Tiffany Helm Discusses Friday the 13th: A New Beginning

0:00 Hello, everybody, Season's beatings to each and every one of you. That's right, you heard me right. We're going to put a pause and all the goodwill toward men and the holly jolly stuff, because today is Friday the thirteenth, and David, I know you are excited about that. Absolutely, I'm excited about that. Dave, you have talked about Friday the thirteenth before. Obviously, you and I are huge fans of this franchise. I know Friday the thirteenth was your first R rated film, it was, but I'm curious, what was your first Friday the Thirteenth film in the theater? Do you remember? I absolutely remember. I didn't get to see one through four in the theater, so my first experience was Friday Thirteenth, Part five, A new Beginning in the theater.

0:45 That is quite fortuitous today because we have a special guest with us, Dave, that I am so excited about. Obviously, today is a great day to talk about a Friday the Thirteenth film, So why don't we discuss Friday the thirteenth, a new beginning, and let's bring on a very special guest with us, shall we. I'm talking about Tiffany Helm, who fans of the franchise will know as Violet. Hey, guys, David Tiffany, Hello, welcome to a film buy. We are so excited to have you here with us.

1:53 I'm so excited to be here too, So that makes three of us. All right, excellent, excellent, So Tiffany, before we get going on on Friday the thirteenth, in the beginning, we go, we gotta ask, like, what initially inspired you to pursue a career as an actress. Was it? Was it a particular film, was it a director? Was it an actress? Was it a performance? Can you give us a little bit of details. Well, I'd say, I mean it I could just say because it's a family thing, but I'll say it's an actress. It was my mom, right, so you know I was. I guess I'm one of those NEPO babies, lower ranking NIPO baby, but nonetheless, yeah, because my aunt, my dad, cousin's mom, we're all, we're all in the industry. So yeah, I just kind of fell into it. I didn't actually expect to be bitten by the bug or maintain it.

2:49 I mean, I was pretty active in my theater department in high school, but I just I kind of got into modeling as a way of thinking, Okay, so it's that's not really acting. So I get like sucked into it because I also was really afraid of not getting like a real career or something. So but lo and behold, I the bug managed to find me and drag me down into its steps. Well we're glad it did, because I love to see you in front of thirteenth. So very fortunate. I mean, I know we're gonna get into your filmography a little bit here later, but I'm I'm a big fan of all your work, if I'm if I'm being honest, so.

3:31 So dave you. I can't imagine there is someone listening right now that that needs to hear this news. But let us let us know what, give us give us the background on Friday the thirteenth, A new a new beginning, which what is this one about? So just when you thought it was over, he is back in a new beginning. Tommy Jarvis was never able to officially get over the death of his mother in the attack of Jason Vorhees, So now he finds himself arriving at Pinehurst, a youth development center. It is here that Tommy joins others who are struggling with their own mental health issues. Tommy does his best to fit in and do his part to try and get back to himself so he can rejoin society. But once again, people start dying around him, and the nightmares begin repeating itself.

4:14 It seems to tear himself is back, Jason vorhees, and no one is safe. Wait a second, David is your real name? Chat gpt No, Tiffany, I'll tell you right now if you if you catch any of our episodes where where Dave is with us, he is. He is a very talented writer, a very talented uh speaker and director. So he uh he writes, He writes some good uh he writes synopsis that are better than what you'd read on the back of the box. Thank you. Who needs to see the movie, right, Tiffany, I know we talked about Friday the thirteenth. We love Friday the thirteenth, And as I said, this is my first film that of Friday third that I saw in the theater. So tell me a little bit about the audition process for this film. Was there a specific scene that you had read for?

5:11 You know, I get asked stuff like this and it's I don't I mean, because it was a while ago. What are we thirty five years? Yeah, right, so no. I don't remember. What I do remember is that the breakdown for it was for this Pad Benatar new wave type, right, it was. It was I think it was prior to when Love Is a Love Is a Battlefield, came out and choose with crazy hair and outfits. But my agent at the time was getting kind of desperate for stuff to send me in on because I had my I had gone way off of you know, my little cookie cutter blonde self and was really just doing my own thing looks wise, style wise, So I think he was just looking for anything to send me in that was like slightly like oh new wave, oh punk like, even if it was Hollywood's idea of what that was. So I think he just you know, it's like throwing the spaghetti against the wall and hoping something will stick. And they wanted to see me, right, and you know I was not. I was not of the body type that they were looking for. And I think I even made up some story like that I had gained weight for a role or something like that, which was not true.

6:38 But yeah, I don't know, but they I don't. I don't remember what the scene. I mean, Violet, you know, she's she's there throughout the film, but there aren't a whole lot of speaking scene, so it was probably I would imagine that breakfast scene that was read. I'm guessing you know, they don't. I don't think that they didn't have me do a. Death scene so different breakfast breakfasting. I can definitely tell you what. One of my favorite scenes in the movie is the laundry scene where you and Robin are taking the Yeah. Yeah, and Joey's obviously wanting to you to you know, can you have you can have half my candy bar if you want. I just want to help you. Yeah. No, they didn't go over very well, did it.

7:20 But yeah, it's I like the scene, and they use that scene in Fire with Fire, right, I ended up getting these little, these little bizarre residuals from them using that particular scene that's in the background in Fire with Fire. I've seen parts of Fire with Fire. I haven't have you guys seen the whole thing. I can tell you we actually a while back, we covered Fire with Fire on our Patreon for our subscribers and we kind of spoke about the whole Friday thirteenth the New Beginning connection, because it is right there, plain as day. They're not, you know, and I know, I know it's a parent well fire Fire. I know it's a paramount movie as well. But I was surprised at how much they were showing of the film because you know, the kids, you know, they get the girls from the convent and the boys from the prison camp. They get to go to the theater and they're watching Friday the thirteenth, The New Beginning and the laundry scene, well it starts off.

8:14 They kind of show some scenes in reverse because they show Jason going after Pam in the barn with Reggie, and then when the kids come back into the theater, it's it's Violet scene doing laundry with Joey. Oh. I didn't know that, I see. I thought it was just like you know how you there'll be scenes with something on TV that's just kind of and I was like, God, that's really a random, weird, specific scene to pick. But I didn't realize they're seeing like the whole movie. I have to watch it now. Yeah, I would check it out because it is prominently your scene is prominently featured and fire with fire, So you just wondered about those residual checks. That's I think. Yeah, well, I mean now that's where they're coming from. Yeah, but they were like, I mean, they were really small and random, but at first they were actually pretty decent.

8:58 I was like, oh, well that's one way to a living I guess. Yeah. Speaking of Violet, I'm wondering about the background, if if the director was, if there's any information given about her, or did you get to create Violet in a sense you know when you know, I was wondered like, how did how did she end up at pinehurstaff Way House? Well, I think I mean I created that Violet character. I think, you know Danny when when he cast me, he kind of just then got out of the way right and let me do what I need to do. And wardrobe was great. They took me out shopping basically told me, you know, pick out what you want, which is just like whoa yeah, and it's you know, in my hair was was done like that. But they I think that they paid for me to go to a hairdresser and really get it, like super super sharp, because I think it was a little liked I y as I recall and then we got it really nice looking. Yeah.

10:00 I just I just saw her as like the troubled teen and probably you know, violent, some violent outbursts. But the choice that I made too when when Joey's killed was to go very opposite, to kind of go inward. So you know, I never really gave her the specific diagnosis, not like the method actor where I'm like, oh, and what happened. I was locked in a closet, you know, when I was three years old, and nothing like that. I just I just saw her as this trouble team. She probably got into drugs. She probably was caught like stealing stuff and just doing like bored teenager with too much time on their hands and no direction kind of stuff.

