May 23, 2023

A Film at 45 - Animal House

A Film at 45 - Animal House

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Join David Burns and Scott Hoffman as they celebrate the 45th anniversary of some of the most memorable films of 1978. This week, they head back to campus with Dayton Johnson from...

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We got to do something... You know what we are gonna do? Toga Party!

Join David Burns and Scott Hoffman as they celebrate the 45th anniversary of some of the most memorable films of 1978. This week, they head back to campus with Dayton Johnson from the Docking Bay 77 podcast to discuss National Lampoon's Animal House; starring John Belushi, Karen Allen, Tom Hulce, and Kevin Bacon in his feature film debut!

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
nineteen seventy eight in a Film Buys limited

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series, A Film at forty five. I am David Burns and I'm Scott

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Affman, welcoming your back as we
dust off the end of a decade that

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changed cinema forever with a fresh look
at modern classics and hidden gems who can't

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stop watching even forty five years after
their debut. In today's episode, we're

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pledging the granddaddy of all college comedies, National Lampoons, Animal House, with

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a very special guest, Docking Day
seventy seven, Zone Dayton, Johnson Dayton,

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Welcome to it. Yeah Yeah,
Who dumped a whole truckload of fizzies

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into the swim meet, Who delivered
the medical school cadivers to the alumni dinner

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Every Halloween? Trees are filled with
underwear Every spring, the toilets explode.

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You're talking about Delta, Sir,
who dumped a truckload of fizzies into the

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swim meet, Who delivered the medical
school cadavers to Lemni dinner every Halloween.

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The trees are filled with underwear every
spring, the toilets explode. I'm happy

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and excited to be here. You
know, Dayton, I know we've been

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waiting for this one because we knew
you were going to be a guest with

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us, and we could not wait. So I'm excited to have you here.

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I cannot wait to dive into this
film because we know there have been

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a few college movies made over the
years, but none of them have stuck

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the landing like the one we are
discussing today. It is a cultural landmark.

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Nashe Lampoon has given us many treats
over the years, but nothing like

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Animal House has. It is far
above film. All All right, guys,

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let's time travel back to nineteen sixty
two and join Delta House, get

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our pledge pins, grab our togas, and challenge the dean of favorite college

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and do what we do best.
Have some fun talking about this classic comedy.

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Release July thirtieth, nineteen seventy eight, with a budget of three million,

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it would go on and earne shy
one hundred forty two million dollars worldwide.

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Scott, let's walk down the halls
and visit the different houses of the

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campus and let our listeners know what
is this film all about? Yeah,

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so apparently there's something about seventy eight
that always seems to take us out of

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the seventies, and this movie is
no exception. So, like you said,

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it's set in sixty two, and
there are two sides of the fictional

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favorite college campus, the Omega House
Omega Theta Pie and the Delta House Delta

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Tao Chai Chi Chai saying there,
who cares they wouldn't twis me on it,

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so I woncluse myself. Omega is
the uptight fret coming straight out of

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a leave It to Beaver episode,
while Delta House leaves its door wide open

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to welcome anyone who wants to cut
luc and have a good time. When

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the Dean threatens to shut down Delta
forever, the underdogs take over, fight

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back and make an unforgettable last stand. So let's talk about the first time

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National Lampoon hits cinemas, the college
movie that find all college movies that followed

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it in a film that conquered comedy
in nineteen seventy eight for only three this

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thing was a powerhouse. Yes,
it was. My goodness, Dayton,

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do you remember the first time you
saw this film? Indeed? I do.

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Uh. This was actually my very
first rated R film I saw in

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the theater. Okay, cool.
So my parents heard the everything was going

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on about this movie that was such
a big deal. It was so funny,

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and they had some friends that had
seen it, and they said,

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well, why is it rated R? And their friends misinformed them. I

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said, Oh, it's just just
a language and drinking and stuff. So

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so yes, oh no. In
the first twenty minutest thing, so out

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of family movie night out, the
four of us went to go see Animal

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House at the theater. So of
course, you know, you're I was

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seven eight ish at the time.
We finally got to see it because it

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came out in seven dates was we
probably saw a little bit later. But

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every time, you know, the
shirts come off, you got to cover

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your eyes and you know some but
I remember laughing at the stuff. I

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understood, you know what I mean, because there's a lot of jokes in

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there to go over a seven eight
year olds head. But it I will

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never forget, you know, peeking
through my eyes to get a shot of

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the of the boobies and stuff like
that, and even though I'm sitting next

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to my parents and like, I
still kind of want to see that,

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you know, but oh my god, it just so much, so throughout

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my teen years, so much so
that actually, when I graduated from high

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school based on my second parents gave
me a VHS copy of it as a

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graduation gift. Nice Scott, what
about you? This is one where I've

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seen more clips more often than I've
seen it all the way through. First

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time I saw it was probably in
college. It was probably like you know,

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mid to late nineties, when I
was starting to get into classics that

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I had never really seen but hadn't
seen everywhere, Like you can't walk through

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like an Applebee's or a Friday's,
or like many places where they have kind

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of iconic scenes or kind of posters
or whatever animal house is Oliver, Like,

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you can't not have seen something from
this movie for good reason. It

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was later years for me. Um. I didn't see this when I was

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in high school. It was my
Sun Sun Coach years actually when I got

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to see this for the first time, because you know, hanging out with

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guys like you, becoming friends with
you, and you know, we talk

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about the movies that we love and
those classics, and that's when I started

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going back and visiting films like this, and that's where I saw it and

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quickly obviously fell in love with it
because it is clearly a classic comic.

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Yeah, so let's talk a little
bit about the film itself. So,

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as you said, we you know, we open up with two characters.

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Well, we got what Larry and
Kent I believe, who are visiting two

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fraternities because they want to figure out
which one they hope to join. And

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clearly we get two different visions of
houses. You know, we get the

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Omega House and we get the Delta
House. I don't know about you guys,

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but I would clearly go towards the
Delta House in my opinion. Yeah,

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I agreed. You know, yeah, I might not drink, but

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I'm not getting smacked in the butt, you know, by you know,

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asking for another that's not thanks,
no, thank you, none at all.

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No. Um. So, I
guess before we really dive into talking

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about the scenes that we love and
you know, but let's talk a little

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bit about the characters that we have
here, Um, Dayton, any favorite

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characters. Uh, well, it's
very difficult. I I kind of cycle

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through, like every time I watch
it, I kind of just drift from

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person to person. I mean,
uh, Kroger, you know, uh

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Pinto, He's a likable guy.
He actually kind of has, um,

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you know, a heart to him, and so does he so dos Dwarfman

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and stuff. So I like those
guys because they're kind of our avatars almost

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through this adventure, because I kind
of you kind of linked to them.

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But you know, I don't want
to be like Bluto because even though he's

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hilarious, he's disgusting. But but
every once in a while I have wanted

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to grab somebody's acoustic guitar and smashing
inst the wall because they're playing a terrible

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song. But but I think what
it comes down to, um, it's

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d Day. He's he's my favorite
character. He's got the best intro,

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he's got the best prologue, you
know, the intro when he bashes through

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the door and his motorcycle drives up
the you know stairs. It just hands

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a bear to Kroger. Here you
go, here's a bear. And then

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he does that thing, the Lone
Ranger theme on his throat and I'm like,

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Okay, that guy's cool. And
then yeah, he just hanging around

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on a motorcycle the whole time.
He's he's wonderful man. Yeah, Ruth

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mcgil I believe DDA is who I
always remember as Jack Bolton from mcgiver.

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Yes, yeah, years. It
took me years before I really put that

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together. Like I would watch I'd
see him and other stuff, and it

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never occurred to me, I swear. I think it was probably mid twenties.

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Pear, I went, oh my
god, that's D Day. Now.

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He was pretty disposed to be my
favorite character in this aside from like

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everything that you mentioned, like the
mad scientist angle that you've got, like

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the mad Scientist motorcycle biker um.
But because of Jack Dalton, because he

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was the guy on the last episode
of Quantum Leap all the Bartender, he

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was already going to be one of
my favorites, and it just knocked it

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out of the park. Like his
performance is fantastic, especially the fact that

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his whereabouts are unknown. Yeah,
I love That's a perfect way to do

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it. It's the most believable out
of all of them. Really, Yeah,

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yeah, I agree, absolutely,
So, Scott, is that your

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favorite character or do you haven't had
the one? Absolutely? Like, I'm

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not gonna do my usual cheat and
say like, well there's this one or

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this one. It's got to be
D Day, I mean versus mcgil just

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for being somebody that you know,
when you look at the rest of the

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cast, you know SNL and a
lot of the background that some of these

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actors come from us. He's not
one of the bigger names in here,

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but he's definitely one of the biggest
characters. And he's so iconic that whenever

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I see him on the screen,
it just makes me happy. Yeah.

