A Film at 45 - Dawn of the Dead

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Hello everyone, and once again,
welcome back to the year nineteen seventy eight.

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In a Film Buys limited series A
Film at forty five. I am

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David Burns and I'm Scott Hoffman,
and attention shoppers. It's time again to

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dust off the end of a decade
that changed cinema forever with a fresh looking

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modern classics and hidden gems that we
can't stop watching even forty five years after

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their debut. In this episode,
we're taking another juicy bite out of the

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scary side at seventy eight with George
A. Romero's quintessential gorefest Dawlin of the

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Dead. Every dead body that is
not exterminated, it becomes one of them.

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It gets up and kills the people
it kills, get up and kill

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What are they doing from kind of
instinct memory what they used to do?

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That's right. There is no more
room in hell, and the dead walk

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the earth, Scott and in too
badly Badly. This film is included among

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the one thousand and one movie you
Must See before you die. And as

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you mentioned, this is from the
talented mind of George A. Romero.

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Yes, indeed, so, Scott, Since you do such a wonderful job.

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How would you describe this movie to
someone who has never seen it?

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When there's no more room left in
Hell, the dead walk the earth and

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head straight to Penny's for the latest
small fashions. It's the beginning of a

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zombie apocalypse in nineteen seventy eight Philly, where we meet an unlikely band of

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selfish smokers that team up to survive
what comes after the Night of the Living

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Dead. We follow a TV producer, a helicopter pilot, and a buddy

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cop duo from the local swat team
as they aimlessly fly away in a chopper

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in search of safety. Fate,
and a handful of bad decisions brings them

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to a gigantic mole to fight for
their lives. This granddaddy of all zombie

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movies is a must watch for anyone
who's ever been a mall rat or a

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clerk who loves the smell of commerce
in the morning. It's also the movie

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that answers the question people have been
asking for generations if the zombie apocalypse hit

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while I was at them all,
could the combined strength of Orange Julius and

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Aladdin's Castle helped me survive? Maybe
there's there's there's other ways to describe it,

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but zombie apocalypse in them all?
What do you do? That's right?

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No, that was absolutely perfect,
Scott, Thank you for that problem.

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So yeah, whereas Night of the
Living Dead was the more, you

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know, closed intimate look at these
zombies, this one takes to a much

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more epic scale. Right. Oh
my god, it's a massive scale.

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This is a massive undertaking, more
than three hundred extras. It's incredible how

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many different faces, different shots that
they did for this, and you know,

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considering they were each given one dollar
in cash, a donut, and

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a Dawn of the Dead T shirt, which I'm sure they treasure nowadays.

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But yeah, I mean when you
look at just the sheer number of people

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into this and being able to corral
it for this kind of an undertaking,

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for something that still is so revered, um is amazing. Um. I

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know this is the follow up to
the Night of Living Dead, but Romero

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wanted to wait a little bit so
that he could avoid being stereotyped as a

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horror director. Um, even though
I think that's really where he shines.

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Oh, I mean, looking at
his career, especially with Tom Savini,

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who we're going to get into in
a little bit, Yeah, absolutely,

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it's it's funny. Um. Romero
puts a lot of you know, content

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into his movies, even if they're
about zombies. You know, it talks

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about what's going on in society,
uh, you know during those times,

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and he's he's a master of that. You know, even though these are

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zombie flicks, you know, there
are still meanings behind his movies. And

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I love this so much. I
mean, you see that right away in

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this movie because it opened up in
what the newsroom and you already have like

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panic ensuing, and people were already
arguing with one another, don't know what

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to do, and they don't trust
each others. I mean, you know

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that speaks volume already what humans would
do in a situation like that. Yeah,

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I mean it starts off with this
kind of philosophical debate about what's going

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on versus fast wording to the sensibilities
of today, at least in the pop

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culture sense. You know, having
seen so many of these disaster movies,

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that's that's the wrong thing to do. It's the wrong time to worry about

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a TV show unless you're telling people
the important information, which they're scrambling to

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do. Right. But it was
just chaos in a newsroom and two of

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our heroes end up saying like this
is ridiculous. We're not getting anywhere ready

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to get out. We need to
go to surviving. Yeah, exactly,

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which is what you should do.
Move on and try to survive in his

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story, you know. Um,
you know, and after that we go

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into we meet U see that is
Roger and Peter right where they are invading

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that apartment complex. Yeah, with
the police force, you know, and

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that that leads into one of the
scenes that I thought was really really brutal.

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Uh you know, when they make
it down into the basement of that

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apartment complex and you see all those
people yeah, um, you know,

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behind the behind the fence, and
you know, they end up having people

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well there's zombies, so I mean
they're not alive anymore, so they have

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to just start shooting them, you
know, one by one, you know,

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as you know, it's probably one
of the most gruesome scenes that you

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would think of. You know,
this is nineteen seventy eight, let's not

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forget so. Um, that was
pretty tough to see on screen, something

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we really don't see much at that
time. Yeah, it definitely doesn't pull

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any punches. Its exactly what kind
of movie. This is from the get

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go. I appreciate the fact that
it gets into it so quickly. Oh

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yeah, um, that it's not
you know preamble of you know, what's

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happening with the virus, and it's
just let's go it. It's it's happened,

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we all understand the idea, let's
kind of get into it, um,

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and that that sequel, it's definitely
there are some pretty cringey parts of

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it, but you know, the
level of the level of gore, lets

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you know kind of what you're in
for as you're getting into it. And

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it also does a great job of
kind of dropping a couple of you know,

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thoughtful ideas, like them asking why
all these people were kind of gathered

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in that one place in that kind
of chain link area. Yep, And

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he mentions, I forget the line
specifically, but it's something along the lines

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of people not being able to let
go or kind of understand what's happening.

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So it almost kind of reminds me
of The Walking Dead with that barn.

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Oh yeah, absolutely, and with
a heady kind of collected together. But

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yeah, I mean, if you're
sitting there in the nineteen seventy eight theater

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and you're not ready for this kind
of thing, and you could just take

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the popcorn and go. I wouldn't
blame me because it gets pretty raw.

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Yeah. I think he even had
trouble with MPAA, didn't he When he

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was trying to get this release.
They were going to give him like a

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was it what was it at that
time? X rating? I think yeah,

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yeah, but there was the concern
about it being you know, that

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rating being associated with a different kind
of movie, right, Yeah. I

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think it's one of the things that
I think it's we've talked about before,

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George Mera being creative about you know, editing and doing things to kind of

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get through them the ratings board,
and to get things through without having that

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kind of stamp that would basically doom
it, right Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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This was the most profitable film of
the Dead series. And what I

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found interesting it was actually banned in
Queensland, Australia up until nineteen eighty six.

