June 8, 2026

Steven Soderbergh - Ocean's Eleven

Steven Soderbergh - Ocean's Eleven

Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s! Are you in or out? Jeff and Amber are definitely all in on Steven Soderbergh's 2001 comedic heist, Ocean's Eleven! They share their favorite scenes and discuss a potential cast for the film that didn't...

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Gambling Good Guys and Blockbuster Part 3s!


Are you in or out? Jeff and Amber are definitely all in on Steven Soderbergh's 2001 comedic heist, Ocean's Eleven! They share their favorite scenes and discuss a potential cast for the film that didn't happen back in 1987!

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We have been discussing the twentieth and twenty fifth anniversaries

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of some of Hollywood's biggest blockbusters this season, and I

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am very excited about today's episode because it's probably one

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of the biggest films of two thousand and one, absolutely

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one of the most popular, and one of my all

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time favorites.

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I need a reason, don't see money? Why do this?

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Why not do it? Because yesterday I walked out of

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the joint after losing four years of my life, and

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you're cold decking teen beat cover boys because the house

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always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes

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the house takes you, unless when that perfect hand comes along,

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you bet big and then you take the house. Been

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practicing this speech little bit did? I rushed it felt

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like I was good. I liked TV things much.

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So let's talk about a film by Steven Soderbergh, his

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two thousand and one heist comedy, which is celebrating its

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twenty fifth anniversary this year, Ocean's Eleven. Hello everybody, I'm

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Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and this is a film

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by podcast. I would have loved to have had ten

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people talking with me today, just for the gimmick, you know,

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but that word. You know, the team's not that big,

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and I'm not about to do that. Well it's yeah,

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we've we've we've expanded quite a bit lately. But uh,

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at the end, I just thought that that's chaos. I'm

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not doing that.

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Yeah, that's a lot of people in the city.

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Yeah. So when you when you when you when you think, Okay,

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I got to talk about Ocean's eleven with just one person, Uh, Amber,

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It's got to be you. This is one of your

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all time favorites.

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Oh my gosh, this Vivie so much.

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It is so good. I'm not even gonna pretend to

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try and knock it. You know. I know last week

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Wayne and I we weren't overly kind to X Men

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the Last Stand, but for for good reason. Uh, and

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we do we we did recommend it, and we do

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we do like it. But I I just I'm gonna

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just gush over this movie for like the next forty

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five to fifty minutes. I'm sure and I and I

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know you will too. So it's okay, Yes, I got

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I got some fun stuff, some some points to discuss

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with you. I didn't tell you about taking taking a

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gamble here because this is Listen. It's a new month

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for us, and the theme this month is gambling, good

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guys and Blockbuster part threes. So you and I are

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going to start things off with Ocean's eleven because it's

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full of some good guys that are They're in the casino.

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They're gambling, they're gambling on this this plan, this heist,

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as it were. Before we get started, let's talk about

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Steven Soderberg for for just a minute. I got I

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got three things you may not know and a quote

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from this guy. And his quote, Amber, is just one

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more reason why you're gonna love this guy. Not that

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you needed another reason, but I mean, right, yeah, all right,

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let me start off with this one. He often works

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with his favorite director of photography, guy named Peter Andrews. Amber.

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Are you familiar with the work of Peter Andrews. Do

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you know what all he's done?

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I'm not great with the crew, unfortunately.

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Well I'm sure.

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That I am familiar, and I just don't know that

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it's it.

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Well, that's that's it right there. The fact is Peter

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Andrews is a pseudonym for one Steven Soderberg. He shoots

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his own stuff and he just goes under under an

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assumed name. I thought that was kind of fun because

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I was like, I don't know Peter Andrews, Like, wow,

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he's he only works with Soderberg, Like what's that about?

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And then you find out why.

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Yeah, it could only be better if it was an anagram.

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Yeah, talk about the uh, the talent this guy has.

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At twenty six years old, he is the youngest winner

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ever of the prestigious Palm Dior.

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Uh.

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When his feature film debut, Sex Lives and Videotape One

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at the nineteen eight nine Can Film Festival. Have you

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ever seen that one?

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Ammer?

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Oh my god, Yes, such a good way. We should

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cover that one sometime. I'd love to talk about that one, Yeah.

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Because I think that's it's to the point where people

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have kind of forgotten about it.

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Yeah, I agree. I was always looking at I know,

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last year Soderbergh was on the schedule for a movie

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he did called Logan Lucky, which is just just a

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fun time. It's a Adam driver and uh, who else Daniel.

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Craig stealing cars.

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Yeah, it kinda is like a comedic heist cars stealing. Yeah,

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there's some stuff going on. We might we might. I

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don't know. We might have to do a couple of

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Soderberg movies. We'll see another thing. Now, he claims this.

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I kind of want to call bullshit when people say

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this kind of stuff. But according to him, he has

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never read a single review of any of his films.

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Oh, I don't think that's true.

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I don't think that's I don't think that you see

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these interviews when when actors will say, oh, I don't

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watch any of my movies, or I don't I don't

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read my reviews. I think they're full of shit. Like

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you tell me, you don't want to find out exactly

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like this minute it hits variety or you know, the

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minute it hits the trades, you're not you're not rushing

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out to find out.

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Well, I know he he reads commentary online, at least

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because he mentioned it in the director's commentary for this movie.

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Okay, Well, he was.

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Comparing like positive things people have said and then you know,

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criticisms that they've made online.

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I like, I like that you mentioned that he did

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an audio commentary for Ocean's eleven Because when discussing the

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importance of DVD extras, Soderbergh had this to say, quote,

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would I growing up like to have had access to

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stuff on DVDs like this? Oh? God, yeah, it's better

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than any film school.

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I think that's funny because I was thinking that when

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I was listening to him earlier.

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Today.

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He gives you a lot of this is why I

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chose this lens, and this is why I'm pulling in

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and pulling out, and this is why I set this

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shot up this way. And if you want to be

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a filmmaker, it's absolutely gold.

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He does great audio commentaries. Uh, Ocean's eleven. It's funny

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you're you're watching Oceans eleven with the Sodaberg commentary and

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that's also got a Ted Griffith, Yeah, the screenwriter. Yeah,

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this is one of the best scripts ever. It's gotta

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be yea because.

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It also left a little flexibility for a little improv too,

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but not a lot, like, not a lot of it

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is on the page.

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Well, And it's funny because that's brought up in the

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other audio commentary for this this Blu ray. I was

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I was watching this with the other audio commentary Amber,

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Oh god, what was that? There is a hilarious one.

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It's packed with really fun anecdotes, it's got some good information,

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but it's Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Andy Garcia.

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Oh my gosh.

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And I'm telling you, when you watch it, it's if

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you watch it with this commentary track, it's like they're

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sitting on the couch with you, because there'll be moments

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when they're talking or like the movie's playing and no

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one's say anything. And like at one point, Matt Damon

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comments on that he goes, this is gonna be one

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of the worst commentary tracks ever because I keep forgetting

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we're here to talk about the movie. But I'm I

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just love this movie and I'm watching it. I can't

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help it. And meanwhile, Brad Pitt is like he's taking

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jabs at Clooney like they all are, but he's he's like, yeah,

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he goes, let's do this like a mystery science theater

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type of thing. That's what I want to do. And

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so it's it's just hilarious, and.