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And he does all that with a
lot of lines either right true, right,

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right, like when they're um when
they're making the Deathmobile and he's sitting

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there with a blowtorch and a cigar
and it's just it's fantastic. Just leave

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everything to me, right right.
I remember the first time I saw that

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vehicle, Like you don't get to
see the whole thing yet, you see

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like just like the hood or the
side of it. I was like,

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hey, it's the Batmobile because it
kind of a first right they put those

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like fake fins on the side.
Yeah. Yeah, Like, oh man,

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that's awesome. That that whole great
stuff. That whole sequence is just

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fantastic. And I'm sure we're gonna
get to that eventually. Uh. For

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me, Um, I'm going towards
with Stephen first as kent Ye Flounder.

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Um he he's that that innocence you
know him in Kroeger. You know,

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they're the innocent part of all of
this film, eventually getting corrupted of course

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when they go into Delta House and
stuff like that. But you know,

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just as Deeton said, you know, we come back to them from time

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to time because you know, they
are our main characters until we get introduced

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through all these other characters that are
in the Delta House and it kind of

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goes all over the place. At
that point, we still come back to

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these two. Yeah. Um,
Stephen first, to me, I don't

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know if either one of you watched
Babylon five, but I loved him as

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Veer that he was incredible in that
role. Um, and I when I

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when I think about Stephen first,
that's who I go to right away.

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But then of course, you know, I remember who I'm playing Flounder in

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Animal House, and I absolutely loved
him. But one of the things that

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you know, I really want to
point out too, everyone gravitates towards Blue

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Do because it's John Belushi. You
know, you watch his roles and this,

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you watched his scenes in this movie, and you realize what a talented

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guy he is. Um and everybody
knows that, and it's a shame that

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we lost him when we lost him
because the things he could have given us

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over the years, and the same
thing with John Candy. Um. You

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know, it's it's such a shame
because when I revisited this film this week,

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watching it, it just I am
in all of that guy, watching

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his performance, and I know a
lot of behind the scene stuff too that

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they had to do a lot of
takes because people would just bust out laughing

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because of what he was doing on
scene. One of the things that I

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never noticed before until I watched it
this week is how much he is like

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Lou Costello. Yeah did I see
that? Though? Yeah, I did

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not realize that. His mannerisms,
his facial expressions, just the way he

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acts, like the scene when like
they were going to take the horse to

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the Dean's office, how he was
doing that little sneaky moves like up the

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steps going into the into the building, even like you know when we lead

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up to the food fight scene.
Just watching him his reactions and stuff like

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that, it's like, holy crap. If he had lived, I guarantee

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that he probably would have done a
Lou Costello movie and probably would have won

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an Oscar for it, There's no
doubt. Yeah, I could totally see

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that, totally see that. I
mean, if you think about his performance,

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the almost entire cafeteria scene was improved. Yeah, he's going out the

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food line. Ryman just said just
keep the camera on because we don't know

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what he's gonna do. Even the
gag was even the zip gag was a

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joke. He didn't They didn't.
He just you know, Stephen, guess

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why I am Now seriously, they
didn't know. The actors didn't know either,

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So it's it's fantastic. It's just
absolutely wonderful. And like you were

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saying with Bruce McGill, like that, the non verbals. Yes, there's

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not a lot of lines to Bluto, which is kinda surprising. When you

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watch this, you're like, oh, it's John Belushi movie. Of course

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he's going to have a lot of
dialogue, which he has a considerable amount,

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right, but a lot of his
comedic delivery is with non verbals.

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It's it's it's i'd say, like
fifty percent eyebrows, yeah, right,

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kind of like you know, yeah, and you know, we we've had

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this discussion before. I believe on
Documents seenty seven two Dayton, where we

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talked about um comedians on how they
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because you know the way they have
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with stuff really quick and ad lib
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at that, you keep you catch
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from the people around you, which
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movies. And you get that in
Animal House, right, Yeah, absolutely

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jar of mustard, It's like it's
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with that? You know? But
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course he has his speech at the
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only has like a handful of lines
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it's a lot of a lot of
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eyes, you know, him falling
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it's most of his performance is just
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it's great. And just the simplest
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into the Delta House for the first
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a box with the empty beer can
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his hands, like what really,
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bottle and then this is the one
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so random it just makes it so
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move on a little bit more of
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lot of famous people in it who
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in the coming years. Um,
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plays Boone. Um, you know, he has his relationship with somebody who

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we all know very much right for
me as marrying from Raiders of Lost Art.

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And of course that's Karen Allen,
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I don't think she can do any
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Absolutely. Yeah, even if I
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scene. Um, you know for
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yea, and to steal so many
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lean into like um, you know, funny lines, it's not trying to

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you know, kind of lean into
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to her. I love that,
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you when you watch her, you
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actors around her. Oh yes she
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she's kind of like somewhere between the
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know, she's not quite as obnoxious
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others. So she's she's trying to
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she keeps getting on Boon about you
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do all the time, you know, get drunk calf you know, every

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weekend and stuff, and you're gonna
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you like her because she's trying to
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to stop being you know, kind
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yeah, every time she's on screen, you're just kind of watching her because

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you do like her. I mean, so yeah, and like you said,

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for this to be your big screen
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good, really good, and the
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visit her and she opens the door, and of course the professor Jennings Yes,

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and actually I did read that she
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her but but Donald Sutherland said,
well, I'll show mine if that helps.

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So it wasn't in the script for
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well, I'll show mine if that
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how we get to see her bare
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his too. Right, Well,
thank you Donald, right from Invasion of

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the Body Snatchers to fare Button Animal
House right way to take one for the

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team exactly, yes, thank you
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Dotton who played Greg Marmillard um who, as we know, is the preppy

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jerk who teams up with the Dean
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Um. Mark Metcalf who plays a
Niedermeyer twisted sisters. Yes, yes,

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yes, when he's when he's saying
those lines, it's so hard not

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to go back to that. You
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from the videos and all that other
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in order, so when the videos
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Animal House. Yeah, the scenes, especially when he gets so expressive and

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he's yelling in somebody's face and he's
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know if he's doing that on purpose
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when he when he gets like that, but damn is it funny? Um?

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Mary Louise Weller as Mammy Pepperidge.
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debut was in this movie, Good
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been in one or two things,
one or two. A bad name,

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Chip, but a perfect name it
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job in this movie, fills in
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got a quote from him, but
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on when he found out he got
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clearly what the what this led up
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to have in his future after this, because he has done such tons of

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work throughout the years, right,
yes, right, absolutely, drama to

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scary, like yeah, yeah,
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to see these movies after you're used
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young they were. It's like,
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because you see how young and little
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yeah, especially at the end of
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flattened cartoon character on the side as
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we do him. Uh. Then
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plays Otter. We know he has
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as well. Um, we've already
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because I know Scott, you and
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in nineteen seventy eight. Yeah.
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got to talk about the Dean a
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don't think you could have got a
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Vernon. Um. When when you
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you like he there is no doubt
this guy was born to be a

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Dean. Absolutely Yeah. He's got
that like that dead pan delivery of all

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those lens like what you were saying
before Dayton, like all those lens heat

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delivers, just completely straight faced.
I don't know how he did it.

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In one take. I'm sure it
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maybe I don't know, I would. Yeah, he uh, he definitely

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embodies the head of a school that
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because he's because he cares about a
school, but for all the wrong

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reasons, you know what I mean. So, yeah, he's a but

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yes, he does it so well, you know so and apparently, I

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mean obviously he's he knows how to
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on the phone with the mayor after
oh what's her name? Comes back totally

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drunk. He's like, you know, yelling at the phone, my fault,

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how the hell can be? Even
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Rightman didn't like to dialog those written
previously, so he said, well,

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you're just you know, make something
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Crazy, you know, his wife
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she's drunk too. It's great,
It's so much fun. I think that's

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one of the things that really helped
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ad living went on in this And
I think when you're dealing with writers of

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National Lampoon, you're dealing with these
talented people from SNL and you know,

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it's just get a lot of that, and that made this movie that much

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more special. Yeah yeah, Well, and you can see with with characters

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like his, it's easy to kind
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the dots between his character is the
Dean and other characters like Dick Vernon and

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Breakfast Club right right, They're very
closely related, and um it sets the

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bar for those kind of characters and
especially for comedies being able to take this

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as a template and kind of look
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to put together a great ensemble movie
and put together you cut well, you

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know, talking about the cast,
but we got to talk about the directors

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himself too. M John Landis,
as we know, has quite a career

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himself. You know a few things
I did not know about this guy.

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He started his career in the mail
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this is the part I really did
not know, is that he went over

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to Yugoslavia to work as a production
assistant for Kelly's Heroes. Oh yeah,

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I read that too, Yeah,
yeah, I did not know that.

