to see a dragon get get slaughtered. And it's I think it's awesome, absolutely awesome. Definitely an awesome scene, especially like as soon as Christian bo clears the ridge, he fires directly at Christian Bale knowing this thing is right on his ass and just nails it. So yeah, no, it's it's a pretty awesome ending to that scene as well. Like Amber said, and dragon comes over already, Ben harpoon breeze, the fire catches is really awesome. Bahmer jacket on fire and then you know it means it's in. You know, it's not very aliens to me. Yes, I was very excited about it because, like I said before, when the Americans arrive, you're like, okay, these guys are just a bunch of jerks, like, oh god, you know, and so to see them, you know, really you know, soldier opping like.

57:33 They go into work mode, right, yeah, all right, So here's the scene. For me, that's the pivotal moment. All right, I'm gonna try and win Amber over and Garrett. I don't know if this is your pivot moment, and if it's not, you're gonna have to let us know what scene did it for you. But after we killed the dragon, it's party in the castle. Time. We got hendricks blaring. Everyone's drinking some some good some good ale probably hop some good homemade stuff, you know, Irish Irish whiskey, and everyone's just like cheering, and you know, Quinn's walking in and oh yeah, you know, everyone's getting saluted him. You know, it's part of time because these people have not seen what they just saw Van ZANDT coming in and killing the party the way he does. You know, he puts off his hand, he's you know what's he say? Oh yeah, the invY the country that has heroes, and they all cheer, and then he's like, I say, pity the country that needs them yep, and irish.

58:33 This whole scene was so stupid. Oh you right there. These people have been hiding in tone underground for twenty years. They're starving to death. They've never seen anybody kill a dragon. Everybody, let me finish. And this stupid guy like, we don't even know these people. I'm not sad about it. I'm sad, but not sad. Hold On, hold on, I'm gonna put this in perspective for you. No, yes, this guy just watched three of his friends die. I mean he was so flippantly saying, they live seventeen seconds. Hold on, they don't even need a parachute because they're all gonna die.

59:15 You out of control this this episode. But here's the thing. This is such a great moment for McConaughey because as he kills the party, did you guys notice how how how tears like the tears that are welling up in his eyes. As he's talking to these people, he's like fighting back, like he wants to cry, but he's he's mad that they're celebrating while his friends are dead. You know, he's like, hey, we bury our dead at you know, in the morning, at dawn. But he puts it in perspective, you know, one dragging down three people dead. Well, we'll be getting somewhere and say what, I don't know three hundred years he in this moment. First off, like you mentioned the cl New Marines, and they're they're They're there to kick ass and have fun.

1:00:03 It's rolling into town like we're the baddest of badasses. But here's to solve all your problems. Here's the thing they're not. They're not They're not They're not joking around and having a good time, like like the Clonal Marines. And don't get me wrong, the Clonal Marines are awesome. I love we you know, we know we love aliens. But these people are here to do a job and they're not here to celebrate. They're here to kill dragons. They're here to recruit and they take effen. The movie could have been a little longer because I can tell you everything there is to know and like about the Colonial Marines. I couldn't even tell you the names of those other people, and they screamed their names like forty seven times, but I can tell you what it was.

1:00:45 Doesn't matter. They're dead, they you know. But we don't want to celebrate. We don't want to be We're not partying when when three people are dead. I like the fact that if he had showed that he cared about them at all before they died, then maybe. Well they made their choice. I would have felt bad. It's a pivotal moment, amber. No, you know what actually could be the pivotal moment is the next day when this guy who's nobody from nowhere is telling me that he's gonna conscript my guys and take them off to fight dragons. Okay, so are you. Behind? But he may have went a tat over the line.

1:01:29 Hey, so I was so happy when Christia Beale like he stepped up. It's the dragon. No, it's war. War gets the dragons over. You're not the possibly you just showed up yesterday. I mean, we're we gotta make a difference. We have we gotta have the you know, only one species is getting out alive. Don't you remember what Christia Bill told us, You can't hide in the castle and beat the dragons. I don't know. Good so far? Nah you got you gotta go kill him beans in that that's how you do it. Amber Garrett, Garrett, what is the pivotal moment of Rain a Fire? So my pivotal moment of this film would be the entire time Christian Bale is essentially just either taking orders, listening to other people, or just kind of going with a flow. And it's not until Gerard Butler, his best friend, pretty much his brother in this film, ends up perishing when they're trying to save the children, that Christian Bale becomes that leader. So I'd like to think that that is the pivotal moment where he becomes the leader of those people, where he's no longer listening to van Zand's crazy plans. He's actually got this in his own mind of what he has to do now to exact this, and even when van Zand ends up falling, he still carries through what he intended on doing. So I'd like to think that is my pivotal moment, just because it took someone so close to him dying to see that he has to make a decision.