10:47 Probably got into a few scraps. And you know, the choice I made with her going really quiet and rocking is kind of the opposite of that, where she's kind of overriding any any violent tendencies or freaking out. That's her way of I mean, that's you know with kids that rock, it's it's a way of self soothing mm hm. So I went with that because I didn't want to. I didn't want to try and like do a competition with Juliet for that scream. She kind of owned the scream. I'm like, yeah, I'm not even going to go into that field. I'll do something different. Well, you know, it's funny that you mentioned it that way. I can see that now with her character. You know everything you said, it really does come off on screen that way when you look at her and you know how she presents herself so well done with that, well.

11:35 Thank you. Yeah. And it's it's like the sorry thing. It's like it's being pushed because it's like, yeah, like I said, I was sorry, and that like comeback from him is one of those little like push things, and like, dude, I don't want to have to kick your ass, but I've been known to do it, so like back down, I said I was sorry. Right, Nice to hear directors they give a little bit of a freedom to their actors to pull that stuff off. You know, I try to do those things when I when I'm directing things. You know, nothing on this kind of budget. Believe me, it's all small scale. But I try to give freedom to my actors because you know, it makes them involved. You know, it helps them on screen because they're the ones who helped create that, so they're going to put more into it. So I like that a lot.

12:22 Yeah, and you got to trust the director too, you know that that has that has the wide vision. So it's you know, it's it's a mutual relationship. You each you each have to trust each other, exactly. But if because well, I mean, like an ocean Sticks there's the classic example, where was it really like turned into uh, what's the story of all the little kids running? And it got a little Lord of the Lies on Ocean Sticks? So the director also like hopefully will be able to reel the actors back in if they start getting a little too mm hmm out there, right, and vice versa that if the director starts getting a little too whip cracking, they can be like, remember you hired me for a reason.

13:11 So right, but let me let me work here. Yeah, exactly. Well, tell me a little bit about the filming location. Was that actual location worth any of that on a studio? No? That was all that was an It was like towards Magic Mountain, that's all I remember. So north of La what I want to say, like an hour north of La it was. It was a little bit of a drive out there. But yeah, was it this little like it doubled as kind of a farm. Was Orange Orchard? Okay, So yeah, the little house that was there, and it was all shot there. Interesting. I always thought that when they used real locations. Yeah, you just get that vibe when it's still tangible, you know.

13:55 Like how many days were you there on set? I don't no. I was there quite a bit when I didn't shoot, and I remember being on there for Halloween, Like Halloween was not a work day for me, but I went out there. Juliett and I were both out there and make up. We did our makeup together, like the makeup Lady. We did makeup and did pictures and I just wanted to be on that set and I'm like, I have to be on that set for on Halloween. So yeah, I don't remember how many days it was. I remember the the death scene was overtime though. I remember it was a late night and I was just like, oh, because I had to re reshoot the whole thing and I was really tired. I remember being really tired and it went really late. But I don't remember how long.

14:45 The scenes are the worst, aren't they. They can go long. They can go long. Yeah, I've been involved with a few of those, and I know it's it can be rough on everybody. Yeah, and you're kind of like, I don't want to any work off for you, thank you, and trying to be authentic and being like tired and wired at the same time. It's hard. Well, you couldn't see that on screens. You did what, Yeah, looked at it. It played, didn't it. Yep. With regard to JULIETT Cummings, who you've mentioned, were there any fun or fun memories on the set that you can you can share with us about about the cast, about the crew. Well, I mean Juliet and I were friends on and off screen, like we hung out. We used to drive in together a lot. But yeah, I shared this story so many times. But yeah, I mean I remember going through those orange orchards and Tom Morga a couple of times would like to hide and jump out from the trees and scare us.

15:48 But yeah, I have to ask, like, was he doing this in costume or just out you know, just as No, I. Think, I mean, I think as Tom, But I mean it's like he had his flight suit on, didn't have the mask and all that but just just to. Be cheeky, that's hysterical. Well done, Tom, Yes, Tom's awesome. I got to do a couple of cons with him, and yeah. Super cool guy, very nice. So I've got to ask you going into this because I know sometimes they hide things from actors on the script so they don't aren't aware of things are going on. So were you and the co stars aware of the twist involving the killer's identity? Oh? Yeah, I mean we we read the script, okay, so yeah, there was there was nothing. I mean, the only time we didn't know that it was a Friday the thirteenth was the original auditions. But yeah, you figure it out pretty quickly when you're like, oh guy hockey mask. Okay, got it, Yeah, got it. So we knew it all.

16:48 We just yeah, as soon as we have that script. But we didn't get the script until like offers were made, right, we just they cast off of reading scenes. I mean, I don't know about everybody else. You know, maybe for Melanie's part or something, they they had her look at the whole script before they cast her. But for the supporting roles, yeah, it was cast off of just sides from the script on the whole script. Tiffany, you have one of the more iconic death scenes in a Friday the Thirteenth film. We we've got a bang song by Pseudo Echo, We've got one of Jason's scariest scene entrances probably uh. And there's some damn good there's some damn good dance dancing here. You know, we've got to talk about a little bit when you when you pull up the clip of Violet's dance where Jason comes in and after, there are hundreds of comments on that YouTube video, people calling out how incredible dance the dancing is.

17:47 There. There's a big there's a big section of the fan base that has a strong opinion that that your character should have lived. It should have been one of the final girls. What what what's your reaction to all the love for Violet. Oh, I think it's great. I mean, that's that and that's those people are the people that come to my table at conventions and want to talk and you know, bring stuff to sign and things like that. But yeah, it's great, And I mean I understand the wanting Violet to be the final girl because she wasn't doing any of the typical slasher movie you know, death, like would be soon to be victims stuff. She wasn't having sex, she wasn't doing drugs, just dancing in a room, so I understand that. But you know, but we all know Melanie did a fine, fine job as the final girl anyway, so all good. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have said no.

18:43 If they had asked me, I'd be like, I'll join in. I'd hop hop in there with her and Reggie. But yeah, it's it's great. The fans are awesome. It's really like crazy phenomena. Do you guys go to conventions. We do all the time. They're amazing, right, like the horror fans. And I've heard it said too that like the the comic con fans are a different breed, more serious or something, but the the the horror fans are these super just warm, kind of like introverted and just you know, just really cool people.

19:29 So I've gotten a few that are like, yeah, you need to back off, you're a little you're taking that shit a little too seriously. But really, with the amount of people that come into those shows and how many of them have been kind of creepers, it's pretty pretty amazing. Just about everybody's really cool there. So it's it's uh yeah, and it just seems to get more and more popular. It's crazy because. Yeah, I gotta tell you we're so we're based on the East Coast and two of the largest horror conventions happen on the East Coast, which we were kind of fixtures at ourselves talking about Horror Hound in cincinna Ohio and then Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky. And I implore you, Tiffany, we got to get you out to one or both of them.

20:14 Yeah. Well I think I did a horror Hound way back when, and my mom just did a horror Hound. She she was just in town talking to the course about about brook you know she. I think she was doing like the panel the whole nightmaent elm Street three panel. Yeah, I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So yeah, if you guys are in with the promoters, please put in a good word and yeah, we need I would love to do both of those shows. And then also when we get around talking about current projects, we definitely want to get the cat Nip cast and director out on the convention circuit just before we release it and maybe after.

20:56 So yeah, we are definitely excited to talk about that one before we move away from this this iconic scene. You know, we know you. You studied dance with Roland Duprix. Is that correct? I love answering this question. Nope, didn't. What I did was I studied at the Rollan du Prey Dance Academy. Okay, so this goes back to early early things that actors do with their resume. You well, I mean it's I think everybody does it when they're just starting out on something. Embellish your resume. You don't want to lie, but definitely embellish and pump up like things that you've done. So that was a thing like I did study at Roland dupre Dance Studio. So tomato tomato, Yeah.