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I saw that. As soon as
I saw nineteen maybe six, I

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was like, interesting, yeah,
of all years, right yeah, yeah,

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but yeah, I mean, you
know, hats off to Romero and

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Savini for being that bold and form
from making this kind of feature because it

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is for a very specific type of
audience. It is obviously it's not for

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somebody who's you know, gets queasy
easily, but for those who enjoy it,

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for those who really dive into it, it absolutely opens the door for

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um for more kind of creative exploration
of that kind of stuff it does.

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And you, I know, when
we get to the impact part of this,

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you know that's we're gonna be leaning
heavily on what this film has done

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to the industry. But we'll get
to that before we really dive more into

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the movie. You know, let's
talk a little bit about the cast themselves.

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Um, you know, playing a
Stephen was David Minge um. And

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I'm gonna tell you right now,
Scott. I don't know if you saw

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it, but was that not Hugh
Laurie, thank you? Oh my god?

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Yes, Psychic Network. Um yeah, I couldn't shake that, Like,

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couldn't you even first scene? I
was like, is this like his

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his grandpa or something like that?
Like, um like, and I you

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know, not to you know,
let's not get into the age kind of

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things. But the it was an
eerie kind of um similarity that I saw

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there, which was which was very
interesting. It kind of drew me into

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his character a little bit more because
of that similarity. Yeah, he had

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some interesting scenes his the shooting scene
in the boiler room where he's just recochets

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are going all over the place,
and it's very clever camera edits to get

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that across. But I'm like,
dude, after the first time that happens,

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stop, stop, we just watched
Star Wars a year before. Did

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you not see that scene? Right? Um, he plays the helicopter pilot,

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and I would say I would say
he was the leader of the group

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for the most part, wouldn't you. I would say so, yeah,

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because just from the sense of he
was the one that had the plan in

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the first place, right, And
this brings up kind of another interesting aspect

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of this, which I think kind
of gave way to things that we see

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in Walking Dead, where different people
respond to the situation in different ways.

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With him kind of going into the
you know, they find the safe spot

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in the mall, they kind of
go behind the scenes into i'll just call

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it the boiler room, even though
that's probably not what it is, but

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the place where that's the inner workings
kind of the heart and the brain to

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the mall. He instead of kind
of running out into the mall like the

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like his companions do, he sits
down and looks at him app and he's

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looking at different pathways and access sports
and also the kind of stuff. So

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yeah, I would say he's he's
definitely the leader of the group, which

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makes it all the more. I
would say it's a little bit of an

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emotional thing when you see that elevator
open. Oh yeah, after he has

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the turn and he does a great
job with that. It's a little weird

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to see, you know, a
Hugh Laurie type zombie, but it is.

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But I mean even George Romero complimented
him on his zombie walk as his

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favorite of all the Dead movies.
You know, he even said that,

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you know, it was in line
with worthy of Lon Cheney. So what

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a compliment that was. Yeah,
well, I specifically that turn of the

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right foot, Yeah, I thought
was a nice touch. It's a subtle

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little thing that he did that that
really did well. While we're on the

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topic of lookalikes, did Peter remind
you of Tony Todd? Oh? Yeah,

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he absolutely did. There there's no
doubt about that. I saw a

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lot of Tony Todd in him as
I was watching the movie. Yeah yeah,

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and he was my favorite character of
the Bunch. Yeah. Oh yeah,

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mine too, played by Ken for
you m Yeah, we actually talked

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to him about in the limited nineteen
eighty six series with Jerome at House of

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Plastic with From Beyond. He played
Bubba in that movie, and again,

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you know, such a great role. I mean, who would you want

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not on your side in a zombie
apocalypse except for Peter, right. I

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mean he's this tall guy who can
easily handle anybody. He's strong. You

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know, I want him on my
side. Yeah. Well, he's very

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intimidating for the first time you see
him in that gas mask and he's towering

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over the rest of this Yeah.
He I think he had a great um

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arc in this one. Um,
you know, going from somebody who's just

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kind of like, I'm not gonna
pull any punches, I'm gonna do what

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needs to be done, and Um
became a I think more of a kind

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of a lieutenant, kind of a
leader when he needed to be. And

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you know even that end scene where
he's sitting there and he at least in

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the addition that I watched UM where
he sits there and he thinks about just

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ending it himself as the zombies are
pouring in instead of going on the chopper,

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and the decides to you know,
keep pushing through and go with the

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with Frand I think it was a
great use of hero music at that point.

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I think that was a little a
little funny, but but really cool

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to see. Yeah, he did
a great job. He did. Um.

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And I find interesting that he would
cameo in Zack Snyder's Don in the

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Dead remake in two thousand and four, where he played the televangelist. Yeah,

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so really neat that they brought him
back. Yeah, and I'm surprised

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that he's been so popular. He
just does a great job and everything that

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he does. I mean, he
has a huge list of credits. Did

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you look at his And he's got
a lot of B type films that you

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know, we all love in a
door, so, you know, very

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busy guy for sure. Well I
heard at least at one point there is

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the whole festival dedicated to him,
the foy Fest. That's awesome, and

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it was just the Yeah I would
that's awesome. Yeah for sure. Um.

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So the next one is Scott Runner
as Roger Um, who to me

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was really the goofball of the group. Um, you know you run away.

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See he's the type of person who's
probably going to get himself into trouble

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and sure not, he's the first
one as a group who ends up getting

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bits right right. And I mean, for this one, I think it

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is smart to add that kind of
character, even though he's a bit of

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a dufus, somebody who's a bit
of a loose cannon. And you know,

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notes that would come up later and
things like Walking Dead the Sometimes the

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trouble is not the zombies, it's
other people. And it did make me

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think a couple of times because the
pace of this movie does run fairly slow.

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At some points, it does there
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you know, bites and running and
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they have to kind of sit and
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nest kind of evolve for the you
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is going to set up into more
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you see them kind of pretending,
and you see Fran kind of push away

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Steven's ring and say like it won't
be real. Yeah, And then when

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when Roger starts to turn. You
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So you see those notes of people
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Like this is safe for now,
but how can it be forever? How

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can we know what's going on outside? And how much is this really going

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to sustain? Um, So having
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a an X factor was definitely necessary. Um it was four guy was a

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bit of an idiot at times.
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rifle just getting into a pennies Come
on, man, and then that's that's

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Umbie ended up carrying it the entire
time the wrong way. Um. That

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was a that was a nice touch. But I think it's funny too that

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they they talk about when Scott slid
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to today that I guess apparently a
lot of people were doing that, yes,

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and so like now they got those
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so you can't get away with it. So like they were talking about,

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oh, it was our fault that
that happened. Yeah, yeah,

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that's so cool. Yeah that he
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George was asked, you think that's
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it's because of Dawn of the Dead. Selvini replied, so absolutely cool.