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And he stayed over there working as
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all those spaghetti westerns. Did not
know any of that about John landish do

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what you gotta do. This just
true. You know, you don't get

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that much anymore today, you know, walking onto a set or you know,

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breaking into the businesses because you want
to, like Steven Spielberg kind of

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kind of get arrested for that nowadays, but you know, back then,

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you know that kind of happened to
some of these people. You had to

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do what he just like you said, you had to do what you had

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to do to get into something that
you loved. Otherwise it wasn't going to

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work for you unless you knew somebody. Yeah yeah, um. But as

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you know, Landis gave us,
um, you know, the Blues Brothers,

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American Werewolf in London, trading places, spies like Us, three Amigos

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coming to America, just to name
a few of his long list of work

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that he's done over his career,
and of course Twilight Zone the movie and

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if no one knows what happened with
that movie, we won't go into details

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on that lawsuit and everything. He
had definitely checked that out because you know,

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it's that almost broke Landis and Ann
Spielberg, so definitely check that out

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if you ever get a chance.
Um. But uh, yeah, Landis.

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This was his first movie directing,
wasn't it. M Yep. Another

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kind of interesting I saw about this
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working on Kelly's Heroes, he was
he became friends with Donald Sutherland and what

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occasionally babysit for Kiefer And he later
said that it's it's Donald Sutherland who got

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this movie made because of his you
know, um what what he brought to

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the cast and what he could prove
to the producers, like what would be

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a you know what the kind of
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interesting how those little connections lead to
the big things. Yeah, but I

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did read that Sutherland I thought it
was going to bomb, so he took

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payment upfront instead of some of the
gross and end up losing money because he

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would have got a lot more money. Oh no, oops he did.

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yes, I know, but still that's

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the Yeah, maybe maybe that,
you know, because I think he would

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end up like, like, I
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of what he made. So right, yeah, it was it was considerably

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more than what he got paid to
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That just makes you sicken that your
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he probably had when he found out
what kind of money he made. Oh

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yeah, right, gross, I
showed my butt for this movie. Right.

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bit about National Lampoon guys. Uh,

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you know, they were around a
little bit from where this movie came

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from. Um, you know,
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ran from what seventy to ninety eight? I believe it was, you know,

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they they were the creators of a
lot of this stuff where this was

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coming from. Um, I believe
it was um Harvard with it Lampoon?

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Is that is that his name?
Yes? Shoot, I forget um,

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I think it was Kenny Henry Beard
and Robert Hoffman. Weren't they the guys

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who created National Lampoon? Is that
is it? Is that correct? That

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sounds right? I know I haven't
watched it, but there's a Netflix special.

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Oh yeah, there's a good Yeah
I haven't. I haven't watched it

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yet. It's on my list,
But yeah, that sounds about right.

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I remember growing up listening to their
comedy albums, So that's that's how I

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really was exposed to you know,
this and the and the movie. So

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their comedy albums are just what you're
expecting to hear. That's so, yeah,

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because they did They did like radio
broadcas cast, and they did like

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some stage play stuff too, before
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Correct that sounds right? Yeah,
yeah, because I think Ivan Reitman was

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the one who kind of was the
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a lot of work too, and
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Animal House, but they wouldn't let
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you know, behind him to support
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a movie of this caliber, which
John Lanis I didn't really have either.

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So I don't know how they got
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would have been like if Rerightman would
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might have had something similar in my
opinion. Yeah, at the same hum,

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I'm sure, yeah, absolutely.
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the writers who who helped with this
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you look at this movie and you
see all of these people who are involved

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in all the things that they did, which clearly going to lead us into

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talking about the impact a little bit
later all the people who were involved with

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this movie and the careers they would
have later on, And of course we'll

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talk about that a little bit later. But let's let's go through the lens

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and let's talk about this movie.
Guys. Let's talk about some behind the

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scenes in some of this movie.
So, um, dayton in any interesting

396
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.039
things that you found about this movie? Oh, so many things, so

397
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:19.880
many things. So a couple of
things really quick. Dwayne Jesse, the

398
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:26.799
guy that played Otis Day in the
movie, was so successful in his how

399
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.960
people received his performance that he legally
changed his name to Otis Day and then

400
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.599
toured and recorded under that name.
So I thought that was kind of interesting.

401
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.640
The inspiration for the Blues Brothers actually
came during the production of this movie.

402
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.000
Blueshi would go to local clubs and
check out the music scene, and

403
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:49.640
he became fascinated with the musician named
Curtis Salgado. Salgado's look and harmonica planning

404
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.519
and the love of the blues that
would inspire him to create the Blues Brothers

405
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.000
characters for SNL. I know,
right to think of like, you know,

406
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.359
if he wasn't on this movie,
we wouldn't got the Blues Brothers characters,

407
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.039
you know what I mean. So
yeah, that's a that's a big

408
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.200
one because they got their own movie
and so yeah records, So yeah,

409
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.559
that's pretty awesome. Uh So,
um, you mentioned the writers of the

410
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.799
movie. Douglas Kenney was one of
the writers who also appears in the movie

411
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.039
as Stork you know, what the
hell we're supposed to do? You more

412
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.480
on and and uh we meet him
as a Kroger and Dorfmann are coming in

413
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.559
and you hear somebody say I had
a boner, I know how to boner,

414
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.680
And that's Dork, you know,
because that's the first way we meet

415
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.119
him, you know. So that
was funny. But yeah, he would

416
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.440
go on later to also write Caddyshack, and unfortunately he had passed away at

417
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.480
a young age. But but yeah, he's in there. But the one

418
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.640
thing that really cracked me up there
was one musical thing and the one thing

419
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.599
that's really very funny. The screenplay
was sent over two hundred and fifty schools

420
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.200
and every one of them turned it
down because it was two raunchy. Now,

421
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:52.039
the University of Oregon. Okay,
the president of that once had previously

422
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.640
turned down the production of a film
on his campus, and it turned out

423
00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.559
to be the graduate that he turned
down. So he loved them that movie

424
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.440
so much he decided that he wouldn't
miss out again and he agreed to this

425
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:10.839
one, which is not but the
cast and cruise shows up. He reads

426
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.880
the screenplanes as a no, wait
a minute, um, no, I

427
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.720
don't want to do this, but
it was too late at that point.

428
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.079
But he did request that the college
campus not be shown in the credits.

429
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.200
But since then, of course,
later they narrowed it. Say yes it

430
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.240
was shot here, all excited,
so um. The only one other thing

431
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.200
I want to mention is part of
the out of Stay in the Night to

432
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.559
the band if you pay real close
attention to one of the members of the

433
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:37.799
band, the bass player is legendary
lose musician Robert Cray. Yeah really I

434
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.039
didn't. Yes, yeah he was. He was actually responsible for getting the

435
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.240
band members together for the for the
movie. But yeah, it's slow to

436
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:45.799
see. You don't really I read
it. I'm like no, and I'm

437
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.039
like looking at I'm like, oh
my god, that is Robert Cray.

438
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.240
So Yeah, that was a that's
a that's a big one because he was

439
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.079
He wasn't anybody then, but for
sure later became quite known for his musicianship.

440
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.680
So yeah, I thought that interesting. So there it is. I'm

441
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.599
done rambling. So there you go. That's that's good stuff. Man.

442
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.400
Absolutely, Scott, what about you
now? Now wait a minute, before

443
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.720
you go too much further, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back

444
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.279
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everything from Anthrax to the Muppets to
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459
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buckle up because we have hit the
bottom of the barrel. Because he

460
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slaughters all the Tuscan Raiders. The
fact that she stays by his side,

461
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.079
that tells me everything I need to
know about these women that write letters to

462
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.440
the serial killers in prison. You
know, it makes it made sense?

463
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:49.920
You know Moby Young Sad always dumped
Tim. That was the theme song.

464
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:55.559
You know when you listen, Tim, did you have the volume on?

465
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.799
The witches are definitely much more nightmare
fuel. But the fact that they looked

466
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:08.240
like the Texas Chainsaw centerfolds um um
if jancof Thatt is so awesome. He's

467
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.640
hired to be cloned. Why the
hell isn't he doing the job. He

468
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.440
like my clients, getting impatiently what
you slack ass mother? Whyon't you do

469
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470
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pod Bean, or wherever you get
your podcasts. See high A Resistant

471
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.880
singing that line, I can't Yeah, I'm not kissing that line. Um

472
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.480
No, I think I think that
we're going to talk about the music later.

473
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.759
But yeah, O to Stand the
Knights. It's the standout performance in

474
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.039
this one. Um. And I
loved hearing that he had had so much

475
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:47.000
success that he took that and ran
with it. That's that's one of the

476
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.400
fantastic story I love hearing about this
movie. Um So. I also heard

477
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:56.480
that when they were shooting um according
to an interview with Tim Mathison, he

478
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.839
said Universe will only let them do
one take of each scene, or that

479
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.920
the they'd only produced the print for
one take, So in a lot of

480
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.319
instances, uh Landis would basically wouldn't
say cut at the end of the scene.

481
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.200
He would just have actors keep doing
it and doing it until them no,

482
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.400
no, no, get back,
reset it, do it again,

483
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.599
funnier and faster. That's a great
way. I mean, that seems like

484
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.480
a Roger Corman way to kind of
get around some of those, um smart

485
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.440
of those barriers. Yeah, um
yeah, we already talked about a bunch

486
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.960
of you know, Donald Sutherland's bare
butt going through the screen, and had

487
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.799
I assume that he was wearing a
sock on the other side, I feel

488
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.440
like, I don't know, would
have had a little bit of regret.