21:44 It works, it works. Yeah. So the dancing question though, was this was this all you? That was all me? That was Actually it goes back to a club that I went to, back when there was the team clubs, the all ages, no alcohol dance clubs, which was a huge thing in late late seventies, early eighties. And this was the Odyssey in West Hollywood and Awesome, Awesome club and they had new Wave night and that was when I mean I had somebod who went to the other nights too, but a new wave night was the one, and there was a guy we had these like there was the dance floor, but then there's these podiums, right, and there was this guy up there doing this dance to remember send me an Angel real life, Oh yep, yep, and is then me an eighties. So he's doing this whole like, and I was like, oh, I'm like, oh my god, he's amazing and the dance is amazing. And anyway, I actually I got to know this guy. He actually ended up moving in with me. That's how seriously I take this dance stuff. But he was a real jerk.

22:58 He was a horrible he had being a really really horrible, horrible person. But I did learn that dance and I actually and this was before I even got connected with him, but it's like I saw him and there were a couple of people at the club who did the dance to different songs, and I went home and practiced in a mirror until I got it right and then launched it at the club and had my own little crowd of people watching it. But I had never done it, like that wasn't a song that they played at the club. I did that. I did the dance to a lot of different songs, like Living in Video was my number one. You remember Transacts, Living in Videos Okay, the Chauffeur, Duran, Duran Thompson Twins, Like I had a few that I did that dance to love Cats. But yeah, with the Friday the thirteenth, they wanted that they needed the song for that scene, and they needed a song that wasn't super popular, wouldn't be hard to get the rights to, and Pseudo Echo was pretty much unheard of at the time I was playing. I played the grooves out of that vinyl, but it was mostly the alternative crowd that was playing that. So that song seemed to work perfectly for that dance, right, It's.

24:25 Perfect, just like it was. It was movie magic where it just everything synced up. And I think Danny was thrilled with it all because I think I probably offered them a few songs, and at that time I was listening to just a lot more just the goth stuff. I was Sisters of Mercy, Bao House, you know, Susie and the Banshees those, But they could get rights to any of those. Pseudo Echo, they could get rights too. You can get. So that's right, and that. Worked so well. It worked better probably than I think. All Oh, a friend of mine started this page on Facebook and offshoot of Violet from Friday the thirteenth dancing to these various songs. Check out this sund Yeah what Facebook Facebook? So it's it's yeah, he's having so much fun with it and he takes requests. Yeh yeah, it's I mean, and it's just a baby page. He's like, I think he just started it for the for the for the past Friday the thirteenth, the same video of Violet from Friday the thirteenth dancing to other songs.

25:40 We will absolutely find that and put that in the show. Notes that it's his pretty cool and there's so many that work really really well. I had some goofy ones I had, like like Salt and Peppa's Push It, which works perfectly. Like there's some that are really funny. Yeah, he Roxy, he just put Roxy music, Susie and the band Cheese, Violent Fems Specimen nice. So he's got a whole bunch of them. Nick Cave, Yeah, it's fun. Definitely gonna check that out, that's for sure, you know, looking at that scene now I'm gonna look at it completely different now from going forward knowing all the work that you put in it, and that was your dance.

26:26 I love that, and now I'm gonna look at it completely different. In watching that movie so well done. Well, thank you well I mean, and this I mean. And prior to that, when they said that I would be dancing, I was too shy. Again, we talked about I actually I just worked with coaching another a fellow actor about making big choices and being committed to big choices, like don't do them half asked. And when I was first you see in the beginning of that scene in the film that I'm doing this like this kind of thing, right, And that's what I thought that they when they said when they changed it from doing exercises in my room to dancing in my room, that's what I thought, like, that's they'll want me to do that. They would never they would never want me to do what I do in clubs. They don't want to see it. That's so It's so I started out doing that and it just felt so awkward and I don't even know how I broached the subject, but I'm like, I do this other there's this other thing that some of us are doing in clubs. Maybe you would like it, or like, I don't know if maybe I started doing it just kind of like and catching their eyes so that they would see me doing it and be like, hey, let's use that instead. I don't know how I brought it in, but it wasn't what originally was going to happen. And I think between them seeing the original dance and that original song, they were like, oh my god, we are saved because like I said, it was a late night yeah, and they you know, when the producer saw me in

27:57 that original makeup, he was like, it is not going to get past the ratings board. We have to do something different. Wow. So I know that you shot a lot of that. Was there an alternate death scene at all that was filmed or was it just the dance and exercise and stuff that changed? Yeah, it was never shot that That original death scene was never shot. No. I think they probably blocked it. So probably I just went in, you know, and kind of we got this the setups for the camera so they could light it, and then they sent me to makeup. And when and again when Mancuso saw the make coup, he's like no, or maybe it was Danny too. I don't know, maybe it was the two of them, but it was it was decided that it would not get past the ratings board, so it was a quick rewrite.

28:47 And that's why they had to use a pillow for my stomach, because they didn't really have time to get the FX guys on it to do something really authentic and real looking. I tell you, sometimes you got to come off at the top of your head sometimes when you're filming, you have to yes, right, yeah. The only thing that bothers me because I saw that scene the other day. It's like, because of the sea saw thing. I was like, well, wait, why aren't I like trying to grab at my neck and pull at his hands as opposed to just letting myself getting picked up. It's like, yeah, because that's that seems like that's something you would do, is you'd be clawing.

29:27 Like, yeah, you would, you would be I'm yeah, on the set, I would changed. You're right, stop hold on, we had an issue here, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what. Guys. Let's let's take a quick break and when we come back, we are going to discuss uh, Tiffany's phomography and television roles. Welcome back, Dave and I are speaking with the lovely and talented Tiffany Helm about her time doing Friday the Thirteenth. A New Beginning. But Tiffany, I would love to talk about some of your other work, if that's okay, Yeah, fire way.

30:12 So, I know back in eighty four you did some stuff in eighty three to two, correct, I think it was like Bare Essence and Likely Stories. Yeah, with Bare Essence, Yeah, that was well. I think it was hard to hold before that. I think then I got my SAG card with the Atariad, the one that I did with Deborah Foreman, okay, and that was she hadn't done Valley Girl yet, but we did the Atari Ad and that's how I got my Screen Actors Skilled Card, And then I think it was then hard to hold because that was my first film, right, And I don't remember if Likely Stories or Bare Essence which one which they all kind of came around. They were very close together. Yeah, yeah, Bare Essence. It's like that.

31:07 That was very exciting for me and going in because it I mean it's a full like it's all a set, right, it is a full set, and it's got like lots of big hot lights and the three camera set up for television and coming in through that door. I mean it's like in that that little scene was exactly how I felt. I mean, it's where she's super super nervous. It's just very nervous, awkward model, right, that comes in and tries to read and it's completely over the top. It was that eighties. I don't know if you guys have seen the clip. I actually have it on my fan page. It's it's pretty amusing, and with Genie Francis, who also worked with my mom on General Hospital, and yeah, hard to hold chasing Rick Springfield around while he's like in a towel, I'm leading myself and this other young woman are leading a bunch of girls as we're chasing around, screaming and likely stories I think was in there too, and I had a little bit more experienced for that. Yeah, and that one I also I have that on I got I dug that out of some archive thing and I have the recording of that. And you want to talk cringey, some really super cringey and inappropriate for today's standards as far as like some racist stuff, and it's just like bbe Besh was in it though, the wonderful,

32:39 amazing bb Besh daughter, Samantha Mathis. And yeah, so I mean I've just I keep getting blessed working with all these incredible people. Yeah, some of those earlier things are a little cringey. Well, so I got to ask, you know, speaking of little cringey, I don't I want to get your take on this, because Dave, you know, we love to be we love fighting these hidden gyms. On two b same year as nineteen, same year as Friday the thirteenth. In the beginning, you're in the Zoo Gang. Which is this. Kind of a movie. So you know, a group of kids rent a rundown building from a I think he was like a wrestler, and you guys are trying to turn into a rock club.