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Now I have to watch it for the fifth time.

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This yeah, and Andy Garcia is right at home with them.

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It's it's a good time. I strongly recommend the commentary

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track with those three fantastic stuff. All right, Amber, let's

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let's let's get this out of the way. Well, I

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should say let's for you, let's get this out of

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the way. Probably your least favorite moment every episode, but hey,

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a lot of people love this, Amber, So I don't

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know what to tell you.

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I don't know some documentation on that.

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I'm talking, of course, about the five words synopsis, so

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real quick. Last week, we always ask our listeners to

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share their five words synopsis at the end of the episodes. Yes,

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for films that we've covered. Last week I shouted out

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several of them on the on the X Men episode,

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they got some fun stuff coming their way, and then

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I challenged everybody, Hey, if you want to try Oceans

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eleven is next. If you want to try doing an

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eleven word synopsis because it's Ocean's eleven, hey send it

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in and if we like it, I'll give you a

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free month of access to our Patreon. So I'm kind

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of curious to see if anyone's going to be rising

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to the challenge here.

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That's a pretty good deal. But it's hard, Like I

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thought it would be easier, but it's not.

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Well, Amber, do you want to give us a five

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words synopsis for Oceans eleven? Or do you want to

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go for the big money and offer up one with

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exactly eleven words?

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Yes, No, I could not. I tried. I do not

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do eleven words. I've got a five word though.

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All right, hey, listen, we've had now, we've had some

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other listeners chiming in saying they've they've been busting people

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for not using five words. So I'm gonna tell you

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right now, if you don't have five you're you're about

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to You're about to go bust in the casino. Yeah,

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so what do you got for us?

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Boys? Steal all the money?

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That works? And you know what? You know why that?

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You know why? I like that. You could have said

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it'd be so many different but I'll tell you why.

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I immediately think of Ocean's eleven. You. You could have

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said crew. You could have said men. You could have

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said thieves. You could have said convicts, you could have

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said con artist. You could have said a lot of things.

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But you chose the word boys. And the fact is

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these guys they're getting together, they're having a great time.

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This is like a good hang kind of a movie.

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So I like that that works.

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Yeah, I often refer to all of you gentlemen that

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I podcast with as my boys, and that's kind of

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the mode that I'm thinking of is though, Okay, it's eleven.

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It works, Amber, Can I hit you up with and

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eleven words?

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I say you go for eleven.

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I went for eleven. I went for eleven because I

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was like, I don't know if Amber is going to

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go for this, but I'll have one ready. How about

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this one? How about this one? Because the house always wins.

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That's okay, let me let me do it, let me

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do it. I tried so hard, let me do it,

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let me do it.

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Okay, Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Sorry, Because the house always wins. That's why they're hitting

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this casino. Yes, exactly eleven words.

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I tried so hard to get that quote.

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I want it.

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Yeah, I couldn't.

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That's that's That's one of the best moments of dialogue

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in this movie, and I wanted to incorporate it without

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just lifting it completely. So yes, there you go it

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all right, listen, listeners, there are there's definitely gonna be

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some better ones that are exactly eleven words, So uh,

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take me hit me up on this one. Yeah, send

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us a send us your eleven word synopsis because I'll

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be happy to give away some well I'm not going

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to give away Terry Benedict's money, but I'll give away

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a flame off the Patreon that that that I can

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do for you. So Ember. After producing both Blind Date

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and a film adaptation of nineteen fifties TV show Dragnet,

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both in nineteen eighty seven, producer David Permitt announced that

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he would next remake the nineteen six rat pack ensemble

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Oceans eleven, and after a few false starts, he gets

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a little frustrated. He decides to move on, but Warner

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Brothers believes the idea has promise provided the right group

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of talent can be grouped together, and that wouldn't happen

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for another thirteen years when Steven Soderbergh gets to work

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with his buddy George Clooney, who he had directed and

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out of Sight, I want to say, in like nineteen

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ninety eight maybe, and these guys start making personal phone

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calls to everyone they want in the film, And I mean,

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this is the ideal time, right because when you've seen

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the original, have you seen the original with.

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A really long time ago? I don't, okay, really remember it?

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Okay, I mean, let's let's call it what it is, though,

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I mean, for its time, it had it had the guys, right,

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it had the group. I mean they were the top

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at the movies, they were the top of music, they

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were they were everywhere. And I kind of think it's

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tough to take a group like that, or find a

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group like that, or a symbol a group like that,

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and and know that, yes, audiences want to see every

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one of these people together, and yes they will have

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amazing chemistry, and yes it will be a smooth, you know, production,

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because everyone's just gonna have a good time. So it's

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it's a gamble, right, And I love the idea that

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these guys are just they're just sitting around saying, let's

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call let's call it this guy, let's call it this look.

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You know, they're just they're just calling their buddies. You know.

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It's it's fantastic. I'll tell you what. Let's take a

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quick break, and when we get back, I'm gonna throw

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you for a loop here because I want to talk

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about who's not in the movie. Oh okay, all right,

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we'll be right back. Welcome back. Amber Lewis and I

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are discussing Steven Soderbergh's Oceans eleven, Amber, there are some

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people who didn't win big because they chose not to

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gamble on Ocean's eleven. Can we talk about some people

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from that? I know normally we talk about, you know,

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everyone in this This cast is too big, so I'll

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encourage you jump in whenever you want to say something

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about Roberts or Clooney or Damon or Pitt or anybody.

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But for right now, I just want to talk about

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who's not in the movie, and I want to I

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want to hear your thoughts on you know, does it

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are we Are we better off? Or is it?

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I mean, I definitely have thoughts about one of them.

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I know, I don't really get the rest.

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Well, let's start off with the first one. So Mark

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Wahlberg is wanted. That's the one, you know. Okay, so

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he's wanted. They want him for the role of Linus,

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you know, Matt Damon's role. He had just worked with

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Clooney on The Perfect Storm. Oh, by the way, go

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back and check out the episode Amber and I did

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for that one. That was a fantastic time talking about

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the Perfect Storm. But Mark Wahlberg decides to turn this

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movie down to go over and do another remake that

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that's happening at Fox with Tim Burton talking about Planet

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of the Apes.

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And thank god, he would not have been good for Linus.

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You don't think it would have been good for Is

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he too tough for Linus because Walburt he's plays like

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a tough guy.

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Well, the thing about Mount Damon that's so good in

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this movie is he's got that that kind of inexperienced.

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Gullible almost he's naive, right, and him where you know.

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They pulled that con on him and he completely falls

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for it. M And I don't think that you would

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have believed that Mark Wahlberg would.

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Have I think it well, I don't think Mark Wahlberg

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could play like the geeky gaming commission guy that the

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con that he does.

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He could have been one of the Utah brothers and

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you know, the Malloy twins.

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Yeah, he definitely could have been one of them. Yeah,

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I just don't see him like ducking in fear from

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from Bernie Mack, you know, dropping right. Yeah, It's unfortunate

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for Warburg because Planet of the Apes was not the

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remake to do it this year. You and I kind

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of talked about this uh earlier, Luke and Owen Wilson,

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they say no to playing the Malloy Twins in favor

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of working with Wes Anderson on The Royal. Tenenbaum's Uh

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another film that you and I covered. Listeners go back

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and check that one out.