489
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.279
She would have been like, Oh, you're gonna do that too. Oh

490
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:46.279
that's what that means. Oh okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. Hey,

491
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.079
it might have been cold, It
wouldn't matter. Do you never know,

492
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:55.160
you know. I liked I liked
hearing about all the improvised moments like

493
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.359
you talked about the uh, the
scene in the cafeteria when he's loading up

494
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.480
the tray. Um, I can't
believe that he's stuffed that burger into his

495
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:12.119
I know, God, he didn't
have to do that, yes, um,

496
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:19.319
but it reminds me of the scene
where Flounder is in the grocery store

497
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.039
and he's having to catch all of
those things and does so very very well.

498
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.319
Um. There's there's a lot of
that that's just so surprising that they

499
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.000
were just able to get that timing
just right, to get those kind of

500
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.200
things, even though apparently a lot
of his scenes would take like eighteen or

501
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.039
more takes to get them right,
because he kept cracking up laughing, which

502
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:45.279
I don't blame him for at all, Dave, what about you? Um.

503
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:46.839
So one of the things I found
interesting, which, of course,

504
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.319
as we all know, John Belushi
was known for his drinking, his partying

505
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.440
and those kinds of things. Um, they would not allow him to do

506
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.799
any of that when he was working
on Animal House, all right. So

507
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:00.440
anytime you see him like drinking alcohol
and stuff like that, I think it's

508
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.000
like, what ty, Yes,
there's no way, there's no way,

509
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.719
some way down the whole bottle of
whiskey like that and survives. Oh my

510
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:14.199
god, no, because he us
that thing man. Um. But you

511
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.440
know, I just I just found
that interesting. But you know, you

512
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.719
know, Dayton hit on. The
big one for me that I was going

513
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.000
to talk about was the fact that
you know, it was because of this

514
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.440
movie, because of John Belushi being
there and going while he was in between

515
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.760
filming that he was going in,
you know, to these places and listening

516
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.800
to music and stuff like that is
what created the Blues Brothers. Um.

517
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.920
I just find that just absolutely fascinating
because Dayton hit it again when he said

518
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.119
that if that didn't happen. We
wouldn't have that today, and what a

519
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.199
shame that would have been. Bill. So it was meant to be.

520
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.639
It was fate that that was going
to happen, and when we got the

521
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.159
Blues Bug. What I want to
know is whose idea was it for Otter

522
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.320
to whistle Peter and the wolf all
the time? Like every he does it,

523
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.920
like three or four different times throughout
the movie. And I'm like,

524
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.719
I wonder if that was written or
if that was just him, because I

525
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.920
think that's a it's a nice little
thing, uh care to building for him,

526
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.440
you know, And I as you
know, like I said, he's

527
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.400
not my favorite care but I love
Otter because he's he's the cool guy that

528
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.199
you want to be, you know. I mean, he's a nice cool

529
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.519
guy because he's because you know,
he's a ladies man. But at the

530
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.719
same time, he's actually genuine.
He's the one that basically gets Dorfman into

531
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.679
this, into the frat house,
you know. I mean, yeah,

532
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:28.159
at the same time, he's always
trying to, you know, get laid,

533
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.800
but at the same time he's he's
a he seems like an overall a

534
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.559
decent guy though, you know,
but it's it's funny. It's funny.

535
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.079
Yes, something popped out to me. Yeah, No, I mean he

536
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.679
cares. You clearly see he cares
and he has a heart. You're right,

537
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.639
absolutely, Um, you know he
does love the women. He does

538
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.400
love going around and and finding ways
to get the women. Um. Because

539
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.199
the fact it was it when he
went to pose as a boyfriend of someone

540
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:59.960
who was dead for themselves, Are
you kidding me? That was called terrible

541
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.840
man. That's just it's just really
happening. Yeah, that so wouldn't work

542
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:15.920
now because of the Internet. But
in this movie, now, oh cringe

543
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.960
alarm in some of this. But
yeah, I mean those characters aren't.

544
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.920
It's not like Delta is just a
party house. It's just that they're not

545
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:28.159
taking college so seriously that they're letting
it define everything they do. You know,

546
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.639
they're not being those cookie cutters when
you mentioned like Honor Otter, when

547
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.840
you mentioned like Boone, um,
even you know, Hoover Um, trying

548
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.800
to get everybody through the experience without
letting it define who they are. Um.

549
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.440
And that's something that absolutely comes up
as a theme in every one of

550
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:52.079
the movies that follows us that hits
into college is making it that like be

551
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.280
who you are, find people like
you, and have a good time and

552
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:59.239
come out better for it on the
other side. Yeah. Um, I

553
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.840
think another one of the things I'd
love to uh, the courtroom team I

554
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.320
think was hysterical too. Um.
I mean there's so much funny stuff about

555
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.360
this movie. Um, but but
the courtroom as well, when the Dean

556
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:12.360
is just trying to keep control of
all of this and of course you know,

557
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.960
they're all standing up and you know, refusing to listen in exiting the

558
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.960
courtroom as he's still trying to keep
the proceedings going. I just I laugh

559
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:29.320
every time I see that. Yeah, it's like, oh my god.

560
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.880
Everything about that scene is very,
very funny. It is. Yeah.

561
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:38.760
Absolutely, the horse shooting, Oh
my god, that's my favorite. That's

562
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:44.519
my favorite. Love that scene.
That part is the horse's reaction that's still

563
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:51.440
a friend. And then the reactions
on d Day and Bluto's faith are both

564
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.000
like they're smiling, laugh and then
they're like, oh, oh my god,

565
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:58.280
did he do it? Oh man? When they go in and find

566
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.159
the horse and all Blue can say
is that holy? And that's all he

567
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.320
kept saying, I know. And
then they carry that through at the end

568
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.840
with the guy with the measuring tape
and the chainsaw, and it's just gonna

569
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:14.119
like that maintenance guy is everywhere.
He's there, he's he's there when they're

570
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.800
tearing all the stuff off the Delta
house. I saw he shows up like

571
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.599
ten times in this movie. Yeah, Scott is funny. I know you

572
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.239
and I have had discussions about here
in a film at forty five where I

573
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.679
told you that I don't like a
lot of those freeze frame shots, but

574
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.559
that one, that one was fantastic
and it worked so well. That works

575
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.960
or since I'm like tearing up right
now, laugh about it right right,

576
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.800
just bears all of its teeth in
The sound that goes with it is just

577
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:50.239
perfect, absolutely perfect. It's brilliant. Absolutely Dating any other favorite scenes,

578
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.079
one of the things I want to
mention is the lot of the scene transitions.

579
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.639
They use crashes of some kind,
Like when we first see the Delta

580
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.760
House, the mannequin comes flying out
the window. Yeah, okay, so

581
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.400
and um dda course burst to the
door when we first meet him. You

582
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:14.679
have that, um let's see.
Uh. They also before the Toga party

583
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.800
they do it twice there a keg
flies right through the window at the beginning

584
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.199
of the Toga party, and then
Missus Warmer shows up crashing into like from

585
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.400
a scene change. So they use
a crash even when they go when they

586
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.000
go on the road trip and they
pull up to the Dexter Lake Club and

587
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.960
Otis Day is introducing the song Jamiamdigdong. He says, so hits it,

588
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.239
and then Otter hits another car with
his car. So they use a crash

589
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.679
or something like a car crash or
something bashing through a window multiple times and

590
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.199
a scene change. And I think
that's just an interesting choice. And I'm

591
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.800
kind of curious if it was you
know, Landis or somebody else, but

592
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.079
I've noticed that. I like,
that's a really cool thing because it's almost

593
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:58.079
like that's just who they are.
There are just lots of crash and banging

594
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.719
with this, you know, with
this with this Delta house. So well,

595
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.719
it is interesting, like you have
a quick impact the loud noise that

596
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.239
kind of breaks you out of what
you think you're going to get in the

597
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.639
scene and getting something completely different afterwards. It's very fitting. Uh, Daton,

598
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.679
That's a good thing to point out, because I really didn't look at

599
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.039
it that way or think about that, but that's pretty neat. Well,

600
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.480
like I said, when you've seen
this movie, like get to know a

601
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.599
little bit backwards and forwards. Right, Um, Scott, what about you?

602
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.159
What's your favorite scene? Man?
I know mine's the horse, so

603
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.079
I have to say then the Deathmobile
Okay, just steals the entire parade,

604
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:37.000
Like the parade itself is fantastic and
it's a it's a great setup. I've

605
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.320
used that device where it's kind of
like you know, where are they now?

606
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:44.360
And I think there was something about
American graffiti had used that similar kind

607
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.039
of device, but using it in
a funny way like this one does.

608
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.960
Um yeah, that the the Deathmobile. I can't stop looking at it.

609
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.400
Like the design of it and just
the way that it's used is fantastic.