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Dawn of the Dead's fault that we
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I would be surprised if somebody out
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you know that that I kind of
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the poster, right, Just take
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on those little stubs, even if
it's Halloween time. Make them easy to

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take off. Don't be church of
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of the escalators. But yeah,
no, that was fantastic and the use

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of escalators in other ways. Um, it made me think those zombies are

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back on the freaking escalators, like
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weird faces, just kind of looking
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you know, um, this days
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kind of walking around like they have
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like it was definitely am an aimless
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kind of angry running at your zombie
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it's kind of poking at commerce,
right and people just kind of blindly

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walking around and kind of losing themselves. Yeah. Absolutely, And um,

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but before we get into well,
we'll talk it. One thing I want

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to talk about about some running zombies
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for a George Romero film. But
we'll get in done just a little bit.

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So to round out our cast,
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Francine. So what I really like
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typical damsel in distress right now.
She wants to learn how to take care

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of herself. She wants to know
how to use that gun, she wants

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to know how to fly that helicopter. And I have so much respecting it.

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Apparently a lot of that too,
camp comes from the truth. Galen

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Ross. You know, she talked
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you know, as a strong character
and not that typical. As I

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said, damn's all in distress.
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and that's what I really liked about
her character. Um, she didn't want

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to just sit around. She wanted
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you know, if that happened to
us, would you not want everybody in

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the group to be able to a
handle a gun and b know how to

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fly the helicopter in case you had
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don't know what's going to happen.
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it's Um, it's very interesting to
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to talk about that, because he's
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then it's like, okay, but
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Right? Right? Yep? You
see that kind of like glint in

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his head when he's when he's hearing
about that. Um. But no,

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it's absolutely a smart idea. Sure
it was. Yeah. I loved hearing

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some of the behind the scenes notes
about Galen Ross so um apparently on George

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told her to scream at one point. She made that point around like,

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no, this is a strong character. Let her be a strong character,

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and he respected that and didn't ask
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great job of showing somebody who was
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arc because she's she's trying to keep
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she's going along with with Steven's playing
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of, you know, make decisions
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that moment when she starts to feel
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the future. Point she reveals that
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was very well done. It was
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remake. But hey, yeah,
exactly, horrifying way, Yeah, that's

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okay, let's not think about that. Yeah, that's not no, please,

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let's move on. But no,
she she uh, she did a

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great job of showing that kind of
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I don't necessarily agree with her character's
decisions. One is trying to scare a

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zombie away with flares, which I
realized that this you know, looking back,

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she wasn't left with a gun,
so she didn't really have anything else.

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But it's, you know, something
that could possibly have burned down the

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entire mall, so maybe not the
best thing to do. And just that

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I know that Dia Wallace, the
World's Best movie Mom would not approve of

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smoking and drinking while she pregnant.
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but yeah, yeah, no,
I agree. Um so, but

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you know, moving on with the
movie. So, I mean, obviously

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we talked about the cast, but
you can't forget to talk about the man,

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the legend himself, George A.
Romero um who is the father of

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zombies. Am I correct in saying
that, Yeah, I would say he

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gets that credit. Yeah, for
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lot to thank him for that.
But I mean, if you know films,

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you know horror films, you know
this man's name and respect that it

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brings. You know, he began
making movies at the age of fourteen.

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He attended Carnegie Mellon Institute for Art
Theater Design in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So

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of a local todlus Scott, you
know, I know we're here in Ohio,

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but hey, Pittsburgh's not that far
over drive. Prior to Night of

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the Living Dead, which I did
not know this until I started digging into

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information about him, he actually did
like small promotional featurettes and one of his

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assignments was to shoot short films that
were used in television series Mister Rogers Neighborhood

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in nineteen sixty eight. That is
fantastic, complete opposite of what he became

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after that, right, But hey, you got to start somewhere, right.

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So he talks about his influence as
a lot universal horror classics, which

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I can't fault him for that.
His favorite horror film as a kid was

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The Thing from Another World in nineteen
fifty one, which I can respect that

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as well, because we already talked
about a couple of remakes, you know,

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one being in Invasion of the Body
Snapchers, and we talked about in

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eighty six Invaders from Ours that came
from the fifties. So I respect that

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he talks about he loved Orson Welles
and Howard Hawks were his favorite over Alfred

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Hitcock. That's huge because Alfred Hscock
is a genius in himself. Yep.

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But apparently he got his idea for
Dawn of the Dead. He visited a

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friend when they were opening the Monroeville
mall and they were walking around and stuff

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like, and his friend made a
note that this would be a perfect place

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to hold up in in case of
an emergency, which basically planned the seed

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in Romero's head about hey, that
would make a good idea, and thus

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started the Dawn of the Dead that
he would make and that we would love

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today. Yeah, and I mean, I think we're probably not the only

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ones who have worked in them all
that have seen the kind of the you

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know, the inner workings, even
like little passageways behind the scenes and all

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of sud the kind of stuff that's
made us think about the same kind of

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thing. Because we grew up in
a decade with action movies and movies that

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we're inspired by this one that kind
of led us to think, like,

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what would we do in those kind
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a a pivotal moment in movie history, I would say, oh, yeah,

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absolutely. And another respect I have
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he didn't use storyboards. You know, I am nobody with saying that I'm

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the same as Romeo, because I'm
not. But with the little projects that

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I work on, I just write
a shot list and that's what I go

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off of me and apparently that's what
Ramero did too, and I did not

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know that, So that gives me
a much more respect for that man.

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Yeah, you know, yeah,
and of course we can't we can't forget

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about talking about Dario Argentino. Yeah, you know, he's the man who

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basically came in to help finance this
project. And you know, if you

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don't know who that is, definitely
take him. Take a look on imdbef

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under his name. He's done a
lot of horror stuff from Italy. He

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actually invited Romero to come over to
Rome and write this, which he did.

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He wrote this in three weeks and
had the complete busting of Art Argentino.

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Isn't that cool? Yeah? Yeah, I'm glad they were able to

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pair up and and get this movie
done together. It's it's astonishing when you

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look at the scale and the scope
of what they were able to do,

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and knowing they were working without storyboards, knowing it was born out of just

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a fairly straightforward idea. There's a
lot of complexity that they bake into it,

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and what they were able to get
done and the time they were able

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to get done is astonishing. Yeah. I loved hearing about them. The

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fact that Romero would film a lot
of extra shots so that when in editing,

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it could actually use all these different
angles and things like that to kind

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of assemble and make it seem like
there's more people than there actually are,

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because I mean, I know that
it's fairly easy to keep track of like

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the Screwdriver zombie, the nun Zombie, the Nurse zombie, but it makes

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it seem it multiplies that cast of
three hundred extras um. That's a very

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clever idea. Yeah, it absolutely
is. And I believe he see made

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a small cameo in this movie too. I think he played like the old

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nick they like the Cineclaus Spiker in
the raid there towards the real Yeah,

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very brief. It was a very
brief. But Romero does make it a

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little appearance in this movie. And
again, and we've talked about that before.