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And I think that's a win for everybody. I think

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they would have been funny, but they're so.

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Like they're humors, so dry, like Owen Wilson would have

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been hilarious.

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I don't know about Luke.

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I'll tell you. I'll tell you with all with all

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due respect to I don't know everybody, I'll say this,

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they the Wilson brothers would have been really fun in this.

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But the reason why we're better off is the Malloy

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Twins need a certain degree of white trash to them.

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And and I don't think that the I don't think

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Luke and Olan Wilson can play that. I just don't.

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You know, they're quirky, they're they're the fun dry, like

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you said, dry humor. So I think we're better off here.

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I know why that way. You know, since we're talking

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about the World ten of Bombs, let's not forget Danny

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Glover also turned down Oceans eleven. I think he was

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up for the Bernie mac roll of Frank, and he

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also leaves to go do.

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Gonna be Uh.

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What do you think? Well, I mean he might have

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been Rupert. I don't know, because stories he would have

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been Rupert. If he's, if he's, it's better. Yeah, I

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could see him playing Rupert. That that would have worked

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to or Yeah, Ruben not no, sorry, Rubin the the

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Elliott Gold role.

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Yes, yes he could have.

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He could have done that. That would have been fun.

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But again, I love him in the Royal Ten of Moms,

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so I'm glad that that's the thing.

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Like anybody that was in that movie, I'm not pulling

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him to do anything.

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No, No, that's a perfect cast. Hugh McGregor turns down

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the role of Basher and no surprise here he goes

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off to do Mulin Rouge, which is another film. Yeah,

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you and I talked about that one earlier this season

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with uh with our very own Angela Norris. A lot

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of a lot of playing the the the greatest hits

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here Amber where all these people that said no to

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Oce eleven did movies that you and I covered. So

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that's kind of that's kind of cool. Yeah. Lastly, after

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reading the script and believing the character wasn't quite developed enough,

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Bruce Willis turned down the role of casino owner Terry Benedict. Now,

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that would have been good.

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That would have been very interesting.

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Yeah, he Now he chose to do Bandits with Billy,

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Bob Thornton and Kate Blanchette instead, But according to Andy Garcia,

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he uh Willis said, I don't think this character is

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quite developed, and he passed on it, which worked out

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for him because then, you know, Garcia says, I don't

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know if I was the first choice or the last choice,

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but I was the choice because I got the phone

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call from Stephen and I was happy to take it right. Yeah,

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and he's he's cool. Like. What I love about Garcia

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in this is that I know you have to have

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you have to have a villain, right, we have to.

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You know, if you think about the original Ocean's eleven

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from nineteen sixty, the tag I think, if I remember right,

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the tagline was if it were any other if it

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were any other city, they'd be the bad guys or

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they'd be the villains or something like that. And it's Vegas,

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so Vegas. When you go to Vegas, you know the

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casino that's you're you're the good guy. You want to

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beat the casino. You want to beat the guy. The

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thing about Garcia is, yeah, he's the he's the bad guy,

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quote unquote, but he's still very cool, well mannered, well dressed.

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He says the right things.

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As he's said. There's nothing really wrong with him.

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No, he's he's intimidating in a in a cool way.

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You know. You believe that Julia Roberts is with him,

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you know, and let's let's be honest. Tess is a

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very successful, very intelligent woman, you know, doesn't need She's

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not like a a typical Vegas It's not like she

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was a showgirl that hooked her wagon to a you know,

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a sugar daddy. She's she's a she's a successful woman,

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you know, in the art world, and she doesn't need

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to be with Terry. She chooses to be with Terry,

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and I believe that he can have her, you know.

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Like one of my favorite scenes is the exchange between

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him and Danny at the at the table at the

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dinner table, when they're they're talking to each other, but

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they're not looking at each other. Yes, And as cold

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as Garcia is in that one moment, he's very affectionate.

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He's holding her hand and he's kissing it, and you

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know he's thee Yeah, I guess I put by those tails. No,

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you can keep them, you know. I even love like

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it's almost like they forget he, they forget George Clooney's there.

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George Clooney is the coolest kid in school. He's he

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is the sexiest man alive at this time, and he's

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an afterthought in that moment.

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Mm hmm.

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And I love how he just was like he kind

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of just like Terry Danny, you know, Like I mean,

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it's hard not to like Andy Garcia in this movie,

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you know, as far as like his his you could

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you could.

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Totally see like Tess has a thing for for bad boys,

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and you could totally see how she could just say, well,

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I don't see that side of him, so it's fine.

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Yeah, he's just a businessman.

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I I would be remiss if I just skipped right

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past the the actual cast here. So I wanted to

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give you the opportunity. You know, is there anyone specifically

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you want to you want to talk about right now?

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As far as every.

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Time I watch it, I enjoy someone more than I

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did the last time. You know, it's like this person

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is is the standout, and this time around it was

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Bernie Mack.

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So hard at him.

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Watching this and I've seen this movie like fifty times,

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but his delivery and his facial expressions.

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Oh god, the facial the one that I keyed in

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on this this recent rewatch when he's when he's buying

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the vans and he's holding onto that the cart, the

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salesman's hand. Yes, you know, he's talking about the whole

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moisturizing moisturizer conversation. When he does that weird like he

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like kind of tilts his head like looks in at him,

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his eyes geting a little bit wider, waiting like it.

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It's it's so uncomfortable and it's hilarious in that moment.

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I don't know the guy's name, but did you recognize

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that that salesman By the way, I'll give you a hint.

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I'll give you a hint. He is in another very

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famous Las Vegas movie in a very memorable scene.

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Oh gosh, no, I got nothing have.

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Well, I'll be fair because it not be It's not

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exactly an Amber Lewis movie. But have you seen Scorsese's Casino?

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Oh my god?

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Yeah, okay, okay, so remember remember when de Niro they

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catch the guy cheating at cards and and he asked

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me like, hey, I saw you shuffling chips with with

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both Can you do that with your your left hand?

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He's like, oh no, just my right And then they

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take the hammer and then what they did with my hand? Man,

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that guy is the car salesman. Yeah, that's him. That's him.

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He I guess, I guess you had to quit quit

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cheating at cards. You had to get it rid of

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the job. He never left Vegas, he just went cars. Yeah,

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Bernie Mac, that's why I think we just found a connection.

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You know, we don't get that guy's then it's in

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the same universe. Ocean's eleven and Casino are happening in

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the amber. You just you just dropped the bomb there

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there it is, Yeah, because it's he pulls his hand

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back like it's I mean, I don't think Bernie Mac

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is like crushing his hand. He's not like, no, man,

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he's gripping it. But yeah, I think that guy's still

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he's got trauma from the hammer. Yeah, I think so.

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I think it's so funny that you think Casino is

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not an Amber Lewis movie, because that has one of

467
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my favorite Joe pess like ever when.

468
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.160
He squeezes that guy's head in the vice and he's like,

469
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.279
you don't hop your eye out for that.

470
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:46.640
Charlie for Charlie buckingem you. Joe Pesci is my favorite

471
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.039
scary tough guy of all time because of whether it's

472
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.720
because he is he's scary and Casino like, I'm afraid

473
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.920
of Joe Phi and Casino, but then I'm also I

474
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.960
love that he's the same guy basically. And my cousin Vinny,

475
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.039
you're laughing and you're having fun with him. You know,

476
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:05.160
I got a guy who wouldn't to fight me for

477
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:11.839
two hundred dollars. An identity problem, a dress problem. Oh man, Okay, okay.