610
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:04.159
I think the the look at my
thumbs kind of like whoa, that doesn't

611
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.000
that's not great? But anyway,
yeah, yeah, i'd say the Deathmobile.

612
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.000
There's just so much goodness in this
movie. You know, you'll find

613
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.440
that one that you you talk about
all the time, but you know,

614
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.280
there's so many one liners, there's
so many scenes that you just can revisit

615
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.199
over and over and over and you
will still laugh hysterically at it every time.

616
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:23.519
You know, all right, well, let's let's score this film.

617
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.000
Let's talk a little bit. Excuse
me, party, party, excarty,

618
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.360
I must do that. It's like, oh, go ahead, sorry,

619
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.159
So I just said, would boon
his whole uh excuse me, pardon me,

620
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.239
excuse me, part me bard me. I do that like all the

621
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.320
time. You know. It's like
I combine his with like with bugs Bunny's

622
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.199
version of it. That's what I
used, like all the time. So

623
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.840
it's it's yeah, I've used all
kinds of things from this movie quoted all

624
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.800
the time, and so it and
you've revisit it, and yes, it

625
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.599
is definitely still funny even forty five
years later. Yeah, and you look

626
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.199
for the reaction. You look for
the reaction for those people that get it,

627
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.719
and you're like, oh, okay, we're gonna be all right right,

628
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.159
all right, gentlemen, Well,
let's let's score this film. Let's

629
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.800
talk a little bit about the music, because it has a lot in here

630
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.960
that is very fitting for the scenes
that we see. Um one thing that

631
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.239
I would like to talk about the
Animal House theme song, which is written

632
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:19.159
performed by Stephen Bishop. Um.
He is does a few of the pop

633
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.760
tunes in the film, but he
is notable for the folk song I Gave

634
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.800
My Love a Jerry in this film. Okay, yeah, um you know

635
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.800
because this this movie obviously, you
know, most movies, a lot of

636
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.480
movies, you know, have a
score a theme to it, but this

637
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.880
one obviously holds strong to like,
you know, actual songs and stuff like

638
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.679
that. Um so, and there's
a lot of them on here. Dating

639
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.079
any favorites, yeah, many,
Right, Well, it's not so much

640
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.960
favorites. I think it's where they're
used that really makes me like them.

641
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.000
Like, for instance, when they
do the song Let's Dance, right when

642
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.800
Bluto gets into a fight in the
in the lunch room, you know,

643
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.360
he's like right here, right now, this song just kicks in. And

644
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.320
because you've heard that expression before,
it was some tough guy goes, why

645
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.360
you want to dance, you know, like trying to fight somebody. I'm

646
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.119
like, this is perfectly placed.
Mean And you know, of course them

647
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:14.000
when they've getten drunk at the Delta
House right after the Pledges get there,

648
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.119
and then of course they're all drunk
and singing Louie Louie, because that's the

649
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.840
only way to sing that song,
because nobody knows lyrics, you know,

650
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.679
you know, so you sound like
you're right if you're drunk. So it's

651
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.320
and then you know, um,
Sam cooks, what a wonderful world.

652
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.480
You know, we're referencing all those
you know, college classes, and it's

653
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:37.599
just there's the placement. You know, it's using that song and referencing science

654
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.119
and history and you know, biology
on all those things. It just makes

655
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.880
sense and fits within the content,
you know, confines of the of the

656
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.599
movie. So I don't have a
favorite one because that would just be like,

657
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.440
you know, picking a favorite child. So it's I like this the

658
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.000
placement. So I think actually,
uh, Let's Dance is probably my favorite

659
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.039
in the movie because of where it's
placed. It's got anything for you.

660
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.440
So I know that there's one song
in here obviously it's pretty iconic, but

661
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.119
I've got to go with twist in
the Night Away, the other same Cook

662
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.840
song. That's yeah, yeah,
I love that song. Um introduced the

663
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:12.840
same Cook through Inner Space, which
I'm sure we'll talk about it at some

664
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.760
point, um, but yeah,
for me, it's twisting the Night Away.

665
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.320
What about you do mine? Mine's
got to be shout? I mean,

666
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.199
come on, I don't care what
movie you see that that song in

667
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.920
You're gonna sing right along and you're
gonna have a dang good time with it.

668
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.760
And they'd use it so well in
this movie with them just dancing to

669
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.440
it, singing with it. You
know, it was fantastic. And I

670
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.000
revisit that scene a lot because I
just get myself in a good mood to

671
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.519
get meself laughing. I go to
that scene all of the demo. Well,

672
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.760
it's interesting how that's that's used so
many times in so many kind of

673
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.800
big sporting events and all this other
kind of stuff and big crowd, but

674
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.920
in that scene, it's such a
small space, right yeah, like a

675
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.920
very small intimate basement space, and
it just blows up with that scene.

676
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.519
Yeah, yeah, it does.
Yeah, absolutely when anything else on the

677
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.519
music as well, any any of
the Oda Stay scenes, you know,

678
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.760
those are great scenes. Yeah,
but uh no, it's I it's one

679
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.320
of those the soundtrack you know,
takes you and travels you back to that

680
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.119
time. You know, the pop
music there, and like I said,

681
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.519
it's where it's not just the songs
they were choosing, but where they're playing.

682
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.800
So they did a really good job
knowing where to put the songs,

683
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.079
you know, it's Dayton. I
think you had the same kind of conversation

684
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:29.119
in the nineteen eighty six years with
stand By Me, with the music that

685
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:30.880
they used for that, it's very
similar to this, right. Oh yeah,

686
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.719
absolutely. I mean you can always
put you know, good songs and

687
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.719
movies, but where they're placed and
how they go with the tone of the

688
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.360
scene really matters. And in this
one, they you know, they really

689
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.360
made it work very well. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Well, let's

690
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.199
rewind a little bit. I know
we already talked about our likes and stuff

691
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.119
like that, but um, Dayton, anything that didn't work in this movie

692
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:53.840
for you, because it's such a
classic and you don't want to pick anything

693
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.840
apart, but anything that you didn't
like. Okay, So after you've seen

694
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.440
seen it so many times, yes, there are things that you know,

695
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:10.159
I'm still kind of going really,
um really, So when Bluto is spying

696
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.800
on the sorority girls, Okay,
very funny scene, yes, but you're

697
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.880
telling me he's not even trying to
hide. He's like latly in the window

698
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.159
and they don't see him. Okay, fine, whatever, But then he

699
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.039
hops the ladder and it's and it's
a loud sound effect. I'm thinking nobody's

700
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.440
hearing this seriously, So that as
much as I love this movie, that

701
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.920
just like, nah, come one, guy, you could have tried harder

702
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.119
than you know, at least try
to, you know, make it worthwhile,

703
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.519
make him go down the ladder and
then back up. You know something

704
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.840
are having like you know, I
don't know. That just bothers me.

705
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.119
So and uh, after the toga
party, Pento takes the mayor's daughter home.

706
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.719
But how does he know where she
lives? He's not carrying a purse,

707
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.039
he didn't pick her up, doesn't
even know her last name, So

708
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.559
how does he know? Because even
surprised, he walks up and that says

709
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.360
the mayor him. He's like,
oh, so, like, how do

710
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.880
you know that? I mean because
she wasn't she wasn't conscious. So it's

711
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.639
you're kind of like, okay,
whatever, I'll deal with that, you

712
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:15.480
know, no big deal. But
um, and we've already mentioned the the

713
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:21.440
homecoming parade scene. It's just it
is extremely funny. But the marching band

714
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.360
just walking into a wall and staying
there the whole time. I mean,

715
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.440
are these are these nothing but lemmings? Come on? At least at least

716
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.280
send him down a road that just
keeps going that I would have been okay

717
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.400
with. But yeah, you know, um, and there's no way that

718
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.119
chick has Flounder's girlfriend. I'm just
you know, I mean, unless there's

719
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.679
like nothing else in his town that
you know, I like that guy.

720
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.360
But and then they show up like
they're going to you know, a wedding.

721
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:46.320
She's in his nice dress, he's
wearing a suit. I'm like,

722
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:50.639
it's a toga party, people,
relax, you know, just choices,

723
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.679
man choices. So I think I
think some of the parade got a little

724
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:59.320
cartoony a little bit, I feel, Yeah, And then Mandy's just standing

725
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:00.480
there in the middle of it,
you know, she's she's just kind of

726
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.920
like waiting for Bluto to sleep her
up. I'm like, okay, she's

727
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.559
not even running or else is running
around her. She just standing there whatever,

728
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.559
whatever it is, what it is, I guess yes, because I

729
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:19.800
still love the movies exactly exactly.
Yeah. I mean there's there's some cringey

730
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.519
dialogue that they use in there where
it's kind of like that I know way

731
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:29.039
it's done that way, but god, it's not okay, that's not okay.

732
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:34.119
I used say it was nineteen seventy
eight we had and I know they

733
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.760
were they were they were poking at
the sixties, right and that time period.

734
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.199
Also the kind of stuff um well
yeah, because also the people like

735
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.880
with Ninermeyer, everything he says is
terrible, so the words he's using,

736
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.719
it fits that character, so you
know, you know what I mean.