33:22 That's it That news bears open a nightclub kind of while we were calling it. Yeah, and you have what three come out in eighty five, didn't you? Besides part of the thirteenth and that was Ocean STIGs. Was Ocean STIGs too. I mean they obviously shot very much at different times. Yeah, but yeah, so Ocean Sticks I guess probably would have come around at that same time. Too. I'll tell you one thing. Yeah, I'll tell you one that I remember. I was probably maybe twelve or thirteen first time I seen this. I'm watching on USA up all night a movie called Reform school Girls where you're playing you're playing a role. It's it's it's very much like Violet, only only meaner.

34:07 Yeah, Fish is she's nasty. Violet Violet wasn't nasty. No, it's just misunderstood. But Fish is just unpleasant, mean, she's mean. Yeah. Do do do people like when you go to cons I know, I know a lot of people are probably thinking Violet from frid thirteenth five, But do you do you get like the cult classic type of type of people that are like Reform school Girls, Si my sign my poster. A few we get a few Reform school Girls fans, And I do, like I have a few weight by Tens stills from that because yeah, I'm surprised it isn't more actually, because it does have that cult status. And I have a great picture of me, Wendy and Darcy that like, yeah, why would why wouldn't you want that? Right? So, yeah, it was that was an interesting film.

35:01 To work on, and I had had Darcy had she already filmed her role on Friday thirteenth, Jason lives because you got we got we got two adjacent's victims in this movie. We do? Yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know if she had she done a Friday the thirteenth, you'd have to kind of look at IMDb, and again, release dates do not actually sync up with filming dates, but you can probably like figure it out. I don't, I want to. I don't know. Darcy and I weren't close on the set, so I don't know we didn't really have those conversations, or if we did, I don't honestly don't remember. Well, I know you followed this up in what eighty eight and eighty nine you did some TV series? One of those was twenty one Jump Street. Yeah, a very very popular series, I might add. And then Jeff, I know she did Freddy's Nightmares in eighty nine.

35:52 Yeah, so you know Freddy's Nightmares. If if you're wanting to go back and check the series out, both seasons are Avail and plex right now, you know with ads, But Tiffany, you're in season two one called Heartbreak Hotel, where you're you're probably playing the nicest sweetest girl we've seen you play? Do you do you can? You do you remember shooting that one? Yeah? Absolutely absolutely. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean the audition was fun. It was all fun. Well, I mean, and I was I was a nice girl in the soap that I did too. I played some nice girls and I yeah, and I was a nice girl in Medicine Ball and a nice girl in the little movie of the Week that I did.

36:44 So that been Sworn a. Vengeance, I mean, and it was a short that was a little scene but just like yeah, teenage runaway. More more hapless, right, I get there was a lot more just hapless, but yeah, and Jump Street. Yeah, I was just just I was like this depressed suicidal team, right, and you know, and you also got to mention that that was one of the ones Brad Pitt guests start on. So Johnny were on that. So that was before he was that was before his big debut in Thelman Louise Rights. It's a good day for young Tiffany on the set, right always.

37:26 Yeah, And I did the you know, the sitcom with John Stamos you again, so and in that I wasn't again I'm not I'm not mean or bad. I was just funky, punky girl. So no, I just I loved h I love the role you did on phrase Nightmares because you you've got your You've got like a bit of a country accent in your little site. Very nice, yeah, little southern. Two pots of coffee, he's got two pots of coffee. Yeah, and they're like yeah and that you know, did you know you're pregnant? Oh yes, sir, But yeah, it was fun.

38:10 It was a lot of fun to do that. And having that baby, I think. I but I blew the sound guy's ear drums out when they asked me to scream. Oh great scream and that scene yeah, well, I mean and they had. To tone it down and do like a little reverb on it and stuff. But they said, we want you to scream. I'm like, scream, scream, Like, yeah, we want you to scream. I'm like okay, And I saw the sound guy just. Well, you know, in my experience, you have to have someone who's performing in front of the camera actually scream because you get those facial expressions you know that are very natural and you know, stream scream. Sure you need that, but yeah, you may blow out the sound guy yeah.

38:53 Yeah, warn sound so they can make the adjustment on their end, right or slip off an earphone or something. Yep. Absolutely so. Yeah, that was a lot of fun to do and a great series. I loved that and I didn't do the series, but that was out at the same time the Friday of the Thirteenth TV series was on, and that was a great show too. It was great shows. Yeah, but I mean good TV on then credit where credits do? Though you're you're one of the very few people that have been involved in both The Friday Thirteenth World and the Nightmare onm Street World. Not a lot of actor or actress could say that. So it's a story and I got to I got to have Freddy's baby. So exactly not a lot of that either, I'll tell you what. Watching that recently, when they show that baby come out, I thought to myself, I can't believe this was on television like regular television. This is a cable, this is this is standard television in nineteen eighty nine.

39:48 And and they got away with this because. Well, especially with me, with the story that I just told of that scene being changed in the film of them saying that's not going to get past the ratings board and then they do. So like that, you're like, which is it? Yeah? Right, and once for theater, once for TV. So it's like, Okay, that doesn't balance out, right, does it? Yeah? And well, I mean I think specifically the rating that we were going for with on the film had those specific restrictions on it. I think like it wasn't that they weren't making movies that didn't show things. It was just that's whatever we needed to get the ratings. And I think that has to do with distribution too. I'm hearing about that with just working on the Catnip at the ratings that if you get those PG ratings, it's a lot better for like overseas distribution. And again, as a director, you probably know about that, but you have much more fun with our stuff, right you do, because most of the big horror films now are it most like everything's are oh kids can't go see it? Yeah, I'm sure. Like if I remember asking our teenage son, oh, he's like, yeah, I've seen it, Yeah, I seen it seeing it.

41:02 I'm like, how are you seeing. All these films? He's like whatever, yeah, the dark mom. So this this would take us up to about the mid to late nineties. And this is is this where you kind of transition to UH to a new passion right with photography. Yeah, yeah, when did I start my business? Well, I didn't start my business until after our UH eldess was born, but I was doing like fine art. It was the move to Seattle that really make that happen because there was nothing going on. I mean, I did medicine ball and I did the rama game. She was she was not nice, Francesca Sabatini, she wasn't a nice girl. She's kind of manipulative. But those were the two that I did there, and they're just there was no work for actors, and I had to do something for my keep that creative flow. And I had always wanted really to explore photography.