478
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.119
Let's okay, pull.

479
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.160
It back together here. Brad Pitt, he had he had

480
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.680
an interesting answer to why Rusty is always eating.

481
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.319
So the first show I heard a couple different.

482
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.920
Well, this comes from bread. Yeah, this this comes straight

483
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.359
from Brad Pitt. Not that not that I had lunch

484
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.400
with him earlier, but he's he's on the DVD commentary,

485
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.480
as I said, he's because they they kind of were

486
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.799
making jokes about it. And he's like, well, so the

487
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.640
first scene that he does, he just happened to be eating.

488
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.039
And on day one, Soderbug's like, you know what, that's funny,

489
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.880
Let's keep doing that. And the fact is, if you

490
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.160
look in every scene, it's not exactly like he's meal

491
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:56.920
prepp and it's not like he's having a healthy meal.

492
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.759
It's always like like gas station food, like he's pulling

493
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:05.680
it off of the roller thing, you know. Yes, and

494
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.720
and Pitt had this to say about that. He said,

495
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.440
you know, the thing is a guy like Rusty is

496
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.039
always on the move. He's always on the go, and

497
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.960
he's basically going to eat whenever there's an opportunity to

498
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.160
eat because he never knows where his next meal is

499
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.799
coming from. And it's typically, you know, where he's passing

500
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.880
by a you know all you can eat a fet

501
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.799
he's passing by the gas dat or wherever he's at.

502
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.039
And that's why he's always got this trashy food. And

503
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.119
you know, and if he doesn't need to, if he

504
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.200
doesn't finish it, and fine, he can he can one

505
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.720
more bite and then he throws it away or whatever.

506
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.440
He's always doing that. He ate the famous scene where

507
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.000
he finds out he's with Matt Damon, he finds out

508
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.279
that Tess is in play, so to speak. Yes, he's

509
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.960
eating shrimp cocktail. He's not a fan anymore. He ate

510
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.759
over forty shrimp cocktail.

511
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:58.000
That's so bad.

512
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.680
I just I don't like shrimp. I don't. I wouldn't

513
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:00.880
need it.

514
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.160
But well, usually actors like they just put it in

515
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.440
their mouth and then they helped yell and there's a

516
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.880
bucket there and they spin it out.

517
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.480
But Brad commits to the bit.

518
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.279
Uh, he does, and somehow he remains chiseled. So maybe

519
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.559
he's onto something. I don't. I don't know. I do

520
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:23.759
not know. I will say this if you had to guess.

521
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.880
And again this is coming from coming from the guys,

522
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.839
from the boys as as as you as you call him,

523
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:31.400
who do you think the who do you think the

524
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.519
guy was on set that everyone wanted to be around,

525
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.160
who had the best.

526
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:39.440
It's got to be Carl Reiner or Elliott, Yes, one.

527
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.440
Of the it's Carl Reiner. You're absolutely right. They said

528
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:47.039
if you weren't, if you weren't on in a scene

529
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.000
and Reiner wasn't in a scene. You were sitting with Reiner,

530
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.680
everyone like he held he was basically holding court off

531
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.000
set so much because he's and it's like he's everyone

532
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.680
telling jokes. Everyone's like they they kind of talk about

533
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.200
like when they first show up and Damon and Peter like,

534
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.000
oh yeah, we all we all got in the room

535
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.279
and we're all telling jokes and then we all start

536
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.920
talking about sports, and then we all just we're all

537
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:14.359
best friends and we all just want to hang out.

538
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:19.400
And basically trailers were just empty at all times because

539
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.240
it didn't matter if you were in the scene or not.

540
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.880
You were on set. You wanted to be there. You

541
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.039
wanted to hang out, and it was that's the vibe.

542
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.759
And you know, Wes Anderson, we talked about that on

543
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:33.119
the on the Royal Tenebaum's episode. Wes Anderson wants that

544
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.519
that vibe on his set where everyone's just it's a

545
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.359
it's a community and these guys are doing it just

546
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.400
because everyone's here. Like, when am I going to get

547
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.920
a chance to hang out with, you know, with Don

548
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.440
Cheatle again, When am I going to get a chance

549
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.519
to hang out with Elliott Gould and Carl Reiner on

550
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.720
the same day at the same time. So they're just

551
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.920
having a blast. And I absolutely love that about this this.

552
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.960
Group, Yes for sure.

553
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.880
And but let's take a let's take another break, and

554
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.359
then I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch you a cast. Since

555
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.880
we're talking about the cast, I'm gonna I'm gonna give

556
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.519
you a different cast. Oh boy, for a different for

557
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.960
a different time. We'll be right back, and we are back.

558
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.079
We're talking about Steven Soderbergh's Oceans eleven celebrating its twenty

559
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.519
fifth anniversary. So earlier, you know, when we were talking

560
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.119
about David Permitt, the producer nineteen eighty seven. You know,

561
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.039
by the way, have you ever seen Blind Date with

562
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:32.039
Bruce Willis?

563
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.480
Like when it came out, I watched Dragnet like a

564
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.200
million times.

565
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:43.960
How do you not eight eighties Tom Hanks comedy Dan Aykroyd,

566
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.680
Like you have to, you have to love that. But

567
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:51.079
this guy, it's nineteen eighty seven and he announces that

568
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.519
he's going after Ocean's eleven and they just couldn't figure

569
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.799
it out. Can I give you my cast?

570
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.119
Oh? This is you're like dream eighties?

571
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.720
Can we do? Can we do? I'm gonna give you

572
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:10.240
Oceans eleven nineteen eighty seven. Oh, I got it, Okay, okay, Yeah,

573
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.880
Because in nineteen sixty it's an all star cast. They

574
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.160
got whoever they wanted because the rat pack was in demand, right, Yes,

575
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:18.559
And I think it's fair to say that in two

576
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.599
thousand and one, all the big stars are in this movie, right, Yes,

577
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.400
Clooney and Pitt and Julia Roberts. Let's not forget Julia

578
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:31.759
Roberts is commanding twenty million dollars a picture at this point. Yes, right,

579
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.400
So they got everyone they wanted. So I'm going to

580
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.400
take you back to nineteen eighty seven, and I'm going

581
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.240
to give you the cast that we could have had

582
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.279
if if I would have been around. I was around,

583
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.559
but the problem was I was eleven, and I probably

584
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:49.440
didn't have the poll in Hollywood that I that I

585
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.599
should have had. But here's what I'm going to give you,

586
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.279
and you just give me a yay or nay if

587
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.400
you will. I got Danny Ocean being played by Harrison

588
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:05.400
Ford nineteen eighty seven. Harrison Ford, Yeah, yeah, Can I

589
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.920
interest you? I know I'm gonna interest you in this one.

590
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.759
This is your girl. Can I give you Michelle Feifirst.

591
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.960
Tests, oh heck, yeah.

592
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:19.079
Okay again it's nineteen eighty seven, Rusty being played by

593
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.200
Tom Cruise. I mean, yeah, you're I see I see

594
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.720
the I see the wheels turning. You're like, yep, I

595
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.880
think I think this is a slam dunk. Eddie Murphy

596
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:28.680
has got to play Frank.