737
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.840
So yeah, the only the only
thing that bothered me is just something that's

738
00:48:53.400 --> 00:49:00.840
personal, because, um, my
first exposure to Peter Reichert was probably the

739
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.920
Basque. So every time I saw
him on the screen, I heard him

740
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.400
say Doyle and I couldn't. I
was like, damn it, why did

741
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.039
I have to see that movie so
many times? I want to stop hearing

742
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.880
that word. Um. For me, I feel like the the the creators

743
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.559
of it leaned a little too heavily
on American graffiti. I know they were

744
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.880
inspired by American graffiti, but there
are some similarities with this movie and with

745
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.440
that clearly the setting nineteen sixty two, which I won't blame them for that

746
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.199
because I understand the reasoning why they
chose that year, but you know,

747
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.440
you still got this the same kind
of vibes and stuff like that Roman romantic

748
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:43.920
comedy feel to it, and even
like the storyboard credits at the end were

749
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.039
just like American Graffiti. Um.
So I feel like they could have given

750
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.519
us a little bit more originality when
it comes to some of that instead of

751
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.519
like almost copying American graffiti. Um. But again, like Dayton says,

752
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.639
I'll let it go because this movie
is just so funny, so good in

753
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.960
such a classic. Yeah. Well, and I like how they kind of

754
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.000
started that as a spoof of that
as a comedic device that other people would

755
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.000
then pick up and carry on to
either use it dramatically or you know,

756
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:14.239
in a comedy right. Yeah.
Yeah. So as as everybody knews,

757
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.760
when we have a special guest on, we like to have a few questions

758
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.280
where we want to talk and just
have up a little bit of fun with

759
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.320
each other. Um. So have
you, either one, have you been

760
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:28.360
involved in any food fights or anything
like that throughout your years of high school

761
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:34.039
college anything like that? No,
any interesting, nothing more than a few

762
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.480
fries or something like that being thrown
across the table at each other. Never,

763
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.920
never on the scale like this one. Um. But yeah, you

764
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.239
know, maybe a few people down
on the table. But yeah, that's

765
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.159
as far as it ever went.
Yeah. So here, unfortunately, it's

766
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.800
a sad story for all of us. None of us have anything as interesting

767
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.039
as they had in this movie when
it comes to the right. Absolutely,

768
00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:00.360
so it's got any questions, um
So, knowing that, um, this

769
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:06.199
is something that kind of set the
bar for a bunch of college comedies that

770
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:10.639
followed. Obviously there's an lot on
National Dampoon, Van Wilder, and et

771
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.599
cetera, et cetera. There's like
thirty movies that carry the title. Um

772
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.599
But I'm kind of wondering, what
do we think are the three best college

773
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.360
comedies that followed this example? Good
question. I'm gonna put that up to

774
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.039
you first, Okay. So I
kind of went with a bit of a

775
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.599
variety that still holds some of the
some of this movie to it. The

776
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:36.199
first one that pops in my head
was accepted with Justin Long, Jonah Hill

777
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.360
and playing Lively. They basically create
a college for all the people that didn't

778
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:44.519
get accepted to other colleges. It's
a it's a very fun movie. And

779
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.159
and there's a Jonah Hill has a
great line in there, asked me about

780
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.000
my winger. He's dressed up as
an Oscar winn whener. So it's just

781
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.280
I don't know how many times I've
quoted that line. Just very funny.

782
00:51:54.599 --> 00:52:00.159
Yeah right, uh but that's a
that's a good's. It was better than

783
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.239
I expected, and it has heart, the same kind of heart that this

784
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:07.760
one has. So um, and
it definitely it's not quite as on the

785
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:12.599
level of raunchy, but it definitely
has that feel. Another one a little

786
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.880
bit, a little bit more tame, but I love it. As far

787
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.119
as a college movie goes, is
Legally Blonde three Witherspoon. I just I

788
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.880
love that movie because it has it's
a little bit more of the Omega,

789
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.880
you know, attitude with some of
the people, but you also have that

790
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.480
um she befriends the people that would
be more like Delta's. So I just

791
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:36.000
think it's a very fun, um, a slightly different turn of a college

792
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.119
movie, but it still likes it
has that. I don't think we get

793
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:44.519
it without Animal House. But and
then of course, um Pitch Perfect,

794
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.440
just because of how many times,
how surprising it was, how many times

795
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.000
I've watched that movie since then,
and I'm like, I would have hung

796
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.119
out with those people. I would
have hung out with those music nerds.

797
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.719
So yeah, you know, that's
that's why I pick it pretty good picks.

798
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.480
I have ever seen Pitch Perfect.
Oh my god, dude, it's

799
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:05.159
so much fun. Is so much
in your endorsement. I'll put it on

800
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.920
my list. Yeah, you will
not be disappointed. It's so much fun.

801
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.440
You can you can get skip the
sequels, but the first one's fantastic.

802
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.960
I will take your advice on that. Uh for me. Um,

803
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:22.199
Old School is one of the ones
that I just watched it again the other

804
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.199
night. Oh my goodness. This
the cast that you get in that and

805
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:29.639
the antics that you get in that
is very uh feels like what we get

806
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.039
with Animal House at times. And
I go back to that one a lot

807
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:37.920
too, like I do Animal House
um much. You know, more modern

808
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.079
classic comedy that goes back to what
we used to have, you know,

809
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.440
And I enjoy that very much.
Um. And I'm gonna date myself a

810
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:49.280
little bit with the next two.
Uh love Revenge of the Nerds. Um,

811
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.440
that one was so much fun.
Uh you know, if you've not

812
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.360
seen it. I'm a nerd to
myself, So there's some times I'm like,

813
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.320
oh man, yuck, I'm a
nerd and I could probably see myself

814
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:04.119
in a situation like that. But
yeah, embraces one of us, and

815
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.119
the other one, of course,
is I can't is Porky's Come on guys,

816
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.000
Yeah, I love Porky's. Yeah, and I know it's back during

817
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.320
that time period, but just so
much fun in that movie. I know

818
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:16.480
it can be runch of times,
but still his animal House, you know,

819
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.159
right, you just gotta again embrace
that and take it for what it

820
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.239
is and sit back and just last
because you know, there are some things

821
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:28.480
that probably they wouldn't get away with
today like they did then clearly, but

822
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.880
take it for the time period that
it was. Me Yeah, anything,

823
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.320
thank you. Well, I agree
with we're overlapping with old school. Totally

824
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.119
agree that. Now maybe somebody else
was said, so I'm gonna skip it,

825
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:44.519
gus one. I know that um
uh, Jeff Johnson would probably be

826
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.360
glaring at me and tapping his pencil
if he didn't hear one of us mentioned

827
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.000
back to school. Oh yeah,
yeah, I always on the too similar

828
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.559
kind of like you know, with
all these it's all that kind of like

829
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:59.000
um, fish out of water kind
of thing and that kind of you know,

830
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.559
uh, setting college jup is a
place that should be accepting people,

831
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.159
right and letting you find out who
you are and not being what you feel

832
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.440
like you should be on the brochure
that they send you for the school.

833
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:16.039
Um, but I feel like I
really have to mention Real Genius. Oh

834
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:20.679
that was so good. And I
feel like it's in a similar category with

835
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.360
Revenge of the Nerds, where it's
all focusing on, like, you know,

836
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:24.559
the geek culture and allso the kind
of stuff. It doesn't have to

837
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:30.719
get into all the greekness of the
other ones. Um, but Val Kilmer's

838
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:36.719
comedy angled with that one specifically that
in top secret. But Real Genius is

839
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.800
the one that stands out to me. He is, He's fantastic and it's

840
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:43.760
so much fun, much fun.
So, speaking of Revenge of the Nerds,

841
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.360
if there is a food fight between
the Deltas and the Trilambs, who's

842
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.880
leading the charge on each side and
what's their tasty weapon of choice? Yeah,

843
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:57.320
so it's got to be Bluto and
bog and Booger. It's got to

844
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.400
be those two dead on mine,
good job man, so and Bluto's throwing

845
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.000
a plateful of jello of course,
because you know, yeah, um,

846
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.639
I'm you know, and I thought
just for kind of kind of stay on

847
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:14.679
theme maybe or on Boogers throwing pudding. Yeah, and pudding, because that

848
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.519
would be nice and messy, David, is that what you had? It's

849
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.679
it's across. I think it's gone
across the board on this, isn't it?