1:02:56 Man, he can't even get through the prayer like the the woman next show has to finish it. Okay, Amber, can we can we agree that Garrett may have something here? Maybe maybe Garrett's got the pivotal moment. He's got a point. I think he's got a really good point. So I'll tell you what I always love anytime there's a there's a chance that there's you know, there's debate for the pivotal moment that that's a good film, you know, So let's take let's take one more break and we come back. We'll wrap it up, all right. So colin audible here, uh you know, Typically we like to say, you know, if someone's unfamiliar with this director, what three films would you suggest they watch? Now, here's the thing. Rob Bowman has directed four features, So I have I'm gonna go van zan on this. I'm gonna you know, the volunt the volunteering section is over. Now it's time for the Here's how it's gonna be. Amber, Here's I'm gonna give you two that they just have to be on your list.

1:04:03 They just have to be. But then we can maybe debate what that third film is gonna be or that third option will be. Let me start you with nineteen ninety three's Airborne. Have you had the opportunity to see this? I'm not okay? Now you both need to see this for a whole host of reasons, amber you more so than Garrett. It was shot on location in downtown Cincinnati. It's a coming of age movie. This dreamy heart throb kid from California. His family gets uprooted, they get moved, they have to move to Ohio. He's a surfer, he's a rollerblayer, he knows nothing about Ohio's way of life, and he's gonna move in with his cousin, who is a very then unknown Seth Green.

1:04:50 Okay, so not cool. Obviously. The kids at school, you know, they're big into hockey and Midwest sports, and they're they're kind of bullies, you know, they're not giving him an easy way to go, one of them being an unknown Jack Black. Oh that's pretty good. Yeah. So anyways, like he wins the girl and he you know, so happens. It's it's basically it's like an a rollerblading movie. Like rollerblading becomes big in like ninety two. This movie The whole thing is all about this race in downtown Cincinnati. So imagine the Flying Pig, only it's on rollerblades and it's like a hundred times more dangerous and it's shot all in like so amber. When you're watching it, you're like, holy shit, A A Charles Holy Share, holy shit, Like you're just picking up all these Some of my friends I used to hang out with are in the movie as extras. It is a fantastic movie. It's a lot of fun. I'll tell you what. We might even end up doing it because this is what I wanted to do, and that's led me to Rob Bowman, and then that led me to Random Fire. So no regrets, but Airborne is a really fun movie. Rob Bowman got the job to direct it. It's his first directorial feature film, and he got the job based on his television work directing Parker Lewis Can't Lose If you guys remember that Parker like the Farris Bueler type TV show. So Airborne you gotta check it out now. Second Choice nineteen ninety eight, The X Files.

1:06:22 Yeah, yeah, right, of course. No big secret how he got this obviously, we talked about he directed thirty three episodes. He was a producer on the television show Amber your thoughts on the X Files movies? I love everything X Files, and my argument was going to be just forget everything else and just do yourself a favor and watch the X Files. See that's why I didn't give you the chance to make that argument. I mean, yeah, you're gonna plenty of seasons. You watch the five. Yeah, but you're gonna watch Airborne. Yeah you will come on now. Third choice, Amber's gonna tell us to watch his thirteen episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation. And I mean, she wouldn't be wrong if if she said that. But Garrett, do you wanna do you want to make a maybe an argument for two thousand and five's Electra the superhero, the superhero fan, the collbook, big fan.

1:07:16 You want you want to make that? Why would you do that? Wait? Give give get? I said, do you want to? He could say no, that movie's garbage and you know I'm watching X Files with Amber, or say hold on, here's what. Uh it's the worst CD I've ever seen in any movie. To follow Rain of Fire with this, I I don't know how, but you know whatever? Man Now, Electra one and nine. I will never rewatch that film again. So I'm going to stay with Amber on this one. The best The best thing about raiinn of Fire or no, sorry, there's a lot of great things about Rain of Fire. The best thing about Electra would be their blatant use of uh the Evanescent song during her training montage. That's that's about it. That's yeah, all right, Amber, we recommend Rain of Fire. Yes, where'd you watch this one? Do you do? You want a copy of it?