597
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:32.240
Yeah.

598
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.400
The moist Drizer conversation alone is worth it right there.

599
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.319
How about how about Burgess Meredith as Saul doing the whole.

600
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.640
The one last yeah.

601
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.920
One last heist. Can you see the end when they're

602
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:49.799
they're at the fountain and Burgess is the last one

603
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.759
to walk away with a smile on his face. Burgess

604
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.799
Meredith as Saul Bloom, I'm gonna give you Gene Hackman

605
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:57.720
as Ruben.

606
00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.480
Oh I like that?

607
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.920
Yeah, like that? Okay, all right, I'm doing great, all right,

608
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.839
I've got I got three more, or I should say

609
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.760
four more, because I gotta do the Malloy Twins. So okay,

610
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.559
well I'll just jump to them Lloyd Twins, Dan Ackroyd

611
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:13.199
and Bill Murray.

612
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.960
I don't know, I feel like they should be younger.

613
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.400
Well, I was going with like the Luke and Owen

614
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:23.400
Wilson because they're not younger. They're not They're not like Casey.

615
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.079
Yeah, like young, but it would be hilarious.

616
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.480
So I'm not that I was going for this. I

617
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.559
leaned in, well, it's eighty seven. I mean, they're not

618
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.079
that old. This is well, this is just a few

619
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:41.079
years after Ghostbusters. So I'm going for the comedy, you know. Yeah, okay,

620
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:45.880
because I mean, but I'm not saying okay, no, all right,

621
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.400
I think I'm gonna get you with my I think

622
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.079
I'm feeling pretty good about my last two. Again, it's

623
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.800
nineteen eighty seven in the role of Linus Young, somewhat

624
00:34:54.880 --> 00:35:02.559
naive Linus Michael J. Fox, right, yes, yeah, and then

625
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:03.599
he was.

626
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.920
Getting a little he was trying to transition.

627
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.960
Was yeah, he'd done Back to the Future and he's

628
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.760
trying to be it was.

629
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:11.920
Like a secret of my success.

630
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.960
Yeah, exactly. I think I think he did that, Nadye.

631
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:16.920
I'm feeling it.

632
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:22.760
Yeah, eight yeah, okay, all right, last one and again

633
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.639
I'm gonna give you the name because you know whom

634
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:25.920
I'm talking about, Terry Benedict.

635
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:27.559
Okay, okay, So.

636
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:31.760
You got to think if Michelle Pfeiffer is Tess and

637
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:36.400
she left Harrison Ford. You know, if that's our Danny Ocean,

638
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:43.239
who who can command the coolness and the suaveness and

639
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:49.400
the confidence, It's got to be Jack Nicholson, who has

640
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.480
worked with Michelle Pfeiffer.

641
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.159
You know, you know I love Jack.

642
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.559
I know you love Jack. What I'm saying, list in.

643
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.119
The list of people that you would leave Harrison Ford.

644
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.760
Four, Amber Lewis, if you had to leave Parrison Ford,

645
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.360
you couldn't say no, I know what I do it

646
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:06.000
if you.

647
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.000
Have that had he got jail and breaks the art and.

648
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.519
Jack is there and think about this and he's being charming. Yeah,

649
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.360
because by your own account, Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer

650
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.159
had the chemistry in the Witches of Eastwick, which is

651
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.159
a film which is one that we covered. Go back

652
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.440
and check that out, right. They had the chemistry in Wolf,

653
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.760
which Holy Cow is another one that you and I covered,

654
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:35.280
go back and check it out. Any time we're talking

655
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.320
Jack Nicholson and Michelle Peiffer, I like that in the episode,

656
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.280
you're gonna be there. So that's that's my cast for

657
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.239
Ocean's eleven, nineteen eighty seven. What do you think could

658
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.360
they have? Could they have done this? I'm not saying

659
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.719
that I don't want what we got, but we could

660
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.119
have had a nineteen sixty version, we could have had

661
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:52.599
a nineteen eighty seven version, and then we could have

662
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.400
had two thousand and one. Yes, I think this cast

663
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:54.880
would have worked.

664
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.440
I don't hate it. I think you did good.

665
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.000
Listeners listen, well, they are listening because they're listening. But listeners,

666
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.360
we want to hear your choices for a nineteen eighty

667
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.840
seven Oceans eleven and if you've got if you got

668
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.920
some better suggestions, because yeah, give us, give us because

669
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.320
I do agree with you, Amber, I think we could

670
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:14.280
go younger.

671
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.280
Sold on that one. So who else can be the

672
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.039
Maloya twins?

673
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.480
He can be, who can be who's young and funny

674
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.480
in nineteen eighty seven? That's what we got to figure

675
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.440
out because I kind of did this off the cuff.

676
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.039
So I'm hoping our listeners can help us out with

677
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.480
that one, because and maybe they got some better choices.

678
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.159
I don't know, but i'd love to. I'd love to

679
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:36.920
hear their responses. I'd love to hear what they got.

680
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:37.639
Maybe we do.

681
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.960
Maybe we do an Outsider's reunion and we get Matt

682
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.239
Dylan and Ralf Maccia.

683
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.960
Ooh, I'm not I'm not opposed to that, but can

684
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.079
I listen? Macio's kind of my nemesis. Can can I

685
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.920
have with you? Can I have Tommy Howe? Because he's

686
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.920
a buddy I don't even know. I don't like how

687
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.360
do you not like him? He's rob Oh my gosh. Okay,

688
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:03.320
let's keep a good thing.

689
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:07.199
I'm not gonna yeah, you did get already.

690
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.840
Yeah, let's let let's not argue. Let's let's keep this going.

691
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:13.239
I know there's a scene you want to talk about,

692
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:14.840
and there's a scene I want.

693
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.480
To talk about, probably the same scene.

694
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:22.320
It's not no, okay, I'll go first. How about that

695
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:29.079
I chose my scene specifically for the cinematography. You could

696
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.719
argue that it might be a pivotal moment because of

697
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:39.039
a reveal that happens, but really it's the cinematography. For me,

698
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.559
it's the way the shot is set up. And I'm

699
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:50.280
talking about the moment that Rusty confronts Danny about tests.

700
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:55.280
You know, he's just found out here. Okay, now here's

701
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:59.119
and here's why. So the scene starts. One thing I

702
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.280
love about Soda Birn. The camera's always moving in this

703
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.039
movie with this guy, it's never a static shot. So

704
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.760
we are in tight on the vault, you know, we

705
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.159
see someone's backs to us and they're putting away chips,

706
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.079
and then we start to pull out and wait, this

707
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:16.920
are we in the vault. We're not in the vault.

708
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.000
This is like they're setting up because it's our guys,

709
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.320
it's the boys, and they're setting up, like, oh, they're

710
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.800
creating their own vault and what is going on here?