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I love it when directors do stuff
like that. Yep. So you

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know, moving on to talk about
the movie, let's talk a little bit

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about another guy who obviously had a
huge impact on the industry, and that

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is none other than Tom Savini.
Yeah. I was gonna say, you

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better be talking about Tom Savini.
You know, I know what I'm going

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to get your back. Yeah,
this guy is the Sultan of splatter.

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He is the granddaddy of horror effects. UM, and we have tremendous respect

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for what he's been able to do
over his career. So when I was

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looking into Tom, there's there's so
much more that we could probably do a

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whole episode specifically about Tom Savina if
we wants, but some of the highlights,

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you know, thinking about the fact
that he was actually given the chance

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to work in the first film with
Romero and I was living dead. Um

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he got drafted into the Vietnam War
as a combat photographer, I believe UM.

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And so leading up to Dawn of
the Dead, UM he he had

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another couple of UM some other credits
in his in his in his belt,

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he had used some of his experiences
in Vietnam unfortunately, had Um kind of

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given him some UM, some ideas
for how to kind of explore that.

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And thinking about the horrific things that
he had to see there is staggering.

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But using that in a way for
to help guide kind of the sensibilities of

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how he would approach some of those
things is very interesting. And knowing what

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he was able to do with it
that the creativity that he has is unmistakable.

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And one of the interesting things about
kind of teeming back up for Dawn

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of the Dead with Romero and getting
a chance to kind of have his major

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debut with Dawn. I had seen
in an interview with the Pittsburgh City Paper

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that he remembered getting a telegraph from
Romero saying, we've got another gig.

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Start thinking of ways to kill people. So he said, I came back

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to Pittsburgh and I'm thinking things like, how about we drive a screwdriver through

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his zombie's ear. George loved it, So I'm building retractable screwdrivers. He

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went on to stay in the interview. I wouldn't have a career if not

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for this movie. If there was
no Dawn, there would be no Friday

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the thirteenth for me. And when
you look at them, the impact that

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he's had on cinema since then,
it's hard to imagine a world without him,

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or without having this start, with
so many extras, with so many

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scenes, being able to experiment in
so many different ways, the helicapter,

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Frankenstein Zombie, the screwdriver zombie,
the kind of strange blood pressure cuff scene

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which I was like, what are
you doing? Why are you taking your

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blood pressure in the middle of all
this, But a clever way to experiment

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with a lot of that kind of
stuff, and the fact that he's not

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afraid to jump right into it,
knowing that Tom Cruise doesn't do makeup.

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I heard that Tom is the only
man in Hollywood who can claim all four

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titles of a stunt man, makeup
artist, actor, and director and recently

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one person that comes close and it's
his Idol Longini. Yeah. Tom Sumini

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is is the type of person a
filmmaker who is always on a small budget

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that they look for because the dude
will do anything you wanted to do.

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You know, he's very talented with
you know and doing the special effects and

407
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.599
stuff like that, but you know
he's willing to sacrifice his body by doing

408
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.000
stunts and stuff like that. He
even did that in Front of the Thirteenth,

409
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.440
you know, a very low budget
film. You know, he was

410
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:38.279
there from day one to the last
day, and you know he did some

411
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.920
of the stunts in that movie.
So that is the kind of guy you

412
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.519
went around on your film set.
Yeah, although I definitely felt the impact

413
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.599
in the scene he does in this
one where he jumps over the balcony,

414
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.160
oh and apparently missed the crash mat
by a little bit. And ended up

415
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.759
hurting his back. Yeah, I
had to ride around on a golf cart

416
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.000
like oh man, but yeah,
and he had he had a big job

417
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.200
ahead of him. He had a
crew of eight people helping him apply all

418
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.799
the gray makeup to the extras,
and they would all kind of wait around

419
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.279
in the brown derby inside the mall
and occasionally get drunk apparently of course.

420
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:18.839
But there's a lot of times when
you think about this is still an active

421
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.880
mall where they were doing all these
kinds of things. So when you see

422
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.119
like the biker gang scenes, when
you see all the effects that they have

423
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.920
to pull off and then clean up
and get the mall ready for use the

424
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.720
next day, that's astounding. Yeah, because there's a lot of mayhem in

425
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:38.000
this mall. There really is a
lot. I think they had to shut

426
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.039
down for the holidays, right,
Yeah, because the moll need to decorate

427
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.880
for Christmas and stuff like that.
They obviously couldn't have that for the film.

428
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.480
They had to shut down filming for
a little bit until the holiday has

429
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.759
gone over with soday. You probably
wouldn't do that anymore. You build your

430
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.839
own set. But still that's awesome, right exactly. Yeah, they couldn't

431
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.920
show blood splatters on Santa Claus that
very well, lots of questions there.

432
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:07.759
Yeah, absolutely, but no,
I'm Tom Savini genius for sure, huge

433
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.720
impact on the film industry. Yeah, absolutely, yep. So one of

434
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.119
the things I wanted to come back
to was I mentioned earlier that there was

435
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.960
a couple of zombies that run in
this film that you don't see in a

436
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.799
Romero film ever, because his zombies
always are slow walking. So yeah,

437
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.880
when that when those two zombie kids
come barreling out of that door at Peter

438
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.440
um, you know, they're running
full speed at him, and you don't

439
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.960
typically see that in a Romero film. But what I find interesting is those

440
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.720
two kids where the nieces and nephews
of Tom Savini. Yeah, I mean,

441
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.640
come on, like, if your
uncle is a makeup artist, is

442
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.799
a is a special effects genius like
Tom Savini, yep, and he's like,

443
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.839
hey, come to the set,
we'll play at Like, dude,

444
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.680
you'd be on top of the world
as a kid to be able to play

445
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.720
and do something like that, wouldn't
you. Absolutely, Yeah, I know

446
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.359
I would. But apparently so yeah, but apparently Peter wasn't expecting that either

447
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.200
or the actor ken Forest. It
wasn't expecting that for them to come out

448
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.039
of there like that, so it
was kind of a surprise to which is

449
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:08.480
a good call. Like, you
know, in this kind of movie,

450
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:13.000
you're not expecting to see kid zombies. No, that's kind of a place

451
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.519
like, oh, do we really
want to go there? Right? So

452
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.240
yeah, a great choice to keep
that a surprise and get that genuine shock

453
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.400
of what's going on with him.
It absolutely was. And George Romero's wife

454
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:29.279
makes an appearance in this movie as
a voice. Oh yeah, isn't she

455
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.559
one of the announcers in the ball
She is? Which I found really cool

456
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.119
too that he fipped it in.
I do question their decision to turn all

457
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.920
that stuff on, though I know
they were just kind of goofing around or

458
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.880
what that, But why would you
turn on all that noise? Yeah don't

459
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.720
I don't know. But here's the
funny thing, Scott, And you know,

460
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.359
I was going to mention this when
we get to the new the score,

461
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.799
but it's like, was that music
coming from the speakers that was playing,

462
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.079
because some of that was some of
the goofiest music I've ever heard?