1:08:07 Or did you? Did you catch it on Prime? Which not? I rented it on Prime you. Know, not streaming anywhere, not streaming, but you can rent it, right, you can? You the four bucks? Like absolutely, I was not side of it. I watched it like three times in the last two days. I've uh, I've got the dvd, as I said at the top of the hour, has a lot of fun behind the scenes stuff. Just gonna ask any good bonus stuff. Well, if you want to learn about how they made dragons, yeah, you better believe it. There's like four different features for that stuff. Garrett. Your recommendation Rain of Fire, Random Fire? Absolutely, And I will say the DVD does have a few amazing things on there, especially showing how to make the dragons and also just shows how likable of a person Gerard Butler is.

1:08:58 I do have to say. There you go? All right? Well listeners, listeners, what do you think of Rain of Fire? Have you seen this one? What are your thoughts on Rob Bowman? You can let us know on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x. You can check out a Film by Podcast dot com for all of our episodes streaming free. Uh actually you know, links to you know, the streaming platform of your choice, links to our Patreon. It's all there. You can email us at a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. We may just read your response on the show and send you some of Film by swag guys. Glad to be back, Garrett reviving the back to the box office. Uh spoiler free movie reviews. Uh, listeners, you know, if you if you, if you weren't aware, we kind of we kind of took a little bit a break, you know, Dave and I were always doing that, but you know, then phaser sets the stunt kind of got wildly popular and he was needed on the bridge of the enterprise a lot more often so, But Garrett, you know, you're like, hey, let's watch movies, let's let's review him. So Garrett, I know we've had a lot of great stuff. We did F one not too long ago, and we got a whole bunch of other stuff heading this way. So looking forward to to more of that, looking forward to having more of you on the film by show though.

1:10:31 Heck, yeah, you know I'm excited about of course. Back at the box office, it's my favorite time of the week. We just get to go be goofy, have a couple of drinks, check out new flick, and then just let the people know exactly what they should be and what they should not be checking out. Mm hm, see it, stream it or skip it. Amber, not skipping much on the back half. Amber, we got you locked in from like another fourteen episodes this season. This is a ridiculous number. I was. I was looking at the schedule and I was like, oh wow, she's done like fourteen episodes this year already. Oh well, look at that, she's got another fourteen head heading her way. Amber. I know you've got a lot of fun stuff. You kind of hinted at Contact.

1:11:18 I know you and Andrew Blakeley will be covering that one here soon. You have the next couple of months. For my birthday. Yeah, it's like the what the fortieth, the fortieth anniversary of the Carl Sagan novel. So you guys are gonna talk a little bit about You're gonna talk about the movie obviously, Matthew McConaughey movie where he does not have a shaved head or tattoos or smoke cigars. But it's still good, it's still awesome. So yeah, we got a lot of fun ones coming to Amber. I know we're celebrating the fortieth anniversary of maybe one or two nineteen eighty five movies. We did summer, we did Summer Rental, but we got we got a couple of other ones planned and uh, we'll get to them when we get to him. So to all of you out there listening to the show, following us on social media and subscribe to our Patreon, we thank you Amber. Just attacking.

1:12:18 That right here again. I gotta tell you, uh, you go back in time two we did for our nineteen six when we when we revived it for Patreon first well not the first one, but like one of the first ones we did was Mosquito Coast. Yeah, and Amber, you know, i'd heard her on you know, the Documents seventy seven podcast. I was like, told I told him over there. I was like, you guys are not using this this individual to the to the fullest extent. Like she needs to get her, get more of her. So I just, you know, I was like, we stole her. I'm gonna but that Amber is not who you met tonight. That Amber was like that. Amber was like, yeah, you're like. I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing? You're the voice, You're the voice of reason, but you know what our money's worth.

1:13:18 And I don't know. Somewhere between that episode and Jack Nicholson dropping her panties and Witches of Eastwick and this, yeah, she was breathing plenty of fire tonight. But that's what we want, Amber, That's. What we exactly. And I enjoyed it, you know, Garrett