711
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.880
And his camera movement goes past that because we don't

712
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.840
we don't dwell on it. It just we just happen

713
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.920
to catch it because he's dropping little breadcrumbs for us,

714
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.800
like pay attention because this is gonna matter in the

715
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.639
in the third act, right yes, And then Clooney is

716
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.960
pulled away Brad Pitt, you know, he comes up and

717
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.800
let's go come on right now, and they walk like

718
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.760
they're basically they're walking off away from the action, and

719
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.760
the camera follows them. But then the camera finally holds

720
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.000
up and they keep going away and they they basically

721
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.519
the head of the door. It's all backlit. You can

722
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.280
see the casino across the street, so you're kind of like,

723
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.119
what's going on? Like, oh, they're that close. That's where

724
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.599
that's that's their head up, that's their hot their hideout, right,

725
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.559
that's that's HQ where they're putting all their stuff together.

726
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:23.599
And you see Clooney and Pitt almost silhouettes having the conversation,

727
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.760
and he's, you know, he's like, tell me it's not

728
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.760
about her or I'm walking. I'm walking right now, and

729
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.880
Cloney's trying to calm him down. He's like, Hey, I'm

730
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.840
just telling you. If there's you know, you're going up

731
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:36.599
to two things here and if you can't have the

732
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:43.079
one ways, let me remind you. Yeah, exactly. So it's

733
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:44.760
kind of a pivotal moment because like these guys have

734
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.320
been they've been in sync the whole time, and this

735
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.639
whole movie is all about con on top of con,

736
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:55.039
on top of con, And for a quick second, you're like, wait,

737
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.519
is was Cloney conon pit? You know, like why didn't

738
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.280
he tell him from the get go, Like, Hey, just

739
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.960
so you know, Tess is there and here's what I'm doing,

740
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.239
here's what's here's who I'm going after. So I think

741
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.920
it's a little bit of a pivotal moment, but I

742
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.760
truly I just love it for the cinematography because a

743
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.280
camera that's always moving and sodaberg hap he makes the

744
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.239
right decision and says, these guys Russy's trying to have

745
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.960
a private conversation, and that's why we're not right there

746
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.719
on a close up with both of them in a

747
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.719
two shot. We are. We see them and we can

748
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.800
hear them, but we're not supposed to, is what it

749
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:35.440
feels like. And I love that about that scene. Well.

750
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.960
I also, like Soderbergh mentioned in the comment director's commentary,

751
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.719
he doesn't really do a lot of blocking. He doesn't

752
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.920
tell them where to be. He just kind of says,

753
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.000
you know, find a spot where you're comfortable, where you

754
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.440
think your person would be. And so it's interesting then

755
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:00.159
when you get like a big wide shot of the room,

756
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:01.320
like all the guys are.

757
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.199
There, everyone's busy doing something right, you know.

758
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:08.679
And who ends up in the background and who you

759
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.840
know is placed in these different shots is just interesting storytelling.

760
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:18.400
Yeah, well it's funny because like sometimes I know they

761
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.719
talked about this on the audio commentary, like I really

762
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.920
wanted to be in that shot, but I just couldn't

763
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.360
because it was just nothing for me to do or

764
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.119
nowhere for me to go. And Garcia he's he's talking

765
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.079
about he's a call. I'm excited, Here comes my here

766
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.280
comes my big moment with Matt, you know, our big

767
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.239
scene together. And they're talking about how you know, because

768
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.000
the producer of this movie, you know, he's he's kind

769
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.280
of juiced in to Vegas. He's friends with the owner

770
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.719
of the Blagio, so they gave the hotel, the casino

771
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:53.119
gave them a lot of access.

772
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.280
And other casinos did too.

773
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.960
No idea, you can't do that unless your name is

774
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.400
George Clooney and Bratt Pitt. You know, Joya Roberts is

775
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.440
going to be here staying at our hotel for the

776
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.719
whole production. Sounds great. Yeah, you can do whatever you want.

777
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.119
And anyways, Garcia he's like, yeah, they had to close

778
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.000
they closed down the entire VIP parking, you know, on

779
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.519
the front of the building, so that we could shoot this,

780
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.679
and you know, all these whales, all these these fat cats,

781
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:20.440
they're like they're going to the parking garage and they're

782
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.000
not happy about it. But too bad. But it's just Benedict.

783
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:26.800
When we were we're introduced to him, he comes walking

784
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:30.159
in and like ten feet away from him. It's a

785
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.119
blinking and you miss it moment. Matt Damon's walking out

786
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.679
and Matt Damon kind of side eyes him, and then

787
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.599
the commentary they're like, oh, hey, Matt, hey Andy, all right,

788
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.880
see you. Thanks. It's just that's their big scene. That's

789
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:43.880
the only sign they're they're looked on there, they're basically

790
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.440
seen on camera together. It's funny. That's so funny, Amber,

791
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.480
What is what's tell me about the scene that you

792
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.000
want to talk about? Why? Why did you pick the

793
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.280
scene that you're picking. Was it the cinematography, was it

794
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.400
a performance? Was it you No, it didn't piss you off,

795
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.519
So I won't ad nothing.

796
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:00.920
About this movie businesses me off.

797
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:08.880
No, the the acting, it's everything that the way it's lit,

798
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.679
the location, everything about it is just you are just

799
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.840
completely immersed in this moment.

800
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.320
And you kind of forget about everything else that's going on.

801
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.280
And that is the scene with Danny and Tess in

802
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.519
the picassa restaurant.

803
00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.400
Good scene. I scene.

804
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.400
I love that scene so much.

805
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.039
There it's like banter, but they're mad, so it's not

806
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.880
really banter, and everybody's very calm, but there's a lot.

807
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:40.280
Of emotion in play.

808
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.760
Everything about it. I just their chemistry is amazing.

809
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.679
Amber, you are a strong willed woman. What do you

810
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.000
do when you're ex tells you you don't love me?

811
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.679
That's fine, I gotta live with that. You can be

812
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.960
with someone but not him, Like, you know, I'm not joking,

813
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.719
Like that's a that's bold of him, right, and I

814
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.840
love that. She's like, I'm not laughing, you know, it's yeah.

815
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.880
I'm not listening to you at all.

816
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:17.400
However, yeah, you can tell the wheels immediately start turning

817
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.360
because she has to know. You don't own three casinos

818
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.400
in Vegas if you're like a super clean you know, yeah,

819
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.760
I'm just a businessman, you know, kind of guy, Like

820
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.400
there's got to be some shady, ruthless behavior.

821
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:38.320
It opens his hand on her shoulder. That smile she gives,

822
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.719
she knows it's right, and then she's shocked when it's

823
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.280
not Benedict and it's it's it's Danny, and yeah, it's

824
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.840
that's a great moment. I really I agree with you.

825
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.920
That's a that's that is two people at the top

826
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.079
of their game having a having a good scene together. Absolutely.

827
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.679
Yeah, it's so good.

828
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.079
And you know, people try so hard to accomplish this

829
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.559
in movies, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't,

830
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:08.599
but boy when it does.

831
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:14.360
Yeah, what's funny? Just a quick you know about Julia?

832
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.440
You know the story like you know, like I said,

833
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.039
Sodaberg and Clooney are they're basically making phone calls right,

834
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.440
except that they didn't. They didn't call Julia. He sent

835
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.000
her a letter, He sent her a script. Can you

836
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.440
tell can you tell the listeners about that?

837
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:32.239
George Clooney.