463
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.400
Was that actual mom music? Or
was that the score of the film.

464
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.920
I I don't know. I don't
either. That's that's a way back machine

465
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:14.640
question for the seventy eight mall Walkers. Um, what was the name of

466
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.119
that one song, that kind of
polka song? Yeah, I don't think

467
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:24.960
they were playing that so crazy it
was. And yeah, when when listening

468
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.519
to the songs and the sounds that
they were playing, and there were a

469
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:34.440
few that, um uh they got
my attention. Um specifically the warbling sound

470
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.759
around that theme song that we hear
in Seaun of the Dead right, that

471
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.119
took me right back to that and
I was like, Sun of the Dead,

472
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.440
I love that movie. Yep,
it's sure, dude, But no,

473
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.079
I mean it was. It was
still very interesting score, which,

474
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.920
since we're talking about it, apparently
Dario Argentino had some of that did some

475
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.880
of that score. I did not
know that interesting. Yeah, apparently that

476
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.799
man has a mini mini talents too, not just in producing and directing,

477
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.279
but he can also do music too, Scott interesting. Yeah, And the

478
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:09.079
rest of it was done with this
with a group called Goblin, an Italian

479
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:14.639
band, were weren't they? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't know

480
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.239
anything about them, but yeah,
it's definitely a different style of music that

481
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.599
I'm used to when it comes to
horror movies, but it was still fitting.

482
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.440
Yeah, I can I can see
them being some there being maybe a

483
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:31.320
Goblin cover band or two at Living
Dead Weekend that they hold every year in

484
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.119
in the Monroeville Mall. We'll talk
about that in a little bit. Yeah,

485
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:37.559
I'm go ahead and talk about it
now. I mean, you know

486
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.519
this was filmed in Monroeville, Pennsylvania
at the Monroe of the Mall. I

487
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.639
believe people still go visit that place, right, Yeah, every year there's

488
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.880
Living Dead Weekend, so, um, it's a this year fans have a

489
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.519
chance to celebrate the forty fifth anniversary, obviously with members of the casting crew.

490
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.159
Um. I looked up the listing. I didn't know this thing existed,

491
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.159
but apparently they have these big events
at the mull itself. There's a

492
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:08.360
zombie museum where you can see a
lot of a lot of paraphernalia and things

493
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.079
related to the movie. Obviously,
you can be in the place where this

494
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.639
whole took this whole thing took place. A lot of the main cast and

495
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:21.440
the favorite zombies will be there along
with the legendary Tom Savini. That's awesome.

496
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.679
So if you're interested this year,
it's June ninth, eleventh, twenty

497
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.440
twenty three. Tickets are available at
the Living Dead Weekend dot com. M

498
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.400
I see a road trip in my
future, Scot, I think so.

499
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:37.480
Yeah, that sounds like a blast
of a trip for sure. All right,

500
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.719
So, did you find out any
interesting quotes from anybody in this movie?

501
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.840
Yeah? A lot of what I
found was was focused on Tom Savini

502
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:53.880
because I think um special effects and
that whole um, that whole aspect of

503
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.880
movies in general, I think is
one of the most fascinating in the world.

504
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:04.400
It's always been interesting to me.
So there's an interview on Roger eber

505
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.840
dot Com where Saviney was reflecting on
the art of illusion in film. He

506
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.159
said, I have a book out
called Grand Illusions that's all about the makeup

507
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.239
effects I've done in my movies.
I think of them as magic tricks.

508
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.760
Now, some directors don't how to
create a magic trick. There's misdirection,

509
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.800
like let's take this axe and make
it take a chunk out of the wall,

510
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.920
or knock out a light bulb,
and with a relax before the rubber

511
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.559
one comes in and them beds into
a girl's head like in front of the

512
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.480
thirteenth. That's a magic trick.
The angle is critical as far as creating

513
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:36.159
a magic trick at special effects solutions. This is what I tell my students

514
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.239
in school. I have a makeup
and special effects school in Pittsburgh that I've

515
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:44.719
had for eighteen years. My students
have worked on Name Emotion Picture in the

516
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.440
last fifteen years, and my students
have worked on them or math companies,

517
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.000
toy companies, labs. The mindset
I tell them to have is what do

518
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:58.320
I need to make me believe that
what I'm seeing is really happening? And

519
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.679
then you show that to the audience. He went on to kind of say

520
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:08.719
talking about his involvement in direction,
even when he's not directing the film,

521
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.199
being able to step in with the
director and set up shots in a certain

522
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.079
way to make those effects come through. You create the pieces to make what

523
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.880
you're seeing. It's exactly what a
magician does. A magician makes you look

524
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.800
up here and he's pulling flowers out
of his butt. He's misdirected you.

525
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.159
There's a lot of mechanical devices to
pull that off. So I would say

526
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.559
most directors, not all of them. There are some directors who are really

527
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.519
in tune with the effects being magic. There were only a few contracts where

528
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.840
he insisted that I direct a scene
with my effects man because I'm creating a

529
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.639
magic trick. If they'd led it
toward it the best way possible, then

530
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.639
they have to do it the way
I had viget it. I surely don't

531
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.639
want to interfere with the director's vision
of things. Most of the time.

532
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.079
I think all the time the effects
fit right into what the director wants,

533
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.440
and that's to fool the people into
thinking what you're seeing is really happening.