42:10 So I picked up a camera and started shooting and really gravitated to doing like dark fine art and had a few shows and sold quite a few things, and Seattle got it just involved in that whole like sub group in Seattle, which is really cool, like great town to be in in that time. Yeah, and it's I pretty much hung up the like I remember when my agent was like she wasn't going to do it. Anymore, and I was just like, man, there's just nothing happening here. I mean, it was really difficult to shoot. Like I remember when Sylvester Stallone was wanting to shoot in Seattle for something. He was wanting to shoot on the viaduct, which is now no longer in Seattle. If you ever spent time there, and the city of Seattle wouldn't let them use biduct, they wouldn't let him shut it down, being very short sighted, Like the film commission in Seattle was terrible that way, because when a film comes into town, like they have most of their crew, they have everybody, and they get per diem and then for deems got to be spent or they get or you know, the cast and grew get taxed on it. So wherever you're shooting, whatever town you're shooting on, all that money is going to go into that town. So it's it's really lucrative to have a film. I mean, it could be a pain in the butt because things will get shut down, traffic will be changed. But for the most part, people

43:42 think it's really cool. You know, they're like, yeah, our town, I mean place we live in now, we had a major production. We had a few major productions here, and people think it's really this cool talking point. So it's very lucrative to have a film crew in your town. But the problem was is that Seattle Film Commission made it so difficult for companies to come in that most film production companies just go to Canada where it can look exactly like Seattle, like they do some of their They'll they'll send like their second unit to shoot some exteriors in Seattle to get the Seattle vibe, but then they'll shoot the rest of it in Canada and they get the exchange rate and a lot more amenable to cruise coming in. So Seattle lost on that one, which is a shame. I've seen a few projects. I think maybe they've gotten a little better over the years, but they're still it's still tough because Seattle is a great place to shoot, but they just have not made it very enticing for film companies.

44:46 That's a shame. Yeah, So I just I just pretty much gave it up at that point. Yeah, I took over photography full time. Well, you know, it's kind of a similar boat that I'm in. I pick up a camera and just started shooting one day because and I just fell in love with photography, So tell us a little bit about your Rascal photo and design. Well, initially it started out as again my I do a lot of My favorite is conceptual pieces, and I mean I can spend like days on photoshop doing conceptual pieces. Definitely not my bread and butter. When we were in Seattle the port I just started doing mainly portraiture with the smattering of weddings, and it was really nice. We had kind of a nice setup where my husband was officiating and I was shooting, and then he would join me as a second shooter for the rest of the reception.

45:43 So that worked out very well. And I loved doing portraiture. I loved shooting like kids, artists, musicians, usually subjects that are really or The women who were my favorite were the women who were like, I don't look good in pictures, not photogenic. I don't And those are my favorite to shoot because it's you know, I mean, yes, I guess there are certain people who doesn't naturally look great on camera, but it's so much more interesting to work with somebody who's not necessarily comfortable in front of a camera and then turn around and give them their shots and they're like oh my god, like these are really good and you're like, well that's you, you know. So that's kind of what I did, was the portraits. And when we moved to Canada, it's it's super competitive where we're living, like crazy competitive, nothing like the state because it's a small, like very attractive tourist town, so it attracts a lot of a lot of money, a lot of professionals, like high high end professionals. So it's I've never really been able to get purchase here with the portraiture. I mean I still do it, and I still do the odd jobs and things, but again to feel that creative thing, I was like, well, all the you know, projects that are shooting in Canada, and maybe I'll see about getting an agent here too. And I'm a dual citizen, so

47:15 there you go. It sounds like a sounds like a good thing because anytime an American film production company comes to Canada, one of the things is they have to hire a certain amount of Canadian actors and crew part of the deal. So I'm like, I can take advantage of that. So I got an agent, yeah, and like booked three films. Boom boom boom, right off the bat so, Yeah, and got quiet around COVID and now back about to work on an American film production and yeah like that. So I'm still I'm still doing my picture. I just wherever I can get my creative jones in, you know. Yeah, I was perusing your website and one of the things that you said there, you said, my approach to photography has always been about connecting to life in a triculation of dreams and expression of spirit. Although the camera only sees in two dimensions, it is a powerful catalyst through which souls unite and the true beauty of all living things is revealed. That's absolutely beautiful. It really is.

48:18 When I when I read that, I was just like, wow, she is absolutely correct with that. You know, I fell in love with photography. And you know, if you're not behind the camera and you've never captured that perfect image and you know what I'm talking about, when you capture it and you just fall in love with it, if you've never been behind the camera, you don't understand that, you know. And for me, when I go to events and stuff like that and you get that perfect light, you get that perfect uh you know, position of somebody and you capture that and you're showing people and oh, that looks beautiful, But you, as a photographer, you're like you're on You're on cloud nine, right, Yeah, absolutely, No one else understands that but the photographer. But no, that's absolutely beautiful what you said there. It really really is and shows you how much you will love and appreciate that photography.

49:03 Yeah, And for years I was like, oh, this is this is even more satisfying than being on the other end of the camera. And now it's kind of switching again, and it's like I've found that it doesn't have one doesn't have to be exclusive, you know, I can I can find joy on both sides. Sometimes when you get too much into the business end of photography, though, it does start getting like oh god, particularly like that's why I'm I just dabble in weddings. I don't go at it too aggressively because that can be that's that can be pretty intense. Those are long days and lots of personalities, you know, where like so much of me just wants to go and like follow the kids around and you shoot the kids all day. Yeah, can I just take pictures of them?

49:52 Absolutely? I completely understand that. For Yeah, because the kids, they just they reveal themselves or photographing animals or yeah, and unfortunately, I mean it's you know, like I said, my conceptual stuff is you know, doesn't earn me money, but it really really fills me. And it's it's so much fun. Like I have some pieces where I'm just like damn, like yeah, I mean, and it's it's again, it's it's putting in all these different pieces and I hate AI for taking that from us. I mean, it's not there yet for the stuff that I'm doing. But like I have one of my favorite Halloween pictures because I usually do a Halloween post, but I have one of it's a monster in a living room watching aliens and his little pet frog is by his side, and it's this old seventies living room. It's it's on the it's on the website if you're on there.

50:49 And I absolutely loved building this thing. And it was all by scratch, like it's I was like, for the monster, I'm I'm finding how did I find the monster? It was like. Pictures of tubing. I think I was looking for different tubing and I found the right tubing and I'm like, okay, those can be like his eyestalks and I started. So it's it was really like so organically put together. And now I'm like, oh and AI, I can just be like prompts Monster in the seventies retro living room watching aliens on old style TV, and you know, I'm just. Like yah, yeah, that's no fun. Yuh no, thank you No.

51:33 So I mean I think that it's it's also it's going one way, it'll come back because it's and I've heard it. I've heard AI called being called boomer art basically like the younger generation or like no thank you. They're they're interested in like the practical effects. They're interested in like the old Well, my son is in film school now and his like the coveted Unicorn film camera, like they brought it out and it's this big airflex right, it's just like when he gets to use it, he's so excited, like and all of everything he does is like he uses film and he uses he'll use like old eighties like those cam quarters and it's yeah, the young people don't want the AI.

52:24 That's good. I gotta say. That's when you when you hear about all these movies being shot with like iPhones, now, it is so refreshing to hear that kids are using something like an airflex and they're the cameras. Yeah, they they really, I mean, and it's it'll be divided. It's like every everything will be available to us, you know. And I just when I see that Lion Skates making some deal with an AI company to start shooting some AI films. So, I mean, there'll be something for everybody. But it's going to go one side and then it's going to come back because people artists are always going to be creating art always, and if you're just feeding words into a computer, I'm sorry. You are not an artist.

53:05 So you can be you can be a business person, you can be a filmmaker, but you're not an artist if you're doing that my opinion, say it loud and proud. No, I'm with you on that one. Absolutely. So I've got to ask you what's your favorite lens you use? I have my I have two point eight one is the twenty eight to seventy and you know there's a seventy to two hundred shooting on Nikon. Yeah, those are my those are really it. I mean, I have my my fifty that the formance lens. It's like it's a fifty like eight. It's it's it's a cheap lens and it's great, like for boudoir. It's like it's the best little lens and it's it's like one of the best kept secrets. Ione Yeah, yeah, I love this little thing.