838
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.199
They wanted Julia Roberts to do it, and George Clutney

839
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.679
sent her a copy of the script with a twenty

840
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.760
dollars bill paper clip to it and said, I hear

841
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:45.719
you're making twenty a picture. Now would you join us

842
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:46.760
for our heist movie?

843
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.559
And how do I mean, my god, how do you

844
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:48.880
say no?

845
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.960
You can't say no? I mean again, she had just

846
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:54.280
I don't know if she's I think she might have

847
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.880
been the first, the first woman to get twenty million

848
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.199
a picture. It was a big deal back then. So

849
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.679
the fact that he can have a fun joke with it, yes,

850
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.519
because everyone took said that.

851
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.880
You know they're shooting in the Bellaggio. Yeah, and he said,

852
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.280
you know, of course, just off to either side of

853
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.039
the shot is a velvet rope with hundreds of people

854
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.639
watching them. He said, you know, everybody was surprisingly respectful.

855
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:24.199
They were very.

856
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.440
Quiet and you know, didn't take flash pictures and stuff like,

857
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.599
they didn't do anything to disrupt shooting.

858
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:34.719
They were just there. And he said that the biggest.

859
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:39.360
Like reaction response was when Julia Roberts was there.

860
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:40.360
I believe it.

861
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:42.159
I asked, like, it wasn't for.

862
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.440
Brad Pitt, it wasn't for George Clooney, it was when

863
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:45.400
Julia showed.

864
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.719
Up well and rightly. So, uh, I'll tell you something

865
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.079
I was really surprised about. Soderbergh wanted to shoot this

866
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:58.639
in black and white. Warner Brother said sure, on one

867
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:03.280
condition he gets cut in half. And then he said, hey,

868
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.559
color sounds great. Let's well we'll let's let's shoot this

869
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.480
in color. Do you think this would have worked as

870
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.519
a black and white like a you know, if it's

871
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.519
because it's got it like David Holmes score. It's got

872
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.039
this jazzy score. It's a fun score. Does it does

873
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.480
it transport us back or do At that point, I

874
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.079
feel like you almost have to do a period piece

875
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.840
if you're gonna go black and white with this, does

876
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.000
it have to be a period piece to be successful

877
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.039
or could they pulled it off?

878
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.480
I mean, I think it would have worked better as

879
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.599
a period piece, but I don't understand why in a

880
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.239
place like Las Vegas.

881
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.320
Yeah, you wouldn't use all that color.

882
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.440
And it's used to such great effect in this movie,

883
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:47.679
even like before.

884
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:48.400
They get to Vegas.

885
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.199
Yeah, the use of color is really I mean, it's

886
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:57.000
noticeable from the very beginning. So I just think that

887
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.079
would be such a wasted opportunity.

888
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:04.159
Well, and I pose it with the it's not and

889
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:08.480
I listen, I say that with this. I love black

890
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.119
and white cinema. I mean some of my favorite films

891
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.719
are black and white films. So there's a time and

892
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.000
a place, absolutely, and I wish we got more, but

893
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.400
I don't know that this would have been the right palette. Yeah,

894
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.840
I'll tell you what. Let's take one last break, Camber,

895
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:26.079
and then we'll talk some numbers and we'll start wrapping

896
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:32.000
things up. All right, Amber, time to run the numbers.

897
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.760
I know we need. Listen, some of us are our

898
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:40.320
nerds for analytics and factoids like this, so let me

899
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.440
give you a few, a few here, because I am

900
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.760
I am surprised about a couple of numbers. I'm gonna

901
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.239
throw out you, but let me let me give you this.

902
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.760
It was released on December seventh, two thousand and one,

903
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.159
with a run time of one hour in fifty six minutes,

904
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.760
which I again, I'm gonna say, this is a perfect film.

905
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.400
I don't think you need more scenes. I don't think

906
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.119
you need less. I think everything YEP is just ideal.

907
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.639
On an eighty five million dollar budget, it took the

908
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.800
number one spot opening weekend point in thirty eight million

909
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.840
uh and also effectively knocking Harry Potter down to number two.

910
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.400
It would finish out its theatrical run with a whopping

911
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.840
four hundred and fifty million dollars worldwide gross. That's one

912
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:33.440
hell of a payday for Warner Brothers. I mean, heck, yeah,

913
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.039
eighty five million. It brings back four hundred fifty million.

914
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:41.199
And that's not even counting like VHS, DVD, Blu Ray sales,

915
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:46.280
residuals from television, all that good stuff. As far as

916
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.559
ratings go, though, here's where I'm a little surprised. IMDb

917
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.800
score seven point seven out of ten. I feel like

918
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.440
that's that's low. Yeah, that should be higher. Eighty three

919
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:03.280
percent fresh on rw Tomatoes, which sounds about right, because

920
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.239
you've got to be a perfect, perfect film to be

921
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.159
in the high eighties to nineties. For whatever reason, I'm

922
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.079
Rotten Tomatoes a lot of haters. I'm Rotten Tomatoes maybe

923
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.360
seventy four out of one hundred on Metacritic. That's another

924
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.800
one where I'm like, sure, I don't know. And then lastly,

925
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.199
this is the one. This is the one I don't get.

926
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.559
Cinema score that's where the audience is pulled right when

927
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.360
they're walking out of the film. Cinema score grade B plus.

928
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.400
The heck, come on, I would think this is a

929
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.000
At worst, it's an as. Yeah, I would.

930
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.760
Say, I have a list of movies that I consider perfect.

931
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.519
Yeah, it's a very like it's a small list, but

932
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.559
I've got my my list and this is on that list.

933
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:52.440
Like I would I have no complaints.

934
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.639
Time and place. But I'd be kind of fun to

935
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.480
do an episode on the perfect film because I would

936
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.920
think doesn't matter what anyone brings to the table, Like,

937
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.679
I don't know, if you if it's perfect, I think

938
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.360
we'd all have to just immediately say yep, perfect, mm hmm.

939
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.440
You my wheel are turning now, so I'm gonna start

940
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:11.840
thinking about that.

941
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:13.079
We're debate that later.

942
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.119
Yeah, we will debate that. What I want to debate

943
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.880
right now, Let's talk. Someone watches Ocean's eleven and they say, Amber,

944
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.440
this movie is a perfect film, And I get it.

945
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:29.159
This guy he's made some big movies, but I like

946
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:33.119
the underrated stuff. Can you give me a recommendation anything

947
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:40.000
written by, directed by, or possibly starring Steven Soderberg? What

948
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.360
are you going to give them? What? What's your recommendation?

949
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.880
I was tortured by this.

950
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.639
Yeah, and I also am disappointed because I thought isn't

951
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:53.159
produced a choice?

952
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.360
No, I'm sorry, Sorry, it's too easy, because I mean

953
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.880
every every actor nowadays produces everything.

954
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:06.239
Yeah, fair, Okay, well then all right, I'm gonna go

955
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:10.119
directed by and it's a movie that I've never seen,

956
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.280
but I am wildly intrigued.

957
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.639
And I don't know why I've never seen this movie.

958
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:21.119
Okay, I'm you have you had my uh my curiosity,

959
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.320
but now you have my full attention. This is this

960
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:24.840
is gonna be this is gonna be good. What do

961
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:25.360
you got for me?