534
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.840
Nice. So that's a lot to
say, but I love hearing what he

535
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.760
his opinion on this kind of thing. A is a clever way to think

536
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.440
about it. It's not somebody who
steps in and makes something happen. It's

537
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.400
somebody who really orchestrates the illusion of
the scene and pulls it off in an

538
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.840
epic way. Yeah, that's really
interesting, And I love hearing from these

539
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.400
artists when they quote about stuff from
movies, especially the older things, because

540
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.559
you don't get to hear a lot
about that stuff anymore. So Savini was

541
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.320
actually talking about you know, modern
films today, you know, using CGI

542
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.880
and stuff like that with, you
know, in a remake of like Donna

543
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:37.599
the Dead, you could put like
three thousand zombies into one scene where Romero

544
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.519
you know, said, I don't
want to use it, to rely on

545
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:45.159
it. Talking about CGI obviously,
he says, but I guess I am

546
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.800
old fashioned guy. Give me a
rubber suit, you know. Yeah,

547
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.079
but um to going further with that, you know, Romero says, you

548
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.119
know, talking about the industry itself. He says, if I fail,

549
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.039
they write me off as another statistic. If I succeed, they pay me

550
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:08.440
a million bucks to fly out of
Hollywood and fart. I love Narrow.

551
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.480
I swear he's got so much humor, and he does. He brings that

552
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.239
great style to his movies. So
yeah, yeah, he takes what he

553
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.079
does very seriously, but he doesn't
take himself too seriously. Exactly. Just

554
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.119
a breath fresh air, it sure
sure is so? Um any any what

555
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.960
ifs? I kind of trying to
dig in to see if there was anyone

556
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:30.480
else that was going to be castoring
something like that, but I didn't find

557
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.199
anything. The only thing that I
found was the alternate ending that they were

558
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.920
talking about, where um Peter commits
suicide and Franz sticks her head in the

559
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.880
blades of the helicopter. Yeah,
which apparently was kind of foreshadowed by the

560
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:53.400
helicopter Frankenstein Zombie, which would have
definitely been shocking. But I think it's

561
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.920
a better decision to not have the
movie end that way, agree, because

562
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.159
I think it's a little bit more
of an I mean, it's definitely an

563
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:07.400
ending when your two heroes die,
but it adds a little bit of that

564
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.320
interesting what if seeing them fly away, because I think as an audience you're

565
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.800
able to kind of fill in the
gaps and maybe talk about it afterward,

566
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.000
to say where did they end up
going? Did they find an island that

567
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:22.840
they have enough fuel to just get
to another mole or find another refuge?

568
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.159
And I think it's that kind of
thinking that again leads to things like Walking

569
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.119
Dead, where you just have so
many different scenarios that can play out in

570
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.840
this kind of situation. All Right, Dave, let's take a short break

571
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.880
and when we get back, we'll
get into the rewind. Now, Jeff,

572
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596
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.880
little bit about some of our favorite
scenes and maybe some fun questions that we

597
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:55.719
have. What any favorite scenes got
well to the count of mind that we

598
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:02.679
haven't mentioned yet. One is the
eyepatch Scientist. Oh yeah, he's he's

599
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:08.239
got such a great delivery and the
scene where he just kind of um seems

600
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:13.320
to go into a loop and he's
just talking about logic, logic, logic.

601
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.639
It's one of the few times when
we kind of step out of the

602
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.960
mole and look back at the world
and what's happening outside of it. I

603
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.000
think he does a great job.
The other scene that I just thought was

604
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:30.119
hilarious was our introduction just Tom Savini's
character Blades, the leader of the motorcycle

605
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:37.719
gang, and the first scene when
he's like, yeah, let's go get

606
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.559
him. So he opens up a
switch blade and it's like comb that he

607
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.239
is. The comb is a mustache, and I'm like, really, man,

608
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.000
like you've got that there, all
right? I mean what if he's

609
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.400
like in the middle of a fight
and he's like hey man and he hits

610
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.039
the switchblade and comb comes out and
he's like comb a mustache and I'll get

611
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.880
right to you right there. Second, Ramea definitely injected a little bit more

612
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.599
humor into this one than he did
with Night of the Living Dead. There's

613
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.280
there's no doubt about that. Yeah, yeah, you know what about you?

614
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.639
So my favorite scene is a little
bit more serious. Uh it's when

615
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:19.199
um, Roger turns into a zombie
and uh Peter has to do be the

616
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.480
one, uh you know to obviously
you know, you know, take him

617
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.480
out. Um. I really love
that scene because you know, you got

618
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.599
all these zombies throughout the movie that
you you know, obviously a lot of

619
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.320
work went into making them look like
zombies, but a lot of them aren't

620
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:37.159
as detailed as Rogers is when he
turns into a zombie. Um, you

621
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.199
know, because we get that really
close up shot on his face, you

622
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:44.480
know, when he's completely turned.
Yeah, and I really like that scene

623
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.679
because you know, you have to
see Peter struggle, uh and take out

624
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:52.199
his friend, because I mean,
you put yourself in that situation. You

625
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.280
know, if if you were into
zombie Apocalypse and you know, you've been

626
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.639
friends with somebody for years and years
and they get bit and they get turned

627
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.880
in his and you have to be
the one that shoots them. You know,

628
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.960
you talk about this earlier. You
know, are they still them or

629
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.159
are they a zombie? Now we
know they're a zombie, but I mean

630
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.599
you're still going to have that running
through your head, you know, and

631
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.519
you're going to struggle with that,
and unfortunately, you know it's either you

632
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.800
or them and they're already turned.
You got to make that hard decision and

633
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.199
you really see that struggle with Peter, and I really I really like that

634
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.159
that scene for sure. Yeah,
well, I think they did a smart

635
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.400
They made a smart decision by drawing
that time out and having him sit there

636
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.159
and kind of watching him from the
other room and kind of talking him down

637
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.920
and talking him through the situation.
That does remind me kind of an interesting

638
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.440
point. I don't think anywhere in
the movie they talk about if you're bitten,

639
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.920
then you turn. I want to
see if they mentioned somewhere. I

640
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:50.159
thought they talk a lot about you
know, that guy in the newsroom says

641
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.719
they kill and the people they that
they kill get up and they kill and

642
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.880
things like that, But I don't
remember a lot of mention of you know,

643
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.800
don't get bitten because if you are, and you'll turn. It almost

644
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.760
seemed like they were saying because if
the it was a little it felt a

645
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.079
little vague to me, like there's
the lady that gets shot on top of

646
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.920
Roger and he's covered in her blood
and everything else. So at that point

647
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.440
it's kind of like, is that
is that infecting him? Is that doing

648
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:23.519
what's going on? M Is it
all the bites or is it just um

649
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:29.199
if somebody dies then they get back
up? Like I don't I don't remember

650
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:34.920
there being a lot to mention of
a viral kind of might have been aspect

651
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.679
to it. But it's interesting because
there was no discussion about like, well,

652
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.119
he's been bitten, he's going to
turn, let's put him down they

653
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.119
were trying to do a lot of
things to help take care of him,

654
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.920
give him injections, give him care, all this other kind of stuff.

655
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.920
Um. But yeah, it's a
great scene. It's really iconic too,

656
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.920
because I remember just seeing that face
on so many boysters and advertisements for it.