53:57 I think it's like actually a two point eight or something. But yeah, that's that's uh, those are that's what's in my bag. What's in your bag? I have an eighty milimeter which is just like you're fifty. Uh, it was really cheap and it's one of my best lenses. It's crazy. It's a beautiful portrait lens. It is eighty that's what I use it for. It's ports. Yeah, beautiful lens for that. But I do have a seventy two hundred milimeters in my bag because when I go to events, you know, you need that that zoom in and out. You need that flexibility when you go into those events for sure, you know, because eighty millimere is the prime lens, so you have to move around, yeah you know, yeah, but still gives great portrait work. So those are usually there. And I do have a twenty seven to seventy millimeter lens in my bag too, So I've got the range, you know that I do. I do have a six hundred, but I barely use it. Wow, you know nature photography, I'll get the bears exactly the bears and stuff like that. But yeah, no, so pretty much is similar. But what's in our bags?

54:57 That's cool? Right on, right on? Good deal. Yeah, if we could jump back into your film work for a for a quick minute. So I know you've done some recent projects. You did like Read Letter Day, I believe back in twenty nineteen where you played Nicole Morris. Yep, tell me a little bit about that movie. Great premise. I don't know if you've seen it. It's absolutely an outstanding premise. It's very believable. I mean, obviously what happens in the film is not believable, as it's a horror film, but that like the premise, you're like, yeah, I could see that happening, you know, with the people turning on each other by receiving these letters that their neighbor wants to kill them. That's basically it. It's like what would you do? Right? But yeah, it was so much fun to work on. And yeah, director also a Friday fan. They give a tribute to Violet in the beginning of it, where yeah, where the sun is like kind of peekabooing at the neighbor's daughter, right, and she's doing this dance topless and it's a dance like the one Violet does.

56:15 Nice. So yeah, the director was wearing a Jason Pin on the set, so he's like. Perfect. So yeah, it was. It was really fun, absolutely wonderful crew. I was I was just a very short shoot get like some of those indie films are quick. Yeah, but so, I mean I was bummed I was only there one day because I would have I would have loved to just stay on that set. It was great. They have to move quick, don't they. They got them small budgets, they have to move back. Yep. Absolutely, I'm sure you know all about it. I do absolutely. Every second is money, money, money, yep.

56:56 And now that same year, you're in one of the more intense Stephen King films to come out, and I'm talking about In the Tall Grass. I think it was a Netflix original. Man, what a spooky film. Yes, I loved it, loved that movie. That was actually it was really that was fun. So that was the same casting director who had cast me and Come True. I had given me that one or that audition. A lot of fun with that audition and you never think about that though when you see that, when you see these little like like no no lines or anything, and someone just doing like a look, yeah that was that was an audition. I actually had to send them three takes of of doing this back and forth to the you know, smoking thing and these responses.

57:46 Yeah you never it's funny. And the set was amazing. Again. I went from you know, when I worked on Come True, it was an absolute skeleton crew. It was like like literally three people. Oh wow, as who was there, you know, was like the. Makeup person, the director, and the producer. That was That was. That was it. And I mean and he did some of his shots like from a from a grocery cart and he's genius. Like I don't know if you've seen that, but like the post editing his stuff is amazing. So go big or go small, It's like, but the Netflix sets are like low, so very busy. And the gas station that I come out of was the set dressing was amazing. I wanted to just spend like the day in it, look at it like that every little detail and you never really see the inside of that garage, but it's totally it looks like what the what you'd expect it to look like on the inside. Like it was not like a set where there's nothing behind, you know, nothing that was like facade sets, nothing like that. It was this garage and they had fully redone it to look like this old garage in the middle of nowhere.

59:08 Like the detail is phenomenal on those because they, i mean, they have the budget to do whatever, and I'm sure the set dressers just have so much fun, like finding things like oh wait, god, look what I got today. We can put this in this seat, It'll be great. So it was when it was connected to Come True, it was like the same producers. I mean, Vincenzo Natally was like he I think he had a producer credit on Come True. And yeah, they were all they were interconnected, like a lot of the same uh production crew was on Come True. So again it was all tied to and it was tied to Friday the thirteenth. They're all Friday fans.

59:54 Like the more of course, yeah, were everywhere everywhere, so I mean. And it was fun. It was I felt a little bit ripped off on that because that was everybody's last day shooting in Alberta, so everybody was like ready to go home. Yeah, So there really wasn't that. Like I don't know, it's like working on films is always fun because it gets to be like a real family vibe, and I think people just wanted to go home. They were tired. And Laisla, you know, the star, the woman in it, she showing me. I mean that, it's like she there were like twelve of those little blue dresses that she had to wear, and she was talking about some of the conditions. She's like, oh, yeah, like the people that the grass people or whatever that come out.

1:00:42 So it sounded like it was a pretty intense and physical, like physically taxing shoot. And I know Vincenzo was feeling a little under the weather the day I was out there, So it was and then that I had the scary, this scary honor of trying to get out of there, because it's like, if you've ever been to Alberta, they're like these like zones where there's just nothing. It's just miles and miles of the same way you see stuff like that in the Midwest, where it's just like field after field after field, and there's and nothing like no like street markers like there you know, rural route number eight hundred and seventy three or whatever. You can't so these little patches in Alberta, and it's I have a really bad sense of direction anyway. And I remember and it went late, like even though I was there early, was a classic hurry up and wait. So my scene ended up not getting shot till the end of the day.

1:01:44 And I remember a woman there like saying, you better get on the road now because it's like the the navigation equipment doesn't even work out here. And I'm like, oh, so, I'm like, I was really scared because I'm like, you know, I try to think of that, okay, so if I went right, right left, I'm going to go right left, like trying to think backwards on the directions. Yeah, And somehow I got out of there, but I was really and coming in was the most wicked fog I'd ever seen. I actually had to pull over. I couldn't I like could not see like the idea of following the car in front of you, I couldn't even see the car in front of me. The fog was so bad. It was one of the most harrowing rides into work and back and I was just like, oh my god, what have I just done? But I was super excited to be on anything associated with Stephen King absolutely and that the cool thing was too And this is one of the things I love about Canada. I was actually at the climbing gym and I got a call directly from the casting director. She's like, Tiffany, Oh my gosh, I'm so I'm so like, I catch you a bad a time.

1:03:01 She's like, I know this is really not this is not professional or anything, but like that film production company, they it was delayed and this and that, but they really loved you when they want you for that part. And I was like, oh sweet, you know. I mean, usually it's a whole like I don't know, it's a hierarchy that it comes through, like you're the agency and we're talking negotiations. But this was cool. The casting director was just like, yeah, they love you, we want you. I was like, cool, awesome, that's the tall Grass story. And you mentioned come True, which you did in twenty twenty. Correct, yep, that was before it might have been released then, but it was okay. But you filmed it before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, before in the tall Grass? Gotcha? How did that go?

1:03:45 What was the experience on that one? They were actually pretty close. In fact, I made a joke about it when I met the producer in the tall Grass and I was like, we were talking about it, and I'm like, so it was actually quite a bit before that, I before in the tall Grass. But I was like, so, how is like post editing going and how's and he kind of laughed and he's like, Bell, he said, this will probably come out before come true to us. I'm like, oh, okay, because again it's it's it's the one direct director, Anthony Scott Burns, who's really a one man wrecking crew. I mean, he did the music, he did the editing, he wrote the story, he did the directing, he did He wasn't the main producer, that's about the only thing. And he didn't do makeup, but he he does like everything. So the post editing was super painstaking.