962
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.599
Because I was thinking about this a lot, but then

963
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:34.119
I thought produced was a thing. So I picked two

964
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.880
different things. But at any rate, I'm trying to look

965
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.559
up what year it was. But he made a movie

966
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.199
called Steven Soderberg directed a movie called The Good German.

967
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.239
The Good German? Yes, okay, wait is that with Is

968
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:49.800
that with Clooney? Yeah?

969
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:57.039
It stars George Clooney and Katelyn Chett and Toby Maguire yep.

970
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.519
And it's World War two, but it's like after the

971
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:07.840
war in Europe, after the for the war in Asia ends,

972
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.880
so it's that kind of Middle era. And George is

973
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:19.519
like a journalist I think, and and Kate Blanchette is

974
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.039
married to a German. I think she's a Jew married

975
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.960
to a German who had to make some tough choices

976
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:27.679
to get through the war. And then I'm not sure

977
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.519
who Toby Maguire is. But it just sounds it has

978
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:35.199
to do with Operation paper Clip, and it sounds really interesting.

979
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.320
I don't know how I missed it.

980
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.519
I would strongly urge you to check it out. I

981
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.079
think you're going to really enjoy it. It's good.

982
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:43.079
It's you.

983
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:45.159
Yes, I recommend.

984
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.079
Mention that you like black and white.

985
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:48.719
It's black and white. It's it is.

986
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.159
Yeah, it's a war kind of kind of thing and

987
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:56.000
uh huh, so that's my recommendation.

988
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.000
We'll all try it together, all right.

989
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.320
I would yeah, I would love I would love watch

990
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.639
that one again. We maybe next season we talk about

991
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.599
that one. I don't, I don't know. We can't. We

992
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.159
can't talk about every Stephen Soderberg movie. I mean, that's

993
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.800
that's that's number three where we're like, oh, yeah, we

994
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.000
should do that one. We'll have to figure it out.

995
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:12.800
Maybe we do a poll or something like that. Next

996
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.280
next season. We let the audience, We let the listeners

997
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.760
decide for us. Uh, I've got one for you, can

998
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:22.079
I can I give you one that our dear friend

999
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:26.719
Angela Norris definitely not gonna watch by herself because you know,

1000
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.599
she's you know, she's a bit of afraid of cat.

1001
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:29.039
Yes.

1002
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.800
Nineteen ninety seven, there's a psychological horror thriller called night

1003
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:42.239
Watch written by Steven Soderbergh, and it stars Youo McGregor,

1004
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:47.440
a young Eugho McGregor. He plays a law student who

1005
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.039
takes a job, like a part time job, as a

1006
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:54.039
night watchman at the city Morgue. And meanwhile, there's a

1007
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.960
serial killer on the loose who's killing women, and all

1008
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.960
these female victims are ending up at his morgue amber.

1009
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.280
It is super creepy. Uh. Nick Nolty at the top

1010
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.599
of his game. You got Patricia Arquette, You got Josh

1011
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.239
Brolin at a time when Josh Brolin he had kind

1012
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.280
of like disappeared from movies and then was slowly popping

1013
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.320
up here and there. This movie is super creepy. Uh.

1014
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:24.000
I mean anytime you have a movie, Oh, it's a

1015
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.559
good one, like not even a.

1016
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.159
Little bit hurt. Yeah, Like mynt have.

1017
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:30.880
You ever watched a Have you ever watched a movie,

1018
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.280
whether it's a scary movie or even a scene that's

1019
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.039
scary and you're you're in the dark and you're watching

1020
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.840
it and like the hair on on your arms or

1021
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:40.559
the back of your neck starts to stand up because

1022
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:42.679
you just feel creeped out, Like you feel like someone's

1023
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.639
in the room with you. Yes, that's what That's what

1024
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.400
Nightwatch does for pretty much the whole movie.

1025
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:54.679
Oh my gosh.

1026
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:56.360
I remember the I remember the first time we watched this. Uh,

1027
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.199
it had just you know, we're we're in our twenties

1028
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:01.559
group of group of us, you know, and we're all

1029
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:04.679
hanging out. Someone's basement. We're watching it, but the you know,

1030
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.280
the girlfriends are there, and it's one of those situations

1031
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:08.639
where it's like I gotta get up and go to

1032
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:10.519
the back, like I gotta go, I gotta go pee,

1033
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:12.760
And you're like, anyone want to come with me?

1034
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:15.360
Yeah?

1035
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.000
Can I turn on every single light in the house

1036
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.079
kind of thing. It's it's a good one. I would

1037
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:19.920
strongly recommend that.

1038
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:21.639
I'm so excited.

1039
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:25.199
Yeah, check that one out. I think you'll That's another one.

1040
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.239
I think you'll like it. So you've got like a

1041
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.559
Soderbergh double feature written by and directed by check the

1042
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.559
check them both out. Amber. No big surprise here, we

1043
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.920
are recommending Ocean's eleven.

1044
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:38.679
Uh.

1045
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:40.960
We're putting all our all our chips in on this one.

1046
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.880
You can rent this one just about every streaming platform

1047
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.280
there is. But I think I think we'll we'll agree

1048
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.360
the DVD or the Blu Ray version. It definitely belongs

1049
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.280
in your library.

1050
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.320
Right oh heck yeah yeah?

1051
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.159
Uh. And if not for any other reason, it's you

1052
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:03.559
get not one, but two really good commentaries on this.

1053
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.880
On this one, I'm looking at it right here, because

1054
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.599
you know you've talked about Soderbergh and we at the

1055
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.480
top of the hour, we're talking about how important DVD

1056
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:15.360
extras are to him Ocean's eleven. This has behind the

1057
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:19.440
scenes documentaries HBO first look, the making of Oceans eleven

1058
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:23.840
and the look of the con the audio commers, the

1059
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.440
audio commentaries that we talked about. It's just it's packed.

1060
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.679
And then there's even like DVD rom stuff because I'm

1061
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.320
holding like one of the original like clamshell DVDs you

1062
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.159
know from Warner Brothers. Yes, it is just packed. It's

1063
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.000
got a lot of fun stuff. But those commentary tracks

1064
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:44.280
are just fantastic. So well, well, what the price of

1065
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.280
a mission right there? Well, listeners, don't cast your chips

1066
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.840
in just yet, because next time on a Film Buy,

1067
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.480
we'll be talking about Martin Campbell's two thousand and six

1068
00:58:55.639 --> 00:59:02.119
relaunch of the James Bond franchise, Casino Royale. If you've

1069
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.079
seen it, and I bet you have, how would you

1070
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.159
summarize it in exactly five words? You can go to

1071
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.800
a Film by Podcast dot com and give us your answer.

1072
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.079
You can email us at a Film by Podcast at

1073
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:17.079
gmail dot com. If we use your five words synopsis

1074
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:19.920
on the show, we'll shout you out on a future

1075
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.599
episode and we'll get you. We'll definitely get you. Some

1076
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.719
of the film by Swag. As always, please join us

1077
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.800
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1078
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.039
We love interacting with you, sharing opinions, taking your requests

1079
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.679
for future episodes, and of course debating great movies. Amber,

1080
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:43.480
I want to thank you. You know. Look, we you

1081
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.719
and I we go way back, and I owe you

1082
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.639
from the thing with the guy and the place, and

1083
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:54.639
I'll never forget at all of you listening to the show,

1084
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.760
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1085
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.400
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