657
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:57.400
Um. It's a great choice to
include that scene because definitely when I

658
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:01.000
when I first saw this, um, I see in the face of his

659
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.000
zombie turn first. So then when
I saw him as a you know,

660
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:07.679
as a normal person in the beginning
of the movie, he was like,

661
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.880
Oh, he's it, He's gonna
turn and you know it. But it

662
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.119
doesn't matter. It's still a very
interesting ark to follow. It was very

663
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:20.440
impactful for sure. And speaking of
impactful, Oh want hold on, let's

664
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.880
back up a little bit. Let's
ask him some fun questions. So,

665
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.159
Scott, what do you got funny? Yeah, So, in terms of

666
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.679
what if, I don't have alternate
casting, but I'd like to know,

667
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.800
since we used to work in them
all together, if you're trapped in a

668
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.079
ball, what's your plan? Well, I'm going to do. The first

669
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.800
thing that they did is make sure
I close off all the entrances and then

670
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.480
and then take out any zombies that
are in there, because you want to

671
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.800
clear it out and make sure go
room by room, store by store and

672
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.320
Scott, you know we when we
used to take out trash from Suncoast,

673
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.280
Remember those long winding hallways and the
bad get lost in Yes, yeah,

674
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.880
the bat cave, yeah, you
know those are really creepy in themselves.

675
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.239
So clearly going through all those areas
too, and making sure you cleared out

676
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.559
all the zombies so that you know
you and your friends are safe should be

677
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.199
high priority. I would think,
yeah, And you know, I think

678
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.320
it was a smart decision that you. Eventually you saw that plans start to

679
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.360
come together for them, you know
when they parked the trucks in front to

680
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.320
say like, well they can't get
enough pressure because they have to squeeze in

681
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.639
between the truck, right. Very
smart, but yeah, yeah, I

682
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.320
think that's absolutely one of the first
things you do. It was kind of

683
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.760
interesting that they had they had set
up camp and that kind of nest that

684
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:34.320
they had behind the scenes upstairs.
Eventually they brought furniture up. But that's

685
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.239
one of the first things that I
was thinking of, was wouldn't you try

686
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.000
to set up camp in a place
like Macy's where you've got like beds,

687
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.360
linens, appliances. Yeah, a
little mini house. Make that your home

688
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.960
base. Although it's got so many
entrances. I think that's the thing.

689
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.599
You want to make sure you're closed
off so you can sleep and not worry

690
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.000
about being approached by a zombie because
you're in a closed room. I think

691
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.360
that's why they did that, Yeah, which makes sense. But I love

692
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.440
the fact that they were like painting
walls and all that stuff to you know,

693
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.079
really give that you know that home
field that you know, this is

694
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.079
where we live now, so we
got to make sure we take care of

695
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.679
it. I thought that was a
cool touchtoo, right, Yeah, I

696
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.039
mean even like looking at the intricate
behind the scenes of the ma all you

697
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.840
never know or even there, Like
when I started working there, I had

698
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.119
been visiting them all for so long, but then I saw these little batcave

699
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.000
entrances. I was like, oh, yeah, all these like catacombs and

700
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.400
stuff like this. This is really
cool. So yeah, I can't see

701
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.800
why Romeo was drawn to it.
I think we had been in trouble though,

702
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.599
because you know, we didn't have
a grocery store attached to our mall.

703
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.639
We didn't have a gun store attached
to our mall, So I mean,

704
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.000
I mean, yeah, you have
the food court where until they run

705
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.320
you run out of food there,
But I mean what would you do for

706
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.559
food supply at the mall we worked
at Scott right, Well, I definitely

707
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.280
wouldn't do what our heroes do,
which is to start putting bodies in the

708
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.719
freezer with no food. What are
you doing? Like, then you gotta

709
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:53.679
start making a plan of like,
all right, what food's going to go

710
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:57.199
bad first? What's all the milk
based product we have to do? And

711
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.519
all this other kind of stuff.
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you absolutely

712
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.920
want to be near the sporting goods
store and the food court. That would

713
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.239
be part of my plan. I'm
sure that our plan would probably start at

714
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.559
Suncoast because it always would. But
yeah, you got to take advantage of

715
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.800
those batcave tunnels that lead out to
the compactors for sure, and secure the

716
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.960
stores that you know that you need. Don't worry about like forever twenty one

717
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.679
or whatever, like not disparaging that
if if that's what you you know you

718
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.719
need to survive, that's cool.
But no, fashion, I don't know,

719
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.480
not so much. No need otherwise
I'd just say, you know,

720
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.119
my plan would be take the car, go to Mum's, kill Phil,

721
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.199
grab Liz, go to the Winchester, have a nice cool plant, and

722
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.880
wait for all this to blow over
like that. Nice. Yeah, that's

723
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.000
a good plan. Now another follow
up question, speaking of people that work

724
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:54.480
on them all, what would Jeff
do Jeff of Sun Coast Days, Oh,

725
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.360
man, I don't know. I
mean, you know, he's um,

726
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:00.719
he probably do something similar what we're
gonna do, you know, making

727
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.679
sure that everything is closed off and
we're taking care of He would have a

728
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.599
blash running around killing all the zombies. Yeah, I definitely see that he's

729
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.519
going to take charge of that for
sure. Um. But food wise,

730
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.079
you know, you know he's not
gonna go after he need the vegetables so

731
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.400
that Scott say, we can sacrifice
those. If you guys need that,

732
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.639
that's fine. I'll be over here, right, you get the plane,

733
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.559
hamburgers and exactly. Yeah, so
I think that's what he would be doing.

734
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.960
Yep, he'd want to secure great
steak and potato and probably Dollar Tree,

735
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.440
the pretzel the pretzel place. Yes, absolutely, range Julius. Maybe

736
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.000
make sure he's got enough re fills
exactly yep, yep. No, he'd

737
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.400
probably be uh, he'd get very
serious and he'd take that leadership role.

738
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.119
He would like that thing. He'd
be like, Okay, this is what

739
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.599
we need to do. Let's not
mess around with this, right, good

740
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:57.480
things to Yep? All right?
Any other questions, Um no, no,

741
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.280
all right. So let's move on
to the impact of this film.