1:04:37 I'm sure. And that sounds like my avenue doing everything with the editing and all that kind of stuff. So can that's what my son wants to do. It's fun to do everything. It's just like photography. You know, if you have a love for it, you're going to just get take it and it takes over your life, you know, And when you get done with it, it's just like getting that perfect picture. You get to see it and you're like, wow that, I can't believe I did that, you know, So I get that, I do. Dave. Let's take one last break and when we come back, we are going to be discussing Tiffany's upcoming work. Stay tuned. So, Tiffany, you have a new horror film going into production this coming February. And last month, not only were you kind enough to join us and discuss the project, you brought along your mother, famed actress Brooke Bundy, your co producer David Thomas Newman, and the director Nile Kavoso Scarcia to talk about Catnip. Listeners, if you missed that one, go back to last month and check it out. It was an excellent conversation with the cast and crew. Now, Tiffany, Nile's not here with us today, and I don't want to get you in trouble, but what can you tell us about Catnip?

1:05:59 I can share that it is a story of these people trapped in this apartment building with these insane killer cats. So we are using all practical effects we have. Yeah, we're using real cats, not only real cats, real rescued cats, all rescued cats. So they're going to after this. We have this lovely animal trainer who have multiple conversations with because you got to say it, because you know, we will always tell you. We always will tell you that we're when we're vegan, Like, how do you know Vegan, They're going to tell you, well, I'm going to tell you now I'm vegan. So there was an issue with like people wanting to know, really, you're doing this movie about killer cats and you're Vegan. I'm like, heck yeah, said these cats are going to be treated amazingly. Well, first of all, you can't train a cat with fear and intimidation. They'll just be like screw you and I'm gonna take your eyes for good measure. So no, Cheryl is like she's going to shelters and handpicking these cats because I have to be able to There's only certain cats that are very trainable. But Willie, our lead cat, who's only got one eye, he's going to be the

1:07:32 main bad Katy so and he's he's beautiful. I'm gonna have see him with his makeup bon because he's just this gorgeous tuxedo cat awesome. I saw his picture on Instagram and if he's the main yeah, he's going to be an awesome villain. You that much. Yeah, he's a handsome boy. And we we have We're gonna have Monster the Dog. And I won't give away if anything happens to the dog or not, because that's always that's you always wonder. It's like every horror movie when you see the dog in the first shot, you're like, oh God, the dog is gonna get it. The cuter and sweeter the dog, the worse it's gonna be, you know, And unless it's it's uh, you know, the Tarantino right.

1:08:17 So anyway, but Caten, if we're actually one of the really really cool things about Catnip is it's gonna be I'm gonna be working with my mom, buddy. So she was approached first by the director, and she was even hesitating for well for a few reasons. But one of the things she was afraid to tell me. She's like, oh, my daughter will kill me if she knows I'm doing this it's a movie about killer cats. I'm like, oh my god, it sounds amazing. So I reached out to the director and I was like, I want to support this film anyway I can. And so I had been working on promoting it and he asked me if I wanted to audition for for a part in it, and I was like, well, uh yeah, and I because I had read the script, I'm like, this script is so good.

1:09:10 It's really really good. It's just got all the right stuff in it. It's I mean, it's got all the it's got the kills, it's super gory, but it's super funny, it's got some very tender moments, and it's it's just it's great. H Nile is a wonderful writer, and I'm really excited about working with him. Well, I have been working. We've been full scale pre production. So then on top of getting this role, he asked me if I wanted to be an associate producer. Oh oh, so I've been on. I'm part of the core team of associate producers. I think there's like twelve of us. So it's going to be very interesting. Because Nile is self proclaimed not a cat lover. Oh no, really house is going to work, so it's going to be very interesting. But Cheryl's going to be managed the cats, and we have a great effects team like it, and if you go onto the Catnip website you can see all of his reels too, like top notch stuff. So we're calling I mean, it's not it's kind of like god A Gremlins, but for adults feel. That's how I've heard a lot of people say it. I'm like, yeah, it's kind of it modern modern Gremlins with adult feel, but it's also got that kind of throwback horror feel to it. And we're gonna be more cast members have been announced every couple of weeks, and I guess Nile told me that we're going to be taking out an ad in variety and stuff soon in the next couple of weeks with announcements and more

1:10:41 cast members, and I think we're gonna have some good names, some good horror names in there, and it's gonna be we think this is going to be really, really good. And if you guys want us back on the show as a team, because Nile and my mom and I have been doing these podcasts and I call them podcasts. Right, Yeah, listeners. She had, she had her palls up. She was saying that fantastic, like a tough crowd. Tough. I have so many cat puns. My favorite, like the feline is mutual. Right, oh wow, Well, then the tagline for this is the end is now.

1:11:26 Now you mentioned Grimlins? Is it? I've read? Is Catnip going to be like a Christmas themed horror film? Does it take place? Yes, it takes place on Christmas, So we're looking for we're looking for a Halloween twenty twenty five release. Okay, but it's going to be right at that cusp, just like Nightmare Before Christmas, where it's in that sweet spot. So it gets the Halloween people, and it gets the Christmas people, and it gets the cat lovers and the cat haters. So there's something for everybody in this and it's it's going to be a gas to work on. I'm so excited. And he's gonna Nile's gonna let me photograph as well when I'm not working, so I get to get pictures on the set, which is very different than like the Netflix shows, because they're like you can't share anything about the show or who's on it, or take any pictures really like when I when I did Under the Banner, I was like, I was in my dressing room. I'm like looking around to see if I'm like cause I just wanted a picture in my ensemble because it was it's a period piece. I'm like, oh my god, I look amazing. And so I got like some selfies of myself and i'man the only ones I sent it. I would send it to my agent. I'm like, you can't share this with anybody. They'll come after me, they're gonna kill me. But they're like, they're so like, you cannot share any of that information. So it's so much fun to be working on a project where they're like, yes, share it, promote it, tell everybody about it.

1:12:56 So you know, well, you've really got me hooked. I'm excited for that film because one, I'm a cat lover, so I'm in that bucket right. Two I'm very excited to hear that they're using rescues, that there's so many cats out there who need a good home, they need to be saved and loved, and the fact that this you guys are doing that, that is absolutely outstanding. So kudos to you guys for doing that. I wish I could go get all the cats and save them, but you just can't, you know, And I can. I can go even further. When I was talking with the animal trainer about it, so she's they have a bunch of the cats at their studio and now some of these cats, she said, they were all these strays around, so she just ended up taking them in like there was so, I mean, not all of them are like industry working acting cats, right, some of them are just like just free load and strays. But she's taken them in.

1:13:50 She's like because of the problem, and bless her heart for going into these shelters, because now she's got the assignment of picking animals that are going to be trainable for certain scenes right, certain things that they can do. So she can't take them all, but she has to go see all of them. And she's like, I mean, and there's the PSA for the day man. The shelters are busting at the seams, dogs and cats and all these people who got all these animals during COVID and we're like, yeah, let's get an animal because we're stuck inside the house and we have nothing else to do. It's like and now people are back in their lives and they don't have time for these animals and they're relinquishing them, or they got a breed that is not suitable for their personality, and it's really bad. Man. Just adopt, don't shop. And there are so many peer breads out there if you want some peer bread that you can find one as a rescue likes. And I've worked rescue too.

1:14:52 I worked for a rescue organization and it's I mean, and I've had my share of dogs that have come from breeders, but I I never ever ever will again after working rescue, and it's it's the problem is not getting any better. So and what is it? If you adopt, don't shot. And if you can't adopt, foster, and if you can't foster, volunteer, and if you can't volunteer. Donate exactly. Yep, yep. I had a twelve year old cat who passed away back in June, and I knew I needed another one because you know, again, so many animals out there who need a good home. So about three weeks after my cat had passed away, I went and adopted another one. And there's so many in there.