850
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:27.039
Because yes, that's exactly mine.
Well done, Dayton. So mine's

851
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.320
a little different, but there's a
bit of a cheat in it. Um

852
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:37.639
what No, So with the trial
ams, I'm going with Gilbert just because

853
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:43.039
Anthony Edwards is one of my favorite
um and d day Um. I'd like

854
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.480
to see what they both do with
mashed potatoes because I had such range,

855
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.280
Like you can put it into a
meatball, It's got a good splatter,

856
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.079
It's got a lot of a lot
of versatility. I think they do a

857
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.239
lot of interesting things with it,
although DDA would probably turn it into like

858
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:59.440
plastic explosives or something like that.
Yeah, bringing the roof crashing down,

859
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.800
but that's funny. No good choices
though, I like that. Well done,

860
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.199
all right, So let's go move
on to a quote this. I

861
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.159
was talking to one a little bit
earlier that about Kevin Bacon. I found

862
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.039
one from him about actually landing the
role of an animal house. I'm gonna

863
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.800
have to clean it up a little
bit because as you know, it's Kevin

864
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:23.960
Bacon. He says. They cast
me straight out of acting school. I

865
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:28.199
went for this goofy audition for this
movie, and then I forgot all about

866
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.760
it. I'm living in this two
room crap hole with another guy in a

867
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:36.280
welfare hotel that eighty fifth and Broadway. Then months later they called me up

868
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.039
and said they wanted me to do
some movie for Scale. Honestly, I

869
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:43.360
not only didn't know how much scale
was, I didn't know what the f

870
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.079
it was at that point. I
think I was it was like seven hundred

871
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.800
and eighty five dollars a week.
Man. When I found that out,

872
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.519
it was incredible. But they needed
me out there the day after tomorrow.

873
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:57.440
I had to get on a plane
the next day, so I was flown

874
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:01.079
first class to San Francisco, stayed
in a out overnight. Man, I

875
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:05.880
was in seventh f and heaven.
I've been a couple of flights before,

876
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.239
but I never flown firsth class.
I couldn't believe you didn't have to pay

877
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.639
for a beer in firth class.
Clearly dating that I don't believe it.

878
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.599
I take out my script and start
reading it, hoping the stewardess will notice

879
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.400
nice. And then he gets to
the premiere and they don't even believe that

880
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.320
he's part of the cast. They
wouldn let him sit with everybody else's.

881
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:29.840
There's no quote that can top that. That is fantastic. I know,

882
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.440
I laughed when I read that quote. I've got to save this because that's

883
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.400
fantastic. Kevin, thank you so
much. I found one from Roger Ebert

884
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:42.880
that I thought was interesting because all
of us, I think remember watching at

885
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.599
the movies and whatever. So I
saw this, I'm like, I gotta

886
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.880
mention this. So he says the
movie's vulgar, raunchy, rawlbot and occasionally

887
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.719
scatological m You can look that up
if you want to know what that means.

888
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:59.119
If you can. It is also
the funniest comedy since Melbrooks made the

889
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.480
Producers. So I was like,
okay, you know, because you're reading,

890
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.159
I'm like, Okay, he didn't
like it. He didn't like it.

891
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.199
And then he says that I'm like, Okay, he liked it.

892
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.880
He liked it. That's which is
interesting because I think with Siskel and Ebert

893
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.880
it could go either way. Oh
yeah, I very much feel like if

894
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.840
you're imagine you're sitting in the theater
and there next to you, and then

895
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.199
the credits come up and you kind
of like slowly look over like, yeah,

896
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.360
we're good. Bro. No,
I'm glad that they loved it.

897
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.599
Yeah. No, I was gonna
say. They just talked about the time

898
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.360
period. You know, Let's keep
in mind when this movie came out,

899
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:35.519
there wasn't a lot of this on
the big screen or anywhere really. So

900
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:37.519
for somebody like that, of that
caliber of a critic, do you know

901
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.800
to like a film like this that
speaks volume right there? Yeah? It

902
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.840
does. It does well. I
mean speaking about like the time when it

903
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:47.960
was happening and kind of the time
period. So I found an interesting thing

904
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.800
from Harold Ramos. He did an
interview with GQ. I think it was

905
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.119
um says, when we were writing
Animal House, we assumed it would be

906
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:59.440
the most successful comedy ever. Our
generation of broken into television with SNL and

907
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.599
this is going to be the first
new Hollywood comedy. He was our attempt

908
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:06.159
to capture those years right up to
November nineteen sixty three, when there's a

909
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.239
feeling that kids were going to take
over the country for the first time in

910
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.840
our minds. The end of that
movie, the parade, all that euphoria.

911
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:15.440
It takes place the day before Kennedy
was shot, because the day after,

912
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:17.920
none of that mattered anymore, which
is really interesting and pointed when you

913
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:23.760
think about like all those the girls
that were addressed as Jackie ol on that

914
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:28.320
parade float, and I know there
was like a scene there was another thing

915
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.079
they're going to do with the parade
float that they said, that's a bad

916
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:36.400
taste. Let's not have JFK's head, you know, yeah, having an

917
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.280
unfortunate incident. Let's just move on
from that. But it's it's interesting that

918
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:43.039
they were kind of keeping that kind
of stuff in mind, and they knew

919
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.360
that this is not only a movie
about you know, acceptance in college and

920
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:51.639
having a good time, but also
about like a change in a change in

921
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:53.519
history and kind of when that was
coming about, and needing to have a

922
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:58.280
different kind of college experience for everybody
going into it. That was clever that

923
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.280
So let's go ahead and talk about
the back of those films since you mentioned

924
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.599
that, Scott. That's one of
the reasons why they chose this to be

925
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:09.440
nineteen sixty two is because they felt
that was like the last innocent year of

926
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:15.119
America when a lot of stuff was
going to change because, as you know,

927
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.440
the next year, we know JFK
and then Vietnam War and on and

928
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:22.400
on and on. America wasn't the
same after that. So that's why I

929
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.199
forgive them for having the same year
as American Graffiti because when they when I

930
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:29.239
see that's why they chose that,
that makes a ton of sense. Yeah,

931
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.519
at that point, because you're right, it would be difficult if it

932
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.519
was in sixty three or sixty four, any of those years to laugh at

933
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.519
something like this when you know what
was going on in America and what was

934
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:43.639
going on the campuses across America because
of the war and stuff like that.

935
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:49.039
So you know, I completely understand
why they chose that. But not just

936
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:53.119
that, but the impact this film
had on the entire industry of film when

937
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:58.320
it comes to that, launching that
gross out film genre, right, you

938
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.360
know, we didn't have this before, and you know, this movie came

939
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:06.159
out of nowhere and just shocked America. And I guarantee it, man,

940
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:07.480
you know, you're going to have
those groups out there who are just going

941
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.800
to see this film and just trash
it to death because it's like this is

942
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.440
going to ruin America, it's going
to ruin the kids and blah blah blah.

943
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.079
But you know, this really opened
the eyes of the film industry because

944
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.440
it was so successful. We saw
how much money this movie made, so

945
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.760
clearly it's what we needed and what
we wanted, and we get so many

946
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.719
good comedies because of this month,
right, Well, I mean I would

947
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:32.480
I would hope that a lot of
like, you know, I know there

948
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.280
was some kind of controversy at the
time with you know, whether or not

949
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:38.760
they wanted to show this and what
kind of impact it's going to have on

950
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:43.360
universities and things like that, But
I mean, him, think beyond the

951
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:46.239
drunk parties, beyond the state of
the Delta House and alls other kind of

952
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:51.159
stuff. Just think about it.
If you're the parent of somebody like Dorfman

953
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:55.079
coming into a school, you're just
wanting to be accepted by a place,

954
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:58.880
right. You don't want them to
continue to be pushed to the back room

955
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.559
or you know, or to not
have a chance to kind of find out

956
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.679
who they want to be because they've
spent so many years trying to be who

957
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.760
other people want them to be.
And yeah, so I think it set

958
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.239
the bar for other comedies to not
only kind of take that kind of you

959
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.360
know, going to the gross out
place or going to the shock humor kind

960
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:21.920
of place and all this other kind
of stuff, but having that central theme

961
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:24.880
of like, when you get there, it's supposed to be a good time,

962
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.840
You're supposed to cut loose to a
cate degree. You know, there's

963
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.800
something on the other side. You've
got the you know Karen Allen's character that's

964
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.559
kind of keeping you grounded and saying
I'm like, yeah, there's something after

965
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.440
this, but while we're here,
we're never going to have this again,

966
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:43.559
and just setting that kind of tone, and I mean it's the thing that

967
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:47.679
makes some people want to go to
college forget this right, So let it

968
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:52.199
be. Yeah, it's your introduction
to adulthood. You know, you're you've

969
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:57.159
you've officially grown up. When you
introduce you move into that world, you

970
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.880
know, And that's really what Animal's
House is showing us. You know,

971
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.320
you become an adult and things change, right. Another thing that you know,

972
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:09.320
toga parties, you know, they
kind of fell out of as a

973
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:12.719
fad and then this movie brought it
right back, you know, you know,

974
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:18.880
so another thing to think Animal House
for Sorry, I just hear blueshi

975
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:24.599
in my head. Oh yeah,
and the famous one liners. We know

976
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.519
we mentioned that, you know,
the things that came out of this movie.