742
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.880
Scott. We've already mentioned a few
things here and there about this, but

743
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.440
one of the things that I definitely
want to talk about, and that I

744
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:15.519
had mentioned earlier, is George Romero's
way of putting what is going on with

745
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.280
society into his movies, especially his
zombie movies. You know, I believe

746
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.880
Night of the Living Dead was really
a metaphor for the horrors of racism,

747
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:29.079
you know, that that he would
put into that film, whereas Don and

748
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:34.880
the Dead tackles consumerism. You know, I mean when you see this movie

749
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.800
and they talk about it a couple
of times that the dead are flocking to

750
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:43.079
the mall because that's what they love
to do, that's their memory, and

751
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.159
that's why they're going there. What
does that tell you about the people you

752
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.039
know in today's society? And then
too, you know, and you see

753
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.199
it with a lot of the bikers
and stuff. What's their first reaction when

754
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:55.760
they get into that mall. They're
going after the jewelry, They're going after

755
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.079
the money. What do you need
that for? Right? You don't need

756
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.199
that. You're trying to survive.
You're trying to live. The only thing

757
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.920
you should be going after is food, weapons, and a place to stay

758
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:12.960
and bottle up so that nothing can
get you and make sure you're surrounded by

759
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.599
good friends that can protect each other, you know. And that's what I

760
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.679
love about Rameiro. I mean how
he just pulls it into the film and

761
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.440
you don't realize it until you really
start thinking about It's like, oh wow,

762
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.920
that is really neat. How he
just brought that into and you don't

763
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:28.599
realize it. That's so cool,
right, Well, and subtle things like

764
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:34.800
medical supplies, right yeah, And
it's it's it's little scenes that touch on

765
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.559
it and get you thinking about this
in different ways and make this so much

766
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:44.079
more than just a big gorifest you
know. I think that was very smart.

767
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.039
Um. And yeah, when he's
when he's kind of poking at consumerism

768
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:52.239
and showing how many people are drawn
to it, that it almost seems to

769
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.840
be like you know, moss to
a flame, Like, there's so many

770
00:53:53.880 --> 00:54:00.199
people that their their lives kind of
center around that and with different occupation.

771
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.039
I know that was probably a bit
of fun to kind of dress people up

772
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.239
in different costumes representing different walks of
life and whatever. But it also a

773
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:13.920
little bit makes you think about,
you know, a nurse that turns in

774
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:19.079
a hospital, what would happen people
in so many of these different situations,

775
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.719
and what would be happening outside of
the mall. As much as he makes

776
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:28.320
it seem like a very isolated place, I think that's a great way of

777
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.320
kind of bringing the rest of the
world into it and making you think about

778
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.760
not only life after, but the
world beyond. Right absolutely, And you

779
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.920
know, another huge impact of this
movie, and you know you went into

780
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:45.000
great detail of that, is the
master Tom Sadini. Yeah, what he

781
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:50.880
brought to this movie and what he
would bring to future movies and in movies

782
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:52.679
that would have a huge impact on
the film Aage Yourself, you know,

783
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.039
Donna the Dead and then just what
a couple years later he was gonna be

784
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.800
doing Friday the Thirteenth, and with
the school that he would create to help

785
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:06.199
other people learn makeup and special effects
and gore and all of that stuff,

786
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:10.760
and to let them go out and
do their own thing. It just it

787
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:17.280
amazes me on what he just him
alone the impact had on the industry.

788
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:22.840
Yeah, and I think that's a
I think that's a great point to make,

789
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.880
the fact that he's kind of carrying
that tradition on his impact on practical

790
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:30.159
effects and being creative with that.
Like I said, with the retractable screwdriver,

791
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:31.960
having to think in the moment,
having to think with the materials that

792
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.639
you have and the technology available in
nineteen seventy eight definitely had an impact and

793
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:42.199
made a lot of these other movies
that followed, not only in this the

794
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:46.039
Dead kind of franchise, but beyond
that made so much of what we grew

795
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:51.079
up with in the eighties possible.
Right, absolutely, Well, Scott,

796
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:52.559
where did you see this movie?
Yet? The only way that I was

797
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:58.079
able to see this movie was not
on streaming because I could not find it

798
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:02.159
on any streaming service whatsoever. I
didn't give myself enough time to buy it

799
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.000
on DVD, but I was lucky
enough to find a local library. Again,

800
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.440
I saw the US theatrical version.
I know that there are several cuts

801
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:14.280
of this available. But that's the
one that I got a hold of.

802
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.639
What about you? So you know
I don't have this in my collection.

803
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.360
Yes, I am ashined of that, and I'm going to remedy that when

804
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.599
they rerelease it. I want to
have this in my collection. And I

805
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:27.880
kind of scrambled because I'm like,
oh man, this isn't showing anywhere.

806
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:32.280
Oh I actually got lucky. Somebody
uploaded the entire movie in tin adp on

807
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:37.800
YouTube, and so I was able
to just watch it straight from YouTube,

808
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.199
the whole movie streaming on my PlayStation
and just watched it. So and it's

809
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.880
it was a beautiful copy of it. So but definitely, if it comes

810
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.760
out, get a physical copy of
this and put it in your collection,

811
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.840
because it is, it belongs there. Yeah. I tell you what,

812
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.880
if you're a fan, go ahead
and get a ticket to go to the

813
00:56:53.920 --> 00:57:00.880
Living Dead weekend June ninth through eleventh. I'm sure that you're going to be

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able to secure a copy there,
and you're probably going to have your choice

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of different editions and all this other
kind of stuff. So yeah, if

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I'm going to get it, that's
going to be my kind of pilgrimage to

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get that one. Nice nice.
All right, Well, I would like

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to thank all of our listeners for
tuning in and listening to what we have

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to say about movies from nineteen seventy
eight. If you would like to leave

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a comment on what you would do
if there was a zombie apocalypse, please

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do so. I know Scott and
I would appreciate that, and everybody to

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John Buy would enjoy to see what
you have to say. Yep, exactly,

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So Scott, what's up next?
Well? What's coming up? This

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Thursday? On April thirteenth, a
film by joined several popular podcasts for a

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special episode to celebrate the seventieth anniversary
of James Bond. Then, on Friday,

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Jeff and Brad will Talk will be
on the All Eighties podcast to talk

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about Van Dam's nineteen eighty eight classic
Blood Sport. Nice speaking of blood.

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When we return, continuing our scarefest, composer and horror model Chad Cochrane joining

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us to discuss Halloween, which to
me is that is the scary movie of

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nineteen seventy eight. I can't wait
to explore that movie with you, guys.

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Halloween. I'm gonna go spoiler alert. Halloween is my favorite horror franchise.

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So I cannot wait to talk about
John Carpenter's Halloween, cannot wait fantastic,

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can wait to talk about with you? All right, So, if

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you want to leave a comment again
what would you do in a zombie apocalypse?

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Discuss what's next or even half suggestions, you can find us at www

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dot film by podcast at dot com, a film by podcast at gmail dot

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com, a filmed by a podcast
on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Until our film reels start rolling again, go out watch something new, watch

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something different, and who knows look
you will discover next. Thanks everyone,

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Thanks, back to you next time