1:15:36 I just I want all of you come with me, but you just can't. You can't. And it's yeah, I mean it. Fostering is really great. Like we had our dog had passed a few years ago and it was a way of getting through my grief. Was I fostered and it was like a life saver for me, and it was great for the pups and we ended up keeping one of the fosters. They say it's a foster failed, what I call it a foster success. That's a foster success in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely, So. We have our kitty and our pupp are both rescues. So yeah, there's my my feel about the rescue. So yeah, and and Catnip is We're on Instagram, We're on Facebook, just started a little bit on TikTok and Twister as I call it, and whatever the other one is in Facebook. Yeah, so we're and of course the website and hopefully starting to book conventions and such like that. That's what I'm hoping.

1:16:42 So you're sure the crap out of it, don't worry. Oh, you guys are the best. Absolutely well, and you know, let's let's let's hopefully we can get the Catnip Crew to some cons on the East Coast. Like like I said, we would love to have you at Scarefest. We'd love to have you at Horror Hound. That would be amazing. Galaxy Con. Let's let's see you. You know, guys, are you know, like I said, if you have any any connection with the promoters, because we think I mean, I know probably lots of filmmakers think this, but we really think this is going to be a big one because nobody's done cats before, just the old school filming. That's really the people are really eating up right now. They want I'm a fan of it, want that look the practical effects. We want to get the word out there for you all about it because I'm big time behind this for sure.

1:17:31 Okay, now, Tiffany postcat Nip, are there any projects you want to you want to talk about anything you can share with us. What's what's coming afterward? Well, there's I'm working with a screenwriter out of Utah who after Seen Come True And he's been a friend of mine on Facebook for a while and we just and he's a photographer. He's a drone photographer, like amazing stuff as gets like all the the old like paintings in Utah and the rocks and stuff rock art, but he does like amazing stuff. Anyway, he wanted He's like, I want to write a script like with you was the bad guy, Horror, the villain, And I'm like, oh, heck, yeah.

1:18:17 So he wrote it and he I mean, I can't remember how many drafts we have, and he got it registered and everything right now. It's it's getting a bit of an overhaul, but that's something that I'm hoping gets up and going in the next couple couple of years at least. So I'm waiting for whatever he has next. So that is. Going to be probably called Evelyn like kind of evil in nicely and again a very interesting and kind of unique story. So and yeah, I get to be the the it's actually the the weapon of choice is a one of those school paper cutter plates.

1:19:04 I like it. That's that's and and yeah, and her counterpart, a woman who's Navajo, uses these like deer the like elk Antler things nice. So yeah, so it could be that could be fun. And then I actually got a thing from because I looked at my im D, I'm like, oh, I called my manager because he had sent me a script. This is my manager that I got in l A now for a project called The Summoning, So he I think is going to be producing that and he wants me to be part of it. So that is now that's listed on my I M d B is pre production.

1:19:44 So and that's that's about, you know, summoning possession. Of course we love that theme, so we got we got the slasher Evelyn. But it's it's actually it's more like psychological for it's got. It's they're all character driven. Like the Catnip. I'm like, I don't know how you did it now, but like I really love all these characters, even the ones, even the buffoons and stuff. But there's nobody. The nice thing in this in Catnip is there's nobody that you you want to get it, I mean, because it always seems like in horror movies they're people that you're just like, oh man, they're so punchable, they're so killable, they need like get them good, and not because they're bad guys, but just because they're just like just so unlikable.

1:20:29 And all the characters in this are so likable, which makes it so it's it's gonna tug at your heart strings a little bit for this, but it's harsh on the kiddies. Man. I'm like, I don't know how you're gonna do some of this stuff with these cats because there's there's a lot of you know, it's it's a high body cant on both the human and the cat side, so it gets ugly. Oh boy. Well, as we wrap up, Uh, Tiffany, I gotta ask you one one last question here you are wearing a very kick ass Soundgarden T shirt. Question is do you have a favorite album? Do you have a favorite favorite song by the band?

1:21:11 Oh? God, so many? It's been my thing for all the podcast. Is I'm just doing like band shirts. I always It's it's really simple because I have I have so many as opposed to stearing my closet like what am I gonna wear? I should wear something nice, I'm like band shirts. That'll just be my thing. So today it's Soundgarden. Do I have a favorite? I don't have a favorite. I gotta say for albums, I would say probably down on the up side, I'm guessing good choice, super Unknown, I love Bad, Motive Finger and I Mean Again.

1:21:56 And I was in Seattle. I actually got to see them. Was it for the down on the Upside Tour, I think, and got to see I mean it got to see him in Seattle. Chris had just cut his hair but still looked amazing, right, you can rock any look. And I remember the day that I got the news about his passing and it took me months to get over that one, like really and it felt like so much like part of like Seattle died. It was like the day Seattle died to me. And we have my husband got this framed picture of him from The Stranger, which is a Seattle paper, so it's it's this great photo of him from when that happened. And then I got this other artist because I was part of this Facebook group that we were all just just grieving, like in droves, just was we just could not wrap our heads around it.

1:22:58 And there was an artist who was doing these like paintings of him or drawings. I don't even know what the medium is and he was basically just giving them away and it's these beautiful, beautiful painting. So we have that framed and I found all my old ticket stuff for when I saw them and put that in there. Yeah, and I have I mean, I have a bracelet that says no One sings like you anymore? And what about you guys? What do you? What are you saying? You're your favorite? Uh? For me, it'd probably be bad motor Finger, but I did I did have the Uh. I was fortunate enough to catch them at Lollapalooza a long time ago and Chris Chris had come out. He apologized before he even they even started the first song. He said, I apologize, I'm I've I think I've got the flu, but I'm not sure, but I'll do my best. And his voice was it was just beautiful, just incredible experience. Wow.

1:23:55 What year was that? That would have been? Gosh, I don't want to date myself too bad here they would have it would have been late nineties. Uh, you know, like like Lolla Pluza was was still a thing, but it was starting to fade out a little bit. That was the one where they were co headlining with Metallica and I got I gotta say they were the they were the show to watch that that that weekend. Wow. Yeah, I was at one of the last lollapulous when it was Tool and Orb and Tricky like is it well? I mean after Tool because I was like, oh the hell is gonna come after Tool. It was the ORB and I don't know if you've ever seen the ORB. They were amazing. I was like, my my mind was blown by them. Very different. But yeah, like following up Tool, it's like, how do you even do that?

1:24:46 But yeah, so huge, huge loss from Cornell. You know, we've lost, We've lost so many. We still have Eddie, Eddie, keep with it, buddy, But yeah, I do love them, love his solo stuff. Definitely one of my favorites listeners. We've been talking with Tiffany Helm and we've been talking about Friday the thirteenth, a New Beginning, among other things. Let us know what you think of this one, let us know what you think about Tiffany's other work. Let us know on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, x. You can check out a Film by Podcast dot com for all of our film and TV articles and our entire library, which is streaming free. You can write to us at a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. We may just read your response on the show and send you some of our A film by Swag Tiffany, It has been an absolute blast having a conversation with you, and I'm already looking forward to having you back with Brooke, with Nile, the whole Catnip gang.

1:26:01 Bring the cats, well, bring the cats. That's what I'm like. We need to have WILLI on one of these. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's quite there yet, but I like the idea. And David, hey, you know they're they're the cameras are rolling yet. Maybe it's not too late for for Dodger to send in. A Dodger out there. Tape. Yeah, all right, you're not there to work. Absolutely, I'm freeloading exactly. Cats listeners, please check out all the links for for Catnip. Their website will have all of that in our show notes, and we of course want to wish you a very happy Friday at thirteen We we thank you for listening.

1:26:47 Thanks, thank you,