977
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.000
I mean, thank you, sir, May I have another? You

978
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.079
know, don't get mad get even
the one that I still laugh hysterically that

979
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:42.599
boy is a pig, you know
so. And then of course there's just

980
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.800
so many good things in this movie
that just we see show up again throughout

981
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:50.079
the industry in later years. So
much. Well have you even mentioned earlier

982
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:55.039
the just the people, the careers
that came from this movie. Yeah,

983
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.440
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
And then if you look at the movies

984
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.920
that without this don't get made.
I mean, we don't get American Pie,

985
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.320
we don't get like mentioned Van Wild, or you don't get Old School,

986
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:09.880
you don't there's so many of the
not necessarily college movies, but just

987
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:13.480
the kind of the grow out,
the gross out, raunchy humor, you

988
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.480
know, Revenge of the Nerds,
I don't. We don't get that either,

989
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.719
you know. So it's it really
created as a genre, and it

990
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:24.199
was popular and successful and they said, okay, well let's make some more

991
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:30.199
of these, and granted to sometimes
to the wrong end. But you know,

992
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.320
they can't all be great, they
can't all be this movie. So

993
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.320
but yeah, without it, we
definitely don't get a lot of movies in

994
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.559
our future. And you know,
the society is always gonna, you know,

995
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:42.559
be upset about something. And hey, I saw this when I was

996
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:45.280
eight years old, but I think
I turned out all right. Absolutely,

997
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.039
And think of all the connections this
movie has made. I mean, you

998
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:53.440
you Lanis and Spielberg would work together, Karen Allen would work with Spielberg later

999
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:57.280
match you would work with Lanis again. Yeah, you know in future movies.

1000
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.119
But you know you also get all
these other actors who you know,

1001
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.079
we get Ghostbusters. Think about it, Harold Ramis, Ivan Reitman. You

1002
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:06.400
know you're going to lead in with
Dan Ackroyd because of you know, SNL,

1003
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:12.079
but the Blues Brothers. You know, so much comes out of all

1004
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:16.719
these connections of people working on a
set together that they build that future together.

1005
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:20.079
They don't realize. And then because
when you're making that next movie,

1006
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:23.320
your first thought is, oh my
god, I really enjoyed working with that

1007
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:26.079
person. I want to bring them
right onto this next project, and so

1008
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.639
on and so on, and you
just see how much that builds into other

1009
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.159
movies that we get later on.
It's really incredible when you think about that.

1010
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:39.440
Yeah, well in that whole National
Dampoon and Masthead, Yeah, it

1011
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.239
was kind of a you know,
I remember reading that. It was some

1012
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.800
people were wild about it because they're
like, this is the fall of National

1013
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.760
Dampoon, and when it started out
as and what it's going to be,

1014
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:55.480
I feel like it's just branching into
another type of media. It's another way

1015
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:59.159
of kind of you know, establishing
you know what kind of comedy you're walking

1016
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.159
into. And you see that at
the top, right with the Vacation movie

1017
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:05.039
with Christmas Vacation and yeah, there's
there's you know, Van Wilder, and

1018
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:11.800
there's obviously a scale there of gross
out or not, but you know that

1019
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.519
at the same time, it's kind
of like when you see that at the

1020
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.760
top, you know what kind of
a movie you're going to get and you

1021
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:23.400
just leave it at the door,
right, Yeah, absolutely, All right,

1022
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.159
Um, so we will close it
out with that. So where do

1023
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.719
you guys watching this that? Well, I own a copy because of course

1024
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.360
I do. And uh, it's
also I know I saw it on Netflix

1025
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.800
I think when I was so I
actually I went through like four or five

1026
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.320
times leading up to this. Uh, some at home, and then while

1027
01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:43.440
I was at work. Of course
I watched a little bit of it too,

1028
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.559
because why not exactly, Yeah,
I caught it on I caught it

1029
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.760
on Netflix. Um. But I
definitely think this is one that should be

1030
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:57.679
physical media because I feel like this
is one of those where the backstory adds

1031
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.360
so much more to the actual movie
itself, right behind the scenes, and

1032
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.000
I think this is one where I'd
absolutely want to see a commentary. I'd

1033
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:08.400
want to see the special you guys
were mentioning about behind the scenes, because

1034
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.360
there's so much more to it that
you know, you watch it in your

1035
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.519
first run just to see the movie, but then when you get some behind

1036
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:15.960
the scenes, you want to watch
it again. Yeah, but now that

1037
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.840
you know what's been happening with it, Dave, what about you? There's

1038
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:21.880
I own a copy of it as
well. There's like, you know,

1039
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.640
there are certain landmark films that you
really need to have in your physical collection,

1040
01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.560
and this is clearly one of them, because it's one of those movies

1041
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.720
that when you go back and watch
it again, and we already mentioned this

1042
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.199
several times, it will just put
you in a good mood and get you

1043
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:40.800
laughing and just having a great time. So definitely own a physical copy of

1044
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.279
this fee All right, Well,
I want to thank all of our listeners

1045
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.279
for sure, but I want to
thank Dayton. Dayton. You know what,

1046
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.560
it's always a blast of having you
along to have these conversations about movies

1047
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:53.159
that we love. As I mentioned
earlier, Scott and I, we're very

1048
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.920
excited when we're doing Animal House because
we knew Dayton is going to be our

1049
01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:59.279
guest on this film, because we
knew how much you love this movie.

1050
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.000
Oh yes, thank you guys for
having me on because I will talk about

1051
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:06.239
this movie all day long and twice
on Sunday. So well, that's good

1052
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.319
and that's why we had you here, Dayton. So what's coming up next

1053
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.159
for Docking Based seventy seven. Well, actually, the last couple episodes of

1054
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:18.880
the month of this month we have
we're discussing the Disney animated movie Meet the

1055
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:26.680
Robinson's m Scott was there for that, so thank you and a great episode.

1056
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.239
Great movie. Yeah, to check
that out. That actually drops tomorrow

1057
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:32.279
and the day after this drops,
and then the final week of the month,

1058
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:38.039
we're getting our our thinking Man's Medal
on so to speak, we are

1059
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:44.199
covering Queen's Reich's concept album Operation Mind
Crime. I can't wait for that episode.

1060
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.399
If you haven't heard Docking Base seventy
seven, you really need to get

1061
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:51.720
into it because he has such a
great range of topics of guests. It's

1062
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:58.199
music, it's comics, it's books, it's movies all over the place.

1063
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:02.279
And I think one of the one
of the best produced podcasts um I've had

1064
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:09.600
the fortune of finding recently. Uh
Dayton really digs in deep with a lot

1065
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.640
of his content and always has a
very very interesting topics to talk about when

1066
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.399
you're getting into it, and every
time I'm able to join his show,

1067
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:21.359
you know, it's it's looking back
on things like Meet the Robinson's that you

1068
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:27.680
don't really hear being discussed very much, and it's it's opening up doors to

1069
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.640
some new things. Um, something
is killing the children. I never would

1070
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.199
have discovered without dog in Base seventy
seven. So dat's what you're doing,

1071
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.000
ye, And thank you, Scott. And you're a fiefty dollars to hit

1072
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:45.399
your people account right all right?
So Scott, what's coming up for a

1073
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.720
film? Buy? And us next? So for a film buy for the

1074
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:55.680
Mothership. They're getting into Park Chan
Wook's Lady Vengeance to be a very interesting

1075
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:59.079
episode. I'm looking forward to that
one. Um for us, it's the

1076
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.239
movie I've been looking forward to talking
about since we started this thing, in

1077
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:04.920
my opinion of the greatest movie in
nineteen seventy eight, Richard Donner's Superman.

1078
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:12.079
With a very special guest from the
cast of this iconic movie, Aaron Smolinsky.

1079
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.680
You have to tune in. You
have to hear what he has to

1080
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.880
say. It's inside stories from the
production of this and a lot of the

1081
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:23.359
other Superman movies. It's a fantastic
conversation. I'm glad we were able to

1082
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:26.439
have. Definitely check it out.
Don't miss that one because it was a

1083
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.880
great time with him and we look
forward to you all listening to it for

1084
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.960
sure. Ye all right, So
for all you listeners out there, if

1085
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.079
you want to answer any of our
questions that we ask today, we would

1086
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:40.439
love to hear from you. If
you want to leave a comment, discuss

1087
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.439
what's next, or even half suggestions, you can find us at www.

1088
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.840
Dot film by podcast dot com.
A film by podcast at gmail dot com,

1089
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:53.079
a film by a podcast on Facebook
Twitter and Instagram until our film real

1090
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.359
start rolling again, go out,
watch something new, watch something different,

1091
01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.119
and who knows what you will discover
next. Thanks everyone, Thanks everybody's you

1092
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:00.760
know them.

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Host of the Docking Bay 77 Podcast

Dayton Johnson (no relation) is the host of the Docking Bay 77 Podcast; a hot show focused on movies, music, books, and more. Dayton has been featured on several of our limited series, including "1986," "A Film at 45," and "Back to the Box Office," and has the esteemed (or is it dubious?) honor of being A Film By... Podcast's first guest co-host! Dayton is an avid believer that physical media is better than streaming, and often times reminds those disagreeing with his views on movies and music that "It's okay. You can be wrong all day!"